Courageous Parenting with Tracy Martin

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(02:32):
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(02:56):
welcome to the Patriot Barbie Podcast. About a month ago,
so I had the honor of being a guest on
TLM Nation with my friend, my new friend Tracy, and gosh,
we had so much fun.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well, I don't know it's fun.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
We dug dug into some pretty deep and dirty stuff.
But women empowerment man like finding strong women who are
making a move in the nation, doing what they're called
to do, finding their purpose is like just it's so
empowering to align yourself with those kind of women. And
so I'm really excited to bring Tracy here today and

(03:33):
let her share a little bit about what she's doing
and how she's making a mark in the world. And
there's a lot You are a certified Transformational life coach,
You're a licensed brain health trainer, You're a fourth generation entrepreneur,
an author, a speaker, all the things. So but one
of the things that most gosh, most intrigues me is

(03:55):
that you work mostly with gen Z, which such a
different generation.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
They are. They are, but you know what, I really
truly believe that they are built different too, you know,
I do. I think that they have so many, so
much more resources and abilities. But we're the leaders so
and parents and parenting. I work with a lot of
parents at the radio show Raising Greatness, which is a
big thing resource for parents. It's a Christian radio. But

(04:22):
the thing I think about gen Z is is that
they're at a very pivotal time to where they have
to grasp on this information. You know, I've had some
people tell me, you know, you're kind of radical in
this way, and I'm like, yeah, because you have a
very short window right to actually impact your kids before
culture gets a hold of them.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So what is gen Z helped me out because I'm older.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
To twenty fifteen, ninety seven to twenty fifteen, so they
were born gen Z was born with the Internet art existing, right,
and like it was like AOL startup.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
But still I mean MySpace musically, you know, those kinds
of videos type stuff like that was kind of the thing.
And then twenty fifteen that after twenty fifteen is gen
Z alpha okay, which is you know, those kids are
kind of getting it quicker, especially especially the young boys.
They're they're ironically most of them of gen Z. The
guys have sworn off dating because because the girls are

(05:14):
just gone down that path of I mean, it's it's
sad because I always say pornography ruined young men, and
social media ruined young women, Holy fans and all that stuff.
And but that goes back to again the character that
you know, the drive, what their foundation is. And that's
why I love working with these kids and these families
because if we look forward, our question is always, you know, well,

(05:36):
the best thing to start with is a strong family, right,
But what are we doing as a culture and as
a community and as families to create that? You know,
what are we being intentional about?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Right?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
You know? And that that requires moms. You know, there's
a lot, there's a lot we got to do. There's
a lot of things that we have to shift and
change too.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, especially if you can already, like you just laid
out what the problem is. So if you already know
what the problem is, you can go back and try
to correct it. So the so the gen Z alpha
dude said, I'm laying off dating. Why because girls are
weird and like all they care about is being a
boss babe, or they're obsessed with their social media.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's very hyper sexualized too, you know what I mean.
They sleep I mean yeah, I mean sleeping around. I
mean what their body counts like ten by the time
they're twenty two. And it's crazy because you know, the
guys have somebody asked me this, They go, well, what
comes first? He the guys got to level up or
the girls got to level up? I said, well, you're
the leaders. The men have got to be the leaders

(06:27):
in this country and this family and this dating. So
if you're not able to lead a girl and say
no when she comes forward for you and proposes sex
or whatever it is, then you're part of the problem.
And then you have to ask yourself. We all know
there's guys that are willing to have sex with one girl,
but they want to marry this girl, right, right. They
don't want to marry their Friday night, they want to
marry the Sunday morning. Right, So then you have to go, well,

(06:49):
what does that person possess? You know, who is that
person and what are their traits? You know, what have
they been equipped with family wise? And because families look
so different today in today's world world, and you've got
single moms raising boys and I'm sorry, you can't do it.
You cannot raise a strong masculine young man. Typically you
over mother and underfather at that point. So then what

(07:12):
is the influence then to create that to be a
you know, that's because then that then will perpetuate generationally, right,
you know. And then our sexual energy as humans is
the most powerful energy in the world. It's the most
powerful energy. So if you think about it, the world
is telling you eighteen to twenty three have sex. You know,
legalized weed, drink whenever you want to underage, drinking on

(07:33):
social media least eight hours a day, and all of it.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Empowers you, all of it makes you exactly who you
want to be. Everyone's doing it.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
So all your energy that is meant to create and
build and sustain your life for your future wife and
family is being completely dismantled. And it's all by design.
And so the fun thing is is when they come
into the coaching studio, I have this massive whiteboard and
we just start downloading, you know, we start downloading on
what their internal dialogue is, what their biases are, you know,

(08:03):
what they believe they lack or what they need. If
they're going off into the world of college. Please God,
why I know, if you're going there, let's talk about it.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know, that's right board which ones not to go
to at least.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Because a lot of times it's just that slippery slope
where we're supposed to you know, you go to high school,
you go to college, and then But what education today
is and why families are so blindsided, is that it
literally educates the uniqueness in the individuality right out of you.
You know, so because I meet a lot of kids
that come in my studio so you read that a

(08:34):
four generation entrepreneur. I have a lot of young kids
who have great ideas, but they're shut down, you know,
they're shut down, their creativity is shut down. So when
they come in our space, I want to know more
about what that looks like. Because even the journey of
I mean, you know, coming up with an idea, conceptualizing it,
running it out, sourcing it, building it, creating it, that
is such an education in yourself and discovering who you're becoming.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Not to mention it takes a massive amount of discipline, hope,
and perseverance to say, I'm going to hit obstacles at
every single one of those steps. And I still believe
in the in the concept that I created, I still
do well. The government doesn't want those kind of people.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Either, absolutely not, and parents a lot of times don't
know what to do with those kinds of kids. I mean,
I was lucky because I was raised by an entrepreneur home.
So for me, my dad was the guy that was like,
you want to do that, figure it out. I mean,
he was never the father that and my mom was
just both my parents are amazing, but my dad wasn't
the guy that said no, that's not going to work.

