Spike Proteins in Medications: How Big Pharma is KILLING You

In this episode, I interview Dr. Jen VanDeWater and discuss spike proteins, vaccines, and why big pharma is overmedicating for profit. Tune in and learn how much you should or should not be relying on medication.
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Let's go.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Welcome to the Patriot Barbie Podcast. I'm your host, Lindsey Graham,
author and conservative activist. I love Jesus, I love America.
I'm a proud wife, mom of three, and I'm having
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In twenty twenty, I defied government lockdowns in Oregon, reopened

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starts now. Welcome to the Patriot Barbie Podcast. Get a pen,

(03:01):
get a paper. You are going to write this stuff
down because for the last few months, I have been
speaking about spike proteins, the JAB, what it's done, what
it's doing, and right now I'm being labeled a conspiracy theorist. Shocking, shocking.
So what I did was, instead of trying to follow

(03:21):
the science, myself or go get a medical degree. I
brought in an expert, and what I'm going to do
is chop the heck out of this episode and show
the world that we are not crazy. So today I
have doctor Jen Vanderwater. She is with the Wellness Company,
who I am a proud partner with. If you want

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website for you at Patriot Barbie dot com. So doctor
Jen Vanderwater was a doctor of Pharmacy. She graduated Pharmacy
College in two thousand and six and has worked in
the pharmacy profession since nineteen ninety eight. Like I said, expert,
she began her journey as a pharmacy technician and loving

(04:04):
this line of work, she understood that she would have
a greater impact if she were a qualified pharmacist, so
she changed her college major and graduated Adirondack Community College
in two thousand and one, and after graduating, transferred to
Albany College of Pharmacy became a New York licensed pharmacy intern.
She graduated Albany College of Pharmacy in two thousand and six,
which with a doctorate of Pharmacy and became a licensed

(04:27):
registered practicing pharmacist in the state of Maine from two
thousand and six to two thousand and nine. In two
thousand and nine, doctor Gen became licensed as a registered
pharmacist in the states of Vermont and New York and
has been practicing between both states since leaving the practice
in twenty twenty. Hear that out. Leaving the practice known

(04:47):
as the People's Pharmacist, Doctor Jen spent many years witnessing
the health crisis that has led to today. She has now
partnered with the Wellness Company in May of twenty twenty
two as the VP of Pharmacy. Oh, I can't wait
to dig into this, Doctor Jen. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Thank you, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yes, this is quite an impressive resume. Now I am
just patriot Barbie. So if I talk about spike proteins
and spike support and shedding, people are like, move along,
little girl, move along. You're just a podcaster. But you,
I mean, you are the expert here. So I mean,
where do you want to start with? Either where this
came from or or what it's doing or you know.

(05:29):
The goal here is not to scare people. I mean,
you know that the goal is I tell people, Hey,
if you're on your period, I'm gonna offer you a tampon.
If you have a headache, I'm gonna offer you an aspirin.
This is happening, so I'm offering you something. So what
is shedding? For people who are just literally not paying attention?
What is shedding?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, well, it's definitely something I've started looking back and
questioning if it was something that just occurred now or
has this been something that's been happening for a while.
And I think there's just with our eyes being open
and becoming question you know, questioners of what the narrative is.
I think we're looking back, at least for me, I'm
going back in the past into all my training and

(06:09):
saying is this something that just started or has this
been around for a while. But what we're seeing shedding
is is that those spike proteins, whether it's through breathing
it out, exhaling it, you know, sexual contact, you know,
skin on skin contacts by sweat, that these spike proteins
are being transmitted and transferred from one individual to another

(06:31):
and they wreak havoc. They are they bring up inflammation
in the body. They add stress to the body, oxidative stress.
They are not good, you know. So just when you
think spike, you automatically should think bad, you know. And
if it's a bad a bad protein that causes damage
in the body.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
And so spike proteins. Did this come from just the
what we got to think of a code word, so
we don't get how about the code word is like bow?
I got a bow on my shoulder. Did this come
from the bow? Jab? Or like all jobs? Or has
spike proteins? Can it be found anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yes? So there are proteins on viruses just naturally, right, Okay,
they're there. So in I don't even know if we
could say in this one.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Perfect we all know what you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Okay, well, no, they'll get my lango. Okay, this one
that the spike is there. It's one of the proteins.
And so when someone is just sick, they this was
what enters the cell and replicates, and you know, our
bodies build up a defense and we can break it
down because it's only in specific cells. But with the bow,

(07:41):
when the bow comes along and people say I'm taking this,
that is genetically coated so that these spikes enter all
cells through the lipidanol particle that encapsulates the spike, and
so that's where it's reaking havoc and it crosses the
blood brain barrier, so that again you you know, and
it's causing the body to continue manufacturing these over time.

(08:06):
So it's not like when you get sick and you
know you have it and your body fights it, which
we do see with long haul. Long haul patients have
higher amounts I would say of this of that spike
because their body is reproducing it. But again, our immune
system comes in. We're taking medication. Our body is not
genetically altered. I guess to say to keep manufacturing with

(08:30):
that bow. Your body is now seeing it and it's
making it. It's not it's reading it differently because it's
a genetic modifying injection. That's what's happening here. And so
now your body is constantly making these and the uplook,
so our body has a lot and now it's it's
kind of like my husband describes it like this, and

(08:50):
I think most people will get this Linus from the
cartoon he's around him. Yes, that's the only way I
could Usually we put it for people to see, Okay,
and that's what's happening. We've got this around us, and
so when we come in contact with those who are
not bowed, and those who are, you come in contact

(09:11):
with them, it's you're gonna be getting that. It's gonna
come into your It's gonna happen, You're gonna get into
your body.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Okay. So so a lot of the questions that I've
been seeing online have been can you develop spike pro proteins?
And we're gonna let's go back to calling it the JAB.
So when I share all this content, people are like,
what's a bow? That was so dumb of me? The
job you were doing very well. I was impressed. So

