The Lincoln Ware Rewind: November 11, 2025 (Happy Veterans Day, Lincoln!)

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
I am still on a speeding bullet or power a
locomotive about believe all buildings had a single bound up
in the pie.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln Busnan.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Gun Lincoln, BA.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Say that cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're just
talking about Lincoln.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
Good morning, Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (00:52):
Welcome to twelve thirty w DBZ. We are the buzz
of Cincinnati, your talk station. The Lincoln were show to
one o'clock this afternoon. There's a lot going on around
the Trice State, the nation, and the world. Happy veterans,
date all your veterans out there and thank you for
your service. And we've got a lot of freebies out

(01:17):
there for veterans today.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You veterans, you can cash in.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
On some free food, a lot of free stuff out there.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
They've been having a.

Speaker 5 (01:26):
They said they give you a free meal at the casino.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm running at which restaurant which I don't.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Know, the one by the sports book, I don't know where,
but free meal veterans at the heart Rock Casino.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
What's up with that? Man? That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Well, the Department of Justice as the Supreme Court to
throw out the ex councilman PG sitting Feil's conviction. It
means you'll get his money back, his fines he had
to pay for what forty thousand dollars or something like that.
And yeah, PG and when he's ready to talk, he's

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coming here. He already told me. And guess who's talking now,
Jeff Pastor.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yes, he's looking.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
For a pardon and it's a possible return to public life. Okay,
Jeff Pastor. And he'll be in here at eleven, so
make sure you tune in. We got a lot of
questions for Jeff. He found God in jail. Yes, it's amazing.
The jails do a better job than the churches do

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of having people find God. They do a better job
jails do than churches because some of the most hardened
criminals they go to jail and all of a sudden
they find God, just that simple. Churches can't get him
to do that while they're out, but once they get

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go to jail, they find God.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I want to ask Jeff Pastor about that too.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah, I got a bunch of questions for him. He'll
be here at eleven o'clock. Eleven o'clock, he says, he's
coming through, so we'll hear what he has to say.
And he, you know, he cried, you know, when PG

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left jail, he cried all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Man. I mean they were in the same jail there
and the.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
Same council, you know, and that's something that it's amazing
how that stuff works out. But he cried when PG left. Yeah, unbelievable.
I guess it was happy. He was happy for him.
And he knew the news about pg's pardon before PG knew.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
He knew PG was getting out of jail.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
He somehow he had talked to his wife back home
and they heard it here before before PG got the news,
he told PG and that was the first time he
heard about PG had heard about it. Yeah, so interesting
comments from Jeff Pastor. Yes, I can't wait to talk

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to him. So make sure you tune in. All right,
let's see what else is happening.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Man.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
There's a lot a motorists. Man, this happened right on
seventy one. I mean, are you safe anywhere anymore? Motorists?
Just drive me down seventy one and a guy starts
shooting at the vehicle up there in Warren County on
seventy one. The guy's name is Faison Cortes White twenty

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two years old. He looks black to me, but the Cortes,
I don't know. But Faison, you know. But he's a
black guy arrested for felonious assault and shooting a firearm
on the highway. And the person he shot had called

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the state patrol called ninety one one just before eleven am,
said the vehicle had been shot on the highway, and
they gave a description of the car and didn't take
long for the troopers to pull him over. Right there,
Kingsmel road White shot and hit the person's vehicle while

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both were driving on I seventy one.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Y'all gotta be careful with this road rage stuff. I
don't know.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
It could be some road rage or I don't know
whether this person targeted.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
He's being held on one hundred and fifty thousand cash
bond only, cash only, not ten percent. And that's how
these cats get out of jail that's doing all this
shooting and stuff. They give them ten percent of the
bond and they can make that. But this guy's got
to come up with one hundred and fifty thousand cash only.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
He'll be in jail. He'll be in jail.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
They need to pass that along to these Hamilton County
judges that are making it easy for these shooters to
get out. Yeah, veterans, I'll go over some of the
places where you can get some free food today, So

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stick around for that. Ohio lawmakers have approved they approved
a one point two million dollars for repairs at Central
State University. Now, I don't know what happened, but they
asked for four million, but lawmakers scaled back the plan. Now,

(07:03):
I don't know how much they can get done with
one point four million.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
They got to do the air condition and.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
The sprinkler system and all kind of stuff they have
to do, and they only gave them one point two
million dollars to do it. But they had given them
money before they hired a contractor and the contractor didn't
finish the job. What who did they get to do

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this that they didn't finish the job? What happened there?
That's what those are the questions I want to ask,
Who in the hell did they hire and the person
didn't finish the job. Then they had to go back
to try to get more money to get the job.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I don't know. I just don't know. I just don't know.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Central State always having a lot of financial problems, always
overlooked when it comes to money from the state, and
so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
We'll see what happens. Looks like Joe Burrow.

Speaker 5 (08:12):
Joe Burrow is back practicing with the team throwing and
says he might be back on Thanksgiving night. He might
be back Thanksgiving. I think we play the Ravens on
Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
I don't know if he can play defense, and he
needs to play, you know, he needs to play.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Hopefully.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
They taught these cats out to tackle during the bye week.
Don't tackle at the waist, tackle at the ankle, get
him in the leg, don't try to grab him around
the waist. Oh boy, that's crazy. I was at the
Xavier basketball game last night, and uh man, I thought

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Xavier would just run over this little team Minor what
was minor raise somewhere in California. I think this team
came here to play. They wiped Xavier up on the floor.
You're supposed to play these teams that are not that
great to you know, get your team some experience and
learning and doing this, and you're supposed to run over
these cats. These cats took Xavier to the cleaners. Oh man,

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it was. It was a no contest at halftime, it
was over. They were down like nineteen points at halftime.
It was a blood bath. And I did get a
chance to walk the ball out to Senate court, present
the ball to the official, and uh yeah Santa Clair. Yeah,

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and yeah that's I'll tell you what we might see
Santa Clair in the UH in the tournament. I'm telling you,
if they're in the tournament, I'm betting on Santa Cla
uh for the first two games. Anyway, the way they played, man,
I mean they they didn't take any stuff. Man, Let's

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see what else is going on here, oh man. Mark
Jeffries City Council says he is definitely considering running for
mayor in maybe four years. Yeah, four years, that's a
long time, but uh, it gives him plenty of time

(10:36):
to raise money and get ready because it's gonna cost
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Because it's gonna be very competitive running for mayor.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
And you know, Jan Michelle, you know sort of you know,
dodging around the question. If you're gonna get in it,
you better tell them, tell folks you're in it. You
don't wait until one year out and say you better
tell him now you running for mayor, and uh yeah,
do all the things you need to do to gear
up for a campaign for mayor of city of the

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City of Cincinnati. Mark Jeffery's not wasting any time. He says,
my hat is in the ring. Jan Michelle, you should
do the same. Don't wait, don't wait, all right, Clifford

(11:29):
says he saw me on TV last night, and did
you see that whooping Xavior took?

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Man?

Speaker 5 (11:41):
That was ah jeez, a whooping right in your backyard.
Now you see takes on Dayton tonight, which should be
a good game. They always play tough Dayton and the Bearcats.
I think it's here at Fifth Third Arena, So I
wonder why they never have concerts.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
At Zizhavior in their arena.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
It's I tell you, that's a nice arena for concerts
or something.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I don't know whether it's really built.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
For that, but man, it's I don't know why they
don't have concerts over there instead of Heritage Bank Arena.
I don't know, but I guess. Xavier said, we don't
need the drama. We don't need it oo here, we
don't need it. Yeah, so keep your concerts all right,

(12:31):
What else.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
We have here?

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (12:35):
Yeah, this guy that ran into the house out there
in Springfield Township. I think it was what street was
it on De Soto De Soto out there, Springfield Township?

Speaker 2 (12:49):
And did he do it on purpose.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
Or I don't know, but it looked like he drove
right straight for the house.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
And now he's arrested. Three people were injured.

Speaker 5 (13:03):
The truck crashed into a home near the eighty six
hundred block of the Solo Drive. This was like in
the afternoon and the home, the house just suffered a
lot of damage.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
They may have to tear that house down before it's
all said and done. There were three individuals in the home,
with two of them being taken to the nearby hospital
for more treatment.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
But it looks like.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
He knew people were in there and he was trying
to hurt him. Crazy the interim police chief doing things
that doesn't seem like interim. Maybe somebody told him something,
you gonna be the real chief. He's made the swat
team full time. Now we have a full time swat

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team in Cincinnati. Yeah, and people on council didn't know
anything about it. I don't know whether they needed to know.
I don't know. Did Scottie Johnson need to know?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Did he know? But they said, this guy.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Making moves like he's not the interim chief, like he's
the regular chief. So there are no requirements for interim
Chief Henny to get approvals before making changes to the
police department. In fact, in the heat of the violent summer,

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Downtown Cincinnati Council wrote a five point four million dollar
blank check.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
To CPD to bring down the violence.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
I said, they do all this stuff when the weather
starts getting cold, and that's when the violence definitely goes down.
This stuff should have been done back in July, but
it wasn't done. But now it is and we'll see

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what happened. Of course, Yeah, the violence. People don't like
to shoot in the cold weather. These these thugs don't
like cold weather. You know, all they have is a
hoodie anyway, so you know, they're freezing, and uh, they're
not getting out there trying to shoot nobody. With the
temperatures the way they are, they're not trying to do that.
All right, We're gonna take a break and then we'll

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come back. Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty
The Lincoln Wear Show twelve thirty The Buzz Lincoln wear
with you till one o'clock this afternoon. Let's go downtown
to the Crime Stopper headquarters and check in with my
good friend Tiffany Green, who was off yesterday and we
missed you yesterday.