(09:33):
He's like, how is it going to work? So I
was met with that language automatically. So when I see
the kids in here and I hear that I can't
it's not going to work. What's the point Go to college,
get a degree, it's safe, I'm like, it's not safe.
It's the at least safe place.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Leave discovered in twenty twenty that most of your jobs
were not safe.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
They were not safe, they were not they were not essential. No,
And so that's why I always tell kids, you know,
sometimes what you want to do you have to create too,
you know. And then we you know, they lack the confidence,
they lack the resilience, they lack the grit for sure,
you know. And so we work on all that, you know,
within the families. And and if I'm lucky enough, when
a parent hires me to work with their kids, the

(10:12):
parents come into the mix too, because I can't just
speak to one and then they go back to that
same environment. So I get to work with moms and dads, kids,
if it's extended family, whoever has influence, you know. I've
even moved in with some families, which is pretty crazy,
my god. And it's which is fun because I get it.
We do. We work on nutrition, we have we have
a physical challenge, then we work on communication. And but

(10:33):
you start to realize that that it's holistic. You know.
It's like if you take one person, you put in
an environment that's not conducive to what their growth and
they're not solid in their conviction. You can see what's
happening to our kids today. It's the trans movement. It's
like these kids are not solid in who they are,
so they're not willing to speak out against something and
be convicted. And if they are, then of course they're canceled.

(10:54):
They're this. I have clients that are dealing with this
right now. But I told myself, I go, but the
culture is what changed and what shifted, and if we
don't recognize that and what our foundation is, we're raising
weak minded kids, you know. And and so so then
you go back to my whole thing is always what's
my end goal? As a parent. I always ask myself
what's my end goal? I want to raise healthy, whole,

(11:16):
successful kids. I want to raise strong women, but I
want to raise wives and mothers. I want my girls
to know their most important job is a wife and
a mother, you know, and and and there's nothing demeaning
in that. It's so powerful.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Women gift it is.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
It is, it is. And you see women on social
media their kids are an accessory, you know, And I'm like, no,
you have not's call anybody out, but hey.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
No no, I just had a clear exactly right.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
And then and and so then you look at the
young girls who are looking at that, and and and
they see this, and that's the I love it whenever.
Then we talked about the influencer versus influential, you know,
and I said, I love it whenever I meet. I
met a young girl, she was eighteen. She was getting
her hair cut next to me. This is a while ago,
and she goes, I go, what do you do? We're
just talking because they were telling her what I did,
and I go, what do you do? She goes, oh,
I'm a social media influencer. And then I followers, No,

(12:07):
this is bad. I go what do you influence? And
she stopped dead in her track. She's like, she goes,
what do you mean. I go, well, you're a social
media influencer. What do you influence? And she goes, well,
I don't know. I can't even leave my apartment with
that people taking photos of me, I go.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
But again.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
But as an influence first in myself.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'm like, but that's my point, right, It's like they
don't know their why.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Who is she? I can't like, does she even have
people taking photos of me? Come on?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I don't know honestly. But it was just the mind
She said how.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Many followers she had. I didn't pay attention, like is
it one point two million? Because I mean no, I
didn't even pay ten I can leave my house.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
But you know what, but that's the mindset, right, And
so there's the entitlement, there's all those kinds of things
that we're breeding. I read a.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Statistic that this isn't even recent.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
This was like ten years ago back when this was
all starting, where they would ask high school aged kids.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
What they wanted to be and the response.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Was an influencer or YouTuber.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, I'm like a content creator. So it went from
everyone being unique and wanting to have their own goals
and aspirations to like, I want to be famous on
social media, and it's like, oh, it's just that easy.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
It's just that easy to be famous on social.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
And but that's their drive and their desire and so
and and you know what, if that's what you want
to do, then tell me what your why is. And
I do have some young kids who are like, great question,
they're in fitness. I'm like, okay, so what is your why?
You know if it's all about your photos? And I
had these comment because I was a personal trainer for decades.
I mean I was a pioneer in the Middlewest. Resume.
Yeah right, I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Write down every time you tell me what you've done.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
Owned a gym for years, I mean, the whole thing.
But I saw this this it's kind of like these
industries cannibalize themselves. What is the biblical serpent where it's
like an abyss where it eats it It's eats its
own tail.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Oh yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
That's why I feel like happens in a lot of
these industries. It's because is you know, it's not about me.
It's about what I can do for my clients. You know,
it's not about as a trainer. When I was a trainer,
it wasn't about what I look like. It was about
how can I do, how can I work and be
in service to you. Today it's like everybody's ass, can
I say ask? Yeah, Okay, everybody's ass is all over

(14:18):
Instagram about about what I have. I have a great
I'm like, that's great. But if that's your goal, you're
missing the point of a fitness lifestyle. It's longevity, it's
skeletal muscle, it's it's all these things that create a
better life. It's a keystone habit. But they don't have
the conversations around this. And my big thing with these kids,
I always always dig in the families, what's your why?

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (14:38):
You know, I mean everything that I've done that God's
blessed me to do, I had a massive why and
then I and then I might have when I got
to that point, I might say, Okay, God, we're done,
what's next? You know what else you got for me?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Well, these girls that are and I'm kind of just
I'm gonna take a little dig right now.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
So if this is you, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
But the girls that are on social media and their
filter is all the same, and it's then in a
bikini and it's them drinking and martini. It's them showing
like what a glamorous life. They have the question that
you ask, which is why the answer, it looks like
is I want people to be jealous of me. I
want people to envy me. I want people to warve
my life. And it's like, why would you want that

(15:16):
for other people?

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Because it makes you feel better?

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Yeah, And being a person that has a lot of
accidental followers on social media, I look at the things
I post and I make sure that it's it meets
the goal to inspire people, to encourage people, to empower people,
to give people a call to action. If I ever
start posting really weird, cheesy like look at my perfect life,

(15:38):
I'm like, hm, I don't a perfect life. Yeah, I don't
want that to be the goal. That that can't be
that can't be fulfilling, like, oh it all the time
because it's not.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I mean, that's and that's why they take five hundred
photos and post one, you know. I mean. And I
always tell my kids, if you're gonna do that, I go.
I've worked with a lot of young women who have
started out posting the wrong images, you know, I mean,
posting for the follows and the likes. And if I post,
you know, half naked, I get I get these great followers.
If I post about a vacation I took with my family,
nobody nobody cares, and I go. I always tell them

(16:11):
pick three topics and vet your photos through those three topics.
So if one might be my faith, my family, and
my fitness. So if they don't meet those three topics,
don't post it, you know, because that's going to keep
you consistently cohesive with your with your content that you're building.
Otherwise you're you're only It's like, you have a bad day,
you found a great photo and you're gonna post it

(16:32):
because you know you look good, and then you want
everybody to validate it, you know. But meanwhile you're the
least confident person in the room, you know. And it's
I mean, we break these whiteboards down about this, and
I love it because the kids are vulnerable. I call
them out, but it's really calling them to action to
create change. You know. It's like, Okay, are you happy? No?
Do you have bad days? Yes? What's what is the

