August 7, 2025 • 47 mins
Big titles are up for grabs in Canada, with local teenager Victoria Mboko to face a resurgent Naomi Osaka in the Montreal final. Meanwhile at Toronto, the absence of Jannik Sinner, Carlos Alcaraz and Novak Djokovic has left the door open for 11th seed Karen Khachanov, who's locked in a showdown with in-form American Ben Shelton. Experts Daria Saville, Simon Rea and Matt Trollope join Xave to discuss all the big stories from north of the American border before the tours move to the US. Novak Djokovic is rolling the dice by skipping the lead-in tournaments to the US Open — the panel debates whether the gamble will pay off in his bid for a record 25th major title. Plus, we celebrate some recent successes for The Tennis family including Australian TV Week Logie Awards for Todd Woodbridge and Jelena Dokic.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the Tennis oh Canada, surprises Glory
in Montreal and Toronto, a rise Queen Victoria, the Canadian
teen turning heads at her home event, and Novak's US
Open gamble. Djokovic rolls the dice on a shot at
a twenty fifth major title. That's all have more with me.
Zag muhlback alongside me today from the sit down. Matt
(00:25):
Trelope across the table.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome, Yeah, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's really good to have you filling in for young
Bree who's at home with tonsils the size of tennis balls.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, very sorry for Bree, but hopefully yeah, doing the
right thing looking after it.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Keeps at home.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Rest up and I'm sure I'll make some in appropriate
comments throughout this show that she will enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hope laughter, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And next to me is the one and only star
of the Court and Queen of TikTok Stario Sevil. Welcome
back to the show on a different side of the desk. You,
I know, I like having you there.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Let's not talk.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Why no, no, no, we won't go into that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah that's fine, but now you've brought it up, and
now everyone at home are in their car, is thinking
why is she sitting there?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Purely she liked the look of the glass.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
There was a green glass of water on that side
of the table and she went, oh, that'll do. But
that's why we're here. And across the way next to
Matt the man with the sharpest mind in tennis, it
is Simon Raiser Ray.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Welcome back back, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Good, it's thrilling to have you here at all times.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Your computer with stats.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, I can attest it is on and it's looking
very fascinating.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Analyticsy yeah, mate will vouch for.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That, yes, so can you well? Stick with you Raiser.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's a quick highlight from your time at Wimbledon with
the Aussie brigade Now you're back on home to.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Probably the highlight for me is I was seeing Tylier
Gibson qualify at Wimbledon and come back and what was
a phenomenal match to watch. And there's something about the
romance of the qualifying at Wimbledon. Being out at Roehampton
and found herself in this this this fantastic tussle against
Solana Sierra, who I really rate, I rates here quite highly.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Thinks she made fourth round.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
There, yeah, and save match points and kept at it
and just kept persevering. It was one of those moments
where you're able to witness reward for effort, incredible reward
for effort in real time and not just in that match,
but over an extended period of time and kind of
cantid myself lucky to be able to witness what it
meant to her and Cody, your coach, and the Australian
(02:20):
team on the sidelines there.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So that would have been my highlight seeing tari a
qualified for woman.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Absolutely great highlight.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Now that you're visiting us from the sit Down, How
Sister podcast, which is.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Very time invited to sit down.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
You and Luke.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, you are a guest of the sit Down Dasher,
that's okay, you can.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Go back and find.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Moment. I'm like, no for bones, but you don't remember
you were on it, But that's fine. It was a
great show. I enjoyed her.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I kind of thought that's more than it was the
same thing.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
But our podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Because it was you know, you are right dash this album.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We're more welcome here.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
I feel like is that I've come back here a
few times, so Matt, it is on you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It wasn't me because I was sick that day and
I did it remotely and it was in studio. Yeah,
but that is something we are doing. We've been doing
it for about eighteen months now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, because it was the Monday episode essentially of this podcast. Yes,
but then we broke them apart to give them their
own runway.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And so you mentioned that you did an interview with
Dasher and your lovely husband Luke.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, and we had another on today. Just this morning,
Vive and I chatted to Caspa and Christian Root, which
was great. They were in Cincinnati at their hotel. They
were about to start. I mean, Casper, I think is through.
He'll get a buye through to the second round, but
he was just at since he preparing. So yeah, we
got a chance to chat to both of them.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, unique.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Was there anything juicy in there that maybe people would
be quite interested?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
There were some really interesting things in there. Casper talked
a lot about that US Open run where he got
to if he beaten Olkhaz in the final, he would
have been world number one, and so that was kind
of interesting hearing his thoughts. Only a minor, just a
little bit to play for but Yeah, that was really
cool and obviously three years on yeah, just yeah, he
refers back to that and with the US open about
to start, that's kind of cool that that is kind
(04:15):
of top of mind again.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, so when's that going to be out in people
being excellent? Well, gang, can we make sure we've got
a link to that episode in the description or at
least to the podcast. People can subscribe and get ready
for Monday.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And get a link with my definitely.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Another link in Yes, going back to Dasher and sit down.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I just want to make sure.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What did I say?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, it's there.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Definitely excellent. We love Dash your back as well. You
enjoying being home very much. So yeah, but what's next
to you?
Speaker 8 (04:48):
I am going to New York just yea, never touched
the ground. Yeah, I am going to play us so.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's exciting, which is nice. Yeah, taking the ball and
chain slash coach.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
Well, actually Luc is helping out James McKay, so that's
his focus. So I'll be on my own now. But
Tennis Australia always looks after us and they definitely got
my back.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Great, all right, well, good luck to you. It's going
to be a blast over there.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Pratty is there.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
She we're actually doing like a little camp in Orlando,
which was organized again by.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Tennis Australia.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Because there's no tournaments to play the week before qualifying
unless you're in second week of Cincinnati and so makes
it a little bit hard. And I'm coming there early
to join the girls in Orlando and then yeah, Pratty
is kind of the coach. We also have a team
(05:52):
of a trainer, fitness trainer, Matt Hayes and Alan here's
the physia. So we're very lucky.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You sound very well equipped. Look out New York.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
At USDA as well, So that was nice of them
to let us let us train there.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
We're all friends in the tennis game behind the scene,
Grandslin family, that's just so close knit.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
All the Europeans and Americans that come like, well, anyone
who comes here early are welcome.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, absolutely, give me the warm and fuzzies.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well, Dash, we'll stick with you and jump right into
what's caught your eye, so Dash Well Queen.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Victoria, Yeah, she's been absolutely killing it. She's in the finals.
You just mentioned. It's like, yeah, she's got she's having
the undress good moment. Yeah, Yeah, it's so true. But
it all started with her going and grinding in Europe
(06:56):
in January, which would have been very miserable, very cold.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And I've played.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Those tournaments in France where you're kind of in the
bubble and it's freezing. We complained that NCC is cold, but.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's yeah, Europe, it's freezing.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
So she won four thirty kight tournaments back to back.
Then she won another sixty thousand later on in March
in Portugal, I think, and that's when she started getting
into the Masters one thousands and yeah, it's incredible that
(07:38):
now she's in the final.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, and taking down Coco.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, sorry, why did we all just look at you?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Exactly what happened?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
That was?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So that was a big story.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, I guess the biggest story is that she's beaten.
