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August 10, 2025 4 mins


For more than 25 years, Sally Leydon has been waiting for answers about her missing mum, Marion Barter.

In Season 2, Sal steps beyond her own story to speak with other families enduring the same unthinkable reality—the ambiguous loss of a loved one who has vanished without explanation.

These are raw, intimate conversations about hope that refuses to die, grief that never finds closure, and the strength it takes to live in the in-between. 

 

Episode 1 for Season 2 is out Monday, August 18th. 

 

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apodje production.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
So my name is Sally Laden and my mom, Marian Barto,
has been missing since nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Sally Leyden had the support of dozens of loved ones
as a coroner today confirmed what she's known all along,
setting off from the.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Gold Coast for the adventure of a lifetime, a lot
of Australia's highest profile mysteries that stretches from Queensland to
New South Wales, well.

Speaker 4 (00:33):
Then half her life without her mom and a lengthy inquest.

Speaker 5 (00:37):
But tonight Sally Layden has no answers.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I can't comment at this time.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I'm sorry has this brought you any closure at all.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I've worked hard to tell my mom's story because in
my heart, someone somewhere knows something and I'm desperately searching
for that next piece of the puzzle.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
She'd been dating a man named Rick Bloom who lied
about his identity. Today, Corona Teresa O'Sullivan found the pair
travel to the UK, returning without telling Marion's family.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I wanted to give an opportunity to other people who
potentially haven't had that same exposure through the media or
through podcast, to tell their story about their missing loved ones.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
It's almost too hard to fathom, but every fifteen minutes
someone in Australia disappears. On the EVA Missing Person's Week,
the family of Nicholas Salice has once again called for
help from the community in the hopes of closure.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
About twelve thirty pm on Saturday, the twenty eighth of
July nineteen eighty four, seventeen year old Mega more Quinny
was last year standing outside Wooden Plaza. Thirteen years ago,
Warren Meyer went hiking in Victoria's Yarraw Rangers and was
never seen again.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
For the family's left behind, the anguish of not knowing
what's happened to their loved one can be overwhelming.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's important to me personally because I feel like everyone
deserves to be heard and everybody matters.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
Be Linda Willeman. Her husband Darren dropped her father Jahn
Jensen home on Sunday after a family lunch. They say
he was in good spirits, but the sixty eight year
old has disappeared without a trace.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
The podcasts will be a kind, gentle conversation that has
an empathy and understanding that not a lot of people
have without lived experience, and I want to be able
to give the families with those missing loved ones an
opportunity to tell us about their loved one, who they

(02:47):
are and why they matter.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But to everyone else, who was very quiet, you know,
he was always seen in the front line room, you know,
I sort of keeping to himself. He was happy watching TV,
was happy reading. He loved his books. But he was
a sort of very affectionate dad in a woodboy house.
Every night I late on, I sat on lap, He's
reclined a chair, and he just tick on my back.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
And we just talked.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
And then it'd bear it has time for bed now,
So I got lady's bed and we just we just
chat and then we had this theme where he just
you know, sort of stick on me on the head
when it's like, okay, that was his sign of BINDI
I'm starting to go off to sleep now. Just in
case I don't answer you.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Our first episode is actually with my friend Jay, and
we're going to discuss the story of his missing uncle,
Desmond car.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
I saw it affect my mom. I saw it affect
my auntie's and my grandparents.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Your granddad in particular.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
My mum and my family said for a long time
that my granddad died early because of heartache, and.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
I totally get that. I totally see how just the
ambiguity of not knowing do you be able to listen
to our first episode, The Missing Matter. Des Matter is
out and available on all platforms Monday, the eighteenth of August.
Why does dares matter?

Speaker 6 (04:16):
These matters? Oh jeez, I think I'd get emotional. It
does matters now more than ever because
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