August 6, 2025 • 29 mins
Allegations that employees in the Lt. Governor's Office were sharing artificial intelligence pornography of a state lawmaker's wife has turned the statehouse upside down. Veteran journalist Tom Lobianco has reported State Representative Craig Haggard's wife was the victim. Lt. Governor Micah Beckwith has denied the allegations and claimed he investigated and cleared the employees. With law enforcement apparently now involved, Rob Kendall, Jim Merritt and Abdul-Hakim Shabazz explore one of the most bizarre stories to ever hit Indiana politics and government.
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Rob Kendall, Jim Merritt, Abdula Keeping Shabaz. The program of
State House Happening is your weekly look at what's going
on with Indiana politics and government. Before we begin in
the show, let's mean the award winning panel. You know
him from thirty years in the Indiana Senate, the Great
Jim Merritt. Hello, Robert, and you know him as the
owner and operator of Indiepolitics Dot org A Duela keeps Shabaz.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hello, if I'm gonnaquot Charlton Hesse for the classic film
Planet Apes, It's a madhouse, It's a mad House.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Remember that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Remember when we were like, well, sessions over, it's gonna
be really hard to find things to talk about all
summer long.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
The summer's been better than the session.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
It's Abdul. You were hoping for calm.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
He's never hoping for calm. He would go out of
business if they were called.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
My blood pressure is always hoping for calm. Yes, so
I know. I was how to increase my dosage with
my medication a couple of days ago. It's like, wow,
blood payers start to get back up again. I wonder
what the heck's going on with?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, this is probably I mean, you guys will be better,
have better, kind of a better perspective on this than
I will, because you've been around it longer. But this
is I think the weirdest story I've ever heard in
all of Indiana politics and government. You guys know what
we're going to talk about today, So before we died, well, okay,
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obviously we're we're going to talk about these allegations of
AI porn being shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. Jim
thirty years in the Indiana Senate, You ever hear a
weirder story? Than artificial intelligence pornography of a state reps
wife being shared in the allegations of such in the
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Lieutenant Governor's office.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Never n e v er never and you never say never,
But never have I heard something so ghastly and so
it's weirdest, it's just it is just I'm incredulous about it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You your turn. You twenty years. That's not quite thirty,
but that's close. You've covered Indiana politics and government for
twenty years. Where does allegations of AI porn of a
state reps wife being shared in lieutenant governor's office rank?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well, you also got through in thirty because that's been
ten years in Illinois. Well, that's true, and as I
run through the Illinois Indiana archive, I have to echo
what my distinguished colleague from Lawrence Carmel just said, except
in ev ah neva.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, So let's kind of set what's been going on.
I'd assume most people who listen to this program are
very into the Indiana politics and government. But just in
case they haven't, So the director's.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Cut, No, no, this is the the trailer is just
about the right side. Yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So Tom Labianco is a national freelance journalist. People around
here probably know him. He wrote for The Indie Star
for several years and and the Associated Press. He's wrote
wrote a big book on Mike Pence and his time
in a White House. He wrote, you've seen him on
the MSNBC, Fox News. I mean, he's a known national quantity.
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And he comes out with this story over the weekend
in which employees from the Lieutenant Governor's office, like high
ranking people in the Lieutenant Governor's office.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Allegedly.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Viewed and shared what is described as artificial intelligence pornography
of and we'll go ahead name him because he's he's
he's publicly spoken on this. Craig Haggard's wife. Craig Haggard
is a state rep. His district covers part of Johnson
County part of Hendricks County. And allegedly his wife was
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appearing in Who's Your Idol? Is that the name of
the program?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We were both there.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
This is oh you were there, I was there. Nobody
made a video of you allegedly no, but she.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Was wonderful that night. So you have a beautiful voice.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I made a video of myself.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, that looks like the Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
His wife appeared so this is a fundraiser of some sort, right,
where the politicians put the politics aside for an evening and.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Raise money for the Mental Health Association of Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, and they do whatever their talent is. Singing could
be magic, it could be for whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
For those political junkies. Abdullah has appeared as pope one year.
So that's it's a very fun.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Evening, okay. And then a song and dance called the
Vatican Rag.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Sure, why not? Seems about right? Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So so so that so allegedly, I mean not alleged,
she performed an event I believe with Hunter Smith, who
is a state rep now probably best known for people
as the punter of the Indianapolis Colts. Correct, and allegedly
based on this report that Labianco put out that two employees,
one person was was an attorney for the office and
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another is a high ranking person in the house. Now
he named them, and we'll get to that in a second.
