April 3, 2025 • 46 mins
Miami has crowned new champions Jakub Mensik and Aryna Sabalenka to farewell the hard-court season. Danielle Collins was unable to defend her title but left with a surprise addition to her family. Over on the green clay courts of Charleston, Daria Kasatkina has claimed her first win playing under the Australian flag. Todd Woodbridge and Sam Stosur join Xavier Muhlebach and Brie Stewart in studio and Nick McCarvel dials in from Charleston to give us the court-side scoop.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello and welcome to the tennis once again.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Today on the show, Jak of mensig ouse his childhood
hero Novak Djokovic world number twelve. Daria Kasakina records her
first win representing Australia and Clacys and kicks off. Nick
mccarvill joins us direct from Charleston. All that more, I'm
zav muleback, your host for the week, joined once again
by Brace Stewart loves a bit of the social media.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey don't break, I'm good, thank you, Good to be
here always.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And across the desk couple of birthday people. Winner of
the Year Normal Xavi is Nicest Person in Tennis Award
Sam Stoza, thank you and runner up to.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But I do believe we have birthday celebrations. Where's thank you?
I kicked off there forgot my own cake.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Here we are it was his own direction.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm so excited. I was on a sugar rush and
I hadn't even eaten it yet.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Can we.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is copyright still a thing? Let's not biscuits? Yeah, so
really excited. It's gonna hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh well, I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I was not expecting that. I did see the hat, but.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Nothing really must be a prop. So how are you?
Birthday weeks?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It was actually great. Yeah, it was going to be
my ace of the week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I just can't believe how old I'm getting. Neither can wait.
I just look at it and go, what is still
up and about?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh? Yeah trying.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't think you're old.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
No, no, he's married. No, it's yeah, it just Jesus
flies around quick.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What number did you hit?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Fifty four? Really? Okay? No, you are look pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, thanks, But anyway, it's it's nice to have
one with my well, you know, birthday so close with my.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes, former mixed doubles partner here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Surely this is an annual celebration get together the two
of you. Yeah, we'll make it that from now. Okay, good,
now that we get cake and hat. Now, if you
could give each other one birthday wish?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What would it be? Sam? You go first? What would
you wish for Todd?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
More holidays?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, that's fairly appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That would be nice. What would I wish for Sam?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
BJK?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
BJK Cup victory in a couple of weeks? What would
I wish for you? Sam?
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I'd be happy with more holidays too, that'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
All right, Well, thank you very much for joining us
for another week of the tennis. A lot to discuss.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm going to take my hat off because it's cutting into.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
My third chin. I'm going to drop it here. Here
you go, next to the cake. All right, Well, let's
jump straight in. What's caught your eye now? Big one
for me?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Australian Open, Australian Tennis. We're in Australia. This is the
Ale Original Tennis podcast. God new was he in a way?
I noticed that? Charleston. There's a new Australia flag at
the wt A event. Daria Kazakina now permanent resident of Australia.
How did this happen? What have we got?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Do we have a new Aussie or is that still
in the mix?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Sam, You've got a pretty good understanding of how it's
all coming together.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Well, so she is a permanent resident now in Australia,
and I have to say very happy for her that
she can call Australia home now and feel like this
is going to be her new home and new country
to represent. So I'm really please for her, super happy
that she's been able to come to that decision, but yeah,
she is only a permanent resident at the moment, so
(03:36):
WTA have approved her to play under the Aussie flag,
which is really great, but there's obviously still a few
things that need to time pass and things to be
done for her to be a citizen, get a passport
and you know, eventually be able to play on the
BJK Cup team because.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
There's very different rules and requirements at WTA events if so,
you know, there's still a bit of a journey to go.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But she's happy. Yeah, well, I mean it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Was a big statement for her to be able to
make at the beginning of Charleston to say it from here,
I'm playing under the flag, and you could actually see
during the tournament when it went up that it was
quite emotional for her.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
There's a lot for her to have to digest.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And we know that she's a very well loved player
on tour and very likable, and I mean, I think
it's going to be great for our Aussie women to
have this opportunity to have somebody of that level in
the team once you can get into the decap team,
and also for our younger girls to be able to
be around because she's going to be here in Melbourne.
(04:36):
That's going to be a base now, so when she
does get back off tour, those leadings to the Australian summer,
it's going to be something they can all utilize and
use to their advantage.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that's a real plus.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
And I know a very own as well, Daria Saville.
She's been giving her advice somewhere to look to live
in Melbourne as well, right next door to where she is.
Good friends, aren't they square? So yeah, they've been very
very good friends, I'm assuming for their whole life. So yeah,
you know they've played doubles together in the past, they
(05:08):
hang out all the time. But yeah, like Daria Casakina
is definitely one of the most like players on too.
I think she's always been very friendly, always had really great,
great dealings with her myself when I'm still playing and
so forth. So look, I think, as Todd was saying,
she's a great person and asset and player. However you
(05:28):
want to put it to come here and now really
set a new benchmark for our players to strive to.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
How so we got two dashes? How do we how
are we going to get over this just horribly hard
hurdle of.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Name. Yeah, well, I mean who should be typically Aussie.
We have to come up with a nickname Pats that
we'll put that to our all of our listeners and
our views. Yeah, I like that, like Dar Savill's dog Tofu,
Dashi Agadashi tofu. A lot of mental gymnastics just happened.
(06:05):
That a good dashy tofu. Yeah, it's a lot happening there,
next up on the list of But no, it's great
for women's tennis, great Tis John, great for Aussie tennis. Yeah,
I mean there's something to don't I mean when Olympics
is big on our radar, I think in Australia but
also in tennis. But a lot of people know, what
does tennis need you know, Olympics need tennis vice versa.
(06:26):
Well it does, and our greatest champions have played. But
we also having won a medal with our men's doubles
team in Paris. We we're only getting towards three years
away from la and of course then Brisbane, so you
know we've got a contender for those next games. By
the time all of those definitely through and the processes
get through and the passport gets there, that'll be interesting
to watch.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
I'm still stuck on the fact that there's people out
there who don't believe tennis belongs in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh many, particularly people that don't play tennis because they
don't like us being there, because.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
We with Serena Williams play at our two thousand Olympics
in Sydney in Australia one of my fondest memories. And yes,
I come from a tennis family. He loved to play tennis.
But like tennis is such a good sport.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I feel really irritated when people say that it's.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Athlete versus athlete. If anything, get rid of dressage. The
horse is doing all the work. Controversial very much. So
never thought that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Watching Dressarge though my dog watch Dresser.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Your dog kind of looks like a dressage horse. She
does spanding with long black hair. Anyway, Welcome to Australia,
Dasha Todd. Take us back to Miami. Yeah, well, Miami
an excellent tournament, always is. It's kind of a tournament
for me that sets up the middle part of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We start to see who's inform.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You go back a few years when Ash Buddy all
of a sudden won Miami and that was sort of
like this great, big, soaring moment in her career, and
for me Yacomensik, it's the same type of scenario. He
comes through the tournament as a nineteen year old, handles
it all with this serious sup plumb and there might
be a reason for that, and I'll get to that
(08:03):
in a moment where he was kind of relaxed through it.
But what we saw was a game that is advancing quickly,
great fourhand, super mover, backhand that is solid as a rock,
and no fear. And it's quite interesting that you can
go into a Miami final against Novak Djokovic and have
no fear.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, you'd have to really swallow that fear to face
down Novak.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I thought watching the opening walk on and games
of that final, a five hour rain delay, so much
time to burn nervous energy sitting around the locker room.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
When are we going to get on? How is it
going to go?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
He was fine, He came out of the block so
so well, and so I was mightily impressed. And I
think we can add another player to the next that
is potentially there to win a major. So all of
a sudden, we now have al Karaz Sinner. You've got Fonseca.
(09:00):
Now you throw in men sick into this, and boy,
men's tennis has become incredibly dynamic and interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's great. He almost didn't play, is that correct? Like
he was.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, so it's a great little story about that. I
don't want to hear about it from me. Yeah, he
listened from the man himself.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Big special thanks to one of the ADB physios, Alexandro,
because I have to tell you one story. One hour
before my first match in here, I was holding the
paper of pulling out from the tournament because my name
was hurting a lot. I was just lucky and referee
(09:39):
was having lunch. So then for the last time I
came for the treatment. He did a miracle and because
of him I step on the court and because of
him I'm standing here. So thank you, A big special
thanks for him, and thank you guys for everything.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Wow, what a twist. Yeah, how incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I mean, Sam, I'm going to go to you on
this because you know that as a player, you never
really play feeling fully fit. There's always a niggle, there's
always something that you're managing, and sometimes when you have
something like that, it takes the pressure off the expectation
and you just go out and play freely. And that's
kind of how it looked for him.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more. That is
so even when there's a mid match court call, you
see matches a lot of them ever so slightly turned,
because then there is no expectation, there's no thought about
really what they're doing as far as tennis goes. It
might be about protecting them selves physically, and they just
play better. Gets in the mind of the opponent as well.
So I think also given he was playing Jack Draper,
(10:42):
who came off the Indian Wells win and probably go, oh, well,
you know, not a big deal if I lose, who
cares type thing? Goes out and wins that everyone thinks
Jack Draper has had a terrible tournament, but he loses
it to the eventual champion too. So yeah, look, very
very few moments I could say I walked on court
feeling absolutely nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I think it goes down to some players looking
for a times an easy way out of like not.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Putting themselves on the line.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We see that a lot, I mean something to point,
Jimmy Connors has the best line ever. He says, if
you walk on the court, you finish the match. And
so many players walk on the score line, you know
they're down for one. In the second loss of the
first name that they shake hands, that's that's not going
to make you a great player, that's just going to
make you a run of the meal player. And so
(11:33):
it's a fascinating insight into psychology of what expectations and
how players deal with pressure, and also understanding that you
may have a niggle, but it's not an injury, it's
just soreness. It's not something that's going to hold you back,
and sometimes you can play through that. And this was
a case of him learning how much you can actually
play through with the right treatment and the right mentality.
