The Lincoln Ware Rewind: September 4, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
I'm still on a speeding bullet.

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Or power.

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We're gonna lookomotive.

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Hey, we'll believe Paul buildings at a single down look
in the sky.

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It's a bird Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln for Bingus, Nana Bana,
BEng Gun baby homing gun Lincoln. They say this cat
Lincoln is a bad mother. We're just talking about Lincoln.
Good morning, good morning, good morning. Happy Thursday, twelve thirty

(00:48):
The Buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station. It's the Lincoln
Ware Show. Terrence Howard filling in for Lincoln Ware. It's Thursday.
I'm glad to be here and we have a lot
to talk about today. I mean a lot to talk about.
Of course, I'll be here till noon today. The last

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hour will be a rebroadcast, and coming up at eleven,
I've got a special guest for the whole hour from
eleven to noon. You'll be calling in. Also, if you
called in yesterday, you can call in today and tomorrow.
So at least for these two days you have Ozzy

(01:33):
and Mississippi James privileges. So also we've got prizes to
give away to Chad, so we got to catch up
on those. We'll probably give away about two of them,
and then you can leave the rest to me and
Lincoln tomorrow. I don't know what is going on with
Lincoln and these prizes. I made sure to print out

(01:55):
all the giveaways that we have, all the liners, but
we never get to them. But we're gonna get to
a couple of them today and then the rest tomorrow.
And I'm gonna kick off with some with some local
news and some national stories. But I want to hear

(02:15):
your thoughts on the conversation that Lincoln had with our
Hamilton County prosecutor County Pillage yesterday. And I also want
to hear your thoughts on the Cincinnati Police FOP President
Ken Kober. Are you happy with the answers that you

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heard yesterday? Are you happy with the conversation or maybe not?
Five to one three seven four nine one two three zero.
I'll tell you one thing. If I were to slap
a white woman the way that Russian guy slapped the

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black guy downtown, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be brushed off.
I'm pretty sure I would have been in handcuffs very quickly.
I'm pretty sure I would have been charged with something serious.

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And I really hate the way that the right wing
media and the Cincinnati police are downplaying the slap. If
I were to slap a white woman the way that
Russian guy slapped that black guy, I wouldn't get protection
from the police, not the police, not the folks that's

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supposed to be charging you for assault. But this guy,
he's getting protection. They have his back, and they never
mentioned the fact that this Russian guy he used the
N word to provoke the fight. He did it on
purpose in my opinion, but I could be wrong, but

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I like to hear what you have to say. Five
one to three, seven, one two three zero. We got
a lot of folks from Facebook live in the house.
I'm shocked. I'm shocked. I like to say, good morning.
We got king Lyon checking in, we got Brenda Early,

(04:27):
lg Is checking in, we got Ross checking in. We
got a lot of folks checking in today. Did you
hear about the the semi that jack knife down on
seventy five down there by Eza Charles this morning? Well

(04:47):
that was a mess. Of course, it was a plenty
of rain out there. They had to work to clear
it out while it was raining. I heard they put
cat litter down to help soak up some of the water,
but they eventually cleared it up. I think it happened
about three this morning, so, but there was some traffic

(05:09):
problems all morning this morning, so I had to take
an alternate route to get to work just to make
sure I got here on time so I could prepare. But,
like I said, a couple of things I want to
get into. If you were listening yesterday, you know that
Lincoln talked to our Hamilton County prosecutor, County Pillage and

(05:31):
the Cincinnati FLP President, King Kober, and I want to
hear your thoughts on the conversation yesterday where the answers
they gave satisfactory? Did you take issues with the conversation?
Are you Are you good with what you heard yesterday
with County Pillage in King Kober five one three seven

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four nine one two three zero. Of course, there are
some some some horrible local news. A man was shot
in Winton Hills overnight and at first he was reported
that he was in critical condition, but then he ended

(06:15):
up passing, so that's according to the police. They said
reports of a shooting came in just after nine thirty
pm along Craft Street. According to the Cincinnati Police Department,
and the police said a thirty one year old SHAYL.
Peoples was located outside of a car with multiple gunshot

(06:42):
wounds to his chest. He was later taken to UC
Medical Center with life threatening energies life threatening injuries, where
he eventually died. The police said they have a description
of a possible suspect, but as of right now, no
one is currently in custody. So that's a very very

(07:07):
sad situation out in Winton Terrace out there. But I
do have some good news, some good local news. It
was reported from a WCPO Channel nine. Lincoln Heights council
member was reinstated after court rules removal illegal. A Lincoln

(07:27):
Heights Village council member has been reinstated to this position
after judge ruled his removal from office was improper and
violated the village charter. Dronce Daniels, who has served on
the council since twenty seventeen, was removed from his seat
in October twenty four. Village solicitor deepok Deci, I'm pretty

(07:53):
sure I'm butchering that name. Depoc Deci cited daniels unpaid
taxes as ground for the removal, notifying him only through
a letter. Daniels maintained his taxes were paid in full
and challenged the decision in court and Lincoln Heights and

(08:23):
of course uh the Russ Daniels he has who has
served on the council since twenty seventeen. He was removed
from his seat, but it's been restored so he On Wednesday,
a judge sided with the Rantz and restated him and

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reinstated him to the council. And the court found that
the village charter required five members concurring to pass a
resolution vacating Daniel's seat, which did not occur, and but
he's back on council. Durrance said he is now focused
on moving the historically black neighborhood forward and addressed stalled

(09:11):
infrastructure projects. He says, we have to deal with the
things that are left on the table, the wi FI grant,
the Memorial Field grant and getting those things done. And
he said he wants to make sure a strong there's
a strong pipeline for recreation in Lincoln Heights and Wi
FI to engage and communicate with them. A shout out

(09:35):
to Durrance, he used to work here years ago. I
don't know if you remember Durrance Chad, But yeah, he
was an intern here. He worked two years ago. He's
a solid dude, man, He's always been a solid dude.
So I'm happy for him that he got his seat restored.
So a shout out to Durrance. If he wants to
call in, he can five one three seven, four nine

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one two three zero, So shout out to him. Man,
this is a crazy story here, and I this is
this is this is a A ninety three year old
man has been arrested for the stabbing death of his

(10:18):
wife in Illinois. Ninety three year old man Pequin police
said James E. Pate was arrested and booked into the
Tazewell Tazewell County Jail according to his According to Okay
record show, his age is ninety three years old. Officers

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were called Tuesday to the eighteen hundred block of South
fourteenth Street and reported a stabbing emergency. Emergency responders found
the female victim at the scene and gave her medical
attention and transported her to a hospital, where she died.
Peoria Counter County Corner Jamie Harwood identified the victim on

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Wednesday as eighty eight year old Sheryl Pate, which is
the man's wife, and autopsy on a woman's shows she
suffered multiple sharp blunt force injuries that were not survivable.
According to court filings, officers found James Pate on the
scene with a significant amount of blood on him, and

(11:25):
he suddenly admitted. He allegedly admitted to officers that he
had cut his wife's throat. Excuse me, James Pace. James
Pate faced additional questioning where he explained that he and
his wife were planning on filing for divorce. He said

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he had a lot of pent up anger and he
couldn't take it anymore. This is crazy. Ninety three years
old and your wife is eighty eight and you're playing
for divorce and you stabber at ninety That is unbelievable,