Speaker 8 (15:45):
Tiffany, good morning, Good morning, Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
How are you.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
I'm doing great, doing great. How was your weekend? I
didn't talk to you yesterday. The weekend was okay.

Speaker 8 (15:54):
Yes, I had a good weekend, no complaints. But it
was nice to come back and be missed.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yes, you were missed, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
And happy Veterans Day.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Well, thank you, thank you, ma'am. Who are we looking
for today?

Speaker 8 (16:08):
David Turner is wanted by the Ohio Adult Parole Authority
for a felony parole violation. Mister Turner was originally charged
with burglary. David Turner is a fifty year old mel White.
He's six foot and one hundred and fifty pounds. David
Turner has a history of domestic violence, in drug possession,
and was last known to live in Middletown, Ohio. Brandon

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Williams is wanted by the Ohio Adult Parvole Authority for
a felony role violation. Mister Williams was originally charged with robbery.
Brandon Williams is a forty eight year old Meil black.
He's six to and two hundred and sixty pounds. Brandon
Williams has a history of assaults and was last known
to live on Central Parkway. Listeners. If anyone has information

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on where police can find David Turner or Brandon Williams,
please call Crime Stoppers at five point three thirty five
two thirty forty or submitted tip oneman at crime Jazz
Stoppers dot us.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
All Right, three five two thirty forty night or day
cash money for your clues and we will talk to
you tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
I'll talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
All right.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
That's a Detective Tiffany Green on the scene as always
with the crime Stopper report. All right, five one, three
seven twelve thirty Few places Cracker Barrel giving you a
free slice of double chocolate fudge, Coca Cola cake or

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pumpkin pie lattee. Yes, Denny's is giving you a grand
slam up until noon today. Dining in only go to
Denny's get a grand slam. Let's see what a Cracker Bear.
Oh I did cracker barrel.

Speaker 9 (17:50):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (17:50):
Dunkin Donuts get a free donut today over duncan go
start Chili. Veterans and active military will receive a complimentary
three freewaigh and a drink.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah how about that?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I hop free red white and blueberry pancake combo from
seven to up until seven pm today.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Jets Pizza fifty off any menu priced pizza with the
Military ID pick up only, not online orders fifty off
at Jets Pizza. Yes, there's a whole lot of goodies
out there. Bonefish Grill get a free appetizer. Bob Evans
get a free meal from a special menu at bob

(18:39):
Evans today. Buffalo Wings and rings of free pick two
lunch combo eleven am to three pm today. Let's see
what else? Uh A bunch of them out there, red lobster,

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free appetizer or dessert. That was Monday. Why are they
doing the day is? Why are they doing this stuff
on Monday?

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I don't know. Uh Starbucks they got Monday down for that.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I don't know why they were doing all this stuff
on Monday, Monday, Monday and not do it on the
actual Veterans Day. Unbelievable. Of course, the city county post
offices they're closed today. Yeah, all right, let's get to

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the phones. Five one, three, seven, twelve thirty. You want
to jump on board. It looks like Jay Boogie is
up first, Jay Boogie?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
How are you?

Speaker 10 (19:52):
What's going on late?

Speaker 2 (19:54):
I'm hanging in there. What's on your mind?

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Donald Trump throwing our party like draws around.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Yes he is, Yes he is.

Speaker 10 (20:03):
He might as well go ahead and free R Kelly
and P didd it.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
It's coming. I think P Diddy is coming now. R Kelly,
I don't know, but it's coming.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
They said.

Speaker 10 (20:14):
PTE Diddy got in trouble on his first week.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
He got drunk in jail over Yeah I know.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
They found some liquor. Yeah, he was drinking liquor.

Speaker 5 (20:22):
You know, he's just not gonna do right, so maybe
he shouldn't get out.

Speaker 10 (20:27):
Yeah, but you know what they what, He's building up
these partners for right, for the big part, and he's
in the partner Gallen Maxwell. You hear what they said
going on with her? She already getting the papers together
and they looking to have she going out out of
the place doing what you want to do. Got dogs,
They the guy that the Senator reported she was getting

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special treatments. So he wrote to Donald Trump, and Donald
Trump said, he don't know nothing about it. He always
don't know nothing about nothing. He knows everything going on
because he's in charge of it. But he's finna get
her out. That's why getting all these partners out. But
you notice every time he partnered somebody, it's no backlash
from it. That's the reason why he could partner people. Yeah,
but if that would have been biting up somebody to
partner people like he oh he did, why would he

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do that? Trump know he can partner anybody and it's
not gonna hurt him. And plus this is last year
in office. He can care less anyway. But but but yeah,
he's been a partner that Calena Maxwell later because she
can turn it me in.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
She can.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
She got she knows all, she knows everything for sure.

Speaker 10 (21:27):
Probably she probably the one got those pictures of him
with the little girls nigga that they're looking for. She
probably got.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Him a boy.

Speaker 5 (21:33):
All right, all right, thanks for your call, all right,
all right, okay, he said she's got the photographs. Unbelievable
five one three. Something tells me if she had photographs.
Somebody would have found him by now, unless she had
him somewhere in a lock box somewhere I don't know.
Seemed like the fids would have opened up a lot,

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got a subpoena to open a bank lock box or something.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Out Back Steakhouse offering the free r S three course
meal with a valid military ID when dining in. That's today.
About that raising cane. You'll get ten percent off dining

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and drive through orders. So shrimp and chips at Red Lobster.
Oh yeah, there's a bunch of stuff out there. Let's
take a break. We'll come back. Lincoln Wear twelve thirty,
the buzz. He's off today and you land him out there, Chad, Yeah,

(22:52):
a little bit of sliding the family stone. Yeah, And
Chad doesn't mind if I put in a request like
Trance Towered.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
He always he can puts it in there.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
But he complains his perfect playlist is being destroyed because
I asked him to slide one song in. But that's okay,
that's okay.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
A couple other things.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
The new introim police chief.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Has put together a permanent, permanent.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
Swat team in Cincinnati now and they don't sit around
and wait for something to happen. They go out and
arrest people. And when they have warrants on people, they
do stuff like that too. So they're not just sitting
around waiting for something to happen. Did you watch SWAT
when it was on TV. They didn't sit around they
when they did all kind of stuff, you know. But

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I'm glad to see that happen. I'm glad to see
that happen.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
All right.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
The Democrats taking a lot of heat. Senate Democrats, the
few that folded crumbled, and every all the other Democrats
are mad, upset, and because they know the Republicans are
not gonna negotiate.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
In you know, in earnest.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
They're not gonna try to do something with this Obamacare subsidies.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
They're not gonna do anything with it.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
You can trust the Democrats, I mean the Republicans, you
can't trust them. You can't trust Republicans will negotiate if
they pastors Bill. Okay, they've set up a meeting, they
go in there, we're not gonna fund that.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
That's it. We met with you.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
It's over. And then they walk out. What are you
gonna do? You've already cared. And that's how the Democrat
that's how the Republicans will play the Democrats, simple as that.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Mustapa.

Speaker 12 (25:07):
How are you feeling good? Yeah? Man, yes, there, I
got me a free turkey, said, right now, I got
a free turkey.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
How did you? How did you get a free turkey?

Speaker 12 (25:16):
Was at the free store food bank? Oh okay, here's
something funny though, Yes, okay, I'm there getting my free
turkey right And it was an old man and a
couple some people ahead of me. He was fussing. He
had his free turkey, but they didn't put his stuff.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
In in the bag. I call it dressing.

Speaker 12 (25:37):
Yes, I'm standing there by the lady putting my stuff
in the bag. And a lady comes out the back.
He said, is there a fair role here?

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Fair roll?

Speaker 12 (25:46):
He said, yeah, that's me.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Hey, that's my stuff it and I looked at her.

Speaker 12 (25:52):
I said, damn, is that the favorite.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
I can tell you for a fact that wasn't him.
I knew it wasn't him.

Speaker 12 (26:00):
No, I don't know what you looked like that was
out there.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Well, let me ask you what were you?

