The Lincoln Ware Rewind: September 3, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm still on a speeding bullet, more powerful on a locomotive,
able believe all buildings at a single down.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, I'm in describe. It's a fairy Lincoln. Lincoln, Lincoln
b bingus banana, Bana being gun feed, bine ling gun Lincoln.
They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother. I'm
just talking about Lincoln. Good Good morning, Cincinnati. Welcome to

(00:50):
twelve thirty w DBZ. We are the buzz of Cincinnati,
your talk station. The Lincoln Wear Show till one o'clock
this afternoon has turned me on. When I was practicing,
I was doing my rehearsing, and he got the end
of it. Anyway, we got it off, and we're here, Lincoln,
We're with you till one o'clock this afternoon. It's Wednesday,

(01:12):
short week, short week. Yes, it is very short week
for me. So boy, there's a lot going on. Where
do we start? Where do we start?

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Yeah, and I missed the story. The Hamleton County Prosecutor
will not challenge the appeals court ruling on Elwood Jones
on the retrial. So they're not gonna challenge it. They're
not gonna appeal. And so this is another step forward

(01:45):
for Elwood Jones. Remember he was on the show and
spent how many years in jail? Mike thirty years in jail,
almost man, and he's out. I talked to him the
other day. He's looking for a job. I don't know
how that would work. How is it? You know, it
might be tough for him to find a job in
limbo like he's in. I don't know. I don't know,

(02:10):
but I do believe at the end of this thing,
he'll be a free man. He'll be a freeman. Spend
all that time in jail for crime that he didn't
commit back in nineteen ninety four. Geez man. So I

(02:35):
think maybe we'll talk to Connie Pillage later on today,
Hamula County prosecutor about this case. I don't know if
they and she wants to talk about anything else if
she can. You know, all that stuff is still pending.
You know that this is an ongoing case. Yeah. When

(02:56):
Judge Wendy Cross, I like Judge Wendy Cross. She's alright.
I like Judge Wendy Cross. She's a cool lady too,
she's tough. Yeah. Well, some people are upset that the Bearcats.
The reason why they lost they say, because they were
in Kansas City in Nebraska territory. The game was played

(03:21):
in Kansas City, Nebraska is just a little bit north
of Kansas And so anyway, the Bearcats sold their home
game rights to play out there, and I think the
Bearcats got like seventy five percent of every ticket. So
so they made out like a fat rat in that game. So,

(03:44):
you know, do you sacrifice money? You got to pay
these players money nowadays they probably won't needed that money
to pay these players. Or you sacrifice having a home
field advantage and maybe you might win that three point
game if you on your home bill. So that's uh

(04:06):
something else. I want to say congratulations to my man
Durrance Daniels of Lincoln Heights City Council. I used to
work with Durrance over at the cin w CI in
years ago, and they sort of kicked him off council

(04:26):
saying that he didn't pay the Lincoln Heights taxes and
he said he paid them. But anyway, they didn't do
the proper procedures to kick him off council, and h
he's back on council. Judge put him back on, Yeah,
and he always said that they didn't do this right,
they did me wrong, and so Durrance will be back

(04:51):
on the Lincoln Heights City Council. Yes, I wonder what
Miss Nettie had to say about that. Yes, she's not
talking about any details. Yeah, okay, okay, all right, so

(05:14):
we won't ask her about the brawl. But she can't
go into any details. Okay. We knew that. We knew that.
But my man Elwood Jones, I'm glad he's making progress
toward his freedom. You know, you see these black men.

(05:34):
Anytime somebody gets out of jail, they've been in there
for twenty thirty forty years, it's always a black man.
There's always a black man that's been done wrong, stayed
in prison all that time, and then they find out
he was innocent. Then he's back out on the street
after spending half his lifetime in jail. Unbelievable, unbelievable. See

(05:59):
what else, oh, City council spending four point six million dollars.
That's a lot of money on public safety initiatives. They're
giving the police more money for overtime and recruiting. I
thought they just gave the cops like a million or
two a few weeks ago. Now they're pouring more money.

(06:20):
I don't want to hear anybody say defund the police.
They're defunding the police, because Cincinnati is definitely funding the police.
So if you hear anybody say they're defunding the police,
tell them they're lie, or maybe just slap them in
the face. Nothing happened to you, pretty much. You might

(06:43):
get a misdemeanor. But no, don't slap them in the face.
But tell them they're lie if they say the City
of Cincinnati is defunding the police. So there you go.
Budget and Finance Committee Chair Jeff Crammerdine introduced the motion

(07:07):
on Monday, and there you go. His motion is co
sponsored by Seth Walsh, Mika Owens, Mark, Jeffries and five
votes needed to pass, and I'm pretty sure they'll get
those five vote votes. They probably get them. All all

(07:28):
nine will probably sign on to this. Man. What about
Trump bombing these ships that they say hauling the hauling
drugs from Venezuela. Yeah, and the president there of Venezuela
says that's AI. He said that wasn't a real ship.
He said it was AI. So I don't know who

(07:51):
do you believe? Nowadays? AI is just messing everything up.
You don't know what the hell to believe, but I
do believe it was a real ship and it was
a real hit, and they blew the hell out of
that ship. Everybody on there is dead. Man. I guess
they had some good intel that that ship was loaded
with drugs. Yeah, a man is facing murder charges after

(08:18):
shooting an eleven year old boy in the back. Yeah,
they were playing this game Ding Dong ditch. How they
run up to the door, ring the bell and run,
or knock on the door real hard and run. And
this guy was sitting waiting on him and as a
little kid, rung the doorbell and turned around, ran and

(08:41):
got shot him in the back. So he cannot plead
self defense or anything like that. He shot and killed
this eleven year old kid in the back. Now he's
facing murder charges. Unbelievable. And as everybody always figured that
the one minute of missing tape in the Epstein case,

(09:09):
it looks like it's true. One minute of video tape
is missing, and that must have been when they hauled
him out of there. Somebody went in there and hung
him or did something to him in that one minute
and his girlfriend slash wife or whatever. She said, he

(09:31):
didn't commit suicide. He didn't commit suicide, because I mean,
you know a person, You probably know a person what
they would do or not. And she said he would
not and he did not commit suicide, so she knew.
Somebody said that was fake news. They can't bomb a ship.

(09:51):
Hold on, let me see what they say. Let's see
they can't bomb a ship with alleged drugs on it.
Yes they can if they were headed to the United States.
He wants to send a message, don't bring these drugs
into the United States. Uh, somebody say, I saw that.

(10:15):
I was wondering what was that game? At first? Well,
the game was supposed to be here. Then they was
supposed to play in Indianapolis, and it was like a
bidding war between Indianapolis and Kansas City, and Kansas City
won the bidding war. They gave UC seventy five percent
of the ticket sales and the place was sold out.

(10:37):
And I think Travis and his brother Jason were the
only bear Cat fans there, it seemed like to me.
And maybe Taylor Swift is a Bearcat fan too, so
we'll put her. We'll include her in there. My good
friend Chanelle Jones is going to return to the Today

(10:58):
Show after four months after her husband's death. She's gonna
be on the third hour with think who's on there, Savannah.
I'm not sure who's gonna be on there with her,
But she's gonna make her return to the Today's Show
after her husband died. First he had brain cancer. She

(11:19):
stayed off with him during the brain cancer. Then he died,
and she, you know, with the children. And so she's
gonna make her return to the Today's Show on Friday.
I think it's Friday, yes, So we'll be looking forward
to seeing Chanelle. Let's see what else is happening. There's

(11:43):
a lot going on. I'm telling you something everywhere. Cardi
b is upset when somebody asked her about the offset
Stefan Diggs triangle that's going on and asked if she
was pregnant, and she got all mad and yeah, it's crazy,

(12:06):
it is crazy. A couple other parents are going to
be asked to add the chat GPT is going to
add some controls so that kids can't get information on
stuff without the parents knowing. I think some kids were

(12:26):
getting information on how to commit suicide on chat GPT
and yeah, and it was telling them how to commit suicide. So,
you know, unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable. And let's see what else

(12:46):
is going on here? Man, Oh yeah, of course. You
know the judge has ruled that the National Guard deployment
in LA was illegal after the fact. You know, he
does this stuff and he knows it's illegal, but he
does it anyway. And then, oh, I'll be finished doing
what I'm doing by the time the courts say I'm

(13:09):
not supposed to be doing this, and They're gonna relocate
the Space Command down to Alabama, taking it out of
a blue state and moving into a red state. How
about that. Unbelievable, unbelievable, And let's see what is I'm

(13:33):
sure we haven't heard the last of that boat being
blown up by the United States coming out of Venezuela.
And I'm sure there's gonna be some other stuff, some
fallout behind that. I'm sure a University of Kentucky cheerleader
has been arrested for hiding her dead infant in a closet.