He put there, like their names in the story were
sharing some sort of manufactured artificial intelligence pornography of this
woman doing something or appearing in a way in which
she the things she didn't actually do, or way in
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which she didn't appear. Did I get the did I
summarize that direct while we don't know, I don't, I don't,
I don't know. I mean, if you're basically if you
have okay, here's a question, if you have it on
your phone. All this is allegedly of course, if you
have this on your something on your phone and I say, Jim,
look at this, that's sharing it, right, absolutely, okay, Well,
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if more than one person saw it, somebody had to
be the share.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Err, whether it's whether it's electronically or you put up
you stream it.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I just want to clarification.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, yeah, And basically what it was. Apparently she's on
the the AI generated image is her basically top lessons
kind of jiggling up and down.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Oh okay, I knew you would know what exactly was
going on. Now. Now, this allegedly took place.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
In the office, and based on this reporting from the sherring,
not the jiggling.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, I don't think any of that happened.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I think that's the problem is that these people are
alleged to have shared something that didn't actually take place. Now,
the other background on this is both at a state
and now federal level, this is could be depending on
what exactly might have taken place a criminal act of
some sort. It's not just if it did happen. Hey,
that's totally inappropriate. But now both Indiana and the federal governments,
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to understanding, have criminalized the behavior.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Okay, all right, so I've set the stage perfectly here. Okay,
So Labianco, the journalist who wrote the story, now he
has written two stories on this, and I'll try to
get as much of this as we possibly can. Talked
to beckwith Michael beckwith the lieutenant governor who oversees the office,
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and he basically said it didn't happen, and he done
an investigation, which he doubled down on a Tara Hote
town hall the other night, and he knows these guys,
and this didn't happen, and he tried to blame it
on somebody who was recently released from his office. All Right,
My question to both of you, what sort of investigation
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could the lieutenant governor have possibly done in essentially one
day to determ and this didn't happen. Did he have
a team of forensic experts come in and analyze every
cellular telephone of every employee or every computer what possible.
That is the first red flag to me is yeah,
we investigated, it didn't happen. What could you have done
in one day?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, just like this, honey, are you looking for my purse? Yes,
I'm looking for it. Oh, don't see it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I look for it as you can't see.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
This is the radio. Abdul very carelessly looked under the
desk there, very quick.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Like, nope, I'll see anything under here.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
We're all good.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Let's get back to the baseline. First of all, I'm
sick about this. It's bizarre, isn't it. Well, I'm sick
about missus Haggard. We're raising money for mental health and
she's giving a great performance and regard we haven't seen
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this video, but regardless of it, for someone to go
up on stage and do that and now she's literally
attacked is just it's ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, So let's let's pivot off that, because again, there's
no way we're gonna cover all of this in the
thirty minutes. We're a lot of but we're gonna do
our best, Okay. So this is the this is the
issue right now. Haggard has said, and I think he
told the Indie Star earlier this morning. Wednesdays are putting
this together. He has not actually seen the video, but
you guys both know Labyanco, right.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yes, he's a credible, a good reporter.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Guys like that, generally one of the problems with Micah
and the people around him is Michael wants to be
in the media. He doesn't understand how the media works. Yea,
and without being able to get inside Labiyanco's life or
his headquarters or whatever. Guys like that, they generally start
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at the end. It's like writing a season of television.
How are we gonna end with the big reveal? And
then we write the whole thing leading up to the
big reveal. Guys like that generally don't want to even
do a story like this, much less name the names.
He named these people as in essentially saying they could
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be guilty of a crime. They could, mister attorney, that
could totally open you up to all sorts of legal stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right. Well, let's put it this way.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
If you accused somebody of this.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And they didn't do it, and you named them, that's
defamation per se.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Right, So for a guy like that now and then.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And by the way, it's even higher standard if it's
for public officials, because they have a higher standard than
than regular people. And so the higher arms of the
political food chain, the more damages you could possibly get. Now,
if it's meats all the character, if it meants all
the qualifications of defamation. Right, So the what floored me
about the reporting is he named the people and in
order to do that, if he doesn't have some sort
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of smoking gun, I just can't see a journalist of
his credentials, of his experience. Doesn't mean he didn't, but
I can't see him making that mistake. And you have
to that would be that would be journalism one O
one type errorst to do that. And and I've known
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Lebanco for years.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, there's fire behind this smoke.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, he's talking about this sort of off and on
while he's been working on it. What are you hearing? Like,
I'm hearing this blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And everybody listening to this knows this, but it needs
to be repeated. The second most powerful office in the
state of Indiana is the Marion County Prosecutor. The estate
House sits in Marion County, and if they are sniffing
around doing interviews or have an interest in there, including
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with the federal government. There is fire behind this smoke.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So so what you're discussing is lo Bianco has reported this.
Haggard appeared to confirm it in an Indie Star used
to came out this morning that the Marion County Prosecutor's
office is doing some sort of investigation into something now
without revealing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
To get that grin off your face, without revealing too much.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
There are rumors that there are multiple things potentially being investigated,
and this just happens to maybe be something that. Now there,
let's throw that one on top of the We don't
know that for sure. That's just you and I running
separate circles. And if we've both heard the same thing,
that's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Right, So you know, it's like it's like a multi
layered political cake. You know, we were last week, We're
like layer four and we're like, oh, let's let six, seven,
and eight on top of that.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Okay, so we go on.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Jim, I just wanted to preface that for people that
that is why you're referencing the Marion County Prosecutors.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yes, yes, we've all now we've all heard this and
and the fact that that's actually bubbling to the surface
in all of our circles. It really means that this
is a very serious issue, maybe possibly other issues as
well as the fact that there's a circular firing squad
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going on at the state House and Republicans are attacking Republicans.