She's beaten, saved match point to beat, rebarking her to
make the fun of it. But her journey along the way, Yes,
she beat Coca. That was the first time I saw
in Boco play against golf in Miami when she got
into the main drawer there, and I think she pushed her.
Was at Rome. I thought it was Miami, but anyway,
three sets she took I got a three sets somewhere
(08:09):
at one of the Masters before the French Open, and
Coco said, she's definitely one to watch. She pushed me
really really hard. And just the fact that she's coming
along in such leaps and bounds so quickly. I think
her live ranking is around thirty in the world or
something so like that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
She's on the track crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, and that's what was she when you said she
was in those you know, bubble tournaments in Europe, she
was outside the top three hundred, three hundred.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yes, started at three three three.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Yeah, her rise is I'm also impressed that I think
she would have been a little bit felt a bit
bit of a lad down with Wembledon. She lost in
the final round against Priscilla Horn, which were proud of
Priscilla qualified, but Priscilla saved a few match points there.
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So pretty cool that she was able to back and
perform like that at home.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I think Ash makes a great point too, when you
go back to, you know, the European lower level events.
It's a long way from the Australian Open and Melbourne
in January. And I've always felt like one of the
toughest things to do in our sport is to win
a title back up the next week and go deep again,
let alone doing that four weeks in a row. I
think that's a real marker along the way that if
(09:24):
you can do that, it's so often you see and
dashil Vouchl this you'll see a player win one week
and exit early the following week because the rigors of
the sport are fatigue or there's fatigue, there's travel normally,
and then there's the next hungry opponent waiting to kind
of claim your scalp the next week. So I think
it really speaks for development when you're able to put
repeat quality performances together, or perhaps it's not how well
(09:48):
you can play, but how poorly you can play, and
when your lower level is improving and enabling you to
go back to back to back to back deep at
events like dash is described in January. I think it's
a really key milestone along the way to good ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, not to mention, you're freezing your ass off in
Europe and every time you look at tennis Instagram, everyone's
Australian summer.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, you're like, what am I doing? But it's
but it's kind of cool as well. You kind of
develop a little bit or get that confidence kind of
off the radar. You kind of probably slipping under the radar,
and that is keen to accumulate that momentum because all
sides and so you can. It's kind of like your
almost long term plotting her later time.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, well let's have a quick little jump into the
time machine. Raisoray, you had a few thoughts on and
Boco earlier in the year. I think we got a
little clip from an episode of the Tennis and feb.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Victoria and Boco.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
There's another I think young player on the right. So
I watched her play Palabidosa out there in Miami right now.
She doesn't hold back on the ball. Just put a
little asterisk next to her game. Okay, she's got some
power and some weapons off both wings. She came within
a point or two of knocking off Palabadosa. We've spoken
about a Yaala a little bit already. We've spoken about Fonsaka,
So just adding Victoria and Boco was one to keep.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Okay, first question, First, next week's album numbers are come
on hit me well, very good prediction, very.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Good for ya.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I just wish everything you have.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You have reasons for your ideas and thoughts, talk us
through it well.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
I wish every prediction aged as well as that one has. Look,
I think you know, Dash has made a great point
about the ability to string repeat victories together at the
lower rings of the game. And then you watched her player,
or watched her play in Miami, and the weapons leapt
off the court at you. Literally in terms of the
heat she brings not just on first but on second serve.
Her both serves are a legitimate weapon for her. She's
(11:32):
got a great team around her. Natalie took Tausier and
the Tennis Canada Federation of supporting her really strongly. I
just felt like there's a physicality about her that's so impressive.
It just felt like a player that to me, wasn't
going to miss. And sure enough, what are we three
or four five months down the track, and she's on
the verge of being seated at Grand Slam time, so she.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Will be in. You're a helper now. She probably came
nothing to defend.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And even if she doesn't quite get it there through Canada,
all it would take is a couple of wins in
Cincinnati if she can do that, and it would confirm it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
But yeah, definitely.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Probably she would have been in qualities in Cincinnati. I
don't know what happens there if she gets should be
getting a special exam, I yeah, she should know the rules.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, that's right out the station, she'll see.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, I mean looking at Canadian women's tennis, like Eugenie's
just retired, but is this now a second era, another
coming of the Canadians.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They've had an amazing run in the last ten years.
I mean, I think and Boco even talked about when
Eugenie retired that she was a place she looked up
to and kind of was you know, Eugenie was that
first Canadian female play for years to do something huge
on the international stage. That it was just over ten
years ago, and so yeah, Boco would have been what
eight seven or eight, so she would have been, you know,
(12:51):
probably just starting her tennis journey and watching that, and
she did say that was inspiring to her. And then
since then there's been obviously andre Escu, Fernandez and now
in Bo. Every couple of years there's a Canadian that
comes up and establishes themselves. They've got a great pipeline.
So yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, all right, Well Matt, I'm gonna stick with you
like amazing effort from a boco. Congratulations. So Matt in Montreal,
what's caught your eye?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Tagus withraw, Yes, it's the other side of the draw.
It's Clara Towson. So she's always been on a lot
of our radar, particularly here because she was a junior
champion at the AA and she beat Fernandez in the
final in twenty nineteen. But she and then I remember
she beat in that COVID French Open that got moved.
She beat Jennifer Brady in the first round just after
Brady had made the US Open semis, and that was
(13:37):
a huge win. She was only seventeen, but then you
know COVID, she had lots of injuries and kind of
went off the raidar. But she was always We always
knew how good she could be, and so she has
since gotten through to the semis of the Canadian Open.
She's beaten igersh Fiontec and Madison Keys back to back,
which is incredible. They're both Rady major champions. That's huge.
She also beat Sablenka earlier in the years. She also
(14:00):
beat Rebiken her at Wimbledon. Like she's had these huge huge,
big name, notable wins, and I just think, yeah, I
never forget a conversation I had with Nicole Pratt two
years ago at the French Open, and I was talking
to her about something else, and she talked about being
on the practice courts and kind of I can't remember
who she was working with at the time or who
(14:20):
she was looking at, but Andreva caught her eye. But
she also mentioned Taoson and she just said that that
ball striking blew her mind and she reckoned it was
as big as Sablenka, but like technically better and she's like,
if she can get it together and stay injury free,
watch out. And so I've never forgotten that conversation. I've
always just kind of kept an eye on Tawson, and
you know, a year or two later that is coming
(14:42):
to Fruition. We knew she could do it, and it
is all coming together.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
So she also has a good feel like she can
hit a few job shots. It might it might not
look like Roger Federer, but she knows where to hit
them and when.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And very good on the like underrated on the defense,
like she against Chiante. Shante can really spread the cord
and move and that's always been the thing on taws
and get a moving because she's such a great ball stroker,
not the best mover, a better movie than you'd think,
like sid really improved. That would always get a racket
to balls and like loft it and it would drop
just on the baseline like she had that great feel
and she could reset points really well. So yeah, and
(15:19):
seems to be able to soak.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Up upon it anticipate well as yeah, which is huge.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So we're still at the time of taping, we're not
we don't have an outcome yet of her semi.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Final court against Osaka now, so hopefully BBC.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yes, this is going to be you know, exactly what
she needs to get her across the line played in
a yeah, headphones, but yeah, it'll be very easy to
see an outcome. But I think everything you've said is
incredibly relevant regardless of that semi final. But looking at
she's number nineteen in the world right now live ranking
of fifteenth now I just checked. But that's massive because
(15:53):
the start of the year she was fiftyev And then
this is really interesting. She won Auckland and she played
Osaka in the final, but Osaka got injured with an
ab so we never actually saw how it would have
played out, but even making the finals and then went
out with an injury. So this is kind of like,
right now, this is the rematch.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We're getting it. It's the rematch.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I mean, she's the number one Danish player in
the world, So is it time for her to be
kind of on the tips of people's tongues when we're
discussing the big guns of women's tennis.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I would say, so, yeah, more people should if you're
going to be beating if you've beating sh fiontech sablenkak
keys and doing it on big states, you're going to
get noticed. And she's already starting to do her best
results at slams as well, So third round Australian, third round, French,
fourth round Wimbledon. This is her best season at the majors.