(16:54):
one common denominator? Exactly? And a lot of times it's
their self talk. A lot of it's generational trauma. It's families,
it's you know, not having parents that they need. When
they start to date, they start to look at well,
my dad was never there, so I never felt protected.
So I picked the bad boy because I believe he
can protect me when it's the last thing. And I
love diving into these dating things. I mean I've had

(17:15):
to we do like align and define sessions with like
young people are getting married really young, and we've consciously
uncoupled quite a few because because there was no alignment.
It was just like, well, we want to get married
as looks like, I go, you're putting more effort into
your dress and the wedding than your life.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
Let's dive into that life happening for centuries.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Constantly and so. But that's why the divorce rate is
and that's why people were able to attack the nuclear
families because we have statistics to prove it.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's like marriage isn't any good? I said, no, marriage
is great with the right one go you I go.
And friendship is a foundation for marriage, you know, and
that's what carries you through the difficult times when you're
like You're like I don't want to be around you,
but you're like, no, I need to talk to you,
my friend, right exactly, Mattie.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So I want to talk to you because you're my.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Friend because I know, I know I can be me
and there's authenticity in that. And all these messages within
the coaching message is so important today because number one,
the kids see I mean, they know something's wrong in
their soul. They know it is, you know, and whether
whether it's a you know, a journey of faith trying
to find their relationship with Christ, or whether it is
you know, trying to heal their families, or they see

(18:20):
their family and go, I don't want that. I go,
That's the beautiful news is you don't have to. You
can create something totally different for your family, but you
have to know what you don't want, and sometimes you
got to go through those experiences to know that to know, Okay,
what can I build on that's better and improve every generation.
I want my girls to improve upon what I did.
You know, I want them to well.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
And that's the other that's a whole other point of
the social media aspect is the kids are looking at
social media influencers and saying, oh, that's what I want,
that's what I want to say, But you don't even
know what you're really getting because that's just a feed
that's not real life. Neither's neither are reality shows, but
that's what they're using to base on, Like, well, that's
the kind of life I want. I want to be
like Miiley Cyrus and party every weekend and be famous.

(19:02):
It's like, do you though, yeah, sure doesn't look satisfiable.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Well and not only that, they don't see the consequences
of that life. So like I always tell people, the
number one thing, the most important decision you'll ever make
is who you marry, because you're going to battle. You know,
at every step you're going to battle, and it can
make or break. I mean, if you've got, you know,
a man that just strictly goes after the physical and
the sexual part of it, good luck when things get
rough in your life, you know. And by the same

(19:26):
thing with women, if you want to be a wife
and a mom and you want to stay home and
be traditional and your husband doesn't align with that, these
are the conversations that people aren't having and so you
have to have them, and a lot of times they
don't go well, you know, And and kids need kids
don't see that solid relationship you know anymore, that is
they they work together their partners. You know, if I

(19:47):
step in you know, if I step out, my husband
steps in. If he steps out, I step in, you know,
and it's it's difficult to do, but it's anything worth
It is difficult, you know. And I think that's what
the biggest thing with gen Z is they're seeking that
message because a lot of them don't have the examples.
You know. I do think that men are getting better

(20:08):
at the leadership role. I think there's a lot because
people saw how out of whack it was because we
had such passive men and such and yeah and so
all that stuff and then such feminized men and part
and I always break it down in four components. So
you have the biological factor, which is our environmental toxins,
the lack of testosterone. That's biological. You have the social
factor because they have no skills, they have no skills

(20:30):
to ask a girl out or date or interpersonal communication.
Then you have the physical part of it, which is
are you taking the strength of a man and your
and your body seriously? And they have the spiritual part.
Are you a godly man? Are you bilically driven man?
So if you look at those four components, you know,
and you look at someone like that, and that's why
I say in that window. If you build that young
man that is turning away what the culture wants you

(20:52):
to go for, you'll have a successful life. Not without problems,
you know, you'll have a successful life.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
The acts there's few and far between with There are
women out there doing the same thing, breaking themselves down.
And am I doing what it takes to be to
prepare myself to be a money?

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Am I taking care of myself physically? Am I following God?

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I got to write those things down into episode remind meat.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
But it's true because we have like our I mean,
the New Age and you know, all the mystical stuff
and everything just completely mind melded us because it's like
self love. No self discipline is self love right period,
you know. I mean, if you can discipline your life,
you'll have a successful life. But it was that language
that happened for so many years that got into everybody's

(21:33):
gonna sing Kumbaia at the end of the day. No
we're not. Yeah, you're gonna be called to stand your ground.
I mean you know that, yeah, one hundred percent. So
it's like whatever that looks like. But if you don't
know who you're becoming, and then you have I always
call these four pillars of destruction with young men, which
is gaming, weed, alcohol, and porn. Those four things are
coming after our young men. But the thing that is
so frustrating to watch is that they are giving themselves

(21:57):
permission to participate in the very thing that they want
to buck up against, which is the system. I go
and people I say, well, the system's broken. I said, no, no, No,
systems working exactly the way, was doing what.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
It wants to do, trust me to it, and I'm
watching it happen.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Yeah, and but then you but then you post all
these things, but you live in contradiction behind the scenes,
and I see that part. That's why being a coach,
I get privileged to see that part, and then we
try to connect those and eliminate the contradiction, you know,
and actually walk out your word.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I did a post probably like a year ago that
my husband goes, ooh, You're gonna get a lot of
crap for that, and I was like, I don't care.
And it stemmed from visiting my chiropractic office and the
lady at the front desk like knowing who I was,
or knowing my fight or something, and then saying, I
wish I could get my husband in the fight boy.
He loves to play video games, and she's like, you know,
there's you want to fight.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
There's a real one going on. And I was like,
oh my gosh, she's so right.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
And I made this whole video on Instagram saying, how
come you are willing to sit in that chair and fight, fight, fight,
and act like a man on a game. Why can't
you put that down and stand up and and and
get the appreciation and the love and the adoration of
all of humanity if you were to step up and
fight the fight that's actually happening right now in your country,

(23:12):
in your family and your house.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Acting acting, because otherwise there's action, right, So as long
as you act the part and look the part, that's
all that the world sees.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
And yeah, and they don't need you to actually be
the part.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
No, no, And that's and I think that's one of
the biggest things too, is when you when you look
at men and you, depending upon the age group, you know,
it's like there's and I always talk about this with
my parents, it's like, so women are it's funny if
you go through abuse, and we talked about this, if
you go through something like this, you take on a
masculine identity, right, so you protect yourself. I had to