(13:57):
I guess she had a miscare or something and didn't
want anybody to know she was pregnant, and instead of
throwing the baby away, she hid it in a closet
and I don't know how much longer she thought that
was gonna last. But she's charged with abuse of a corpse,

(14:20):
concealing the birth of an infant and man infant was
found deceease wrapped in a towel inside the back inside
a black trash bag in a closet. She admitted to
giving birth, according to police, Why didn't she just go

(14:41):
to the doctor? I don't know what? What? Why does
she feel the need she had to hide it after
the fact. I don't know. You know anybody that went
to this nursing school that it's called the Ata College.
It's in Spring and it's closing its practical nursing diploma program. Man,

(15:06):
I didn't realize it cost that much. It's like thirty
two thousand dollars to get to become a licensed practical nurse.
Thirty two thousand dollars. That seems like a rip off
to me. Thirty two thousand. Anyway, this place, the people
who would paid that money, very few of them passed

(15:29):
the tests to become a licensed practical nurse nurse. They
didn't live up to the national average. In twenty twenty three,
the national average was eighty two percent of people who
went to class graduated. It was only forty two percent
at at ATA in twenty twenty two, only thirty percent passed.

(15:53):
And it's crazy they only had one year when over
half the people passed the test. That was in twenty nineteen.
But the national it was fifty two percent. Here, the
national average was eighty one percent. So they were failing
the students. And the IT team did some investigation into that.

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And there's a lot going on, a lot going on.
All right, let's take a break and then we'll come back.
Lincoln where twelve thirty the buzz snatty, that's a Lady
Ses theme song. Yes, put it into one ads. All right.

(16:36):
Kim Kobert, FOP president coming up at twelve noon today?
How about that? He's calling in. He's not coming in.
I've tried. I gave him the option to come in,
but he chose to call in. So we'll see. Oh,
by the way, I'm going on. I guess I'm going

(16:57):
on the next honor flight. I just now. You know
how they take veterans to d C for one day.
You go up there in the morning, come back in
the evening. Uh, they're on they're into my age group. Now.
I think all the World War two guys they're pretty
much gone now or have taken a flight. So they're
on the Vietnam vets now. And my name got called.

(17:19):
So I'm going on the Honer flight to d C.
How about that? Yes? And you can't take your what
do they call them, not sp it's a sponsor. They
call them your sponsors or whatever. And you they won't
let you take your wife or your girlfriend. Why, I

(17:40):
don't know. I never understood that they won't let you
go with your wife or your girlfriend. So you have
to find somebody else to go with you. And Liz
Keating is going to be my sponsor. Yes, it's Liz Keating,
So there you go. And she's been fighting to get
more African Americans on these flights ever since she was

(18:02):
on council. So when she was doing this, she said,
I'm gonna put you in for the Hunter flight and
I'll be your sponsor, and then when you get called,
we'll go to DC. So I'll be going to d
C with Liz Keating on the Honor flight. Yes, so
there you go. And she's been fighting. And then we'll

(18:24):
give out the information we need more African Americans to
go on those honor flights, because when you see them
at the airport, you bear you see one black here,
one over there. You don't see no more than two
or three. Out of the seventy or eighty one hundred
people that go, you see two or three blacks. So
we're trying to get more black veterans to sign up

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and go on the honor flights. Yeah, so it'll be good.
All right, Let's go downtown to the crime Stopper headquarters
and check in with my good friend Detective Tiffany Green
on the scene. How you doing, I'm good, good morning.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
How are you, Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
I'm hanging in there, hanging in there doing great. Yeah,
your FOP president will be on at twelve noon today,
how about that?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Okay, I'll be toneday.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
All right, all right, who are we looking for today?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Clinton Austin Clinton Alston is wanted by the Ohio Adult
parolea authorities for a felony parole violation. Mister Austin was
originally charged with burglary. Clinton Austin is a mel Black.
He's forty five years old. He's five eleven and one
hundred and eighty pounds. Clinton Alston has a history of
resisting arrest and was last known to live on Vine

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Street in Clifton. Gabrielle's Clancy. She is wanted by the
Ohio Adult PAROLEA authorities. We're a felony parole violation.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
MS.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Clancy was originally charged with felony fest Gabrielle Clancy is
a fe the White forty three years old. She's five
nine and one hundred and sixty three pounds. Gaviriro Clancy
has a history of drug abuse and was last known
to live in a Million, Ohio. Listeners, if anyone has
information on where police to find Clinton Alston or GAVIRIAU Clancy,

(20:17):
please call Crime Stoppers at five one, three thirty five
to two thirty forty or submitted tip online at Crime
Desk Stoppers dot Us.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
All right, sounds good to me. We will talk to
you tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
Yes, all right, have a good one.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
All right. That's Detective Tiffany Green on the scene with
Crime Stoppers three five two thirty forty night or day.
It's cash money for your clues. Yes, And someone says
that's a political move by her to be we had
This has been going on for two years for two

(20:53):
years or more, we've been trying to get more black
folks on the honor flights and maybe I'll get her
in here. Well I can't get her, and she's running
for council. Well anyway, after the election, we'll get her
in here. To get more black folks signing up for

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the honor flights to DC. You fly up in the morning,
you fly back in the evening, and you gotta have
somebody go with you. A lot of these guys are
in wheelchairs, and uh, they need medication and all kinds
of stuff. So yeah, but the list is moving into

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the sixty five and old over crowd. Sixty five. They're
down to sixty five years old now. So they were
up into the eighties, you know what I mean, up
into the eighties. But there you go. All right, five one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty. Let's take a break and then we'll come back. Shine.

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You're up on the other side. The Lincoln Were Show
twelve thirty, The Buns your talk station, The Lincoln Ware Show.
Plus we've got tickets to give away to the Preservation
Haul Jazz Band, The Preservation Hall Jazz Band with the
Creole Christmas. It's at the Tap Theater December eleventh, and

(22:24):
we've got those tickets to give away a little bit
later on in the show, so stick around for that. Yes,
all right, let's move along. Let's go to our good friend,
Hamilton County Prosecutor, County Pillage. How you doing today?

Speaker 6 (22:43):
Good morning, Lincoln, I'm great.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh, hanging in there, hanging in there. Good to talk
to you, Good to talk to you. A lot has
happened since the last time we talked. I can't believe it.
So much has happened. Let's talk about mister Jones. Ellwood Jones.
What's going on with that case? You opted not to
appeal the court ruling, the appeals court ruling.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Yeah, So there were two appeals that were filed before
I took office. The one that we just got a
decision on over the week, I think it came out
Friday was a motion to exclude evidence. So, as you know,
mister Jones was granted a new trial and the defense

(23:26):
asked asked the trial court here to exclude some evidence
and it was basically a testimony of a police officer
who has now been deceased, and the court agreed that
it shouldn't be allowed in. So last year, my office
appealed that to the Court of Appeals, which handles all
appeals right here in Hamilton County, and they issued their

(23:48):
decision that they agreed with the trial court that that
stuff can't come in.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (23:52):
So I looked at their reasoning, I familiarized myself with
the case and decided that we will not appeal. We
do have the right to appeal that to the Ohio
Supreme Court, but I've decided not to do that.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
And wasn't it even said that this would never even
belonged up at the Supreme Court. It never should have
gone to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Well, this particular issue has not yet gone to the
Supreme Court, and I'm not taking it there. But there
is a different issue that's at the Supreme Court right now,
and that is whether the judge, mister Jones could have
a new trial at all.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Okay, okay.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
And so that the judge granted it last year, the
local judge, and then the office, you know, the Prosecutor's
office before I got here, appealed to tried to appeal
it to the Court of Appeals. They basically asked permission,
and the Court of Appeal said no, you don't have
the right to do that. So last year this office

(24:55):
appealed that decision to the Ohio Supreme Court. It's kind
of a larger issue that impacts a lot of different things.
We sent our lawyers up in February to do their
oral arguments and we've been waiting since then for the
Supreme Court to make its decisions.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Well, the records seem to show that those lawyers for
the Prosecutor's office with Hell a whole lot of evidence
and things like that, So I mean, it's been proven
that evidence was with Hell. Right.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Well, of course, these are different people, different individuals. The
prosecutors that handled that case back in nineteen ninety six,
I guess it was they've retired and moved on, and
at least I believe they all have. So anyway, they
don't handle appeals. That's a special department in my office.