And I've said on this program, I've gotten two calls
in the last forty hours, and one of them was
citing that I on Abdul's TV show, I made a mention,
a prediction that Diego Morales is going to win the
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convention and win win reelection next year because of his
ability to go into linkod day dinners and contact and
he's got great support, you.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Mean his ability to campaign twenty four to seven using
state money.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
But he is definitely doing that. But my point in
saying all this is two calls. One guy. One person said,
one delegate said that Jim, we are outside the bubble
of which you speak and we are sickened by what
Diego Morales this is doing in office. And then second
the second person called me and said, you know, we
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we don't approve what what what's happening on the statewide
character list is something that that we didn't expect when
we voted for them in the convention. As as a delegate, well,
I've never heard that.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Befo pulling what's left of his hair out over there.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yip. I think we all know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think I think we all knew. Diego and several
of us tried to warn the public. Look, you may
not like Holcombe and Hally Sullivan's kind of a turd,
but this guy, this is a whole another level of bad.
You don't want to and David Shelton's running if you'd
like a third option, which nobody would blame you for.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
But but I've.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Just never really heard from delegates.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, but it's with Micah. So this is the problem
with Micah.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He doesn't understand and he, clearly, based on the people
he surrounded himself within this office, didn't want to understand.
You don't get to make the rules as you go
along when you enter state government. There is a roadmap
that everybody has to or supposed to abide by. And
you are nodding feverishly, yes, this is not you know,
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there are a.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Lot of people coloring outside the lines in state government.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The problem is, though the people who and I warned
him about this, I like everything else. I told him
I was ignored order, which was received. I said, the
problem you have is they hate you. There's lots of
people color outside the lines. They're not hated. People aren't
looking to get them. They're part of the team. Say
you ain't part of the team. You have to drive
fifty five and fifty five and two hands on the wheel,
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make sure that seatbelts buckled. And I don't think Micah
has ever appreciated what the ramifications of that, or the
people in this office have appreciated with the ramifications of
that could be. And you know, this is where he
has no friends in the state House. He has no
one to stand up and go no way.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Governor Bron's going to save him.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, of course not. Now Bron's doing the me so
stupid routine right now. He had some gaggle yesterday where
he's like, I was shocked to learn there was gambling
going on in this establishment. But you know, deep down,
the governor's office has a pretty I mean, you'd be
floor if they did have a pretty good overview of
what was taking place.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
But what this reminds me of is remember Curtis Hill.
Curtis Hill first got elected. Remember and I was off
in a position on their established like media persons like
woll I'm flatter to know you're a good guy, good friend. However,
you're probably gonna need a friend on the outside. And
here's my advice to you for the first couple of years.
Just learn the building, learn where the bathrooms are. Now
go go go to every districts. Yeah yeah, go go
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go to every district with a big, big check, like
you know, we're taking the Attorney General's office on the road.
And build up your church the whole nine yards. Then
that way when you when you get ready to run
for governor, which we know that it was fundamentally that's
what you want to do. You got, you got everything,
your team player, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Then next thing you know, yeah yeah, in a very
short isn't is this sounfamiliar scandal in a very short
period amount of time.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I think it's advice that Micah received as well.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But it's whether it's the car, which I'm not saying
there's anything illegal about the car, but it's you're you're
going to get shredded on it because you claim to
be different, you claim to be better you claim to
be a person who's gonna go there and fight the system. Well, heck, yes,
you know. Say what you want about Diego. For all
his bookrap, he's a total team player. Oh, he's mister
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Republican establishment. So they generally, and I think we've kind
of proven a lot of the money that fuels Diego
touches a bunch of these other people, so they they're
not gonna get too aggressive on getting to the bottom
of what's going on with Diego Micah though he don't
raise no money, and everybody hates him, and he goes
out of his way to be hated. And this is
where you run into a major problem now, especially I
there's an act of criminal investigation if indeed there is
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of him going ouh, we investigated it. These guys didn't
do it. I didn't know anything about it. Well, if
they can prove any of that is false, take away
the potential criminal side of anything publicly. Now you've been
caught in a lie, doesn't mean he is lying. It
means if that any of that gets disproven, your toast.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And by the way, to please keep in mind, you'll
you'll know. One starts when things start to get real
when staff starts lawyering up.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Which my understanding has already happened, or well, former staff.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I gotta call my good friendship Oils. So it's probably
gonna be needing this help relatively soon here.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, so let's let's kind of go back to the
big picture here. Though two guys have been accused of this,
it's a major thing. You would think these guys. Now,
everybody handles things differently, right, nobody's under any obligation to
do anything, but they would be aggressively out there, especially
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as Micah as much as Micah loves the fight, and
you know they would be like, this absolutely didn't happen.
We're gonna sue Labianco for everything he's worth. We can't
believe we'd be accused of this. And Mike could be
right there beside him and charge here we go. See,
we want about Trump? When that story about him and
Epstein came out in the Wall Street Journal, how fast
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did he sue?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Hey? Quick? Right?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But absolutely it's it's radio.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Silence from everybody other than micas so far.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, and remember the problem with the problem with with
with suing is you gotta have at least some chance
of winning otherwise they're considered for fraudulent and frivolous and
then it gets thrown out and it's costing you money
even more than what you're suing for.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
What's going for? Uh, what's the positive for this whole
issue is that it's summer. People aren't paying attention. They're
getting back from from vacation. It's the political junkiees, it's
the delegate, it's the establishment, and the people inside the
inside the state House are paying attention.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You see. But I would argue my friend at the
end of the day though, that's at this at this
stage of the game, that's all that matters. I always
had a theory that with me and my you know,
huge shopping me nameless is now in Illinois prison right now.