(09:41):
when so people to get the JAB have the linus
fluff of spike proteins. There's two questions that people are asking,
if you got COVID, do you also have spike proteins
that are it's just from the job, right.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, you it is. It is on the virus itself.
So if you've had COVID, yes, but your body, so
in the job, is genetically modified to keep reproducing. When
you just have a sickness, your body naturally comes in
and will it will not stay and keep it's not modified,
so it's not modified to keep reproducing over and over

(10:18):
and over.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
That makes sense, That's makes sense.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
So yeah, So if I had COVID, which you know,
of all the things that I didn't change in my life,
I've never been able to verify if I've even had COVID.
If I had it, I might have spiked proteins, but
then they would sort of dissipate because I had a
VIRS and that went away.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Your immune system can fight.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, okay, So now we've determined that spike proteins exist
and that they exist in people who have gotten that job,
and that they shed onto people who have not gotten
that job, and I hear that they're bad. But what
is it doing? What is it causing?

Speaker 2 (10:56):
So it's the same kind of reaction I guess you
would look at is if you got sick, so your
body has an immune backing now, so now you're seeing
things like headaches, dizziness, some people have increased bruising, you know,
and some people have gotten even sick like so you
actually will come down with something and it could be

(11:17):
a cold, it could be a full blown virus. Again
because people are saying, I've gotten COVID multiple times, Well
is it?

Speaker 1 (11:23):
You know?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
These are some of the questions just having is it
due to that? I know for myself after and I
didn't get it confirmed, but just from what I've heard,
I lost my taste and smell right, So I knew
it was categorized as COVID, but I personally would never
go I don't need to be tested to see if
I have it. I just I just knew. So after that,

(11:44):
I think everyone's like, Oh, you're gonna be fine, You're
going to be immune. Well, I'll tell you I've been.
I have never been more sick since I had COVID.
And then going out in public. Every time I go
out and I'm around people for prolonged amounts of time,
whether I know they are you know or not, I
can end up sick. And I have been pretty sick
at times, and so I needed to know what could

(12:06):
I do to protect myself because these are just things
I noticed, and I think for me, I'm just more aware.
And I don't know, I'm sure your audience is as well,
because they're listening to you, so they're awake, asking questions.
I'm sure they're paying attention to their bodies more than
they probably had in years past. So that's what led
me to even like again going back into the past,

(12:28):
I questioned this idea of shedding because I you know,
obviously as a pharmacist, you know, we work in the
pharmacy and we give out the flu shot every year.
I personally never took the shot, but I worked around
colleagues who every place I've worked you always say, hey,
get your you get it free. You work here, you
get a free shot. I just chose not to. But

(12:48):
it was funny how once those shots started happening, then
the flu arrived. So it just has me questioning was
that something was this shedding phenomenon, something that's been happened
prior to this, we're just now seeing things and paying
attention more and questioning more. Were before we were kind
of just following the narrative, not aware of what was

(13:08):
really happening.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Yeah. I mean, just even as you say that, I
think about my whole life and I'm forty two now,
and how I would go to the doctor who I trusted,
my doctor, and oh, well, while you're here, you want
the flu shot, And I'm like, Chared, give me the
flu shot. I mean it's like it's like someone's offering
you a snack when you're not paying attention. You're like, yeah,
you know what, I'm as well get it. You're my

(13:30):
doctor and you're suggesting it. I did it when I
was pregnant, and now I think it's so wild how
much has changed in three years. And I always use
myself as kind of a baseline because I was the
kind of person that I am trying to reach now,
which is like, wake up, pay attention, and I wasn't.

(13:51):
And I think, yeah, I was like, give me the
flu shot whatever. And now I'm like, don't you touch
me with the needle. I don't trust you anymore. We
have seen it. You can't be trusted. So I have
one more spike protein question, which I'm sure we'll come
back around to, but then I want to dive into
some of your move over to out of big pharma.
Are you saying that if you got COVID that you

(14:15):
are more likely to be susceptible to spike proteins effects
around crowds. Is that a true or false statement?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I don't know. That's just for me. What I've noticed
for myself myself is yes, and I think this is
where people have to individually do a check mark in
their mind and say, Okay, did I have this? Do
I notice this? What's happening? You know? And if they
wanted to, they can come to the Wellness Company and
see one of our providers and ask those questions and

(14:44):
see like, hey, maybe I am more sensitive now that
I've had this. I just know for myself, Yes, I
have never been as sick as I've been in the
last few years. And the only thing I can say
I have not like I've never been on a flu shot.
I have not taken the COVID shot. So it makes
you wonder why is my immune system now a little weaker?

(15:04):
And I'm doing everything I can to keep it strong.
Like now that I'm aware of this, I'm like, Okay,
what can I do for myself to be strong? So
I don't know if that's a scientific you know, yes,
no whenever true false, But I think people just need
to pay attention to their own their own bodies, right.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
And when you say scientific, I know that people don't
know who to trust anymore. I mean I certainly trust
the Wellness Company certainly because of every you know, background
that the background of all the doctors and nurses, as
well as the steps you guys have taken to move
away from big pharma. But you know, I gauge a
lot of my science now on what I'm reading. I

(15:41):
hate this, right, but this is real life what I'm
reading on Instagram, And a lot of people are saying
what you're saying, which is I never got COVID, or
I never got jabbed, or I've never been sick before
and I am always sick now, And a lot of
people are saying that, and there is no reason for
that except for what we've seen change in the last

(16:02):
few years, which is that ninety percent of the country
allegedly went out and got this jab which has all
these chemicals and unnatural things in it which can shed
on to other people. Now, I am so fortunate. I've
never gotten the flu in my life, never I've I've
been sick once that I can think of, where I
was literally bedridden. I think that might have been COVID.