Speaker 5 (26:03):
I mean, I thought you, you know, you had a
good job working. What were you doing at the free store,
getting a free turkey, getting.

Speaker 12 (26:11):
A free turkey, Okay, that's what I was doing there,
damn free turkey just.

Speaker 5 (26:16):
Because that was free, just because it was free, or
that you really you couldn't afford to get one on
your own.

Speaker 12 (26:22):
Look, I want to get that free one fifty two.
If they're giving away free, I'm going over.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
Well, you can't get to one fifty less you have
a snap card. You got to have a snap card.

Speaker 12 (26:31):
Oh well, I'm a taxpayer anyway, So I paid you
for this craft. I'm going to get see you.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
You probably took a turkey out of someone else's mouth.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
No, I did not.

Speaker 12 (26:40):
There's millions of turkeys out there, my man, feel me,
people standing in line for turkeys. They're getting turkeys away everywhere.
Not everywhere, but a lot of places. So why not me?

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (26:51):
I work every day, absolutely, and I deserve a free
turkey too.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh boy, I'm believing me, old boy.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
I mean, if you can afford one, you let leave
that for somebody who can't afford for free.

Speaker 12 (27:03):
If you got in your job, Yeah, but that that no,
but not behind.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
No, It's different from me going to Saint Denny's and
getting a breakfast.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
Grand slam. You should get your veteran, your veteran.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
So they're offering it to veterans, they're not offering Wait
a minute, do.

Speaker 12 (27:22):
You know how much free stuff police get?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Fire Why do they?

Speaker 12 (27:26):
Why do they get free stuff because they're a fireman
or policemen, were breaks any anybody. If they're offering it free,
you're entitled to it. Y'all out there want something?

Speaker 5 (27:37):
But I thought you you have to qualify, You have
to be uh in a certain income level, even at
the free store.

Speaker 12 (27:45):
Don't you know what I mean free store? No, sir,
no you do not.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
You just going registered.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Unbelievable. You should you should be you should be ashamed.

Speaker 12 (27:55):
Of your So we're supposed to leave all the free
stuff on the table, right, you're supposed.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
To leave it for people who can afford it.

Speaker 12 (28:01):
No, that's no, No, that's not what the sign say. No, No,
it's not for people who.

Speaker 11 (28:07):
Down there.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, it's not for anybody that wants to go down there.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
It's not. No, it's not you know what an apartment
building on there there.

Speaker 12 (28:14):
They used to have three stuff on the entrance table.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Anybody that wanted.

Speaker 12 (28:18):
You can take it, and didn't say if you meet
this income. Okay, so cut it out.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh boy, I tell you I would.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
I would have been embarrassed to stand up there if
you could afford to get your own turkeys and.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Everything you got.

Speaker 5 (28:32):
No, please, thanks for your call now, and now he
throws the insults buy my haircut. Now, he throws insults
when he knows he should be embarrassed for going down
to the free store when he can afford to buy
his own turkey and dressing, not stuffing. And then he

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tries to throw pharoh in there to make himself look good.
You know what I they asked for the payroll out there. No,
I'm not buying that one either. I can't believe it.
Mustafa that turkey. They're gonna run out turkeys at some
point and then somebody's gonna show up there and they're

(29:15):
gonna say we're all out, and you might have their turkey.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
What a crying shame? All right?

Speaker 5 (29:24):
Uh Curtis Wells, Yeah, mister ware.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yes, this thing about honoring and what is it? What
the drop in say that it was terrence honoring and celebrating,
honoring and respecting the servicemen.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, what about it?

Speaker 6 (29:44):
No, Well, you know, if that's the case, I'd like
to deal with encouragement, support and if you could, if
you could play some songs by individuals African America that served.
Jimmy Hendrix was a Airborne trooper. Walter and the Whispers
went to Vietnam, playing some music from actual music. If

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it's in the playlist, if you we're gonna respect, I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Look, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
Look I haven't I haven't had chance to research everybody
who's got a song out there, whether they was in
the military or not. You obviously you've had time. You
you had time to sit down and research this, and
you come to me like I'm supposed to be doing
no know who they are?

Speaker 7 (30:28):
What you look?

Speaker 6 (30:29):
You let the guy talk about Trump on some lunacy.
I'm talking to talk about respect and honor. We can
look with there, musicians, just look walk the Scott is
an easy one. The Whispers you got that. I know, Jimmy,
Jimmy Hender's cutting may be a stretch for the Buzz,
but Jimmy, clearly.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
We might have watched Tower. We might have watched Tower.

Speaker 11 (30:48):
That's what I'm saying that that's one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
By the way, it was one of my favorite songs.

Speaker 6 (30:54):
So if we're saying respect and honor, if they're musicians
on Veterans Day after Americans, let it flow.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Thanks for your call.

Speaker 5 (31:01):
And you know he's in he's research. He can name
all the ones who have been in the service. You know,
Georgie McCrae and Gwynn McCrae. I think they both were
in the service. Geez, oh boy, let's take a break.
We'll come back twelve thirty the bus because of Cincinnati
your talk station link and where with you till one

(31:24):
o'clock coming up in one revenue shopping keeping it real. Hey,
we're just getting ready to get started on our uh
stuff the bus. Yeah, so we're gonna try to fill
a standard sized metro bus with toys to give back
to our local families in need this holiday season. All

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donations will be given to the Cincinnati Recreation Center and
they'll have their big.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Extravaganza and they'll.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
Give these kids toys, toys which they probably wouldn't be
able to their parents may not be able to afford
this holiday season. And how the way you can help
is stopping at one of our three locations Walmart locations
will be and you can drop the toys out between
noon and three. Will be on the November twenty ninth

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will be at the Red Bank Walmart that's four thousand
Red Bank Road. And December sixth will be in Evendale
right there on Cunningham Road. And then December thirteenth will
be in Westchester Cincinnati Dayton Road. And we'll also take
no donations here in the station lobby at one Centennial

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Plaza on Central Avenue, seven oh five Central. So you
have many different ways to donate a toy for these kids.
We're gonna stuff the bus with Christmas toys, so make
sure you participate in that. And maybe Mustafa won't go
to the Recreation Commission and try to get free toys

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from these kids.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
You know, he said they're free toys. I'm gonna get
me one.

Speaker 5 (33:08):
You know, maybe he won't go and try to get
a toy that a kid could use U at the
you know, at when the Recreation Commission give those toys out,
all right, five one, three, seven, twelve thirty. Hey Jesse,
what's going on much Lincoln?

Speaker 6 (33:23):
What are you doing that.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I'm hanging in there? What's on your mind?

Speaker 9 (33:26):
Be better to day? Thank you for your service.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Thank you, Thank you, dig I think.

Speaker 6 (33:31):
We should look at this the eight Democrats a little
bit differently.

Speaker 11 (33:36):
Now, check this out. As a result of what they've done,
they paid snap paid the federal workers. Now they vote
has to go back to.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
The House, right, Yes, the only way to vote in
the House is to have a full house.

Speaker 11 (33:53):
That means they have to swear.

Speaker 9 (33:55):
To the lady in.

Speaker 11 (33:58):
And then if you swear the lady in outcomes to
Epstein files.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (34:03):
Yeah, so those are all wins. That's four winds. Now
they put the Republicans back on their heels because they say,
well if they say no, we don't want to take
the vote, because they've been and I say, bitch in
the morning, they've been mad for a long time about
the not about the eight not voting, so they already
did it.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah yeah, now it's in that court.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 11 (34:25):
So actually it's not. It really wasn't a jump ship.
It was a push of the hand. Because now that's
five things that that are positive for the D side
and it's gonna be kind of rough for.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
The R side to say we don't want to do that.
Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I hear you, I hear you.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
I mean they got to swear that a congresswoman in.
They got to swear in. They can't hold out any longer.
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 11 (34:52):
Well, I mean the hand has been pushed.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Yeah, because I think.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
They go to the vote in what January, Uh, January
January thirty first, Yeah, January first.

Speaker 11 (35:03):
January thirty first. So January thirty first. Uh, the lady
is gonna have to get sworn in because they're gonna
have to take the vote. And if they don't take.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
The vote, then then reprobably gonnas are gonna look bad.
It's gonna look like you're covering up for a pedophile
in the biggest, biggest way.

Speaker 11 (35:21):
And I just want to say something else. Too many
I called the last time.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
You know, I was kind of.

Speaker 11 (35:25):
Mad because you know, it was going on with my
wife and things was happening. Yeah, and I want to
and I'm calling now to say I thank and love.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
The community for loving on the Roly family and we
appreciate it because my wife is back, happy and smiling.
She's on your show. We did another show, so she's back.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
A happy wife is a happy life.

Speaker 11 (35:45):
Oh indeed, it is all right, brother, Thanks for your call.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Okay, Yes, happy wife, happy life, unhappy wife, hell of
a life?