(23:44):
do it myself. That's what women do. Men don't take
on a feminine identity when something goes wrong. But now
they're being feminized because then it's the it's not the
la it's not the toxic masculinity isn't real. It's the
lack of it that's toxic.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
So, or that's any of the boundary that you want
to put in place. But I think that's where we
have to go back. It's like I always jokingly tell
my husband, like when we were first married, he was
working so much and I had my first daughter, and
we were married five years before I had before I
had my daughter, and I was I was the entrepreneur.
I was building the business, I had my gym and
all that kind of stuff. And then it was funny
because I would jokingly say, there's no pants laying around

(24:20):
the house because I'll put them on, you know, because
I But then my question then was my work was
just because I can doesn't mean I should.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Know, I got you got to give room in that
gap of that grace to go. I need him in
that in that gap, but just because I can't, because
I'm a strong female, I will, you know. And so
my my big task for raising girls was that I
needed them to be strong and resilient that if something
were happened, they could step in, but to know themselves

(24:49):
well enough to know that when they're a strong feminine,
they will surrender that to an even stronger male. Yeah,
the problem in dating in the world today is women
think they're so they're like, I mean, they're they're they're
they're they're paper right, It's like they think they're super strong.
I'm like, really, go to the front lines of the
battleground exactly. Go go dig up ditches, go work on say.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
Something that goes against what the crowd is saying. Just
go into the crowd right there and say and see
what happens.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Yeah, they well, and that's the thing. They they they
they say it, but they can't walk it out. I mean,
it's like it's like even joking at my house, it's
like there's things I do inside the house and I
will not do outside the house. That's my husband's you know.
And and soone let's define gender roles, you know. Yeah,
So I mean, so it's basically I'm like, I'm not
going to go dig up a ditch and do manual labor.
Can I? If I'm called to it? Of course I can't.
I was raised on a farm, absolutely nails off, exactly,

(25:33):
let me get my lashes done, you know. But but then,
but then it comes down to that beautiful yin and yang.
The way that God created our relationship is is that
you know, I mean, wasn't it Moses why or eventually
his wife that she was the shepherd? She was out
because her father had no sons, so she was out
tending to the sheep. And then and so so again
you can do it. But but the beautiful synergy of

(25:54):
marriage is is a strong masculine and a strong feminine.
I'm emotionally strong younger than my husband. He's physically stronger
than I am. He will do things I wouldn't. I
won't do. I'll just be like no. And so there's
that drive and that virility that our men are. It's
being taken away from him. Like I said, those all
four of those categories, and some of it is biological
with the environmental and the testosterone levels that takes away

(26:16):
your vitality too.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, there's some alarming studies that have come out about
the amount of testosterone men had in like even nineteen
eighty to nineteen sixty and now.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And it is drag to go back and look at
your books from like twenty five years ago, like they
were thirty years old. I mean, and all my young
men I coach, that is one that they have to
get their blood work done and I need to see
their testosterone levels. And I know I'm probably one of
the only coaches that does that.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
I think that's amazing.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
No, it is because I then I mean, so the
way that you measure testosterone is between three hundred and
twelve hundred, which I think is hilarious. The range is
so big. Yeah, and all these ranges are taken from
six societies to begin with, so it's really individually what
your blood work looks like, and it's just a snapshot.
I have young men who are eighteen nineteen, there's this
like four hundred. You should be peggan eight hundred.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Yeah, because it's supposed to drop as you get older,
so it should be at its prime around that time, right.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Like Oh, and that's why I always tell the guys,
I go, let's get your baseline. Let's see where you're at.
And then when we look at it and they're like,
what the hell, tea, I go, yeah, I go. And
they're smaller in status.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Just why you're crying every day exactly.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
They're smaller in stature, They're very sensitive, and if they
were raised by a single mom, they're more emotional. They
lack the discipline of the ability to discipline their emotions,
and they're more sensitive. And when we start having these conversations,
you can't really dive into that without having being humble
as a parent to go, you know. And I mean
even like when I raise some of my oldest daughter's

(27:39):
vaccine injured, I shared with you, and so I had
to become a different version to her than I was
with my younger daughter, you know. And then she was
my biggest teacher, you know, she was she was my
biggest teacher on myself. And knowing, wow, I really got
to work on this. I have to get better at
this part of it. I know what I mean, but
how am I communicating it? You know? And then there
were days where you just walk in and you just

(27:59):
take over. You know. It's like I don't see the
other way out, And then there's other ways where I
got to be effective. I really got to be effective,
you know. And so when you have those conversations generationally
and you share that, it changes the game on how
we see our families, how we see relationships, and how
we parent. And I think that more than anything is
what my goal is is to actually have really healthy parents,

(28:21):
to have healthy kids. Yeah, and then the next generation benefits,
right because we're seeding our kids now, we won't see
the harvest. Sometimes there's there's just no way.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
So what do you what's your first step as far
as like the trans movement and what I mean, it's
taking over children in gen z. How do we how
do we as a community even like begin to start
dismantling that.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So it's funny. So I had a mom call me
a while ago and she said, are you a gender
affirming coach? And I said, look in your pants? I'm serious,
I answer, because that's truth.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, okay it is, and I file and science exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
It's truth. I don't care what you want to say
with the delusion. It's truth. And so she goes, Okay,
I need to hire you to work with my daughter.
And then I had a couple a couple someone's sons
I was working with. And so the conversation has to
start in truth. It has to start in being rooted
in truth, because if you're a warrior mom, you got
to learn. And that's why I said my question was
always am I effective? You know? It's like I can

(29:23):
come after my kids and yell and scream I want
you this my way, this way, that way. But the
goal is to listen to them and what do you see?
What are you hearing, what's influencing you? You know, what's
your internal dialogue about this? What questions do you have?
You know, what are you willing to listen to? What
are you willing to actually open your mind up to?
And if you look at like I mean years ago,

(29:43):
back in like nineteen eighty or nineteen ninety four to five,
kids would outgrow this quote unquote phase.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know, it's not a phase anymore because it's there's
a nefarious movement. And that's what I'm saying. If you
look at it. Plus with the social media part of it,
they can't ever get away from it. Yeah, you know,
it's never a and then it becomes their language, and
then it becomes their identity. And when your identity is
in question, you're in crisis. And so then if you
go to what I can this this you know free?