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as Lincoln would say, unbelievable. James Pate claimed he and
Cheryl Pate got into an argument in a vehicle, and
according to the court records, Cheryl Pate responded reportedly launed
toward him as if to scratch his face, but James
Pate reportedly pushed her away and hit her before pulling

(12:35):
a knife out of the center console. He then cut
her throat. According to the affidavit of probable cause. The
Tazewell County State's Attorney Office file the petition to deny
pre trial release. Illinois State Police assisted in processing the

(12:56):
crime scene at the requests from peaking law enforcement man.
How angry do you have to be to want to stab?
At ninety something years old? You know a lot of
folks at that age they're thinking about what's gonna happen
when they die? Am I gonna be good enough to
go in there heaven? This guy said, I'm not. I

(13:18):
can't take this anymore. I'm crazy. Story that that upset
me this morning. Uh So, Hamilton County is closing probation
substations and the community issues, I mean, the community leaders
are upset. The Hamilton County COmON Police Court judges and

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magistrates are scheduled to meet through to meet Thursday to
vote on probation. Oh, I'm running late for I'm gonna
fish of up like and go to break. Okay. The
Hamilton County Common Police Court judges and magistrates are scheduled
to meet Thursday to vote on probation substations. In the
City of Cincinnati, community leaders and residents say they have

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been told all four substations will shut down as part
of the county's new way to supervise violent criminals to
prevent them from re offending. On Wednesday, the court's administration
and presiding Judge Wendy Cross called the hastily arranged hastily

(14:29):
arranged arranged meeting for twelve to fifteen pm on Thursday.
According to an email she sent the rest of the judges,
there are a few things I need to discuss with
all of you before September eighteenth. The monthly meeting reads,

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so basically, folks are concerned about these substations being shut
down in their communities. Maybe you're in one of those
communities that it affects, if you'd like to comment five
one three seven for nine one two three zero. We're
up on a break, and uh, let's take that break.

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Terrice Howard in for lincoln Ware on the lincoln Ware
Show on twelve thirty the Buzz Lincoln War on the
lincoln Ware Show, and I want to hear your thoughts
on the conversation that Lincoln Ware had yesterday with the
Hamilton County Prosecutor Connie Pillage and also the Cincinnati Police

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FOP President Ken Kober. Five one three seven four nine
one two three zero In of course, you can add
your opinion to any of the stories that I talked about.
But right now, before I get to your calls, we
gotta go downtown to the crime stop at headquarters and
speak with Detective Green. Detective Green, good morning, and who

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were looking for today?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Good morning, Paris. Nicky Harris. Nicky Hare is wanted by
the Ohio Adult Parole Authority where a felony parole violation.
Mister Harris was originally charged with robbery. Nicky Harris is
a male black thirty eight years old. He's five ten
and one hundred and ninety pounds. Nicky Harris has a
history of SETH and was last known to live on

(16:17):
Shady Miss Lane in Mount Airy. The Newport Police Department
is looking for Justin Aeger. Mister Aeger is wanted for
felony tampering with physical evidence in trafficking in marijuana. Justin
Aeger is a male white twenty one years old. He's
five ten and two hundred and eight pounds. Justin Aeger

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has a history of drugs and weapon charges and was
last known to live in Newport, Kentucky. Listeners, if anyone
has information on where police can find Mickey Harris or
Justin Aeger. Please call crime Stoppers at five one, three
thirty five to two thirty forty four, submitted tips online
at crime desk Stoppers dot Us.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
All right, forty night or day cash money for your
clues and uh, you'll get to talk to Lincoln wear tomorrow.
Take care, I see it. All right, that's Detective Tiffany Green.
I can take a call before a break. Let's get
to Brent. He's been holding on the longest. Brent.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Good morning, Hey, good morning, brother Terrence. How are you
doing today?

Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'm freezing, as you can see.

Speaker 5 (17:26):
With that t move cat and that hat hat.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Yeah, but today I'm actually in Sierra's Neck of the
woods in Boston.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Oh really Yeah, just.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Dropped off our son continuing on with his ice hockey,
so he'll be in the Cape Tide area for the
next ten months or so.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
So oh wow.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
You know, Bray for the best of him. One to
have fun, but he wants to turn this into college
and potentially beyond that. So hey, I told him you
here for one reason. Yes, that's to do well and
take your teammate spots.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
So yes, sir, keep them focused, Keep them focused.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Yeah, And yesterday I was popping in and out and everything,
so I didn't hear much about the story. So I'm
gonna do a Rick Junior and go to a different topic.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
There was a bigger story that didn't get any publicity.

Speaker 5 (18:20):
At all during the music festival. Apparently Ron Doula got
jumped on Fountain Square during the festival. What and the
way he told the story, He was trying to I guess,
mediate between a white girl and some black dudes, and uh,

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you know how Ryan can talk greasy to folks and everything.
So what wound up happening the way he told it?
They wound up jumping him and beating them down. They
close the white girl. What So if I got any
details wrong, I'm sure Ryan can call in and muddy
the way or even more. But yeah, yeah, he said

(19:03):
he had his blaming on him, you know, his poll
or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, but didn't
do anything and had a cane. And if if you've
had all these surgeys and everything, the last thing you
want to do is talk greasy to a bunch of
kids who can whoop your ass.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh see our brook says, welcome to Massachusetts. I guess
she's in Massachusetts.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
I guess, yeah, yeah, she's in Boston. She's fellow blurred.
Oh okay, engineer, so yeah, but yeah, so yeah, but
headed back. It's been nice here. I like seventy five
degree chimps and lows in the fifty's a lot better
than ninety plus and then a hundreds. But yeah, but

(19:44):
that's all I got. I'm here at the reports. I
don't want to bug Fither people too much, but you
have a good one. And I wish Chad would have
had another doctor's deployment so link you could be punching
the air.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
But I appreciate the call man. Have a safety back home,
by the way, thank you, all right, I take care.
All right, it was Brent checking in. Brent is funny, man,
I tell you. Yeah, Chad, Chad, Yeah, it's been. It's
been a couple of times where Lincoln wanted me to

(20:16):
the host. But you know, listen, things happen. You know,
we don't have the staff we used to have. Okay,
So it is what it is. If Chad has doctor's
appointment or whatever he's got it, it is what it is.
So but I appreciate Brent checking in. It's close to
a break. I'm get to al right after the break
if you want to comments so far on what I've

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talked about, and I have a whole lot more to
talk about, a whole lot more. The next story I'm
going to talk about and Ohio man wins thirty two
thousand dollars at a blackjack table, but child support debt
claims most of his winnings. I got to tell you
about that. On the other side, I'm tearing Soward in
for Lincoln where on the Lincoln Wear Show on twelve

(21:02):
thirty the buzz They have noticed.

Speaker 6 (21:05):
Your produce has gotten a bit more expensive. Shoppers are
now starting to see higher prices on fruits and veggies,
do in part to tariffs on imported products. Scripts Newsgroup
reporter Holly Furfer explains what this means for our economy.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
Recent government data showed an uptick in the wholesale price
of vegetables. The price supermarkets pay for fresh veggies rows
almost thirty nine percent in July. The trickle down effect
of tariffs are a contributing factor and putting pressure on
consumers and their wallets. Attention grocery shoppers the price of

(21:39):
eating healthy is getting more expensive. The effects of tariffs
on imported fruits and vegetables are starting to ripple through
grocery stores and restaurants and are driving up costs for consumers.

