March 20, 2025 • 50 mins
Mirra Andreeva has extended her winning streak by defeating world No.1 Aryna Sabalenka and No.2 Iga Swiatek en route to the Indian Wells title, while Jack Draper secured his first ATP 1000 trophy and enters the top 10 for the first time. Things are heating up in Miami, with Nick Kyrgios coming back from a set down to claim his first victory since 2022. He joins fellow Aussies Rinky Hijikata, Kim Birrell and Tristan Schoolkate who also advanced to the second round. Our correspondents Daniela Hantuchova and Duncan McKenzie wrap up Indians Wells and preview Miami. In studio, Xavier Muhlebach and Brie Stewart are joined by Todd Woodbridge and Levi Huddleston.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
The King is not Dead. Nick Curios comes from a
set behind to record his first win since twenty twenty two.
We've got all the letters from around one, packed with
Ossie winners in Miami, new sensations young stars dominated the
headlines at Indian Wells. We take a closer look at
the numbers behind Mirror's rise to the top and quiz
Master Brie. Strap yourselves in because Brie will be taking
us back in time for this week's top five.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
When did Bree become the I thought that was my role.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Of audio audio quiz. Yeah. Plus we can't afford you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Cheapest chips, Yeah, basically free.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The fact that she's paying us to be here is
a bit of fun. So as we were saying, Bri
is back in the chair, of course, I'm more of
her co host than she is mine. And across the
deck we've got Tod Woodbridge, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Great to be back. I feel like it's a new life,
it's a new year. Yeah, it's sorry, Johnny, Yeah, it's
great to be back. It's it's been a last few weeks.
Have been finishing off the other game show, the lesser
of the two. Yes, Tipping Point is done for me
for my season. So now it's back onto to tennis,
(01:12):
to rollingd Garos, to all those the next three majors
and everything in between. So back at my roots.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Excellent. You've got a tiny, a little bit of respite
before the tennis will tax over.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Take Paris. It's taken over my How good was it?
I lived in Paris for six weeks last year. I know.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, we've started to think that you were a citizens.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The Parisian came home with the attitude and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You've got to get off those ciggies. Todd all right,
and he's more than just a numbers man. He's also
a bit of a baker. Please welcome Levi Hudiston. I thanks, Dave,
really good to have you back.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Baking.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
I did baker carbler recently, which I found out that
maybe that's not a very popular term here carblo.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
But yeah, it's basically.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Would we call it a crumble?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Maybe a crumble, but it's more bready tarp and then yeah,
some blackberries.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
He made it a cobbler loaf of bread.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Cobb loaf. Oh com I mean my I immediately thought
you were mending shoes.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, me too, And did it taste right?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
You know, it was a risk because I brought it
in and I hadn't tasted it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh but still here he brought it to work because
it was a birthday.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Oh wow, oh my god, that's so nice. How come
we weren't invited to have.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Any We've been exiled to the foreigner of the.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Like it's like twenty steps away.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
No, that's fair, well, it was. It was a small gathering,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We didn't want to get too ceremonial.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Forty nine, that's noted. Next time we have birthday cakes,
we won't be sharing.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, and I'm quite happy not to have a birthday,
so scored.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I can't turn forty again. All right, Well should we
jump in with Probably there's some big news here in
the tennis world, the PTPA, in the upcoming lawsuits, and
you know, there's still a little bit of ambiguity. What's happening,
who's doing what, where, what city, what kind? It's been interesting,
to say the least, obviously a very developing story. But Todd,
(03:06):
what are your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I've been around fairwell now, so I've seen some iterations
of these types of things happened throughout the game. So
in my late teens, it was the car park at
the US Open, with the players sort of demanding to
have more say within the schedule, and then getting the
ATP Tour reinvented in a way that it became a
(03:27):
partnership that the players had more say, became equal with
the tournaments. And just reading all of what would you
call it, the dialogue, the facts that are going into
this case, it's going to be a fascinating time. I
think it's sort of just a little shakup. I can't
see any more than that coming out of it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's not the first time that there's been a shake
up in professional tennis or even sports now.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, and look, if you look at from my perspective
from where we've come to where I was at the
beginning of my career, I mean it's and bounds in
that direction. I mean superannuation packages for players. You know,
we have the smallest amounts. They've got great amounts. I mean,
everything is better. Yet if you read this, you'd be
(04:12):
saying it's so worse, and it's not so. I think
I think it's going to be a hard case to win.
But in terms of winning, winning is opening up discussions
at the table to look at where you can make
things better and you can implement different strategies within the
game that help the game. And in some ways that
(04:35):
might be pulling all of these groups together to go, hey,
let's take a look at that, and let's be honest.
Over the history, a lot of those groups I call
them like an octopus sort of squid that swims and
the tentacles come in and then they're together, and then
they go back out, and then they come back in
and this is a time of like coming together and
they'll have to work together, and then that can only
(04:57):
be good great metaphor, yeah type that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, but also you're you're if you're watching on YouTube,
you'll see the beautiful pantomime puppetry of Todd being an
octopus or a squid.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, we'll just make sure that ink doesn't come out right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They could be a bit of there could be a
bit of that. There's plenty of being put to paper now.
But developing story, I'm sure we'll find out what's going on.
We'll take a little quick break now and after that
we're going to have our little Indian Wells wrap up.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Stick around Banks, Team Danny.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
We have two new Indian worlds, champions on the women's side,
Mirror Andreva and on the men's side, Jack Draper. Let's
start off with the women first, and Mirror. What an
incredible story, a terrific tournament capped off by a remarkable
win over world number one Arena Sabalanca Oh Duncan.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
What the incredible final there was And I don't want
to see anything, but I could feel it coming. I
know Arena was obviously a huge favorite, is going into
this one already beating Mirror twice this year, But there
were just too many similar similarity. Is my first final
really herbecond down the line her favorite shot first time
being in a huge final when I played Hinky Saballenka
(06:07):
one in her semi final six Lave six one, Hingis
one against.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
The six Lave six one.
Speaker 9 (06:11):
Everyone is expecting the number one to win. Hingis was
number one at the time as well, and you know
you're just playing bit free money, there's no pressure on you.
And I was just so impressed mentally how she managed
to turn the match in the second set. It almost
felt like she was getting fled and a little bit down.
Mira on herself, just like she did in Melbourne against Saballenka.
But boy did she turn it around. And from that
(06:32):
second cent onwards, she just got into a little bubble
on her own. She stopped looking at her coach. She
was like, you know what, guys, I've got this. I'm
going to manage to find my way through this match.
And yeah, now she's the youngest one to on this tournament,
which I'm super.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Happy for seventeen years of age, the youngest since Serena
Williams all the way back in nineteen ninety nine. She's
up to world number six now, Danny, could she go
on and win a Grand Slam this year?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (06:58):
Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 9 (06:59):
I mean we always feel like she has the game,
but now with her mentality, working with the psychologist and
just really playing my point, I would say even more
impressive was that semi final against Fiante Guere. After that
first second set, losing big time, she just managed to
turn it around like no one and she showed a
lot of mental strength and I think great things are
(07:21):
coming for me this year and.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
A dream run for Jack Drayper Wins of a Jail Phone,
Seca Jensen Brooksby Taylor Fritz, Ben Shelton, car Lost, Hakaraz
and today hol Garuna incredible win.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
I mean talking about Greston potentially, if you're able to
beat all these guys, I mean the locker room is
ready for Jake to have a great year as well.
And the way he was serving in today's final, I mean,
June was doing everything he could. He was fighting, it
was just impossible to find a way how to get
any chance of draper serve and that is going to
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be his biggest weapon throughout his career. And physically he
showed us that he can manage the emotions that sometimes affect.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
How he feels on the court.
Speaker 9 (08:04):
And yeah, just never blinked for one second, which is
very impressive thing to do. Because this tournament obviously is
considered as the fifth Grand Slam, and outside the Slams,
this is the one you want to win, so it's
normal to get a little bit overwhelmed. This is the
second biggest stadium the players play at. But both winners
today they just showed so much mental toughness.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Two thousand and seven was a special year.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
It was the year Mirror and Driva was born, and
it was the year that you won your first title
here at Indian Wells. Danny, what do you remember from
those celebrations, were there any.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Or she was just right onto the next tournament.
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Well, there was a plan to take the hot air
balloon next morning, but the trick is you have to
do it like at six am, and we're like, yeah,
that's not gonna happen because we are celebrating quite quite
late that night. I do remember the bed was that
we go to Cheesecake Factory to have cheesecake for some reason.
And then we were a huge fans of Mamagin obviously
one of the best Italians restaurant here on El Pacelway.
We used to go every single night. We had to,
(09:01):
you know, check those boxes and kept the routine, so
we had a busy evening. But it was such fun.
And then yeah, actually my coach thought I was crazy
because I made him practice with me the very next morning.
I was just so happy and we were staking Esmeralda
and there are two tennis cours there and he had
this biggiest breakfast because he thought it's a day off obviously,
(09:21):
but I was like, you know what, let's play and
let's do some cross down the line. And he's like,
are you out of your mind? But that was just me.
And then yeah, as soon as that was done, you know,
straight onto Miami and all the focus is there. But
I do have to say it is a pretty special
feeling when you arrived to Miami by the time everyone
already had three four practice days in and you kind
(09:42):
of walk around a little bit flying about the floor.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Okay, Once a champion, always a champion.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Guys, five hundred and four thousand people through the gates
here at Indian Wells.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
That is a record.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
We'll be back a little bit later on to do
a preview of the Miami Open.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Big thanks to Danny and Duncan from America. We'll be
hearing from there and again a little later in the show,
But for now we're going to jump into what's caught
your eye? Levi, Duncan and Danny obviously talking about on driver.
She just keeps winning and we'll probably keep talking about
her even more. But is she one of your court
your eye moments?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Yeah, she is.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I mean, it's really interesting to see how she's developed
and different parts of her game that have changed over time.
So I think the big news that people are all
looking at is Indian well She hit a two hundred
and two Klimna per hour ace, right, and everyone's like wow.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
There was a bit of chat about her not understanding
what a mile was.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yeah, I think it was like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't know, is that fast.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
And it's like, yeah, I mean miles such a really
random unit of measurements, so I don't blame her, but yeah,
So she hit that two oh two, and if we
kind of track back and we look at the progression
of that, when she was a junior in twenty twenty three,
she had a one hundred and sixty one and that
was matching the tour average. So even as a junior,
(10:54):
she was matching the tour average, and then each year
just progressively got a big She had a bigger and
bigger serve tele you know, Ao, She's had a one
hundred and seventy seven kilometer per hour serve, so really
massive uptick on the serf, and so she's garnering all
these aces out of that and she's holding serve a
lot easier. So now she's kind of positioning herself as
(11:14):
someone in the top ten who's a big server, with
the likes of Keys and Rebakana. So I think ninety
five aces already this year so.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Really big serve for her.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Looking at kind of the biomechanics of where that pace
is coming from. We actually looked at her wrist speed
and we saw that she was way above the tour
average at nine point six meters per second compared to
the tour average of six point seven. So she just
has a really quick arm, which I think is maybe
a key ingredient to how she's generating so much pl.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
When you say risk spade, what does that mean? What
kind of like is it when the come down on
the ball kind of thing?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
It would be?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
So we track the movement on the serve, Yeah, how fat?