(16:24):
But like you, I refuse to test. I'm like, I'm
not going to be an other number I could have
been like on my deathbed, and I'm like, don't test
me exact Yeah, yeah, you will not use me to
fear monger. So so yeah, I'm I'm fortunate that statistically
I don't have much to say, and honestly, I don't

(16:45):
hang out with a lot of jabbed people obviously, so
but it does stink to think about, Like if you
go to the store and it's crowded, those people are
their their little linus with their blanket flying around and
spreading stuff. So I think people should be paying attention.
I think, honestly, like maybe even journaling, Hey, you know,
what's my health like now? And then I went to

(17:07):
a huge concert and they required the vaccine and what
happened after that. But you know the reason that I've
been I've been promoting the Wellness Company for six months
to a year now, like you guys are on my
radar for a long time, and the reason is because
I have three kids and I no longer trust any doctor.

(17:28):
I mean it started with the masking. I yelled at
a doctor once for trying to mask us, and I
was like, I might not be welcome, but I'm not
coming anyway. How did you? How did you make your exit?
And why? And what was the passion by? What was
was there a final straw? Was the What was the
straw that broke the camel's back that you left what
is probably a very financially sound occupation slash career to

(17:53):
be become the people's pharmacist.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah. Well, first and foremost, I became a pharmacist for
people like I. You know, obviously you read my bio.
In nineteen ninety eight, I was right out of high
school started working as a pharmacy technician, and I just
loved being in the community. I loved being engaged and
having conversation, and it didn't always have to be about

(18:17):
medicine or treatment. Now, I believe there's healing in compassion
and empathy and having a conversation with someone brightening up
their day, bringing their mood back up. I don't think
healing is always a pill, Okay, So for me knowing
that at a young age, I felt that connection to people,
and so that's what put me in the idea of, well,

(18:37):
this is a good paying job, and I love helping
people and I'm not one for needles, so I'll be
a pharmacist and not a medical doctor. And so that's
kind of how that journey began. But what I saw
through the years was so revealing to me of the
actual agenda behind the scenes. Now, I asked people through

(18:57):
my years, and nobody had any answers, and they I
was like you, They thought I was the nut. They're like, okay, Jen,
just do your job, fall in line. But because I
have a heart for others, I just I just could
not do that. And so the things I started to
notice over prescribing. Over prescribing really jumped in just a
few years. And once advertising was on TV for pharmaceuticals,

(19:22):
that's all I would see people coming in for I
want what I saw on TV. I have that that
they mentioned on TV. And it's amazing how by putting
an ad out there, people then automatically think they have
that condition and they need to be treated for it.
So that was the first the first thing I started noticing.
The second thing I started noticing was that the big

(19:44):
heads in the companies I worked for pushed and pushed
us to fill prescriptions. Well, you can only fill prescriptions
if a patient arrives with one. And so one of
the eye opening moments for me when my boss threw
papers on the counter at me, said hey, Jen, you
need to get your numbers up, and I said, what
do you want me to do make people sick, And

(20:05):
as that rolled off my tongue, I'm like, wait a minute,
But it just kind of it was like one of
those moments, and I really look back and I call
them like God moments, these moments where things were revealed
to me that I didn't know at the time until
today looking back and reflecting, he was pointing me to
things I just never knew. So I was never your

(20:27):
typical pharmacy, I know, he do. I was never your
typical pharmacist that was there to follow the guidelines or protocols,
and I actually went against the system the whole time.
One of the things that people don't know about that
takes place in a pharmacy is called medication therapy management,
and this comes through the insurance companies. The insurance companies

(20:51):
reach out to the pharmacy and they're looking through someone's
profile and they'll say, hey, you know you're patient. We
have a diagnosis of them having diabetes and they're not
on a cholesterol medication. You need to get them on
a cholesterol medication. They send you a nice, pretty fact
to send to the doctor and the doctor just signs
off on it and you get it back and you

(21:11):
fill this medication for the patient. The problem is so
the pharmacy will get paid money for every time they
fill a recommended therapy based off of this medication therapy management.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Oh, so, Jen, this is how you could get your
numbers up.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Facts twenty over, get twenty back. We had a success
day of medicating people, and.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
The provider is thinking that we've done our due diligence.
Asking for a medication for a patient. I've had some
say no, but most just sign off and say yeah,
go ahead, add another, add another to their And people
would come in and when they ask, oh I didn't
ask for this, well your doctor wrote it, and they
just blindly just go okay. The doctor must you know
think So I was the opposite of that. I never

(21:58):
agreed to patient being put on more medication. I actually
took the patients aside and would whisper to them, Hey,
this is what's happening. I need you to do me
a favor. Go to your doctor's office and see if
there's a way you can let them know to because
these would keep coming through until we agree to it.
You know, talk about pressure. So I said, go back

(22:20):
and let them know. This is happening, and you do
not want to go on this medication because I would
see patients that had they didn't have high cholesterol, So
why are we putting them on a permit apper manage
to yeah, to stop them from getting high cholesterol just
because they were a diabetic patient. I mean, that's this
is what nobody realizes. This is happening behind the scenes.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
This is insane. It's insane. It is I'm trying to think, like,
I'm forty two. Eventually I'm probably gonna get claw homa
and maybe high blood pressure and maybe like my thirodal scrip.
So it's like, let's go on these three medications so
that that doesn't ever happen. And I'm like, but also,
what if I work out and eat right, wouldn't I
just maybe never get those But wow, Yeah, I gotta

(23:06):
tell you. I've told this story before I was twenty
five years old. I had inflammation in my knee that
was almost unlivable. I couldn't even squat my I was
limping most of the time. Twenty five young and went
to the doctor. He asked me, does this, this, this, this?
And I answered no to all of them except for
one question, and he goes sounds like you have a arthritis,

(23:28):
rheumatoid arthritis. And I was like, answered no to most
of those questions, but okay, so he referred me to
a rheumatoid arthritis, same thing. Do you have this this?

Speaker 3 (23:36):
This?