Speaker 8 (21:50):
Yeah, I think things are definitely on the airplime for sure.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
President Trump has defended the move, arguing raising tariffs will
help boost domestic production and create jobs, but economist Alex
Durante with the Tax Foundation says the US simply does
not have the right climate or infrastructure to grow enough
fruits and vegetables needed to meet demand, which is why
so much of what we eat is imported.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
In the US.

Speaker 9 (22:17):
We only grow bananas in Hawaii and Flora, and in
a very limited capacity. I'm more than ninety percent of
all bananas that are consumed in the US are imported
from abroad.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
US reliance on imported farm products is rising. Produce imports
topped thirty three billion dollars last year, with avocados, bananas,
and blueberries making up twenty seven percent. The good news
is that many foods from Mexico and Canada are exempt
from tariffs through the US Mexico Canada Agreement, but Durante

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says that only represents about half of the produce that
enters the country.

Speaker 9 (22:56):
Even with the USMC USMCA exemptions, are sold a lot
of agricultural goods. They are coming from Southeast Asia and
Central and Latin America and South America that are going
to be facing these tariffs.

Speaker 7 (23:08):
It's unclear how much produce prices may increase, but estimates
range from four to seven percent.

Speaker 9 (23:15):
US consumers really don't have much of a choice other
than to pay the higher price for that important good.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
It will be up to consumers to decide how much
they're willing to spend.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Prices are just skyrocketing, just getting out a hand out
of control.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
But it's a little bag right here at ten dollars.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
Analysts say that fluctuation in imported produce is common. Other
factors include weather conditions, supply chain delays, and limitations to
US production. They may also lead to higher costs. Holly
for for Script's Newsgroup Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Twelve thirty The Buzz of Cincinnati your Talk Station, Sarrence
Howard in for lincoln Ware on the lincoln Ware Show.
Shout out to the Script's News network for that audio. Yeah,
Trump's tariffs are causing high vegetable prices. And this time
it's all the blame goes on him because these are

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his policies. At first, his first time around, he kind
of had folks around him who were experienced lawmen, experienced
government folks who had positions in government and leadership, and
they kind of had guard rails up. But now he's
his folks in his administration. They're all just uh, handpicked

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Trump supporters. Nothing else matters but doing whatever he says.
And this is one of his big policies, and it's failing.
It's failing. So if you'd like to comment on that
five p One three seven, four nine one two three
zero Before break, I was talking about it. Guy who

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had one in Ohio. Man wins thirty two thousand dollars
at a blackjack table, but child support depth claims most
of his winnings. A late night game at a blackjack
table turned into a life changing moment when a man
hit a rare progressive jackpot worth thirty two thousand dollars,

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but the celebration ended quickly when the government stepped in,
seizing most of the money to settle more than twenty
three thousand, twenty three thousand in unpaid child support. The
story first surfaced on a TikTok video shared by a
casino table games dealer. Her name is Tiff, who explained

(25:44):
that the man have been playing for hours, repeatedly pulling
out one last one hundred dollar bill to stay in
the game. Eventually, his persistence paid off with an extremely
rare hand. Both he and the dealer drew suited blackjacks.
I've never played black jack, so I have no idea

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what's going on here, but that rare combination triggered the
Progressive Jackpot, instantly paying the player thirty two thousand dollars,
But according to Tiff, the excitement didn't last. Later, supervisors
revealed that the man had an outstanding thirty two twenty
three thousand dollars child support debt, which meant the majority

(26:27):
of his winnings were intercepted before he even got to
enjoy them. I didn't know they checked you at the casino.
If you win money at the casino, your name comes
up as owing child support. That's unbelievable. To use Lincoln
Ware's word, that's this crazy. I mean, you don't even

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get the cast to check. Before you even get it,
they tell you, oh, guess what you owe some money,
so it says that the how child support collection works.
Legal experts confirm that the government has multiple tools to
ensure overdue child support payments are collected. The most common

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is wage withholding, where employers are ordered to deduct support
payments directly from a from a parent's paycheck in cases
of unpaid or overdue support. Other measures can include wage garnishment,
allowing up to sixty percent of wages to be taken,
tax refund interception, where state or federal ref refinds are

(27:37):
redirected to pay off child support, property lanes placed on
homes or land, asset seizure including bank accounts, vehicles, or winnings.
Like in this case, the system ensures that custodial parents
receive the court ordered financial support even when the other
parent tries to avoid payment. The viral video has drawn

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one hundred of thousands of views and a wide range
of reactions. Some commentaris were quick to support the government's move,
with one noting he paid twenty three thousand in child
support in one day. Be proud of him. Others were
critical of the situation, pointing out that someone with such
a large debt shouldn't be spending time gambling at a

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casino in the first place, and the lady who took
the video, who talked about the story and Tiff, admitted
that she felt conflicted, saying that she was frustrated both
by his presence at the table and by the fact
that he walked away with nearly nine thousand dollars even
after his debt was paid. So this is a very

(28:52):
unusual story. But listen, he I think he's a winner.
He got lucky. He won all of his money, He
paid down his child support, so I don't see anything
wrong with that, and he still had some cash left over.

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So but another thing is I think you gotta pay
taxes on top of that too, So he may walk
away with less than nine thousand, but seems like a
win to me. So he just got real lucky. Let's see,
we are close on the break. I'm gonna try to
get to one call before break. Al has been holding

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on the longest. Al, Good morning, how you doing.

Speaker 11 (29:41):
I'm going to respect parent. Thanks for taking my call. Yes, sir, yeah,
that's unfortunate. As far as the last story that you
just just mentioned, it's unfortunate. It's a good in the band.
But as far as the prosecutor and the FOP interview
yesterday with Lincoln, it was obvious to me that they

(30:06):
were they were telling half truth and they weren't. They
weren't being honest and truthful.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
The FOP.

Speaker 10 (30:16):
Guy, his energy wasn't the same on our station.

Speaker 11 (30:22):
As the other station.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
That's what I heard.

Speaker 11 (30:26):
I mean, So, I mean, right there, it tells you
that there's two different agendas. Yes, I mean, I don't
know why they do that, Like we don't listen down
to down, and don't nobody listen down to down listen
to what they're talking about. But I mean, just like
they listened to you know, what we're talking about. But
it's unfortunate because we're gonna have a whole bunch of

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we're gonna have the black community getting screwed again because
there's two there's two different laws.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
For the city.

Speaker 11 (30:55):
Just like you mentioned, if you or I went up
to a white woman a smack, yeah, we'd be in jail, yes, sir,
and we would have you know, probably a high bond too,
regardless whether or not she did anything to us provoked
the situation. Everything will lie on us, and it's our

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responsibility to turn the other cheek walk the other way.
Why didn't you just called nine one one? Why didn't
you do us that? That's our responsibility as we're getting
beaten down and provoked.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Yes, so, I mean.

Speaker 11 (31:29):
That's that's what I expected. I expected them to say
exactly what they said. I expected them to do exactly
what they did. Yeah, but I don't expect us to
take it. Yeah, now to say, you know, what do
we do and what what.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Don't we do?

