The Lincoln Ware Rewind: November 21, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Or powerful a locomotive.

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They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're just talking about Lincoln.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Wake up, Wake up, Cincinnati. It's time to turn up
the buzz. From bond Hill to Price Hill, from Avondale
to Westwood, ot R and downtown, the Queen City is
tuned in to twelve thirty w DBZ. We are the
buzz of Cincinnati, your station. This is the Lincoln Ware Show,

(01:03):
and I'm Kevin Aldridge back in the saddle, keeping Lincoln's
chair warm and the mike hot while he's out today. Yeah, Lincoln,
he's up in Columbus doing some important training for his
role on the County Veteran Services Commission. So safe travels

(01:25):
on those roads, Lincoln, take care, be safe, and I'm
gonna keep the Queens City buzzing here today in your absence.
In case you don't know me, I'm the opinion editor
at the Cincinnati Enquirer, local pastor at the Great Allen
Temple ame Church youth pastor, not the pastor. The Reverend

(01:48):
Alphonse Allen is the pastor of Alan Temple. Also co
own a pro basketball team here in the city called
the Ohio Kings. The five and undefeated Ohio Kings aint
number eleven in the country. We play this Saturday with
Throw High School, trying to keep the wind streak going.

(02:08):
So if you're not doing anything five point thirty tomorrow,
come on out and check us out. Mississippi James and
his lovely lady came out to the last game. Tony
YUEIY few of you other Buzz listeners came out and
checked out the Kings. Appreciate it. Also, you can catch

(02:29):
me on the Hot Mic podcast, the fastest growing and
hottest podcast in the city. So if you want to
hear more Cincinnati news after I leave at one o'clock today,
you can switch over to YouTube or Facebook and check
out the Hot Mic podcast. Sincy A lot to talk

(02:52):
about today going on around the nation, the state of
Ohio and right here in the Try state. Seven four nine,
twelve thirty is the number if you want to call
in and you want to join in on the discussion today.
It's Friday. Smile Cincinnati. The week is over, well for
some of you. I was just talking to my man,

(03:13):
the real Terrence Howard, who's on the Ones and TUESDA Day. Terrence, Man,
I look, I missed you, brother. I'm glad to see
you this morning. I had a good time when I
filled in for Lincoln. What was that about a month ago?
And man I realized I was like, man, I miss
I missed the real Terrence Howard.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
Man, I know what. I appreciate you. It's great to
be missed.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
You know.

Speaker 8 (03:35):
I don't hear that often from other hosts of this show.
I don't hear that very often. So I appreciate you,
my brother. You always a pleasure to work with, and
it's always beautiful seeing you here.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
And you're doing an awesome job.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
Man Hey, I appreciate it. I appreciate it's fun. You know.
This is this is a great Lincoln has probably one
of the best jobs in the city of Cincinnati, outside
of my own. In case my boss has to be listening,
and I must put that out there. All right, My
job's pretty good too, But Lincoln, this is this is
probably right up there. If mine is one A, his

(04:10):
is one one B. Right, this is a great seat
to sit in, great city, to do it in great
audience to be with, and I appreciate all of you
for tuning in today. So listen, let's let's talk about
Since it's Friday, I want first I want to give
a shout out to my hometown Middletown Midies, who are

(04:31):
in the playoffs. I believe it's the region for Divisional
Division one Region four final. They'll be going up against
Dayton Wayne tonight. One of the best wide receivers in
the country is on Dayton Wayne. I think this was
the young man that actually sued the Ohio High School
Athletic Association for the nil. So that's who. That's who

(04:53):
Middletown is going up against tonight. But but we have
one of I think the best defenses in the state
of Ohio. I mean, these boys are rugged. In two
playoff games, they haven't given up a point. Terrence are
not a single point eight quarters of high school football
Goose Egg from Middletown. So we'll see if they can

(05:16):
keep it going tonight against Dame Wayne. I'll be in
the house supporting my alma mater, these talented young men.
You know, the Bengals could probably use a few of
the Midi's defenders on their team right now. Couldn't hurt.
They couldn't do any worse. Meanwhile, tonight the matchup in

(05:39):
Cincinnati that everybody's looking to see, Elder versus Saint X.
Tickets sold out within a few hours of going on
sale Monday. They had to move it to pay Court Stadium.
The demand was so high. You planning to go out,
all of you high school football heads out there, Oder

(06:00):
Saint X, will you be in the building tonight? What
a match up? Jamar chase out Joe burrow In this
Sunday for the Bengals? Is that smart? Is it smart
to bring Joe burrow In off the bench or off
the injured list for the three and seven Bengals? A

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lot of people are questioning the wisdom if he does
play on Sunday. Most people believe the Bengals are done.
They basically would have to win out to have any
shot at the playoffs, and then probably have to get
some help there because they've lost so many conference games.
But we'll see, we'll see if Joe actually sets foot

(06:44):
on the field Sunday. I don't know. I don't know
how I feel about that. How do you feel about that?
Speaking of the Bengals in Pay Corpse Stadium, the Hamlet
County Commissioner said that that taxpayers will get a rebate,
it's just not the thirty percent that they were promised

(07:06):
on the stadium sales tax. I believe they said that
the rebate rate would be somewhere around four and a
half percent. Four and a half percent, that's a far
cry from thirty percent. If you have one hundred thousand

(07:27):
dollars home, you'll get back twelve dollars and fifty cents.
They say, it's one of the smallest rebates property tax
owners have ever gotten. Now, if you recall when the
county was negotiating this new lease for the Bengals, I
believe Commissioner Alicia Reese was pretty staunch in her position

(07:51):
on this. On this rebate for taxpayers, that was one
of the hang ups that she was arguing against with
this deal. She wanted to assurances that the taxpayers were
going to get the rebate that they were promised. Well,
it doesn't look like that's gonna happen. Looks like you're
gonna get a fraction of that thirty percent rebate. And
Denise Driehouse says the county just can't do it. They say,

(08:15):
we're not in a position financially to give the thirty
percent rebate. What do you think? Are you disappointed? Do
you want the county to scrape together some change to
get you your full rebate. I'm curious to know what

(08:35):
you think.

Speaker 7 (08:38):
You know.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
I don't know you guys, if you guys talked about
this earlier this week, but it's but it's something that
that I definitely want to talk about, you know. Michelle
Obama said earlier this week, she said, don't play with her.
All these folks out here talking about and trying to
encourage her to make a presidential run. She said, cancel

(08:59):
that noise, y'all nots y'all not serious about electing a
woman president. So don't think you're gonna pull me off
the shelf and hype me up and get me to run,
only to be let down. She said, there's too much
sexism that still exists in America the elect a woman president.

(09:22):
I don't know, what do you think. Do you believe
that I do believe that sexism is a real issue
for female presidential candidates. I'm not gonna say politicians I'm
just gonna say presidential candidates, but I happen to think
Michelle Obama is the one person who in this current

(09:43):
political environment can probably break through that. I think Michelle
Obama has enough love, enough popularity, enough presence to be
able to break through and shatter that glass ceiling. And
some of y'all might be skeptical about that based on

(10:04):
what happened with Kamala Harris in the last election. But
Kamala Harris ain't Michelle Obama. Let's get that straight right now.
To compare the two, quite frankly, I think is ridiculous.
Kamala Harris is not Michelle Obama. I think she could win.

(10:29):
I think she would win, especially with you got the
first gentleman, Barack Obama, who would be right there with her.
I just think that's I think that's a powerful combination,
aside from whoever she might pick as a running mate.
But I think that's not much of a conversation because
I don't think that Michelle Obama would run. I don't

(10:52):
think she has an appetite or love for politics to
put herself out there. I think they're eight years in
the White House probably did it for her. But we'll see.
You know, my wife said America doesn't deserve Michelle Obama,

(11:14):
and you know, I kind of agree with that. I
kind of agree that the current state of affairs, the
way our country is going, doesn't deserve Michelle Obama, but
needs Michelle Obama. While we might not deserve Michelle Obama,
I think we need Michelle Obama. One last thing before

(11:37):
we headed the break, Donald Trump said yesterday that six
Democrats who put out a video reminding the military of
their obligation not to follow unlawful orders. Donald Trump said
those Democrats are guilty of sedition, a crime that should

(12:00):
be punishable by death. Man. So Donald Trump advocating for
the hanging for treason, this sedition of six Democrats for
daring to suggest that the military adhere to it to
its oath to not follow unlawful orders. Trump said, that's dangerous.