(11:55):
So a huge lesson for a nineteen year old that
I'm sure it.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Was a change.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's going to change the way he looks at himself
to be able to make something of himself on the tour.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So sliding doors moment for the exact is.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Mensic one that you've both been watching and thinking you're interesting,
You're going to be something.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's been pretty quick, I think if you look at
men's tennis in the last twelve months, Fonseca talking about
him before he sort of went boom, but he was there.
Men six jumped in rather quickly, rather quickly. But it
just I think it just shows that the generations that
sit underneath have been watching the greatest you know, they've
(12:37):
been watching some of the greatest tennis that you could
possibly play, and they've actually risen very quickly to those levels.
They've been dragged along by the levels, and I'm surprised
they're playing at the level so quickly in their careers
because the physicality of the game has moved on to
huge degrees and so to see them play it, I
(12:59):
think is astonishing because I was expecting that we would
be having this level of play when they are twenty five,
twenty six, twenty seven. Yeah, not when we've got nineteen,
twenty twenty one, twenty two year olds doing it. And
that's what we've seen. So all in all though, she's
great viewing well from a new name to an established name.
(13:19):
Sam what's called your eye this week?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Yeah, Arena Sabolenka back holding the winner's trophy again. So
obviously she won in Brisbane first week of the year
and then kind of obviously Final AO Final Indian wells
a bit of a lean patch through Dubai in the
Middle East, but yeah, it comes out and wins four matches,
four of those matches against top twenty plays again absolutely
(13:42):
dominated the draw with every match being straight sets, and says, hey,
I'm still number one.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, well, she is just an absolute rockstar on grass
and hard court. When are we going to see her
begin to dominate if she can on the clay.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Well, I mean I don't see any reason why she
can't do well, or win titles, or potentially win the
French Obviously, she's.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Had the French in the Parma the hand I got
to say.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
It wasn't due to her not being able to play
on clay that she lost that match. So I think
a lot of it on the clay court comes down
to her own self belief in that moment potentially. But
since that particular match at the French Open, she's now
gone on to win more Grand Slams, she's been dominant
world number one, so all of these things are going
to help her go through and potentially do that. Obviously,
(14:27):
we have Eager, who is the clay court favorite no
matter what, probably to get through, but she be sorry, no,
she's going to believe that she can win a clay
court title, big one and whether that's you know, a
Madrid or Rome or French or wherever, she is absolutely
capable of doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think Arena Saberlanka is one of the best bounce
back resilient champions that our game has had, because there
have been players that have been in situations like her
in major tournaments that have had meltdowns that have never
come back well, they've never gone to the levels again
that they were at at that point. Arena, on every
(15:06):
occasion where she's had something go against her, whether it
be a bit self inflicted, has come back better from it.
We've seen it from Paris, so no surprise to me
that she could go on and win at Rolling Gaross
this year. She's had what happened at this year's austraight
In Open, where you know she is expected to win
and you can see the devastation at the end of
(15:27):
the match.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But even then she was devastated, smashed the racket, but
then flick the switch, she was thrilled for her colleague.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Amazing.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, So she goes back in like thirty seconds over
a tournament and let's go back a couple of years
here in Osbord and she couldn't get a serve in
the court. Yep, remember man, Like that was the end
of a corner cover. Her career never could come back
when she got the yips like that. So Arena Sablenka
is for me one of the resilient champions. That is,
(15:55):
she's not done yet and there's many more tournament wins
to come, So more dance videos for you and your team.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
To go great. I love doing the sable anka TikTok dances.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well break over to you. What's caught your eye for
the week?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Well you know, well, Danny L.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Collins made it to round four going down to actually Sabolenca,
and on her way home from hard Rock I went
to say hard rock Cafe, but hard Rock Arena, she
came across an injured dog that had been hit by
a car.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
She rescued the dog.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
She took the dog to the hospital or the veterinary hospital.
It received emergency surgery and five days of oxygen. And
she has now adopted the dog and called it Crash.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Crash.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Crash is a labradoodle And I just think that's such
a beautiful story and I love I love it animals.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Danny Colins, she's cool, she's sassy. I love five Days
of Oxygen all.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
But yeah, I just thought that was a really beautiful story.
And you know, I think Crash is now watching on
it Charleston.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Great, we'll get Crashed on a plane in January. We
can meet the pub to see him.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Quarantine.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, we don't want a Johnny Depp situation to happen
again now.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Global listeners, Australia has a very strict animal quarantine quarantine. Well,
we've got to protect our biodiversity here.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
We do in agriculture.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, all right, well that was what's caught our eye
for the week. Coming up next, we're going to jump
over to Charleston in a way with Nick mccarvill.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Stay tuned for the tennis.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Welcome back, while we are joined from Charleston kicking off
the clay season with Nick mccarvill.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Hello, Nick, how's the air power?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You look all the better for hearing your voice in
my ears. How's the weather over there?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Oh man, it is muggy.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I think Sam will be familiar with the noseums. They
are the tiny mosquitoes that love anyone who's not from Charleston.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
They will eat you alive. So zev. There's been a
lot of bug spray.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
But other than that, it has been a beautiful few
days here.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
To say you love Charleston, I absolutely do.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
It was always one of my favorite tournaments on the
on the calendar, but not only for the tournament, but
also for where I could go and eat my dinners
every night. So have you been to Fig yet because
that is my all time favorite rest?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, Sam, they're actually asking you, asking about you the
other night.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
No, it just you're so right.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It really is this place where all the players love
coming here.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
It's like a mid sized southern city in the US.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
It's got a lot of that hospitality and charm halls,
chop house, Fig, all of these restaurants. I think I'm
around The tournament director makes sort of blanket reservations for
all the players downtown. Sam, you would know better than
me about that. But yeah, the culinary experience is second
to none.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Let's go from culinary to court. Nick, Yeah, looking bit moldy,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
A zave doesn't understand that there is green clay.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
In the United States.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
In fact, I think it was my least favorite surface
of all was a struggle for me. But green clay
everyone said, oh it should suit you. It's quicker, bounces,
higher and all of that. But it's a lot different
to red. Why hasn't Charleston had a look at actually
transforming into a red clay surface.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They could do that, couldn't they.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean maybe they have. Todd actually, and you
and Sam would know this pretty well. I think the
players really actually like the transition between it the Indian
wells and Miami hardcourt conditions, and then you kind of
get this next step towards the clay season. So, like
you say, it's not quite the slippery red European clay.
It's got a little bit more bounce to it, and
(19:38):
you can slide on it somewhat. But I think it
provides a lot of the players, especially the Americans.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
We've got nineteen of them in the.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Draw this week, that little bit of intermediary from the
hard courts to the true European clay.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I like, I'm very well done. I think you've nailed
that response. I thought your problem, SOLB was more laundry related.
It was harder to get out of your watch, your
and things like that. Oh No, no, no, no. Red
sox are harder to clean than the green ones, by
the way, cooled.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Not I thought it would be because it's darker. It
was a silly question.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I really think Todd's ever done more during his love.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I actually used to sew pleat shorts to make sure
they fit.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I sold all badges onto my sleeves.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But not for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well, I haven't played for a while.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But what events were on Todd? What events were on
green clay that you would have played in? Because now
Charleston is the only, at least the tour level, the
only on green clay.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So where did you play on green clay?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Obviously it was around a similar time of the season
where the US clay court used to be played in
various places. We played in Pinehurst, North Carolina on the
green clay. We played down in Orlando on green clay
at Disney World, and so there were variations of what
we did with that. And I actually want to clay
(20:54):
court to believe it or not. Somehow it was a
very poor drawer.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
When Greg Ruizetskin and I had made the final for
clay court time, you know things are troublesome, but we
were in Coral Spring, which was on Red Clay. And
that's why I asked that question, because there are obviously places.
Houston is currently underway on the men's Tour this week,
and that obviously is Red Clay too. That's one of
the rare clubs in the States that has it. But yes,
we did have to do that, but I always found
that transition.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Sort of difficult.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I played better on Red than I did on Green,
which is weird, and I didn't play very well on
either of.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You gave it a go. So Nick, who's making headlines
early on over there in Charlton.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, it's been a big welcome home for Madison Keys.
I mean, no surprise, you guys, the Australian Open champion.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
She's sort of having. It's been cool to watch she's
been having this victory tour in the.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
States of Indian Wells, Miami and now Charleston. She and
Jessica Pagoula are the top seeds. It feels like they're
the two favorites coming in. But then you've got players
like Austa Panko, You've got Amma Navarro, who is sort
of the hometown hope a lot of people for years.
It was Shelby Rogers. She was trying to punch up
into that top level. But now I am Navarro as
an established Grand Slam semifinals.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Someone who's been in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I have to tell you, guys, there's a lot of
Southern ladies following the Tennis and Charleston as I think again,
as Samuell knows, and there they all want to get
a look at Emma Navarro. I'm not going to try
my best Southern accent, but they all want to see
their homegirls give them and I will say, no, I'm not.
I'm not even leaving that thanks, but I I will say.
(22:28):
Dasha Kazakina was on the court for the first time
today with an Australian flag next to her name, and
it was actually pretty emotional.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
She said a couple of times she.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Just couldn't, you know, couldn't stop looking at that Australian
flag next to her name, which I think is really cool.
And Dasha is actually a really home favorite here. She
won this tournament in twenty seventeen. People really got to
know the Dasha that we know in tennis, and it
was a cool moment to see her experience that moment
with the Australian flag in front of a Charleston crowd
that knows her so well.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Well, we do have quite a few Aulsis over there anyway,
don't we. We've got Isla over there as well as
Olivia Gadeki, Tom Lenovichho, do we have.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Much Ossie kind of fans over there? Pushing?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh, great question the tame along.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I haven't seen any Australian fans just yet.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I'm sure there's rounds.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Last year they had forty nine state fans from forty
Nited states. Out of the fifty they had fans from
seven different countries, so I'm guessing Australia would be represented.