(25:48):
But yeah, several courts have ruled on all kinds of
different issues in this case.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well, couldn't you just cut your losses and drop the
charges and drop it and move on. The man's been
thirty years in jail almost and you know, I think,
you know, why are we still fighting to keep this
guy in jail and he's out. He's out on appeal.
Now he's out, but he's out, and.

Speaker 6 (26:13):
He's been compliant on his release from prison. And he
is older, and these appeals do take a lot of time.
But what I'm trying to do is just look at
the facts, look at the procedure, and follow the law.
And this is where we are right now. So he's
got rid of gotten rid of this one issue, and

(26:35):
we're waiting for the Supreme Court to resolve or not
resolve another issue. And that's you know, it's hard to
see how long it takes, but this is normal. Yes,
So I said that my appeal lawyers went to the
Supreme Court last February and did there they have to
give a little argument front of the Supreme Court of Ohio.

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And that was six months ago now, and we are
starting to see some decisions from that part of the
year start to trickle out of the Supreme Court. So
it takes this is not unusual for it to take
this many months or even more. So we're hoping that
at some point soon we'll find out where we stand

(27:19):
and we can decide where to go from there.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Wow, I tell you. And he's trying to he can't
get a job. He needs a job to work, he
needs a few more quarters so he can get Social Security.
And he's just in limbo, you know, after all, he's
spending all that time in jail. Now he's still in limbo,
but he's at least he's out on the street. He's free.
And so you say he could be more months before

(27:43):
the Supreme Court comes back with the ruling.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Huh, well, it could have. There's no way for me
to know what they're working on next.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
And I think Joe Ditis probably should recuse himself. Wasn't
was he the prosecutor at that time? I'm not sure
if he was or not. I think might have been
around there that.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
That Mike Allen was an office at some point. But
if he wasn't the elected prosecutor, he was working here
all right, But I just don't know. I haven't looked
it up. Sorry, Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, there have been a lot of talk on the
Big Brawl. I know the cases are still pending, but
uh uh and the the the the Russian guy, mister Travinsky. Uh,
the charges what misdemeanor charges against him? Uh? What's your
what's your thought on all that?

Speaker 6 (28:38):
Well? I have two things I'd like to explain, and
I have a couple more after that, but the two
big ones are that there are two prosecutor offices in
Hamilton County. One is the City of Cincinnati Prosecutor, which
handles misdemeanors that that occur within the city limits to

(29:00):
Cincinnati limits. The other office is my office, Hamilton County Prosecutor.
We handle misdemeanor offenses that occur outside of the City
of Cincinnati, as well as felonies that occur anywhere in
the county and juvenile offenses that occur anywhere in the county.

(29:20):
So the second thing I want to make sure people
know is that my office does not investigate crimes. That's
not our job. We don't go out and search out
evidence and go door to door asking people questions. That's
what the police are supposed to do. And when they
collect their evidence and they fill out their form and

(29:41):
write up a charge, that's when it comes to us.
We don't get it till get to the courthouse. Basically,
so they get to the if they arrest somebody, they
book them into the jail, and if they're not released
right away, then they'll see a job Usually in the morning,
unless it's a Sunday, then it might be till Monday,

(30:04):
and the judge will set the bond. Don't We ask
for a bond based on what the law says, and
then the judge hears from the defense attorney, and then
the judge makes a decision on what the bond is.
So those are different. Nobody knows this stuff that I
know because I've been in this system for a while.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Now, have you seen it? Go ahead, go ahead. Have
you seen a complete video of the entire incident, because
it seems to be only a few people have seen
the complete video of this whole event.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
Yeah, so I have seen the video, and I can
tell you that the video that I saw was not
from individual There might have been a little bit of
an individual cell phone, but it was mostly surveillance video
cameras that were stationed stationarian in a fixed to a building,
so they were a little easy to seek.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
What about it inside the club? Inside the club was
that video and.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Anything inside the club? But you know, keep in mind
that right now that video is evidence and we can't
release it until we're supposed to do that in accordance
with the court rules. So that's that's the process that
my office has to follow. But I do want to
make sure what people know about mister Travinsky is that

(31:26):
the police charged him with a misdemeanor. That misdemeanor happened
within the city of Cincinnati, so it doesn't even come
to my office I have. I have nothing to do
with that, and I and I know people don't notice
because most people aren't involved in the criminal justice system.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
And I guess people are on you. Why don't you
charge you with the felony? So if it doesn't come
to now, somebody told me the guy in the red
shirt who was slapped by Travinsky, uh, that he tried
to foul charges and his lawyer told him not the
foul charges. Have you heard anything like that?

Speaker 6 (32:03):
No, okay, no, but there's you know, no no one
who's pending charges from my office and pardon me, from
the grand jury. It's going to talk to me about that. Yeah, yeah,
they shouldn't. No, I haven't heard. I haven't heard quite that.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
So, Uh, mister Travinsky, the white Russian as we call him,
we haven't seen him in court. His lawyer has been
doing all the talking. When when is he going to
actually have to appear in court.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
You know, I don't know, uh if the city is
prosecuting that, and I don't always follow their schedule. We've
got thousands of cases going on in this office.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yes, yes, all right, Well what about the blacks who
were charged with felonies? Now you're going to see those
cases come to you. And when they would charge some
of them face up to thirty years in jail. I mean,
was that over overkill or just or what?

Speaker 6 (33:01):
You know, Sometimes it's hard to understand what the grand
jury will fixate on. But the grand jury is there
in theory to be sort of a shield for the people.
Back back in the old days, the king would point
a finger at someone and say I accuse you, and

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then they'd be carted off and dumped in the river.
But what the grand jury is supposed to do is
look at this and see what is there is there
probable cause that this might have happened, and that's and
if they find that, then they issue an indictment. And
their deliberations they're all done in secret, so I don't
know what they've what caused them to do that, But

(33:43):
those were the charges of the police brought to us,
and that's what the grand jury delivered.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Okay, well we'll follow.

Speaker 6 (33:50):
It's early in the process. Don't forget Lincoln. It's early
in the process. So typically what happens after they get indicted,
they have another bond hearing, and as you saw, one
judge did lower the bond on two of the suspects,
but not on the others, and so then they start

(34:10):
having their cases that but it's a process. There's lots.
There are quite a few what we call a pre trial,
which means you're just going in to make sure you're
getting the schedule for the case when different evidence must
be disclosed. It's basically just getting things organized for the trial,

(34:31):
and that can last several months.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Yeah, but man, some of those what they face if
they're found guilty. Boy, I mean, I'm sure the prosecution can,
you know, request to the judge. You know, we think
this person gets maybe two years or one year, but
thirty years gee, I mean, that's up to the prosecutors
to request that. I guess, huh.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
We do request, and the defense speaks up at the
same time says, if they're convicted, and we do with
the prosecutor always request what they think is appropriate. The
defense requests what they think is appropriate. And I've seen
a full gamut in my practice over the decades that
I've been practicing law. I've seen crazy requests from the

(35:19):
prosecutor and crazy requests from my colleagues on the defense bar.
And then that's us usually figures it out.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Now, was a special prosecutor being caught in? Did that
ever cross your mind to do that? No? Yeah, and
why not?

Speaker 6 (35:34):
I mean, I don't see any conflicts.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Okay, okay, all right, Well they they told me you
only have a short time this morning, but we appreciate
the time that you gave us. Connie Pillage.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
I'm so happy to be able to chat with you,
Lincoln anytime.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
All right, next time we want to get you in
the studio. Can can you make that happen?

Speaker 6 (35:55):
I can?

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Okay, all right, all right, we'll talk to you. All right,
all right, that's how many county prosecutor county Pillage And
can't you know, uh, she throws it back to the city,
you know, throws it all back to the city. We'll see,

(36:18):
we will see, all right, five one, three, seven, four, nine,
twelve thirty. Let's take a break and then we'll come back.
The Lincoln Ware Show twelve thirty the buzz run Lincoln,
wear with you till one o'clock coming up at one
riven Ale Shopton, keeping it real, Keeping it real. I
wanted to Sharpton do the zoom at the nand meeting?