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yes, uh oh right.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
Five, one, three, seven, twelve thirty. Let's go to Brandy. Brandy,
how are.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
You doing today?

Speaker 3 (36:06):
Hi, Lincoln, I'm hanging.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
In there, Brandy. What's on your mind?

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Well, I just want to what's your happy back in day?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Along with my dad who's for thirteen years in the army. Okay,
and my aunt she is a little bit older than you,
but she was a Joe sergeant in the army.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
My nephew who I called you about earlier. He now
has a year under his belt in the Marines. So
he's in Beaufort right now.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
Okay, Oh that's where I went. That's where I went
to boot camp in Beauford, South Carolina. Yes, he's there
at the right time of year. Also, he's there at
the right time of year. In the summertime. It's brutal
in Beauford.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Well, he got his his job and the one that
he wanted, and he's he's happy. I'm very proud of him, yes, yes,
but because his Veterans Day, I don't think you should
let any of the Trumpers call and you know, President, well,

(37:13):
I don't even want to say, President, you know forty
five thinks that you guys are all suckers.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
And yes, yes, yes, yes, he said he regrets saying that. Boy,
I know he's just swinging, fighting, hitting air for that
getting out that he said that, he said every bit
of it said they were losers and suckers.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yes, he said, yeah, so they shouldn't be able to
call today because they basically think that, you know, the
men and women in my family and you are suckers
and losing. So I don't think they should be. But
I just want to, you know, thank all the veterans
out there, and I greatly appreciate your sacrifice that you know,

(37:54):
I couldn't make myself. So yes, yeah, if you just
think about the commitment that you guys went through and
what you guys truly gave up.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
I'm thinking about this honor yours. Was a drill sergeant
in the in the Army. What year was she in.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
There, I'm not I'm not sure, but she I want
to say the sixties and seventies.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, that's what I was saying.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
For a black drill sergeant back in those days. That's
pretty good. That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Yeah, And like she's pretty tough. I mean, she lives
in Chicago. She was a school teacher, retired from that,
you know, so now she's living pretty good.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, okay, she.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Got retirement from you know, teaching in the military. Yes,
all right, yeah. So I just want to send my
appreciation out to all the veterans out there and you know,
and active service members because again, if you really think
about this, what you guys gave up to fight for
this country who doesn't love you in return, it means

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a lot.

Speaker 5 (38:54):
Well, I just feel sorry for the active duty servicemen
now with who they have, I'm leading them, you know,
head said cag sapt And Donald Trump, Oh man, I
feel sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
For those cats.

Speaker 10 (39:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:09):
I try not to watch the news because it just
makes me so angry that they just don't care about
the people that they're being paid to protect. Like President
Trump basically told the American people to go eat cake
while he fills a ballroom that I'm not going to
be able to dance in. But yet, I work, and

(39:32):
I have a full time job, and it's hard to
support my family.

Speaker 9 (39:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
I was in Audise the other day and a five
pounds like container of brown beef was twenty seven dollars five.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
That's crazy, Augie.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
So now like people who think like if you have
a job, you should be able to afford stuff like no,
it all trickles down to like us.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Yep, all right, well said Brandy, thanks for calling. I
appreciate you, Brandy.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
All right, that's a Brandy laying it out there, telling
it like it is. All right, let's go to let's see.
I have time for one more call before break. Jimmy,
how are.

Speaker 7 (40:18):
You hey here?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
What's up?

Speaker 7 (40:21):
Jimmy? I have to show this out there here? Is
it one of your favorites? Says if it free for me?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 7 (40:34):
So so so you know it don't be too hard.

Speaker 5 (40:37):
Well, now that doesn't apply to a place like the
free store.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
You know it's different.

Speaker 5 (40:42):
Uh you know, free store giving out food for people
who can't if they would starve if they didn't get
food from the free store food bank. So for somebody
who can buy their own food to go down there
and take a free turkey that somebody else could be enjoying,
I don't have any love for him.

Speaker 7 (41:04):
Oh okay, but you've gotten a whole lot of tree stuff.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well, but that's I keep telling you that's different. It's different.
I don't know why you can't see the difference in that.
I'm gonna get I'm gonna get to.

Speaker 5 (41:18):
Okay, just like the casino, they're giving you a free meal,
hard Rock casino a free meal. So that's not that's
for veterans only, get the free meal. It's not that
you're gonna take food from a homeless person that they
were gonna give it to them.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
That's what it's different.

Speaker 7 (41:40):
But you have to take it to consideration. And there's
so much stuff they've given away that you know, if
they don't give it away, then they're gonna throw it away.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Well, I don't think they're gonna be throwing away turkeys
that people don't come and get. Believe me, they're gonna
they're gonna go through every turkey or chicken that they
have down at the free store food bank this holiday season.

Speaker 7 (42:04):
I'm telling you, okay, okay, let me kill on such quick.
I know your time is pressed, But anyway, Joe Burrow,
why would they why would he want to?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Really?

Speaker 7 (42:13):
Get ready? The bingles is three and six by the
time he'll probably be three and eight about.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
But you don't know what's gonna happen in this division.
This this is a weak division, and uh uh, you
know they could knock each other off and the Bengals
could come out on top.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
You just never know, uh with this division, I mean
you can't get you get a Joe thirty eight points? Yeah, well, yeah,
I agree, I agree there.

Speaker 5 (42:44):
You know, even if Burrow comes back and throws up
forty points, that doesn't.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Mean we're gonna win. You're right, you're you're right about that.
But I know you just have to try.

Speaker 5 (42:54):
Maybe if Burrow was in that game when we made
that last drive, he maybe he could have scored the touchdown.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
Remember when we tried to make that last drive and
we came.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Up short, right right, maybe Burrow would have completed that pass.

Speaker 7 (43:10):
And who's to say that Joe Burrow goill come in
there score thirty eight that this is.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
True, This is true.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
You lose you lose some sharpness when you off that
long and he's going to be trying to protect that
toe and I don't think his passes are going to
be as sharp as he normally is.

Speaker 7 (43:27):
Right. And one more thing, with this government hopefully opening
up so these folks at the airport, it's crazy crazy.
There's so much disruption at the airport. They've got to
open up this government and get these people back to work. Yes, yes,
but anyway, okay, I'll let you go and have a

(43:47):
good day.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Hey, thanks for your call.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
All right, all right, we've got news coming up right
here on twelve thirty the buzz d b Z Lincoln
where it's Tuesday. Yes, it is to day and it's
Veterans Day. So the city is closed, the county is closed.
I think the state is closed to you know, I

(44:10):
couldn't believe it. Central Avenue was like bear this morning.
Now I'm like, what's up? And then I forgot there
were no cars out there. People doing business with the city,
and normally you can't find a space out there, but
this time, you know, spaces are everywhere because they're closed

(44:30):
down today.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
All right, five, one, three, seven thirty. Looks like al
is up?

Speaker 10 (44:36):
Ol, How are you good?

Speaker 6 (44:38):
Look?

Speaker 9 (44:39):
I expect love and bucks.

Speaker 7 (44:40):
Thanks protecting my car.

Speaker 9 (44:41):
Hey, I wanted to meet on the FBI. I guess
I guess the new FBI team that's going to be
in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
FBI team. What FBI team not swat Oh, SWAT team.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Okay, Yeah, the swat team.

Speaker 9 (45:01):
Are you familiar. Well, just yesterday I saw something about
private prisons. Yeah, suing states, specific states for underpopulation of
jails because they're not arresting enough people.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
How they can sue. I don't know how they could
sue for that. I mean, you got a business, and
maybe business is not so good right now. You know
it's a private business and business is not good. So
how you're going to sue somebody because your business is
not good?

Speaker 9 (45:39):
Because most of the time there's a contract that's involved
to say that. You know, you're going to make sure
that my facility is populated seventy seventy five percent, you know,
no less than say fifty five percent. Going under fifty percent,
you know, we got a problem because they're losing money

(46:01):
some kind of way. I don't know how, but some
kind of way. But you know, this stuff is it
is out there. It's not like I'm making it up,
But I was just saying that you if you were
aware of it by the story that you you know,
had today. As far as the swat team being a
thing in Cincinnati.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Well, yeah, I think it's a good I'm okay with it.
Why anything to keep people from getting shot. I mean,
there's too many innocent people getting shot by these knuckleheads
out there, and not that a full time swat team
is gonna stop a shooting in the West End if
they're right there.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Right there.

Speaker 9 (46:43):
What you just said that part, that part right that
part right there. So so what's the what's the team for?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
I mean, it's to try to prevent crime and to
be on the scene if you need to.

Speaker 9 (46:56):
You already said that.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Well, but we never know.