(30:09):
Well don't. Yeah, I'm sorry, but not sorry. Whenever you
look at the modalities of therapy and counseling, a lot
of them are affirming, you know, to their demise the
issues with their kids. But I see it when kids
come to me after five years of therapy and I'm like,
what did you learn about yourself? Where did you go?
And we revolve instead of evolve out of things. And

(30:32):
so when you look at that around the trans movement,
number one, they are experimenting on kids. There's no two
ways about it. And if you can't see that, then
the work is the parent because you have to. And
it's interesting, highly educated PhD families are the ones that
are pushing this more, which is fascinating. It is weird.

(30:52):
It is weird.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
You're supposed to do no harm.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
You're supposed to be educated enough to know that this
is an issue, not.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
A But think about this. I always say that I
will take the advice of a farmer over a PhD
any day, because a farmer has critical thinking. They have
to learn to work with their environment and their world
around them. They have to communicate differently. If you're in
an institutional education, you've taught You've been taught the same
way for years and years, and nobody's question. It comes
out of the books, and everyone in that environment learns

(31:18):
the same thing, you know. And so if you look
at just the conversations around that, and then how are
we ever going to get out of this? It's going
to take people who number one, are rooted in faith
because it is biblical. This is not political. I don't
care what anybody has to say. It is biblical. And
so and that makes people uncomfortable, and it's uncomfortable because
of the confusion that's been created around it, you know,

(31:41):
and I understand that, I get it, I go, but
to you have to identify. Number One, we create biases
about ourselves. So like the world that you the life
that you've lived, the life that I live, I have
a natural bias around certain things. So then my work
is to become neutral and to discipline my emotions to
be able to be logically communicating these things. So you
get to that point, So then that's my work, right

(32:01):
And so as a parent, when you see these movements
that are coming after your kid, if you're jumping on
the bandwagon the name of tolerance and acceptance. I want
my kid to be kind and all those kinds of things.
You know, you have to look at the underlying message.
Because kind to who kind of the person with a
gun to their head?

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah you know?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I mean no, you have to stand up for yourself,
an advocate for yourself. And I told my girls from
day one, I would rather you piss someone off than
to be quiet when you're uncomfortable around someone.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I would much rather you do that, I said. I go,
I'll take the heat for that. Yea, you know, because
I want them to know that they can do that.
And yeah, maybe you judged wrong.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Maybe you you know, you can apologize later.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
That's exactly what it is. Trust your gut.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
And can't You can't stop if someone is trying to
indoctrinate you or teach you something and you, out of
kindness allow them. You can't undo what they have now
planted in your brain.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Well, and what is really I love I love definitions
of words like what does it mean to be kind?
You know? I mean, if you look kindness, it's treating
each person with respect, right, Okay, I want to be kind,
but it doesn't mean that I have to think the
way that you think.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Well, yes, and also okay, I should reciprocate your kindness.
Is it kind that a certain community teacher group is
telling like, let's just say me, for example, your mean
and hateful because you won't oblige my mental disorder. So
now I'm the one that's mean and hateful. I say

(33:30):
that you calling me mean and hateful isn't kind, right,
But yet I'm supposed to reciprocate kindness to you. That's
called rolling over, and that's very very different.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
Well, and people who have gone through a lot. We
talked about this last time, the adversity, what you've gone through.
You're kind of born with one eyebrow up, you know,
you're kind of born with like going, wait a minute.
You know you have a different discernment. Someone that has
had not had to deal with any kind of difficulties
in life and has never built resilience or confidence in
certain areas, they tend to go with the crowd. They

(33:59):
tend to be felt. So that's gen z right now.
I mean, you know, have they had a lot of difficulties, Yes,
they have. They've dealt with different things than we have.
But they haven't been addressed and educated on life skills.
They don't have the skills to navigate quote unquote life today.
And so then where do they get that from their homes?
How strong is that home? Well, obviously we know it's not.

(34:20):
So there's all these layers. It's like these layer effects
that we have to look at these things. And so
when you look at the trans movement, you look at
number one the message social media. I mean, was it
accidental that everyone was locked down in twenty twenty on
TikTok and it blew up in the algorithms? No, it
wasn't by accident, absolutely not. So then you go down
to okay, So then is there a level of I'm curious,

(34:41):
this is weird, And then you start to look your
algorithms are built, they reinforce your narrative, they reinforce your story,
and all of a sudden, that's your identity. And that's
what happens to these kids especially. I have kids that
are fourteen years old that come in, you know, and
the mom and dad were together, and the dad is
extremely passive and the mother then is completely over assertive,
and which I understand it. I get it, and she's

(35:03):
taken on the masculine role. And so then the daughter
sees the dynamics. These kids are wicked smart, so they
see the dynamics and so then she's like, well, I
would rather be with a girl at fourteen. And then
the parent we start talking. I go, but what do
you think? She goes, well, you know, I think she's beautiful.
I go, I think a lot of women are beautiful.
I go, I'm the first person to point out, Oh

(35:24):
my god, she's gorgeous. I go, am I sexually attracted?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Is there an admiration? Yes? So what's the difference? And
we don't have these conversations. And when you're a young girl,
you look at another girl and you think their makes beautiful,
their class, so it's an admiration. But those lines have
been blurred. And then if you don't have a strong
mother and father influence, masculine feminine influence to define those
for you, you get confused. And then, like this particular dad,

(35:49):
he goes, well, I caught her drinking the other day
and I go at fourteen and he goes, well, I
just told her, you know, life is hard, And I'm like, so,
as a father, you didn't put that line in why
because you drink every day? Ah, So that's it's through
us most.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
So it's okay to drown your sorrows this way, even
at fourteen when it's illegal and not allowed and.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I could, but it's socially accepted.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah. And that's and and that's the slippery slope that
we're at. And it's so funny when people say, you know,
you're so radical in your parenting, own your thoughts. I oh, am,
I really, I said, I know. I laugh. I do too,
I do too. But I said to them, I said,
but you know what, I go. If that's the case,
isn't that a good thing to protect your child that way?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Wouldn't you rather be overprotective and know that later they
survived X, Y and Z, Yeah, than to just have
a fourteen year old drinking and going, well, she'll figure it.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Out, because that's a gateway, I mean, from one thing
to the next. And then of course she had it.
She started to have sleepovers, and then it was the
girl that she was attracted to, and then now there
was sexual exchanges and so then and then the parents like,
wait a minute, I go, well, that's my point, it's
much easier to raise healthy kids than repair adults and
sexual trauma, which is what they're doing in the trans movement.
The whole conversation is sexual. So I think people don't understand.