We actually had Ala on my court yesterday the Afia
Gibson Club court and Cruise, her dog was here and
you guys, he was watching watching the match court side,
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watching Mom play.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So probably watching the bowl.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
There's one love that, yes, well, watching Mom too, Brie.
There's at least one Australian fan, Cruise Isla's duck.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, well, hang on, how are the dogs there?
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Because I also in my what caught my eye, I
spoke about Danielle Collins's new dog, Crash and I saw
he was in the stadium as well. How the dogs
in Charleston and how do we get them at our
events in Australia.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, so we wanted, honestly a great creditation, no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Okay, great, could you look into that.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Allan Sky has got her dog here too, Yeah, yeah, totally.
I'll get back. You'll be your I'll be your rapotter, rapotter.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Okay, was about to say, we're really looking forward to
having you back in Melbourne for a twenty six but
after this we'll have a chat offline.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Oh was that on me?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Or no, we'll just blame brain.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, Nick, anything that as you head back out there
to court announced for Charleston, Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I just I mean it's the best.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I love this gig, Sam knows Althia Gibson Club Court
while I'm sitting in the sort of like clubhouse that
just overlooks the court and it really is sort of
that I think of tournaments like Brisbane, you know, that
event and people come out and support it so well,
it's got a f only feel. The food, like Sam says,
is just amazing and this is a great atmosphere. You know,
this has been the WTA five hundred Tournament of the
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Year the last three years, and the Southern hospitality is high,
and it's just a great event, I think, especially for
the Americans, like U Australians know it really well. The
Americans they have to leave now for months before they
get to come back for the US Swinging. So I
think it's a nice sunder for those American Americans team too.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I feel for them having to leave for you know, eight.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Weeks, if that, if that six hour fly goodness, Todd's
been home for about five minutes in the last twenty
four months. Hey, before we do, let you go the ALTHEA.
Gibson court that you're talking about. How fabulous is it.
We don't talk about Authea Gibson very often in the
world of tennis. The first African American champion that dominated
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at Wimbledon and the US Open, was also a professional golfer.
She had so many things covered and in the sport
of tennis. I didn't know we had a court named
after her there in Child And good on them for
actually showcasing one of the greats of our game.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And I'm sure you'd agree with that, Nick oh hugely.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
So I mean ALTHEA Gibson was the original black pioneer
in women's centers, and every year they bring back her legacy.
They talk about charities that do work in sort of
her name and her spirit, and don't you worry, Todd,
I'm saying ALTHEA Gibson Club Court as many times as
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's fantastic. Well, Nick, thank you so much for joining
us over there.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Stay warm, stay cool, whatever you need to do, get
some barbers and.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Have fun out there.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Cheers for it. I appreciate it. Thanks you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Stay away from them. There's no cms, Nick, exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
All right, we are back for more of the tennis now,
Sammy about to pop up to Brisbane.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
What are you doing up there?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
BJK god tie.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
We played Keazakhstan and Columbia, so it's gonna be a
tough week ahead, but really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Expectations. I mean, if Kazakhstan send their full lineup, that's
going to be tough.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Well, I mean everything points that they will have Rebakna
and Putinsuva at least probably playing the singles matches. So yeah,
they're obviously the probably the team to beat. Given rankings
on paper and everything. So yeah, not going to be easy,
but we do have the home crowd, support, home crowd,
home court. We love playing in Brisbane. We played there
many many times. It's a home court for Kim Berrell
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and now my join as well. So you know we've
got some things in our favor and we believe we
can do it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean, Ozzie's love tennis, but Queenslanders bloody we love.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I do.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Interesting one.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
The last time the Ozzie BJK Cup team played Columbia
was when you Sam made your debut as a player.
What do you remember about making your debut and playing
against I just read that who had great fact. Yeah
it was in Wolong team in Wollongong and I was
probably a little bit surprised to get the gig to
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actually play and I lost six four in the third
to Fabia Fabiolo Zuluwaga, but put in a really good
performance and yeah did what I could. I last, but
it was an unbelievable experience.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You loved it.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It was like two thousand and three.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I feel like that's what the guy said this morning.
What did it feel like for you donning the Green
and gold for BJK Cup for the first time. It
would have been fed cut fak and what did it
feel like? It felt oversized because it was a very.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Jacket.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh god, but.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, very very special.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
And you know, if I remember correctly, I think the
team was Alisha, Pratty and Stubsy. So for of a sudden,
I'm then put into this team of you know, Australia's
best plays and people that I looked up to playing
and just thought practicing with them occasionally was you know,
oh my gosh, I'm practicing with Alisha here and.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know that sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Actually on the team and actually got to play the
match at one of the matches. So yeah, it was
incredibly special. And like I said, I still remember it.
I know who I played, the score, you know, and
you know it was a long time ago. But yeah,
I think every time you get to put on the
Green and Gold, you really cherish it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Who hinghed me moment.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
But now you're the captain about to play the same country.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
On the tennis ye whatever, whatever, ye.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
As a player against Columbia now.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Full sir coach, you got to close it out though
we want to win.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Well exactly, I've got to turn the tables now on
my own personal result, no pressure. So who did you
lose to Fabiola Zuluwaga when she's like top twenty. I
actually saw her at the Olympics. She was there with
the Colombians with the ticket part of the coaching staff.
I actually don't know if she's part of the BJK
coaching staff. But that was the last time well, yeah,
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last time I saw it, which wasn't that long ago,
but considering it's probably twenty years in between.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But still hanging onto that little hatchet.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Okay, I've got more of a serious question, but sorry,
Todd has a serious question. But jumping into the captaincy
is a lot of a lot of stress and precious
because you've got to manage more than just one player.
You've got the coaching, you've got, the setup, you've got. Yeah,
so how you're handling that?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, well it's yeah, it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Even last night wasn't sleeping so well. I was thinking
practice and these hours and then that, and how you
divvy up the court times and all these things.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So there's and selections.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Well, and obviously that is the main one that you
do sometimes loose sleepover of who to put on the
court for what day, and against you know, matchups against
opponents potentially, but then rankings coming to play with who's
allowed to play who and all these sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And how are you with them delivering the hard discussion.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Look, it's not easy. It is tough, but I hope
just get putting it, you're off and where you go.
I do think the good thing is all our players
do genuinely support each other, so before for that, they
know it's not it's not a personal decision. There might
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whatever comes in to play, and every single time, at
least in my experience, they've been on the sidelines cheering
for their teammates.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So it's not easy. I know.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I know what it's like to be playing and also
not playing. It sucks when you're not playing, but that's
part of being in a team.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
When pretty walks in with the ball basket going, we've
got more work I've got you know, you didn't get pitched.
It's you've got to have a scapegoat. You've got an
orange girl. You've got a scape girl, you've got a captain,
You've got all these roles that are very important to
the JK Cup.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right, it's pretty exciting, but you go any guess.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, I've got one question. Tyler's won a couple of
matches in Charleston.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Is that me?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
T'm alad of itch? Is that making selection harder? Do
you think?
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Well, it's always hard no matter what. But now she's
obviously one two matches there, which is great. She's going
to be feeling more confident. Yes, now she's going to
be coming into Brisbane later than the rest of the team.
But I think if you're coming in having won matches
and feeling good about your tennis and yourself, that's a
really good problem to have. So you know, hopefully she
can keep going and she shows up really late for
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her own result, but we'll cross that bridge.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
When we get to it.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
When she does arrive. And like I said, we just
got to see who's doing what during the week, how
everyone feels matchups and you know, you call it and
you're back at starting fingers cross.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It is an exciting time for Australia Tennis. Global Tennis
will stay tuned. There's probably still a couple of tickets left.
I don't know, maybe give it a Google.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, definitely, we want to see you there, come support us.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
You in particular you. I'm staring at the camera for
those who are not watching on YouTube and if you
can't get to Brisbane, you can watch it.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
You can watch Todd.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You can watch it, watch Todd, Tod, you watch it. Yeah,
you can watch it on nine to them.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah all right, well BJK to the top five.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bri, I see you've got another top five. Now, I've
got some buttons here. Start with the purple and I
believe so get so I.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Get excited when there's buttons and cake.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Have you had your meds today?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Too many or not enough?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
We'll find out what your analysis after analysis.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
So we've hit clay court season. So I thought we'd
do some top five facts about clay courts. Last year,
I didn't do clay courts. I did Wimbledon. I did
grass courts five. So I just thought these are taken
from Rolling Garras. So I'm sure every court is quite different,
but I thought i'd go with the main court.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Everyone knows well, they know clay too, so.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, good, I would assume everyone's different.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Let's do it five.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Cool.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So this is about the physicality of the court. So
they say that it might be more physically demanding, but
clay apparently is the least hardhush of surfaces because it
protects the joints and limits the risk of injury, making
it an ideal surface for any player. Now, I wanted
to actually hear what you guys think of that. Injury
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taught me, well, I think on the joints, for sure,
it's a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Yeah, and it's just softer and you can slide. You're
not like getting that quick stock back the jar. Having
said that, if you slip, you can. I pulled a
bit of a hip flexa thing by slipping one year.