Speaker 9 (47:01):
I mean I understand, I understand they never know, But
why don't we always you know, presume innocent before guilty,
because like a lot of these shootings that you know
that go unsolved, we don't know what party is doing
the shooting. We don't know if it's a random person,

(47:22):
if they're black, if they're white, if they're from this city, state, country,
or whatever. We just have somebody that's dead, and then
they pose a story or narrative about what happened, and
then it goes away and then people's lives are changed.
It's just like the Ryan Hinton thing, that that whole story,
I mean, those people's lives are changed that you know,

(47:44):
went on for a week, two weeks a month, but
now it's under the rugs. On fifteen, the Nazis that
was out there, I mean, that's up underneath the rug now.
Now we got a new chief. Now the things that
the OCHI you know, had that goes to the wayside.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Yeah, we got to deal with.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
What the news.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
Everybody wants to make their imprint. Everybody wants to you
come into a new job. You want to let people
see some changes for the better.

Speaker 9 (48:11):
But you know, the one thing that they won't show
what is justice. They won't show justice for all. They'll
just show justice for the ones that paying their paycheck
and once, I mean, and as long as they have
that over somebody, there's no justice. There's no justice. And

(48:31):
if I can, if I can hold your paycheck over you,
or I'm doing the right thing. Yeah, you're another to
the right thing.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
All right, I got it, run now, thanks for your car, okay.
And the only right thing to do is read Deuteronomy
twenty eight. That's the only right thing to do now,
five one, three, twelve thirty. Let's go to the white
lie year Hello, hello, going once, going twice?

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yes, yeah, okay, sorry, let me get you out of this,
sa let me hold off.

Speaker 11 (49:09):
That hold on, man, you can't be mad at people
when they ain't there for you because you be holding
people over on like for like.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Eighty please please, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
So, but I appreciate you taking my call. Now listen.
You know it absolutely blows.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
My mind that you.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Haven't brought up one time on this fabulous radio show
about the pipe bomber out there when you gots talk
about this January sixth thing? Why have you? Why have
you not talked about how the Capitol Police officers DNA
was found on that pipe.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
On that jeez, because I don't know for sure. Where
did where did you hear that? Where did you hear that?

Speaker 9 (49:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
God, I got insider.

Speaker 13 (49:48):
That's what.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Your insiders are not credible. So that's why I haven't
talked about it.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Why is no one talking about how our government, like
senators and the House and all that like, they held
our government close to help out local and competent democrats
to win their election. Now hear me out. You look
at the timeline here, So they keep it all closed,

(50:17):
They keep it all closed, They keep it all closed.
Now all the local elections happen, and then now they're
all like, yeah, let's make a deal now a week
after those elections. Why don't like they keep trying to
push me.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
That's making deal now.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
They the deal was on the table, the Republicans refused,
but now they want to What do you mean they
wouldn't take it now? No, we're talking about the deal.
I'm talking about the deal for the insurance premiums.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
That's the deal they took Key Schumer keeping the government
shut down. And then now once these local elections are
over with, see now, and.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Then if that one's up to Schumer, we still would
be shut down. He's upset with those Democrats that crossed over.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (50:58):
But now they want to sit there and act like
the Democrats cave.

Speaker 5 (51:03):
They did what I mean, they did like the Democrats
did cave. I guess they felt guilty.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
They didn't cave until they got these Democrats leaders elected.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
That's crazy that that's been a week. That's been a
week ago. They would have came back the next day.
If that was a case, that's been a week ago.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 7 (51:21):
Oh, I sit here and I listened to this.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
And the fact that the Democrats did very well would
give them more motivation to not come back.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
So I'm a loyal listener, Lincoln. I feel like I
am definitely up for Turkey of the Year the year,
Oh my god, Okay, I am. And you know it,
and I know it all right, you know it.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Well, whoever wins the Turkey of the year's banned for
a few months.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
How about that you change the rules just for me?

Speaker 7 (51:49):
I know you.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
See little do people know?

Speaker 7 (51:52):
Lincoln?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
When I saw you out at that walking club, me
and you was all cool. And remember when I pulled
up on you in the last Remember you was all like.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
Key keep white lions.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
I mean, we was all friends and buddies. Now see
you play this where you are? You don't white?

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Just before I didn't know you. I didn't know you.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
I didn't know your your your your position in politics.
I didn't know you were such a Trumpster.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
But now I know. And first I didn't know. But
guess what now I know I was.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
I've been the white lion since day one. Now see
what I found funny sometimes, Lincoln, is you'll get you'll
allow like your landsman and your pewter balls to come
in there and lie to you. But one thing you'll
never say is that white lion ever acted different in
front of you. Never. I ain't never came on this
show and tried to act different. I ain't never lied
to you. I stood on business, I've told you my feeling,

(52:42):
and I've never switched up on you.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Okay, and so hang up. You want some kind of
award for that?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
No, No, I just think it's funny how y'all talk
about being real, but you allow these clowns to come in.

Speaker 11 (52:53):
There and just water you up, just to make like.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
It makes you feel good.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
They're they're keeping it real that they're telling me what
I They're answering my questions the best that they can
at that time.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I guess, I guess linked and whatever, man, whatever, man,
it's all good. Hey.

Speaker 11 (53:11):
So I sit here and I listen to you guys.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Screamed from the top of your lungs. No kings, no kings.
We don't want no kings in this country.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
But to me, it seems like y'all look like a
bunch of peasants standing around.

Speaker 11 (53:25):
Begging for bread.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
And none of your none of your white friends or
family have snap cards.

Speaker 11 (53:34):
I'm not saying that they don't.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, what are they talking about that?

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Thanks for your car unbelievable. Unbelievable. Yeah, the Turkey of
the Year gets banned. Yes, so are you sure you
want to beat Turkey of the year unbelievable. All right,
let's take a break. We'll come back. Yeah, Jeff Pastor's

(54:02):
on his way. He's running a little late.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
He's on his way, so he'll be in here.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Jeff Pastor out of jail and talking to the media now,
and tell him about his stay in the slammer.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
And he used to be an atheist, I believe, but
now he went to jail. He found God. He found God.

Speaker 5 (54:30):
And that's why I say the jails do a better
job of helping people find God than the churches seem
to be doing.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Jail.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
You go to jail, yeah, you come out with your Bible,
your religious scholar. You know everything there is to know
about the Bible when you go to jail. Let's take
a break, we'll come back. Twelve thirty the buzz thinking
where with you till one o'clock this afternoon and in
the student Yeah, with me none other than Jeff Pastor. Man,

(55:04):
it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
It's been a while, Lincoln, thanks for having me on.
My friend.

Speaker 5 (55:08):
Man, I tell you got quite a story there, and
uh boy, uh, I don't know where to start. Let's
start with first of all, you being convicted going to jail.
That had to be devastating you and your family. And
how are you feeling when you knew you was gonna
have to leave town and go to jail?

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Well, you know, you know, first and four month, I've
never been in trouble in my life.

Speaker 13 (55:29):
That was my first time ever interacting with the judicial system,
and so you know, it was bizarre. I just keep
using that word bizarre. It's not something that I thought
would happen to me. I thought I had at this
point beat all of the odds. That's so common amongst
you know, young brothers, that that's like myself. Of course,
you you you know you have anger. You have is

(55:53):
a lot of anger towards yourself because of the mistakes
that you made. Yeah, I said wild if I would
have made a different decision, it doesn't matter really, you
know how I got in a situation. I made the mistake, nonetheless,
you know, and I always I always going just beat
myself up saying that my intentions was never to be
in a situation like there was never to be in

(56:14):
a corrupt situation. But it's it's ultimately what what what
happened here? So you take responsibility as as they say,
take your looking and keep on ticking. Yeah, I am
proud though there was when I when I finally got
there to Ashland. I was proud that that my paperwork
was good. I was proud that that I wasn't there

(56:34):
because I snitched on anyone.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I wasn't. I was proud that that that that that
that although I found myself in a.

Speaker 13 (56:42):
Situation that I never thought that I would found myself
in that that and horrible that I had to separate
myself from my family. But I was proud that I
didn't take nobody else down, and I was I was
thankful for my co defendant and felt very sad because
as Judge McFarland had said, uh during his centencing, that

(57:03):
I did, you know, my mistake involved him, and that's
the thing I take take take ownership for all of that.
And and his paperwork is good because you know this
could have you know, turned out different. So these are
these mix of emotions that's going and it's nobody to
blame but myself. There's no going back. But but there

(57:26):
was a wise woman who said, you know what, shame
is a social construct. Shame is a social construct. I
had shame for nearly five years. I didn't get sentenced
until right And.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
What did you do between that time between the time
that you were convicted and the time they sent you
to jail.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Was trying to make it, you know, it was trying
to make it. You know, my wife was wife was pregnant.