So you know, when you're starting to make second weeks
of majors, you know that's when the most people are watching.
(16:46):
So the US Open will be fascinating.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
And she's got fear factor and I think again Dash
makes a great point because she's able to compliment that
we spoke about weapons before with them Boco, and this
woman's got serious weapons again on his first serve, on
second serve off the grounds. Very few players on tour
that are doing more damage on the bald and towson,
and she's able to compliment some of those those weapons
that she's got in her arsenal with some of the
softer skills, which is so important and such a great
(17:10):
skill to have when you're backing your opponent up off
the baseline and you're bringing that fear factor to the
court and then you're able to identify and execute into
the space with some of the more nuanced.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Or some of the finest and then busting out some
of that incredible accuracy that you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
That is a pretty powerful game.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, and Matt makes a great point as well. You know,
I think the way you start the season, so you're
fifty at the year end rankings, fifty in the world
at the year end rankings last year, you come out
and you go deep in Auckland where you claim the
title in Auckland, you jump on a plane after the
austral Oup and you go to Lens you make the
semi finals, and then in the Middle East and Swing
you make the final and Dubai and lose to.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Thee which is where she beats all.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
There's momentum, right, and all of a sudden you've gone
from fifty too. I can checked the week by week rankings,
but you find yourself probably around mid thirties in the
world and maybe nearly seated for the French at that
point in time. And there's your momentum, and she's built
further on that as the years progressed.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Big Mo got to have that call back to the West.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
No one, it's to fact check me, but pretty sure,
let's just go the is the coach too now, since
like the beginning of the year, maybe even last.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Year, love all.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Just came to me like a voice from on high.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, very good.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
All right, well, Raiser, we've spoken about Clara and the
match he's currently playing at the.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Time of recording.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But her opponent, Namo Osaka, apparently she's caught your eye
and her form.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Take us through the numbers.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, I've just been really taken by you know, the numbers,
but as well the emotional story here or the change
in coach. So the splitting with Marata Glue post Wimbledon
and then doesn't hesitate. There was no messing around there
to pick up wi Darowski, so Igerschwiontek's previous coach, and
these are the I think, the fine margins that we
so often see in elite sports. So she finds herself
(18:58):
against earlier maybe second round in Montreal, against Lude Miller Samsonova,
who they were two and two coming in. And in fact,
I've watched a match they played in Berlin on the
grass just a couple of months ago, where sam Sonova
prevailed over Osaka in a tight battle. So this is,
you know, fine margins. Not much in this contest. She
finds a way past her three and the third, and
(19:20):
since then she started to steamroll. She's gathered moment and
it's that momentum word again. She's gone past Osta Pinko
two and four, she's given up one game over Sebastova,
and she's beaten Fitzelina two and two. I mean, those
are that's one way traffic and as signs there that
she's back to her best. And I was having a
look at the data and I was probably surprised, and
(19:40):
Dash perhaps would have been less surprised than I was.
The player on serve that is number one on tour
in terms of first serve points one is Naomi Osaka
over the last fifty two weeks.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
So when she lands her first serve in play, nobody
wins more points in behind that first serve than Naomi Osaka.
I would have had Sabolenka up there, head golf up there, Yeah,
keys up there. You know those are the players that
probably jump off the page. I was surprised to see that.
Is she gettable at times on the second serve? Yes,
the second serve doesn't pack the same punch as say
Clara Towson, So I'm interested as to how that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Means that a thing like just just wanting to get
it across and in the correct box, Like what's.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I think it's more, you know, it's a it's a
technical thing and a technical thing. Towson's prepared to maybe
serve some double faults on second serve and at the
same time she's looking for free points. You know, she's
bringing the fear factor or the threat on her second
serve as well. Naomi's prepared to be a little bit
more conservative on a second serve and back of groundstrokes.
So that was one thing that jumped off the page.
I mean number one on tour for first serve points
one which means on the spot, and you'll just be like,
(20:48):
you're going to need some creative editing.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Let me come back to you.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, so, Simon, are we looking at basically the best
version of Osaka once again?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Well, I think it's pretty close to it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah, I think all of a sudden, you know, I
don't think and when you track back over time, this
is the first time since twenty twenty two she's going
to find herself in the semis more better of a
one thousand level event and actually think her momentum has
been building. It hasn't been disastrous. It still takes a
hell of an effort to beat this woman, and these
are the fine margins, right, So this is where I'm
looking at that sam Sonova contest in Montreal and I'm going, well,
(21:22):
maybe that's the moment. Maybe that's the time when the
pendulum swung the other way, and she's going to build
on that. She finds herself in the semi final right
now as we sit here, and who knows what the
ceiling is This week springboards into Cincinnati, springboards into the
US Open, where we know she's played great before, and
all of a sudden, it's a different conversation again.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So that's the way I'm looking at it.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, and speaking, I was definitely thinking of US help
because in mine of her interviews she's like, well, I
might be a seed for the US Sulton.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Now, well, she was kind of putting a few things
out even this morning or yesterday about her outfit choices
for the US. She's like, keep your eyes peeled ready
for every facet of the next big step in the
grand same.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I heard that interview too, she said she's talked about
tracking her seating for US opener that outfit it crushes
it or something like that. She said, that effect on
my outfit's lip or something like that.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Yeah, a few seated players would be happy that Naomis
finally is seid because she's actually had like really tough
first round drawers since her comeback.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, Well, thank you very much for your insights, Raiser,
any chance you found that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Seventy four percent second second on tour? This is going
right through Rebikner, who you mentioned. I think mattch she's
just behind at seventy three, Okay, and some of the
other suspects, the likes of Cocoa Golf she's at seventy.
Badosa's at nearly seventy. Chin Win Jing's up there at
nearly seventy. So she's just got that little marginal that
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leedge on the rest of the field.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So Powerball next week is seventy. That's what I've heard
from your predictions. Crat All Right, well what caught my
h Let me tell you. Novak Djokovic, Yeah, the goat.
So he's withdrawn from Cincinnati for the second straight year,
which means he So he pulled out for a non
medical reason, and it's fine, he has his reasons. I'm
sure he's going to go into the US Open without
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any hardcourt match play. So he's last match, that's okay.