(37:01):
They don't I go this entire the pride flag is sexual.
The conversation of your pronouns is sexual. It's all a
sexual conversation. So I mean the drag queen stuff, all
of it. So you're you are taking the most destructive
trauma and you're intentionally putting it under the guise of kindness, tolerance,
and acceptance. This is going to be difficult and it

(37:22):
is not going to end well for these kids and parents.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
And take long to start seeing the repercussions.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Of this, And I have parents that say, how do
I comback? And then we get in the room and
we start working on what that is because if I
and again, you know, if the warrior doesn't change, the
battle won't be won. So so if you look at
the battle grounds today and you're using old, old skills
to address a new problem, it's not going to be
fixed and we're not going to have solutions. So we

(37:51):
as warriors in this battle, whether we're moms or business
owners or wives or whatever or fathers. We have to
then look at ourselves first and are are we equipped
for this? And if we're not, let's have a conversation
around what that would look like.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, or hire Tracy and she's clearly for it.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I just have such a heart for this family, for
the families and the world and these young kids. I mean,
my husband sometimes he's just like he looks at me,
he goes, it consumes you. I go, you know what
it does. But I'm okay with that.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Well, yeah, go I go.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
As an entrepreneur, yeah, I'll go run headfirst into anything
and just get it done. Kind of like we talked about, like,
no matter what it is, I'm going to get it done.
But when you're looking at a future generation and you're
looking at these beautiful, brilliant minds that are creating beautiful
lives as long as they're left to and led to,
but they're being disrupted and dismantled and completely distracted by

(38:46):
so many nefarious things. And these things are so destructive.
And one of the cool whiteboards that we do on
the whiteboard is is the kids have to identify their
distractions in life and are they destructive or productive. And
it's fun when you see them kind of put them
in the different buckets because they're like, why didn't think
this was that bad? I go, well, how do you
feel when you're done with it? You know? Has it

(39:06):
fed your soul or depleted your soul? You know? Who
are you becoming? You know? And and then we identify for
declarations like what do you want in your life? Well,
I want to be a really good father, and I
want to be a good husband. I want to be
a business owner. I go, okay, then what are you
doing today to create that? Because it happens now and
everyone's lied to gen Z and just teens in general

(39:27):
to say screw around now, have fun, now do go no,
because the habits you're creating now will dictate your adulthood.
And they don't get that message like, oh, he's just
sewing his oats. No, he's not just sewing his oats.
He's creating a complete mindset in the pattern. And so
that's that's why I love these generations. I love these
young kids because it's like, if we can get in

(39:47):
there with some really good language, some good self disciplined
rules and and all these things and go you're not.
It's so funny when people say, well, I don't want
to I don't want to deprive myself of anything I
said of What what are you depriving yourself success, a
healthy mindset, a healthy body, and healthy relationships by saying
no to these things? No is not. No is not.

(40:07):
It's an abundant word because on the other side of
that is a good life.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
And what's the sense of entitlement? Like, I don't know.
I was raised. If I wanted something, I had to
earn it. I had to work for.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Like too much self love, too much reciprocation and having
whatever I wanted would lead to no motivation to actually
have to go out and earn it.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It's like, I mean at eighteen twenty, I remember thinking,
ooh checks and like he thought that the checks could
just get written and it was money turn and had
the first thirty six dollars overdraft fee. You're like, oh, okay,
I have to go back and I have to earn
these things. But this generation just seems like, no, I
deserve this. It's like, okay, what have you done today?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
You know? And you know what's said about that, Lindsay
is that the parents, I think their intention is so good.
They want to do things for their kids if they
perceive they didn't have to their own detriction. Yeah, but
I told myself, I said, but in doing that, you're
taking away their drive, their you're taking away any of
their Why. It's like when when I got my license
and my dad said, hey, you're going to pay for

(41:06):
your car, and he gave us this, like we had
an extra cab truck with a horse trailer. That was
my truck to go to school, right, and and so,
But then and then I look back. Of course, the
distance gives you the beautiful knowledge. And my daughter, my
youngest one, who's nineteen. Now, she's funny because she said
she wanted something the other day and I said, you
know what, even if I hadn't, I wouldn't give you
the money. And she's like, well, I know you wouldn't.

(41:26):
And then like three days later, I know, you know.
Two days later she goes, I know why you wouldn't
because you want me to build it. I go, exactly,
you know. And so but then she's around all these
other young women who are getting one thousand dollars a
week as a stipend from their parents and getting all
this kind of stuff and they have no concept no,
you know. And and so.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Then you're the parents don't understand how badly they're hurting
their child. Because what happens when you finally decide, hey,
I lost my job, I've got to cut you off.
You've raised a child that does not know how to
function in society and buy and work and earn their
own money to anything well.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
And they don't have all that. We're watching it in
our government.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Right.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Businesses fails, government bails them out. I mean, my dad
was a business owner. If there was no money, we
didn't take a paycheck. Our family suffered first because it's
our responsibility. But I saw that firsthand. But now you
see the other way around. So then the kids don't
realize the repercussions or consequences for this. Yeah, and so
part of what we do too is life skills. We
teach them how to manage their money. We bring in speakers,
we bring in people, entrepreneurs to pour into these kids

(42:27):
and these families because they're lacking success skills. I mean,
the girls don't even know how to cook. I mean
I've gone to clients' homes to teach them how to
clean their bathrooms I mean, yeah, I don't want to
do that again.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
By the way, that's off the many.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
But but the thing was is that I saw there
was a lack you know, and so and so, and
I like, during the whole COVID part of it, I
just felt like I was in such triage with these
families and these kids, and and it's like, Okay, God,
I'll jump in, I'll jump in. I want to I
want to be of service. And then and now it's
like shifting after three and a half years of this

(43:01):
and realizing the real crisis in my mind is our
young women. The men. Yes, but I think the men
are getting a lot of good information. I think there's
a lot of good stuff going on for our young men.
Whether they grasp it or not, I don't know, but
the language is there. But the young women, I think
they've so they've so confused feminism and female liberation and
female empowerment and all this other kind of stuff. I'm

(43:23):
gonna pose naked, I go for who it's not for you,
you know, and if it's for you, you want to save
it when you're eighty and looked back and thought, wow,
I looked good. It shouldn't be box right right, And
I understand that. But but the whole thing is is
that there's this language that's based around it's quote unquote empowerment,
this or this feminism versus a feminine force of nature.