Speaker 11 (31:46):
We we really got to break away from a system
that doesn't benefit us, you know what I mean? We
get on every year, we have these stories, we have
these shootings, we have these situations, and still bow down
to the same system that we don't like. Now, I'm
not saying that I'm exempt. I'm just saying collectively, we

(32:09):
gotta do it. We gotta do it collectively. Like every
other nationality they look out for themselves. Collectively, we gotta
do the same thing and not be apologetic about it.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yes, sir, I totally agree.

Speaker 11 (32:22):
But I appreciate you know the time, I know you're
up against a break so you know, just we you know,
a fortunate thing is we got to stay positive amongst ourselves,
you know, and what that looks like is we gotta
be dealing with ourselves. You know, we got to support ourselves,

(32:43):
you know, I mean, if we don't do that, we
can't complain. We keep running back to the other folks,
you know, for their opinions and for their guidance, then yes,
we're gonna be on the short end. They don't have
our best interest at mine, I mean at mine. Somebody
calls any black person the N word is gonna provoke

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something in Yes, and especially if you got an accent,
yes sir, yes, sir, and knowing the history of I
don't want to say certain people. But you know, if
you if you're gonna call me that unprovoked, I mean,
it's no telling what you do. Yes, it's no telling

(33:24):
what you will do if you think you if you
think you're gonna come around a group of black people
and say I'll take all of you on, and then
you know your your dreams get unfulfilled.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
And now you want to.

Speaker 11 (33:38):
Cry nah, Yes, you know, I mean, what what are
we supposed to do in that situation?

Speaker 10 (33:46):
Walk away, turn the other cheek, you know, go ahead and.

Speaker 11 (33:48):
Hit me again. I mean, it's it's ridiculous. It's it's
ridiculous that we're even sitting here talking about it because
the prosecutor, she says, she doesn't even have just to
you know, really give a say Soul City. But then
the FOP guy says, oh, yes she does. You know,
we we've been in contact with the prosecutor's office and

(34:11):
and Lonnie down. So when the situation happened in Woodlaw,
I mean, and even there with the KKK neil Nazis,
she didn't have any say so for that either. She
just passed the buck. It's somebody else. It's oh, it's
somebody else. Somebody else got to handle that. Somebody else
got to do that. We don't handle that in my office. See,
my hot office is so big. You know there's another

(34:33):
group that does that. They didn't only become them my desk. Yeah,
that sounds like that's not But now if that's not
a lie, I mean, you know, they'll sell us anything. Yes, sir,
Why did you even get into the position if nothing
comes across your desk and you don't have to say
so to nothing?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yes, sir, al I appreciate the call I got. I'm
running lay for breaking my brother, but I agree with it.
I agree with what I agree. I agree with what
you're saying. Man, you really hit a lot of points home.
So I appreciate you.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
Appreciate your time, my brother, take take care.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Now, all right, there was al checking in. We're up
on the break and coming up at eleven. I got
a special guest that's gonna be on for an hour.
So I'm going to try to run through the calls
and get everything set up for my guests coming up

(35:25):
at eleven. If they decide to call in, they something
may have changed. But I'm hoping that they call in
at eleven. But until we come back from break, I'm
tearing soured in for lincoln Ware. On The Lincoln Ware
Show on twelve thirty The Buzz.

Speaker 12 (35:42):
Several of us Epstein survivors have been discussing creating our
own list of names.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Yes, we know the names.

Speaker 11 (35:58):
Many of us were abused by them.

Speaker 13 (36:00):
Jeffrey Epstein. Sexual abuse survivors and their family members shared
their stories in Washington, d C.

Speaker 9 (36:06):
Now.

Speaker 13 (36:06):
This comes as the House voted two twelve to two
oz Wit to approve a measure directing the House Oversight
Committee to continue its ongoing investigation into the Epstein case.
Let's bring in CBS News Congressional correspondent Kaitlin Huey Burns
joining us live now from Capitol Hill. Kaitlin, thank you
for being with us. What do we know about this
latest push by Congress to get more transparency when it

(36:27):
comes to the Epstein case.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Well, this is.

Speaker 12 (36:30):
Something that leadership up here on Capitol Hill had hoped
would die down on the Republican side during the recess,
and it really didn't. In fact, it intensified, and yesterday
a bipartisan push to gather signatures for a discharge petition
gain steam, which a discharge petition essentially you have to
get two hundred and eighteen signatures and then that would

(36:52):
force a vote on the House floor, and in this case,
to vote to release all of the Epstein files. Now,
what happened yesterday was the Oversight Committee released thirty three
thousand pages of documents related to that case. They had
subpoena the Justice Department for those documents, they got them
and released them last night. Not a ton was new

(37:15):
there and were still combing through them. But from the
perspective of House Republican leadership, they would like that to
be the avenue where this goes, and they're hoping that
that will quell the calls from some members of the
base for more of these documents to be released. So
by this vote today, they essentially agreed that the House

(37:38):
Oversight Committee will continue this investigation. And this is meant
to deter any Republicans from signing on to that discharge petition.
And the White House has also gotten involved contacting members
who may have signed that or may have been inclined
to sign that petition to say doing so would be
essentially a slap in the face to the White House

(38:00):
and Donald Trump, and that the appropriate avenue, in their view,
is to go through the Oversight Committee.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
Here.

Speaker 12 (38:06):
That is what the message is coming in, as you
just saw it passed on the House floor.

Speaker 13 (38:11):
Now, Caitlin, you mentioned there wasn't really anything new in
this thirty four thousand page document, So what.

Speaker 14 (38:16):
Was in it?

Speaker 12 (38:17):
That's right, and we're still kind of combing through this,
but a lot of this was already seen in previous
dumps of information. The bottom line here is that the
Oversight Committee would like to keep going with this and
they are ready to subpoena for more documents, so that

(38:40):
will be the place to look for for additional information
coming out. But the Oversight committee, of course, is chaired
by Republicans. Democrats are arguing that it will kind of
be mired in politics and it won't be able to
gather all of the information, all of the documents out there,

(39:00):
and their argument is that the White House could be
in charge of releasing those. So still a lot of
partisan politics being played here. And I should note also
that Democrats have really seized a political opening, you know. Notably,
they didn't call for this before Trump was in office.
This is something that kind of festered on the right,

(39:22):
but Democrats have certainly seized this opportunity and are looking
for any sort of political advantage and are trying to
see it through this one.

Speaker 13 (39:31):
Kayld Huary Burns, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
All right, that's CBS News audio. So the House votes
two twelve to two o eight to approve an Epstein
probe measure. So there's some movement on this Epstein investigation
and to get more information out, they're getting the victims
together and they're going to hear all of their stories

(39:55):
and they're going to get this information about who Epstein
dealt with all of the the hidden celebrities or whoever
he dealt with in this crazy sex abuse scandal. Those
names are gonna finally come out to the public once

(40:15):
these victims get interviewed by the House. So there's some
movement on the Epstein files. We're up on a break.
Let's see White Line, Rick Junior run Doulah. Probably not
gonna be able to get to your call today because
I'm gonna have my guests coming on at eleven, all right,

(40:37):
so you can probably call in tomorrow. But I do
appreciate you calling in though. But yeah, I had already
scheduled a guest to come in from eleven I mean, yeah,
from eleven to twelve noon, and we're gonna talk to that.
Guests coming up after the break. Terrence Howard in for
Lincoln Where on the Lincoln Ware Show on twelve thirty

(41:00):
the Buzz And guess what, I'm gonna give you a
chance to win tickets to see the Preservation Hall Jazz
Band a Creole Christmas at taff Theater on December eleventh.
And I'm gonna give you that chance right now before
I go to my guests. I'm looking for caller number

(41:22):
five seven, four, nine, one two three zero caller number
five to win tickets to see the Preservation Hall jazz
band A Creole Christmas at taff Theater, December eleventh, caller
number five, and you'll be my winner. At caller number five.