(36:43):
Did Cisel tell us that? I can't remember if he
did or not when he called in, But anyway, I wonder,
I'll I'll ask that the next time. Uh, the Elwood
Jones case would be handled differently had powers or deeds
still been on the No, it wouldn't have. No, they
would have fought to the end because it was Republican

(37:04):
prosecutors who sent him to jail. So powers and deaders
would have fought like heck, then keep him in jail.
He wouldn't be out now all right, let's move along
by one three seven thirty? Shine, then, Lady c David
and Jay Wright? Shine? How you doing?

Speaker 8 (37:25):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (37:25):
Lincoln?

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Good? I'm on this construction site, can you?

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (37:30):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (37:30):
Did you see that press conference they had in abadials
regarding to burden apartments down there?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
No? I didn't.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
Well, anyway, they was regarded like slum lords. The condition
of the residents and things of that nature and you
know how I go slum lord.

Speaker 8 (37:44):
But what they didn't talk about Lincoln. It's from apartments
all the.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
Way down at the end, right, it's called Harmony Apartment.
And it was a lady they took out of the
apartments that had to see right, this this a kiss.
She been dead since May seventh or something like that
around May. So she been dead in that apartment since May.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Oh my goodness, but listen, this is the worst part.

Speaker 9 (38:11):
Management knew about it and they didn't remove her from
their apartment because every time they got a maintenance person
to try to do it, they wouldn't do because of
a sex. So removed the lady literally last Why didn't.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
They just call the police?

Speaker 9 (38:26):
Because it in Ohio, believe it or not, in Ohio,
if a person dies natural causes, you could just leave
a body in the house.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
You don't have to.

Speaker 9 (38:37):
Something like that, or they don't have no caretaking. But
this lady, listen, but this is the worst part, the worst.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
Worst part.

Speaker 9 (38:43):
The lady was in there so long she melted to
the couch like that how long she was in.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
There, she was melted to the couch.

Speaker 9 (38:52):
Like come on, man, like what's really going on?

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Right like we needed.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
Wi't even know the lady name. We're trying to get.
This lady name was an older lady too.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well, did the corner ever get the body because you
say she could she could have been murdered. How do
you know if she's been there so long, she could
have been murdered. So they need to find the cause.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Listen, I'm giving you the law. Just google it and
know how.

Speaker 9 (39:17):
Someone has to say that it looks like it was
a suspicious depth in order for their corner to intervene
if it looks like natural causes, and they said nothing.

Speaker 8 (39:27):
They don't have to intervene.

Speaker 9 (39:28):
If somebody dies in your same friends to anybody down
your in your house and its natural causes, they don't
have to come pick the body up.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
They wait, They wait till the uh. They normally will
station a cop there until the funeral home comes to
pick the body up. That's how it's normally done.

Speaker 9 (39:47):
And I wish you was done like that, man, But unfortunately,
this lady was in there so long and this was
and then they had to bust the windows out. You
could go down there right now and smell the death.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
I don't I don't think I want.

Speaker 9 (39:59):
To go dow so long a right, But yeah, I
just want you to investigate that for me and trying
to find out this lady's name, man, because she deserves
some type.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
But you know what I mean, who is the landlord?
Don't the landlord know who was renting.

Speaker 8 (40:14):
From the landlord?

Speaker 9 (40:15):
The person who owned an apartment is the owner of
the Miami Dolphins.

Speaker 10 (40:19):
But they don't have no.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
Apartment.

Speaker 9 (40:23):
Have somebody else deal with They have press conference dealing
with them apartments yesterday all that and management didn't come
to the press, Thomas. It was just the residence and whatnot,
dealing with the conditions and everything going on down there.
But they didn't recognize this lady that they stopped. Come on, Lincoln,
she been in there since made how you melt to

(40:43):
the couch like you do, really dissolve into the couch man,
Like that's crazy?

Speaker 2 (40:50):
All right?

Speaker 9 (40:51):
But anyt even, I got one more thing I want
to talk to, say, real queen, Yes you know what
ladies look lady? See, I'm sorry, what's your name?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Oh a loud voice, Joyce, Yes, what about it? Yeah?
I mean, do I know what she looks like? Who
does she look like? Who does she look like?

Speaker 9 (41:12):
I don't know what she looked like.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oh, you've never seen her before?

Speaker 9 (41:14):
My name, even though she be saying it, then they're like,
you know what I mean, being mad about it.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 9 (41:20):
It's a little sex appeal to it. Man, I just
want to say this. What's her name? Loud mouth? Joy, Yes,
loud voice, Holland you feel me? Maxon, let me see
how you work in topics.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
I don't think you her type, Sean. I don't think
you're her type.

Speaker 10 (41:41):
I know, but I need a sugar mama man.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Run her credit up.

Speaker 9 (41:47):
But no, I think lady.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I think Lady C is more of your type. Sean.

Speaker 9 (41:51):
Come on, man, I don't know. I don't need I
don't need no type of text, you know, exact, but
I need some benis checking. You know what I'm saying,
you me, I need them?

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Yeah, right, all right, thanks for your call, Sean. Unbelievable.
The way Geyce calls his name is kind of sexy,
kind of turns him on. Unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, we've
got guests coming up. Lady see let me go to
Lady Seaport one minute or two, Lady call me back, okay,

(42:25):
because I almost at you a date for war and treaty,
and I'll tell you about that when you call me back.
All right, Okay, let's take a break for news.

Speaker 11 (42:36):
From war to treaty to ward and meeting, no bread,
no water, just meet.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Let's take a break. Twelve thirty the buzz ur Entreaty,
which will be here this coming Saturday at Music Hall,
but later on in the month. It's the Voice of
Whitney Houston and Felicia Canny is in here. Tell us
about that event that's coming up with Music Hall on
what's the dates?

Speaker 12 (43:02):
Oh, that's right.

Speaker 13 (43:03):
We're very excited for the Voice of Whitney Saturday, September
twentieth at seven thirty pm and then Sunday at September
twenty first at two pm. Two opportunities for everyone, man,
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
And this is gonna be Whitney's original voice, and I
guess they're gonna take the music out and let the
Symphony Orchestra put the music in.

Speaker 12 (43:25):
Oh yeah, it's going to be a spectacular show.

Speaker 13 (43:28):
The Voice of Whitney will be filling the entire hall
and it's also going to include never before seeing video
footage performances, interviews, and original and remastered recordings of some
of her biggest hits.

Speaker 12 (43:42):
And her biggest hits are big.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Oh yeah, tell me about I mean, this could last
two hours. Now, you're gonna have a It's gonna be
on Friday night and Saturday afternoon.

Speaker 13 (43:52):
Oh, Saturday night, Sunday afternoon. Okay, so madinae okay?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
All right? And where can people get tickets?

Speaker 13 (43:59):
Oh, they can go the Cincinnati Pops dot org. But
we do have a special deal for listeners. Oh yeah,
it's because you're such a good friend the organization. If
people call into our box office at five one, three
three eight one thirty three hundred, we're gonna give a
pair of free tickets to the Voice of Whitney on
Sunday to the first ten callers.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Oh boy, what's that number again?

Speaker 12 (44:23):
Five one three three eight one thirty three hundred, All.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Right, three eight one thirty three hundred five eight, Well
say it.

Speaker 13 (44:32):
Again, five one three three eight one thirty three hundred,
all right.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Five one three three eight one thirty three hundred, first
ten callers to call it box office the tickets to
see Whitney on the Saturday afternoon or Sunday.

Speaker 12 (44:47):
Afternoon Maturday after Sunday afternoon mad day.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Yeah, keep me straight here. So that's great, that's great.
So folks, you better call, you better call right now
to get those tickets. They'll be gone by the time
they can answer the phone ten times a guarantee, they'll
be calling you saying, okay, the tickets are gone. Yes, yes,
But I mean this is traveling around the country. This
is traveling around with Whitney Houston the.

Speaker 13 (45:08):
Yeah, this is a newer production that's going around the country.
We're so excited to bring it to Cincinnati because it's just,
you know, it's what can't be better than that. The orchestra,
the Cincinnati Pops, the voice of Whitney, all of these
behind the scenes footages.