Speaker 13 (57:49):
Yeah, that was probably the most hurtful thing out of
this process, is my wife and my children and trying
to get through this process with her being pregnant, and
then I've never spent any time away from from my
babies to now having to think about what life is
going to be like when I was trying to sell

(58:10):
her home and it was just if you recall, just
a lot of media attention. Yeah, at first it was
accusing me of you know, getting a home my home through.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Yeah, yeah, like that, like the eight hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 13 (58:22):
Yeah, it was just it was that that never came out,
that that was a nothing burger, and that that has
some some devastating effects on the set of a home.
Seems to be some sort of at the time, there
was some this sort of a session like to make
an example out of black men, and I was, I was,
I've been vocal about that. It's just like there is
some sort of threat that that that when you exude

(58:43):
divine masculinity and you protect the vine femininity, people are
going to find something to be angry with you about.
And so I'm dealing with that. I'm getting ready to
do something I've never done before. But the community that
still supports and the village, the neighbors, the mother, the siblings,

(59:03):
the the not the step mus but the mother in
laws and the ones who raised my wife just surrounded
their arms around us. That that felt that blinded me
from the fact that you know that the people that
I cared so much about, the black community and who.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
What did your wife say to you? You know, when
you were getting ready to go off, and what did
you say to her? I know that had to be tough.
Oh no, it's just writing down to ashen was.

Speaker 13 (59:30):
Probably It's the only way I can explain it is
that that's the closest to emotional death that one can have.
I mean, you you're you're you're talking about your first
mistake in life and you already going to prison. Yeah,
you know what I mean, It's bizarre, not even and
and and the thing is, I wasn't even aware, you know,

(59:51):
I'm so naive and as they would call it, unsophisticated
that I'm over here talking to what turned out to
be federal agents.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (59:58):
I'm not concerned about what you're talking about. You know,
as my former lawyer said, I'm planning the player. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I mean. I'm thinking to myself, like,
you're not about to get me in trouble. But I underestimated,
right the power of the federal judiciary. It wasn't because
of eric as anything like that. It's just saying that
from my brand of politics, I believe in limited government.
So it's just like, I don't even like the whole

(01:00:18):
thing decriminalized in marijuana was an act of Number one,
you're licking my folks up, working class white folks, working
class black folks. So these are the things that I'm
putting into practice. So I'm definitely not going to have
respect for Big Brother. And I probably should have. I
ain't gonna say probably should have, but there should have
been a healthy respect.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Well, and you know, you didn't know who they were,
just like PG.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
I mean, they were having drinks with him and you know,
everything like that, and he had no idea they were
a FBI.

Speaker 13 (01:00:48):
Well, well, you know, I also want folks to understand
there's a difference between taking responsibility because you made a
mistake and that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
But intended something totally different. My intentions was never to
be corrupt. That I didn't.

Speaker 13 (01:01:01):
I didn't go and go to these people and say, hey,
I lost my job, so I want you to give
me X number of dollars. That's that's not how this works.
They set up and the federal government can do so.
They set up a trap or sting or whatever you
call it. And I should have again made more Second,
I should have listened to I should have followed my
lawyers directive to the t. And I say that when

(01:01:24):
I go back and say, well, a couple lawyers, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
I think now that you really want these people to
put you on the payroll and all that, it was
all that stuff true.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
Well, see that you wanted to, you know, get a
check every mine.

Speaker 13 (01:01:36):
But see the thing is it was I was when
they first approached me, they said that they were hiring me. Okay, okay,
so I'm glad that you asked m because I want
to be very careful because you can't get into things
that are protected by the judge.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
But that's public information. I thought I was going to
I thought I was getting hired.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
So when you're reading and you can't work another job
on city counsel and I had lost my job.

Speaker 13 (01:02:02):
So when you're looking at the indictment, of course, you
know the government, it makes their their their point and
that sort of thing. Well, you're looking at the diamond.
You said to yourself like it literally, what the hell?
And then now you're putting yourself in this way again,
this is where the mistake was it. Now you put
yourself in a situation where the federal government, as I learned,
is extraordinarily powerful and they are punitive, right, I mean

(01:02:22):
they're going to they're going to make y'all. Was facing
seven to eight years had I went to trial and loss,
you know, and and and that that's jarring to say that, hey,
you you know, you the ninety nine percent or whatever
the astronomical number is, you're going to lose, you know,
so you can going back to it, that fear and

(01:02:44):
all of this working like I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
I didn't do it.

Speaker 13 (01:02:48):
As the lawyer say, you know, now you have discovery,
but you can't share it because you'll go you'll go
to jail for that. And it's like, hey, but this
is my sad story. The old lawyer said. We don't
dispute the facts. We just the truth, and that's the truth.
Because it's like, I'm thinking one thing again, going back
in HINDSIGHTE go back to what you lawyer said, across
your teas and got your eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (01:03:08):
Because if I'm going to look for a job, I
guess that puts you in a very vulnerable situation because
I don't think people understand that people who truly love
their wife and children, you feel, I'm saying, will stop
at nothing to make sure that these that your babies
are not gonna miss out on, you know, meals and
stuff like that. And looking back in hindsight, that was

(01:03:29):
probably anxiety talking because it's like, well, let me just
take this hit in the media again. Let me just
sell this house right now. I've already been in there
for a year. Let me let me, let me, let
me do that. And so this is why I say
it's a mistake. But my intent was never ever to
be corrupt. So when they say, well, why did you
take the pleae that, well, for several reasons. Well, because

(01:03:49):
I made the mistake, I take full responsibility. It still
doesn't say that my intention was to be corrupt. How
how important was it to see a friend? And once
you went into jail and you saw PG there, Well
I had more than one friend there, I will say that,
But because we live here in Cincinnati, I think the

(01:04:10):
most popular friend, yeah, would be PG. Because my co
defendant was was what we called Maselli, you know what
I mean. So and before that, my childhood friend was
also there, and a lot of people from Cincinnati there.
And let me say this, thank God, thank god that
I was no snitch, because that's a thing down there.
You go down there and you call yourself. Now it's

(01:04:32):
a camp. So it's not as lows, mediums and highs.
I don't want to miss you know, you know, I
just don't want to miss inform. You go down there
and you got a reputation that they know you snitched
on somebody. Yes, And what's interesting, Lincoln just put a
little paper clip right here. What's interesting is how comfortable,
how comfortable some of these folks right now. And I

(01:04:53):
can't say it because you know, again it's part of whatever.
But I'll just say it this way, that that is
a it was a shock to me that people that
I looked up to in this community have made careers
out of out of this. And it's not even ones
that was. But it's a shock to me that that
that that that folks get themselves jammed up and then

(01:05:14):
they go help someone else jam you up so that
they can whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
And it's and it's a lot of them that it's
like that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:21):
And you see that down there, and you know, and
you know who they are right now, and they're comfortable
out there.

Speaker 9 (01:05:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I make this joke.

Speaker 13 (01:05:30):
I say, before people start criticizing these days here in
the city of Cincinnati, after those those wonderful brothers down
there Ashland, I think people should start showing their paperwork
before they start wanting to open their mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Start to show your paperwork.

Speaker 13 (01:05:43):
You understand what I'm saying, because because I don't know
if you saw the movie of brother Fred Hampton and
when it came out that somebody that was close to
him did what he did to him, I mean, he
was toxic in the community. In our community today, they're
welcomed and the car is at Ashland. The carnage is

(01:06:03):
at the lows. It's carnage is at the mediums where
these folks are doing these sort of things right, And
it's still my mistake because had I been aware, had
I been so gung ho as they say, That's why
I say full responsibilities five years ago, right, So when
it was seen, when I see a friend like PG,

(01:06:24):
it was comforting, what was extraordinarily comforting. And I have
no problems of saying that. You know, I been very
open about my spiritual journey and I'm one of those
people that you're still on the journey, you know, Land people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
People want to know if you steal polyamorous. Polyamorous is
not a spiritual journey. But I know, I know, but
that that made me think of it, though.

Speaker 7 (01:06:45):
But you know you don't.

Speaker 13 (01:06:46):
I mean, you made the headlines about that you don't choose,
you don't choose. Did you wake up one more than
they choose to be heterosexual?

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:06:53):
Yeah, I didn't more than that choose to be hetero sexual.
That's just how I was more. But but I always
struggled with this this idea of being monogamous, you know
what I mean. Not that I've actually practiced polyamory, but
that is who I am. That's how I am oriented.
And of course a lot of people made a lot
of jokes about that or whatever the case would be,
because we tend to be stuck in this idea, the
social construct that a black dude, you feel, I'm saying,

(01:07:17):
since we're on black radio, black dude has.

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
To be one thing. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Black dude, bet not do ballet.

Speaker 13 (01:07:21):
A black dude bet not like the arts, or a
black dude better not be masculine or whatever they have
all these weird things. Black dude definitely better not be
polyamorous and want to create more black babies.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
And what does his wife say about that? You know,
I have six I have I have beautiful children by
my wife.