Speaker 1 (23:36):
No, no, no, oh, but you have this well, you know,
let's try this medication just in case it sounds like
you have arthritis. I'm like at twenty five, so I
asked him more questions, which some people don't. Turns out
I was gonna be on this pill the rest of
my life, and it's hard on the liver, so you
can't drink alcohol, and I'm like, I love wine. For

(23:58):
twenty five alcohol, I took those pills. I never took
a single pill, and long story short, later down the
road it was something else. It fixed itself. Actually, probably
God healed me. Yeah, And I thought, I think to myself,
I would be on that pill right now for twenty
years almost and still be on it for the rest
and that job security, financial security. And you were going

(24:21):
to ruin my life at twenty five for a.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Blood pill, lindsay, yeah, one pill will turn into.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Five yes, because it would have caused liver damage. Now
you need a medication for liver, well, that's harming your
blood pressure, so now you need a blood pressure And
I think people in America don't understand. I think they
really don't understand. When you watch those crazy commercials that
are like, do you have leaky bladder? Could cause heart attack, swelling, amnesia, hunger, diarrhea,

(24:49):
You're like, hold on a second, that all sounds worse
than just a leaky bladder. Yeah, listen to those Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
And it's intentional. They cause those You want a custom
for life? How do you make a customer for life?
How do you make someone keep coming back? You keep creating?
Like again, when I said, do you want me to
make people sick, that's exactly what's happening behind the scenes.
It's exactly it. It's we are not set up here,
and we always are bragged about America and the healthcare

(25:17):
in America. We are not set up putting people first.
We are set up putting the big industry first, profit
over care. And it did not resonate with me. It
did not resonate with me, and for me, the turning
point was when I realized I was not helping people
behind the counter. I realized, as I'm still dispensing medication,
trying to trying to make headway. People were so caught

(25:40):
up into this idea that I need this pill I need,
but I need the pills. The doctor says, I need it.
Why are you telling me? I don't you know? So
I knew that I had to somehow get in between
the time the patient would see the provider and get
a prescription. I didn't want people to start a new medication.
I figured if I can stop them from starting, maybe

(26:00):
that would help, and maybe I can help them balance
their life with lifestyle changes, right, because that, like you say,
with your need, there's so many things that could change
instead of just resorting to a pill. It should not
be first line therapy. I guess it should not be
first line. So I was at the end of twenty
nineteen talking to a doctor's office saying, do you need
a pharmacist on staff? I want to work alongside the

(26:23):
providers and help guide them in medication therapy management. And
they said yes, they said we'd love to have you.
So January of twenty twenty, I put my notice in
working as a retail dispensing pharmacist and I was also
long term care pharmacist to going into this doctor's office.
But then in March, everything happened. Oh yeah, everything happened.

(26:44):
My life completely changed. Course that job was terminated. I
was on the sidelines watching everything roll out. I did
not feel in my gut to walk back into a
pharmacy because I knew I was. You know, it's one
of those things you don't God does it ever want
you to go backwards. I want you to always go forward.
So even though I needed a job right I was,
I had no income. I just could not, in good

(27:06):
faith go back where I knew I wasn't going to
be of help to people. It's not just about the income.
So I just said, all right, whatever you ask, I'm here.
However you want to open doors, Yes, he just started
opening doors, and one of those doors was the wellness company.
I got a call early on saying, hey, I know
you're you're a fighter. It was actually doctor Heather Gesling,

(27:29):
a really good friend of mine. She reached out to
me and said, I'm meeting with these people. I want
you on the team. And I said, well, what am I?
I said, I'm a pharmacist. I said, how am I gonna?
We need a warrior like you? So I said I'll
be there, and so that's how I entered. And I
really believe, honestly it was walking by faith. Yeah, because

(27:50):
turned around and went back into the industry. That was
honestly heartbreaking to see what was happening. And I always
laugh at how when you say God works and mystay ways.
I was trying to fit in locally. I was trying
to find a way to do things on a smaller level.
And because I guess, I asked him, I said, what
do you want me to do? He really pulled me

(28:11):
out of a local job and called me to be nationally.
So I'm going to work alongside the best. I don't done.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, I don't think people understand you know how powerful
a story like yours is, where we think so small
and we have goals that are so small, and when
you give it to God and say, if you've really
prepared me for something, put me where you need me,
and He's like, oh, girl, you're going so much higher
than what you're thinking. That's just it's just incredible. A
couple of questions that came to mind. And it's so

(28:39):
funny because I was the question I was writing down,
but you were already answering it was is big pharma
a business? And you were saying it's about profit over health?
And another thing that I really want to touch on
is I want you to tell people about the program.
The I can't think of what it's called right now,
freedom from Pharma? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Yeah, tell people about that because at the end of that,
I want you to to and this is going to
be an incredible SoundBite, how do you know when you're
being over met overly medicated because some people think, well
my doctor said I need this, well I need this,
well I need this. I know people that are taking
way too many medications, And I'm going, are you sure.
I mean, I'm not a doctor, but are you sure?

(29:21):
So from a doctor's mouth, what is your freedom from pharmah?
How does it work? How do they join? And then
how can people tell, like if they're a candidate.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah, I'm happy to share because freedom from pharma. I
am liberated. So I want to liberate others. I want
them to say they can own their own health and
live in health sovereignty. And that's really what freedom from
Pharma is. And it's a journey, like it didn't take people,
you know, two months to get on ten medications. It's
a prolonged you know, you know, years and years and

(29:53):
years of that happening, and so to come into a program,
it's the beginning steps are small. Okay, let's walk through
what are the medical conditions you're told you have, right,
because sometimes they are caused by the medications. Sometimes they're
caused by lifestyle choices. So let's walk through and see

(30:13):
what you're told your medical conditions are. Okay, now let's
look through the medications you're on it. And the best
part of this is who's helping the patients become free
or other wellness pharmacists like myself. So how about a
kick to big farmer right there? You know, it's like, yeah, exactly.
These are pharmacists like myself who saw that the industry