(41:45):
The phone lines are starting to fill up. I'm gonna
let a couple more call in. There's another one I'm
gonna let. Okay, So now the phone line is are full.
Let's see here. Hi, you're calling number one, Try again? Okay,
all right, the buzz. You're calling number two? Try again? Okay, alrighty,

(42:15):
the buzz you're calling number three? Oh man, try again. Okay. Now,
I don't know if this line works, but we'll see
the buzz. Your caller number four. You're so close, try again? Okay, alrighty,

(42:35):
guess what twenty thirty the buzz?

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Hello, Yes, Yes, this is Mississippi James, Mississippi James.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Yes, sir, are you calling to win a prize? Are
you calling to talk?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I'm all about the prize?

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Okay, I didn't know. Well, congratulations Mississippi James. You've got
tickets to see the press Reservation Hall Jazz band A
Creole Christmas is happening at the tap Theater December eleventh.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Okay, December December.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Yes, sir, December. I mean, can you make it December eleventh?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
If not, I passed it on to a friend.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
All right, well listen, uh, congratulations. Chad is gonna get
some information from you. Now, have you worn from us
within the last thirty days?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
No, sir?

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Alright, well, Chad's gonna put you well, I'm gonna put
you on hold, and then Chad's gonna get to you
to get some information from you. All right, good, all right,
all right, that's Mississippi James. He's a winner today. Man,
the guy he's he's got it made. He gets to
call in every day no matter what. He gets to
call in consistently because he donated some blood, him and

(43:45):
Aussie and he's a winner of tickets. How about that,
Mississippi James. All right, let's go to my guest and
talk to the pharaoh.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Good morning, Good morning, Terrence, and how you doing.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
I'm doing great and as always as good to hear
from you. Listen to floor, is yours?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Man?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
What would you like to talk about today?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Well? Really, you know, I'm open. You know I could
talk about a variety of subjects. Melanin, religion, relationships, Europeans, slavery.

(44:31):
I'm open.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I'll let you I'll let you take the lead.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah. So anyone who wants to talk to me about whatever,
I'm open uh for discussion. But one thing I will say, uh,
in terms of religion, what I heard last week.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I heard.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Sister Dorothy Muhammad call in and spoke to Lincoln, you know,
speaking about A B and C and the honorable this
and the honorable that. She mentioned Elijah Muhammad, And I
wondered about what did she mean when she said the

(45:21):
honorable Elijah Muhammad. You know, if a person looks up
the word honorable, the word honorable means one who is
worthy of praise. And I'm saying to myself when I

(45:41):
think about the six babies that he fathered by his secretaries,
I didn't pay any child support. What's honorable about that?
They talk about what he did for black people. Some
Allah told him.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
To do A B and C for his people.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
If you know the history of Islam, and if you
know the history of Elijah Mohammad as well as the
history of Marcus Mosiah Garby, what did Elijah Mohammad do

(46:33):
that Marcus Garby didn't do prior to him. Elijah Mohammad's
parents were Garbyites. They followed Marcus Garvey's teaching. So what
did this mister Mohammad do. Yes, he's come up with

(46:55):
a newspaper, you know from what Malcolm had done. Marcus
Garvey had a newspaper. He came up with putting his
people in uniforms. Didn't Marcus Garvey put his people in uniforms. Yes,

(47:17):
he come up with this whole idea about back to
Africa and dealing with black businesses. Did not Marcus Garvey
have that same concept prior? Yeah? What I'm saying, what
did he do that was honorable? Well as the religion itself?

(47:41):
All of us here in Americas, African people here, Yes,
all of us have saved last names. Yes, okay, based
upon our prior generations being slaves to Europeans in his country,
we took on master's last name. Yes, But prior to

(48:05):
Europeans enslaving us, the Arabs enslaved us. The Arabs taught
to Europeans how to enslave us. Yes, So I'm gonna
change my name from Michael Burke's Burke's being a slave name.
I'm gonna change my name to Michael Muhammad. So all

(48:27):
I did is exchanged my last name from one slave
owner a European to an Arab slave owner Mohammad. Yes,
so I mean, if you're gonna change your name, identify
all together with your people, come up with an African name.
Mohammad is not African. The name Mohammad is not African. Yes,

(48:53):
that's an Arabic name. See yes. But we as African people,
we want to be everything except who we are. We
don't want to be an African. We want to be
identified as this or that, but not as an African.
If you know the history of what those Erabs did

(49:15):
to African people when they invaded around six forty of
the Christian era, you wouldn't want to have nothing to
do with their gutter religion. I remember I wrote an
article about Islam and black people back in ninety five.

(49:38):
Someone fire bombed the Cincinnati Herald over that article, the
news and everything. I don't know if you remember that. Wow,
they showed the article I had written on the news
and somebody had fire bombed the Cincinnati Herald over that

(49:59):
article me talking about what Islam did in Africa. So
how does African people with these names Mohammad Shabbaz, how
do you identify with an enslaver who killed over twenty
million of your people in the process of spreading this

(50:22):
Islam throughout northern Africa. Yeah, if you look at countries
such as Egypt, Muritania, Mauritania, Morocco, Libya, you know, Algeria,
all of these African countries in the north of Ghana, Senegal.

(50:46):
These are African countries that described Islam because of what
the Arabs did. They killed over twenty million of our people. Wow,
I mean our children from ten to eighteen years old,
turning them into unichs Wow, you know what a unuch

(51:08):
he is, right, Yes, sir, you know a castrated young
boy between ten and eighteen years old, taking him back
to Arabia to be a Unich. So when the Arabian
master was leaving, going out of town for a week
or two. See, you were only there to watch my harem,

(51:30):
my concubines, women, my wife. See you keep them in line.
They're not doing something messing around on me. But you
were castrated Because how they want to think that while
I'm away, that you're having sex with my other women
in my concubine and my harem, or with my wife

(51:52):
at pretty see. Yes, now, how do you identify with
that as an African person. This is not my I
have no ill will against anybody. Now, I don't hate anybody,
but I am gonna tell the truth based upon on
the historical record. Yes, because we as African people, we

(52:15):
don't read, we don't study and research, we don't research. Yes,
called me myself, I call myself and a her H
E R A her? What is that that her identifies
the H? I am a historian professional by degree. I

(52:37):
am a historian, yes, the E I am an educator.
The R is research researcher.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
That's an acronym.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Okay, right, I am H E R her, I'm a historian,
I'm an educator, and I am a researcher. Okay, that
just one uncebject. In terms of black relationships, I can
talk about that about why we as asking people with
all whys and girlfriends, why we can't stay together.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
See, So anybody who wants to call and talk to
me about the subject about polinking me about our relationships
to the African men and women, I'm open. I can
discuss it with you or if you have a question
about it, I can talk to you about that. So