What's the fastest speed your risk is traveling to impact? Yeah,
to the bowl to the impact. Yeah, And so it's
kind of hard to gauge, like, okay, what is what
is nine point six meters per second? But it's just
nine point six versus six point seven.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
That's a pretty big.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Gap, right, So she's really outperforming in terms of her
risk speed.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
There a lot of numbers there. What's your risk speed average?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well, it's slowed down.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Can you get to measure rubatoid arthritis?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's quite it's quite fascinating to hear that because I
mean I start thinking too, like you're talking risk speed,
I'm thinking that making the racket head travel faster, well,
that would.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Be the leading edge of that racket.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So that's what's moving. But then also I'm thinking, Okay,
to be able to get that, you got to use
your trunk, you got to use your legs. And so
there's that whole technical aspect to her serve that has
really changed and is changing in women's tennis. And I
go back to the likes of Serena you mentioned as
I think as one of those, but even a Sam Stosa,
(12:56):
they changed the way that women actually come into the
ball with the racquet heead right, so coming more underneath,
it gets up and open and gets a trajector that
you can then hit harder, get it up and in
a lot of women's tennis for many has been dead
flat or around the outside of the ball, which is
harder to really go at it or you don't have
the speed. So it's really indicating to me that as
(13:19):
a young player, the technique and the training and everything
is starting to lift the women's game to different levels
than what it's ever been before. Because those numbers are
really big, and.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
It's not just her serve.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I mean, you look at other aspects of her game,
you know, it's interesting to even look at her return.
When she was a junior, she was you know, facing
other juniors, and she was taking the second serve return
really close to the baseline. But then when she got
into the main draw in twenty twenty four, she's taking
that second serve two to three meters behind the baseline.
Now she's more comfortable twenty twenty five, she's within a
(13:56):
meter of the baseline, so she's just putting more pressure
on the opponent's serve.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Again, that's physicality of strength for her. Also body body strength.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean, she's she's just I think she entered
into the mendra and now she's like not just entering
in as the new person, but she's she's attacking people's
serves and she's been incredibly.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
She's a name, she's a recognized one.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh absolutely, and she it was it was inevitable for
me for her to be starting to do this because
I think in the commentary box you say it's like
it was like watching a young Martina Hingis, but so
so Martina Hingis even when you go watch her to day,
has this incredible ball control and ie for the court.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
A craft.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's called court craft, and you can't necessarily teach that
you get better at it, but there's an instinctive way
about playing and that's what she has had all the
way through juniors and the breakthroughs in Roland Garross and
at Wimbledon. And then now you put that with the power.
So when Martina was at her best, she ended up
(14:56):
getting blown away by Lindsay Davenport and the William City
and she couldn't hang on because she didn't have the physicality.
And Andreva's been able to have this court craft, add
that in and.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
With her strength and then being craft.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And when it comes down to these big matches that
she's going to start playing in her career and you
get to semis and finals of Grand Slam tournaments, she
then has this ability to be able to go to
Plan B or Plan C in a big match and
we don't see something just fall over because my game's
not working today. So that's where she's just going to
(15:36):
just keep I mean, she'll be a number one in
the world.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And I wondered too combined, like she's got Concheta in
her corner and she made some comments about how she's
made it further than con Cheetah has in terms of
that tournament. And then I feel like mentally, Andreva for
a young girl, is quite strong, Like she's got a
very good perspective on life, because I know even we
saw I think on like news coverage that she has
(16:03):
a she had a notebook and she was writing notes
during the matches and she had the opponent's names at.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
The top of.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And you've got to have that, you have to four seventeen.
I can't tell you what I was like because I
was not her. You know, No, you don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The other thing about Concheta you mentioned her is that
obviously she's got a good gift Andreva of being able
to absorb the info, and Concheta has done it. She's
been there, she knows the pitfall, she knows the feelings
of anxiety and what and what it's like. So she's
able to have those conversations with her athlete. And she
also coached one of the best woman finals that's ever
(16:40):
been played, but with Muga Rutha in a final at Wimbledon,
who just tactically came out and played the most perfect match,
and so you've got somebody with a sharp mind who's
been there before and an athlete that's willing to respect
and absorb.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
What a combo. Yeah, it sounds like she's caught everybody's
eye and we'll continue to do so. Sticking with you, Todd,
what else caught your eye this week?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well, I mean it's about Novak coming coming back again.
Hasn't won since Australian Open, a match that is as
want to set. But he takes on You need a
few of those things. You do need two of them. Opcially,
he's taking on austral as Rinky hitchkater and going to
be tough for Ricky.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But I guess that's it's not as clear cut as
that though, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, right now, Rinky is a really good solid player.
Now you know, he's a good all court player and
loves playing on the hard cuts in the US that's
where he's had his success. But really, you know, the
focus in the eyes are watching Novak to see what's
going to happen here. You know, how long does he
go playing? Really? I guess subpar for him for most
(17:53):
people on the scale of Novak, Let's be fair to
him because you don't go into a tournament to be
when you've been him to be making third or fourth round.
You got to win. And a lot of great champions
start to go, what am I doing here? If I'm
playing like this and you start to second guess yourself,
it's out to doubt yourself. And there's a little bit
(18:14):
of that feeling around and you know where that feeling
starts in the locker room, because every one of those guys,
including Rinky's, looked at him, going, well, I've got a
chance I do have.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
A great time in a while.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, that's and that's the predicament that novaks in, and
that's what he has to start, you know, finding a
way to win matches. Again, there's only one way to
do that, and that's keep turning up at tournaments. And
then that's hard too. When you've been you've built a
schedule based on I'm so good I can turn up
and win. Now that's not happening. So he's going to
(18:49):
have to play a lot of events from now through
the Rolling Gaross. If he wants to win any of
the majors this year. He can't go in and play
three three tournaments.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So is this the beginning of the end or is
this time for change.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Is that's totally up to Novak. That's not my call.
Don't try and get me to.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Make watching the beginning of the end for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's an inevitable thing, right. It's the same as you
know is buying mechanics and with speed and it's possible
cyborg Novak for the win. The hardest part, and when
you talk about buiomechanics and the body is how do
you get somebody to train do all the stuff that
he does so well the one percents you know from
everywhere from the watery drinks to the yoga to this
(19:34):
to that, But you can't replicate match play and that
little bit harder that you go into a corner to
get a ball out of the little micro tears that happened.
The recovery isn't as swift as it once was. And
they're the things that we started to see both with
Roger first then with Raffa and then maybe the wear
and tear is starting to catch up with him as well.
(19:57):
And then it becomes about how much you can keep
yourself out there, Because I think it's about the tournaments.
Do I want to go to Barcelona. Do I want
to go to the smaller events that is going to
have to do to get the match wins, to get
body fit, body match fit, they're the big questions coming
over there. I mean it is joy months, it is
(20:20):
still on the plane.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Mate, but can the body maintain that?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I think that's the question.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
By walking coconut, and imagine if you had to be
on a court for six hours a day training, Like
I know, I'm not an athlete, but like.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm cod's playing a green M and M.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Green screen.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You'll just be exactly in company line from the floatinghead
of tennisis and millback. Everyone. Well, that's very inscrhful. Good
on you to thank you for that. Now caught my eye.
I was thinking long and hard about this one, and
I always love a good good news story, something a
little bit not a puff piece, but the you know,
the dog at the end of the news, the squirrel
on the water ski that sort of thing. So al
Karaz he's just the nicest folk. He's got a smile
(21:04):
that could launch a thousand ships. But you know, victory
in defeat, he always is humble. So looking back to
the Australian Open this year, Draper, who he was up against.
His young career was marred by injury. He was forced
to retire from his fourth round match here against al
Karaz at the Australian Open, and then afterwards a Karaz
penned a lovely little message on the camera with his
(21:26):
blue Texter to send a message of love and support
to him. Now flash forward just two months ago. Two
months later, sorry, Draper then beats al Koraz in the
semi final in Indian Wells and secured a ten top
ten ranking for the first time ever. So it really
just shows al Karaz is just nicet blown tennis at
the moment. Proved me wrong silence.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
And anyone will contest that good.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No he there's always a biomechanical reason.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
His grin it's fake. We've measured the tooth.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Speed, tooth speedything to do with stat but this is
more to banidotal.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Yeah, he beggd.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
We call that nic data.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I was a member of this tennis club and he
just happened to stop by because it was near the
Naked campus in Portland, Oregon, where I kind of lived
for a while, and he just stopped by and was
watching like I think it was Indian Wells at the time.
Just with everybody else, he didn't even make a presence.
People weren't even like, you know, taking pictures or anything
like that. And then people realized it with him and yeah,
(22:30):
he signed everyone's autographs there. It was just he was
so nice. He is nice, the nicest guy.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
What do you think of him? Told me she would
have much more like we're always making him do stuff
in front whenever.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
We're working with him, we've got a camera. What's he
really like?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Incredibly well mannered no matter what, because even when he
was here for the AO, he's become a golf tragic
and he's been out. He was out golfing every other
day that he was here, playing nine holes on his
off day, and he's traveled out to all the lovely
course is and everybody that met him in those environments
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he was the same as what you're saying. So you know,
you just got to hope he's able to maintain keep
that because it's hard. Don't become jaded, no, but it's
the people around you that don't let you be something
that you shouldn't be. And that's the team that he's
got he's not allowed to be like that. So you know,
(23:24):
kudos to one Carlos, to his parents, to everybody there
that said no, no, treat everybody the same way. And
it's great. I mean, he's so good for our sports
because the next generation of kids are looking up to him,
going that's what I have to be like. So he's
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he's done that by watching.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Who just another former nicest guy in tennis but countryman. Yeah, absolutely, well,
last I to catch do you bring well?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Speaking of Rafa and obviously I'm going the very high
brow tennis news As per usual, Rafa has joined.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
TikTok finally.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
And yeah, are you on TikTok. He's also done it
with in collaboration with TikTok, which is really interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So he was going to get a check.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I don't know if there's been money exchange, but they
have done it together. You can tell. He put up
three videos in the space of less than forty eight hours.