But I just love clay, so I would play on
it any day of the week.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Good, all right, well you got hang on.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Top.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
No move on, I'll let the true court I give that.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
At Roland Garros it has eight people I needed to
prepare the court and one hundred people are responsible for
maintaining the court.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And that's what makes it an expensive surface? Yeah, okay, So,
and that's why you know it's tougher to have clay
clubs like in Australia because of the costed you know,
in the in Europe it's a different scenario with the
clubs there. They're very social and community based in small
villages and there's people that can can jump in and yeah,
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so I didn't know it was that many though.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, so I guess if you have a clay court,
you'd have to keep on it. You can't just let
it go for it, right, a.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Bit of a weaving, you've got to get back out,
put the top dressing back on again. Runs, get some
more red dust.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah whatever, brush a few more bricks. There we go.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
So, in terms of maintenance for Roland Garris, in the morning,
the courts are uncovered and swept during the matches. Between
every set, courts are swept. Lines are brushed after the matches, sweep, brush,
water evening, intense watering every day, repeat if it rains.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Repeat.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Sounds like my morning routine. But crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's a lot, isn't it? And they throw the.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Other Yeah, layers, I went to put it in bro
I thought that would take too long to explain the
different volume layers say it because if you practice early
then you can still see it all over.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
The court's gone down into the actual the actual fine
and understand the salt, so wat the salt is in
the mornings, right, So if you go back years ago,
they didn't have covers on the courts overnight, so if
you had overnight showers, you come in and it would
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be quite muddy and it could be very very heavy,
and so rolling garrils played very differently to how it
does today.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Totally. We're the dependent.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Now you come in, you they water the courts, put
the covers on, come back the next morning and they
take them off, and they know how close they're going
to be. But the back of the courts, where there
are uncovered there might be rain. They throw in big
chunks of hard salt really soak up the water to
dry it quicker. And that's what you don't want to
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put it on your salad, is the proper rocks sunk
corselick type thing down the back.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's yeah, we are.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
What are we up to to?
Speaker 6 (37:16):
So one point one in tons tons t O n
s so tons?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Wow, a red.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Clay used to build a court.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
And this figure increases to one point five and I'm
not gonna be able to say it Philip.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Court, which is obviously bigger.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
The center court.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Was that because of extra use or bigger? Massive?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, I think you.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
They say one point one ton for the whole rolling girls.
That's a lot of clay. Wow, used to build a court.
That's a basic court one point five. I wonder we
use plus cushion or whatever you have here? Hard court.
Just vacuum it off, get the dicon.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It was just painted blue something or other.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Remember what, Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Cement.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, slap down was like, no, no, even I know
that there's like a lot going on there. That's the
wrong button now, ok.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Number one.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
So this is a fact everyone will probably know. But
our very own birthday panelists won it. Rolling Garras which
one both of you right doubles count?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Okay, good.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
I was just making short like your face. I was like,
hang on, is Wikipedia wrong?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Who do you think wrote the Wikipedia page for top Wollobridge.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Todd in doubles in the year two thousand, hit CHK
and Sam in doubles in two thousand and six, and
the singles final in twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah that wasn't me, now that's so yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. Double Still can you.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Tried to say earlier you were really bad at.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Clay, which always.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
No, Yeah, we was. I actually liked playing on clay.
The problem was like the clay court season sort of
about ten eleven weeks long in a way, and on
week eleven, I finally used to get it and I
was there and I was playing and I had all
the shape was in the right space, and then then.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Boom, grass grass.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And that was the hardest part, like the first five weeks,
four weeks, was actually adapting a fast, caught, flat hitting
game to Clay.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Yeah, and you're just like, that's how I felt on grass.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'd get to like.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
A few weeks and you'd get to the end of
Wimwood and where it turns to dirt because there's no
grass slept.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
But now I like this now familiar.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But you know what, that's the one thing where I
think the game has changed enormously now is that we're
talking right now this week about transitioning from the hardcore
season onto Clay. And when that used to happen, you
used to have players fall off in terms of form.
If you're a hardcore player, you had to play well
because you knew you were not going to make any
point of on that next season, that next sort of
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set because until you got to the grass and then
you had to go hard game. Now we watch players
like mensik it wins in Miami. He slides across the baseline.
He's just going to transition from sliding on the hardcourt onto.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
The clay on his knees.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
The young kids today play a game style that adapts
to all surfaces. And they're so big, so strong, so athletic.
They hit winners off both wings. They've got plenty of
spin and shape on the ball, they can flatten the ball.
They all serve huge, So transitioning from surface to surface
is not as big an issue as it used to be.
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And I think that's something we can even look at
to change what we see in tennis in sort of
having groundhog Day events. That's where court speed and balls
and all those things become a little different, where you
can have different challenges in I mean in terms of
players challenging to go forward and win events, because it's
much easier now and we don't see so many players really.
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You know, Pete Sampras, who was the ultimate Grand Slam champion,
was all at sea when he was on clay, Roland Garross,
he never won it. And you don't see one of
our up and comers and think of them like that anymore.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
One question for you, Sam as a finalist at Roland Garris.
Is that your favorite slam?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
It was to play?
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Yeah, as far as tennis goes on the court, if
the clay was your surface, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, you did it.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
I mean it sounds silly saying that having won in
New York, but I think I won more grand same
matches at Rolling Garris anywhere else. And Mike like, I
think I had Semmes three times a final.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It gave you the belief really.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
That, Yeah, exactly. So I had that final.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
I had Semis in two thousand and nine, final in
twenty ten. Then I won in twenty eleven at the
US Open. But I'd had that on the clay, and
I just yeah, I just love playing on those courts.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, Well, speaking of things, we love Ace of the
Week something that doesn't have to be translated, prefer if
it's not. It's giving you a little bit of joy
this week. You've got a big green if I'm going
to go back to Arena Savallenca.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Because when my mum was still alive and we'd go
down to the bowling club and you know, mum would
have a little beer or two and a little shandy
and someone would come in and she goes, don't you
know who is?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
He's one of the Woodies, and.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I'm like, oh, Mark Hell and Arena Sanvlenca had this
issue this week where she's gone out to dinner after
winning Miami and this absolute what would we call him,
unfortunate human comes along and says, this is my table.
I want that table, And one of Arena's team goes,
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don't you know who she is?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
She's number one woman in the world. And I had
to laugh at that because it made me think of
my mum.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But it was also such a classic moment here they
are celebrating their dinner, they still got all their food
on the table, and this guy's coming in and saying
this is my table, and the righteousness of him was
and she came out of it looking fantastic. And I
think he'll be highly embarrass for a long time because
he's gone absolutely viral and he deserves to be slapped
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down for.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
What he did and how he made. Well done.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Arena, I'll definitely be looking up that one afterwards. Good
we'll add it to the show notes of the episode,
and can you make sure that happens? Great good Man, Sam,
what's your ace of the week.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Well, it was my birthday on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Yes it was, Yeah, I what happened Saturday night? Went
out to the Comedy Festival in Melbourne. Best of the
Brits and another guy in a little tiny bar felt
I did feel a bit bad. There's only like twenty
seats in there and there was only about twelve taken.
One of them was Sam Stoza, so I did feel
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like he was making eye contact only with me, but
I think it was only because there.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Was no one else to look at it. That was
where someone said do you know who she is?
Speaker 6 (43:50):
But it was very, very fun. I love going to
the comedy That was great. And then went tenpin bowling
the next day some new funky place so and out
for Mexicans.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
So I had a bit of a birthday weekend.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
It was a good outing. We'll happy birthday once again. Yeah,
thank you. What's your rest of the week?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
One's a double up.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
I went to comedy festival on Monday night. I went
to a preview that showed about twelve different I got
invited because they were mostly TikTok comedians and they each
did about three minutes each, which is more than what
we would normally do on TikTok, which is really good,
good for them. But they're all in the comedy fests.
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They're funny, they were amazing. They were very funny because
comedy is kind of changing, like lots of things, right,
A lot of comedians are coming up through social media.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
And yeah, it was also say comedy was changing. It's
no longer funny.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
How they're being noticed and found, which I think is
good for comedians, right, because it's such a hard slot,
it's so hard to make it through, and it was
so funny. And midway through I was busting to go
to the toilet and I was like, I am not moving.
There is no chance in hell I am. Because comedians
love it when someone gets up to go there got smashed,
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holding on hold. As soon as it ended, I've never
got out of a theater faster to go the toilet.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Did you make it? I just made That's awesome, Very
happy for you, Thank you. Okay, mine of the week. Now,
some of you might know I live in a part
of Victoria here in Australia. Mount Macedon.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
It is, you know, world renowned for its trees and
we've just entered autumn. Yes, so all of the trees
are changing. It looks like New England in Northeast America. Yeah, Vermont, Yeah, exactly.
It looks stunning. Of course with that comes a lot
of tourists and leaf peepers, people who come to take photos,
but traffic hazards aside. It's just a beautiful time of year.
And that's why both of you if you come in
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your jackets today was colder. Now in Melbourne, I have
to come down from my red leaves and talk to
you lovely people about tennis.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Beautiful. Yeah, I like you. For you.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm all the way from South Yarra.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Across the river here to Melbourne Park.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I'm glad you made it my twenty four minute walk.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
He did it well, thank you New PB Yeah it
is actually that's pretty good. Well, thank you all once
again for joining us on the tennis great thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Looking forward to the Red Clay the Chess of tennis.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
So good.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Sure, okay join us again.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Next week the a TOV Tour heads to Monte Carlo
and our Aussie women will be back on home soil
fighting for a place in the Village in King Cup
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Speaker 3 (46:43):
Thank you.
Hello and welcome to the tennis once again.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Today on the show, Jak of mensig ouse his childhood
hero Novak Djokovic world number twelve. Daria Kasakina records her
first win representing Australia and Clacys and kicks off. Nick
mccarvill joins us direct from Charleston. All that more, I'm
zav muleback, your host for the week, joined once again
by Brace Stewart loves a bit of the social media.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Hey don't break, I'm good, thank you, Good to be
here always.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
And across the desk couple of birthday people. Winner of
the Year Normal Xavi is Nicest Person in Tennis Award
Sam Stoza, thank you and runner up to.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
But I do believe we have birthday celebrations. Where's thank you?