Speaker 12 (45:21):
It's a really fantastic event to be yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Man, I tell you. And she always had a great
orchestra behind her anyway on her song, So this is
going to be great. And what time does it.

Speaker 12 (45:34):
Start on Saturday.

Speaker 13 (45:36):
It's going to be at seven thirty pm Sunday at
two pm on September twentieth and twenty first, So get
your tickets now because really, this month is going to
fly by.

Speaker 12 (45:46):
Oh yeah, and that weekend is going to be here
before you know it.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
And if you want good seats, you better get them.
You better get them. Now, tell me this, how can
people buy tickets if they don't win them today, how
can they buy them?

Speaker 12 (45:57):
It's the same two locations.

Speaker 13 (45:58):
It's our website, Cincinnati Org and then box office is
five one three three eight one thirty three hundred.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
All right, sounds good. You were on the show this
past weekend on the TV show and you did a
great job there you. Nas is coming.

Speaker 13 (46:14):
Oh yes, Nas is going to be here November twelfth
and thirteenth, and it's you know, another fantastic genre bending
type performance with Nas and his entire album Elematic will
be on with the Cincinnati Pops backing.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
All right, sounds good to me. Sounds good. I'm telling
you there's a lot going on at the Pops and
this music hall. It's going to be a great winter.
Seems like it really will.

Speaker 13 (46:39):
The orchestra's making great strides and you know, doing these
like cutting edge performances with fantastic artists we're just happy
to bring in to Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yes, yes, man, I tell you. But I love Whitney
and she had some great, great hits out there. I
know some great hits and we'll be able to see video.
Tell us about the video behind the scenes of Whitney.

Speaker 13 (46:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is you know, behind the scenes,
never before seen footage, interviews.

Speaker 12 (47:05):
We'll get video clips.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (47:08):
And it's gonna tie be all tied together with beautiful
storytelling and music. And that music is just gonna hit
you in the seats like you're gonna feel her voice
and the orchestra just like go through your body, one
of those like super visceral experiences, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
And the acoustics there music all. You can't ask for
any bitter acoustics than in music Hostle. It will be great, folks,
get your tickets now, and uh, don't wait if you
want great seats. I'm not sure when I'm gonna be there.
I think Saturday I'll be there.

Speaker 12 (47:37):
I'll be there. Brother Knights Lincoln, you should just you
just show up both nights. I'll be there, all right.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
We will look forward to you. And uh uh no,
not somebody on Facebook live say little nas x No
not the little nas x nas will be there, I
tell you, unbelievable. And what's the phone number box office?
If people want to order tickets by phone.

Speaker 12 (47:59):
Yeah, it's five three, three eight, one thirty three hundred.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
All right, Nell, say, well the free tickets are gone,
but you can buy tickets.

Speaker 13 (48:06):
Oh yeah, we have great tickets starting at twenty seven
dollars for whitney, so you know there are price points
for everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Yeah, definitely. Okay, Well, thank you for stopping by. We
appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (48:15):
Thank you, Lincoln. Always good to see you.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Yes, it's good to see you. All right, let's take
a break and then we'll come back. The Lincoln Wear
Show twelve thirty the Buzz you can wear with you
and in the studio with me Allison Russo, and she
just launched her campaign for Secretary of State and that
election will be held next year. And I tell you,

(48:37):
with this being a Republican state, you got your work
cut out for you, Allison. And I'm sure you know that.

Speaker 14 (48:43):
Yeah, yeah, well, certainly, you know things have not been
made easy for Democratic candidates, but you know, we work hard.
I'm already out getting across the state, and I've been
traveling across the state for the last several years. That
was the most immediate power house Democratic leader, and so
that allowed me to get out everywhere, but it's going

(49:04):
to be a lot of work. I mean, listen, but
twenty twenty six has a lot of opportunities as well.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yes, and as Secretary of State that you have pretty
much handled the voting rules and regulations and laws like that.
Anything you would like to change as far as voting, yeah,
because the Republican Secretary of States seemed like they try
to make it so difficult for people to vote. What
would you like to change that's going on now?

Speaker 14 (49:29):
Yeah, Well, obviously voting is the most important thing that
the secretary of State's office. It also handles some business
services as well. But you know, what we've seen over
the last decade specifically, is more and more efforts to
try to limit access to everyday voters. And you know,

(49:50):
so there's a lot to be done there, more and
more restrictions in terms of what it takes to register
to vote, the paperwork necess to register to vote, what
it takes once you arrive to cast your vote. You know,
the list could go on and on. I mean, some
of this is about restoring credibility back to the Secretary

(50:12):
of State's office, but also making sure that that office
is pro voter. And so how do we make sure
that information is transparent, it is accessible. You know, we're
being proactive to register voters. The state has two million eligible, eligible,

(50:33):
but unregistered.

Speaker 15 (50:34):
Voters here in the billion.

Speaker 14 (50:36):
Two million, twenty four percent of our eligible voting population
is unregistered.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Oh man, I know that is shocking number. It's sad
to hear that. How do you motivate those people to
get registered to vote?

Speaker 14 (50:50):
I mean two million, two million, so lots of work
I think to be done. There are lots of improvement
to be done there. You know, we've seen the Secretary
of State spent a lot of effort really focused on
what he calls voter fraud, and we're talking about a
handful of cases out of close to eight million registered voters.

(51:14):
But it seems to ignore the two million unregistered voters.
And even amongst those that are registered, we have seven
hundred thousand registered voters who have not participated in the
last three federal election cycles.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Said it is most of them are Democrats or Republicans.

Speaker 15 (51:32):
What do you think, Well, you know, it's hard to say.

Speaker 14 (51:35):
You know, I think you know, we know in terms
of those voters who are not showing up, potential registered
voters who are not showing up not surprising, very focused
in some of our largest urban areas. And you know,
I think it's a combination of factors. I think it's
you know, feeling like the vote, their vote doesn't count,

(51:56):
it doesn't matter, fresh straighted that you know, candidates don't
inspire them, candidates are not talking about the issues that
they care about. I think there are a variety of reasons,
but you know, we need to be very proactive in
engaging those voters because at the end of the day,
our democracy, our government doesn't work if all of our

(52:19):
people don't participate.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Now, Donald Trump wants to end mail in voting, you
know he's going to try. I mean, what do you
think about that.

Speaker 14 (52:27):
Well, listen, mail in absentee voting is extremely popular here
in the state of Ohio.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
We are Republicans, that's right.

Speaker 14 (52:36):
Actually, more Republicans use mail in voting than Democrats do
or independence.

Speaker 15 (52:41):
It's very popular.

Speaker 14 (52:42):
People find it convenient, it is secure, It has worked
really well here in the state of Ohio. So I
am opposed to any effort to limit that because people
like it and it you know, there's nothing quite like
getting your ballot at home, being able to sit there
explore and look up the candidates. You're not in a

(53:05):
rush to look up the issues. You can get more
information and you know they I think it. People make
better choices actually when they have a little bit more time.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Yeah. Yeah, And what do you think about the purging
of voters? Yeah, a lot of people think they're registered
to vote. They voted, you know, years so ago, and
they go to vote and they find out they've been purged. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (53:27):
So, you know, I talked about those seven hundred thousand
voters who are registered but they have not participated in
the last three federal election cycles. So right now here
in the state of Ohio, we have a Secretary of
State and actually didn't start with the current secretary of state.

Speaker 15 (53:44):
It started even before that with John Houstead.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah. Oh, he was a.

Speaker 15 (53:48):
Secretary of State.

Speaker 14 (53:49):
And you know, there are many reasons that you need
to maintain the voter files. People die, people move out
of state. But what we have here in Ohio is
a purging of voters because they have not voted in
the last two presidential election cycles. So just because you
haven't didn't show up to vote, you weren't inspired, maybe
had things going on in your life.

Speaker 15 (54:11):
You weren't paying attention. You can be purged from the
voter roles.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
Now, what if you vote in the midterms but not
the presidential election, is that still count as too.