Where rapid issues there's there's different elements to it. There's
pulk element, there's the talks element. There's also legal element
and what's so to talk about in the legal in
(21:07):
the legal under Yeah exactly. And I was in a
small claim sport the other day and I was like,
rannor thank you very much. I appreciate you know your
time today, but this is much more fun to deal
with this in defamation, right now, and all the judgment
just giving me a big laugh and look at me
like I know exactly what's going on, which means all
judges talk, all court staff talks, all the legal people talk,
same thing in the political class right now, it's the
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audience that matters. And trust me, as one delegate told
me yesterday, I do. If we had a legal way
to get rid of Michah Beckworth diego right now, we'd
have done it a long time ago.
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Rob Kendall will keeps your Baz Jim Merritt a program
of State House Happenings, a weekly look at what's going
on with Indiana politics and government. We're we're taking a
dive into these allegations and this story, the stories plural
that have come out from Tom la Bianco's a freelance
journalist alleging that artificial intelligence pornography was viewed shared inside
the Lieutenant governor's office and the fallout of that of
(23:28):
uh and again, well we'll name him because he's he's
spoke of public about it. Craig Haggard is a state rep.
His wife And this is the other thing I've said.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
About the way artificial intelligence point is called AIP. You
do you know me what? Huh? It's it's a it's
an old it's an old hip hop song. Down with
opp Oh.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I see what you're doing there. Okay, very good.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
National problem, well, yes it is.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And this and this is other problem is because the
first lady was involved in this, the federal side of
this legislation, stuffy authorities are looking for somebody to make
an example out of it.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I mean this is can imagine what the Democrats
are doing right now if they were just halfway organized, Well,
my god, from like here you go, here you go,
here's another one.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Here's the things that need to be reiterated, though, Okay,
nobody I've heard publicly has said they've seen the video
in a public statement. Now, Abdul, you and I have
some sources who have said some stuff, But in terms
of publicly, nobody has claimed to have actually viewed the video.
Doesn't mean they have itIt just means nobody said publicly
(24:34):
I saw this video. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty
of anything. All we know is that the Marion County
prosecutor allegedly is looking into something.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Again, Abdul, you and I.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Have some information that we've been told, but it doesn't
mean it's you know, it doesn't mean it's accurate, and
so it's just but but the sniff test says, what
a weird story for someone to make up. Like, if
you're like, I'm going to try to get Micah beck
With and his office and I'm going to pick these
two obscure.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Guys, It's just like playing the words cellar game. You
just throw the words up on the board and think, Okay,
we didn't make a headline out of these words right here.
That's what this feels like.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, if I was Micah beck With right now, I'd
be I'd be yelling from the balconies. If this is
not true, this did not happen, and and my office
is being besmirched because of some rumor going on, but I.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Don't hear that well.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And the other part of this is actually I want
to say he did tell so and recently that they
shouldn't believe Rob Kendle me because we're both liars.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So well, the problem is the problem is that Micah
claims they investigated it. What did and you'll come back
to what we talked about earlier. What investigation did you
do in one day? Right like again to the abduing thing.
Did you just look under the desk and ask the
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person did they do it?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Or can be easily discovered by by law technology, law enforcement.
They're gonna be able to They're gonna be able to
look at computers, monitors and find out exactly if anything happened.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Trust me, if they haven't already.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well, and this is the problem or the guy like
Micah who doesn't understand how this all works, and when
you don't have people in the building around you who
know how it works, because you just hire your friends
versus people are competent or know what they're doing. You
he's used to just being able to say anything, and.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
He's an incredible speaker.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
He'll say something, you'll go, hey, I bought his bull
crap for four years, okay, and I don't trust any
of these people.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's how good the guy is.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Right, So he's used to being able to say it,
and he'll say it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
People go, oh, okay, yeah, they looked into it, versus
the logical question is what investigation did you do in
one day? Right, So he's got a major problem with
that and the and again I come back.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Somebody and for someone like Michael choos's words very carefully
and sometimes not so carefully, I'll just say it was no.
Michael went about these allegates like, we're looking into it.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We'll keep you guys updated on that investigator.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
He gave definitive statements though, and that and that's that's
his that's his problem. So we've got about a minute
left here. I again will just say this and I
have and then I'll give you guys ten seconds each
to wrap up the show. I have no idea what
Loabianco actually has of anything, but the fact that he
named the people's names, the fact that he ran this
story to begin with, I would be floored if, like
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I said, if you think about it about writing a
television series that he didn't have the great reveal the
season finale started. He started with that in his possession
and is working his way forward. I could be totally wrong.
He could be making an egregious mistake. I don't know.
Just knowing a guy like that and how he operates,
I would be surprised. Jim Marrett ten seconds.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
My heart goes out to Representative Haggard and his wife.
She got up on on stage and and uh, it
looked it just we haven't seen it, but it's it's
it's an awful circumstance to put a couple into this situation.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Abdu. This weekends cheat to be a work of art.