But I don't think he's got you know, a company,
a governing body supporting him.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Florida more matches than I have this year, though.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But his last match was playing center at Wimbledon on
the turf. So it just you know, as a lay
tennis fan, like, I'm not the big brains at the
table that I have around me, but it's kind of bonkers.
So how is he going to pull this off? I
want a data approach, I want an insight and insider
approach and a player approach.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You start dash it because it's the same, it's the
same lead off as you.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Well, mine is also fundical reason.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Is it too long to go without playing matches? Well pla, I.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Would say so honestly, yes, I I was actually hoping
to play an event before, but I've changed my mind
a million times of where I was at with my
mental health, and then it was kind of I've decided
that I want to go to US Open. It's because
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I feel like I have a bit of fomorph and
I am excited like it's it is a Grand Slam,
So I don't I feel like it would be let
down and I would then sit here at home in
Melbourne and feel like, oh I should have gone. So
I don't want to have any regrets. But I think
Novak has mentioned that he wants to shorten his season,
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like he wants to play less, and I mean Serena
did that. If you tell times and people like players
do it after Wembledon, We're sorry after French Open, where
they maybe don't play any warm up events before Wembledon,
but not not before yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And he's kind of he's got some big things on
the line.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So is he resting up because he wants to be
as ready as he can because he wants that twenty fish.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I think he actually wants to try it this way.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Maybe, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Think that's right, And I think it's hard to knock,
you know, the change and approach from the perspective of
you're looking at an athlete that's prepared to do whatever
he can to give himself the ultimate chance at claiming
one more one title, one more grand.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
So it will be record break.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
And I think it's the equation energy in versus energy out.
I think it's as simple as that. And the energy
in that Dash is describing is normally time on match court, victories,
under the belt, momentum progress, confidence which has earned through action.
Confidence is not something you can't go to the supermarket
and buy confidence off the shelf to work and get going.
So I think it's to be applauded that he's trying
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something different again. He's prepared to go in there, maybe
slightly underdone from a physical perspective because he's thinking, I
need every ounce of energy available at the back end
of that fortnight. We know it's hot in humid there
in New York. We know it's a physical test over
five sets. He's just going to go in there fresh,
and he's going to back himself to find a way,
perhaps through some difficult moments in the opening week, and
back himself to get there with a little bit more
(26:23):
in the tank, deep in the event against the likes
of center in Ol Chorist.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And I mean, and I think this in my mind,
whenever a player attacks, you know, a period, they're not
sitting by the pool, wolf and down club sandwiches exactly
like they're still on the court every day. They're just
not competing at that level.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
So Blanka did mention in the interview she had one
week off where she only did like a stair workout
in her she said, flip flos.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, hey got her to where she is.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
There, you go, put your flip flips on, get on
the StairMaster head or some place.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Do what they know. I agree with you, Simon, they
do what they know works for them. Djokovic is a
bit like Serena in that he can come in to
slams and kind of hit the ground running or even
use those first couple of rounds too fine a bit
of form. He'll also be super I would imagine targeted
and specific about what he does on the practice court
in terms of like practice sets, getting ready, Like this
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is not his first slam. He knows because he said
at Wimbledon that he needs you know, he looked an
injury or that kind of wear and tear on his
body at this age affects him deep in Grand slams.
In five set seen which we've seen.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
And if we think about it, six weeks off is
not that much. And that's not six weeks off like
what we're saying a week off where he actually just
put his fit up and didn't do much, but then
you build back, it's not that big of.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, he's essentially kind of revving his engine up ready
to hit the I.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Feel like he's done it before where he hasn't played
that many matches and then came in fresh and that
was because he was healing an injury and then won
a Grand Slam.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I like it status quo. It's a different approach.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
He's earned the right more than any other player in
men's tennis anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I like it Trump. I genuinely think twenty five is
within reach.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's pretty It's the slam that it is the most
historically it's been the most open. It's less hoarded by
one or two players, Like there's a bigger range of
champions in the US Open.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It's interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, I'm so good, yes.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Because it Will's fright and Jokovic is not going to
be fried because he's played so he's poor, but just
comparatively less matches, but not no matches. I mean he's
gone deep at every slam he's got. There's plenty of
matches in the tank, but he hasn't pounded his body
and played like fifty. Yeah, so it could, it could.
This could be work great tying to rip up the
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record books.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
All right, let's do a little bit of a gear
shift from the joker to a demon. Simon, talk me
through little Alex demon ll I say little. He's probably
tall than me. He's just extually very He's just he's
little Alex.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And then he's like, you know, what do you want
on the shit? All right?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So quarterfinals at Toron tack, Yeah, give us some form analysis.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I've missed that demon. All well.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think before you look at any of the numbers,
I think one of the things that's or the thing
that's jumping off the page in terms of impressing me
so much. Over the last month or so post Wimbledon
has just been this refreshed mental approach and the energy,
the zest for the contest. He's up for the fight again.
So we saw a demon in Paris if we tracked
back to May that it wasn't the typical demon.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Just watching him rare surprised, watching him play against public.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
There was frustration towards the team, and you heard him
give voice to that afterwards. I haven't felt like myself
that the grinds getting me down even into the grass
court swing. Lost earlier I think in Queens, didn't play
the typical grass court schedule, went into Wimbledon underdone by
his own admission, again kind of just on the fence.
It felt like as to where his head was at Wimbledon,
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which is, you know, the hallowed grounds and has for him,
he holds it in such highesteam So to see him
in Washington and see some of the feats match point
down against the Vidovich Fakina in the final, and he
gave voice to it postmatch, Just that desperation, that ability
to scratch and color and find a way out of
some nearly impossible situations, and more importantly than all of that,
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to reflect on the match or the week post event
and say, I'm loving the battle again. I'm engaged in this,
I'm bringing my best tennis. I'm okay with whether that's
going to either get me there or whether I'm coming
up a little bit short. I'm enjoying the fight again.
And Dash knows how important that is, particularly when you're
Alex Demnoor. It's his competitive advantage, that and his physicality.
(30:41):
So to see that back again bumbling to the surface,
I think it's hard to underestimate how important that is.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
And I think I can kind of relate to that
the fight where I'm like, oh, I'm not sure I've
got that fight in me right now, and you actually
can't push it, like it's really hard for me to
like fabricate it, Like I know you can, like you
try your your hardest, but it just doesn't. When it
(31:10):
doesn't come naturally, that's when you get frustrated. But that's
when you get frustrated with your team or because yeah,
it is it's it kind of makes you said that
You're like, I am here competing, but it's such it's.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Not easy for me. Like the easiest thing for.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Demon is to compete because he's such a fighter. But
when it's that hard, it's like he can't enjoy much tennis.
And it kind of feels the same for me, like
I can't. I don't enjoy tennis when I.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
When I find it hard to compete.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
And I think, as you say, you can't manufacture that.
And you know, we've seen so many examples, particularly in Australia,
of athletes stepping away and taking a break and coming
back all the better for it in terms of that
any and that zest and that love for the competition
in the fight returning. So I think that's what Dash
is touching on there. Yeah, absolutely, And I think one
of the exciting things about Demon there now looking at
the numbers a little bit, is there's more upside there.