Speaker 14 (54:19):
It's still yes, that would still count because you've participated.
But the problem is the only notification that these voters
get is, you know, a postcard notice in the mail
from the Secretary of State. You know, people move, it
can be transient. You may not be in the same
location that you were. So often, as you point it out,
people don't know this until they show up on election

(54:43):
day and they find out they're no longer registered. And
at that point you're locked out from being registered. Because
now in Ohio we have some of the most the
strictest registration requirements. You have to register thirty days before
an election or sooner and or you cannot vote. And
so and we know from these voter purges in the past,

(55:07):
when voter advocates have looked at this list that there
are mistakes on the list. Also, people are listed on
there who should not be listed on there, and so
that is also hugely problematic.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
And the NAACP, they are on a big quest to
get people read. They've got a mobile van they drive
around and register people on site there. You know, so
they're doing everything they can to get more people back
on the voter rules.

Speaker 15 (55:32):
And you know that's right, but we need more.

Speaker 14 (55:34):
I mean, you know, the very fact that we have
again two million eligible voting age not registered, there is
a lot of work to be done. So it's going
to require multiple groups, but it also is going to
require secudary state who is very proactively engaged in this
registration voter registration effort. You know, we can't let some

(55:56):
of our surrounding states, for example, Michigan to the north
of you know, beat us on this. We've got some
of the lowest voter registration rates in certainly in our area.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
I mean, just think if those two million people were Democrats,
they could turn the state around. Well, I mean, you
could turn the state around.

Speaker 6 (56:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (56:18):
When we look at the last couple of you know,
major statewide races over the you know, twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty two, you know, the difference was about two hundred,
two hundred and fifty thousand voters. So even if you're
simply just re engaging those registered voters at seven hundred
thousand who have not participated in the last three federal

(56:41):
election cycles. You know, even that can make a huge difference.
In addition to registering people who should be registered to vote.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
We're talking to Alison Russo, a former state minority leader. Yeah,
and now Donnie Isaacson, is that's right, Yeah, state minority
leader guy. Yeah, yeah, okay, So, and you're running for
secretary of State next year. So folks remember that name,
Alison Russo. So, so you would try to get more

(57:11):
people registered. You make it easy forget to what about
the registering with your driver's license.

Speaker 14 (57:20):
So you know, that goes back to as we've looked,
especially over the last five years, really since the twenty
twenty election, and we you know, have Donald Trump at
the very top, you know, saying the election was rigged
and the results aren't right because he didn't agree with
the outcome of it. Never mind he won in twenty
sixteen and went again in twenty twenty four. You know,

(57:41):
we've seen across many states, including Ohio, more restricted access
to the ballot box. And one of the changes that
happened here in Ohio is requiring voter ID, but being
very specific about what that voter ID is, and in
the case of Ohio driver's license state issued ID, eliminating
some of the other ways that we proved ID previously.

Speaker 15 (58:05):
If you didn't have identification.

Speaker 14 (58:07):
You know, it sounds really simple for a lot of people,
you know, just go get your driver's license, but the requirements,
the paperwork requirements to get your driver's license can be
extremely difficult.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
I see now with the U of what do they
call it, the new ID.

Speaker 15 (58:21):
That's right, with the new ID system.

Speaker 14 (58:23):
So for example, you know, you've got to have a
copy of your birth certificate.

Speaker 15 (58:27):
You know, sounds easy, but if you're someone.

Speaker 14 (58:28):
Who's much older or you've moved from another state, those
birth certificates can be really difficult to get access to.
If you are a married woman and change your essay,
I russo is my married name, not only do you
have to have your birth certificate, but you also need
to have your marriage license to show you know that

(58:50):
you've changed your name. And so you know, those paperwork
requirements to add up, and we find a lot of
people who actually do have trouble getting that state issued ID.
And that's not to mention the time it takes to
go down take care of that, taking time off from
your workday, et cetera. And then sometimes people don't know
that they need that requirement until they again, they show

(59:12):
up on election day, they don't have you know, they
may have a student ID or some other maybe county
issued ID, but they don't have that driver's license or
state issued ID. And then it's you know, they have
to cast a provisional ballot, maybe too late, the doesn't count.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
Man, I tell you, it's going to be quite a ques.
But like you said, we can get more people registered.
It makes it easy for Democrats in this state. That's right,
if more people will register to vote.

Speaker 14 (59:41):
Yeah, but you know, it's not even just about Democrats winning.
I mean, the thing that we know is that the
more people who participate in our elections and actually choose
who their government is and who represents them and their
issues and their communities, we know the better that government
works and it responds to the needs of our communities

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and to the people. And so you know, more than
one party or the other winning, it's how do we
make you know, the state of Ohio, our state government,
our federal government more responsive to our needs.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Man, I tell you, And that's going to be quite
a job, quite a job. So what made you want
to run for Secretary of State.

Speaker 14 (01:00:24):
Yeah, yeah, great question. So I have been in the
state legislature. I was elected in twenty eighteen, actually flipped
a district from Republican to Democrat that year another midterm,
Trump's first midterm, and I've been in the legislature. I
was elected as the House Minority Leader, served in that

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role for three and a half years, and during that time,
I actually served on the Redistricting Commission during the what
I can only describe as the debacle of Ohio's redistricting
saga that went on for several months, several round and
you know, to me a couple of things, and I
served on committees where a lot of these election bills,

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what I.

Speaker 15 (01:01:07):
Call anti voter election bills, happened.

Speaker 14 (01:01:10):
And it's recognizing the critical importance of the role of
Secretary of State in how our elections are administered, but
also in how voters' voices are uplifted or not. You know,
we saw the example of the previous ballot issues citizen

(01:01:32):
initiatives for example, redistricting and reproductive rights before that, and
we saw the Secretary of State use the power of
that office to manipulate ballot language so that when voters
went in to cast their ballot. It's confused, right, and
that should not be the role of the secretary of State.
It should matter who is the secretary of state. It

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shouldn't matter if you are voting for the same party
or not, or for an issue that the secretary of
State agrees with or doesn't. Voters should have confidence that
when they go into the ballot box, their voice will
be heard and respected.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And you know what kills me when they put these ballots,
put these initiatives on the ballot, and people vote for them,
and then they the Republicans, try to change it all up. Yeah,
change what the people voted for.

Speaker 15 (01:02:19):
Yeah, yeah, we see that.

Speaker 14 (01:02:20):
In fact, with adult use cannabis or marijuana, you know,
that was another citizen led initiative. Citizens voted overwhelming whelmingly
to pass that. And then now we see efforts by
the legislature to try to change that and they say
things like, and we've heard this many times, Well, the

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voters didn't really understand what they were voting for.

Speaker 15 (01:02:44):
That is so disrespectful to the voters.

Speaker 14 (01:02:47):
You know, most voters they do know what they want
when they go into the ballot box. But they should
trust that the information before them is unbiased, inaccurate, and
they should have confidence that when they vote for those changes.
Direct democracy is a very powerful tool that we have
here in Ohio. But when they vote for those changes,

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that they're elected leaders will respect that decision.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Wow, I tell you unbelievable. You got your work cut
out for you. But hey, we can get some of
those two million people registered you're in.

Speaker 12 (01:03:20):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Allison Russo running for Secretary of State. And remember that
name Allison Russo, folks when you go out to vote
next year for I guess it'll be the midterms next year.

Speaker 15 (01:03:33):
That's right, the midterms. Yeah, yeah, lots going on.

Speaker 14 (01:03:35):
We've got all of our statewide offices will be up
and on the ballot, as well as the US Senate race.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
Yes, Jeron Brown is right. Brown is coming back. Yes, yes,
So we'll see what happens with that one man. All Right, Well,
thank you Allison for stopping back. We'll appreciate you.

Speaker 12 (01:03:52):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
I'm sure we'll talk to you and see you again
before the midterms next year.

Speaker 15 (01:03:57):
I hope so, I hope so looking forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Now you from a northern Ohio where you're from.

Speaker 14 (01:04:01):
So I'm in Columbus. I should have said that. Yeah,
I represented district.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Of Okay, Columbus here. All right, Well, well, good meeting
you for the first time, and we'll have you back again.
All right, awesome, thank you for stopping by. All right,
let's take a break. Twelve thirty the buzz link, and
we're with you till one o'clock this afternoon. And man,
two million qualified voters out there, unregistered two million. How

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many of those are Jehovah's witnesses. I don't know. I
don't know if we could get those Jehovah's witnesses to vote,
and the Hebrew Israelites, I'm sure they don't vote either.
If we could get them to vote, we may be
able to do something. But yeah, appreciate Alison Russo coming

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down from Columbus to sit in with us. And she'll
be running for Secretary of State next month, I mean
next year, next year for the midterms. And she's out

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there getting an early jump, early jump, lady c How
are you?

