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October 10, 2025 54 mins

What if the risk is doing HR the old way?

This question shaped our third episode of The Skeptic & The Changemaker.

In this conversation, Susan P. Chen, Ph.D. sits down with Stanley Henry, CEO of The Attention Seeker, a creative agency known for helping brands build audiences they can’t ignore. Stanley brings his trademark candor and storytelling flair to unpack how fractional HR can help businesses grow smarter, faster, and with greater agility.

Together, they dive into people, leadership, and growth through a new lens:

-Why chose fractional HR to help you scale 1 to 100?
-Why not just hire a full time HR person?
-The mindset shift founders need to truly leverage people expertise
-Balancing creative freedom with operational discipline
-What startups get wrong about hiring and leadership growth

#TheSkepticAndTheChangemaker #PeopleLeadership #StartupCulture #FutureOfWork #cogrow #Founders #peoplefirst

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