(32:10):
So when you have a look at his serving numbers,
we know he's not one of the overwhelmingly bigger, more
powerful guys or servers on tour. Not him, not his demo,
never going to be. I would argue though that given
you you know, unreturned first serve or serving a bunch
of bases is not going to be his one would
I would argue first therve percentage is an important characteristic
(32:30):
of his game because it's going to enable him, if
not to be on the front foot, not to be
on the back foot. So I would argue serving a
high percentage of first serves is a pretty important metric
for him. If we have a look in the match
against Shelton, landed fifty three percent of his first serves,
the ATP two or average is sixty three percent. Then
let's come back a little bit further against TFO landed
forty two percent. Wow, against Commasana landed forty three percent,
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and against the Village for Kinna landed fifty eight percent.
So all of those first therve percentage numbers are well
under the ATP tour average. Now he's getting by because
he's fighting, and he's scrapping and he's clawing and.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
His so and I had a quick look of like
to try mentioned that the ATP app average is average,
but yeah, go to.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
A average sixty land sixty three percent of their first
serves in play.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He's been down it. What do I say, fifty three,
forty two, forty three and fifty eight.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
His first percentage has been down, Yes, but I think
that's because he's trying to hit his serve bigger. Remember
at Ao like he was even mentioning it in the
interviews that I've hit or it was actually a United Cup,
that he was really going after his service.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
But I would argue, just sacrificing, which is the album
you were talking about, it's actually risk taking, but putting
more juice behind it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It might not be as accurate, but it might have
a better outcome if you do manage to get in
the box.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Maybe or yeah, I'm saying I think a little bit
more safety, a little bit more margin, and a healthier
number from a first serve and play perspective. Takes some
heat off on his second serve, and we know what
he's doing on return. He's the second best returner on
tour behind only one player Donix Oh, I've got a
second best return on tour, So we know what he's
doing on the return game, we know how how lethally
(34:16):
is there. If he can find another five or ten
percent of efficiency in his service game, I think that's
only upside heading to New York.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I have no numbers to back this up, but watching
him in my favorite kind of something, he charged the
net so much more it felt it felt not serving
and volleying, but finished so many points at the net.
And I know he's always he's always follied well, but
this seemed he seemed to be coming to net brand. Yeah, yeah,
and it was great. I had a lot of success
(34:43):
with that, and you know, quicker courts you can take
advantage of that, but it was, it was It was
phenomenal all court tennis.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
I really like, which sometimes goes hand in glove with mentality,
when you're enjoying the fight, when you're prepared to bring
your best and the big moment arrives. You know, sometimes
that I think it's impossible to deny the link between
mentality and tactically the options that you're choosing in big moments.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Do you think surely they've spoken with the team about
his serve percentages.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Do you think he's like just being stubborn with you.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
I want to I want to hit not really biggest,
so like I still want to go after the my first.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Fascinating to be a fly on the wall, you know.
And when we're when we're dealing more through Matt Reid,
who does some weeks with him. When we're dealing with
the team, it's more about looking at the next opponent. Yeah,
I want to expect and what do they bringing to
the table and how can we nullify that or take
away some of the strengths that they bring to the table.
But I'm sure those conversations are going on for sure,
and it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's like stubbornness or.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Yeah, you get fixated that I need I need to get.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
More free points. Yeah, and I'm not deviating right.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, thank you for that insight. That was pretty incredible
before we head off to Cincinnati. Should we wrap up
all things Canadian open? Obviously we've still got some things
to reveal them. But first questions. First, how has on
the men's side, the absence of the likes of Cinner,
al Karaz, Djokovic kind of impacted that side of the draw.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's created heaps of opportunities for other players that are
still there and thereabouts, but it's there. Suddenly Zverev and
Fritz become the favorites, whereas previously it would always be
Sinner or al Karaz, and maybe you'd expect fritzin Verev
to get into the quarters all the semis and it
hasn't hurt either. And then that comes with an extra
pressurez veras the top seed Fritz Fritz is the second seed,
(36:29):
so and they're playing up to their seatings. They're both
in the semi finals and playing well. So I think
it's really cool to see kind of a bit of
a preview of who will challenge Sinner and al Kazan too,
and Djokovic as well at the Slams, because they are
the three leading players at the Slams and it might
just be that little kick of confidence they need going
(36:49):
into a Slam if a Master's titles under their belt,
versus having made this quarters or semis of a Masters
but once again played to their seedings. The big mo yeah,
the big my momentum. Also interesting to see Hashana into
the always they're so consistent, speaking of stub tennis plays,
but like such a quality player and so consistent. Yeah,
(37:10):
so yeah, I just think that opportunity that opens up.
Shelton's another one too, wants to be firing, particularly this
time of year North American hard courts. This is where
like this is his time go into that time Slam
and he was he was great against Demon all yeah,
all his weapons kind of came together. So yeah, it's
just really it's cool to see the rest of the
alcorzm seem to take up so much of the conversation
(37:32):
because they're the leading players at the majors. Yes, and
it's really cool to see the rest of the quality
that might not get the same spotlight in weeks like this.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, definitely dash takeaways from the Montreal w TA.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Honestly, I do find it high too and disappointing. The
two week events. It's so annoying to check the scores
and the first like score I check is like a
double result and I'm like, wow, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
There hasn't even been any singles two matches.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yeah, and today it was like on the one match
done and I was like so excited to check the score.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
So it feels like forever.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
So I feel like the matches that I was excited
about we're like a month ago.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, that is something that we get as Australians. That
is a habit. I mean you're probably in it too.
I wake up, have coffee, check the app and you
see the scores that have happened overnight. We've been asleep,
but there haven't been overnight. There is basically a night
time tournament in singles now.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, yeah, well, quick predictions. Who's going to win the
men's and women's.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Maybe maybe Osaka okay, and the men go on, say, catching.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Up, catching up, Fritz, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Going to win it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know about
the women's exactly, And she's great and lots can happen.
Naomi is the credentialed one. But I mean, like home, fine, ah,
there's just the women's is really hard to be thick.
That was me saying nothing.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yea fair enough, well said of nothingness. Do you who's went?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Mine's just hanging by a thread at the moment sort
of as we speak, I would still say he's very
I think he might take the title, but he's going
to be lucky to make it to the final the
way he's in an absolute arm wrestle with hashion of
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Right, very good, All right, i'm's going to take a
stab Towson and Shelton. I'm going to back your girl
even if you want.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well we're.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Going along the same tournament.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
We've got plenty of talk about.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
After the break, we're going to have quick little break
here coming up more with us here at the tennis
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Speaker 3 (39:39):
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Speaker 1 (39:41):
And of course the best part of it this week
and every week, Ace of the Week scene a SEC.
All right, welcome back to more of the tennis. Some
big news down under in the TV world. Now our
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for the best and most popular and amazing efforts in
TV Friends plural of the podcast. Jolana Dockitch and Todd
(40:06):
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I see Todd all yeah, we barely see the buses
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was inspiring, and she also shouted out to Todd for
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television mental for her. That's your post career. So that
was really lovely.
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hopefully before they hit the piss.
Speaker 4 (41:12):
Who won the low good together?
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A joking.
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The said, GM, what did they say?