I kicked off there forgot my own cake.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Here we are it was his own direction.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm so excited. I was on a sugar rush and
I hadn't even eaten it yet.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Can we.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Is copyright still a thing? Let's not biscuits? Yeah, so
really excited. It's gonna hurt.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Oh well, I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I was not expecting that. I did see the hat, but.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Nothing really must be a prop. So how are you?
Birthday weeks?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It was actually great. Yeah, it was going to be
my ace of the week.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I just can't believe how old I'm getting. Neither can wait.
I just look at it and go, what is still
up and about?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Oh? Yeah trying.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't think you're old.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
No, no, he's married. No, it's yeah, it just Jesus
flies around quick.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
What number did you hit?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Fifty four? Really? Okay? No, you are look pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yeah, yeah, thanks, But anyway, it's it's nice to have
one with my well, you know, birthday so close with my.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yes, former mixed doubles partner here.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Surely this is an annual celebration get together the two
of you. Yeah, we'll make it that from now. Okay, good,
now that we get cake and hat. Now, if you
could give each other one birthday wish?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
What would it be? Sam? You go first? What would
you wish for Todd?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
More holidays?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, that's fairly appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That would be nice. What would I wish for Sam?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
BJK?
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
BJK Cup victory in a couple of weeks? What would
I wish for you? Sam?
Speaker 6 (02:31):
I'd be happy with more holidays too, that'd be fine.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
All right, Well, thank you very much for joining us
for another week of the tennis. A lot to discuss.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I'm going to take my hat off because it's cutting into.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
My third chin. I'm going to drop it here. Here
you go, next to the cake. All right, Well, let's
jump straight in. What's caught your eye now? Big one
for me?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Australian Open, Australian Tennis. We're in Australia. This is the
Ale Original Tennis podcast. God new was he in a way?
I noticed that? Charleston. There's a new Australia flag at
the wt A event. Daria Kazakina now permanent resident of Australia.
How did this happen? What have we got?
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Do we have a new Aussie or is that still
in the mix?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Sam, You've got a pretty good understanding of how it's
all coming together.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Well, so she is a permanent resident now in Australia,
and I have to say very happy for her that
she can call Australia home now and feel like this
is going to be her new home and new country
to represent. So I'm really please for her, super happy
that she's been able to come to that decision, but yeah,
she is only a permanent resident at the moment, so
(03:36):
WTA have approved her to play under the Aussie flag,
which is really great, but there's obviously still a few
things that need to time pass and things to be
done for her to be a citizen, get a passport
and you know, eventually be able to play on the
BJK Cup team because.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
There's very different rules and requirements at WTA events if so,
you know, there's still a bit of a journey to go.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But she's happy. Yeah, well, I mean it.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Was a big statement for her to be able to
make at the beginning of Charleston to say it from here,
I'm playing under the flag, and you could actually see
during the tournament when it went up that it was
quite emotional for her.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
There's a lot for her to have to digest.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
And we know that she's a very well loved player
on tour and very likable, and I mean, I think
it's going to be great for our Aussie women to
have this opportunity to have somebody of that level in
the team once you can get into the decap team,
and also for our younger girls to be able to
be around because she's going to be here in Melbourne.
(04:36):
That's going to be a base now, so when she
does get back off tour, those leadings to the Australian summer,
it's going to be something they can all utilize and
use to their advantage.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
So that's a real plus.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
And I know a very own as well, Daria Saville.
She's been giving her advice somewhere to look to live
in Melbourne as well, right next door to where she is.
Good friends, aren't they square? So yeah, they've been very
very good friends, I'm assuming for their whole life. So yeah,
you know they've played doubles together in the past, they
(05:08):
hang out all the time. But yeah, like Daria Casakina
is definitely one of the most like players on too.
I think she's always been very friendly, always had really great,
great dealings with her myself when I'm still playing and
so forth. So look, I think, as Todd was saying,
she's a great person and asset and player. However you
(05:28):
want to put it to come here and now really
set a new benchmark for our players to strive to.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
How so we got two dashes? How do we how
are we going to get over this just horribly hard
hurdle of.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Name. Yeah, well, I mean who should be typically Aussie.
We have to come up with a nickname Pats that
we'll put that to our all of our listeners and
our views. Yeah, I like that, like Dar Savill's dog Tofu,
Dashi Agadashi tofu. A lot of mental gymnastics just happened.
(06:05):
That a good dashy tofu. Yeah, it's a lot happening there,
next up on the list of But no, it's great
for women's tennis, great Tis John, great for Aussie tennis. Yeah,
I mean there's something to don't I mean when Olympics
is big on our radar, I think in Australia but
also in tennis. But a lot of people know, what
does tennis need you know, Olympics need tennis vice versa.
(06:26):
Well it does, and our greatest champions have played. But
we also having won a medal with our men's doubles
team in Paris. We we're only getting towards three years
away from la and of course then Brisbane, so you
know we've got a contender for those next games. By
the time all of those definitely through and the processes
get through and the passport gets there, that'll be interesting
to watch.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
I'm still stuck on the fact that there's people out
there who don't believe tennis belongs in the Olympics.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh many, particularly people that don't play tennis because they
don't like us being there, because.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
We with Serena Williams play at our two thousand Olympics
in Sydney in Australia one of my fondest memories. And yes,
I come from a tennis family. He loved to play tennis.
But like tennis is such a good sport.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I feel really irritated when people say that it's.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Athlete versus athlete. If anything, get rid of dressage. The
horse is doing all the work. Controversial very much. So
never thought that.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Watching Dressarge though my dog watch Dresser.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Your dog kind of looks like a dressage horse. She
does spanding with long black hair. Anyway, Welcome to Australia,
Dasha Todd. Take us back to Miami. Yeah, well, Miami
an excellent tournament, always is. It's kind of a tournament
for me that sets up the middle part of the year.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
We start to see who's inform.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
You go back a few years when Ash Buddy all
of a sudden won Miami and that was sort of
like this great, big, soaring moment in her career, and
for me Yacomensik, it's the same type of scenario. He
comes through the tournament as a nineteen year old, handles
it all with this serious sup plumb and there might
be a reason for that, and I'll get to that
(08:03):
in a moment where he was kind of relaxed through it.
But what we saw was a game that is advancing quickly,
great fourhand, super mover, backhand that is solid as a rock,
and no fear. And it's quite interesting that you can
go into a Miami final against Novak Djokovic and have
no fear.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Well, you'd have to really swallow that fear to face
down Novak.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
And I thought watching the opening walk on and games
of that final, a five hour rain delay, so much
time to burn nervous energy sitting around the locker room.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
When are we going to get on? How is it
going to go?
Speaker 2 (08:38):
He was fine, He came out of the block so
so well, and so I was mightily impressed. And I
think we can add another player to the next that
is potentially there to win a major. So all of
a sudden, we now have al Karaz Sinner. You've got Fonseca.
(09:00):
Now you throw in men sick into this, and boy,
men's tennis has become incredibly dynamic and interesting.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
That's great. He almost didn't play, is that correct? Like
he was.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, so it's a great little story about that. I
don't want to hear about it from me. Yeah, he
listened from the man himself.
Speaker 7 (09:17):
Big special thanks to one of the ADB physios, Alexandro,
because I have to tell you one story. One hour
before my first match in here, I was holding the
paper of pulling out from the tournament because my name
was hurting a lot. I was just lucky and referee
(09:39):
was having lunch. So then for the last time I
came for the treatment. He did a miracle and because
of him I step on the court and because of
him I'm standing here. So thank you, A big special
thanks for him, and thank you guys for everything.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Wow, what a twist. Yeah, how incredible.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I mean, Sam, I'm going to go to you on
this because you know that as a player, you never
really play feeling fully fit. There's always a niggle, there's
always something that you're managing, and sometimes when you have
something like that, it takes the pressure off the expectation
and you just go out and play freely. And that's
kind of how it looked for him.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Oh absolutely, I couldn't agree with you more. That is
so even when there's a mid match court call, you
see matches a lot of them ever so slightly turned,
because then there is no expectation, there's no thought about
really what they're doing as far as tennis goes. It
might be about protecting them selves physically, and they just
play better. Gets in the mind of the opponent as well.
So I think also given he was playing Jack Draper,
(10:42):
who came off the Indian Wells win and probably go, oh, well,
you know, not a big deal if I lose, who
cares type thing? Goes out and wins that everyone thinks
Jack Draper has had a terrible tournament, but he loses
it to the eventual champion too. So yeah, look, very
very few moments I could say I walked on court
feeling absolutely nothing wrong with me.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
And I think it goes down to some players looking
for a times an easy way out of like not.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Putting themselves on the line.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
We see that a lot, I mean something to point,
Jimmy Connors has the best line ever. He says, if
you walk on the court, you finish the match. And
so many players walk on the score line, you know
they're down for one. In the second loss of the
first name that they shake hands, that's that's not going
to make you a great player, that's just going to
make you a run of the meal player. And so
(11:33):
it's a fascinating insight into psychology of what expectations and
how players deal with pressure, and also understanding that you
may have a niggle, but it's not an injury, it's
just soreness. It's not something that's going to hold you back,
and sometimes you can play through that. And this was
a case of him learning how much you can actually
play through with the right treatment and the right mentality.
(11:55):
So a huge lesson for a nineteen year old that
I'm sure it.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Was a change.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
It's going to change the way he looks at himself
to be able to make something of himself on the tour.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
So sliding doors moment for the exact is.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Mensic one that you've both been watching and thinking you're interesting,
You're going to be something.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
It's been pretty quick, I think if you look at
men's tennis in the last twelve months, Fonseca talking about
him before he sort of went boom, but he was there.
Men six jumped in rather quickly, rather quickly. But it
just I think it just shows that the generations that
sit underneath have been watching the greatest you know, they've
(12:37):
been watching some of the greatest tennis that you could
possibly play, and they've actually risen very quickly to those levels.