Speaker 13 (01:07:36):
But the point I'm trying to make is that PG,
Let's let's face it, there is stereotypically there was expected
I'm expected to be there. Yeah, I mean, I even
think that the time that they picked me up, there
were some black radio personalities who already wrote me off.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
He guilty, he guilty, he guilty, whether the facts were there.
You know they had the paper, had all this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:07:58):
Was there, diamonds there for everybody, and everybody said you
he even made any argument was made the black dude
was guilty. Yes, let me take a break and then
we'll come back with more. Jeff Pastor is my guest,
and boy has he had a journey. And we want
to talk about you finding God, finding God when you
were in prison. I want to talk about that too.

(01:08:20):
Let's take a quick break. We'll come back twelve thirty
The Buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station, Lincoln, We're with you.
And we've got Marvin Buds coming up a little bit
later on and he's gonna talk about the West End
gallat that's taking place. It's coming Saturday at TQL Stadium. Yes,
so he'll be there in here to talk about that.

(01:08:41):
Jeff Pastor's here, and I guess PG was teaching Bible
study down there or something, you know, and he introduced
you to all this and you you found yourself down there.

Speaker 13 (01:08:53):
I guess, well, I wouldn't sound find myself at Bible study.
I would say that I found a spiritual practice that
works for me. Happy to say that it's God. But
the reason why I say he helped was because let's
face it, PG comes from a certain class. He's not
expected to be there. I mean, for me, after at
thirty six, I'm thinking like, oh, I don't beat it.

(01:09:14):
I don't beat the stereotype, stereotypical placement, you know. And
so to see how he responds when he's down there
at Ashland was encouraging.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Now.

Speaker 13 (01:09:27):
I know people may say, oh, yeah, you know, but
when you're when you're in prison at a camp I
called the superhero camp, I mean, you're stripped of all
of your dignity, You're stripped of all of who you are.
Nobody gives two rats tales about you being PG or
Jen for a council member and stuff like that. And
that meant a lot to me because you really get
to see a person. Everybody has a whole lot of hope,
everybody has a whole lot of dreams and that sort

(01:09:48):
of thing. And it was also these these these young brothers,
a twenty one year old that was down there, to
twenty one year olds that are down and I said,
I will always when I got out, would speak for them.
They shouldn't have been down there. And I was seeing
how he was helping these people that was coming and
talking to him. He's walking, he's running, and he put
himself deep into his spiritual practice, which was which was

(01:10:10):
Christianity and lead Bible studies and preaching and all them things.
Then you got a man, white man, thirty year prison
sentence because he got five years for every time that
he made transactions with the gun on his hip, but
never discharged it, never brandished it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Thirty years he had walked down ten and all these
other things.

Speaker 13 (01:10:28):
You had another black brother, old brother, he was almost
sixty eight, seventy years old. He got out on relief
and he's back down there. So you see these people,
and you see this person from this socioeconomic class who
is in a weird way cheerful. Now he has his
own issues and he's going on home. You don't know,
some bad news come from my wife and you on

(01:10:49):
a color the phone on the wall, and you're talking
on the phone and she's giving you bad news and
I break down and cry, and he's there and he's
helping you. All these other things, so I don't all
that political issues. A guy probably never was seen as
you know, there was ever like an outright competition between
me and PG or whatever. Then whatever political stuff was done,
then that that stuff don't matter when you're down there.

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And what I what I said was is that it
began that redemptive process because you know, I had my
think and and it stemmed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
From just the the enormity of work that that I
was seeing on city council.

Speaker 13 (01:11:24):
I mean, I'm I'm frustrated with Democrats, I'm frustrated, frustrated
with Republicans. I'm frustrated with the loudmouse in the city
who say they want to do something. So if you
recall I had a special media on the Neighborhood Council
and I was talking about deconcentrated poverty. I was saying
in segregation because that was born out of why are
all our people in the West End concentrated to poverty?
English Woods waiting terrorists? So what there's something we could do.

(01:11:45):
We're not supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Doing that, you know.

Speaker 13 (01:11:47):
And I've learned then from other journalists that there's a
lawsuit that's coming out that is trying to address the thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
These are the things that I was talking about before
all of this.

Speaker 13 (01:11:55):
Right, you see all these things, you get and it
has this the pressing effect you get the worst the name.
So in a way, you know, my wife was experiencing
what I wasn't the best person. So in a way,
this creative destruction was was what I would say, divinely orchestrated.

(01:12:16):
Say hey, man, you can't you can't take that out
on this God force that you feel this way because.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
I'm angry at God.

Speaker 13 (01:12:22):
Like why when I read in Riches's Rothstein's work The
Color of Law, and they showed the map, why are
we still in this same predicament?

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Just a little bit improvement over the round? It was
just a little bit improvement. Why is the West? Why
are why? What is going on?

Speaker 13 (01:12:36):
And so then you I begin to talk about us
by language began to change poor white folks, poor white,
poor black folks, working class white folks, working classes black folks.
And I'm saying this about class, about class, the hair
with Republican and Democrat, because all the rich people think
the same you felt. I'm saying, I'm not saying that's
a bad thing, because I think incentivizing through capitalism is
a thing to address just my own ideology.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Some of the eels, but poverty is driving It's.

Speaker 13 (01:13:01):
One of the reasons why I got a call from
one of my dearest closest friend and I'll wait till
she gives me the permission to say it, but she
has been so extraordinarily good to me and my wife.
She had called me and she said, Jeff explained to
the people, what did you mean that if I didn't
go to prison?

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
That wasn't thank you?

Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
Because the whole quote was this, if you don't address poverty,
you're going to keep crime.

Speaker 10 (01:13:27):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
I was the one that said no curfews when we
was having the uprise.

Speaker 13 (01:13:30):
I was the one that said no curfeus when we
was having the Corona and all these other things. I
just don't think that some government should be doing You
feel what I'm saying. But as I'm saying that, and
I'm saying that, you can't solve everything with the police, right,
you have to address by nineties plus percent of low
income housing is concentrated in the West End, while low
income come housing is.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Concentrating on the West Side.

Speaker 13 (01:13:52):
Guess what the grandmother at bond Hill and the white
lady and had Park think the same. They want to
I'm outside their homes and see good. Now, why is
development always? Now you saying all this stuff. But nobody
was listening. No, nobody was listening.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
So to me, Lincoln, hey get the red flag. Yeah,
he afked up.

Speaker 13 (01:14:13):
He said what he's supposed to say. We're gonna running
driveway or run no money, what it cans to be.
He made a mistake. You know, that's what they do
to folks that look like me. Independent thinker and all
these other things. Were gonna make it hammer home. But
everybody else you run to the back. Never mind what
he's talking about. Let's just focus all a mistake. Now,
let me ask you this question. Detroit Red made a mistake.
Paul of Tarsus made a mistake. You understand what I'm saying.

(01:14:37):
Mohammed made a mistake. Every great leader that you count
as a great leader made mistakes. And I would say
Lincoln that I'm more closer to the greater leader that
I wanted to be before those depressive things, because I
couldn't get what I want to done that I've ever
been before.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
And so PG And when he left jail, you cried,
you you were were you crying for him? Believe me?
I mean you cried losing your friend.

Speaker 13 (01:15:02):
When I say it was there were two pivotal moments
when by co defendant left, when PG left and when
I left. Because you know, whether you like it or not,
you feel I'm saying, God gives us all gifts, giftings
you feel I'm saying, and they come without repentance, just
to you know, have a master's of divinity. Just a

(01:15:23):
quick history lesson when when God told Saul the King
to go destroy everybody's Old Testament and he didn't do
what he's supposed to do. Nathan and another prophet comes
right when Nathan, another prophet comes. They come and pick
up saw and say, hey, you know you asked up.
I'm paraphrasing, or whatever the case will be. The prophets
beginning to prophesy, and hey, beginning a prophesy you feel
I'm saying because they say, hey, these gifts don't cover

(01:15:43):
our pens and I'm using the thing. But it was
just like this this spirit that they created around him saying, hey,
you still minds your gift comes with our repentance. And
so even though that I'm fighting against this, this spiritual
thing gets out of because everything is spiritual. What you
do in politics and all these other things. You down
there and guess what you you you seeing somebody worse
off than you. How can you be sad and I'm

(01:16:04):
doing twenty How can you be sad? And he lives
here in Cincinnati, really good brother and how perbission to
say his name, but you feel he was a real
good brother.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
He said, I wish I had the mother that you had.
I wish I had the wife that you had.

Speaker 13 (01:16:17):
Because these brothers are not getting stuff on their books.
And so it became, like I said to earlier today,
it became like this passion. It's almost like you needed
to be like Paul of Tartan's knocked off your perverbal ass,
blinded for five years, sent to prison, and all these
other things.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
But guess what, that's when I went to prison.

Speaker 13 (01:16:39):
That's when my chains broke and my dungeon ship because
you began to see all of the shi t that
you was talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
You're saying, I'm seeing the results.