(12:25):
That's a dangerous message to put out. So telling military
troops not to follow unlawful orders is a much more
dangerous message than saying we ought to hang six democratic
politicians for expressing the obvious. This, ladies and gentlemen, is
what we're dealing with in our country right now. All Right,

(12:51):
I set the table. Those are a few topics. I
got a few others. You might have some other things
that are on your mind. And when we come back
from this commercial break, we're gonna get right to you.
We got Miss Natty, we got Ride, we got land.
All hanging on twelve thirty WDBZ, the Buzz of Cincinnati,
your talk station plans this weekend. I want to hear

(13:15):
about them. Tell me what you got on the agenda
this weekend. Are you going to the are you going
to the club? You're hanging out with friends, You're having
a glass of wine tonight.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
Do people still go to the club?

Speaker 5 (13:27):
I don't.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
I don't know me neither.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
I don't know, Terrence. You know, it's such a different
environment now than when than when we were coming on.
I don't know what these young people do today.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
I think they're more isolated than we were. Yeah, I
think isolation.

Speaker 8 (13:46):
Social media excuse me, social media just made us so
much ice much more isolated nowadays.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
I agree. I agree. I got a I got a
fourteen year old god daughter. When she comes over to
the house and she stays with us, you know, she'll
hang and we'll do family stuff for a little while.
As soon as that's done, buddy. She's in that room
with the door closed, and she's on line with her friends.
Instead of being out somewhere hanging out like you know

(14:14):
we used to do at the mall or wherever it is,
they're online. It's different. It's different, not necessarily you know,
bad or just different, just different, all right. Seven four
nine twelve thirty is the number to call to get
your thoughts in. Today, we got miss Nattie hanging on

(14:35):
rod Lynn Brent. But before that, we're going to go
to Detective Tiffany Green down at the crime Stop her headquarters.
Detective Green, are you glad? It's Friday?

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Good morning, I am How are you?

Speaker 5 (14:50):
I'm good? How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (14:51):
I've been okay, welcome back.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
Thank you, thank you. Who are we looking for today?

Speaker 9 (14:56):
Cincinnati Police Department three is looking for Anthony. Miss Mister
Mitchell is wanted for robbery and misdemeanor adult probation violation
or November thirteenth of twenty twenty five. Mister Mitchell's physically
as celticisstem leave invisible injuries and take the victim's property
without their permission. Anthony Mitchell is a mel Black. He's

(15:17):
fifty years old. He's sixty four and one hundred and
seventy five pounds. Anthony Mitchell has a history of drug
possession and break any enery and was last known to
live on Baltimore Avenue in South Fairmount. Shawn Black is
wanted by the Ohio Adult Polo Authority for a felony
polole violation. Mister Black was originally charged with sell any

(15:38):
flight to avoid prosecution. Shawn Black is a Mele White.
He's thirty two years old. He's five nine and one
hundred and eighty pounds. Shawn Black has a history of
assault and was last known to live in Batavia, Ohio. Listeners,
if anyone has information on where his police can find
Anthony Mitchell or Sean Black, please call Crime Cyppers A

(16:00):
five one three three five two thirty forty where some
of his tips on my mind at crime that shoppers us.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
All right, that's Detective Tiffany Green down at Crime Stopper Headquarters.
Detective Green, you have a wonderful weekend and be safe
out there. We appreciate you.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
You was one happy holiday.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
All right? All right? If you know anything about Anthony
Mitchell or Sean Black, called crime Stoppers at three five
two thirty forty day or night cash for your clues.
All right, let's go to Miss Natty. Always like to
get started with Miss Natty. Miss Natty, how you doing
this morning?

Speaker 10 (16:38):
I am doing sign kensn I'm in Repminister Kevin. Alright,
I'm thanking you for being on for LinkedIn our first
man I Djay, and for sharing where the Lady of
Walking talk and the real chance Howard he got to
experience you today. Oh, I'm so glad. And to my

(17:01):
counsel out here in Lincoln Heights, okay, Oh my god,
I just love you. And I'm waiting for whatever your
topic is going to be, okay, all right, And I
just want to say hello to everyone, and I don't
care if they don't want me to be nice. Hey,
I used to be mean, baby, but I changed that.

(17:23):
I changed that, so I'm changed.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Oh.

Speaker 10 (17:27):
And I want to say hello to my brother Charlie
Winburn and to everyone in our family.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
All right, all right, all right, that was Miss Nettie.
You know I always say if they could just bottle,
put Miss Nettie in a bottle, like everybody should have
a swig of Miss Nettie in the morning when you
get up and when you get going. Like I said
it time and again, everybody should start their day with
that kind of energy, positivity, love, miss Nettie. I appreciate

(17:57):
you getting things off on the right foot. Get you
a bottle of miss Nettie. What do you think about that? Terrence?
All right, we're gonna go next to Lynn. Lynn, what's
going on this morning?

Speaker 11 (18:15):
Hi?

Speaker 3 (18:15):
Hi, Kevin?

Speaker 12 (18:16):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
I enjoy reading your column. We do have the daily
uh inquiry delivered.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
Oh God, bless you, Oh thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Earlier this week, Lincoln had a man on named Andrew
Williams with the boxing club. He and Aaron Pryor not
Aaron Pror Stephan Pryor were looking for a new home
for their boxing club. And I made some suggestions to Lincoln,
as is possible they can check out. I suggested churches.

(18:50):
Lincoln said, a boxing club cannot be in a church.
I cannot understand that you have you're a pastor. Why
can boxing clubs not be in churches?

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Yeah? You know, I don't know that. You know that's
new to me. Lynn. I don't know if yeah, link
Lincoln might have some information that I, you know, I'm
unaware of. I I've never had that request or seen
that request of any church that I've been involved with.
So I'm not sure you know what rules or regulations

(19:24):
you know, individual churches might have about having that kind
of activity. I mean, I don't know if it's and
somehow related to the violence aspect of it, that it
might be something that that churches try to stay away
from for that reason. But I'm not aware of anything
like officially, you know, like in church doctrine it says that,
but it could just be I don't I'm not familiar

(19:50):
with that scripture. I'm not familiar with that scripture land,
But I don't know. I will I will make sure
that I mentioned it to uh, you know, mention it
the Lincoln that you called in and asked it, and
and I'll do a little independent research on my own
to try to see I see if there's anything on that.
But I had not heard that.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
What about your church?

Speaker 13 (20:10):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well, you know again, I'm not the head pastor there,
you know, so I can't speak for I can't speak
for my pastor in this situation, and so I won't.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
But don't you know the rules of the church.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Well, yeah, like I said, I've never heard I've never
heard of anything expressed by him or anyone in leadership
that says we would not do we would not host
that type of event. I haven't heard. That doesn't mean that, Yeah,
it doesn't mean that. That might not be something in
place that I'm not aware of. Like I said, I
just don't think it's ever come up.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Okay, okay, all.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
Right, all right, yes, all right, quickly.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Okay, I have some men for Lady c. Lady c'
is looking for a man. I have to no good brothers.
I don't know what she wants a man that she
is it okay as the man it's on SSI and
snap food stamps and live in the projects, have criminal
records if there, if that's acceptable to her. I have

(21:07):
two brothers she could consider, wow, and my husband. Sometimes
my husband irritates me, so she could have him if
that's the day that he's irritating me. So three possible bits,
two and a half possible bits.