They've been dragged along by the levels, and I'm surprised
they're playing at the level so quickly in their careers
because the physicality of the game has moved on to
huge degrees and so to see them play it, I
(12:59):
think is astonishing because I was expecting that we would
be having this level of play when they are twenty five,
twenty six, twenty seven. Yeah, not when we've got nineteen,
twenty twenty one, twenty two year olds doing it. And
that's what we've seen. So all in all though, she's
great viewing well from a new name to an established name.
(13:19):
Sam what's called your eye this week?
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Yeah, Arena Sabolenka back holding the winner's trophy again. So
obviously she won in Brisbane first week of the year
and then kind of obviously Final AO Final Indian wells
a bit of a lean patch through Dubai in the
Middle East, but yeah, it comes out and wins four matches,
four of those matches against top twenty plays again absolutely
(13:42):
dominated the draw with every match being straight sets, and says, hey,
I'm still number one.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah, well, she is just an absolute rockstar on grass
and hard court. When are we going to see her
begin to dominate if she can on the clay.
Speaker 6 (13:55):
Well, I mean I don't see any reason why she
can't do well, or win titles, or potentially win the
French Obviously, she's.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Had the French in the Parma the hand I got
to say.
Speaker 6 (14:05):
It wasn't due to her not being able to play
on clay that she lost that match. So I think
a lot of it on the clay court comes down
to her own self belief in that moment potentially. But
since that particular match at the French Open, she's now
gone on to win more Grand Slams, she's been dominant
world number one, so all of these things are going
to help her go through and potentially do that. Obviously,
(14:27):
we have Eager, who is the clay court favorite no
matter what, probably to get through, but she be sorry, no,
she's going to believe that she can win a clay
court title, big one and whether that's you know, a
Madrid or Rome or French or wherever, she is absolutely
capable of doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I think Arena Saberlanka is one of the best bounce
back resilient champions that our game has had, because there
have been players that have been in situations like her
in major tournaments that have had meltdowns that have never
come back well, they've never gone to the levels again
that they were at at that point. Arena, on every
(15:06):
occasion where she's had something go against her, whether it
be a bit self inflicted, has come back better from it.
We've seen it from Paris, so no surprise to me
that she could go on and win at Rolling Gaross
this year. She's had what happened at this year's austraight
In Open, where you know she is expected to win
and you can see the devastation at the end of
(15:27):
the match.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But even then she was devastated, smashed the racket, but
then flick the switch, she was thrilled for her colleague.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Amazing.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, So she goes back in like thirty seconds over
a tournament and let's go back a couple of years
here in Osbord and she couldn't get a serve in
the court. Yep, remember man, Like that was the end
of a corner cover. Her career never could come back
when she got the yips like that. So Arena Sablenka
is for me one of the resilient champions. That is,
(15:55):
she's not done yet and there's many more tournament wins
to come, So more dance videos for you and your team.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
To go great. I love doing the sable anka TikTok dances.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Well break over to you. What's caught your eye for
the week?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Well you know, well, Danny L.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
Collins made it to round four going down to actually Sabolenca,
and on her way home from hard Rock I went
to say hard rock Cafe, but hard Rock Arena, she
came across an injured dog that had been hit by
a car.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
She rescued the dog.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
She took the dog to the hospital or the veterinary hospital.
It received emergency surgery and five days of oxygen. And
she has now adopted the dog and called it Crash.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Crash.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Crash is a labradoodle And I just think that's such
a beautiful story and I love I love it animals.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Danny Colins, she's cool, she's sassy. I love five Days
of Oxygen all.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
But yeah, I just thought that was a really beautiful story.
And you know, I think Crash is now watching on
it Charleston.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Great, we'll get Crashed on a plane in January. We
can meet the pub to see him.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
Quarantine.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, we don't want a Johnny Depp situation to happen
again now.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Global listeners, Australia has a very strict animal quarantine quarantine. Well,
we've got to protect our biodiversity here.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
We do in agriculture.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, all right, well that was what's caught our eye
for the week. Coming up next, we're going to jump
over to Charleston in a way with Nick mccarvill.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Stay tuned for the tennis.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Welcome back, while we are joined from Charleston kicking off
the clay season with Nick mccarvill.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Hello, Nick, how's the air power?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You look all the better for hearing your voice in
my ears. How's the weather over there?
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Oh man, it is muggy.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
I think Sam will be familiar with the noseums. They
are the tiny mosquitoes that love anyone who's not from Charleston.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
They will eat you alive. So zev. There's been a
lot of bug spray.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
But other than that, it has been a beautiful few
days here.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
To say you love Charleston, I absolutely do.
Speaker 6 (18:02):
It was always one of my favorite tournaments on the
on the calendar, but not only for the tournament, but
also for where I could go and eat my dinners
every night. So have you been to Fig yet because
that is my all time favorite rest?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, Sam, they're actually asking you, asking about you the
other night.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
No, it just you're so right.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
It really is this place where all the players love
coming here.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
It's like a mid sized southern city in the US.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
It's got a lot of that hospitality and charm halls,
chop house, Fig, all of these restaurants. I think I'm
around The tournament director makes sort of blanket reservations for
all the players downtown. Sam, you would know better than
me about that. But yeah, the culinary experience is second
to none.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Let's go from culinary to court. Nick, Yeah, looking bit moldy,
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (18:53):
A zave doesn't understand that there is green clay.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
In the United States.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
In fact, I think it was my least favorite surface
of all was a struggle for me. But green clay
everyone said, oh it should suit you. It's quicker, bounces,
higher and all of that. But it's a lot different
to red. Why hasn't Charleston had a look at actually
transforming into a red clay surface.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
They could do that, couldn't they.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, I mean maybe they have. Todd actually, and you
and Sam would know this pretty well. I think the
players really actually like the transition between it the Indian
wells and Miami hardcourt conditions, and then you kind of
get this next step towards the clay season. So, like
you say, it's not quite the slippery red European clay.
It's got a little bit more bounce to it, and
(19:38):
you can slide on it somewhat. But I think it
provides a lot of the players, especially the Americans.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
We've got nineteen of them in the.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Draw this week, that little bit of intermediary from the
hard courts to the true European clay.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
I like, I'm very well done. I think you've nailed
that response. I thought your problem, SOLB was more laundry related.
It was harder to get out of your watch, your
and things like that. Oh No, no, no, no. Red
sox are harder to clean than the green ones, by
the way, cooled.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Not I thought it would be because it's darker. It
was a silly question.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I really think Todd's ever done more during his love.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I actually used to sew pleat shorts to make sure
they fit.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I sold all badges onto my sleeves.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
But not for a while.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well, I haven't played for a while.
Speaker 5 (20:21):
But what events were on Todd? What events were on
green clay that you would have played in? Because now
Charleston is the only, at least the tour level, the
only on green clay.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So where did you play on green clay?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Obviously it was around a similar time of the season
where the US clay court used to be played in
various places. We played in Pinehurst, North Carolina on the
green clay. We played down in Orlando on green clay
at Disney World, and so there were variations of what
we did with that. And I actually want to clay
(20:54):
court to believe it or not. Somehow it was a
very poor drawer.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Greg.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
When Greg Ruizetskin and I had made the final for
clay court time, you know things are troublesome, but we
were in Coral Spring, which was on Red Clay. And
that's why I asked that question, because there are obviously places.
Houston is currently underway on the men's Tour this week,
and that obviously is Red Clay too. That's one of
the rare clubs in the States that has it. But yes,
we did have to do that, but I always found
that transition.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Sort of difficult.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I played better on Red than I did on Green,
which is weird, and I didn't play very well on
either of.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You gave it a go. So Nick, who's making headlines
early on over there in Charlton.
Speaker 5 (21:31):
Well, it's been a big welcome home for Madison Keys.
I mean, no surprise, you guys, the Australian Open champion.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
She's sort of having. It's been cool to watch she's
been having this victory tour in the.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
States of Indian Wells, Miami and now Charleston. She and
Jessica Pagoula are the top seeds. It feels like they're
the two favorites coming in. But then you've got players
like Austa Panko, You've got Amma Navarro, who is sort
of the hometown hope a lot of people for years.
It was Shelby Rogers. She was trying to punch up
into that top level. But now I am Navarro as
an established Grand Slam semifinals.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Someone who's been in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I have to tell you, guys, there's a lot of
Southern ladies following the Tennis and Charleston as I think again,
as Samuell knows, and there they all want to get
a look at Emma Navarro. I'm not going to try
my best Southern accent, but they all want to see
their homegirls give them and I will say, no, I'm not.
I'm not even leaving that thanks, but I I will say.
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Dasha Kazakina was on the court for the first time
today with an Australian flag next to her name, and
it was actually pretty emotional.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
She said a couple of times she.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Just couldn't, you know, couldn't stop looking at that Australian
flag next to her name, which I think is really cool.
And Dasha is actually a really home favorite here. She
won this tournament in twenty seventeen. People really got to
know the Dasha that we know in tennis, and it
was a cool moment to see her experience that moment
with the Australian flag in front of a Charleston crowd
that knows her so well.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Well, we do have quite a few Aulsis over there anyway,
don't we. We've got Isla over there as well as
Olivia Gadeki, Tom Lenovichho, do we have.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Much Ossie kind of fans over there? Pushing?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh, great question the tame along.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
I haven't seen any Australian fans just yet.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I'm sure there's rounds.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
Last year they had forty nine state fans from forty
Nited states. Out of the fifty they had fans from
seven different countries, so I'm guessing Australia would be represented.
We actually had Ala on my court yesterday the Afia
Gibson Club court and Cruise, her dog was here and
you guys, he was watching watching the match court side,
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watching Mom play.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
So probably watching the bowl.
Speaker 5 (23:42):
There's one love that, yes, well, watching Mom too, Brie.
There's at least one Australian fan, Cruise Isla's duck.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, well, hang on, how are the dogs there?