Trust me and.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
That'll do it. Process week Jim Marritt will gives you aus.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
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State House Happening is your weekly look at what's going
on with Indiana politics and government. Before we begin in
the show, let's mean the award winning panel. You know
him from thirty years in the Indiana Senate, the Great
Jim Merritt. Hello, Robert, and you know him as the
owner and operator of Indiepolitics Dot org A Duela keeps Shabaz.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Hello, if I'm gonnaquot Charlton Hesse for the classic film
Planet Apes, It's a madhouse, It's a mad House.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Remember that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Remember when we were like, well, sessions over, it's gonna
be really hard to find things to talk about all
summer long.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
The summer's been better than the session.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
It's Abdul. You were hoping for calm.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
He's never hoping for calm. He would go out of
business if they were called.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
My blood pressure is always hoping for calm. Yes, so
I know. I was how to increase my dosage with
my medication a couple of days ago. It's like, wow,
blood payers start to get back up again. I wonder
what the heck's going on with?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Okay, this is probably I mean, you guys will be better,
have better, kind of a better perspective on this than
I will, because you've been around it longer. But this
is I think the weirdest story I've ever heard in
all of Indiana politics and government. You guys know what
we're going to talk about today, So before we died, well, okay,
(02:45):
obviously we're we're going to talk about these allegations of
AI porn being shared in the Lieutenant Governor's office. Jim
thirty years in the Indiana Senate, You ever hear a
weirder story? Than artificial intelligence pornography of a state reps
wife being shared in the allegations of such in the
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Lieutenant Governor's office.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Never n e v er never and you never say never,
But never have I heard something so ghastly and so
it's weirdest, it's just it is just I'm incredulous about it.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
You your turn. You twenty years. That's not quite thirty,
but that's close. You've covered Indiana politics and government for
twenty years. Where does allegations of AI porn of a
state reps wife being shared in lieutenant governor's office rank?
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Well, you also got through in thirty because that's been
ten years in Illinois. Well, that's true, and as I
run through the Illinois Indiana archive, I have to echo
what my distinguished colleague from Lawrence Carmel just said, except
in ev ah neva.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Okay, So let's kind of set what's been going on.
I'd assume most people who listen to this program are
very into the Indiana politics and government. But just in
case they haven't, So the director's.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Cut, No, no, this is the the trailer is just
about the right side. Yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So Tom Labianco is a national freelance journalist. People around
here probably know him. He wrote for The Indie Star
for several years and and the Associated Press. He's wrote
wrote a big book on Mike Pence and his time
in a White House. He wrote, you've seen him on
the MSNBC, Fox News. I mean, he's a known national quantity.
(04:37):
And he comes out with this story over the weekend
in which employees from the Lieutenant Governor's office, like high
ranking people in the Lieutenant Governor's office.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Allegedly.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Viewed and shared what is described as artificial intelligence pornography
of and we'll go ahead name him because he's he's
he's publicly spoken on this. Craig Haggard's wife. Craig Haggard
is a state rep. His district covers part of Johnson
County part of Hendricks County. And allegedly his wife was
(05:13):
appearing in Who's Your Idol? Is that the name of
the program?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
We were both there.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
This is oh you were there, I was there. Nobody
made a video of you allegedly no, but she.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Was wonderful that night. So you have a beautiful voice.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I made a video of myself.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah, that looks like the Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
His wife appeared so this is a fundraiser of some sort, right,
where the politicians put the politics aside for an evening and.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Raise money for the Mental Health Association of Indiana.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Okay, and they do whatever their talent is. Singing could
be magic, it could be for whatever.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
For those political junkies. Abdullah has appeared as pope one year.
So that's it's a very fun.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Evening, okay. And then a song and dance called the
Vatican Rag.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Sure, why not? Seems about right? Okay.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
So so so that so allegedly, I mean not alleged,
she performed an event I believe with Hunter Smith, who
is a state rep now probably best known for people
as the punter of the Indianapolis Colts. Correct, and allegedly
based on this report that Labianco put out that two employees,
one person was was an attorney for the office and
(06:27):
another is a high ranking person in the house. Now
he named them, and we'll get to that in a second.
He put there, like their names in the story were
sharing some sort of manufactured artificial intelligence pornography of this
woman doing something or appearing in a way in which
she the things she didn't actually do, or way in
(06:48):
which she didn't appear. Did I get the did I
summarize that direct while we don't know, I don't, I don't,
I don't know. I mean, if you're basically if you
have okay, here's a question, if you have it on
your phone. All this is allegedly of course, if you
have this on your something on your phone and I say, Jim,
look at this, that's sharing it, right, absolutely, okay, Well,
(07:12):
if more than one person saw it, somebody had to
be the share.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Err, whether it's whether it's electronically or you put up
you stream it.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I just want to clarification.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, yeah, And basically what it was. Apparently she's on
the the AI generated image is her basically top lessons
kind of jiggling up and down.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Oh okay, I knew you would know what exactly was
going on. Now. Now, this allegedly took place.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
In the office, and based on this reporting from the sherring,
not the jiggling.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, I don't think any of that happened.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I think that's the problem is that these people are
alleged to have shared something that didn't actually take place. Now,
the other background on this is both at a state
and now federal level, this is could be depending on
what exactly might have taken place a criminal act of
some sort. It's not just if it did happen. Hey,
that's totally inappropriate. But now both Indiana and the federal governments,
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to understanding, have criminalized the behavior.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Okay, all right, so I've set the stage perfectly here. Okay,
So Labianco, the journalist who wrote the story, now he
has written two stories on this, and I'll try to
get as much of this as we possibly can. Talked
to beckwith Michael beckwith the lieutenant governor who oversees the office,
(08:33):
and he basically said it didn't happen, and he done
an investigation, which he doubled down on a Tara Hote
town hall the other night, and he knows these guys,
and this didn't happen, and he tried to blame it
on somebody who was recently released from his office. All Right,
My question to both of you, what sort of investigation
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could the lieutenant governor have possibly done in essentially one
day to determ and this didn't happen. Did he have
a team of forensic experts come in and analyze every
cellular telephone of every employee or every computer what possible.