(30:36):
was not looking out for people and are the reason
we became pharmacists were to help. So you come in,
you meet with the pharmacist, you go over these basic,
you know, low level questions, and then from there it's like, Okay,
let's try a supplement, or let's try lifestyle changes. Let's
try nutritional changes. Small steps, and then once the individual

(30:59):
feels that they are capable to then meet with the
provider and discuss their medications and start to taper. Then
that can happen, But a lot of times it's not
a few months. This is a journey. This is time,
This is you know, deep conversations with these pharmacists and
going over anything you can think of as to what

(31:20):
made you start this medication? How did you get from here?
Like you're saying a twenty five year old with just
a knee injury to now maybe someone in their forties
that's now on five or six different medication. It's really
layers and it's going through and it's it's a really
it's really good. We've had a few people come in
already who were not on a lot of medications but

(31:40):
just said I want to start to come off of these.
We've had about fifteen people now graduate. So for just
a you know, of having this program, some have come
in and said, I just want reassurance to know I'm
doing the right things. Can you just help me know
because I have I don't know who to trust and
I trust you guys at the wellness company. Yeah, And
a few come in just needed that reassurance. Some people

(32:02):
just want to know what really a diet should look
like because they don't trust the guidelines that are being
put out there now, so they're looking to say, what
should I eat? Is it okay to have this? You know?
So we have a few like that, and there are
patients we are working on right now who are coming
off of these toxic medications that they've been using for

(32:22):
years and it numbs them to life. That's the sad
part of this, yea. They are so disconnected, they have
no idea what's happening around them, and they're just covering
something that happened in their life at one time, just
because they didn't know how to deal and not only
not know how to deal with it, you're taught that
to feel a negative emotion is wrong, right human, and

(32:46):
you have to work through that. It's not wrong or bad.
It's okay. It's okay to have a moment of sadness,
it's okay to have anxiety and a struggle at a time.
But what's not okay is to pretend it's not real,
you know, mask it, because then you're harboring a disease
somewhere in your body. So that's what freedom from a

(33:06):
farmer we're trying to liberate people give them back ownership
over their own health. These are their choices, these are
their health goals, and over time they can start deprescribing
one by one, one at a time of the unnecessary medications.
I mean, you probably hear this, and I believe this.
Not all pharmaceuticals are bad. If that we would to

(33:27):
have ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. They're not bad. And due to
some choices people have made, they need to be on
some blood pressure medications and some heart medications. Those are
very necessary. But there are medications that people can come
in ask and seek guidance, and we will help them

(33:48):
figure out those medications that they can come off of.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Right. And you know what I think people need to
understand and realize is that I believe that we are
living in such a harm and anti spiritual culture where
joy does not oversease happiness. People are looking for quick happiness, right,

(34:11):
And it's almost like doctors have said, well this will
fix this, Okay, Well then I'll be happy and you're
taking it. Something else is going on, Okay, well I
need everything to be perfect, so I'll take this medication too,
and then I'll be happy. And the chemical balance imbalance
that that creates. Now they don't even know what their
normal is. They don't even know what baseline is because
they're so overly medicated. And I believe that what you're

(34:34):
offering really is true freedom in knowing. You know, when
you wake up in the morning, you don't immediately pump
your body full of chemicals to the point where is
what I'm feeling normal? Is this pain normal? Is this
bloating normal?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
You know?

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Like you know, I know when I wake up in
the morning, I've had one cup of coffee. That's my alteration.
Like whatever I'm feeling is normal, and there's nothing messing
with my body. I'm trying to go like full toxic
free everything. So what are the symptoms? Are there symptoms
or is it just what do you think? What if
someone says, well, I'm only on two medications, no big deal.

(35:12):
Are there certain medications that we're looking for for people
to try to get off of or is it a
symptom or is it Hey, have you noticed that you've
upped your pill intake at once a year consistently? How
do people who hear what you're saying go, I think
I should call.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, And definitely, even if you're on one or two.
Those one or two could be some of the most
toxic ones that you could just stop immediately, and you're
not going to know until you actually speak to someone
who can guide you along that way. And then secondly,
you know what, if those doses are extremely high and
through lifestyle changes you don't have to be on such

(35:49):
a high dose, you can actually come down and not
take as much and that's actually beneficial for you in
the long run too. So it's not so much always
about the number of metations. And then and you're right,
if you look back people again, reflect back and look
through your your own health journey and say, you know what, Yeah,
I think the doctor did prescribe this, and then prescribe that,

(36:10):
and then I took this, and I'm using over the counters.
That's another one too, that's really important for people to
realize are you adding to your medication regimen over the
counter therapies that could be altering and affecting things that
are causing you to be on prescription medications. I mean,
we know with some of the pain medication like ibuprofen,

(36:32):
it really affects the GI system and has an effect
on the absorption of nutrients through the gut, and so
then you go to the provider, and the provider says, oh,
you've got a gi issue, let's throw you on prilosec.
Prilosec's going to make it so much worse. Like again,
now you're even decreasing more nutrients being processed in the
body and absorbed in the gut, and you're decreasing the

(36:54):
acid in your gut, which causes other problems down the
road that are going to lead to again another medication.
So something as simple as an over the counter, you know,
medication that you just go in and buy and say,
I'm just going to use this for pain, can also
cause damage down the road. So there's so many layers
to this. I just think if someone is hearing this
for the first time and they're questioning, saying, you know,

(37:17):
I just want to know come in and have a
consult with these pharmacists. Their names are Melissa and Sue.
Sweet as anything. They are just loving helping people. And
every time we have a good story, I can get
teared up saying this, we share it and it encourages
us because we're actually doing what we could have never done.
Making our way through pharmacy college and becoming pharmacists. We're

(37:39):
actually seeing people recover and live in wellness and own
their own health. And there's nothing more empowering than knowing
you've helped somebody else.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Absolutely, And when I have ever needed medication, I have
walked into what's I lived in Oregon forever. I don't
know where Kaiser Permanente is if it's just an organ,
but I'd walk into Kaiser permanent de and some random
person who is a sloth and looks like they're just
daydreaming all day, hands me the bag, reads my whatever