Speaker 5 (21:19):
All right, Well, happy Thanksgiving to you, Lynn. All right,
Lady C. There you got it Lynn better than black
tender right now offering up man on on snap and
SSI and fresh out. I mean, I don't know, I

(21:40):
don't know what like she said she didn't know what
the criteria of what Lady C is looking for, but
there you have it, Lynn the Matchmaker. All right, we're
going to take a quick break and when we come back,
we've got Rod, Brent, Black Lion on the line, and
the Clarion all coming up. Seven four, nine, twelve thirty

(22:01):
is the number to get in on the talk today.
This is the Lincoln War Show, Kevin Aldridge sitting in WDBZ,
your talk station. This is the Lincoln Ware Show, Kevin
Aldrich sitting in for Lincoln today until one o'clock. We're
about thirty minutes in and we got a good line

(22:21):
up waiting to get on the on the line. We
got Rod, we got Brent, we got Black Lion, we
got the Clarion all waiting on hole. But while we
were in the break, Terrence asked me about what I
thought about the Indian Hill Taft locker room situation, and

(22:42):
when I caught wind about it earlier in the week,
I actually thought about writing a column for the Inquirer.
But I said, you know what, let me just sit back,
let me sit back in the cut and wait and see,
you know what, more information comes out before you know,
I say anything, because some times you can be out
of the gate too quick and the information comes out

(23:04):
and then you got to back up and say all
of that. So I say, let me, let me see
how this how this thing is going to play out.
And you know, I I kind of feel like, you know,
this sets up as one of those situations that invariably
becomes a conversation about race and Cincinnati as a lot
of unfortunately, as a lot of issues do. And I think,

(23:27):
you know, sort of the way things are set up
sometimes the way they're presented tends to lend lend into that.
And you know, you've got Indian Hill predominantly white, you
got Taff predominantly black, and the school reporting that you know,

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they've got damage to their locker room, and they're putting
images and things of that nature out there, and it
and it tends to lead into a lot of stereotypes
that some folks gladly revelion or absorbed and used for

(24:10):
all sorts of negative intentions. And so I feel bad.
I feel bad to some degree for you know, these
these Taft students who many of them were maligned and
you know, probably looked at as whatever disparaging label that

(24:35):
oftentimes gets assigned to young black males when you look
at situations like this, and I just felt like the
adults in this situation could have handled things one hundred
percent better. I'm like, first of all, if if there
was if there was actual structural damage or things of
that nature to the drywalls, shouldn't that have been something
that the coaches and the athletic directors, Like, that's a

(24:57):
phone call to me before you get any kind of
official authority involved, right, Like, if your intentions are pure,
if you have a visiting team that comes in and
they do any kind of damage, you know, it would
seem to me like that's something that could have been
discussed dealt with between the two schools before you escalate

(25:20):
it to a place where it hits and reaches the media.
Like this is something, in my opinion, a story that
should have never made its way to the media. That
it should have been something that these two schools. You know,
if the details of the events are accurate and there
was actual damage done, that's something that could have and

(25:43):
should have been handled in internally, I should have never
made its way into the news media's ecosystem. If handled correctly,
you can easily say hey, this is no big deal,
we're handling internally, we gotta we gotta, we gotta situated,
instead of releasing information and then later on coming back

(26:03):
saying well, we're sorry if that was misrepresented by the
media and all of this type of thing. I mean, look,
you can be critical of the media in this situation
if you want, but you got to understand that there's
somebody who released that information, who released those photos and images,
and they did it for a purpose. They did it

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for a reason. There are plenty of things that happened
that the media asks about that Folks say, hey, we're
just not gonna comment on it, or it's handled, or
it's no big deal. You know, if Indian Hill really wanted,
they could have shut this thing down and not even
allowed it to become a story. Right, But that's not

(26:45):
what happened for whatever reason, and that's unfortunate in this case. Now,
that's not to excuse anything that that to have students
if they in fact did something, that's not to excuse that. Right, Like,
it's acceptable to go in and tear up anybody's property.
I don't care if it's already damaged or whatever. That

(27:06):
doesn't give you license to go in and do more damage. Again,
assuming the details of what's been reported so far are accurate,
I have to say that, you know, in terms of
in terms of my comments. So I want to get
that out there. So anybody out there who's saying, oh, well,
you just gonna overlook what they did. No, if they

(27:28):
did something that's unacceptable, right, regardless of if there was
damage there before or not, you don't have any right
to go in there and do more damage. But at
the same time, we know these are kids, they're high
school kids, and you got some adults who have a
hard time managing their emotions after disappointment, after feeling like

(27:50):
you got the shaft or whatever it is. You got
adults that don't always handle it well. So again, not
excusing it, but you know, there's a recognition that sometimes
immature kids do immature things they should be dealt with
and having consequences. But these are not These are not criminals,

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these are not bad folks. They're people who make mistakes,
and I think that they should be handled as such.
I think our attitude in terms of how we handle
kids who make mistakes these days is totally different than
it was when I came up. And I think this
is particularly true when it pertains to minority kids. It's
like we want to throw the book at them. We

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want to give them the hardest penalties possible for being
kids and making mistakes. I tell a story all the
time that when I was a kid, I was I
stole from the Kmart store that my mom worked at,
right would We would go over there and wait for
my mom to get off work. And one day I
was over there and I stole a couple of items.

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And when I got home, my mom saw me with
stuff that she knew she didn't pay for. She was like,
where did that come from? I had to fess up.
She took me back over to the store, took me
to the manager's office and said, hey, my son stole this.
Do whatever you need to do with him. You know,
if you need to call the police, if you press charges,
do whatever. And you know what that store manager said.

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He was a white gentleman. He said, now, I don't
believe in prosecuting kids. It was a mistake. You know,
he needed to not come up in here and do
that again. He needs to understand that. But I'm not
gonna press charges against him, like that's how people used
to deal with situations involving kids. He didn't view me
as some kind of irredeemable delinquent who needed to have

(29:38):
a book thrown at him. He saw that I was
a kid that did something stupid, even though I knew better,
even though I came from you know, parents who taught
me this stealing was wrong. But kids do dumb stuff.
Adults do dumb stuff, but we need to handle kids
with kid gloves and so that that was kind of
my initial thoughts. Terrence. I don't know if that know, uh,

(30:02):
jobs with what you've been hearing this week or what
other folks have been saying. I'm you know, we can
open that up for commentary, you know, from other people
as well. I'd love to hear your thoughts, because I
wasn't able to listen this week to hear what the
listeners were saying. So add that to the list. All right,
before we come up on the next break, I want
to get Rod in here because he's been holding on
for a minute. Rod, you want to talk about black

(30:24):
women as president or maybe Michelle Obama's president. Go ahead?

Speaker 11 (30:28):
Oh yeah, well, that was one of the things I
wanted to mention yeah, this is the real lightning. Rod.
I don't think I ever talked to you before, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (30:37):
Okay, No, I don't think, yes, sir, just like the
okay you feel yes, sir, I feel you. So is
it lightening? Is it lightening? Is it lightning? Is it lightning?

Speaker 11 (30:48):
Lightning?

Speaker 5 (30:48):
D Okay, I got you.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Thank you, sir.

Speaker 11 (30:52):
I appreciate that. Hey, I heard you mentioned Michelle Obama earlier. Yes, sir,
you know about running for president or something like that.
I feel like she got a chance that she would win.
I mean, she's not in the same category as Kamala Harris,
and first of all, she got I think she got

(31:12):
more balls than her husband. I hope if she did run,
I hope she's nothing like Barack. You know, it seems
to me like she's not much like him when she's
out there speaking. She's like him a little bit, but
she's got a little bit more fight in her. I
think she's got more balls. Excuse my affession, but I
think she's got more than Barack Obama. Barack Obama was

(31:34):
a good president, but Barack is a little bit more
weak than she is. He's not as outspoken, and I
don't feel like he's as strong as Michelle Obama is.
What do you think of that? I think I mean
that you know that stuff about I know she said before,
like when they go high, I mean when they go low,

(31:54):
we go high. I disagree with that one too. I mean,
I don't think you need to get down and ridiculous,
but I don't believe in somebody bullying me. And I'm
just supposed to roll over. I turn the other cheek.
You know, it ain't time to do that.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
There's a time for everything.

Speaker 11 (32:11):
You know, there's even a time to kill, not to murder,
but there's a time to kill. There's a time to love.
There's a time to stand.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Up against your enemy. You see what I mean.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
You don't just lay down when your enemy is attacking,
you are coming at you. It's time to people, you know,
like I know the old ways, people used to always
stay well, you know, when they ain't go low, we
go high. Now when they go low, if you can't
go lower, you go even. We get even with them.
You don't go high, because that's just being that shows weakness.

(32:44):
I mean, I wouldn't. What do you think of that?

Speaker 5 (32:46):
Okay, Rod, I'm gonna put you on hold and then
I'm gonna answer, all right, Yes, sir, I appreciate it, Yes, sir.
All right. So here's what I think about what you said, Rod.
I do think that there are differences between Michelle Obama
and Barack Obama, and I do think Michelle has a
little bit more of an edge than Barack does. I
wouldn't say that Barack is weak. I think he just

(33:08):
has a different way of going about the argument, about
going about the fight. I think Michelle ain't playing, she
ain't taking that she's gonna I know she said that
if we go if they go low, we go high.
And I do believe that she believes that. But I
think her high looks a little bit more feisty, looks
a little bit more in your face, looks a little

(33:30):
bit more. I'm gonna tell you like it is, and
I'm not going to pull punches than Barack, who would
kind of try to more smoothly and artfully make the case.
I think Michelle Obama is much more direct than Barack is.
And you know, it all depends on what your flavor is.
Some people like Barack's approach, some people like Michelle's approach.