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Because I also in my what caught my eye, I
spoke about Danielle Collins's new dog, Crash and I saw
he was in the stadium as well. How the dogs
in Charleston and how do we get them at our
events in Australia.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, so we wanted, honestly a great creditation, no idea.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Okay, great, could you look into that.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Allan Sky has got her dog here too, Yeah, yeah, totally.
I'll get back. You'll be your I'll be your rapotter, rapotter.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
That yeah, come on.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Okay, was about to say, we're really looking forward to
having you back in Melbourne for a twenty six but
after this we'll have a chat offline.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Oh was that on me?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Or no, we'll just blame brain.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Well, Nick, anything that as you head back out there
to court announced for Charleston, Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I just I mean it's the best.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
I love this gig, Sam knows Althia Gibson Club Court
while I'm sitting in the sort of like clubhouse that
just overlooks the court and it really is sort of
that I think of tournaments like Brisbane, you know, that
event and people come out and support it so well,
it's got a f only feel. The food, like Sam says,
is just amazing and this is a great atmosphere. You know,
this has been the WTA five hundred Tournament of the
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Year the last three years, and the Southern hospitality is high,
and it's just a great event, I think, especially for
the Americans, like U Australians know it really well. The
Americans they have to leave now for months before they
get to come back for the US Swinging. So I
think it's a nice sunder for those American Americans team too.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I feel for them having to leave for you know, eight.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Weeks, if that, if that six hour fly goodness, Todd's
been home for about five minutes in the last twenty
four months. Hey, before we do, let you go the ALTHEA.
Gibson court that you're talking about. How fabulous is it.
We don't talk about Authea Gibson very often in the
world of tennis. The first African American champion that dominated
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at Wimbledon and the US Open, was also a professional golfer.
She had so many things covered and in the sport
of tennis. I didn't know we had a court named
after her there in Child And good on them for
actually showcasing one of the greats of our game.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And I'm sure you'd agree with that, Nick oh hugely.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
So I mean ALTHEA Gibson was the original black pioneer
in women's centers, and every year they bring back her legacy.
They talk about charities that do work in sort of
her name and her spirit, and don't you worry, Todd,
I'm saying ALTHEA Gibson Club Court as many times as
I'm glad.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
That's fantastic. Well, Nick, thank you so much for joining
us over there.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Stay warm, stay cool, whatever you need to do, get
some barbers and.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Have fun out there.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Cheers for it. I appreciate it. Thanks you guys.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Stay away from them. There's no cms, Nick, exactly.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I'm trying.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
All right, we are back for more of the tennis now,
Sammy about to pop up to Brisbane.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
What are you doing up there?
Speaker 3 (26:50):
BJK god tie.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
We played Keazakhstan and Columbia, so it's gonna be a
tough week ahead, but really looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Expectations. I mean, if Kazakhstan send their full lineup, that's
going to be tough.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Well, I mean everything points that they will have Rebakna
and Putinsuva at least probably playing the singles matches. So yeah,
they're obviously the probably the team to beat. Given rankings
on paper and everything. So yeah, not going to be easy,
but we do have the home crowd, support, home crowd,
home court. We love playing in Brisbane. We played there
many many times. It's a home court for Kim Berrell
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and now my join as well. So you know we've
got some things in our favor and we believe we
can do it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, I mean, Ozzie's love tennis, but Queenslanders bloody we love.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I do.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Interesting one.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
The last time the Ozzie BJK Cup team played Columbia
was when you Sam made your debut as a player.
What do you remember about making your debut and playing
against I just read that who had great fact. Yeah
it was in Wolong team in Wollongong and I was
probably a little bit surprised to get the gig to
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actually play and I lost six four in the third
to Fabia Fabiolo Zuluwaga, but put in a really good
performance and yeah did what I could. I last, but
it was an unbelievable experience.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
You loved it.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
It was like two thousand and three.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I feel like that's what the guy said this morning.
What did it feel like for you donning the Green
and gold for BJK Cup for the first time. It
would have been fed cut fak and what did it
feel like? It felt oversized because it was a very.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Jacket.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Oh god, but.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
No, very very special.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
And you know, if I remember correctly, I think the
team was Alisha, Pratty and Stubsy. So for of a sudden,
I'm then put into this team of you know, Australia's
best plays and people that I looked up to playing
and just thought practicing with them occasionally was you know,
oh my gosh, I'm practicing with Alisha here and.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know that sort of thing.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
Actually on the team and actually got to play the
match at one of the matches. So yeah, it was
incredibly special. And like I said, I still remember it.
I know who I played, the score, you know, and
you know it was a long time ago. But yeah,
I think every time you get to put on the
Green and Gold, you really cherish it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Who hinghed me moment.
Speaker 6 (29:19):
But now you're the captain about to play the same country.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
On the tennis ye whatever, whatever, ye.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
As a player against Columbia now.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Full sir coach, you got to close it out though
we want to win.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
Well exactly, I've got to turn the tables now on
my own personal result, no pressure. So who did you
lose to Fabiola Zuluwaga when she's like top twenty. I
actually saw her at the Olympics. She was there with
the Colombians with the ticket part of the coaching staff.
I actually don't know if she's part of the BJK
coaching staff. But that was the last time well, yeah,
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last time I saw it, which wasn't that long ago,
but considering it's probably twenty years in between.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
But still hanging onto that little hatchet.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Okay, I've got more of a serious question, but sorry,
Todd has a serious question. But jumping into the captaincy
is a lot of a lot of stress and precious
because you've got to manage more than just one player.
You've got the coaching, you've got, the setup, you've got. Yeah,
so how you're handling that?
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, well it's yeah, it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
You know.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
Even last night wasn't sleeping so well. I was thinking
practice and these hours and then that, and how you
divvy up the court times and all these things.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
So there's and selections.
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Well, and obviously that is the main one that you
do sometimes loose sleepover of who to put on the
court for what day, and against you know, matchups against
opponents potentially, but then rankings coming to play with who's
allowed to play who and all these sorts of things.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
And how are you with them delivering the hard discussion.
Speaker 6 (30:55):
Look, it's not easy. It is tough, but I hope
just get putting it, you're off and where you go.
I do think the good thing is all our players
do genuinely support each other, so before for that, they
know it's not it's not a personal decision. There might
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whatever comes in to play, and every single time, at
least in my experience, they've been on the sidelines cheering
for their teammates.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
So it's not easy. I know.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
I know what it's like to be playing and also
not playing. It sucks when you're not playing, but that's
part of being in a team.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
When pretty walks in with the ball basket going, we've
got more work I've got you know, you didn't get pitched.
It's you've got to have a scapegoat. You've got an
orange girl. You've got a scape girl, you've got a captain,
You've got all these roles that are very important to
the JK Cup.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Right, it's pretty exciting, but you go any guess.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
Yeah, I've got one question. Tyler's won a couple of
matches in Charleston.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Is that me?
Speaker 3 (31:54):
T'm alad of itch? Is that making selection harder? Do
you think?
Speaker 6 (31:58):
Well, it's always hard no matter what. But now she's
obviously one two matches there, which is great. She's going
to be feeling more confident. Yes, now she's going to
be coming into Brisbane later than the rest of the team.
But I think if you're coming in having won matches
and feeling good about your tennis and yourself, that's a
really good problem to have. So you know, hopefully she
can keep going and she shows up really late for
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her own result, but we'll cross that bridge.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
When we get to it.
Speaker 6 (32:23):
When she does arrive. And like I said, we just
got to see who's doing what during the week, how
everyone feels matchups and you know, you call it and
you're back at starting fingers cross.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
It is an exciting time for Australia Tennis. Global Tennis
will stay tuned. There's probably still a couple of tickets left.
I don't know, maybe give it a Google.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, definitely, we want to see you there, come support us.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
You in particular you. I'm staring at the camera for
those who are not watching on YouTube and if you
can't get to Brisbane, you can watch it.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
You can watch Todd.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
You can watch it, watch Todd, Tod, you watch it. Yeah,
you can watch it on nine to them.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yeah all right, well BJK to the top five.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Bri, I see you've got another top five. Now, I've
got some buttons here. Start with the purple and I
believe so get so I.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Get excited when there's buttons and cake.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Have you had your meds today?
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Too many or not enough?
Speaker 2 (33:16):
We'll find out what your analysis after analysis.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
So we've hit clay court season. So I thought we'd
do some top five facts about clay courts. Last year,
I didn't do clay courts. I did Wimbledon. I did
grass courts five. So I just thought these are taken
from Rolling Garras. So I'm sure every court is quite different,
but I thought i'd go with the main court.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Everyone knows well, they know clay too, so.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, good, I would assume everyone's different.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Let's do it five.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Cool.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So this is about the physicality of the court. So
they say that it might be more physically demanding, but
clay apparently is the least hardhush of surfaces because it
protects the joints and limits the risk of injury, making
it an ideal surface for any player. Now, I wanted
to actually hear what you guys think of that. Injury
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taught me, well, I think on the joints, for sure,
it's a lot easier.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Nice.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Yeah, and it's just softer and you can slide. You're
not like getting that quick stock back the jar. Having
said that, if you slip, you can. I pulled a
bit of a hip flexa thing by slipping one year.
But I just love clay, so I would play on
it any day of the week.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Good, all right, well you got hang on.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Top.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
No move on, I'll let the true court I give that.
Speaker 6 (34:43):
At Roland Garros it has eight people I needed to
prepare the court and one hundred people are responsible for
maintaining the court.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
And that's what makes it an expensive surface? Yeah, okay, So,
and that's why you know it's tougher to have clay
clubs like in Australia because of the costed you know,
in the in Europe it's a different scenario with the
clubs there. They're very social and community based in small
villages and there's people that can can jump in and yeah,
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so I didn't know it was that many though.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Yeah, yeah, so I guess if you have a clay court,
you'd have to keep on it. You can't just let
it go for it, right, a.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Bit of a weaving, you've got to get back out,
put the top dressing back on again. Runs, get some
more red dust.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Yeah whatever, brush a few more bricks. There we go.