(38:08):
they got to read me, hands it over. I'm just
another blip on their radar, and they're just another blip
on my radar. And does that person really know what's
going on with my body? Nope, here's your medication twenty
nine to ninety nine. Have a great day. You just
said Melissa and Sue Like people know that if they
go sign up, they're going to talk to Melissa or Sue,

(38:31):
not doctor Frankenberg, and then someone different the next time,
and someone different the next time. And are you guys
communicating And did you tell him this? Well, did you
tell her this or did you write it down? It's like, Hi,
Melissa remember me. Yes, of course I remember you, lindsay,
we have your chart. I'm the same person that you're
working with every single time. I remember what you've said
like that, that treatment alone, that service alone is so

(38:54):
far from what anyone in America is experiencing with Big Pharma.
And I mean, so when you say come see most
and soon, you guys are are you exclusively virtual right now?

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yep? Okay, So anyone in America can go to TWC
dot health slash Patriot Barbie and sign up to what
is it? It's a monthly membership. You guys do not
do insurance which writes really good news. Yes, they make
you jump through hoops to get anything done. What does
it look like to be a member of the wellness company?

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Sure? We just launched actually our new membership which is
called One Wellness. And the great thing about One Wellness
is it's kind of leading us to where we really
saw saw the need for us is more a primary
care outlet because we really weren't set up originally, and
as we've been going, we can kind of mold and
shape ourselves to fit that that need, that need that

(39:53):
people have been asking us for so under the one
wellness membership is freedom from pharma. And with the freedom
from you'll have unlimited consults with your wellness pharmacist again
Melissa or Sue, and then you also have unlimited consults
with whoever the provider is in your state. Now, the
great thing about us is we're just doing a consult.
You know, we're not. We can't prescribe. Pharmacists can't prescribe,

(40:16):
but we can do consults, so we service the entire state.
They're just those two ladies. I have one patient because
when we first started this, it was just me. So
the minute we launched this, I had a patient, and
because I care about each individual, I wasn't gonna let
her go. I'm like, no, I'm going to stay as
your wellness pharmacist and we'll work through whatever we need
to work through. So the two of those ladies, though,

(40:36):
I have been taking on everybody else across the nation.
And then we have a list of providers across the
nation who then can see that patient in that patient state,
and that provider will be there there, you know, whether
it's a doctor, a nurse practitioner, a physician's assistant, that
will be their provider for their whole journey as well,
unless you know they're no longer available or with us.

(40:58):
But everything we want to start, we wanted to be
with that same person so that this way it's a
relationship and you don't have to explain yourself because I'm
sure you've run into this too. You have to play
yourselves over and over and over again and different people.
So we want to have it where it's the same.
And what I love about this too, and you probably
saw this in the height of everything with COVID, there

(41:20):
was a division between pharmacist and doctor. And I am
happy to say at the Wellness Company, we believe in
continuity of care. We know it's a team effort. It
is communication between the pharmacist and the provider, provider back
to the pharmacist and then including the patient. This is
not one person's going to get it all right and

(41:41):
do it right. We're working as a team. So that's
what I love too. Because I saw that division happening,
I couldn't believe what I was seeing, and so it's
nice to know that we can count on each other
and work with each other for the betterment of the
people our patients.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Absolutely, so the doctors that you guys are signing up
across the nation. Are those going to be in person doctors? Well,
I mean I know that the chance of me. Yeah, okay,
but right now they are they are state by state
virtual doctor. Well correct, virtue, Okay, I think I mean,
I think that's amazing. People hate going to the doctor anyway.

(42:16):
And you go to the doctor for a twelve o'clock
appointment and you sit there till one o'clock and I'm like,
this is an all day thing.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
So you don't have to get all like get yourself
all ready, you know, to go out to the office.
You can just stay in you're whatever, you're comfortable clothes
and have I mean have the appointment and you're still visual.
So if there's something you say, I've got a rash
or can you check something there's you can still see
so they can actually look and say, okay, I can
tell by looking at you this, this and this. So

(42:44):
everything is done, you know, virtually, like we are here
on the screen, so they're still able to see and
connect and work through any problem. And you get to
see the face. I think that's really important. It shouldn't
just be a phone call. I believe you can read
things by having a conversation like this. So I really
encourage people to do the actual video virtual appointment.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Awesome so they can join the One Wellness program. And
then under that is appointments, you guys do supplements and
vitamins and the Spike support and freedom from pharma. So
if you're a member of the One Wellness, you pretty
much are like in.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
All, get it all yet unlimited supplements, unlimited care. I
mean it's everything. Yes, for two hundred dollars a month,
you are covered for anything and everything except labs. Labs
are not in our network. They're not, but they're at cost. Yeah,
if a patient is a lab, but everything's included. Under that,
we just launched it. And under that is where freedom

(43:42):
from pharma lives. But freedom from pharma somebody wants, say,
someone just wanting reassurance, that's listening. One of your guests
is listening, and they say, you know what, I really
just want to know if I'm doing this right. I
don't really want to pay for a whole membership for
a whole month. We do have individual visits that can
be said as well, where it's a fifteen minute consult

(44:02):
with one of the Wellness pharmacists and they will say
you know what, yeah, and maybe after that appointment you'll say,
you know what, I really want to continue this journey.
I'll now become a member and now stay in this.
But we have that option for people because we know
that not everybody is going to need to be coming
off of medications and some people just again want to

(44:23):
just ask a few questions and know they're on the
right track and maybe come back in three months. Why
have a monthly membership if you're going to come back
in three months. But there are people who need to
be seen a couple times a month to still work
through everything that they're doing and making sure they're staying
healthy and making the right choices.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah. I mean we are a family of five and
we are we're business owners, so we never have just insurance.
Typically that's like a third of the price of just insurance,
and insurance doesn't give you anything. It still nickel and
when you go to an actual doctor. So now you're