(33:52):
But I definitely think you're right that. I think both
of them are great orators who frame issues greatly. But
I think Michelle probably ain't playing you know, ain't playing
with it, and so I agree with you from that standpoint. Rod, Okay,
we're gonna take a quick break, and when we come back,
we still got Brent Black Lion Mississippi, James the Clarion.

(34:14):
All on hold, We're gonna get to you guys as
soon as we possibly can. This is the Lincoln Wear Show,
twelve thirty WDBZ, your talk station, Cincinnati, The Lincoln Wear Show.
This is Kevin Alder sitting in for Lincoln until one
o'clock today. We're almost through the first hour of the show.
I just I'm always amazed at how quickly time flies

(34:37):
when I'm in the studio. All right, let's go to
the phones. We got Brent, who's been hanging on patiently. Brent,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 14 (34:44):
Hey, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Kevin?

Speaker 5 (34:45):
I'm doing good this morning? Brother? How about you?

Speaker 11 (34:48):
Oh?

Speaker 14 (34:48):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (34:50):
I said that it was the hot Wheels cars that
was enticing you so much.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
You were right.

Speaker 14 (34:56):
You were right, because it also got my cousins hooked
up when they were it was late it was a
late seventies, early eighties, and they tried to run, and
I don't know if it's a copper security guard caught him,
but when they got home, who so yeah, So they
didn't get a wrest or anything. But I know their
father very very well, and that joker will put the

(35:17):
fear of God in you.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Hey, Brin, I always say I tell people, I said,
I almost wish the police had come got me, because
there's there's nothing that they would have did to me
that would have been worse than what I got when
I got well, what I did get when I got home.
So I would have probably been safer with the police
as much as uh as much as we don't believe
that these days.

Speaker 14 (35:37):
Oh yeah, oh I hear your dad. Hey, I echo
that sentiment when it came to my mom and dad. Yes,
lock me up, don't don't tell my mama and daddy
because they gonna catch me. But uh yeah, not with
the the Indian heels when they filed that police report,
because it's essentially a false police reporter at the very
least misleading. Can they be prosecuted for something like that?

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Well, you know, I'm not a lawyer, and I can't
you know, I can't answer that. I would say probably not,
because there's probably enough there may be enough truth to
what's in the report for it not to be considered
for it not to be considered a false police report,
because again they're they're acknowledging the damage was already done

(36:22):
to the wall, but there was additional damage done, is
what they're saying. And so I guess it's how you
how you look at that. And again you know, maybe
somebody with more of a legal background who's not qualified
to speak on that can answer. And if if you
a lawyer out there and you're familiar with the case,
call in and and uh and see if you can
answer that question. For Brent.

Speaker 14 (36:43):
A lawyer name named Brett Jane him and he may
be able.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
To help out.

Speaker 14 (36:46):
But but one last thing and then I'll let you go.
With Texas football. You know football is huge in Texas.

Speaker 13 (36:55):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (36:56):
For years they've always had I think from the Court
Order finals going up at Jerry's World at where the
Cowboys played, right and charge ten Alston Parking ten dollars
for to get in there, and it flows between there
and down at Houston where the Houston Texans play. So yeah,
so hopefully that the new commissioners will fight hard for

(37:19):
the citizens there to get more than just two free
days in this next contract that they eventually get it.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
So yeah, I think that, And that was one of
the things that the commissioners were kind of touting with
this this Saint ex Elder game down at at pay
Corpse Stadium. They were they were touting that as saying, see,
this is an example of how this new lease allows
us to get more community events in the stadium. And
they're going to they you know, they've said they're going
to be pushing for more events like this. And the

(37:47):
fact that they were able to turn it around so
quickly and you know, get it to happen and you know,
less than twenty four hours, I think does speak to
the differences in what they've what they're able to get
done now versus how they were wrestling with the Bengals
in the past on use of the stadium.

Speaker 14 (38:04):
So yeah, yeah, all right, Yeah, I know you got
other calls and wanted to make sure you get to
the especially the next caller, because yeah, get to him.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
All right, all right, Brad, take care, all right, we
got Black Lion on the on the line. Black Lion.
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (38:20):
Man?

Speaker 5 (38:20):
This is this is what what's up?

Speaker 13 (38:22):
Man?

Speaker 5 (38:22):
Hey listen, I heard that Lincoln. Don't Lincoln, don't let
you call in.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Now?

Speaker 15 (38:31):
Lincoln got me on yet another lifetime band.

Speaker 14 (38:35):
Okay, yeah, another one.

Speaker 15 (38:36):
Ou to survived many of them, but he's sticking to
this one.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Well, you in luck today, brother, because I'm not I'm
not Lincoln, So you get you gotta. You got a
one show, two three minute reprieve right here. So make
it count, Make it counts.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
That's what's up.

Speaker 15 (38:52):
That's when I call you.

Speaker 14 (38:53):
Just hold up the wire.

Speaker 15 (38:55):
And turn your head, not under the wire.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
All right.

Speaker 15 (39:01):
A couple points I wanted to touch the basis. He
was talking about the Indian Hills. I haven't heard anything
from Tad saying that the students did commit some sort
of damage.

Speaker 13 (39:14):
Have you? So?

Speaker 5 (39:15):
I think the superintendent put out a statement, if I'm
not mistaken, and his statement it was either the superintendent
or the eighty I can't remember which one, and I
think his state in his statement he talked about that yes,
there had been damage to the walls that had been
there previously, but that there was additional damage done to

(39:38):
the drywall and the structure beyond what was already there.
So I think that's been their position, with the implication
being that was committed by the tab students.

Speaker 15 (39:48):
Well, I think the superintendent line because more, how does
he how did he disserve? Which damage was which? How
was it that the prior damage wasn't already noted and
recognized versus being passed off as all of the damage
was done by the task students.

Speaker 11 (40:11):
So I think you lie.

Speaker 5 (40:12):
Yeah, yeah, Well.

Speaker 15 (40:13):
Let's move on, move on, because I got better, better
things to talk about than in people and their little
drywall issues. Uh, you mentioned Michelle Obama, and I think
I think you lie or to yourself, and you're not

(40:33):
being quite honest. These people are not ready for a
woman president, let alone a black female president.

Speaker 16 (40:45):
They're not gonna vote for that.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
They're not.

Speaker 13 (40:47):
It's just nothing.

Speaker 15 (40:48):
It's not enough. The Triglo dites do not want to
see a female as their leader. Since the Civil Rights movement,
they just stopped enslaving their own pink woman. The pink
woman couldn't do X, Y and Z. She didn't have liberties.
Her liberties came through the black civil rights movement, which

(41:12):
she has no respect for, and she should I mean,
the pink woman may be ignorant, but she's not stupid.

Speaker 16 (41:20):
Okay, Now my last point.

Speaker 15 (41:23):
You do acknowledge the problem in black communities across America
is poverty, right I do no education, help resources, each other, each.

Speaker 14 (41:35):
Other, et cetera.

Speaker 5 (41:36):
Right, Yes, I agree with that.

Speaker 15 (41:39):
But you'd still agree that black people shouldn't receive cast reparations.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
No, I've never said I don't believe that black people
shouldn't receive reparations. What I've always said on reparations is
kind of like what you just said about a black
female president. I just don't believe we'll ever get it.
I don't think we'll ever get reparation in the form
of a mass monetary payment that is going to go

(42:07):
out to black people. And I think a lot of
that is based on history. I think a lot of
it is based on racism. I think a lot of
it is based on, you know, the current capitalistic system
that we have set up. And I just don't think that,
you know, the majority community in this country is ever
going to allow that to happen, and that includes white Democrats.
That's been my position.

Speaker 15 (42:28):
I agree with you, and I'm mistaken. I thought your
position was that we didn't deserve it or shouldn't have
it for some reason or another. But that's fine. I
accept your position.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
That's pretty cool.

Speaker 15 (42:41):
Now I'm one more point and I'm gonna get it out.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Of here, all right.

Speaker 15 (42:46):
I understand that many people believe in voting in this
criminal statler colony. Clearly, your vote has not changed the
sentiment of pen people. They have not, they will not,
It has not. I would like for you to try
to explain to me how do you believe de colonization

(43:09):
to be predicated on maintaining the colony?

Speaker 14 (43:14):
Yeah, I hang up the.