Speaker 5 (01:05:19):
I am wonderful, How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
I'm doing great? Doing great?

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I got a four things. If I got to make
him plain, I want to say these names first, meggat
ever little Rock nine Earth's a kid and Lamont from
Fred and Spher and something. All right, okay, Lincoln, first thing,
you know, you see what you setting me up with, Bill,
You setting me up with Sean. You're giving me my

(01:05:43):
own thing song, picking up my own things song? Can
I sing a note of that? The way I put
these words in it? Yeah, I said, want it older man,
single in free experience, in life and love. But I
will accept the young a. I'm gonna put it in
a one ed. I need a new man who's gonna

(01:06:07):
put it in a one as. I need a brand
new boot. I want to see war entreaty help his
sister access really really needed. So that's my little.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
That's pretty good. That's no bread.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
No, let me say the next thing. But County Pillage, Hey,
this was a white woman following the law. When the
white man, Donald Trump President breaks all the laws and
common sense make good laws, County Pillage, the man should

(01:06:44):
just leave let him go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, just drop the charges.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
Well, the law, the law and Donald Trump don't care
nothing about the law. Yeah, and this man a third time.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I think if it all would go away, if she
just dropped the charges. They don't want the wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
What common sense?

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Common sense?

Speaker 5 (01:07:05):
What does that say?

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
And it's not on her because she wasn't in office
when when he was tried or anything like that, so
you know, it's I don't know, none of that is.

Speaker 5 (01:07:17):
Gonna fall back on her. But she could say, listen,
I have fifty million other things to do. This man
has served his time. There was some stuff in the game.
It wasn't on above board, and I'm not gonna waste
my time, you know, going back and trying to make
sense of this when it don't. So I am going

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to let the man live the rest of his life,
get his social security and move on, and let me
move on to the other things I gotta do. Yes,
But they that's what it just bothered me when she said, well,
I gotta follow the law, Well can you follow common
sense too? But you know, that's that's what she said,

(01:07:59):
so that all I had to say. I just wanted
to put out my little warned song.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I did find a guy that had tickets to war
and treaty and uh, he says he's afraid to take
you out because if things don't go right, he's afraid
you'll come back and talk about him.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
I won't say, what.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Do you mean?

Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
Right, We're going to see what could go wrong.

Speaker 10 (01:08:22):
We just.

Speaker 5 (01:08:24):
I don't know. I don't get I'm not gonna say
anything if that's what he asks. He says, don't comment
on our day. Or I would really like a man
to say, hey, you the bomb, please comment on it.

Speaker 9 (01:08:36):
I'm glad.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
I mean, I'm hoping that he would have to say
that about me. But I wouldn't want to go out
with a man that wouldn't want to say that about me.
I mean, you don't, man, we would have so much fun,
but hey, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
He might not be my ad and a want of
that as he's a preacher's kid. He's a preacher's kid too.

Speaker 5 (01:09:01):
I just don't if that hurt him the worst one.
But you know, I don't know. But you know, I
just say, hey, we could talk about it. If you
laugh about it, we could.

Speaker 9 (01:09:12):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:13):
It's just not something that I'm gonna get on here
and talk about. He had on two left shoes and
he didn't have on the right tie, and all he
eat with you know, food coming out of his mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
Come on, dude, leave your number with UH with Terrence Howard.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
And then it's Saturday almost I know you know something.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
That's what I was gonna call him after the show,
and then I'll call you and let you know what
he says.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
Oh is he older?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
No, he's not older. I would say he's probably Oh, man,
I guess he's about probably sixty in the sixties.

Speaker 5 (01:09:49):
Just shell brother. You're gonna have a good time, baby,
say yes, you will waste.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Out, don't. All right, ladies, I got a joke you
want to hear real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Okay, what do you call bears with no teeth?

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
You call him gummy bears?

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Okay, all right, all right, ladies, see, thanks for your call. Unbelievable.
She hung up before she left no number. She left
the number, So maybe I don't think. I don't know
what kind of date that would be. Anyway, Let's go
to the Dukester find out what's cooking. Maybe if he
brings us some lunch from the Dukester, she'll really be

(01:10:32):
ready to go out.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
At the top of the morning, Lincoln and having Senior
Citizen day bus. Listen, it is Wednesday, September third, and
it's a gorgeous looking day so far. Now listen love, folks,
I want you to know that I just received my
bath and tickets. So the fifteenth annual Black and White
Cancers we five with Galen, That's happening this year on Saturday,
November the first, at the Sharonville Convention Center from six

(01:10:55):
pm to eleven pm with music by DJ Vader and
performances by I Can Win vand and Lincoln. I hear
you gonna be hosting along with my good friend Pamela Champion. Yes, yes, yes,
well it's always gonna be a great event. So folks,
make your plans to stop by the Dukester and get
your tickets to the Black and White canc Servivors Galas
today Now Lincoln on the Dukester's menu today is the

(01:11:17):
best baby beef flivving onions in town with gravy rice
and green beans. Or stop in for a big Smother's
pork chop with collar greens and candied yams. We're also
featuring our honey barbecue are flaming hot chicken wings with
big beans and potato salad. But my pick for the day, Lincoln,
is our grilled or deep fried cap Is filats with

(01:11:38):
macaroni and cheese and smothered cabbage and hot buttered corn bread.
Have a last today, everybody. We'll talk at you, Lady Lincoln.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
All right, that's the Dukester right there in the Summit
Plaza on Reading Road. All right, Tina beans Benson says
she was there on Sunday at the Dukester. Yes, well
that's Sunday Soul Buffet. I think you like that Buffay
Terrence hourd You got to go over there one Sunday.

Speaker 11 (01:12:04):
Yeah, one day I'm gonna leave my dark, dusty old
cave and go out into the public, into the sunlight.
Mister ware, I need to put out a call for
Sister Bridge. Sister Bridge, give me a call, and Pharaoh
give me a call.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Oh boy, yes, oh boy, somebody wants to get in
touch with them. I take it, yes me, okay, all right,
let's move along. Let's go to Uh. Actually, we need
to give away a pair of tickets to to see
the Preservation Hall the Preservation Hall Band a Creold Christmas

(01:12:44):
at TAF Theater or December eleventh. Yes, we're giving those
tickets away early. Yeah. The Preservation Hall Jazz Band a
Creole Christmas. That's at the TAF Theater December eleventh. If
you want to go beat callar number four, calling number
four right now at five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

(01:13:07):
twelve thirty. If you call it four, the tickets are yours.
You're calling number one. I'm looking for number four. You
calling number two. I'm looking for calling number four. Sorry
about your luck. You're calling number three. You're so close,
so close. I'm looking for number four. Sorry, you're calling

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number four. What's your name?

Speaker 3 (01:13:32):
Up?

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
They're gone? They hung up. Sometimes that line okay, all right,
we'll take the next call that comes in. You're calling
number four. Are you there? Hello?

Speaker 11 (01:13:43):
Sometimes the line gets messed up. That's he's gonna do
that until it clears itself out. So wait for the
other one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
There we go. You're calling number four. What's your name? Hello?
What is it?

Speaker 10 (01:13:58):
Dave Smiley?

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Dave's Smiley? Well, congratulations, Dave Smiley. You won yourself a
pair of tickets to see the Preservation Hall Jazz band
A cree Old Christmas. It's gonna happen at the Tap
Theater on December eleventh. Are you in a relation to
Ricky Smiley? Did you win tickets recently? It seemed like
I said that before to somebody named smiley. Well, what

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part of town you call it? From? College Hill? All right?
What station just made you a winner?

Speaker 10 (01:14:28):
Twelve?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
All right? Hold on, sounds like he's at work. Sounds
like he's at work. And make sure he didn't win before. Well,
the computer would tell you if he did anyway.

Speaker 11 (01:14:40):
Well, I normally ask anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yes, yes, yes, sir. All right, let's move along. Let's
go to uh David, who was a first time caller. David.
Sorry it took me so long to get to you, David.
But how you doing?

Speaker 8 (01:14:56):
I'm doing well? How you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
All right? Normally don't take this long to get the
old but we've been busy today. What's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (01:15:04):
You mentioned honor flight earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
Yes, yes, and I'm in Vietnam vet uh huh.