Speaker 13 (01:16:50):
So when people say, when I tell the people, hey,
this is when you addressed poverty, No abouty gives excuse
my French them about some of the stuff that these
people talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
They want to feed their family.

Speaker 13 (01:17:04):
And this is the language of the working class blacks
and the working class wife that's so missed. If you recall,
I had told one of my colleagues, you cannot talk
to me if you haven't eaten spam. What I was
saying is is that there's a language that working class
people speak.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
That is I've sent from a public discourse today. Let
me take a break and then we'll come back. Jeff
Pastor is my guest. He's out and he's talking twelve
thirty the buzz. No, she was back here waiting on you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Then you have a way. You're in jail when your
baby was born.

Speaker 13 (01:17:34):
No, no, no, I I was out, he was six months.
But how important was it to know she was back
here waiting That that get you through? Oh yes, absolutely,
just because you know, wanting to be be there for her.
If never, We've never been separated, with the exception of
when I did the military right Happy Veterans Day, and

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I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
So it was there.

Speaker 13 (01:17:56):
But every most men, I should say, I don't really
speak for me me. You know, I like being with
my family, you know what I mean, even if it's
you know, just the mundane, the picking up. I was
so encouraged though, by the family that surrounded themselves around
my wife I wanted to go back to something you said,
because I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
I made the point clear.

Speaker 13 (01:18:17):
What I was saying was is that concentrating all of
your efforts on reducing poverty is how you reduce crime.
And had I not made the mistake that I made,
I am confident that things that are happening today wouldn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
That's what I'm saying. That was the entire That was
the entire of my message.

Speaker 13 (01:18:35):
And in addition, right, when you think about twenty eighteen,
I said twenty seventeen on the interview, But when you
think about twenty eighteen, I mean, you had some really
dynamic situations going on. You had a Democrat council right
that was split ideologically. You had conservatives, you had liberal
that was good, you had me the liberty, the Republican,

(01:18:58):
but with the classical liberal, the liberty terry, who hey,
we gotta, we gotta None of it makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
But when you have.

Speaker 13 (01:19:06):
When you have sorry about that, when you have the
the tension, the compromise is necessary. But when you have
everybody pulling from the same pool, it kind of creates
this echo chamber that you see that you're that you're
seeing today. I mean, everybody is pulling all nine plus
the mayor is pulling from the same pool. Now I'm
not saying that it has to be the same characters, y,

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but I'm saying that there has to be ideological differences
so that our people can be served well. And so
my good friend, my dear sister asked me to, you know, elucidate,
and I wanted to make sure that was very clear.
That's what I meant is because you can focus on
my mistake, you can call me what you want, right,
you can focus on the ashes. Here are the fruits

(01:19:48):
of my labor. I mean, let's be clear, Lincoln, there
were loud mouths who was so against the FC Cincinnati stadium. Yeah,
now you got contracts? Yeah, there were there was so
many people. What what Republican demer criminalized in marijuana? Right
from from me? Right from from me?

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Decriminalizing marijuana. So you you enjoying the.

Speaker 13 (01:20:11):
Fruits because who should be locked up for a plant?
This has nothing to do with Republican or difficult. This
has everything to do with the voice of the report.
So when when people say those things, I say, hey,
you're right, my mistakes is what makes me a leader.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
My shadows is what makes me who I am.

Speaker 13 (01:20:26):
I don't run for those no more because that'll that'll
get me back into a mental, emotional and spiritual situation where.

Speaker 6 (01:20:31):
I was in.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Now when you look back at it, can you have
what six children? Okay? Six?

Speaker 5 (01:20:35):
Well that had to be tough to for your wife
to hold that down while you absolute six kids, and
when you came back, was anything different? I mean that
the kids that I mean, what was it the same
as before you left? They were they were better, They
were better, they were better. My wife is better. And
I tell people all the same. I think it was
you know, as within, so without, as above, so below.

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It's all divinely orchestrated, right, because when when you think
about it, nobody, when you're jilted like that, you say,
I never want to go back there.

Speaker 13 (01:21:03):
So what are you gonna do? You're gonna prove yourself.
So I tried to demonstrate that when I first got out.
One of my first posts with telling people how obsessed
I was to come back. These folks are putting money.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
On your books.

Speaker 13 (01:21:13):
You got these brothers who are doing something eer they
getting up and working out every day, right, these brothers
are praying they're reading, they're doing all these other things.
I said, you know what, there is no way that
these investments, these books that are being saying. And it
was people from Cincinnati who was writing letters. It just
made me cry, and I said, for them, for them,
the hell with what people think about you. And that

(01:21:34):
was the difference between that past version of myself and
this version myself. I gave too much of these you know,
people was trying to get you down so they can
step in your place. So they want you to come
down and help them so they could pull you down.
This new version doesn't give it damn about what you think.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
You have to see.

Speaker 13 (01:21:50):
You have to you feeling when you go out to
eat outside and you can eat outside on your patio,
you feel what I'm saying. That was legislation that I ordinate,
ordinances that I put it in place. You feel what
I'm saying. So so you can focus on the mistakes.
I mean, I think that's that's that's your right. You
feel I'm saying. I would even say it might even
be low energy. That mistake was five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:22:11):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (01:22:12):
You're you're feeling the fruits though every time you go
the community benefits agreement, whether you agree with it or not.
When the riots, what's happening and people say, there's no
way that white men and black men were telling fourteen
to fifty year old kids who went to the school
that I used to teach at, right, was telling people
to throw rocks at the cops. They were but were
nobody there. But I'm there for our people. And you

(01:22:34):
got people armchair quarterbacks. Oh heat this other. Now I
would say this, you know now looking back in hindsight,
well let's check paperwork. You got a lot to say.
Let's check some paperwork. Let's make sure that you're really
for the people. You understand what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Saying, So you plan on running again and all this stuff?
He three two three one three two.

Speaker 13 (01:22:55):
I applied for a pardon absolutely, And as I say,
you know, a pardon is not because I'm a title
to It is because everybody deserves mercy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Now, what do you think about Donald Trump? Would you vote?

Speaker 6 (01:23:04):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
You vote for him?

Speaker 13 (01:23:06):
You know, you know the thing with Donald Trump is
that I share a lot of similarities with him. You know,
he was he was indicted, you know, he was convicted
and all of these other things, and he ran some
people told me to still run when I when I
got caught up, or whatever the case would be. So
if nothing else, I appreciate his courage, you know what
I mean. That might not play well what it comes
to be, but guess what, we're authentic. We're being authentic,

(01:23:28):
We're being genuine. So I have no problems with saying that.
And ultimately Donald Trump is the one that our petitionate for.
So I like a person who their flaws are. For
everybody to see you what your what's your witnes see
now in America is and of course you know people say, well,
black man can't do that. You winn to see all
of the sanitization that comes with being a politician.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
Take it off. We want to see who you are.

Speaker 13 (01:23:54):
You got a bankruptcy, you cheat on your wife, you're polyamorous,
you all these other things. These are says, wait, how
did you come back? And all the other things. But
what are you doing for the people? I remember when
I was young, the people that I respected coming up,
they said, hey, votual interest And I said, what do
it means? They said, you might, you might have a
democratic council. But this Republican is really trying to put
money your pockets or this libertarian.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Or it is independent?

Speaker 10 (01:24:14):
Is what?

Speaker 13 (01:24:14):
And I always I always think about like that. So
when it comes to Donald Trump, I don't like to
get it to the national conversation. I just like to
find where their similarities.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
And does your wife is she okay with you running again?
I'm gonna be before we're talking about passion.

Speaker 13 (01:24:32):
We're talking about a partner for passion and a parton
for purpose, and a part because everybody deserves mercy, including myself.
Yeah you might see this black face with this with
this accent or whatever it came, will be, But even
he and even you deserve mercy, you feel, I'm saying,
and quite.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
Frankly, I mean Rod Blagloivich.

Speaker 13 (01:24:47):
Now what I want to say on this record is
that do you remember the judge out in Pennsylvania that
was locking kids up, the white kids up, and the
black kids up, the working class kids up. He got
a party, nobody better than I. But now the man says, hey,
accept my responsibility. I'm walking in redemption. And I'm simply saying, hey,

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I too want to put my name in the hat
for mercy or whatever because will be And guess what,
because of how it's presented or what it looks like.
Guess what, No, my god, absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
That that's that's that's wild to me. All right, Hey, Jeff,
it's been great. We got to get you back again.
Let us know what's going on. And man, thank you
for coming on and we appreciate you. Hav and so
good luck you and your lovely wife. Good luck to
both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:35):
The kids, Yeah, you got a kid that went to
the homecoming dance and all that stuff. Many growing up, yeah,
they growing up.

Speaker 6 (01:25:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
And my youngest is two, man, and you look, I
can have I can have twin girls. Oh boy, you
try trying again. Huh what did just what she said
about somebody? All right, thank you, right now, let's take
a break for News twelve thirty The Buzz