Speaker 5 (43:15):
Next time, all right, all right, thanks Black Lion, thank
you for the call.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
All Right.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
So, Black Lion, you know, putting a lot of lot
of deep thought issues on the table, and so I think,
you know, his larger question is can you actually can
you actually change just a system that you believe to
be corrupt or oppressive by participating in that system? And
Black Lion, you can tell me in the comments if

(43:40):
I'm framing that wrong. And I mean that's a you know,
that's a deep philosophical question that I think, you know,
black people have been wrestling with for a long time,
you know, I mean It goes back to I think,
you know, you know, Marcus Garvey, who felt like, you know, hey,
black people need to have their own need to have

(44:01):
their own nation, need to have their own situation, and
we can't have that here in America, all the way
to MLK, who believed in, you know, integration and then
later came behind and questioned whether or not he had
integrated his people into a burning house. So you know,
I'm not gonna sit here and be arrogant enough black

(44:23):
lion to say that I got the answer when there
are people who are a lot smarter, who are a
lot more connected, involved and so forth than me, who
definitively haven't been able to answer that question. But we
got to go to break right now. When I come back,
I'll finish my thought on that, and we'll come back.
We'll get the clarion on. We'll get Mississippi James, Brian,

(44:47):
Gary Mustafa all hanging on twelve thirty WDBZ. The Buzz
Your Talk station is the Lincoln Ware Show, Kevin Aldridge
filling in for Lincoln Where today on this Friday, seven
four nine, twelve thirty is the number to call if
you want to get in on the conversation. We've been
talking about is America ready for a black female president

(45:12):
in the form of Michelle Obama. We've been talking about
the taf locker room incident. We've been talking about a
lot this morning. We even had some matchmaking going on
in the first hour. But to continue what I was
saying before we went to break on what Black Lion
was saying about, you know, black people in this mayor
in this country participating in a system that oppresses them.

(45:38):
Terrence made a good point during the break. He said,
the fact that Black Lion could even come on and
ask that question or make that statement shows the progress
that black people have made in this country by participating
in the system. And I agree. I think Terrence is
right on the money with that. You know, look, while
we are nowhere near where we want to be in

(45:59):
term of equality, equal opportunity, eliminating the wealth and poverty
gaps in this country and erasing the specter of racism,
that still, you know, lose looms large, particularly systemic racism,
which I know, you know a lot of my Caucasian

(46:20):
brothers will vehemently argue against, mainly because I think they
don't understand the concept of what that actually means we've
still made progress, We've still made gains, which says that
the system is capable of changing, but it requires us

(46:41):
to be engaged in that system. It requires us to vote.
It requires us to not only vote, but to hold
those whom we elect accountable for delivering results. You know,
this is one of the things that I've said, and
you know, sometimes I get criticism for criticizing Democrats, But
my criticism of Democrats is not that they haven't done

(47:05):
and helped to make way for great change for black
people in this country. My argument has always been they
haven't been enough. The return on our investment is not
equal to the loyalty and dedication that we've shown. And
part of that, I think is our own fault in
that we don't hold those who we elect to office

(47:26):
accountable enough for the votes that we give them. And
many of these folks we re elect for, you know,
and they haven't delivered on what was promised. And so
my criticism of Democrats is not anything against the party
per se, but it's more like, hey, you got a

(47:46):
lot of support from a lot of from a lot
of black people, a lot of working class and in
some cases poor black people those who do vote that
there's no reason why some of the things that we
see should continue to persist. Right, It ain't just all
Republican blocking, right that like that's a convenient out. You know,

(48:08):
we've had as many Democratic presidents as Republican presidents in
my lifetime, and there have been plenty of times where
you've had, you know, the Democrats that have been in
control of both the House and the Senate Senate, and
to look at what's being delivered. I mean, we can
debate that, and I'm open to debating that, but from

(48:28):
my perspective, in my opinion, I would I would have
wanted to have seen a little bit more. All right,
let's go to Clarion. Clarion, what's on your mind?

Speaker 14 (48:39):
Hi?

Speaker 17 (48:39):
I'm good, how are you?

Speaker 6 (48:41):
I was calling it in response to the lady who
was talking about the boxing. I think her name was Lynn,
but I apologize if I'm incorrect. But she had mentioned
to Lincoln about maybe churches could be a venue for that,
and Lincoln told her he didn't think that was a
good idea because what Drew was looking for is a

(49:03):
facility where they can put up their ring, and once
they put the ring up, they want a place where
they can put it up and leave the boxing ring up,
and so they needed a dedicated facility. So that was
what he's you know, that's what he said to her.
It wasn't religion, It was just practicality.

Speaker 17 (49:22):
And then the other thing about voting and voting for
the change that you want to see is it requires vigilance,
diligence and stay engaged and voting and every opportunity and
knowing what you vote for. Because when you vote for
a Democratic president, if you've done that and then the

(49:45):
midterms come and you either don't vote or you vote
for you know, the change, then you're not going to.

Speaker 6 (49:52):
Get the results that you want. But also the Republicans
showed a lot of vigilance and that when the Civil
Rights Act was passed, the people who were against it
immediately started fighting against it and trying to undermine and
undo and they did that with ebbs and flows, but

(50:15):
for sixty years, and they got John.

Speaker 17 (50:19):
Roberts in there in the early two thousands.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
From George Bush and he allowed the first crack in
the Voting Rights Act and etc. So that that was
a lot of vigilance. They were determined and they knew
what they were voting for. They were voting to overturn
the Supreme Court, and they had some wins and losses
along the way, but they kept fighting to get what
they want. So that it really does require all of

(50:44):
us for the change we want to see that we
just have to be vigilant and know what we're voting
for them. Like you said, hold the people accountable and
let them know that, yes, we elected you, but we're
going to turn around and get you out of here
if you don't do what we want you to do.
It's not a one time event, because for a lot
of people, voting is a one time event or an

(51:05):
every four year event and that sort of thing. So
that it takes vigilance to get what you want. It's
not a one and done. It's a lifetime of commitment
to that.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
Absolutely, thank you Clarion for your call. I mean, she's
absolutely right. You know, this process is not just about
voting on election day and then going and sitting back down,
like it's a continual process of participation, of being in politicians' face,
of holding them accountable and also you know, recognizing the stakes.

(51:39):
I mean, I think one of the biggest things that
folks didn't recognize back in twenty sixteen was the importance
of the Supreme Court seats that were going to be up.
And I think that I'm not going to say Hillary
Clinton didn't talk about it on the campaign trail, but
she did didn't do it enough. In my opinion, the

(52:02):
Republicans understood it. They understood that getting a Republican in there,
that they were probably going to be able if they
won in twenty sixteen, that they were going to be
able to shift the dynamics of the Supreme Court. That's
why Mitch McConnell did all the blocking he could in
that last year and not allowing Obama to make the
appointment that he wanted to make because he knew that

(52:24):
not only could the next Republican president fill that seat,
but probably fill another and law and behold that turned
out to be the case. And now we look at
what is pretty much an impotent Supreme Court that is
pretty much laying down and kind of letting Donald Trump,
you know, do whatever he wants and is winding back

(52:44):
you know, federal protections, everything from abortion rights all the
way down to you know, civil rights legislation and voting
rights legislation, all of these things. You know, the Supreme Court,
which is, you know, sometimes our last line of the
fence when you have a Congress who's unwilling to do
anything in a president who is definitely heading down a

(53:06):
path of trying to roll back games. I don't think
folks recognized how significant those Supreme Court seats were back
in twenty sixteen, and so we got to be plugged in.
We got to know what the stakes are, we got
to know what the issues are. So I agree with
you one hundred percent, clearing, Let's go to Mississippi, James, James,

(53:27):
how we doing this morning?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Doing pretty good? Brother?

Speaker 14 (53:30):
I just want to change the conversation a little bit,
okay to the Ohile Kings. All right, all right, hey, that's.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
A good product you put on the field man. The
game I came and watched.

Speaker 5 (53:41):
I appreciate that.

Speaker 12 (53:42):
Let me actually, do any of your guys, anym.

Speaker 13 (53:44):
X NBA player or do they have aspiration to try
to get.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
You know, ten day contracting to the NBA or are
you guys a feeder or what's what's the situation there?