He's got two hundred and ten thousand followers. Be interesting
to see what it's on. You know, by the time
that this pod goes live, he did a video. He's
done three, but one of the videos I liked is
(24:44):
that They showed him some of the top videos his
fans have posted on TikTok and he they recorded him
watching them, and there was a video on his water
bottle placement. There's a video on what he does before
his matches, and he said, oh, yeah, it's really annoying.
It goes for long, doesn't it. I needed it to focus.
(25:04):
I'm going to work on it for maybe if I
ever come back. And he was really really quite dry
and funny in his videos. He spoke about there was
a federal video and he was like, you know, that
was a really big moment for me. A part of
I feel like a part of me died when he retired.
And I was like, it was actually a really great video.
So you know what, Well Koermarraffa to the world of TikTok.
(25:26):
I'm really excited to see what else. Well else he
posts collaboration Let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, I got an idea. I had this ninety three
year old lady. It's got McCrory's a cycling legend here
in Austria and his mum is a Tipping Point fan
and I had a lovely photo with her on my Instagram.
Would that work on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yes, it would, Yes, it was at the heart with this.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, I don't still.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
I did see that and thought how cute it was.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So the rule is tod if you look at something
and go, well, that's a bit weird, I would put
that one good eye catch.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yeah, and it only happened eventually.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What's going on that video?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
And it was big news when Novak joined TikTok, which
is probably about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So who's next me? Yeah to the world needs more.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Tipping point TikTok top.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
All right, Well, thank you very much everyone for sharing
your eye catching moments.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Now let's check back in with Danny and Duncan and
hear what their title predictions are for Miami this week.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Welcome to Miami, Thanks team Danny. Let's take a look
at the Miami Open. So many fascinating storylines with this tournament.
The big question on everyone's lips can mirror Andreva do
the Sunshine double?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
If she can, I would be very very impressed because
that is such a tough thing to do. You go
from super dry, weak conditions even though of course very slow,
to humidity, chaos, craziness.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Win.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Well, that was a good practice for the players here,
but it's just such a different setup. But that you know,
when you have maybe one or two days to get
used to the conditions, it's just not enough. Even though
you just want Indian Indian walls. You are on such
a high confidence levels are there, but you have to
accept that it's back to fighting, back to you know,
trying to find ways how to get through conditions when
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they are tricky. So if she can do that at
such an early age, I mean, there would be a
very extraordinary thing to do. So I don't expect her
to be able to win the title, but I do
expect her to go quite far.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
And on the men's side, yes, so there'll be no
defending champion at the tournament.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
But who do you like?
Speaker 9 (27:47):
I like her little change chances there. You know, we've
got the Spanish Hispanic crowd going on, great energy, great vibes.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
Saw him.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Actually that was very impressive. The first time we kind
of started to really take note. This was actually that
match Carlita against Singer. I don't know if you remember,
maybe three four years ago, I want to say, and
we all were sitting courtside. It was Tim Henman, Margo Fernandez,
all the TV crew and we are looking at each
other like maybe we play the different sports compared to
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what the guys were doing out there.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I never forget that.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Match, so I defense see his change chance, his big time,
just because the crowd absolutely.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Loves him there.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
What's your favorite memory from playing down in Miami, because
you've actually played a keep us game.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
Right, Yeah, I remember that, even though when I want
my titles here, it was not an easy transition to do,
and you know, I struggled earlier in the first few rounds.
But I do remember I got a nice street to
swim with the Dolphins, which was very special after winning here.
The tournament surprised me with that. And then I got
to dine for the first time in Noble because.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
We are just next to Noble.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
We are and day.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Yeah, absolutely, and so Miami Noble. That was the first
time I really started to be huge fan obviously of
their food and it's just wonderful dining. A lots going on,
So it's not easy to keep your mind on the tennis.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Court in Miami.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
It's you go from one extreme. We are in this
tennis paradise, beautiful flowers, everything is peaceful, kind of bubble
to you know, get back to the chaos and kind
of really hard to focus on the matches because.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
There's just so much going on, but in a.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Very exciting way.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Danny, thanks so much for joining us here on the
tennis and we'll chut to you again soon.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeahhways, a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Now, Todd over in Miami, you've had a bit of
double trouble there. You were the double Sunshine double double
double winner.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, back last century ninety Yeah, my goodness, Mark Goodford
and I. But not easy to do in a sense
of conditions. They are very different in a sense. India
World it is one of the hardest places to play
because daytime, the middle of the day, it gets hot,
it gets dry, and the ball flies. And then at
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about four point thirty in the afternoon, the sun starts
to set. It gets cool, it dampens, and it gets
heavy and it's slow and you gotta put jackets and
tracksuits on it.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh it drops twenty degrees. Wow, Wow, it's a lot.
You know, it can be it can be thirty, it
can be thirty degrees and it'll be down to fifteen,
let's say fifteen degrees. It's cold, So that's that's a
big change within a few hours, a bit like living
in Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Now we do that about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, but then so you take that but generally dry
conditions because you're in the desert. Now you go to
Miami where you get a lot of rain. It's it's
surrounded by you know, the ocean, and it is very heavy,
so completely different. When you talk about balls, the balls
become slightly damp, but it's slightly heavier, slightly fluffier. All
of it is an adjustment. But that's what that's what
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tennis players do. That's what you do with the climate.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You play where you are not just the same man
every time.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And yeah, so it is a completely different environment to play.
And once again in Miami, day to night becomes differ.
Friend it gets very humid in the evening. So it's
a lot damper there. You don't need to wear jackets,
and the temperature doesn't drops.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's going to ring the ball out.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like so you've got to kind of you've got to
make that adjustment. And how to do that you do
a string tension. But also again time on court, so
and understanding that that is the case, and many players
are very bad at going. I ate the conditions, the
balls are no good, the speed's too slow, the court's
too quick. I mean we're great at excuses.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah. Well, because they were known things going into us.
They can't be surprised human it's adaptability.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Wow, so interesting, and how have we started off?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, what happened in school wise?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, for I's you've got Kim Berrell who's had a
good opening round win against Potter Povis. She takes on
Marta Costuk in the second round. Chris O'Connell went down
in Taiwan seventy six in the third to Cabbala's Benya
Schoolgate Tristan Scoy. This is a good one for Yes,
a first round win at a two ornament like that
is big. Takes on Aliazim. Of course we talked about
(32:04):
Rinky a little while ago. He had a big win
to take on Novak. But the one, the big one.
Nikiros has a win shocked nine hundred days since. Yeah, so,
and came from a set down, which is a good
sign as well, because it's it's going to be hard
(32:26):
for him to keep winning matches when when this is
uncertainty and he builds the uncertainty about whether his fits
or not. But to be McKenzie McDonald's is a good win.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Because he's a solid player, right, and plus he'd one matches,
So we talk about equality there, I think, And you
talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Any player of those qualities having two or three matches
under your belt. You got used to being in the conditions,
you're acclimatized. Now it takes on Hatchanov, and he's had
some epics against him, some two big ones, one Distrain
and Open that he won on John Canaerna and one
that he lost at the US Open when he had
a chance of going through to a semi final. So
(33:06):
that's going to be a real test. But then I
don't think Hatchena was playing nearly as well as he
was back in those times as well. So both of
these guys are pulling, pushing for something good to happen.
But I guess for Nick it's recovery, right, how it
does recover from a three setter in tournament play to
(33:31):
be ready to go again. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I reckon the Miami crowds will be on his side
though they're a little rock or something. Oh yeah, yeah,
I would think so.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I think that he's gonna really ignate the crowd of
bet I think he likes doing that.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
He's doing Melbourne. I think he'll do it.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Crowds like curios, right yeah, I mean well if he's entertainment, Yeah,
well like he's he's If they don't, then he makes
them dislike him, which then in turn, weirdly, he turns
them around like him.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's the Medvedev factor.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, you know, I'm going to I'm going to go
at you until you see a bit of humor in
me and.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Then and then I'll laugh and then we're all.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Good making friends. All right, Well, thank you very much
for that little bit of insight. It's time for a
quick break. Don't go anywhere after this. Bree is going
to wow us with a bree Quiz Top five. Oh
I thought it's just going to do a song. Welcome
to Miami. All right, we're back. Where's my camera? Why
(34:32):
am on a different chair? And jesus it's warm? What's
going on?
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Ever?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
High body temper?
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Jet? No?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
What is going on? It is my top five? And
I need to be near the panel because we've got
some amazing producers here who have set me up with
some sounds. Oh, I gets press buttons second Top five?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Is it a quiz top time or what is it?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Well? I have taken some excitement and encouragement from watching
you on Tipping Point. Yeah, shout out to my best
friend who loves Tipping Point brit And we're going to
do a quiz this week. So we heard earlier about
the most one of our favorites that we keep talking
about for the past few weeks, Miro Andreva. So I
(35:13):
wanted to do a quiz on the fact that she
was born in two thousand and seven, just seventeen years ago.
Can you believe that two thousand and seven feels like
yesterday for me?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But anyway, and doing it seventeen it's just we're going.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
To do a history quiz instead of top five, just
key facts. So how good is everyone's two thousand and
seven knowledge?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Where was I? I would have been in year? How
was it? Uni? I'm older than I thought I was.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Out of Uni?
Speaker 11 (35:42):
I was?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I was.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I was in Sydney dancing with the stars.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Okay, I was doing some terrible that's.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Our version of strictly yes, sickly dancing.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I was at a middle school dance so different type
of dance.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
But you know it was probably erring ages.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
You're in Uni. I was in the corporate world in Sydney.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To Todd was dancing, and you're in school.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
I was learning.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You're in high school.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
You were learning. Anyway, let's go okay, number one one.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
We heard about Danny taking out the women's title Indian
Wells in two thousand and seven, but the men's tournament
also proved to be quite monumental. Novak made his first
ever Masters one thousand final, and Roger Federer, who was
on a forty one match streak at the time, lost
in the second round to a lucky loser who'd only
recently returned from a year out of the game. Who
(36:38):
was the lucky loser? Todd, No, okay, we'll have a
clue if necessary.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Than you producer had had a year out of the game.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
From Argentina peak singles ranking of number eight.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Oh, the guy that looks like a Bond villain.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Oh well, I thought del Potro got higher than eight.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, who's I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Artist. You cannot be serious.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Absolutely, he doesn't like But anyway, I'm going to say
the name wrong. But Guillemera Gamo Giamo.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's Yas, thank you.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know I'm bad with names.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That sounded like dessert.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Delicious.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It taken from the trapper Yas Okay cool.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Let's go on to number two. This song was number
one in Australia on the twenty ninth of April two
thousand and seven, the very day Mirror Andreva was born.