Speaker 6 (35:36):
So, in terms of maintenance for Roland Garris, in the morning,
the courts are uncovered and swept during the matches. Between
every set, courts are swept. Lines are brushed after the matches, sweep, brush,
water evening, intense watering every day, repeat if it rains.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Repeat.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Sounds like my morning routine. But crazy.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
It's a lot, isn't it? And they throw the.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Other Yeah, layers, I went to put it in bro
I thought that would take too long to explain the
different volume layers say it because if you practice early
then you can still see it all over.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
The court's gone down into the actual the actual fine
and understand the salt, so wat the salt is in
the mornings, right, So if you go back years ago,
they didn't have covers on the courts overnight, so if
you had overnight showers, you come in and it would
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be quite muddy and it could be very very heavy,
and so rolling garrils played very differently to how it
does today.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
Totally. We're the dependent.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Now you come in, you they water the courts, put
the covers on, come back the next morning and they
take them off, and they know how close they're going
to be. But the back of the courts, where there
are uncovered there might be rain. They throw in big
chunks of hard salt really soak up the water to
dry it quicker. And that's what you don't want to
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put it on your salad, is the proper rocks sunk
corselick type thing down the back.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
It's yeah, we are.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
What are we up to to?
Speaker 6 (37:16):
So one point one in tons tons t O n
s so tons?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Wow, a red.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Clay used to build a court.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
And this figure increases to one point five and I'm
not gonna be able to say it Philip.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Court, which is obviously bigger.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
The center court.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Was that because of extra use or bigger? Massive?
Speaker 4 (37:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, I think you.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
They say one point one ton for the whole rolling girls.
That's a lot of clay. Wow, used to build a court.
That's a basic court one point five. I wonder we
use plus cushion or whatever you have here? Hard court.
Just vacuum it off, get the dicon.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It was just painted blue something or other.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Remember what, Yeah, we'll do it.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Cement.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, slap down was like, no, no, even I know
that there's like a lot going on there. That's the
wrong button now, ok.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Number one.
Speaker 6 (38:12):
So this is a fact everyone will probably know. But
our very own birthday panelists won it. Rolling Garras which
one both of you right doubles count?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Okay, good.
Speaker 6 (38:22):
I was just making short like your face. I was like,
hang on, is Wikipedia wrong?
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Who do you think wrote the Wikipedia page for top Wollobridge.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Todd in doubles in the year two thousand, hit CHK
and Sam in doubles in two thousand and six, and
the singles final in twenty ten.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah that wasn't me, now that's so yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's right. Double Still can you.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Tried to say earlier you were really bad at.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Clay, which always.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
No, Yeah, we was. I actually liked playing on clay.
The problem was like the clay court season sort of
about ten eleven weeks long in a way, and on
week eleven, I finally used to get it and I
was there and I was playing and I had all
the shape was in the right space, and then then.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Boom, grass grass.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
And that was the hardest part, like the first five weeks,
four weeks, was actually adapting a fast, caught, flat hitting
game to Clay.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
Yeah, and you're just like, that's how I felt on grass.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
I'd get to like.
Speaker 6 (39:27):
A few weeks and you'd get to the end of
Wimwood and where it turns to dirt because there's no
grass slept.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
But now I like this now familiar.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
But you know what, that's the one thing where I
think the game has changed enormously now is that we're
talking right now this week about transitioning from the hardcore
season onto Clay. And when that used to happen, you
used to have players fall off in terms of form.
If you're a hardcore player, you had to play well
because you knew you were not going to make any
point of on that next season, that next sort of
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set because until you got to the grass and then
you had to go hard game. Now we watch players
like mensik it wins in Miami. He slides across the baseline.
He's just going to transition from sliding on the hardcourt onto.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
The clay on his knees.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
The young kids today play a game style that adapts
to all surfaces. And they're so big, so strong, so athletic.
They hit winners off both wings. They've got plenty of
spin and shape on the ball, they can flatten the ball.
They all serve huge, So transitioning from surface to surface
is not as big an issue as it used to be.
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And I think that's something we can even look at
to change what we see in tennis in sort of
having groundhog Day events. That's where court speed and balls
and all those things become a little different, where you
can have different challenges in I mean in terms of
players challenging to go forward and win events, because it's
much easier now and we don't see so many players really.
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You know, Pete Sampras, who was the ultimate Grand Slam champion,
was all at sea when he was on clay, Roland Garross,
he never won it. And you don't see one of
our up and comers and think of them like that anymore.
Speaker 6 (41:07):
One question for you, Sam as a finalist at Roland Garris.
Is that your favorite slam?
Speaker 1 (41:12):
It was to play?
Speaker 6 (41:13):
Yeah, as far as tennis goes on the court, if
the clay was your surface, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah, you did it.
Speaker 6 (41:21):
I mean it sounds silly saying that having won in
New York, but I think I won more grand same
matches at Rolling Garris anywhere else. And Mike like, I
think I had Semmes three times a final.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
It gave you the belief really.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
That, Yeah, exactly. So I had that final.
Speaker 6 (41:36):
I had Semis in two thousand and nine, final in
twenty ten. Then I won in twenty eleven at the
US Open. But I'd had that on the clay, and
I just yeah, I just love playing on those courts.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Yah.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, Well, speaking of things, we love Ace of the
Week something that doesn't have to be translated, prefer if
it's not. It's giving you a little bit of joy
this week. You've got a big green if I'm going
to go back to Arena Savallenca.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Because when my mum was still alive and we'd go
down to the bowling club and you know, mum would
have a little beer or two and a little shandy
and someone would come in and she goes, don't you
know who is?
Speaker 1 (42:14):
He's one of the Woodies, and.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I'm like, oh, Mark Hell and Arena Sanvlenca had this
issue this week where she's gone out to dinner after
winning Miami and this absolute what would we call him,
unfortunate human comes along and says, this is my table.
I want that table, And one of Arena's team goes,
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don't you know who she is?
Speaker 1 (42:38):
She's number one woman in the world. And I had
to laugh at that because it made me think of
my mum.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
But it was also such a classic moment here they
are celebrating their dinner, they still got all their food
on the table, and this guy's coming in and saying
this is my table, and the righteousness of him was
and she came out of it looking fantastic. And I
think he'll be highly embarrass for a long time because
he's gone absolutely viral and he deserves to be slapped
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down for.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
What he did and how he made. Well done.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
Arena, I'll definitely be looking up that one afterwards. Good
we'll add it to the show notes of the episode,
and can you make sure that happens? Great good Man, Sam,
what's your ace of the week.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Well, it was my birthday on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (43:21):
Yes it was, Yeah, I what happened Saturday night? Went
out to the Comedy Festival in Melbourne. Best of the
Brits and another guy in a little tiny bar felt
I did feel a bit bad. There's only like twenty
seats in there and there was only about twelve taken.
One of them was Sam Stoza, so I did feel
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like he was making eye contact only with me, but
I think it was only because there.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
Was no one else to look at it. That was
where someone said do you know who she is?
Speaker 6 (43:50):
But it was very, very fun. I love going to
the comedy That was great. And then went tenpin bowling
the next day some new funky place so and out
for Mexicans.
Speaker 3 (44:00):
So I had a bit of a birthday weekend.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
It was a good outing. We'll happy birthday once again. Yeah,
thank you. What's your rest of the week?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
One's a double up.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
I went to comedy festival on Monday night. I went
to a preview that showed about twelve different I got
invited because they were mostly TikTok comedians and they each
did about three minutes each, which is more than what
we would normally do on TikTok, which is really good,
good for them. But they're all in the comedy fests.
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They're funny, they were amazing. They were very funny because
comedy is kind of changing, like lots of things, right,
A lot of comedians are coming up through social media.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
And yeah, it was also say comedy was changing. It's
no longer funny.
Speaker 6 (44:45):
How they're being noticed and found, which I think is
good for comedians, right, because it's such a hard slot,
it's so hard to make it through, and it was
so funny. And midway through I was busting to go
to the toilet and I was like, I am not moving.
There is no chance in hell I am. Because comedians
love it when someone gets up to go there got smashed,
(45:08):
holding on hold. As soon as it ended, I've never
got out of a theater faster to go the toilet.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
Did you make it? I just made That's awesome, Very
happy for you, Thank you. Okay, mine of the week. Now,
some of you might know I live in a part
of Victoria here in Australia. Mount Macedon.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
It is, you know, world renowned for its trees and
we've just entered autumn. Yes, so all of the trees
are changing. It looks like New England in Northeast America. Yeah, Vermont, Yeah, exactly.
It looks stunning. Of course with that comes a lot
of tourists and leaf peepers, people who come to take photos,
but traffic hazards aside. It's just a beautiful time of year.
And that's why both of you if you come in
(45:45):
your jackets today was colder. Now in Melbourne, I have
to come down from my red leaves and talk to
you lovely people about tennis.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Beautiful. Yeah, I like you. For you.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
I'm all the way from South Yarra.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Across the river here to Melbourne Park.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I'm glad you made it my twenty four minute walk.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
He did it well, thank you New PB Yeah it
is actually that's pretty good. Well, thank you all once
again for joining us on the tennis great thank you.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Looking forward to the Red Clay the Chess of tennis.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
So good.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Sure, okay join us again.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Next week the a TOV Tour heads to Monte Carlo
and our Aussie women will be back on home soil
fighting for a place in the Village in King Cup
final finals. In the meantime, don't forget you can watch
this episode and every episode of The Tennis on the
Australian Open YouTube channel, and while you're there, give it
a subscribe. Hit the bell never missed an episode of
this or any of our other content. Thanks team, have
a great week in tennis, sure to make you so soon.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Thank you.
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