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Yeah, so our situation is many of the guys who
play for we don't have any ex NBA players. We
do have players who have played overseas in Europe, in Mexico,
some in Canada, and that's where a lot of the
guys that play at our level typically try to play. Now,
they do have aspirations to make it the G League

(54:16):
NBA obviously, but for many of our players, I mean
I tell people all the time, you know, you came
out Mississippi, James, you saw the level of talent that
we have there, and you look at these guys and
you're like, man, why aren't they playing? Why aren't they
playing somewhere at a higher level. And what I always
tell folks is that that lets you know how great

(54:38):
the elite of the elite athletes are, because these guys
are really good, and it's still tough to break through,
you know, at you know, the higher levels of professional sports.
And so that's why a lot of times when I
have opportunity to talk to young people whose aspirations are
to play professionally, it's not that you're trying to kill

(55:00):
their dreams, but you want them to understand the kind
of work ethic and other things that need to be
in place for you to make it, you know, to
the G League or the NBA. You got to be
an extraordinary talent and an extraordinary person, so you gotta
It's not just the talent all the time. Sometimes it's
other things that you got going on in your life
or things that you haven't buttoned up that can keep

(55:22):
you from getting the higher levels. So so yeah, we
do serve as a feeder, but primarily it goes to
mostly overseas leagues and other professional leagues like that.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Okay, I appreciate it now, I'll leave it at that.
But that was a good product you put out.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
Hey, I appreciate it, and hopefully we'll see you at
at a game in the future.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Well in the future, because I'm in Mississippi.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Now, be March before I get back up that way, Okay,
Well hopefully by then when you get back, James, we'll
be hosting a playoff game by the end, so you
can check it out.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I'll be there, all right, James.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I'd probably like to leave with hellos of my Mississipping
North Pham which Lincoln don't like it, but he's he's
a Mississippi Northern.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Okay, all right, James, Hey, listen, you'd be safe down there, brother.
All right. That was missus Sippy James. We're gonna take
a quick break and when we come back, we got
Brian Gary on the line, Mustafa, miss d and rod
All waiting to talk. Twelve thirty The Buzz your talk station,

(56:29):
Buzz of Cincinnati. This is the Lincoln Ware Show. I'm
Kevin Aldridge with you today until one o'clock, filling in
for Lincoln. Where it's Friday. Maybe you got paid today,
if you get paid every Friday or every other Friday,
whatever your pay schedule is, if you got some money
in your pocket, I know you're feeling good. Pay day

(56:53):
is always a great day. All Right, we're gonna go
to the phones. We got Brian Gary, who's been hanging on. Brian,
what's on your mind? And I say, you want to
talk about City West?

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Kevin Aldridge, how are you?

Speaker 5 (57:04):
I'm doing good man, How are you.

Speaker 12 (57:07):
Doing well?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
So?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I was so pleased to hear your voice when I
turned it on. Kevin Aldridge, I know your voice. But
so I'm in the car traveling to my grandson's Special
Friends Day. I'm in the car with my mother, Patricia Garry.
Kevin Aldridge, Hi.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
Hey, how you doing Patricia? Good to hear your voice.

Speaker 12 (57:28):
I am good.

Speaker 18 (57:29):
You're good too, I can tell all right.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
So I wanted to talk about City West, and as
you know, we at Neighborhood United have have placed numerous
people there. In fact, all of the people we placed
there who were displaced by the sc stadium and then

(57:54):
the city closes down many buildings throughout the city orders
them bation, and all of them that we have represented,
we have we've placed in City West. So we have
a lot of people there and we're very very concerned,
you know, for our families, and we will be there

(58:17):
at the six pm meeting tonight.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
Hey Brian, Hey Brian. Give for those who might not
be familiar with what you're talking about, give like a
thirty second Give like a thirty second interview or overview
of what's going on, because we don't want to assume
everybody listening knows the.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Details absolutely, and the details are still coming out, but
we know that there's a scam going on with the
city saying that the city that c mha owes them
four millions of the city. But CMAHA is saying, oh, well,
we need to sell all these properties so we can
pay the stake debt, and they're trying to sell five
blocks within the city West and then the rest of it.

(58:56):
They are trying to gentrify, so they're calling it this
position which dispositioning means selling, so that I don't know
why they use these words to try to confuse people.
They're also using the word repositioning, so and repositioning, of
course means gentrifying means making it repositioning in the market
to make it a more expensive product. So then they

(59:19):
are also doing what's called RAD and RAT means the
privatization of public housing, so putting it into private hands
instead of the public, you know, which all of us
are a part of the public so you know, we
are part of HUD, We're a part of all public
housing and so on. But in this way it goes

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into private hands which will then demolish the property those
five blocks that are directly thirty feet from the stadium.
And FC is behind all of this, and then our
FC owned city Council and SC owned mayor.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
So how many folks are how many folks are we
talking about being displaced by potentially by this action. And
then tell us what's going on today? You mentioned something
that was going.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
On today the six PM media, So the Lincoln Courtlaw
Holmes of course, were demolished and rebuilt in nineteen ninety eight,
so thirty years you have thirty years of protective status
for it to be affordable. So twenty twenty eight those
could go away, and so they're preparing for that. And

(01:00:25):
you know the FC is all behind the gentrification of
the West End. Well it's not just sc of course,
it's the billionaires. Who are you know, think that they
can run the city. Well, City West, you know, was built.

Speaker 19 (01:00:38):
In nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It's you know, so that's considered to me a pretty
new development to need to suddenly be needing to be
so called reposition you know, renovated.

Speaker 12 (01:00:49):
But beyond that, there were about five thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
People who were displaced out of the Lincoln Court and
lawrel homes. It was then reduced inside by about half
when it was rebuilt. Almost no one was able to
return who was displaced by the rebuilding.

Speaker 12 (01:01:11):
And that we presume it's going to be the same
case here, you know, where they display someone say you're
going to renovate the building. So they're going to renovate
about supposedly, according to these documents, you know, somewhere around
fifty or sixty to seventy percent of the of the units,
and then they're going to sell about twenty five percent

(01:01:33):
of the units according to these you know, this is
a information that's that's trickling out that we're going to
need further information for and we are you know, going
to be fighting that of course.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
With the residents at the front of the situation.

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
All right, Brian, Well, thank you for calling in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
I'm sorry, Lincoln.

Speaker 14 (01:01:56):
I was just.

Speaker 12 (01:01:58):
I've arrived at my grandson's school. Well, but I did
want to just you know, finalize this by uh, you know,
inviting the city, inviting all of your listeners to.

Speaker 1 (01:02:10):
You know, participate in this fight. We will be having
you know, a rally soon because are you there, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
I'm sure if you if you can wrap it up
in like thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah, just wrap it up very quickly. We will be
having a rally.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
There will be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
You know, obviously a lawsuit, but beyond all that, everyone
in the city should be concerned about about corporations taking
over entire communities and that's essentially what is happening here.
And and you know, basically the communities should be making

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the plan for the city, not uh not not large developers.
So right now, large developers are making all the plans
for a city such as this. This is just an example,
but is happening in all of our communities, and we
have to take the power back, take the Democratic Party
back from the corporations, and take our city council back.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
These all right, Brian will listen, Thank you for the call,
Thank you for the information. All right. That was Brian
Gary talking about a meeting tonight to address the issues
going down at City West. So if that's something that
is important to you or that you want to be
involved in, there's a meeting happening this evening. All right,

(01:03:35):
We're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,
we've got Mustafa, we got miss d We've got Rod
and ray all waiting. We're gonna get to you as
soon as we come back. Twelve thirty WDBZ The Buzz
of Cincinnati on o'clock today, Kevin Alder sitting in the
pilot chair for Lincoln, who's off today. He'll be back

(01:03:56):
on Monday. And we've been talking about a lot this morning.
Seven nine, twelve thirty is the number if you want
to get on the line. We just had Brian Gary
on talking about what's happening at City West and the displacement,
the potential displacement of hundreds of people there and a
meeting that's happening this evening to address. He said a

(01:04:20):
lawsuit will be forthcoming in that situation. We've also been
talking about is the country ready for a black female president?
Michelle Obama says no, absolutely not. She's she's not drinking
the kool aid. You'll not gonna hype her up and
get her out there only to be disappointed. We talked

(01:04:45):
about the tab locker room situation. It's been out there.
We got a lot going on, but right now we're
going to go to the Dukester and find out what's
on the menu.

Speaker 18 (01:04:57):
Hey, top of the morning to you, Kevin, how are you?

Speaker 5 (01:04:59):
I'm doing good? Good this morning? How are you?