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Okay, very very well, said no, great speech and well
done to the both of them. Gotta love the logan's
gotta love bit of tennis. Okay, well, let's jump ahead
to my favorite thing of every week. Ace of the week,
who wants to go first, the black pen decided Razor.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
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Speaker 3 (42:42):
I think that's one of my favorites so far.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, that is so much more basic than that I
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it was more about because definitely Brie and I share
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(43:04):
if you got left over terrmsalada dip. How to use it?
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Speaker 2 (43:12):
I love it, say, but not with hot past but
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But yeah, so and Breeze often sharing this me, so
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It was great and got a big batch out of it.
And the reason it came into my head as I
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Speaker 3 (43:58):
Very good. All right, Dash, what's your Ace of the week.
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Speaker 8 (44:24):
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well she didn't build it, but started in South Yarra.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
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Speaker 3 (44:35):
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Yeah?
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Speaker 3 (44:51):
Well that is a good one, yes, so yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
It would be good for check it out.
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And in the heart of Melbourne, right, yes, yeah, that's
really cool.
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was thinking long and hard about how to appropriately celebrate
something quite meaningful and large, and I thought Ace of
the week on the podcast would be the perfect way.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
This week, according to my records, only a couple of
days ago, we are celebrating ten years at Tennis Australia
of Jonathan Hoove.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Ohs whoo. He has been here for a full decade.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
So for those at home long time listeners, John was
the host of the AO Show and for a time
the Tennis He's now our senior producer for all podcasts.
He's got new ones that are coming up. He's done
everything from helping out with the Layton Hewitt documentary. He's
traveled to Darwin for the NITC Carnival. He's been to
Brisbane and Perth and around the world. He's been our
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man on the ground in Wimbledon. He's done a lot.
He's done it all and there's more to come. So
I just wanted to take my as of the week
to congratulate Johnses and we start at the same time.
Well I started a little late, so keep feel free
to congratulate me in a couple of weeks.
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Have a world on John.
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You're a crucial member of the team and we're thrilled
to have you. That is it for the tennis for
another week. We wholeheartedly wish all the best for Bree.
Hope she gets better soon so she can be back
on the MARC. But I've got to say, as far
as fillings go, you three fantastic.
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Thank you very much. That was good. Heaps that you
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Hello, and welcome to the Tennis oh Canada, surprises Glory
in Montreal and Toronto, a rise Queen Victoria, the Canadian
teen turning heads at her home event, and Novak's US
Open gamble. Djokovic rolls the dice on a shot at
a twenty fifth major title. That's all have more with me.
Zag muhlback alongside me today from the sit down. Matt
(00:25):
Trelope across the table.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome, Yeah, thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's really good to have you filling in for young
Bree who's at home with tonsils the size of tennis balls.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, very sorry for Bree, but hopefully yeah, doing the
right thing looking after it.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Keeps at home.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Rest up and I'm sure I'll make some in appropriate
comments throughout this show that she will enjoy.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Hope laughter, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And next to me is the one and only star
of the Court and Queen of TikTok Stario Sevil. Welcome
back to the show on a different side of the desk. You,
I know, I like having you there.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Let's not talk.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Why no, no, no, we won't go into that.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Yeah that's fine, but now you've brought it up, and
now everyone at home are in their car, is thinking
why is she sitting there?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Purely she liked the look of the glass.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
There was a green glass of water on that side
of the table and she went, oh, that'll do. But
that's why we're here. And across the way next to
Matt the man with the sharpest mind in tennis, it
is Simon Raiser Ray.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Welcome back back, Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Good, it's thrilling to have you here at all times.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Your computer with stats.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Yeah, I can attest it is on and it's looking
very fascinating.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Analyticsy yeah, mate will vouch for.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
That, yes, so can you well? Stick with you Raiser.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
What's a quick highlight from your time at Wimbledon with
the Aussie brigade Now you're back on home to.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
Probably the highlight for me is I was seeing Tylier
Gibson qualify at Wimbledon and come back and what was
a phenomenal match to watch. And there's something about the
romance of the qualifying at Wimbledon. Being out at Roehampton
and found herself in this this this fantastic tussle against
Solana Sierra, who I really rate, I rates here quite highly.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Thinks she made fourth round.
Speaker 6 (01:58):
There, yeah, and save match points and kept at it
and just kept persevering. It was one of those moments
where you're able to witness reward for effort, incredible reward
for effort in real time and not just in that match,
but over an extended period of time and kind of
cantid myself lucky to be able to witness what it
meant to her and Cody, your coach, and the Australian
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team on the sidelines there.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
So that would have been my highlight seeing tari a
qualified for woman.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Absolutely great highlight.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Now that you're visiting us from the sit Down, How
Sister podcast, which is.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Very time invited to sit down.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
You and Luke.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Oh, you are a guest of the sit Down Dasher,
that's okay, you can.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Go back and find.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Moment. I'm like, no for bones, but you don't remember
you were on it, But that's fine. It was a
great show. I enjoyed her.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I kind of thought that's more than it was the
same thing.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
But our podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Because it was you know, you are right dash this album.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
We're more welcome here.
Speaker 8 (03:05):
I feel like is that I've come back here a
few times, so Matt, it is on you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
It wasn't me because I was sick that day and
I did it remotely and it was in studio. Yeah,
but that is something we are doing. We've been doing
it for about eighteen months now.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, because it was the Monday episode essentially of this podcast. Yes,
but then we broke them apart to give them their
own runway.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
And so you mentioned that you did an interview with
Dasher and your lovely husband Luke.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, and we had another on today. Just this morning,
Vive and I chatted to Caspa and Christian Root, which
was great. They were in Cincinnati at their hotel. They
were about to start. I mean, Casper, I think is through.
He'll get a buye through to the second round, but
he was just at since he preparing. So yeah, we
got a chance to chat to both of them.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Yeah, unique.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Was there anything juicy in there that maybe people would
be quite interested?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
There were some really interesting things in there. Casper talked
a lot about that US Open run where he got
to if he beaten Olkhaz in the final, he would
have been world number one, and so that was kind
of interesting hearing his thoughts. Only a minor, just a
little bit to play for but Yeah, that was really
cool and obviously three years on yeah, just yeah, he
refers back to that and with the US open about
to start, that's kind of cool that that is kind
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of top of mind again.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah, so when's that going to be out in people
being excellent? Well, gang, can we make sure we've got
a link to that episode in the description or at
least to the podcast. People can subscribe and get ready
for Monday.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
And get a link with my definitely.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Another link in Yes, going back to Dasher and sit down.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I just want to make sure.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
What did I say?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
No, it's there.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Definitely excellent. We love Dash your back as well. You
enjoying being home very much. So yeah, but what's next
to you?
Speaker 8 (04:48):
I am going to New York just yea, never touched
the ground. Yeah, I am going to play us so.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
That's exciting, which is nice. Yeah, taking the ball and
chain slash coach.
Speaker 8 (04:59):
Well, actually Luc is helping out James McKay, so that's
his focus. So I'll be on my own now. But
Tennis Australia always looks after us and they definitely got
my back.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Great, all right, well, good luck to you. It's going
to be a blast over there.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Pratty is there.