That is the first red flag to me is yeah,
we investigated, it didn't happen. What could you have done
in one day?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Well, just like this, honey, are you looking for my purse? Yes,
I'm looking for it. Oh, don't see it.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I look for it as you can't see.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
This is the radio. Abdul very carelessly looked under the
desk there, very quick.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Like, nope, I'll see anything under here.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Nope.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
We're all good.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
Let's get back to the baseline. First of all, I'm
sick about this. It's bizarre, isn't it. Well, I'm sick
about missus Haggard. We're raising money for mental health and
she's giving a great performance and regard we haven't seen
(09:52):
this video, but regardless of it, for someone to go
up on stage and do that and now she's literally
attacked is just it's ugly.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Okay, So let's let's pivot off that, because again, there's
no way we're gonna cover all of this in the
thirty minutes. We're a lot of but we're gonna do
our best, Okay. So this is the this is the
issue right now. Haggard has said, and I think he
told the Indie Star earlier this morning. Wednesdays are putting
this together. He has not actually seen the video, but
you guys both know Labyanco, right.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Yes, he's a credible, a good reporter.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Guys like that, generally one of the problems with Micah
and the people around him is Michael wants to be
in the media. He doesn't understand how the media works. Yea,
and without being able to get inside Labiyanco's life or
his headquarters or whatever. Guys like that, they generally start
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at the end. It's like writing a season of television.
How are we gonna end with the big reveal? And
then we write the whole thing leading up to the
big reveal. Guys like that generally don't want to even
do a story like this, much less name the names.
He named these people as in essentially saying they could
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be guilty of a crime. They could, mister attorney, that
could totally open you up to all sorts of legal stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Right. Well, let's put it this way.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
If you accused somebody of this.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And they didn't do it, and you named them, that's
defamation per se.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Right, So for a guy like that now and then.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
And by the way, it's even higher standard if it's
for public officials, because they have a higher standard than
than regular people. And so the higher arms of the
political food chain, the more damages you could possibly get. Now,
if it's meats all the character, if it meants all
the qualifications of defamation. Right, So the what floored me
about the reporting is he named the people and in
order to do that, if he doesn't have some sort
(11:56):
of smoking gun, I just can't see a journalist of
his credentials, of his experience. Doesn't mean he didn't, but
I can't see him making that mistake. And you have
to that would be that would be journalism one O
one type errorst to do that. And and I've known
(12:17):
Lebanco for years.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, there's fire behind this smoke.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, he's talking about this sort of off and on
while he's been working on it. What are you hearing? Like,
I'm hearing this blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
And everybody listening to this knows this, but it needs
to be repeated. The second most powerful office in the
state of Indiana is the Marion County Prosecutor. The estate
House sits in Marion County, and if they are sniffing
around doing interviews or have an interest in there, including
(12:48):
with the federal government. There is fire behind this smoke.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
So so what you're discussing is lo Bianco has reported this.
Haggard appeared to confirm it in an Indie Star used
to came out this morning that the Marion County Prosecutor's
office is doing some sort of investigation into something now
without revealing.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
To get that grin off your face, without revealing too much.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
There are rumors that there are multiple things potentially being investigated,
and this just happens to maybe be something that. Now there,
let's throw that one on top of the We don't
know that for sure. That's just you and I running
separate circles. And if we've both heard the same thing,
that's very interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Right, So you know, it's like it's like a multi
layered political cake. You know, we were last week, We're
like layer four and we're like, oh, let's let six, seven,
and eight on top of that.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Okay, so we go on.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Jim, I just wanted to preface that for people that
that is why you're referencing the Marion County Prosecutors.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yes, yes, we've all now we've all heard this and
and the fact that that's actually bubbling to the surface
in all of our circles. It really means that this
is a very serious issue, maybe possibly other issues as
well as the fact that there's a circular firing squad
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going on at the state House and Republicans are attacking Republicans.