(43:44):
Your feminine your feminine energy is the most powerful energy
for a woman. You know, that's your superpower.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
And women, young girls do not realize what a privilege
it is to be able to capture that force of
nature and we can use it to our advantage.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I don't think that.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
I'm not even afraid to say that. There's been many
times I'm like, let me take the car and to
get fixed, because yeah, I'm gonna put my lipstick on
and I'm gonna work my feminine and.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well but that but again, that goes back to a superpower.
You know, it's like, how is it and why do
you think trans why do you think the trans movement is? Again,
women don't get I go. Women are still trying to
be a race.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
It just looks different, Okay, it was. I mean it's
been happening since day one because of our feminine power
that we have. And I was talked to my son
in law the other day and we were talking about
like me as a mom and the girls that I've
raised and the girls that I get to be. I'm
so privileged to coach. And we were talking about this message.
He goes, you know, the worth of a woman, and
I was like, that's that stands for a wow. By

(44:41):
the way, so we wrote this down. I go, the
worth of a woman is really priceless, I said, because
it's a stay at home mom. If you had to
pay for what everything that a woman can do, you know,
between raising children, their emotional care. You know, we've heard
the joking stuff taxi driver or this or that, but
you're nurturing the next generation of life givers, you know,

(45:01):
teaching them sustainable cooking skills, teaching them how to do
these things, how to take care of themselves, how to
meal prep, how to holistically take care of yourself through
natural medicines, these educations that been said. We want we
outsource all the white coats, and so we need to
insource some things for our own families. And that's women's
that's women's that's our role.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
And by the way, I don't know who needs to
hear this. This is satisfying being a mom, being a wife,
having a nice home, not It's not satisfying if other
people see it and appreciate you. It's satisfying when you've
done it, when it's not under a stressful situation, when
you don't feel forced or coerced or stuck. When you

(45:40):
choose to find a good husband and you choose to
have children, Yep, you are ultimately satisfied. I will guarantee
you that girls who make a living on their only
fans are not satisfied enough. That's why they're scrolling and
looking for the NonStop comments of how attractive they like dopamine,
because that's not satisfying. Who cares if a complete stranger

(46:02):
says you've got a great butt?

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Like okay, great, well, of course I do. That's why
I posted exactly Mike.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
They're primarily going against what they're made in that eighteen
to twenty five year old you know, you're made to create,
to be looking for a partner, you know that's that age.
But then enter in birth control and enter in all
the medications that are altering. There's synthetic alterations of your
own DNA and your own biology and your own hormones,
and so a lot of times I have a lot
of young girls who they get off of their adderall

(46:30):
and their you know, lexapro and you know, all the
other kind of stuff and all their birth control, and
then the guy there with They're like, I'm not attracted anymore.
I said, because it was a synthetic connection. And I said,
I go, and that's proven, you know, I said, because
it's changing your hormones. So we're attracted through our hormones
and pheromones, so if they're altered, then the attraction would

(46:50):
be altered. Yeah, so these are conversations at a yacht.
And then that's why I said, gen Z is just
built different because they're they they're going, wait a minute,
this doesn't make any sense. So there's this beauty full window.
I believe that we have that if we're willing to
have these conversations. And I'm not for everyone, and I
pissed people off and I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I mean, I'm you're not doing the job. I would
rather you be angry. But you're thinking, then me regret
not speaking right, because I mean I do. I love
these families and these kids that I get to work with,
because that's our future, you know. I mean, I look
at my girls and they're right in that gen z
And I mean, and my son in law when he
asked this was such a great thing. I don't think

(47:30):
he'll care if I share. But when he was with
my daughter for a while and they broke up, and
she was devastated, you know, and he was devastated too.
But we didn't see him for a while. It was
probably eight or nine months, and then he came back
in the picture, and and and so so this this
daughter is the one that's vaccine injaus. So she's completely bald, eyelash,
his eyebrows, has no hair alopecia. She's twenty, she's she's stunning.

(47:51):
But anyway, and so some of the guys that had
asked her out, they had met her when she had
a wig on, so she shared that she didn't have it,
and they just wouldn't show up. They just left. So
he so, and then she right away thinks, you know,
after having this beautiful relationship with this guy and planning
all these wonderful things, she thought, Okay, he left, you know.
And then so then he shows up again. They start
dating again, getting very serious conversation of engagements and everything.

(48:12):
And I'm just like oof, you know, and then.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Are you worried, like where did he go for eight months?
And will he?

Speaker 3 (48:17):
I was, and so I was worried about that, But
I was also worried about, like her getting married really young,
which which she'd always talked about being a young wife
and a young mom. So I honored that. I was skeptical,
of course, but I honored, especially in today's world, and
I'm like, Okay, this is what you want, this is
what you're built for, this is what you were raised for.
I have to honor that. And so it was funny
because we had this conversation. So the night he took

(48:40):
my husband and I out for dinner to ask us
to marry her, and I of course jumped in and
forgot the masculine inside. I jumped in. I go, wait, wait, wait,
I got a question. I go, why did you leave?
Why did you leave her? And he goes because I
wasn't worthy of marrying your daughter or being a member
of your family. And I was like, I know, you're like.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Of all the answers that could be right, that's the
only thing I.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Was ready to come out swinging right. And so I
was like, going, He's like, suck it exactly, and seriously.
And then I said to him, I said, you know,
I said, my only question is this is that she's
not lived on her own. You know, she's going from
my house to your home, and and she will build
you a beautiful home. I know what she's capable of.
I said, but I just am concerned about that independent

(49:26):
spirit that I want her to also have the strength
of that spirit. And he was so beautiful the way
he explained it. He said, but that's what I don't
want is the world to get there. I want to
build our world. And it was like, okay, I'm behind you, guys,
and so Tom and I agree, yeah, exactly exactly, and
so we did, of course, and then they got married
in the middle of a desert with twelve people. You know,

(49:48):
it was beautiful. But and but then it came down
to he you know, my husband works with the mentors
and on stuff like that. Like some of the other
young men I coach, my husband jumps into and helps
and and so it just kind of came down to this,
you know, this beautiful thing that we talk about, walking
it out in real time and convicted about it. And
they're very faith driven, you know, I mean, they have
a beautiful little boy. And so it came down to

(50:11):
wanting to do things the way that biblically, you know,
we've been talked about and we've seen it in real time,
and it's not going to be without trials and tribulations
and all those things. And then my younger daughter's watching,
you know, which is great. It's a great example, you know,
and they have a beautiful relationship because it was rough
going through life with no hair as a girl in
scott staleers. Oh, it's a whole nother podcast, literally, but.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I mean Scottsdale nonetheless.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Yeah, exactly. But you know, again, it's like you, it
teaches you resilience. Your trials and everything teaches you resilience.
And now she gets to then pay that forward. And
so there's a lot on gen Z's shoulders. I do
believe they're built for the storm. I do believe they're
built different. I do believe the task is on our
shoulders as parents and business leaders and voices to say, Okay,
how can we how can we help?