Speaker 8 (05:20):
She we're actually doing like a little camp in Orlando,
which was organized again by.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Tennis Australia.
Speaker 8 (05:30):
Because there's no tournaments to play the week before qualifying
unless you're in second week of Cincinnati and so makes
it a little bit hard. And I'm coming there early
to join the girls in Orlando and then yeah, Pratty
is kind of the coach. We also have a team
(05:52):
of a trainer, fitness trainer, Matt Hayes and Alan here's
the physia. So we're very lucky.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
You sound very well equipped. Look out New York.
Speaker 8 (06:05):
At USDA as well, So that was nice of them
to let us let us train there.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
We're all friends in the tennis game behind the scene,
Grandslin family, that's just so close knit.
Speaker 8 (06:17):
All the Europeans and Americans that come like, well, anyone
who comes here early are welcome.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, absolutely, give me the warm and fuzzies.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Well, Dash, we'll stick with you and jump right into
what's caught your eye, so Dash Well Queen.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
Victoria, Yeah, she's been absolutely killing it. She's in the finals.
You just mentioned. It's like, yeah, she's got she's having
the undress good moment. Yeah, Yeah, it's so true. But
it all started with her going and grinding in Europe
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in January, which would have been very miserable, very cold.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And I've played.
Speaker 8 (07:03):
Those tournaments in France where you're kind of in the
bubble and it's freezing. We complained that NCC is cold, but.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
It's yeah, Europe, it's freezing.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
So she won four thirty kight tournaments back to back.
Then she won another sixty thousand later on in March
in Portugal, I think, and that's when she started getting
into the Masters one thousands and yeah, it's incredible that
(07:38):
now she's in the final.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, and taking down Coco.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yes, sorry, why did we all just look at you?
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Exactly what happened?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
That was?
Speaker 3 (07:46):
So that was a big story.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Well, I guess the biggest story is that she's beaten.
She's beaten, saved match point to beat, rebarking her to
make the fun of it. But her journey along the way, Yes,
she beat Coca. That was the first time I saw
in Boco play against golf in Miami when she got
into the main drawer there, and I think she pushed her.
Was at Rome. I thought it was Miami, but anyway,
three sets she took I got a three sets somewhere
(08:09):
at one of the Masters before the French Open, and
Coco said, she's definitely one to watch. She pushed me
really really hard. And just the fact that she's coming
along in such leaps and bounds so quickly. I think
her live ranking is around thirty in the world or
something so like that.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
She's on the track crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, and that's what was she when you said she
was in those you know, bubble tournaments in Europe, she
was outside the top three hundred, three hundred.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yes, started at three three three.
Speaker 8 (08:33):
Yeah, her rise is I'm also impressed that I think
she would have been a little bit felt a bit
bit of a lad down with Wembledon. She lost in
the final round against Priscilla Horn, which were proud of
Priscilla qualified, but Priscilla saved a few match points there.
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So pretty cool that she was able to back and
perform like that at home.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
I think Ash makes a great point too, when you
go back to, you know, the European lower level events.
It's a long way from the Australian Open and Melbourne
in January. And I've always felt like one of the
toughest things to do in our sport is to win
a title back up the next week and go deep again,
let alone doing that four weeks in a row. I
think that's a real marker along the way that if
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you can do that, it's so often you see and
dashil Vouchl this you'll see a player win one week
and exit early the following week because the rigors of
the sport are fatigue or there's fatigue, there's travel normally,
and then there's the next hungry opponent waiting to kind
of claim your scalp the next week. So I think
it really speaks for development when you're able to put
repeat quality performances together, or perhaps it's not how well
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you can play, but how poorly you can play, and
when your lower level is improving and enabling you to
go back to back to back to back deep at
events like dash is described in January. I think it's
a really key milestone along the way to good ahead.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Well, not to mention, you're freezing your ass off in
Europe and every time you look at tennis Instagram, everyone's
Australian summer.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, yeah, you're like, what am I doing? But it's
but it's kind of cool as well. You kind of
develop a little bit or get that confidence kind of
off the radar. You kind of probably slipping under the radar,
and that is keen to accumulate that momentum because all
sides and so you can. It's kind of like your
almost long term plotting her later time.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, well let's have a quick little jump into the
time machine. Raisoray, you had a few thoughts on and
Boco earlier in the year. I think we got a
little clip from an episode of the Tennis and feb.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Victoria and Boco.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
There's another I think young player on the right. So
I watched her play Palabidosa out there in Miami right now.
She doesn't hold back on the ball. Just put a
little asterisk next to her game. Okay, she's got some
power and some weapons off both wings. She came within
a point or two of knocking off Palabadosa. We've spoken
about a Yaala a little bit already. We've spoken about Fonsaka,
So just adding Victoria and Boco was one to keep.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Okay, first question, First, next week's album numbers are come
on hit me well, very good prediction, very.
Speaker 8 (11:05):
Good for ya.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
I just wish everything you have.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You have reasons for your ideas and thoughts, talk us
through it well.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
I wish every prediction aged as well as that one has. Look,
I think you know, Dash has made a great point
about the ability to string repeat victories together at the
lower rings of the game. And then you watched her player,
or watched her play in Miami, and the weapons leapt
off the court at you. Literally in terms of the
heat she brings not just on first but on second serve.
Her both serves are a legitimate weapon for her. She's
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got a great team around her. Natalie took Tausier and
the Tennis Canada Federation of supporting her really strongly. I
just felt like there's a physicality about her that's so impressive.
It just felt like a player that to me, wasn't
going to miss. And sure enough, what are we three
or four five months down the track, and she's on
the verge of being seated at Grand Slam time, so she.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Will be in. You're a helper now. She probably came
nothing to defend.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And even if she doesn't quite get it there through Canada,
all it would take is a couple of wins in
Cincinnati if she can do that, and it would confirm it.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
But yeah, definitely.
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Probably she would have been in qualities in Cincinnati. I
don't know what happens there if she gets should be
getting a special exam, I yeah, she should know the rules.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, that's right out the station, she'll see.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Well, I mean looking at Canadian women's tennis, like Eugenie's
just retired, but is this now a second era, another
coming of the Canadians.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
They've had an amazing run in the last ten years.
I mean, I think and Boco even talked about when
Eugenie retired that she was a place she looked up
to and kind of was you know, Eugenie was that
first Canadian female play for years to do something huge
on the international stage. That it was just over ten
years ago, and so yeah, Boco would have been what
eight seven or eight, so she would have been, you know,
(12:51):
probably just starting her tennis journey and watching that, and
she did say that was inspiring to her. And then
since then there's been obviously andre Escu, Fernandez and now
in Bo. Every couple of years there's a Canadian that
comes up and establishes themselves. They've got a great pipeline.
So yeah, that's really cool.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Yeah, all right, Well Matt, I'm gonna stick with you
like amazing effort from a boco. Congratulations. So Matt in Montreal,
what's caught your eye?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Tagus withraw, Yes, it's the other side of the draw.
It's Clara Towson. So she's always been on a lot
of our radar, particularly here because she was a junior
champion at the AA and she beat Fernandez in the
final in twenty nineteen. But she and then I remember
she beat in that COVID French Open that got moved.