And I've said on this program, I've gotten two calls
in the last forty hours, and one of them was
citing that I on Abdul's TV show, I made a mention,
a prediction that Diego Morales is going to win the
(14:32):
convention and win win reelection next year because of his
ability to go into linkod day dinners and contact and
he's got great support, you.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Mean his ability to campaign twenty four to seven using
state money.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
But he is definitely doing that. But my point in
saying all this is two calls. One guy. One person said,
one delegate said that Jim, we are outside the bubble
of which you speak and we are sickened by what
Diego Morales this is doing in office. And then second
the second person called me and said, you know, we
(15:07):
we don't approve what what what's happening on the statewide
character list is something that that we didn't expect when
we voted for them in the convention. As as a delegate, well,
I've never heard that.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Befo pulling what's left of his hair out over there.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Yip. I think we all know.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think I think we all knew. Diego and several
of us tried to warn the public. Look, you may
not like Holcombe and Hally Sullivan's kind of a turd,
but this guy, this is a whole another level of bad.
You don't want to and David Shelton's running if you'd
like a third option, which nobody would blame you for.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
But but I've.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Just never really heard from delegates.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
Well, but it's with Micah. So this is the problem
with Micah.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
He doesn't understand and he, clearly, based on the people
he surrounded himself within this office, didn't want to understand.
You don't get to make the rules as you go
along when you enter state government. There is a roadmap
that everybody has to or supposed to abide by. And
you are nodding feverishly, yes, this is not you know,
(16:10):
there are a.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Lot of people coloring outside the lines in state government.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
The problem is, though the people who and I warned
him about this, I like everything else. I told him
I was ignored order, which was received. I said, the
problem you have is they hate you. There's lots of
people color outside the lines. They're not hated. People aren't
looking to get them. They're part of the team. Say
you ain't part of the team. You have to drive
fifty five and fifty five and two hands on the wheel,
(16:35):
make sure that seatbelts buckled. And I don't think Micah
has ever appreciated what the ramifications of that, or the
people in this office have appreciated with the ramifications of
that could be. And you know, this is where he
has no friends in the state House. He has no
one to stand up and go no way.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Governor Bron's going to save him.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, of course not. Now Bron's doing the me so
stupid routine right now. He had some gaggle yesterday where
he's like, I was shocked to learn there was gambling
going on in this establishment. But you know, deep down,
the governor's office has a pretty I mean, you'd be
floor if they did have a pretty good overview of
what was taking place.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
But what this reminds me of is remember Curtis Hill.
Curtis Hill first got elected. Remember and I was off
in a position on their established like media persons like
woll I'm flatter to know you're a good guy, good friend. However,
you're probably gonna need a friend on the outside. And
here's my advice to you for the first couple of years.
Just learn the building, learn where the bathrooms are. Now
go go go to every districts. Yeah yeah, go go
(17:40):
go to every district with a big, big check, like
you know, we're taking the Attorney General's office on the road.
And build up your church the whole nine yards. Then
that way when you when you get ready to run
for governor, which we know that it was fundamentally that's
what you want to do. You got, you got everything,
your team player, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Then next thing you know, yeah yeah, in a very
short isn't is this sounfamiliar scandal in a very short
period amount of time.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
I think it's advice that Micah received as well.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
It is.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
But it's whether it's the car, which I'm not saying
there's anything illegal about the car, but it's you're you're
going to get shredded on it because you claim to
be different, you claim to be better you claim to
be a person who's gonna go there and fight the system. Well, heck, yes,
you know. Say what you want about Diego. For all
his bookrap, he's a total team player. Oh, he's mister
(18:30):
Republican establishment. So they generally, and I think we've kind
of proven a lot of the money that fuels Diego
touches a bunch of these other people, so they they're
not gonna get too aggressive on getting to the bottom
of what's going on with Diego Micah though he don't
raise no money, and everybody hates him, and he goes
out of his way to be hated. And this is
where you run into a major problem now, especially I
there's an act of criminal investigation if indeed there is
(18:53):
of him going ouh, we investigated it. These guys didn't
do it. I didn't know anything about it. Well, if
they can prove any of that is false, take away
the potential criminal side of anything publicly. Now you've been
caught in a lie, doesn't mean he is lying. It
means if that any of that gets disproven, your toast.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
And by the way, to please keep in mind, you'll
you'll know. One starts when things start to get real
when staff starts lawyering up.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Which my understanding has already happened, or well, former staff.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I gotta call my good friendship Oils. So it's probably
gonna be needing this help relatively soon here.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Well, so let's let's kind of go back to the
big picture here. Though two guys have been accused of this,
it's a major thing. You would think these guys. Now,
everybody handles things differently, right, nobody's under any obligation to
do anything, but they would be aggressively out there, especially
(19:46):
as Micah as much as Micah loves the fight, and
you know they would be like, this absolutely didn't happen.
We're gonna sue Labianco for everything he's worth. We can't
believe we'd be accused of this. And Mike could be
right there beside him and charge here we go. See,
we want about Trump? When that story about him and
Epstein came out in the Wall Street Journal, how fast
(20:07):
did he sue?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Hey? Quick? Right?
Speaker 5 (20:09):
But absolutely it's it's radio.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Silence from everybody other than micas so far.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, and remember the problem with the problem with with
with suing is you gotta have at least some chance
of winning otherwise they're considered for fraudulent and frivolous and
then it gets thrown out and it's costing you money
even more than what you're suing for.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
What's going for? Uh, what's the positive for this whole
issue is that it's summer. People aren't paying attention. They're
getting back from from vacation. It's the political junkiees, it's
the delegate, it's the establishment, and the people inside the
inside the state House are paying attention.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
You see. But I would argue my friend at the
end of the day though, that's at this at this
stage of the game, that's all that matters. I always
had a theory that with me and my you know,
huge shopping me nameless is now in Illinois prison right now.