I'll give you one point for the artist and one
point for the song title.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well that's a Levine al Levine girl friends? No please,
you won?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Weren't you listening to this?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
And whoa was mine to answer?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I thought you wait?
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Is a Levigne from Australia?
Speaker 10 (38:09):
Or is it top?
Speaker 6 (38:11):
This song was number I was taking a question. I
was going to say the Veronicas untouched?
Speaker 7 (38:18):
That was my feel?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So did that dance when the stars? Toddy?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Let's get onto number three. Who won the women's single
title at AO two thousand and seven? Bonus point for
the runner up?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The posters here and seven.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Let's say Serena Williams defeated Venus.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Okay, you got half point.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Venus beated Serena. No Serena beat to be Sheriff over? Well,
I just wow?
Speaker 7 (38:51):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Okay, Let's keep you fun moving please.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Four, the final one in its series, which book was
published in July two thousand and seven and sold eleven
million copies in its first twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Is it vampires or would Harry Potter? Oh my goodness?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Oh see this is in my when I was million
that deathly Harlow's Maybe or definitely?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
How my goodness?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
These were core memories for me.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
That's why nothing beats Harry Potter. On to five, Let's
bring this home come on? Then ranked number four in
the world, The twenty three year old Kim Cloisters announced
a retirement in May two thousand and seven following the
birth of her daughter. She returned to tennis two years later.
(39:49):
How many more Grand Slams did she win after this comeback?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Too? Obviously?
Speaker 8 (39:55):
This flop here doesn't know?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Wow, I mean I guessed and Toba's confidence she won
KNW so.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yes, so she must have only won one.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
It's three, obviously, it's three.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
It's three.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Three US Open two thousand and nine and two and
then the back to back.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Recall anyway, Well done for participating. You will get a
little of war.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Got a journey, I think Todd probably has a few
notes like shorter questions. Yeah, okay, moving on, it depends.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
I thought I had delivered them pretty good.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That was great.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah, thank you anyway. Anyway, speaking of King Cleisters, she
joined us this week on The sit Down, our other
podcast sister to this one. She dialed in from Indian
Wells and had a chat to match Lope about all
things tennis, success as a mother, and some of the
players she'd love to play with that are on tour
(40:55):
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Let's have a listen, let's go.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Your name comes up a lot, particularly now, because there
are so many big names that have made recent comebacks
to the tour as moms, but you're the only one
that's ever managed to win a Grand Slam. I mean,
obviously Evan Gula gone Back recorded it, but I think
you're the most recent player to win a Grand Slam
as a mum. And we've seen a lot of players
do well and come close, but they've never done what
(41:18):
you did. And I just wonder, Well, it's a hard question,
I guess, but why do you think that is?
Speaker 4 (41:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
I feel like Serena definitely was the one that has
come the closest, right, to winning. I think I don't
know how many finals she made, I think maybe three
or something as a mom when she came back.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (41:43):
I feel I'm so ready for a new mom to
do hold a Grand Slam trophy because I'm proud seeing
you know, so many women in the draw and see
the kids walk around here and seeing in their family
members in the in the player's restaurant, and that's what
it's all about. I mean, I remember the first year.
So when I came back in two thousand and nine,
(42:05):
I came back in Cincinnati and I was playing a
tournament there and there was a player that came up
to me and said, oh, man, I wish I did
with you then, and that I had, you know, the
guts to do it because now mid thirties and I, yeah,
don't have a partner, I've you know kind of yeah,
been playing a career and so it really kind of resent'
(42:26):
like it really made things like sink in for me
and realize like, oh wow, like people, this is an
issue for a lot of women, right, Like I don't know,
like there's so many women where your clock starts sticking
and you feel like you want to start a family.
But at the same time you also feel like, oh,
I've been working, I've been playing tennis for twenty years
or even longer, working to be at this level and
(42:49):
to play the Grand Slams and having sponsors or not,
but like focused on your ranking, and so it's a
tough situation to leave to start a fan family.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Awesome to get Kim on the sit down last week.
Don't forget to queue that up on your podcast app
and listen to the full episode once you finished this one,
available anywhere you listen. Now let's bring it home with
Ace of the Week, where each of us shares a
non tennis highlight. Cannot stress that enough non tennis, keep
it fun. From our week, told you barely watched any
tennis this week. We'll kick us off. What's your race
(43:22):
of the week?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Mys of the Week was actually had a break? Oh, like,
can I say that? Is that allowed to have a
personal break?
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Yep, we actually encourage it.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
The I've gone about that last week.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I went to New Zealand beautiful to play some golf
just north of Auckland, and it was stunning. And so
I've come back exhausted but slightly recharged. Good and so
that's really cool. That was my ace of the week.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
But how's your short game going?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Not bad? Tennis players play golf the way they played tennis.
I don't hit it very far in your place with
a friend. You're a doubles player, well yeah, yeah, you
can have a caddy or somebody.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
But you know Tod's daughter is a professional.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Well no, no, not quite. But she's a good player,
very good player. She wanted to be but it didn't
quite work out. But that's okay. Sorry, yeah, no, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Put his money in bow now.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, But tennis players play golf. I did a very
big serve, so I don't hit the ball that far.
So it means I had good low volleys because the
ball came back so fast at me. How to get that?
So short game is good because you've got to get it,
you know. It's all the same. Yeah, yeah, except they're
stupid in golf. They don't give themselves a second serve.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
It's very true. There's no second chance.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Just drop.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Keep on as many as you want.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
There we found it.
Speaker 9 (44:52):
Good one.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Thank you, Todd Levi the week.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
What do you got mine?
Speaker 6 (44:55):
I went down to Mornington Peninsula and it was just
gorgeous down there. I went with a some friends and
we went to a winery, we went to the beach.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, it was great every weekend for it that you
could do a lot down there. Plenty of wineries, breweries,
gin distillery.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
The Hot Springs which I like to call the humans soup.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
No yeah, no I haven't, but I didn't enjoy it,
so maybeizing.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Fort No, there's two. There's two really big ones down there.
One of them is really really good and one of
them is a bit old. I'm trying to like not
say which ones which? Can you just quickly google defamation
Laura in Australia. That great, so bree keeping keep us going.
What's your ace of the week? My week?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
And I think you'll like this, Todd. I have one
of my good friends is Scottish and she also likes
to do something once a month that pushes us all
out of our comfort zones. So on Saturday we went
to a Scottish Highland Jig meet up at Community Hall
in Brunswick and we learn, yes, yes, we learned the
(45:56):
Scottish jig. It went for two hours that really hot
Saturday night as well. We were sweating and laughing so
hard and it was just so much fun.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Yeah, And we've now booked tickets to go to the
Highland Ball. I'm going to get a tarten.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
You have to find your family Tartan.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
We're Scottish Irish, Yeah, Scottish on one side, Irish on
the other. But yeah, it was so much fun, like
just silly fun.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That's a Scottish motto. Isn't it just silly fun?
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Yeah? Yeah, I really loved it.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
My ace of the week. Probably every podcast everyone listens
to was probably spoken about this. But I cannot stress enough.
There is a four part series on Netflix has just
dropped in the last week or so. It's called Adolescence.
It's a drama.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
I've watched it on the plane.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Is from New Zealand, isn't it as you know, you've
got a son, I've got two young boys, you know,
even as a non parent, I'm sure people can relate that.
It is just so powerful. I refer to it as
kind of this year's Baby Reindeer, that show that no
one really knew about until it hit and then it
took over the world, and then you can't.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Stop thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I haven't seen it, but now I want to anyone
will go for that too. But I got a son
who's in that acting game. So I'm watching the young
guy and I don't know his name yet.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
No one did until this is his first role.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
He was extraordinary, incredible, just he.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Was like wowah. And if you're a cinema lover, the
cinematography in this every episode of around an hour is
a single continuous shot, not made to look like a
single continuous shot. It is legitimately they push the button
on the camera and away they go. And they tried
they attach it to a drone.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Is that supposed to be like a home video feel?
Speaker 1 (47:53):
It's very very high end, but it's more voyeuristic. So
it's taking you on this journey. You're in it.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
Yeah, you felt like you were a part of it.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
And they tried to do you know, because obviously there
would be some mistakes, and they said, we don't want
to do more than ten, like ten takes to get
it all in one take kind of thing, if that
makes sense, And on average they had to do thirteen per.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
Oh wow, it's still so impressive.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
That is still impressive, Yeah, really impressive.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
So yeah, and there is actually there's one mistake that
they left in because it actually yeah where I don't
think this is with the DAT. No, maybe it was
one with the DAT. There was one where the boy
is in a room having an idio with any yawns
because he's just tired he's been working, and the woman
is speaking to who's a psychologist, just quickly comes back,
(48:45):
I'm I boring you. Yeah, and he does his cheeky
little smile and then they move on with that rolling Yeah.
It is just it is powerful, it's insightful. If you
think it's going to be a thriller, don't go into
it with that because it's not a thriller. It is
purely a story told in four parts.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
I think it has so many important lessons in it.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Absolutely this current parents, kids, non parents, teachers.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
With social media, the internet, everything INT's evil.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Don't get toluck and describe the podcast on YouTube. Well
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(49:30):
Thank you so much to the team for coming back here,
both of you. Well for me, bring Carbler. Yeah, that's
been right. Next week, next week we'll have a bake off.
Would be excellent, super cute. Well, thank you very much,
team and that's it for the tennis. See you next week.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Welcome to Miami, Welcome to
The King is not Dead. Nick Curios comes from a
set behind to record his first win since twenty twenty two.
We've got all the letters from around one, packed with
Ossie winners in Miami, new sensations young stars dominated the
headlines at Indian Wells. We take a closer look at
the numbers behind Mirror's rise to the top and quiz
Master Brie. Strap yourselves in because Brie will be taking
us back in time for this week's top five.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
When did Bree become the I thought that was my role.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Of audio audio quiz. Yeah. Plus we can't afford you.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Cheapest chips, Yeah, basically free.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
The fact that she's paying us to be here is
a bit of fun. So as we were saying, Bri
is back in the chair, of course, I'm more of
her co host than she is mine. And across the
deck we've got Tod Woodbridge, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Great to be back. I feel like it's a new life,
it's a new year. Yeah, it's sorry, Johnny, Yeah, it's
great to be back. It's it's been a last few weeks.