(53:32):
I'm open today.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
All right, Well, we have at least one caller that
wants to talk to you, but we're up on the break,
so we're gonna get to that after the break. Al
has a comment for you, and I don't know if
he's gonna agree with you or disagree with you. We'll
find out on the other side. So I'm gonna put
you on whole, Pharaoh, and we're gonna get to you
on the other side. All right, Yeah, all right, that's

(53:55):
the Pharaoh. We're gonna continue on the other side. I'm Terrence,
our end for Lincoln where on the Lincoln Ware Show.
We're gonna take a break, but we'll be back on
the other side on twelve thirty the Buzz and I
got a special guest, Pharaoh. He's talking about, uh, the history,
well some of the history of black Muslims, and he's

(54:19):
gonna get into some other things. Also, Alice is holding
on to talk to Pharaoh. But let me get Pharaoh
back on the air here. Pharaoh, Yes, you said you
are open to talking to someone. Al wants to comment
on something that maybe you said.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Yes, if I'm open to any topic.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
All right, Al, you're on the line with the Pharaoh.

Speaker 11 (54:44):
Respect, love and blessing. Thanks to take my call again, Terrence.
You're going to get respect to you.

Speaker 10 (54:50):
For having Cero in as a guest to talk about
this subject, well, his subject matter, which is very important
because it's what, it's everything that we're dealing with. I
really appreciate the brother and all the knowledge that he
comes with.

Speaker 11 (55:06):
And they're not opinions. I mean, it's like he says,
if you want to do the research and see that,
it's not an opinion, it's what's exactly happened, and this
is what's going down. But what I really I wanted
to talk to the pharaoh belt was he spoke of melanin,
and melanin is a special I don't want to call
it a thing, but we have a special thing as

(55:28):
far as having melanis and and if you could, you know,
speak on that a little bit.

Speaker 10 (55:35):
And how were as black people we're separated from all those.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
That meloden deficient and it's almost a superpower that we
don't know about. Are you familiar with doctor Let's see,
he's an elder. He's a professor at Yale University, doctor
kidds and his recent what is his name, doctor kid

(56:05):
from Yale University. We did a research on melani it's
not a published research. It's actually patented and you really
can't get a copy of it. But he did an interview.
I saw it on the internet.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
But you go ahead. I have I have done. I've
read the books of doctor Richard King. You know, his
book was entitled melanan a Key to Freedom and if

(56:42):
he wrote in nineteen ninety five, I've written. I mean,
I've read the works of doctor Carol Barnes. He wrote
a book entitled Melanin The Chemical Key to Black Greatness.
You know, so that I'm not familiar with the person.

Speaker 11 (57:03):
Yeah, well, if you could look up his research and
his work, I mean, it's it's very extensive. I mean,
it's to blew my mind on how deep you know,
just start melanin is, the melanin compound is, and how
we just take it for granted and just give it
away to just any race that's not even worthy of

(57:27):
of having it, and that you know, the capacity that
we do. But I just want to mention that to you,
and just want to mention another thing to you as
fine as Deuteronomy twenty eight, if you can read that
research as history, as what's happening to us today and
what's been happening to us, how we lost our way

(57:49):
basically as a people, just as.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
A whole people.

Speaker 11 (57:54):
I just want to introduce Juteronymy twenty eight, not as description,
not as the Bible, but just as a warning to
a people and not people.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Is up. I don't have a I don't have a Bible,
but if you can just tell me what does it say?
Uh say in Deuteronomy?

Speaker 3 (58:12):
This says a whole lot. But I appreciate the call, okay, respect. Yeah, yeah,
we can't go through the whole page. It's a lot
of things like sixty eight verses.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
But yes, but appreciate about just speaking about melanin. You know,
we as African people, we don't know how powerful melanin
is in our body. Whites because they don't have any
they have said that black melanon is a waste product

(58:45):
in African people. There's no purpose, it's a waste product.
But that melanan in you is what gives you your color.
Also that melananan provides altered dates of consciousness in African people.
For an example, in our religious ceremonies going to church,

(59:10):
people who are shouting in church, people who fall out
in church, who speak in tongues the creation of jazz music,
which is in African creation. All of these things that
we do is sparked by Meliman. That Meleiman is excited.

(59:37):
It is stirred up in your body. When we something
that Europeans say it's an American cultural thing. No, it's
not an American cultural thing. It's something that African people
that we created. High five, given each other, high five,

(59:59):
giving each other a lot. When you standing there, you
doing the moon walk in at a football game, a
guy who spiked the ball in moon walk himming the
ball down, you know we score a touchdown. Those are
all melanin created concepts that allows us to do these things. See,

(01:00:22):
which you think really is something the person does, No,
it is because of the melanin. It is what gives
us rhythm. See, we are in rhythm with the universe.
Because of that melanin. Everything works in a cycle. Even
a person who is drunk. Take a black man who

(01:00:42):
is drunk and he's walking down the street. That black
man who walks down the street, he can be drunker
than a scumb but he still is walking in rhythm.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Whereas you look at a white man who's drunk, he's
walking like a robot body. In his movement, he is robody.
I mean, oh head, just look at it. Look at
these things. He is robody in his movement. But that
African person, even though he's drunker than a skunk, he

(01:01:15):
is still walking in rhythm. See. If I was there
in the studio, I will show you how that black
man walks even being drunk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Well, we don't have any alcohol to give you to
do that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Then I would show you how a white man walk,
okay drunk, See, I mean that melanin, that's carbon in
our body. Scientists, geologists, they have drilled down to the
center of the Earth's core and they have found black carbon.

(01:01:54):
Everything comes out of blackness. But according to white it
was relevant. It is a waste sprout us. It serves
no purpose.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
But yet they're always laying in the sun trying to
get some color to that tape foot looking skin. Yeah,
I'm trying to get some color. They'll tell each other,
go on vacation. You went to Florida for two weeks.
Oh oh, Mary Bill, you have such a beautiful tan.

(01:02:29):
But how often do they compliment you? You have a
natural tan. You don't have to lay in no sun
they don't tell you, oh, you have such beautiful skin.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Well, you've met me, so I don't tan very well,
I said, you met me, so I don't tan very
well as you can see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Well, I know, yeah, I know, But I'm just saying.
We all have whites in our family, you know. But
still you are a melimated man, yes, sir, So therefore
that still a triplets to your When we sit and
listen to music, do you know that when we listen
to music as African people? Like I said, this is

(01:03:10):
not my opinion, this is research. When you sit and
listen to music, that music that is coming out of
that speaker, that sound, that is energy. Do you know
that melman in your body is absorbing that energy that's
coming out of that speaker and you use that energy

(01:03:34):
at a different times that your body that melonin has
absorbed that energy is coming out of that speaker listening
to music. It's doorgs it up? Yes, sir, that melment
is powerful. Yes, they don't tell you that how powerful
that melement is in your body, that blackness. We are

(01:03:56):
dominant over every color. I didn't say superior, I said
dominant genetically. Yes, we are dominant. See our traits show
up everywhere, no matter who we deal with, our traits
show up. Yes. Is it glorified, that's no, not in

(01:04:18):
Western society, you know, yes, fall back see. But if
you know and understand your history and your culture, your nature, huh,
your evolutionary process, you will know that you are the
greatest people on this planet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
All right. And with that, Pharaoh, I'm gonna put you
on hold. We're gonna take a break, all right, all
right now, Now, what did you want to discuss about
m uh dating and relationships?