Speaker 18 (01:05:01):
I'm doing well? This better than most, Okay, not as
good as some. And good morning and happy Friday bus listeners.
That's right, it is Friday already, and Kevin, I have
a special announcement for all the folks that love chitterlings
but don't want to go through the troubles and the
hassle of fixing them. Now write these down, folks, Wednesday,

(01:05:22):
November twenty six, that's the day before Thanksgiving. You will
be able to get your Kittling dinners or get your
fix on at Deduce to carry out only at the
carry out from one under seven. And if you still
need us to prepare that deep fried turkey or ham
or any other side you might want, all you have

(01:05:43):
to do is give us a call at five one, three,
seven six. Twenty three hundred callers now, don't wait. And
also as a reminder, I want to tell everybody that
the thanks That Dukester will be open on Thanksgiving Day
from one untill six now, Kevin. On the Dukes's menu
today is our Kender meat loaf with mash, potatoes and
gravy and fried apples. Or check out the best chili.

Speaker 14 (01:06:06):
On the planet.

Speaker 18 (01:06:07):
It's called Texas Chili and it's loaded down with morussels
and ground beef, peppers and onions, and just to write
them out of herbs and spices, they'll certainly do a
cap dance on your taste.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Buzz.

Speaker 18 (01:06:18):
I'm eating them right now. We're also featuring our Saint
Louis barbecue ribs with baked beans and potato salad. But
my pick for today Kevin is our big fish sale
that starts right now and lasts up until seven o'clock tonight,
and Kevin, everybody gets four dollars discount. So folks take
advantage of this's deal today and come and see us

(01:06:39):
at the Dukester and have a blessed weekend. We'll talk
at you later, Kevin, take care, all right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
You do the same, Jesse. All right, there you have it. Man,
A Douster's menu always sounds so delicious, but I gotta
admit I will not be in line for one of
them chilling dinners. I I you know, Jesse, sure they're delicious.
I'm sure you you fix it up right for those
who who enjoyed that sort of thing, But I have

(01:07:07):
never been a fan of the chiling dinner. Now, everybody
in my family eats Chitling's except for me and my dad.
We were the only two in our whole household and
would not eat chitling, so my mama had to make
us something else. So you might get, Jesse, a good

(01:07:28):
number of the Aldridge family down there for those chilin dinners,
but brother, I will not be among them. All right,
Let's go to Mustafa right now on the line, Mustafa,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 13 (01:07:41):
Oh, what's on my mind? Is this spoopball Nicki Minaj
speaking out against Nigeria led atrocities against Christians. Okay, I
just found that way out of whack. Okay, atrocities led
by Donald Trump of all people.

Speaker 7 (01:07:59):
So what did? What did did?

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
What did she say? For those who for those of
who might not be familiar, what was it that Nicki
Minaj said?

Speaker 13 (01:08:06):
So that not familiar? They've been alleged, it's been alleged
that Northern Nigerian Muslims are killing Southern Christians, burning down
churches and just flat out killing people simply because they're
Christians who are the Muslim faith. I'm Nigerian. Totally preposterous,

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but bear in mind there are conflicts between Christians and Muslims.

Speaker 11 (01:08:35):
There are some bad.

Speaker 13 (01:08:37):
Actors out there, but they are not necessarily targeting Christians
and going in burning down churches like Heathens did in
the South during the Jim Crow era. So Nicki Minaj
needed to get her facts in line issues a Nigerian,
if she had any real connection with West Africans, she

(01:08:57):
should do that. She should speak with them. Don't follow
this European team of the liars Donald Trump on a
path or speaking out against a ledge atrocity, and she
hadn't even done of the country, spoke to any people
of the major tribes, House of Europe or evil about
what's going on. Right, you know, she's a nunner chain

(01:09:18):
of sticktive singing. I get it, okay, cool. I might
listen to you on some isamo some politics if you
need to deep in the game and you're you're a
real activist, such as I'm I'm gonna say, Muhammadadli. You
a real activist and you joined the organization or group
and you got some knowledge. Just don't read no script

(01:09:39):
that this guy give. You're spending last thing. Let me
say this, in order to have a credible boxing gym
for kids, this is something the park district need to do.
They can finance it now. Years ago form a heavyweight
champ Ernie Toil we had the WBA title in the

(01:10:01):
nineteen sixties. He had a gym in Chicago. He was
an X pro and little money. He was promoting fights
and he could finance a gym. You take a lot
of money to finance a full fledged gym, right, you
know what I mean? Heating cooling insurance facility itself. You

(01:10:22):
know what I mean, keeps your lights on in the joint. Yeah,
it's a monumental task man. People may not realize it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
Oh absolutely Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:10:31):
If it's not making money, it bleed you, straining you.

Speaker 5 (01:10:34):
Yeah. But but but you raise a yeah you think
thanks for your call, Mustapha. I appreciate you. But but
Mustafa raises a good point in that you know there
are and I know this is this is easier said
than done. So understand that I'm not presenting this as

(01:10:54):
a as like a slam dunk or an easy thing.
But I do think that there are possibilities for partnerships
out there. You know, he mentioned the park District. I
don't know if the park District is the right partner
or would even have any interest in this, but I think,
you know, this is one of the things that you know,
we got to address when we talk about in this city,

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the need to give our kids alternatives to what's going
on out there in the streets. And so if we're
serious about that, and you have individuals who are trying
to do things like creating a boxing gym, which we
know all of the disciplinary benefits and other things that
comes along with sports, whether you're talking about boxing or

(01:11:39):
football or basketball or whatever. And people who are out
here who are trying to create positive outlets for our
young people but might not have the resources, the facilities
or whatever. These are the types of things that I
think are elected officials in our business community should be
trying to partner on to find spaces and ways to

(01:12:00):
support this kind of stuff. If we're serious about trying
to change the dynamics of what our kids in the
in the inner cities and wherever are dealing with and
giving them positive alternatives, right, why can't we find a

(01:12:20):
way to partner on things like this Because it's not
an inexpensive venture, no, but compared to some of the
other things that money is getting spent on, you know,
millions of dollars on you know, on stadiums and things
of that nature, we can't come up with a facility
and a place and and find deep pockets in this

(01:12:40):
city that can support something like that. I just I
just don't think that's the case. And so you know,
if you're out there and you're listening to this sort
of thing, and you got some connections and resources, find
these find these gentlemen who are trying to do that.
Sit down, give them a meeting, let them present their
idea and their vision for what they're trying to do.

(01:13:03):
You know, I get you know, hey, let's go to
the church community and blah blah blah. Okay, yeah, you know,
I hear that. But we got enough big corporations, fortune
five hundred companies, people with significant resources in this city
that if we're serious about providing alternatives for our kids,
these are the types of positive outlets instead of having

(01:13:29):
our kids. If you worried about kids fighting in the street,
give them an alternative, give them a gym where they
can go, where they can channel some of that energy
in a positive way. Right. I'd love to see I'd
love to see somebody do that, because that's been brought
up a few times here today. But we got too
many resources, too many connections in this city that we
shouldn't be able to make something like that happen. All right,

(01:13:49):
let's go to Miss D. She wants to talk about
Trump and the Democrats. Hello, Yeah, hey, ms D, you
want to talk about Trump and Democrats?

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Morning?

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
I'm good. How about you?

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Oh, I'm holding on, I'm fine, Thank you, Brian, Gary,
I thought he should have got elected. I've always liked him.

Speaker 19 (01:14:12):
He he is for the.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
People, I believe, and him and people like Prior step On,
guys who and women who have people's best interests at heart,
they'll never get elected because they just they straight shooters.
And that's not the that's not the objective. It's it's

(01:14:37):
all about money. And you know, if I vote this way,
I'll get some backroom deals. All that stuff I believe
goes on. Who's who's down there doing all that? I
don't know, but I'm calling you and I normally sound
like a broken record, but you know, and you had
a caller, a lady caller that talked about voting. Let

(01:14:59):
me just say this before I get to this point.
If it's okay, and that is, voting is very important
in my opinion, But that's not where it should stop.

Speaker 19 (01:15:09):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
I think we need to go back to the old
ways of boycotting, uh, you know, meeting the pavement to death,
getting all of the public people. Most people, mister August,
they do not follow politics and they don't really know.
So that's why the public always ends up with the

(01:15:29):
short end of a stick because they're not informed as
to how things work in city council and wherever L
three D CPS whatever their name is down there, they could,
you know, just them that that Drew wants.

Speaker 19 (01:15:47):
Why can't they, you know, why not do just a.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Little something, have some compassion for the children, people at disadvantages.

Speaker 19 (01:15:56):
Why not? Why can't they do that? Everything is about.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Money and fill in their pockets.