Have been finishing off the other game show, the lesser
of the two. Yes, Tipping Point is done for me
for my season. So now it's back onto to tennis,
(01:12):
to rollingd Garos, to all those the next three majors
and everything in between. So back at my roots.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Excellent. You've got a tiny, a little bit of respite
before the tennis will tax over.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Take Paris. It's taken over my How good was it?
I lived in Paris for six weeks last year. I know.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, we've started to think that you were a citizens.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
The Parisian came home with the attitude and everything.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
You've got to get off those ciggies. Todd all right,
and he's more than just a numbers man. He's also
a bit of a baker. Please welcome Levi Hudiston. I thanks, Dave,
really good to have you back.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Baking.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
I did baker carbler recently, which I found out that
maybe that's not a very popular term here carblo.
Speaker 7 (01:54):
But yeah, it's basically.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Would we call it a crumble?
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Maybe a crumble, but it's more bready tarp and then yeah,
some blackberries.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
He made it a cobbler loaf of bread.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Cobb loaf. Oh com I mean my I immediately thought
you were mending shoes.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah, me too, And did it taste right?
Speaker 6 (02:12):
You know, it was a risk because I brought it
in and I hadn't tasted it.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Oh but still here he brought it to work because
it was a birthday.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Oh wow, oh my god, that's so nice. How come
we weren't invited to have.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Any We've been exiled to the foreigner of the.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Like it's like twenty steps away.
Speaker 7 (02:28):
No, that's fair, well, it was. It was a small gathering,
you know.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We didn't want to get too ceremonial.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Forty nine, that's noted. Next time we have birthday cakes,
we won't be sharing.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, and I'm quite happy not to have a birthday,
so scored.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I can't turn forty again. All right, Well should we
jump in with Probably there's some big news here in
the tennis world, the PTPA, in the upcoming lawsuits, and
you know, there's still a little bit of ambiguity. What's happening,
who's doing what, where, what city, what kind? It's been interesting,
to say the least, obviously a very developing story. But Todd,
(03:06):
what are your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I've been around fairwell now, so I've seen some iterations
of these types of things happened throughout the game. So
in my late teens, it was the car park at
the US Open, with the players sort of demanding to
have more say within the schedule, and then getting the
ATP Tour reinvented in a way that it became a
(03:27):
partnership that the players had more say, became equal with
the tournaments. And just reading all of what would you
call it, the dialogue, the facts that are going into
this case, it's going to be a fascinating time. I
think it's sort of just a little shakup. I can't
see any more than that coming out of it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
It's not the first time that there's been a shake
up in professional tennis or even sports now.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
No, and look, if you look at from my perspective
from where we've come to where I was at the
beginning of my career, I mean it's and bounds in
that direction. I mean superannuation packages for players. You know,
we have the smallest amounts. They've got great amounts. I mean,
everything is better. Yet if you read this, you'd be
(04:12):
saying it's so worse, and it's not so. I think
I think it's going to be a hard case to win.
But in terms of winning, winning is opening up discussions
at the table to look at where you can make
things better and you can implement different strategies within the
game that help the game. And in some ways that
(04:35):
might be pulling all of these groups together to go, hey,
let's take a look at that, and let's be honest.
Over the history, a lot of those groups I call
them like an octopus sort of squid that swims and
the tentacles come in and then they're together, and then
they go back out, and then they come back in
and this is a time of like coming together and
they'll have to work together, and then that can only
(04:57):
be good great metaphor, yeah type that.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, but also you're you're if you're watching on YouTube,
you'll see the beautiful pantomime puppetry of Todd being an
octopus or a squid.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Yeah, we'll just make sure that ink doesn't come out right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
They could be a bit of there could be a
bit of that. There's plenty of being put to paper now.
But developing story, I'm sure we'll find out what's going on.
We'll take a little quick break now and after that
we're going to have our little Indian Wells wrap up.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Stick around Banks, Team Danny.
Speaker 8 (05:28):
We have two new Indian worlds, champions on the women's side,
Mirror Andreva and on the men's side, Jack Draper. Let's
start off with the women first, and Mirror. What an
incredible story, a terrific tournament capped off by a remarkable
win over world number one Arena Sabalanca Oh Duncan.
Speaker 9 (05:43):
What the incredible final there was And I don't want
to see anything, but I could feel it coming. I
know Arena was obviously a huge favorite, is going into
this one already beating Mirror twice this year, But there
were just too many similar similarity. Is my first final
really herbecond down the line her favorite shot first time
being in a huge final when I played Hinky Saballenka
(06:07):
one in her semi final six Lave six one, Hingis
one against.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
The six Lave six one.
Speaker 9 (06:11):
Everyone is expecting the number one to win. Hingis was
number one at the time as well, and you know
you're just playing bit free money, there's no pressure on you.
And I was just so impressed mentally how she managed
to turn the match in the second set. It almost
felt like she was getting fled and a little bit down.
Mira on herself, just like she did in Melbourne against Saballenka.
But boy did she turn it around. And from that
(06:32):
second cent onwards, she just got into a little bubble
on her own. She stopped looking at her coach. She
was like, you know what, guys, I've got this. I'm
going to manage to find my way through this match.
And yeah, now she's the youngest one to on this tournament,
which I'm super.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Happy for seventeen years of age, the youngest since Serena
Williams all the way back in nineteen ninety nine. She's
up to world number six now, Danny, could she go
on and win a Grand Slam this year?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Absolutely?
Speaker 7 (06:58):
Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 9 (06:59):
I mean we always feel like she has the game,
but now with her mentality, working with the psychologist and
just really playing my point, I would say even more
impressive was that semi final against Fiante Guere. After that
first second set, losing big time, she just managed to
turn it around like no one and she showed a
lot of mental strength and I think great things are
(07:21):
coming for me this year and.
Speaker 8 (07:23):
A dream run for Jack Drayper Wins of a Jail Phone,
Seca Jensen Brooksby Taylor Fritz, Ben Shelton, car Lost, Hakaraz
and today hol Garuna incredible win.
Speaker 9 (07:34):
I mean talking about Greston potentially, if you're able to
beat all these guys, I mean the locker room is
ready for Jake to have a great year as well.
And the way he was serving in today's final, I mean,
June was doing everything he could. He was fighting, it
was just impossible to find a way how to get
any chance of draper serve and that is going to
(07:55):
be his biggest weapon throughout his career. And physically he
showed us that he can manage the emotions that sometimes affect.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
How he feels on the court.
Speaker 9 (08:04):
And yeah, just never blinked for one second, which is
very impressive thing to do. Because this tournament obviously is
considered as the fifth Grand Slam, and outside the Slams,
this is the one you want to win, so it's
normal to get a little bit overwhelmed. This is the
second biggest stadium the players play at. But both winners
today they just showed so much mental toughness.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Two thousand and seven was a special year.
Speaker 8 (08:26):
It was the year Mirror and Driva was born, and
it was the year that you won your first title
here at Indian Wells. Danny, what do you remember from
those celebrations, were there any.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Or she was just right onto the next tournament.
Speaker 9 (08:38):
Well, there was a plan to take the hot air
balloon next morning, but the trick is you have to
do it like at six am, and we're like, yeah,
that's not gonna happen because we are celebrating quite quite
late that night. I do remember the bed was that
we go to Cheesecake Factory to have cheesecake for some reason.
And then we were a huge fans of Mamagin obviously
one of the best Italians restaurant here on El Pacelway.
We used to go every single night. We had to,
(09:01):
you know, check those boxes and kept the routine, so
we had a busy evening. But it was such fun.
And then yeah, actually my coach thought I was crazy
because I made him practice with me the very next morning.
I was just so happy and we were staking Esmeralda
and there are two tennis cours there and he had
this biggiest breakfast because he thought it's a day off obviously,
(09:21):
but I was like, you know what, let's play and
let's do some cross down the line. And he's like,
are you out of your mind? But that was just me.
And then yeah, as soon as that was done, you know,
straight onto Miami and all the focus is there. But
I do have to say it is a pretty special
feeling when you arrived to Miami by the time everyone
already had three four practice days in and you kind
(09:42):
of walk around a little bit flying about the floor.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Okay, Once a champion, always a champion.
Speaker 8 (09:48):
Guys, five hundred and four thousand people through the gates
here at Indian Wells.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
That is a record.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
We'll be back a little bit later on to do
a preview of the Miami Open.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Big thanks to Danny and Duncan from America. We'll be
hearing from there and again a little later in the show,
But for now we're going to jump into what's caught
your eye? Levi, Duncan and Danny obviously talking about on driver.
She just keeps winning and we'll probably keep talking about
her even more. But is she one of your court
your eye moments?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Yeah, she is.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
I mean, it's really interesting to see how she's developed
and different parts of her game that have changed over time.
So I think the big news that people are all
looking at is Indian well She hit a two hundred
and two Klimna per hour ace, right, and everyone's like wow.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
There was a bit of chat about her not understanding
what a mile was.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
Yeah, I think it was like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
I don't know, is that fast.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
And it's like, yeah, I mean miles such a really
random unit of measurements, so I don't blame her, but yeah,
So she hit that two oh two, and if we
kind of track back and we look at the progression
of that, when she was a junior in twenty twenty three,
she had a one hundred and sixty one and that
was matching the tour average. So even as a junior,
(10:54):
she was matching the tour average, and then each year
just progressively got a big She had a bigger and
bigger serve tele you know, Ao, She's had a one
hundred and seventy seven kilometer per hour serve, so really
massive uptick on the serf, and so she's garnering all
these aces out of that and she's holding serve a
lot easier. So now she's kind of positioning herself as
(11:14):
someone in the top ten who's a big server, with
the likes of Keys and Rebakana. So I think ninety
five aces already this year so.
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Really big serve for her.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Looking at kind of the biomechanics of where that pace
is coming from. We actually looked at her wrist speed
and we saw that she was way above the tour
average at nine point six meters per second compared to
the tour average of six point seven. So she just
has a really quick arm, which I think is maybe
a key ingredient to how she's generating so much pl.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
When you say risk spade, what does that mean? What
kind of like is it when the come down on
the ball kind of thing?
Speaker 7 (11:50):
It would be?
Speaker 6 (11:51):
So we track the movement on the serve, Yeah, how fat?
What's the fastest speed your risk is traveling to impact? Yeah,
to the bowl to the impact. Yeah, And so it's
kind of hard to gauge, like, okay, what is what
is nine point six meters per second? But it's just
nine point six versus six point seven.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
That's a pretty big.
Speaker 6 (12:10):
Gap, right, So she's really outperforming in terms of her
risk speed.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
There a lot of numbers there. What's your risk speed average?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well, it's slowed down.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Can you get to measure rubatoid arthritis?