(45:03):
talking about I'm paying five hundred dollars a month and
that's generous, yeah, for insurance to cover me. So that
when I go see a doctor I don't trust who's
probably going to prescribe me something I don't need. You
only cover part of it, Like it's kind of a
no brainer. That's amazing, it is.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
It's a great deal. It really is a great deal.
I'm really glad we've you know, because what we had
before too, is we had the packages. We had long,
long COVID and adverse reaction, and people were you know,
we we were listening to the people, right, we're pivoting
to what the people are saying they need. The packages
were great, except some people are like, well I don't
really need all those labs. Well I really don't need

(45:43):
these number of visits. I could use more. And so
trying to figure out how do we answer to the people,
because that's where we really genuinely want to help, So
we took in everything they said. Those options are still available,
but now they're available as unlimited under the one Wellness membership.
So if someone is suffering long COVID, they can come

(46:04):
in and they can have as many appointments as they need.
If someone comes in and they have adverse reaction and
they're concerned, and then the provider doesn't have to stick
to this lab panel, they can say, well, you've already
had a d dimer and you've already had epstein bar.
We'll just do other ones. We'll do other things, like
there's a way to then now work not boxing them in.
And it's funny because you come in with the mindset

(46:27):
you don't want to do that, but we're so trained
and programmed to have everything fit in a box. We
come out of medical college, pharmacy college, even business, and
now you're trying to formulate something. It's actually such a
good feeling right now because we're breaking that that like, no,
we're not doing that. We were trying to still fit
into something which isn't what the people want and isn't

(46:50):
helping our providers. So now it's like those walls are
gone and now it's here is unlimited care, and this
is what you guys need and we're excited to bring that.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Yeah, the unlimited care, I mean that alone, if you
didn't believe that you guys were doing this for the
right reasons, that alone proves you're not trying to get
an extra buck per appointment or an extra buck for
this extra service. It's like, we want to take care
of you, and when you are a member, we will
take care of you at all costs. I think that's

(47:19):
just amazing. So is Spike support under there too, to
your I guess I would assume, yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Yes, unlimited supplements. Spike support is there. I mean, we
didn't really get into Spike support, but that is amazing.
And I mentioned to you earlier I would get sick
every time I would go out. I got the Spike support.
I've been great since, been great since.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
No, this is so weird. How long have you been
on it?

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Probably two months? I think I've been on it for
two weeks, okay. And I had a fly to go
to an event, and I was super nervous because I
was like, oh my gosh, you know, I got to
be around I don't know who I'm sitting next to you.
And I was just so scared because every time I
would fly, it could be small, it could be great.
Who knew what was going to happen. And I flew
got back and I've had nothing nothing, Oh my gosh.

(48:08):
And that has not happened. That has not happened to
me at all. And the other thing, I don't know
if you touch on this, but the women's cycles have
been interrupted. So for me too, if I would go
out and be exposed for a long amount of time,
I would notice that next cycle, especially if it was
really close to my exposure, was messed up. So this

(48:28):
last time it was very close, no issue, no issue.
I was like, this is great, this is fantastic, because
I've had a lot of women come to me and say,
I'm having problems. You know, it's really heavy, there's clotting,
there's you know, metal palls. Of women were saying they
were starting to have you know, issues again. So I

(48:50):
for me, I'm speaking from my own experience. I'm using
it and I'm seeing amazing benefits and it's exciting. It's
exciting to know I took part in putting this together
and now I can and it's helping me. So that's
really cool.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
So so men and women women we know are experiencing,
I mean, honestly, the irregular menstrual cycles, that's that's just
not even a big deal because some women are actually
miscarrying and giving birth to stillborn's from this crap. And
studies do show that like the amount of babies born

(49:23):
stillborn has like gone up one thousand percent or something
in the last two years. But that's just heartbreaking. But
for men and women who are listening to this and think, Okay, well,
I'm still skeptical. I'm still sure you guys are conspiracy theorists.
Like what kind of symptoms could normal people be looking
at to decide? Should I at least just try this
a month? Like what are what are we looking for?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah? I mean if you go out and you notice
your dizzy, you notice maybe you have a headache, tired, fatigue,
you know, any anything outside of again your normal. If
you notice you go out and you come home and
you're like, hmm, you know something's not right. I'm not
feeling the same even into the next day, try the
SPIKE support. And I also want to say add the

(50:06):
MITO the MITO support with the SPIKE support, because a
lot of times the mitochondria are the powerhouse of our cell,
and when we are inundated with SPIKE, it affects that.
So it's really important. I recommend both together, especially if
you have extreme fatigue, feel like, you know, sluggish, can't
get out of bed, don't feel motivated. Try those two

(50:26):
together and then try it for a month. See how
you feel, see how you know you're noticing any difference.
And again, I love your idea of journaling. People should
be journaling this way. They can look back because you
can't remember everything, and then they can look back and
read the things they were going through and where they're
at today, and then they can for themselves, you know,

(50:47):
kind of analyze their own conspiracy, you know, like they
can look through it and say, hey, it's not really
a conspiracy. This this is how I'm feeling, and I'm
much better. I would not have known unless I tried
it myself. I could tell you all day long, the
scientific fact. We know the ingredients in here, We know
what we have inhibiting and neutralizing spike. We know we
have you know, the natokinase is a huge one. Everybody's

(51:11):
talking about. It degrades and decomposes the spike protein. You know,
we have things for inflammation. So I can say that
all day long and using it and experiencing for myself,
I'm like, I'm just so excited now because I it
gives me back the confidence to not go out and
feel like, Okay, what's going to happen this time? You know,

(51:32):
trying to bump up my vitamin D. You know all
the things I do have ncetyl cysteine, everything I have,
I've been taking and it wasn't cutting it. Now with
this supplement, the spike support. And I still took my
vitamin D and my nictyl systeine, but I added to it,
and I was amazed. And because I'm not injected, I