Where rapid issues there's there's different elements to it. There's
pulk element, there's the talks element. There's also legal element
and what's so to talk about in the legal in
(21:07):
the legal under Yeah exactly. And I was in a
small claim sport the other day and I was like,
rannor thank you very much. I appreciate you know your
time today, but this is much more fun to deal
with this in defamation, right now, and all the judgment
just giving me a big laugh and look at me
like I know exactly what's going on, which means all
judges talk, all court staff talks, all the legal people talk,
same thing in the political class right now, it's the
(21:29):
audience that matters. And trust me, as one delegate told
me yesterday, I do. If we had a legal way
to get rid of Michah Beckworth diego right now, we'd
have done it a long time ago.
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Rob Kendall will keeps your Baz Jim Merritt a program
of State House Happenings, a weekly look at what's going
on with Indiana politics and government. We're we're taking a
dive into these allegations and this story, the stories plural
that have come out from Tom la Bianco's a freelance
journalist alleging that artificial intelligence pornography was viewed shared inside
the Lieutenant governor's office and the fallout of that of
(23:28):
uh and again, well we'll name him because he's he's
spoke of public about it. Craig Haggard is a state rep.
His wife And this is the other thing I've said.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
About the way artificial intelligence point is called AIP. You
do you know me what? Huh? It's it's a it's
an old it's an old hip hop song. Down with
opp Oh.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
I see what you're doing there. Okay, very good.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
National problem, well, yes it is.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And this and this is other problem is because the
first lady was involved in this, the federal side of
this legislation, stuffy authorities are looking for somebody to make
an example out of it.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Yeah, I mean this is can imagine what the Democrats
are doing right now if they were just halfway organized, Well,
my god, from like here you go, here you go,
here's another one.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Here's the things that need to be reiterated, though, Okay,
nobody I've heard publicly has said they've seen the video
in a public statement. Now, Abdul, you and I have
some sources who have said some stuff, But in terms
of publicly, nobody has claimed to have actually viewed the video.
Doesn't mean they have itIt just means nobody said publicly
(24:34):
I saw this video. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty
of anything. All we know is that the Marion County
prosecutor allegedly is looking into something.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Again, Abdul, you and I.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Have some information that we've been told, but it doesn't
mean it's you know, it doesn't mean it's accurate, and
so it's just but but the sniff test says, what
a weird story for someone to make up. Like, if
you're like, I'm going to try to get Micah beck
With and his office and I'm going to pick these
two obscure.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Guys, It's just like playing the words cellar game. You
just throw the words up on the board and think, Okay,
we didn't make a headline out of these words right here.
That's what this feels like.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Well, if I was Micah beck With right now, I'd
be I'd be yelling from the balconies. If this is
not true, this did not happen, and and my office
is being besmirched because of some rumor going on, but I.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Don't hear that well.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
And the other part of this is actually I want
to say he did tell so and recently that they
shouldn't believe Rob Kendle me because we're both liars.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So well, the problem is the problem is that Micah
claims they investigated it. What did and you'll come back
to what we talked about earlier. What investigation did you
do in one day? Right like again to the abduing thing.
Did you just look under the desk and ask the
(26:02):
person did they do it?
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Or can be easily discovered by by law technology, law enforcement.
They're gonna be able to They're gonna be able to
look at computers, monitors and find out exactly if anything happened.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Trust me, if they haven't already.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Well, and this is the problem or the guy like
Micah who doesn't understand how this all works, and when
you don't have people in the building around you who
know how it works, because you just hire your friends
versus people are competent or know what they're doing. You
he's used to just being able to say anything, and.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
He's an incredible speaker.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
He'll say something, you'll go, hey, I bought his bull
crap for four years, okay, and I don't trust any
of these people.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
That's how good the guy is.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Right, So he's used to being able to say it,
and he'll say it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
People go, oh, okay, yeah, they looked into it, versus
the logical question is what investigation did you do in
one day? Right, So he's got a major problem with
that and the and again I come back.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Somebody and for someone like Michael choos's words very carefully
and sometimes not so carefully, I'll just say it was no.
Michael went about these allegates like, we're looking into it.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
We'll keep you guys updated on that investigator.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
He gave definitive statements though, and that and that's that's
his that's his problem. So we've got about a minute
left here. I again will just say this and I
have and then I'll give you guys ten seconds each
to wrap up the show. I have no idea what
Loabianco actually has of anything, but the fact that he
named the people's names, the fact that he ran this
story to begin with, I would be floored if, like
(27:24):
I said, if you think about it about writing a
television series that he didn't have the great reveal the
season finale started. He started with that in his possession
and is working his way forward. I could be totally wrong.
He could be making an egregious mistake. I don't know.
Just knowing a guy like that and how he operates,
I would be surprised. Jim Marrett ten seconds.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
My heart goes out to Representative Haggard and his wife.
She got up on on stage and and uh, it
looked it just we haven't seen it, but it's it's
it's an awful circumstance to put a couple into this situation.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
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