Speaker 2 (12:24):
It's quite it's quite fascinating to hear that because I
mean I start thinking too, like you're talking risk speed,
I'm thinking that making the racket head travel faster, well,
that would.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Be the leading edge of that racket.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
So that's what's moving. But then also I'm thinking, Okay,
to be able to get that, you got to use
your trunk, you got to use your legs. And so
there's that whole technical aspect to her serve that has
really changed and is changing in women's tennis. And I
go back to the likes of Serena you mentioned as
I think as one of those, but even a Sam Stosa,
(12:56):
they changed the way that women actually come into the
ball with the racquet heead right, so coming more underneath,
it gets up and open and gets a trajector that
you can then hit harder, get it up and in
a lot of women's tennis for many has been dead
flat or around the outside of the ball, which is
harder to really go at it or you don't have
the speed. So it's really indicating to me that as
(13:19):
a young player, the technique and the training and everything
is starting to lift the women's game to different levels
than what it's ever been before. Because those numbers are
really big, and.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
It's not just her serve.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
I mean, you look at other aspects of her game,
you know, it's interesting to even look at her return.
When she was a junior, she was you know, facing
other juniors, and she was taking the second serve return
really close to the baseline. But then when she got
into the main draw in twenty twenty four, she's taking
that second serve two to three meters behind the baseline.
Now she's more comfortable twenty twenty five, she's within a
(13:56):
meter of the baseline, so she's just putting more pressure
on the opponent's serve.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Again, that's physicality of strength for her. Also body body strength.
Speaker 6 (14:04):
Yeah, I mean, she's she's just I think she entered
into the mendra and now she's like not just entering
in as the new person, but she's she's attacking people's
serves and she's been incredibly.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
She's a name, she's a recognized one.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Oh absolutely, and she it was it was inevitable for
me for her to be starting to do this because
I think in the commentary box you say it's like
it was like watching a young Martina Hingis, but so
so Martina Hingis even when you go watch her to day,
has this incredible ball control and ie for the court.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
A craft.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
It's called court craft, and you can't necessarily teach that
you get better at it, but there's an instinctive way
about playing and that's what she has had all the
way through juniors and the breakthroughs in Roland Garross and
at Wimbledon. And then now you put that with the power.
So when Martina was at her best, she ended up
(14:56):
getting blown away by Lindsay Davenport and the William City
and she couldn't hang on because she didn't have the physicality.
And Andreva's been able to have this court craft, add
that in and.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
With her strength and then being craft.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And when it comes down to these big matches that
she's going to start playing in her career and you
get to semis and finals of Grand Slam tournaments, she
then has this ability to be able to go to
Plan B or Plan C in a big match and
we don't see something just fall over because my game's
not working today. So that's where she's just going to
(15:36):
just keep I mean, she'll be a number one in
the world.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
And I wondered too combined, like she's got Concheta in
her corner and she made some comments about how she's
made it further than con Cheetah has in terms of
that tournament. And then I feel like mentally, Andreva for
a young girl, is quite strong, Like she's got a
very good perspective on life, because I know even we
saw I think on like news coverage that she has
(16:03):
a she had a notebook and she was writing notes
during the matches and she had the opponent's names at.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
The top of.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And you've got to have that, you have to four seventeen.
I can't tell you what I was like because I
was not her. You know, No, you don't want to know.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
The other thing about Concheta you mentioned her is that
obviously she's got a good gift Andreva of being able
to absorb the info, and Concheta has done it. She's
been there, she knows the pitfall, she knows the feelings
of anxiety and what and what it's like. So she's
able to have those conversations with her athlete. And she
also coached one of the best woman finals that's ever
(16:40):
been played, but with Muga Rutha in a final at Wimbledon,
who just tactically came out and played the most perfect match,
and so you've got somebody with a sharp mind who's
been there before and an athlete that's willing to respect
and absorb.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
What a combo. Yeah, it sounds like she's caught everybody's
eye and we'll continue to do so. Sticking with you, Todd,
what else caught your eye this week?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Well, I mean it's about Novak coming coming back again.
Hasn't won since Australian Open, a match that is as
want to set. But he takes on You need a
few of those things. You do need two of them. Opcially,
he's taking on austral as Rinky hitchkater and going to
be tough for Ricky.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
But I guess that's it's not as clear cut as
that though, No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Yeah, right now, Rinky is a really good solid player.
Now you know, he's a good all court player and
loves playing on the hard cuts in the US that's
where he's had his success. But really, you know, the
focus in the eyes are watching Novak to see what's
going to happen here. You know, how long does he
go playing? Really? I guess subpar for him for most
(17:53):
people on the scale of Novak, Let's be fair to
him because you don't go into a tournament to be
when you've been him to be making third or fourth round.
You got to win. And a lot of great champions
start to go, what am I doing here? If I'm
playing like this and you start to second guess yourself,
it's out to doubt yourself. And there's a little bit
(18:14):
of that feeling around and you know where that feeling
starts in the locker room, because every one of those guys,
including Rinky's, looked at him, going, well, I've got a
chance I do have.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
A great time in a while.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, that's and that's the predicament that novaks in, and
that's what he has to start, you know, finding a
way to win matches. Again, there's only one way to
do that, and that's keep turning up at tournaments. And
then that's hard too. When you've been you've built a
schedule based on I'm so good I can turn up
and win. Now that's not happening. So he's going to
(18:49):
have to play a lot of events from now through
the Rolling Gaross. If he wants to win any of
the majors this year. He can't go in and play
three three tournaments.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
So is this the beginning of the end or is
this time for change.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
Is that's totally up to Novak. That's not my call.
Don't try and get me to.
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Make watching the beginning of the end for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
It's an inevitable thing, right. It's the same as you
know is buying mechanics and with speed and it's possible
cyborg Novak for the win. The hardest part, and when
you talk about buiomechanics and the body is how do
you get somebody to train do all the stuff that
he does so well the one percents you know from
everywhere from the watery drinks to the yoga to this
(19:34):
to that, But you can't replicate match play and that
little bit harder that you go into a corner to
get a ball out of the little micro tears that happened.
The recovery isn't as swift as it once was. And
they're the things that we started to see both with
Roger first then with Raffa and then maybe the wear
and tear is starting to catch up with him as well.
(19:57):
And then it becomes about how much you can keep
yourself out there, Because I think it's about the tournaments.
Do I want to go to Barcelona. Do I want
to go to the smaller events that is going to
have to do to get the match wins, to get
body fit, body match fit, they're the big questions coming
over there. I mean it is joy months, it is
(20:20):
still on the plane.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Mate, but can the body maintain that?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, I think that's the question.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
By walking coconut, and imagine if you had to be
on a court for six hours a day training, Like
I know, I'm not an athlete, but like.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I'm cod's playing a green M and M.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Green screen.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You'll just be exactly in company line from the floatinghead
of tennisis and millback. Everyone. Well, that's very inscrhful. Good
on you to thank you for that. Now caught my eye.
I was thinking long and hard about this one, and
I always love a good good news story, something a
little bit not a puff piece, but the you know,
the dog at the end of the news, the squirrel
on the water ski that sort of thing. So al
Karaz he's just the nicest folk. He's got a smile
(21:04):
that could launch a thousand ships. But you know, victory
in defeat, he always is humble. So looking back to
the Australian Open this year, Draper, who he was up against.
His young career was marred by injury. He was forced
to retire from his fourth round match here against al
Karaz at the Australian Open, and then afterwards a Karaz
penned a lovely little message on the camera with his
(21:26):
blue Texter to send a message of love and support
to him. Now flash forward just two months ago. Two
months later, sorry, Draper then beats al Koraz in the
semi final in Indian Wells and secured a ten top
ten ranking for the first time ever. So it really
just shows al Karaz is just nicet blown tennis at
the moment. Proved me wrong silence.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
And anyone will contest that good.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
No he there's always a biomechanical reason.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
His grin it's fake. We've measured the tooth.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
Speed, tooth speedything to do with stat but this is
more to banidotal.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
Yeah, he beggd.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
We call that nic data.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
No.
Speaker 6 (22:08):
I was a member of this tennis club and he
just happened to stop by because it was near the
Naked campus in Portland, Oregon, where I kind of lived
for a while, and he just stopped by and was
watching like I think it was Indian Wells at the time.
Just with everybody else, he didn't even make a presence.
People weren't even like, you know, taking pictures or anything
like that. And then people realized it with him and yeah,
(22:30):
he signed everyone's autographs there. It was just he was
so nice. He is nice, the nicest guy.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
What do you think of him? Told me she would
have much more like we're always making him do stuff
in front whenever.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
We're working with him, we've got a camera. What's he
really like?
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Incredibly well mannered no matter what, because even when he
was here for the AO, he's become a golf tragic
and he's been out. He was out golfing every other
day that he was here, playing nine holes on his
off day, and he's traveled out to all the lovely
course is and everybody that met him in those environments
(23:03):
he was the same as what you're saying. So you know,
you just got to hope he's able to maintain keep
that because it's hard. Don't become jaded, no, but it's
the people around you that don't let you be something
that you shouldn't be. And that's the team that he's
got he's not allowed to be like that. So you know,
(23:24):
kudos to one Carlos, to his parents, to everybody there
that said no, no, treat everybody the same way. And
it's great. I mean, he's so good for our sports
because the next generation of kids are looking up to him,
going that's what I have to be like. So he's
(23:45):
he's done that by watching.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Who just another former nicest guy in tennis but countryman. Yeah, absolutely, well,
last I to catch do you bring well?
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Speaking of Rafa and obviously I'm going the very high
brow tennis news As per usual, Rafa has joined.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
TikTok finally.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
And yeah, are you on TikTok. He's also done it
with in collaboration with TikTok, which is really interesting as well.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So he was going to get a check.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
I don't know if there's been money exchange, but they
have done it together. You can tell. He put up
three videos in the space of less than forty eight hours.
He's got two hundred and ten thousand followers. Be interesting
to see what it's on. You know, by the time
that this pod goes live, he did a video. He's
done three, but one of the videos I liked is
(24:44):
that They showed him some of the top videos his
fans have posted on TikTok and he they recorded him
watching them, and there was a video on his water
bottle placement. There's a video on what he does before
his matches, and he said, oh, yeah, it's really annoying.
It goes for long, doesn't it. I needed it to focus.
(25:04):
I'm going to work on it for maybe if I
ever come back. And he was really really quite dry
and funny in his videos. He spoke about there was
a federal video and he was like, you know, that
was a really big moment for me. A part of
I feel like a part of me died when he retired.
And I was like, it was actually a really great video.
So you know what, Well Koermarraffa to the world of TikTok.