Speaker 8 (01:04:48):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
A lot of times we can't stay together.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Okay, Well, I'll let you do that on the other side, okay, okay,
all right now, And we do have some callers on hold,
but I don't know if they want to talk to
Pharaoh or if they want to talk to me. You
can you check that out for me, Chad. But in
the meantime, we're gonna take a break. Terrence Howard in
for Lincoln where I got the Pharaoh. He's my special
guest today and we're gonna hear more from him about

(01:05:15):
dating and relationships on the other side of the break.
On the Lincoln Ware Show on twelve thirty, The Buzz,
The Lincoln Ware Show, and we're gonna get back to
my special guest, the Pharaoh. I asked if he can
call in and give us a history lesson today because
I knew that. You know, folks, they they don't like

(01:05:35):
when I fill in with for Lincoln where they don't
call in. So I say, you know, I'll fill the
time in one way or the other. And that's what happened.
But I really appreciate the Pharaoh checking in before we
get to the Pharaoh. Right now, since it's Thursday, it's
free side Thursday, we gotta check in and see what's

(01:05:58):
cooking at the Duke.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Hey, top of the morning, Terrence and happy free size
Thursday bus. Listen Terrence at four us forget. I'm gonna
remind everyone that they can catch all the action of
the Bengals football this Sunday during our all you can
eat sold food buffet was over eighteen items on the
menu and every Sunday starting at one o'clock. Now, for
you folks that think you can't do two things at once,

(01:06:23):
make sure you get there early and we'll show you
how it's done. Now, Folks, by chance, sometimes a day
you should get hungry and you need a great lunch
or dinner. Whether you want to dine in or carry out,
make sure you consider coming to the douce. On our
menu today is our golden salmon croquastes with macaroni and
cheese and green beans. Orse stop in for our grilled

(01:06:45):
turkey ribs with mashed potatoes and gravy and fried corn.
Or maybe you'll have a taste for a Saint Louis
Bobby Hugh ribs with big beans potato salad. But my
pick for the day, Terrence, is our tender meat load
with candy, mother cabage and corn bridge. I was blessed,
say everybody, we'll talk with you lady Terrence.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
All right, that's the Dukesters. Be sure to check him out.
He's in the summit plaza on Reading Road. And of
course we always appreciate the Dukester and the Dukester's cooking.
Let's get back to the Pharaoh and let me make
sure I do this right here. I'm here, all right.
So now we got a few people that's holding on

(01:07:27):
and they have questions for you, Pharaoh. Are you I
know I'd asked to go to a different subject, but
would you like to go to that subject? About relationships,
or take questions, or take questions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
You know, people want to ask me something.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
All right, let's go to Jack. Jack, good morning. You
got a question for the pharaoh.

Speaker 15 (01:07:46):
Hey, thank you for allowing me to express my opinion,
and thank you Pharaoh for engaging with us. According to
your your view, basing your intellectual premise of the black
man on his chromatic material, that somehow it absorbs intellectualism

(01:08:16):
no matter what you're doing, whether you're walking, dancing, playing sports,
or you're engaging in some intellectual activity. It's not the
brain activity. It's the color of the skin.

Speaker 11 (01:08:31):
Is that what your cremis?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
Melment allows you to respond. I can't hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
I'm sorry, Uh, Jack, listen to the ans off their Okay,
go go ahead, Pharaoh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
I was saying that meloman allows you to react in
some cases without report then to the brain. See what
I'm saying, See some things that you might do, Uh,
in a given situation. That melanine in your body is

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so powerful it allows you to react or respond to
whatever without reporting to the brain. It's just you're in
rhythm with the universe. Me is just that powerful?

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
Is that something that's been proven with science? Because I'm
just thinking that Jack will probably want to ask that question.
So is that something that's been proven with science or.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Okay, I'll tell you what uh if you want to
if if you want to look up stuff like that
about what I just said about uh about the melanin. Uh,
you can you can look at look read about this

(01:09:57):
about how that melanin bonds uh uh uh to your
body response in your body. You can read a book
by doctor Naiam Agbar, the Community of Self.

Speaker 11 (01:10:16):
You can read.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
A book called An Intimate Stranger by doctor Lillian Rubin.
You can read a book uh by a doctor Clyde
Franklin in the article this is an article in the
journal called White Racism as it calls a black male

(01:10:44):
female conflict. Okay, so you can read about these what I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Saying, Yes, sir, all right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
We got another caller who has a question for you,
and her name is Donna. Donna, you're on the Lincoln
War Show with Terrence Howard. You got a question for
the Pharaoh.

Speaker 14 (01:11:04):
I do Hello, how are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
I'm good, Pharaoh, Yes, chance.

Speaker 14 (01:11:13):
First, I want to thank you for bringing on the pharaoh.
I think it's long overdue, Pharaoh. I would like to
let you know that I appreciate everything that you have
been doing over the years for our community as far
as trying to educate us.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
But my question is, why do you think.

Speaker 14 (01:11:37):
That we don't like to look at science a lot
of times? Why we don't like to look at history,
and why we don't like to go with facts. Can
you explain that to me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
All right, Donna, I'm gonna let him explain it after
I hang up. Okay, okay, thank you, all right, thank you.
I appreciate the call. All right, Pharaoh.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Okay. One of the reasons why we don't like looking
at history because we were never allowed to read from slavery. See,
we were never allowed to read. So you know, as
whites has always said, if you want to hide something
from a black person, put it in a book. So

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that's what he does because he know we're not going
to read it if he keeps it out of Jet magazine,
keeps it out of Ebony magazine, keeps it out of
Essence magazine. But we don't never know about it because
we don't read. See one of our problems. We don't read,

(01:12:46):
we don't study things. We roll with the punches. What
a person says, we go with it anything that I
talk to you about. I have researched and studied this
while I was in college. Just to call in somebody
to call in and criticize me based on emotions, you know,

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or their beliefs, and haven't studied what I've studied.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
See, it's ridiculous. But I understand why we do these
things because we don't want to look at things because
we were not allowed to read, and when we started
to read, we didn't read the things that were relevant
to us as a people or to our culture. Like now,

(01:13:34):
if we if we buy the Cincinnati inquir what do
we look at?

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
I mean, asking Terrence, what do we look at the
Cincinnati Inquiry.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Yeah, let's just say, if we buy the Cincinnati Inquiry,
as African people, what do we look at in the paper?

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
I mean I would probably look at local news. I mean,
that's what It's the first thing I would think about it.
You know, what do we look at I don't know, the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
Movies, the entertainment section. You might look at the comics,
you know, or something like that. We're not interested in
looking at world events, you know, what's going on around
the world. You know, what's happening around the world. See,
we're not interested in that type of thing. See this
is why whites put all this information in their scientific journals,

(01:14:24):
you know, US News, World Report, Time Magazine. You know,
they put these things in these these types of magazines
because they know we're not gonna read it. And then
somebody who does read it try to report to you
about what they found in research. The first thing we said,

(01:14:45):
I don't believe that, well that this is his opinion?
Out what did you read? What did you study? See
where's your research? Where's your documentation? See? All right, you
have is a belief.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
All right, Pharaoh, before we go to break, I'm gonna
take raised questions. He's been holding off for a while,
so I'm gonna take him befo a break. Uh ray,
good morning. You got a question for the pharaoh?