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah? So you do you counsel parents without their kids?

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Are you able?

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Tokay? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (51:00):
Oh yeah, absolutely, I do a lot of the cool
thing about the parents stepping in, which is very unique.
Most parents look at their kids and go, you're the problem.
Very few parents look in the mirror, No.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
It's you.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Very it was me. I mean it was me. I
mean most parents don't look in the mirror and go, hmm,
I'm contributing right, And so when they do.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Oh, I did raise them this way, so no wonder
they're acting this way. Well.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
My favorite is the dads that are like, my daughter's
a princess, she's this, it's two two tiera's until you're thirteen,
and it's not so cute. Yeah, I go, but you
told her she was up until you got You got
thirteen years to unlearn that behavior. And that's that's a
key word in homes is that we have to unlearn
some things, you know, and sometimes we pivot, We change
our ideals, we change our thoughts, and we should be

(51:46):
able to do that. I mean, if you're not questioning
a lifestyle, you're not evolving.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
It's like I was vegan for a few years, you know.
I mean I was completely raised on a farm, butchering
our own cattle, doing her and then I went vegan
thinking because wow, factory farming is horrible what they're doing. Yeah,
but regenitive farming is great. So that's why it's it's
in a lot of the information I do. But the
thing about that is is that I needed to question
my conviction and that's how I decided to shift, And
so we have to learn to do that otherwise. I mean,

(52:12):
imagine waking up and going your entire life is a lie.
Everything you thought you knew, which is your identity, and
then you're like, but I want to learn, I want
to grow.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
But also imagine waking up every day and going, no,
I think I know everything there is to know. I'm
good like that, living a lot like that's no one
should be thinking that.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
No, it's no possible.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
And that's why I think when parents, when I work
with parents, you know they're open to looking at things
going what could I do better? And that takes humility.
I get it.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
And that's why I think you're going to reach like
with this podcast as parents who are like, I really
don't want my kids to succumb to whatever it is
that I might be accidentally teaching them right, I got
to make sure they are grounded.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Where do I start?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
We have a courageous parenting lecture series that we do.
They can download and it's super cool because there's exercises
in there. It's all experiential because there is no one,
two three step right, there is no X y Z
to get there to parenting. You have to learn to
navigate yourself first as a parent, and then I mean
even before you're a parent, right. I love when I
have young kids that come in that are just married.

(53:12):
How can I want to be a really good parent?
What does that look like? You know? And of course
it changes on the fly, but you know, I love
it when parents come in and they go, I know
something's off and I know that I need to listen better.
I did ten Rules of Kids. I have to send
this to you. I did ten. I interviewed fifteen kids
and I asked them top ten things they need from
their parents.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
It was so awesome to see that.

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Yeah, it was so.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Awesome because you have a to do list.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
You're like, every Carol, give me the new skin or
whatever it is, and then the ten this I need
the courageous parenting always and.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
You always think I'm gonna put it all in this description.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
But it's cool because you realize there's resources, right, Otherwise
I mean years ago, nobody talked about it. You just
continued and perpetuated the stuff in your home, and then
you got out and you were.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Like, oh, you go rent a self help book and
hope that the doctor that wrote it is exactly.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
And that's and that's why I think it's cool about
now is like there. But but I always tell parents
it's experiential. You know, it's like and and my my
favorite thing is like a couple of a psychiatrist or
psychologists who's never had kids, but teach you how to parent,
you know, or you've got you know, a single person
given married advice. I'm sorry, you know you can't. And
so I think that's why it's a beautiful thing where
all the layers that God's placed on me and allowed

(54:24):
me to be in service at this point that I
that I get to then look at these families and go, gosh,
how can I be effective? How can I be in service?
Because I want that communication back. And the thing that's
different about what we do is that when you see
a problem, I don't divide the child out of the home.
I connect the home back together around the child, which

(54:44):
I think a lot of modalities they take the child.
Parents aren't allowed to talk to the therapist, are not
allowed to know what's going on, which which I exactly,
but that's but that is the typical modality of that,
you know. And and so when we look at and
the parents, when they when they do like I do
an eight session battle plan with kids, and so when
they when we get that like halfway through, I'm like, parents,

(55:04):
it's your turn to come in, you know, you need
to hear.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
And then the kids the real problem, which is.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
The well and anything I send the kids. I have
eight different curriculums. We get PDFs supporting on like mental
toughness and resiliency and time management and health and nutrition wellness.
It's all in there. And so then then I shit,
I send whatever the kid gets the parent gets too,
you know. And then I always tell the kids I
will if it's something in confidence, I will encourage you
to tell your parent. I won't, but you need to,

(55:31):
you know. And then if it's something you're not sure of,
let's build you to where you have the skill and
communication to advocate for yourself, you know, because all those
things make a difference. And that's why coaching is very
different than a lot of the modalities, and I invite
I have friends of mine who are therapists and counselors
and I coach some of their kids, and I always
ask my invite you to question your industry because where

(55:51):
does your license stop and your moral start? And I
think that's a question that every industry today has to
ask themselves, you know.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
And by the rules to the point where you're compromising
morals and values.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
And and children. To be honest, yes, it's a huge
it's a huge thing. But I do believe that there's
an opportunity today to do differently and to do better.
And if what we were doing was working, we wouldn't
be here, that's right.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
Oh my gosh, How am I going to cut this
all into amazing Instagram?

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Tell people where they can find you. Your website, like, yes.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
So Tracylmartin dot com is the main website and has
an e in it, trace e y my mom decided
to be difficult, And then officially Tracy Martin is Instagram
and then Raising Greatness radio show on Faith Talk thirteen
sixty is on every Thursday at four and then other
than that, it's just a lot of great information that

(56:44):
they can download our newsletter. We've got like the like
the ten step I told you about the ten things
that kids identified that's on our yep, that's that's in
the bio on the Instagram. It's just great conversation to
question and go, how am I doing?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I mean, that's that's what I want. I want to
look at it now.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
My kids are young and go when they ask, when
they say that they needed this from me, I want
to know that I've already provided it.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Well, you get out ahead of it, you answer the
questions that haven't been asked.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm excited, all right, sharing my
hydro flas. What are we cheersing too?

Speaker 3 (57:14):
We're going to cheers to gen Z in the storm
they're going through cheers.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Cheers.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
And their parents.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
All right, Tracy Rock, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
Thank you for having me. It's awesome. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Thanks for tuning in to the Patriot Barbie podcast. Follow
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(57:52):
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