(25:26):
I'm really excited to see what else. Well else he
posts collaboration Let's go.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, I got an idea. I had this ninety three
year old lady. It's got McCrory's a cycling legend here
in Austria and his mum is a Tipping Point fan
and I had a lovely photo with her on my Instagram.
Would that work on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Yes, it would, Yes, it was at the heart with this.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Yeah, I don't still.
Speaker 5 (25:54):
I did see that and thought how cute it was.
Speaker 10 (25:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
So the rule is tod if you look at something
and go, well, that's a bit weird, I would put
that one good eye catch.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Yeah, and it only happened eventually.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
What's going on that video?
Speaker 5 (26:09):
And it was big news when Novak joined TikTok, which
is probably about a year ago.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
So who's next me? Yeah to the world needs more.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
Tipping point TikTok top.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
All right, Well, thank you very much everyone for sharing
your eye catching moments.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Good stuff.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Now let's check back in with Danny and Duncan and
hear what their title predictions are for Miami this week.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
Welcome to Miami, Thanks team Danny. Let's take a look
at the Miami Open. So many fascinating storylines with this tournament.
The big question on everyone's lips can mirror Andreva do
the Sunshine double?
Speaker 9 (26:52):
If she can, I would be very very impressed because
that is such a tough thing to do. You go
from super dry, weak conditions even though of course very slow,
to humidity, chaos, craziness.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Win.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
Well, that was a good practice for the players here,
but it's just such a different setup. But that you know,
when you have maybe one or two days to get
used to the conditions, it's just not enough. Even though
you just want Indian Indian walls. You are on such
a high confidence levels are there, but you have to
accept that it's back to fighting, back to you know,
trying to find ways how to get through conditions when
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they are tricky. So if she can do that at
such an early age, I mean, there would be a
very extraordinary thing to do. So I don't expect her
to be able to win the title, but I do
expect her to go quite far.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
And on the men's side, yes, so there'll be no
defending champion at the tournament.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
But who do you like?
Speaker 9 (27:47):
I like her little change chances there. You know, we've
got the Spanish Hispanic crowd going on, great energy, great vibes.
Speaker 11 (27:56):
Saw him.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Actually that was very impressive. The first time we kind
of started to really take note. This was actually that
match Carlita against Singer. I don't know if you remember,
maybe three four years ago, I want to say, and
we all were sitting courtside. It was Tim Henman, Margo Fernandez,
all the TV crew and we are looking at each
other like maybe we play the different sports compared to
(28:18):
what the guys were doing out there.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
I never forget that.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Match, so I defense see his change chance, his big time,
just because the crowd absolutely.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Loves him there.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
What's your favorite memory from playing down in Miami, because
you've actually played a keep us game.
Speaker 9 (28:31):
Right, Yeah, I remember that, even though when I want
my titles here, it was not an easy transition to do,
and you know, I struggled earlier in the first few rounds.
But I do remember I got a nice street to
swim with the Dolphins, which was very special after winning here.
The tournament surprised me with that. And then I got
to dine for the first time in Noble because.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
We are just next to Noble.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
We are and day.
Speaker 9 (28:56):
Yeah, absolutely, and so Miami Noble. That was the first
time I really started to be huge fan obviously of
their food and it's just wonderful dining. A lots going on,
So it's not easy to keep your mind on the tennis.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Court in Miami.
Speaker 9 (29:09):
It's you go from one extreme. We are in this
tennis paradise, beautiful flowers, everything is peaceful, kind of bubble
to you know, get back to the chaos and kind
of really hard to focus on the matches because.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
There's just so much going on, but in a.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Very exciting way.
Speaker 8 (29:24):
Danny, thanks so much for joining us here on the
tennis and we'll chut to you again soon.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeahhways, a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Now, Todd over in Miami, you've had a bit of
double trouble there. You were the double Sunshine double double
double winner.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Yeah, back last century ninety Yeah, my goodness, Mark Goodford
and I. But not easy to do in a sense
of conditions. They are very different in a sense. India
World it is one of the hardest places to play
because daytime, the middle of the day, it gets hot,
it gets dry, and the ball flies. And then at
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about four point thirty in the afternoon, the sun starts
to set. It gets cool, it dampens, and it gets
heavy and it's slow and you gotta put jackets and
tracksuits on it.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh it drops twenty degrees. Wow, Wow, it's a lot.
You know, it can be it can be thirty, it
can be thirty degrees and it'll be down to fifteen,
let's say fifteen degrees. It's cold, So that's that's a
big change within a few hours, a bit like living
in Melbourne.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
Now we do that about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, but then so you take that but generally dry
conditions because you're in the desert. Now you go to
Miami where you get a lot of rain. It's it's
surrounded by you know, the ocean, and it is very heavy,
so completely different. When you talk about balls, the balls
become slightly damp, but it's slightly heavier, slightly fluffier. All
of it is an adjustment. But that's what that's what
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tennis players do. That's what you do with the climate.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You play where you are not just the same man
every time.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And yeah, so it is a completely different environment to play.
And once again in Miami, day to night becomes differ.
Friend it gets very humid in the evening. So it's
a lot damper there. You don't need to wear jackets,
and the temperature doesn't drops.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It's going to ring the ball out.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Like so you've got to kind of you've got to
make that adjustment. And how to do that you do
a string tension. But also again time on court, so
and understanding that that is the case, and many players
are very bad at going. I ate the conditions, the
balls are no good, the speed's too slow, the court's
too quick. I mean we're great at excuses.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah. Well, because they were known things going into us.
They can't be surprised human it's adaptability.
Speaker 5 (31:35):
Wow, so interesting, and how have we started off?
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, what happened in school wise?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, for I's you've got Kim Berrell who's had a
good opening round win against Potter Povis. She takes on
Marta Costuk in the second round. Chris O'Connell went down
in Taiwan seventy six in the third to Cabbala's Benya
Schoolgate Tristan Scoy. This is a good one for Yes,
a first round win at a two ornament like that
is big. Takes on Aliazim. Of course we talked about
(32:04):
Rinky a little while ago. He had a big win
to take on Novak. But the one, the big one.
Nikiros has a win shocked nine hundred days since. Yeah, so,
and came from a set down, which is a good
sign as well, because it's it's going to be hard
(32:26):
for him to keep winning matches when when this is
uncertainty and he builds the uncertainty about whether his fits
or not. But to be McKenzie McDonald's is a good win.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Because he's a solid player, right, and plus he'd one matches,
So we talk about equality there, I think, And you
talk about.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Any player of those qualities having two or three matches
under your belt. You got used to being in the conditions,
you're acclimatized. Now it takes on Hatchanov, and he's had
some epics against him, some two big ones, one Distrain
and Open that he won on John Canaerna and one
that he lost at the US Open when he had
a chance of going through to a semi final. So
(33:06):
that's going to be a real test. But then I
don't think Hatchena was playing nearly as well as he
was back in those times as well. So both of
these guys are pulling, pushing for something good to happen.
But I guess for Nick it's recovery, right, how it
does recover from a three setter in tournament play to
(33:31):
be ready to go again. So we'll see.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
I reckon the Miami crowds will be on his side
though they're a little rock or something. Oh yeah, yeah,
I would think so.
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I think that he's gonna really ignate the crowd of
bet I think he likes doing that.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
He's doing Melbourne. I think he'll do it.
Speaker 11 (33:45):
Crowds like curios, right yeah, I mean well if he's entertainment, Yeah,
well like he's he's If they don't, then he makes
them dislike him, which then in turn, weirdly, he turns
them around like him.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's the Medvedev factor.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, you know, I'm going to I'm going to go
at you until you see a bit of humor in
me and.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Then and then I'll laugh and then we're all.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Good making friends. All right, Well, thank you very much
for that little bit of insight. It's time for a
quick break. Don't go anywhere after this. Bree is going
to wow us with a bree Quiz Top five. Oh
I thought it's just going to do a song. Welcome
to Miami. All right, we're back. Where's my camera? Why
(34:32):
am on a different chair? And jesus it's warm? What's
going on?
Speaker 9 (34:34):
Ever?
Speaker 5 (34:35):
High body temper?
Speaker 9 (34:36):
Jet? No?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
What is going on? It is my top five? And
I need to be near the panel because we've got
some amazing producers here who have set me up with
some sounds. Oh, I gets press buttons second Top five?
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Is it a quiz top time or what is it?
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Well? I have taken some excitement and encouragement from watching
you on Tipping Point. Yeah, shout out to my best
friend who loves Tipping Point brit And we're going to
do a quiz this week. So we heard earlier about
the most one of our favorites that we keep talking
about for the past few weeks, Miro Andreva. So I
(35:13):
wanted to do a quiz on the fact that she
was born in two thousand and seven, just seventeen years ago.
Can you believe that two thousand and seven feels like
yesterday for me?
Speaker 1 (35:24):
But anyway, and doing it seventeen it's just we're going.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
To do a history quiz instead of top five, just
key facts. So how good is everyone's two thousand and
seven knowledge?
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Well?
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Where was I? I would have been in year? How
was it? Uni? I'm older than I thought I was.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
Out of Uni?
Speaker 11 (35:42):
I was?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I was.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
I was in Sydney dancing with the stars.
Speaker 5 (35:47):
Okay, I was doing some terrible that's.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Our version of strictly yes, sickly dancing.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
I was at a middle school dance so different type
of dance.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
But you know it was probably erring ages.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
You're in Uni. I was in the corporate world in Sydney.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
To Todd was dancing, and you're in school.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
I was learning.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
You're in high school.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
You were learning. Anyway, let's go okay, number one one.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
We heard about Danny taking out the women's title Indian
Wells in two thousand and seven, but the men's tournament
also proved to be quite monumental. Novak made his first
ever Masters one thousand final, and Roger Federer, who was
on a forty one match streak at the time, lost
in the second round to a lucky loser who'd only
recently returned from a year out of the game. Who
(36:38):
was the lucky loser? Todd, No, okay, we'll have a
clue if necessary.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Than you producer had had a year out of the game.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
From Argentina peak singles ranking of number eight.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Oh, the guy that looks like a Bond villain.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Oh well, I thought del Potro got higher than eight.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, who's I don't know.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Artist. You cannot be serious.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Absolutely, he doesn't like But anyway, I'm going to say
the name wrong. But Guillemera Gamo Giamo.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It's Yas, thank you.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know I'm bad with names.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
That sounded like dessert.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Delicious.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
It taken from the trapper Yas Okay cool.
Speaker 5 (37:29):
Let's go on to number two. This song was number
one in Australia on the twenty ninth of April two
thousand and seven, the very day Mirror Andreva was born.