Speaker 19 (01:16:01):
But that's not why I called.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
I called because mister Aldridge, the Democrats. And this is
where I sound like a broken record, and I know it,
and I don't care because to me, it's true. And
that is the messaging that they do is horrible. They
let these Republicans say things like Biden's administration wasn't nothing

(01:16:24):
and he didn't do nothing and he was a great president.
They don't say that. They don't say just like Donald
Trump last night or yesterday, he said that he wants
to kill some Americans, congress people, lawmakers. He want to
shoot them for telling the truth. They keep saying. The army,

(01:16:45):
the army and all those guys in the military. They
already knew. Why did they have to put it on TV?
They already knew what.

Speaker 19 (01:16:55):
The code is about.

Speaker 4 (01:16:57):
You know, illegitimate or is from a nut like this president.
If it's if it's not legal, they are not allowed to,
you know, invade. And Donald got really mad about that
because he's trying to go into Venezuela and take those
people's oil.

Speaker 19 (01:17:15):
It ain't about no little boats.

Speaker 4 (01:17:17):
How much how much Doe could be on a little
speed boat. Yeah, and what kind of then is that
gonna do? Any of that?

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
All that's bull All right, real quick, like I got
you got like ten seconds.

Speaker 14 (01:17:31):
I got to get to break, okay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
And then they don't say the Democrats don't say the
snack program week and all that. If they took all
of that, it still wouldn't be a drop in the
bucket to help this debt. What would help the debt
is to take the corporate the corporate welfare away and
then you probably could see a little something. Thank you
for taking my call.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
All right, thank you ms D. All Right, we're gonna
take a quick break, and when we come back, we
got ray Rod and Omar on the line. Seven four nine,
twelve thirty is the number. This is twelve thirty WDBZ,
the Buzz of Cincinnati. Kevin Aldrs sitting in for Lincoln
until one o'clock. Your talk station. Got a lot of

(01:18:12):
callers today, a lot of topics on the table. We
got Rod who's been waiting patiently. I'm gonna go to him.
And we got Ray and Omar also waiting on the line.
You know, the douster just got me going now on
these chitlings, Terrence, and so what I want to know
when you call in whatever other topic that you got,

(01:18:34):
I'm just curious. I need to know how many chitling
eaters I got calling in the day. So when I
come to you on the line, yes and no, thumbs up,
thumbs down the chilings, I need to know. All right,
Rod's what's on your mind right now?

Speaker 11 (01:18:47):
Oh you just made me laugh. I just say thumbs
up with chilling. That's how I'm gonna favorite that one,
all right. You know, I don't care what nobody else say.
But anyway, Yeah, you remember you said you was putting
me on hold. Otherwise when the call back, then.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
Man, yeah, my bad man, what I did? So going back,
go ahead, you can respond. So obviously you heard what
I said. So I'm gonna give you a couple of
minutes to respond.

Speaker 11 (01:19:10):
Okay, thanks for letting me back. Then I was gonna say, yeah,
you right, she don't play. When Michelle Obama, when she talks,
she don't play. See Barack. I remember one time when
the crowd booed because somebody mentioned Donald Trump. He said,
he started going, now, don't bore them, you know, and
I got to thinking, man, what are you talking about?
Letting people boo this criminal man? But anyway, that just

(01:19:31):
showed the sign of its punking out. You know, like
a lot of people punk out when they come to Trump. Like,
for instance, okay, like these told some of my thunder
when he was talking about them lawmakers that he threatened
to kill.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
He said, these people deserve to.

Speaker 11 (01:19:45):
Die just because they're agreed. I mean, they disagreed with
his unlawful things he's been saying and telling the military
what to do, you know, kill people that's innocent stuff,
you know, blowing up boats and stuff. People need to
just all that what it is, murder. They need to
just say it and say it to his face, you know.
But anyway, I wonder, I know you ain't got much time.

(01:20:07):
I wanted to say, yeah, I disagree with Lincoln one
time when Lincoln said that Trump was afraid of putin,
you know, all that fighting over there going on and
and Trump said that, I mean, he just teased that guy,
the president of Ukraine, Zulensky. He teased that guy and
told him he was gonna give me some long range
Tamahawk missiles. Okay, if he would have gave that guy

(01:20:29):
two thousand long range Tomahawk missiles, that guy would be
bombing my style right to this day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
He would be.

Speaker 11 (01:20:38):
Bombing the Kremlin right now. And I guarantee you, hello,
I'm sorry, I go ahead, And I guarantee you that
Putin would have been changing its colors on this war.
Trump knows that. But Trump he Hey, Lincoln, I know
you listening. Trump is not afraid of Putin. He's on
Putin's side. He's doing this if that what Putent taught

(01:21:01):
him to do. He's getting proods in place. And when
I know you get ready to go out, my mama
gonna wrapping it up. He's doing exactly what Putent told
him to do. When people speak out against him in
my in Russia, they're they're they're dead, they wind up dated,
they in order to die. Just that's the same thing
Trump is trying to do here in the United States,
among everything else that dictators do. Thanks for having my

(01:21:24):
having my call. Can thanks all.

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
Right, right, all right, thanks for the call. All Right,
we're gonna go to Ray, who's been waiting patiently. Ray
thumbs up, thumbs down on Chilling's then you can go
ahead and get to your your.

Speaker 16 (01:21:35):
Point thumbs down like I all right, all.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Right, what's all your mind?

Speaker 16 (01:21:40):
Broad Uh? First of all, before I get to the politics,
you mentioned somebody had mentioned your your basketball team, Yes, sir,
And a lot of your players are they former McDonald
all Americans or they're just good and just happen to
make your team.

Speaker 5 (01:21:58):
Some are some you know, have gotten some recognition. Some
guys are just really are really good, you know, really
good players who you know might have just flown under
the radar. You know, people develop in basketball and different
at different stages, you know, and for a lot of

(01:22:18):
different reasons. And so there are some people who might
have been you know, good players at the high school
level here in Cincinnati or elsewhere, and then you know
they get to college and other areas and they develop
in their you know, into really great you know, into
really great prospects. So yeah, there's some of that.

Speaker 16 (01:22:35):
Yeah, the NBA has changed, and it's some of like
you even if you stayed four years in college, you're
considered too old because you've reached your potential. And they
look at eighteen nineteen year old kids and so and so.
A lot of it's just about the luck of the draw,
you know, being in the right place at the right time,
or having the right connections. But that's sports.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Let me that's life. Let me get yeah, that's life, right.

Speaker 16 (01:22:58):
Yeah, yeah, let me an offics. Now we're in this
situation because, uh, black folks and white folks refused to
vote for Hillary Clinton, a woman. They would rather vote
for a guy who just got off the Access video
bus and talked about grabbing women by the private you know,
and pump what Trump was not a politician then, he

(01:23:21):
just he's just a reality show host. So any normal
politician at that time who had said that wouldn't have
wouldn't have They Republicans would have booted them out a
long time ago, you know, for other things, women and blacks,
you know, we we already know they would they wouldn't even.

Speaker 11 (01:23:40):
Vote for Kamala Harris.

Speaker 16 (01:23:41):
So Michelle Obama is right, you know, folks are not
ready for a woman, and a black woman at that
you know, Oh, President Obama. Now I could have googled
this while I was on the phone, but I didn't.
I think when Obama won, he had the House and
the Senate his first his first two years, I think
he had six he's sixty senators, enough to make a

(01:24:03):
change at the Supreme Court. But he didn't do that.
Kim Ryan, he had a chance to become you know,
he lost his seat because he didn't want he didn't
want help from Joe Biden. You know, he thought he
can do it on his own. And he didn't want
no help from Joe Biden, no money, didn't want to
come as counting for him.

Speaker 11 (01:24:22):
And she lost.

Speaker 16 (01:24:23):
Now, he was all over MSNBC at the time, Prime
about what the Democrats didn't do, you know, And so
a lot of these things what democrats can't seem to
get out of their way, you know. So and this
just judge Supreme Court justice I think Ruth Vader Ruth

(01:24:46):
ingerd Vader or something like that, ninety years old, refused
to leave the bench. And what a year later she died.
Now she could have Obama could have had that seat.
And so that's why I said, democrats can't seem to
get out of their way winn Terrace. One voting term,

(01:25:08):
they only voted. Five people voted up there. They can't
seem to get out of their way. So some of
this stuff is self inflicted. And then they get the
nerve to cry, so black folks act to jet.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
Us all right, you know, all right, ray well, I
appreciate the comments. I'm gonna address some of what you said.
On the other side. We're gonna take a quick break.
Twelve thirty WDBZ. This is the Lincoln where show Kevin
Aldre is sitting in until one. We got Rick Jr.
Waiting on the line. We're gonna get to him as
soon as we take this break.