Speaker 8 (01:15:10):
And I went on the honor flight last year. Oh okay,
and there was only two blacks on the honer flights.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
That's what I'm saying. We're trying to get more blacks
to get on these honor flights. Liz Keating was on
maybe a couple of years ago, trying to get more
blacks to sign up to go on these honor flights.
You say only two was on there with you?

Speaker 8 (01:15:33):
Yes, just two of us. But I would like to
say that if you go, I don't want to ruin
the trip for you, but if you go, it is
a marvelous trip.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Yes, all right, I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:46):
I was given a sponsor. Okay, and he and I
we still stay in contact. Okay, you'll really enjoy the trip.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Did they say they wouldn't let you take your wife
or your girlfriend as a sponsor.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
I know they didn't really say anything about that, but
I was just assuming that if if your if your
wife or your girlfriend or whomever went with you, I
don't know, it just would be awkward.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But they gave you a sponsor.

Speaker 8 (01:16:24):
Yes, it was a really wonderful person. When you get there,
it becomes emotional because like if you went to the
Vietnam War, I mean, well I would you know, I'm
the Vietnam veteran. Yes, yes, you remember some of the
guys that you were with and did you see their names?

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And you know, it becomes emotional. Yeah, you know, overall
it's a wonderful trip.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
All right, Well it sounds good. I'm looking forward to it.
We go next month, October, end of October.

Speaker 8 (01:17:02):
Yeah, I mean it's it's something that you remember. I
believe it, all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Right, all right, all right, yeah, like you said, it's
only two black veterans on there with you, that's Blenda's
a whole lot more out there we got to get
a hold of to get them signed up to go.

Speaker 8 (01:17:18):
Yeah. I mean, I've even mentioning it. Are the veterans
that I know, uh huh, they're like, I just don't
want to go.

Speaker 2 (01:17:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't know what they're missing. They
don't know what they're missing.

Speaker 8 (01:17:33):
It's a wonderful trip.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
All right, Hey, David, I appreciate your call. Call me
back after I get back from the trip and we'll
talk about it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:42):
Okay, I'll do that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Okay, all right, that's a David, first time caller, and
he went on the honor flight. Yes, and so there
you go. There you go. I spent I spent a
couple I got a cup of coffee in the Nang
when I was in the Marine Corps, I had a

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cup of coffee in the Nang. That's just how long
I was there, Okay, for long enough for a cup
of coffee and to talk to the people at the
radio station in the Nang right at the top of
Monkey Hill. You had to walk up. The radio station
was on a big hill with an antenna, and you

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had to walk up the hill to go to the station.
And I was looking. I was like, am I going
to be attacked by the vig Kong as I walk
up this hill by myself? But no, I made it
back safely. And that's my Vietnam memories. Okay, yeah, all right,
let's move along. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty.

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Let's take a break and then we'll come back. Twelve
thirty the buzz Shop at one Jay Wright. How you doing, Lincoln?

Speaker 10 (01:19:00):
Where my man a hundred grand? Let me get you
off the speaker really.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
Quickly, Lincoln. Uh, I want to tell you man your disclaimer. Yes,
that means you're growing, brother, you are growing.

Speaker 2 (01:19:13):
And mean somebody messed up somewhere in the company.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
I don't know what it means, Lincoln, man my mentor, Man,
you're growing. I love the disclaimer, Lincoln. I want to
ask you man, And I actually been meaning to call
you and ask you about this a question time now, Lincoln,
why and and shit?

Speaker 10 (01:19:31):
And I even wanted to.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
Ask here your you're prosecuting earlier why did y'all continue
to use the word brawl.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I don't know why they It wasn't a riot, So
some people say it was a riot, and there wasn't
a riot. It was more of a a brawl, a fight,
I don't know what you call it. It wasn't early
a bra because there wasn't enough people on both sides
to be a brawl, you know what I mean. Normally,
if it was a brawl, it would have been like

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ten ten against ten, something like that, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:20:03):
To me, So, Lincoln, I think y'all doing a disservice
to the to that fight like calling it the brawl.
I think the prosecutors, I think everybody that continue to
use that term brawl is doing a disservice and putting
a spotlight on Cincinnati.

Speaker 10 (01:20:17):
That they rightfully don't deserve.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Lincoln, you know, a fight.

Speaker 10 (01:20:21):
In America is as normal as a mass shooting, right
So people fight all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Mass shooting is happening all the time.

Speaker 10 (01:20:27):
There's no one mass shooting that's worse than the other,
you know, So please, I beg y'all stop using that
term brawl.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
That's the narrative that they created. Lincoln, I happened to
be in Louisiana at the time. Man, you remember the
Genus six.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Yeah, I went down there. Okay, well, when I was
at w C I N I went down to I
forgot the name of the little town in Louisiana.

Speaker 10 (01:20:52):
That it was in Alexander.

Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
I did my show from down there. The only thing
they had in that town was a walmart.

Speaker 10 (01:21:01):
Lincoln a very very small town right outside.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Of Alexanda, Louisiana, about twenty five minutes outside of Alexander. Well, Alexander,
Louisiana's where we had to leave for Polk to go
to the mall at and it was about an hour away.

Speaker 10 (01:21:12):
So a lot of the people from that little.

Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Town would come to the mall and we beat them
and hang out in their little town. But Lincoln, I
think now we are now at the park. We are
now at the point where we should now be saying
that sincey seventh, No, because that's that same unjust that
you came to Louisiana four and I was stationed there.
I was there when Michael Basing and Al Sharpton and.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah, Tom Joyner. Tom Joyner even in this show down there. Yes,
actually he sent Sybil Wilkes and somebody else down there,
but I ran into him when I was there. But yeah,
I did my show from right there. Uh man, that
didn't take That brings back some memories back in the nineties,
the late nineties. I think it was the Genus six.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Absolutely. I was at Poor Poke at the time and Lincoln.
The whole issue around to Jena sixth and the senty
seven is exact similarity over prosecution, right, yes, because they
beat up they beat up a white guy and Lincoln.
That has got to become the highlight of where where
we are as far as the you know, the voice

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behind this issue. We got to stop calling in the brawl,
stop using a narrative, and then we got to start
calling it the senty seventh because those guys are being
over prosecuted, just like the Genes six.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Well, what do we call it the fight? What? What
do you want to call it?

Speaker 4 (01:22:28):
Just call it a regular fight at three o'clock in
the morning, drunk people drunk haven badly. How about that?

Speaker 10 (01:22:34):
That's all That's all it really balled down to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:37):
And so I kind of hate the Joe using the narrative,
and I wanted to ask the prosecutor.

Speaker 10 (01:22:41):
That she think that using that term has been a.

Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Negative spotlight to Cincinnati and link.

Speaker 10 (01:22:48):
Let me ask you another question too, man, Yes, you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Believe that the mayor when AFTAP went to visit that
white lady because the white man was killed because he
left his door open, he left his door onsecured and
the mental patient went in there and killed them. Do
you think the attention that your mayor gave to that
white woman at.

Speaker 10 (01:23:07):
That time only the half this incident.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
Happened a couple weeks later. Really, if it was up
to him, you think he was had not.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Now, I don't think the two have no relation at all.
No one has nothing to do with the other.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
Well, do you think y'all became a lot unsafer city
after the two No? No, no, it's good. Well, at
least according to what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
Well that's what they say. They try to make you
think it's unsafe here in Cincinnati. But uh, I believe me,
this is one of the safest downtown Cincinnatis in the country.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Listen, I know, man, I spent a lot of years there,
and I spent a lot of years downtown, so I
know it is safe. I'll tell anybody that. Let me
say a little my Cincinnati Mom, Kathy Alexander and Julia
Pittson Sharon where and I want to Lincoln, you have
got to lay these ladies see alone. You are bat I.

Speaker 10 (01:24:04):
Don't even know what your record is with her.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
They see is Uh she's one of the most talked
about callers when I go out somewhere. Uh, that's you know,
you judge how people who they talk about that comes
on the show. And if they talk about this person
a lot, you know they like them. You know what
I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:24:24):
Yeah, she'll she'll go down to your call of the
year like the White Line will go down as the
dummy of the year. Lincoln, be good man, take care
of that.

Speaker 10 (01:24:31):
Always get talking.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Thanks for your call. That's Jay Wright. Some people call
him Jay Wrong. All right, let's go to uh actually
we need to go to the news. Then we'll come back.
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