I'll give you one point for the artist and one
point for the song title.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well that's a Levine al Levine girl friends? No please,
you won?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Weren't you listening to this?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
And whoa was mine to answer?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I thought you wait?
Speaker 7 (38:08):
Is a Levigne from Australia?
Speaker 10 (38:09):
Or is it top?
Speaker 6 (38:11):
This song was number I was taking a question. I
was going to say the Veronicas untouched?
Speaker 7 (38:18):
That was my feel?
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So did that dance when the stars? Toddy?
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Let's get onto number three. Who won the women's single
title at AO two thousand and seven? Bonus point for
the runner up?
Speaker 1 (38:33):
The posters here and seven.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Let's say Serena Williams defeated Venus.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Okay, you got half point.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Venus beated Serena. No Serena beat to be Sheriff over? Well,
I just wow?
Speaker 7 (38:51):
There we go.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Okay, Let's keep you fun moving please.
Speaker 5 (38:56):
Four, the final one in its series, which book was
published in July two thousand and seven and sold eleven
million copies in its first twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Is it vampires or would Harry Potter? Oh my goodness?
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Oh see this is in my when I was million
that deathly Harlow's Maybe or definitely?
Speaker 5 (39:22):
How my goodness?
Speaker 7 (39:27):
These were core memories for me.
Speaker 5 (39:28):
That's why nothing beats Harry Potter. On to five, Let's
bring this home come on? Then ranked number four in
the world, The twenty three year old Kim Cloisters announced
a retirement in May two thousand and seven following the
birth of her daughter. She returned to tennis two years later.
(39:49):
How many more Grand Slams did she win after this comeback?
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Too? Obviously?
Speaker 8 (39:55):
This flop here doesn't know?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
Wow, I mean I guessed and Toba's confidence she won
KNW so.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yes, so she must have only won one.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
It's three, obviously, it's three.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
It's three.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
Three US Open two thousand and nine and two and
then the back to back.
Speaker 7 (40:20):
Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (40:21):
Recall anyway, Well done for participating. You will get a
little of war.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Got a journey, I think Todd probably has a few
notes like shorter questions. Yeah, okay, moving on, it depends.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
I thought I had delivered them pretty good.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That was great.
Speaker 5 (40:34):
Yeah, thank you anyway. Anyway, speaking of King Cleisters, she
joined us this week on The sit Down, our other
podcast sister to this one. She dialed in from Indian
Wells and had a chat to match Lope about all
things tennis, success as a mother, and some of the
players she'd love to play with that are on tour
(40:55):
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Let's have a listen, let's go.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Your name comes up a lot, particularly now, because there
are so many big names that have made recent comebacks
to the tour as moms, but you're the only one
that's ever managed to win a Grand Slam. I mean,
obviously Evan Gula gone Back recorded it, but I think
you're the most recent player to win a Grand Slam
as a mum. And we've seen a lot of players
do well and come close, but they've never done what
(41:18):
you did. And I just wonder, Well, it's a hard question,
I guess, but why do you think that is?
Speaker 4 (41:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (41:27):
I feel like Serena definitely was the one that has
come the closest, right, to winning. I think I don't
know how many finals she made, I think maybe three
or something as a mom when she came back.
Speaker 5 (41:42):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 10 (41:43):
I feel I'm so ready for a new mom to
do hold a Grand Slam trophy because I'm proud seeing
you know, so many women in the draw and see
the kids walk around here and seeing in their family
members in the in the player's restaurant, and that's what
it's all about. I mean, I remember the first year.
So when I came back in two thousand and nine,
(42:05):
I came back in Cincinnati and I was playing a
tournament there and there was a player that came up
to me and said, oh, man, I wish I did
with you then, and that I had, you know, the
guts to do it because now mid thirties and I, yeah,
don't have a partner, I've you know kind of yeah,
been playing a career and so it really kind of resent'
(42:26):
like it really made things like sink in for me
and realize like, oh wow, like people, this is an
issue for a lot of women, right, Like I don't know,
like there's so many women where your clock starts sticking
and you feel like you want to start a family.
But at the same time you also feel like, oh,
I've been working, I've been playing tennis for twenty years
or even longer, working to be at this level and
(42:49):
to play the Grand Slams and having sponsors or not,
but like focused on your ranking, and so it's a
tough situation to leave to start a fan family.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Awesome to get Kim on the sit down last week.
Don't forget to queue that up on your podcast app
and listen to the full episode once you finished this one,
available anywhere you listen. Now let's bring it home with
Ace of the Week, where each of us shares a
non tennis highlight. Cannot stress that enough non tennis, keep
it fun. From our week, told you barely watched any
tennis this week. We'll kick us off. What's your race
(43:22):
of the week?
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Mys of the Week was actually had a break? Oh, like,
can I say that? Is that allowed to have a
personal break?
Speaker 5 (43:29):
Yep, we actually encourage it.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
The I've gone about that last week.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
I went to New Zealand beautiful to play some golf
just north of Auckland, and it was stunning. And so
I've come back exhausted but slightly recharged. Good and so
that's really cool. That was my ace of the week.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
But how's your short game going?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
Not bad? Tennis players play golf the way they played tennis.
I don't hit it very far in your place with
a friend. You're a doubles player, well yeah, yeah, you
can have a caddy or somebody.
Speaker 5 (44:04):
But you know Tod's daughter is a professional.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
Well no, no, not quite. But she's a good player,
very good player. She wanted to be but it didn't
quite work out. But that's okay. Sorry, yeah, no, that's fine.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Put his money in bow now.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, But tennis players play golf. I did a very
big serve, so I don't hit the ball that far.
So it means I had good low volleys because the
ball came back so fast at me. How to get that?
So short game is good because you've got to get it,
you know. It's all the same. Yeah, yeah, except they're
stupid in golf. They don't give themselves a second serve.
Speaker 5 (44:41):
It's very true. There's no second chance.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
Just drop.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Keep on as many as you want.
Speaker 7 (44:48):
There we found it.
Speaker 9 (44:52):
Good one.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Thank you, Todd Levi the week.
Speaker 7 (44:53):
What do you got mine?
Speaker 6 (44:55):
I went down to Mornington Peninsula and it was just
gorgeous down there. I went with a some friends and
we went to a winery, we went to the beach.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, it was great every weekend for it that you
could do a lot down there. Plenty of wineries, breweries,
gin distillery.
Speaker 5 (45:08):
The Hot Springs which I like to call the humans soup.
Speaker 6 (45:11):
No yeah, no I haven't, but I didn't enjoy it,
so maybeizing.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Fort No, there's two. There's two really big ones down there.
One of them is really really good and one of
them is a bit old. I'm trying to like not
say which ones which? Can you just quickly google defamation
Laura in Australia. That great, so bree keeping keep us going.
What's your ace of the week? My week?
Speaker 5 (45:33):
And I think you'll like this, Todd. I have one
of my good friends is Scottish and she also likes
to do something once a month that pushes us all
out of our comfort zones. So on Saturday we went
to a Scottish Highland Jig meet up at Community Hall
in Brunswick and we learn, yes, yes, we learned the
(45:56):
Scottish jig. It went for two hours that really hot
Saturday night as well. We were sweating and laughing so
hard and it was just so much fun.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:09):
Yeah, And we've now booked tickets to go to the
Highland Ball. I'm going to get a tarten.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
You have to find your family Tartan.
Speaker 5 (46:23):
We're Scottish Irish, Yeah, Scottish on one side, Irish on
the other. But yeah, it was so much fun, like
just silly fun.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
That's great.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
That's a Scottish motto. Isn't it just silly fun?
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Yeah? Yeah, I really loved it.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
My ace of the week. Probably every podcast everyone listens
to was probably spoken about this. But I cannot stress enough.
There is a four part series on Netflix has just
dropped in the last week or so. It's called Adolescence.
It's a drama.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
I've watched it on the plane.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Is from New Zealand, isn't it as you know, you've
got a son, I've got two young boys, you know,
even as a non parent, I'm sure people can relate that.
It is just so powerful. I refer to it as
kind of this year's Baby Reindeer, that show that no
one really knew about until it hit and then it
took over the world, and then you can't.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Stop thinking about it.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
I haven't seen it, but now I want to anyone
will go for that too. But I got a son
who's in that acting game. So I'm watching the young
guy and I don't know his name yet.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
No one did until this is his first role.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
He was extraordinary, incredible, just he.
Speaker 1 (47:33):
Was like wowah. And if you're a cinema lover, the
cinematography in this every episode of around an hour is
a single continuous shot, not made to look like a
single continuous shot. It is legitimately they push the button
on the camera and away they go. And they tried
they attach it to a drone.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Is that supposed to be like a home video feel?
Speaker 1 (47:53):
It's very very high end, but it's more voyeuristic. So
it's taking you on this journey. You're in it.
Speaker 5 (47:59):
Yeah, you felt like you were a part of it.
Speaker 10 (48:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (48:02):
And they tried to do you know, because obviously there
would be some mistakes, and they said, we don't want
to do more than ten, like ten takes to get
it all in one take kind of thing, if that
makes sense, And on average they had to do thirteen per.
Speaker 7 (48:18):
Oh wow, it's still so impressive.
Speaker 5 (48:20):
That is still impressive, Yeah, really impressive.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
So yeah, and there is actually there's one mistake that
they left in because it actually yeah where I don't
think this is with the DAT. No, maybe it was
one with the DAT. There was one where the boy
is in a room having an idio with any yawns
because he's just tired he's been working, and the woman
is speaking to who's a psychologist, just quickly comes back,
(48:45):
I'm I boring you. Yeah, and he does his cheeky
little smile and then they move on with that rolling Yeah.
It is just it is powerful, it's insightful. If you
think it's going to be a thriller, don't go into
it with that because it's not a thriller. It is
purely a story told in four parts.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
I think it has so many important lessons in it.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Absolutely this current parents, kids, non parents, teachers.
Speaker 5 (49:05):
With social media, the internet, everything INT's evil.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Don't get toluck and describe the podcast on YouTube. Well
that's it for the Tennis this week. Thank you all
for being a part of the show. Join us again
next week we'll be getting into the pointy end of
proceedings in Miami. And don't forget you can watch this
episode in all episodes of The Tennis on our YouTube
Channel Australian and TV and while you're there, be sure
to hit the bell, subscribe, do all those sorts of things.
You can be a part of the tennis all year long.
(49:30):
Thank you so much to the team for coming back here,
both of you. Well for me, bring Carbler. Yeah, that's
been right. Next week, next week we'll have a bake off.
Would be excellent, super cute. Well, thank you very much,
team and that's it for the tennis. See you next week.
Speaker 5 (49:50):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (49:50):
Welcome to Miami, Welcome to
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