(51:53):
don't I didn't take it like I took it initially
for a month and then I now use it as needed,
so I know when I'm going to go out, I
know to take this a few days before my entire
trip away, and then the few days after I get home,
just in case those lingering spikes are around. I don't
want them doing any damage.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Okay, that's so good. That's good information too. Some people think, wait, now,
we just talked about how we're not getting on meds
the rest of our life, and now take this med.
But this is not a med. This is a supplement, right,
and everything is natural in it. Yeah, and you're saying
it's not an every day take the rest of your
life because a lot of people did wonder. So you know,
let's say, for example, my family members when in my

(52:32):
house got jobbed. Now I got to take this the
rest of my life. Do they ever stop? Like you
said earlier, they never stop shedding right because it reproduces
so but my so I guess that being said, if
you live with someone that got it, you may need
this more than others.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
But for people like me who rarely spend time around
jobbed people, I would just need it if I was
going to go on a plane or go on vacation
or be around somebody that I know got the job.
And that makes it more affordable too. So this is
not a hey, you're gonna have to buy this the
rest of your life fear factor. You know, this is
a supplement. This is safe, this is natural. It is

(53:10):
not going to cause side effects that make you need
to be on other supplements. This is just like literally
the same analogy. If you have a headache, you know,
I'd give you an ask for and if you're on
your period, I'd give you a champon. If you're going
to be around jobbed people, you are being shut on.
So this is something that can support and protect you.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Correct. Yeah, that's exactly it. I think it's important for
people to realize that I don't want to exchange the
big pharma pill for the nutraceutical pill at all means,
but I do want to say we are lacking in
our food. Our food is no longer full of the
nutrients it once was. You know, we are being sprayed on,
you know, we have every we we are being toxified,

(53:51):
so we are not getting from our food what we
need for nourishment. So supplements, We're going to need certain
supplements to stay healthy. That's just now a fact of life.
So there are like I have to take vitamin D
every day. I live in the Northeast. In the summer,
I lower my dose because I spend a lot of
time out in the natural sunlight to get it naturally.

(54:13):
But during these months where I'm kind of unable to
do so, I know I've got to bump it up
and take more. And so it's it is kind of
when those things where each individual has to look internally
look at themselves and say, okay, what do I need
or if they're they're unsure and they need guidance. That's
where the wellness company comes from. They can work with

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that individual patient through their own health journey to say okay,
these are your you know, mandatory supplements you're going to
need because you're not going to get it from your diet.
You're not going to get it from natural sunlight. So here,
let's figure out what you do need to take daily,
and here are these as needed, and here are these
you don't ever need. And that's the best way to
figure it out, to work through that.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Amazing. All right, this has been like a wealth of
great information. You're the only doctor I probably ever want
to talk to again.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
So oh no, we got a whole bunch of good
ones at the Wellness.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Well I know. Yeah, I'll talk to Melissa or soo. Yes,
all right. So the link again for anyone that wants
to check out the Wellness Company is TWC dot health
slash Patriot Barbie jen. Is there anywhere that you want
to share that people can follow you privately or message
you for any socials? Sure?

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Yeah, I do have a bunch that I've never had
social media until I joined the Wellness Company, So it crazy,
it's crazy. So I have a whole bunch of accounts
that you can find me on with the Wellness Company.
So I have a Twitter, gab Getter, Truth Social whatever,
I have those. But I have a Telegram that I
started way before my Wellness Company days because I wanted

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to be a voice of hope and encouragement. I kept
seeing everybody was just replaying the same old sound bites,
and I felt this overwhelming urge that I had to
just speak truth to people and in a loving way
and point them to natural ways to stay healthy. And
so I have a telegram that is private, that is me.
I post about my chickens and my dog and hiking

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and some natrol things. And that's at doctor vander Water.
So you can follow the Wellness Company once to know
any updates coming from the Wellness Company, and I really
recommend you do. And then if you want to know
what's going out with me personally, you can find me
on telegram.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Awesome, all right, And then last thing is our cheers
and are you ready for it?

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So I gotta tell you, lindsay You're gonna love this.
I was told about this by Kate. So I drink
water almost all the time all the time, and I
have lemon water today. But I also made a cup
of tea because we harvest our own chaga here in
the Northeast where I live, so we made a tincture
out of it. So I want to say I brought
my tea with chaga. But I'm a girl that likes

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to have fun. So I also a little, a little
mixed drink here for you. It's so this is it
a white Russian It's almost it's banana cream rum from
Kenny Chesney with some heavy cream. So yeah, and alone
not healthy, but I wanted to bring these along to
show you.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
So I love it. And that's what we call balance, right,
that's what we call balance. I like wine, but I
also drink water all day too. Yeah all right, So
what are we cheersing to, my dear.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
Loose cheers to health, good health, for the for the people.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Love it. I also love that you went with your
alcoholic coverage.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
It's not watered down. It's been sitting here for what
I will.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I'm glad you didn't. I'm glad you didn't drink it
along the podcast and then just start getting.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Like, you know, yeah, that would have been well.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Doctor Jen, thank you so much for I mean, really honestly,
for leaving everything behind, for walking away, for trusting God,
and for being the esther in the pharmacy area of
this time. And I believe that you're going to save
a lot of lives and change a lot of lives.
And I'm personally so honored to just be partnered with

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you guys, and to be spreading a word that doesn't
feed big pharma, doesn't feed big government, doesn't want to
hurt and harm people, that really, truly wants to take
care of people. So thank you for your time and
for what you're doing with the Wellness Company, and I'm
sure I'll be seeing plenty more of you.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
I can't wait. Thank you, Lindsey.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Thanks for tuning in to the Patriot Barbie podcast. Follow
me on truth social at the Patriot Barbie and Instagram
at the dot Patriot dot Barbie. Subscribe, leave a review,
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this show, my book targeted, and my apparel line on www.
Dot Patriot Barbie dot com. God Bless America and God

(58:46):
Bless you.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
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