Speaker 8 (01:15:09):
Yeah, actually I got basically a comment, Pharaoh. A lot
of people when you come on the last time you
were on h on the show, and every you know,
you took questions. My thing was it was a waste
of time because you weren't challenged, you know, and uh,
you get criticism. You get criticized a lot when you

(01:15:30):
when you express your views in it, but you've always said,
you know it's based on history, uh, in research. And
so let me ask you this, who do you consider
your equal? That actually someone can just come on and
just challenge you. You guys can go back and forth
instead of just your number of basic callers that try

(01:15:50):
to pick apart everything you say. That's one thing and
two is Lincoln asked you earlier. I think it was
it this week or last week that have you ever
just seen a white woman that you just wanted to date?
And you said no? So my question would be, what
problem would you have with in a ratio dating relationships

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white man black women or black men and white women.
But as far as far as you being challenged, who
would you consider your equal? That can come on and
just you guys can just go back and forth and
maybe we'll learn something.

Speaker 11 (01:16:25):
Okay, Okay, all right, Ray, thanks for your car.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
Okay, I'll respond to what he's saying. Or do you
want to be hold on? Did you come back?

Speaker 3 (01:16:34):
Can you hold on till we come back?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Okay, all right, So all right, well wait a minute,
that's the Pharaoh. He's going to respond to Ray's question
after the break. Who is Pharaoh's equal in Pharaoh's mind,
and would he date any big booty white chicks. Now
he didn't say that, but uh, we're talking to the Pharaoh.
On the other side of the break. I'm Terrence Howard

(01:16:57):
in for Lincoln Ware on The Lincoln Ware Show on
twelve thirty. The Buzz Lincoln returns tomorrow. I promise you
you'll never have to hear my voice ever again. We're
working on getting a new host when Lincoln leaves, so
that way you all can call in and be happy
with your hosts instead of having to deal with me. Well, listen,

(01:17:20):
I'm filling in. I'm feeling in. I'm happy to fill in.
But like I said, we're doing some new things. Sooner
or later, it's going to be worked out and you
won't have to worry about me filling in anymore. What
Chess says, I'm doing a good job. But listen, the

(01:17:41):
numbers on Facebook Live says no. Lincoln has eight hundred
people a thousand people watching him on Facebook Live and
I have three. So they'll let you know right there
how much love I'm getting quote unquote love. But it's
all good. Listen, I got the fair I'm glad he
called in and he's gonna address raised question of who

(01:18:06):
is your equal? And is it what you date white
women or something like that. But Pharaoh came back and
go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Yeah. First of all, I'll say, I consider anybody my
equal who is well read, who is well read, where
you can discuss any aspect of history with me if
you are well read. But if you are talking to me,
and I am a licensed historian, and you all of

(01:18:37):
your references is to the Bible and to the Koran.
These are not historical documents. Because anybody who's been in
college and you have studied a history, you turn to
the back of the book, it has a biblic biography

(01:19:00):
or references to where the sources came from for you
to write this book. If you turn to the back
of the Bible. In the Quran, where are you, where
is your bibliography? Where are your references?

Speaker 11 (01:19:16):
What you used?

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
They say it was inspired by God, That's what they say.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
See, So therefore, if there is no reference, it's considered
a novel. See it's nothing but a novel. Because if
you're saying something and I'm questioning what you're saying, let
me go to the source and read upon it myself,
so thout my own conclusion. But if there is no sources,
you're just writing that's a novel. See.

Speaker 3 (01:19:42):
So I take it that you're not going to read
Deuteronomy twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Really for what purpose? I mean, where did you Where
did you get that from? Whatever I read about in Deuteronomy?
What sources did you use right to write that?

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
See, and if they don't have any references or any bibliography,
and it's just your opinion. See, if you're dealing with history,
I mean, I can write a book about a man
and woman meeting each other as kids, and they grew
up and somehow another they separated, and forty years later
they met again and their love was still there, and

(01:20:22):
they rolled off in the sunset. I can write a
book about that. You don't expect to find any references
to it at the end of the book because it's
a story, a novel. So if you're dealing with history,
it has to have references.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
So Pharaoh, we're running out of time. I'm only going
to be on til noon.

Speaker 11 (01:20:42):
Do you have any answers for about this white woman's things?

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
You know I've seen a lot of white women who
look decent. But I had no desire to deal with
white women. I am about mild women. We have the
beautifulest women in the world, our people, ye have the
beautifulest women in the world, second to none. So why
would I even looked at a white woman Because whatever

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I would think about she had, my woman got the
same thing, even better looking. So I don't think about that.
We have been huh. We have been manipulated and used
and messed around with, and you know, and mixed and

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everything with white sold slavery, white mastery, dealing with our women.
We have been messed around enough. I don't need to
add to that by messing with something somebody who doesn't
look like me. You know, my interest in my love
is for my people.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Right woman, Now, Pharaoh, we gotta wrap it up in
a couple of minutes. Who do you consider your equal?

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
You said, what? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Remember Ray asked you two questions. One was about the
white woman and the other one was about who would
you consider your equal?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
I said, anybody would be my equal.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Anybody will read okay, So you don't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Have anything coming to me from a religious standpoint, And
I'm talking to you about history and science, and you're
telling me about your Bible.

Speaker 3 (01:22:17):
Okay, So there's no.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Coming together on that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Okay. So I guess he was wondering if there was
any particular person that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
You had in mind, if it would be I consider
them my equal if you can come to me with
scientific evidence and proof of what you're saying, yes, and
we can talk, okay, But so we can't talk and
I'm talking science and you're talking beliefs.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
See, well, have you ever debated someone on history or
black history or biblical issues? And you just said, man,
that guy, that cat's pretty smart. He almost got me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Really, because that's where we are. You're stuck in religion,
so we don't read anything else to debate. Anybody like
me would love to debate someone who was intellectually and
came with historical facts. All right, everybody, we become with
religious beliefs, you know. See, and everything that I speak

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about the problem is with me and most people, especially asking.

Speaker 3 (01:23:18):
People, yes you got thirty seconds, Pharaoh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
The biggest problem is that they come to me with
their beliefs, their religious beliefs, and what I say contradicts
their religious beliefs, and they're trying to take what I say,
and try to fit it into what they already believe, okay,
and it's not gonna fit right, that's a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:23:38):
Well, Pharaoh, I really appreciate the time, man, I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I learned a lot today. And uh, listen, Uh maybe
next time we'll get together man, and and then chop
it up and talk about some things.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
All right, right, And you need if there is going
to be a replacement Lincoln where over time I hope
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Oh well, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:01):
I appreciate a good host, and you need recognition.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
I really appreciate it. And Pharaoh, I gotta run. I
hate to cut it short. Listen. I appreciate you listening.
We got the noon hour coming up. There's gonna be
a rebroadcast. I'll see you on the other side of
the glass Lincoln where we return tomorrow. And I appreciate
you listening. I'm tearing Howard in for Lincoln where on
twelve thirty, the Buzz