She beat Jennifer Brady in the first round just after
Brady had made the US Open semis, and that was
(13:37):
a huge win. She was only seventeen, but then you
know COVID, she had lots of injuries and kind of
went off the raidar. But she was always We always
knew how good she could be, and so she has
since gotten through to the semis of the Canadian Open.
She's beaten igersh Fiontec and Madison Keys back to back,
which is incredible. They're both Rady major champions. That's huge.
She also beat Sablenka earlier in the years. She also
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beat Rebiken her at Wimbledon. Like she's had these huge huge,
big name, notable wins, and I just think, yeah, I
never forget a conversation I had with Nicole Pratt two
years ago at the French Open, and I was talking
to her about something else, and she talked about being
on the practice courts and kind of I can't remember
who she was working with at the time or who
(14:20):
she was looking at, but Andreva caught her eye. But
she also mentioned Taoson and she just said that that
ball striking blew her mind and she reckoned it was
as big as Sablenka, but like technically better and she's like,
if she can get it together and stay injury free,
watch out. And so I've never forgotten that conversation. I've
always just kind of kept an eye on Tawson, and
you know, a year or two later that is coming
(14:42):
to Fruition. We knew she could do it, and it
is all coming together.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
So she also has a good feel like she can
hit a few job shots. It might it might not
look like Roger Federer, but she knows where to hit
them and when.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
And very good on the like underrated on the defense,
like she against Chiante. Shante can really spread the cord
and move and that's always been the thing on taws
and get a moving because she's such a great ball stroker,
not the best mover, a better movie than you'd think,
like sid really improved. That would always get a racket
to balls and like loft it and it would drop
just on the baseline like she had that great feel
and she could reset points really well. So yeah, and
(15:19):
seems to be able to soak.
Speaker 8 (15:20):
Up upon it anticipate well as yeah, which is huge.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So we're still at the time of taping, we're not
we don't have an outcome yet of her semi.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Final court against Osaka now, so hopefully BBC.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yes, this is going to be you know, exactly what
she needs to get her across the line played in
a yeah, headphones, but yeah, it'll be very easy to
see an outcome. But I think everything you've said is
incredibly relevant regardless of that semi final. But looking at
she's number nineteen in the world right now live ranking
of fifteenth now I just checked. But that's massive because
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the start of the year she was fiftyev And then
this is really interesting. She won Auckland and she played
Osaka in the final, but Osaka got injured with an
ab so we never actually saw how it would have
played out, but even making the finals and then went
out with an injury. So this is kind of like,
right now, this is the rematch.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
We're getting it. It's the rematch.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And I mean, she's the number one Danish player in
the world, So is it time for her to be
kind of on the tips of people's tongues when we're
discussing the big guns of women's tennis.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I would say, so, yeah, more people should if you're
going to be beating if you've beating sh fiontech sablenkak
keys and doing it on big states, you're going to
get noticed. And she's already starting to do her best
results at slams as well, So third round Australian, third round, French,
fourth round Wimbledon. This is her best season at the majors.
So you know, when you're starting to make second weeks
of majors, you know that's when the most people are watching.
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So the US Open will be fascinating.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
And she's got fear factor and I think again Dash
makes a great point because she's able to compliment that
we spoke about weapons before with them Boco, and this
woman's got serious weapons again on his first serve, on
second serve off the grounds. Very few players on tour
that are doing more damage on the bald and towson,
and she's able to compliment some of those those weapons
that she's got in her arsenal with some of the
softer skills, which is so important and such a great
(17:10):
skill to have when you're backing your opponent up off
the baseline and you're bringing that fear factor to the
court and then you're able to identify and execute into
the space with some of the more nuanced.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Or some of the finest and then busting out some
of that incredible accuracy that you're talking about.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
That is a pretty powerful game.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, and Matt makes a great point as well. You know,
I think the way you start the season, so you're
fifty at the year end rankings, fifty in the world
at the year end rankings last year, you come out
and you go deep in Auckland where you claim the
title in Auckland, you jump on a plane after the
austral Oup and you go to Lens you make the
semi finals, and then in the Middle East and Swing
you make the final and Dubai and lose to.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Thee which is where she beats all.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
There's momentum, right, and all of a sudden you've gone
from fifty too. I can checked the week by week rankings,
but you find yourself probably around mid thirties in the
world and maybe nearly seated for the French at that
point in time. And there's your momentum, and she's built
further on that as the years progressed.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Big Mo got to have that call back to the West.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
No one, it's to fact check me, but pretty sure,
let's just go the is the coach too now, since
like the beginning of the year, maybe even last.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Year, love all.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Just came to me like a voice from on high.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
No, very good.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
All right, well, Raiser, we've spoken about Clara and the
match he's currently playing at the.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Time of recording.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
But her opponent, Namo Osaka, apparently she's caught your eye
and her form.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Take us through the numbers.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Yeah, I've just been really taken by you know, the numbers,
but as well the emotional story here or the change
in coach. So the splitting with Marata Glue post Wimbledon
and then doesn't hesitate. There was no messing around there
to pick up wi Darowski, so Igerschwiontek's previous coach, and
these are the I think, the fine margins that we
so often see in elite sports. So she finds herself
(18:58):
against earlier maybe second round in Montreal, against Lude Miller Samsonova,
who they were two and two coming in. And in fact,
I've watched a match they played in Berlin on the
grass just a couple of months ago, where sam Sonova
prevailed over Osaka in a tight battle. So this is,
you know, fine margins. Not much in this contest. She
finds a way past her three and the third, and
(19:20):
since then she started to steamroll. She's gathered moment and
it's that momentum word again. She's gone past Osta Pinko
two and four, she's given up one game over Sebastova,
and she's beaten Fitzelina two and two. I mean, those
are that's one way traffic and as signs there that
she's back to her best. And I was having a
look at the data and I was probably surprised, and
(19:40):
Dash perhaps would have been less surprised than I was.
The player on serve that is number one on tour
in terms of first serve points one is Naomi Osaka
over the last fifty two weeks.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
So when she lands her first serve in play, nobody
wins more points in behind that first serve than Naomi Osaka.
I would have had Sabolenka up there, head golf up there, Yeah,
keys up there. You know those are the players that
probably jump off the page. I was surprised to see that.
Is she gettable at times on the second serve? Yes,
the second serve doesn't pack the same punch as say
Clara Towson, So I'm interested as to how that.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Means that a thing like just just wanting to get
it across and in the correct box, Like what's.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I think it's more, you know, it's a it's a
technical thing and a technical thing. Towson's prepared to maybe
serve some double faults on second serve and at the
same time she's looking for free points. You know, she's
bringing the fear factor or the threat on her second
serve as well. Naomi's prepared to be a little bit
more conservative on a second serve and back of groundstrokes.
So that was one thing that jumped off the page.
I mean number one on tour for first serve points
one which means on the spot, and you'll just be like,
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you're going to need some creative editing.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Let me come back to you.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Well, so, Simon, are we looking at basically the best
version of Osaka once again?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Well, I think it's pretty close to it.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah, I think all of a sudden, you know, I
don't think and when you track back over time, this
is the first time since twenty twenty two she's going
to find herself in the semis more better of a
one thousand level event and actually think her momentum has
been building. It hasn't been disastrous. It still takes a
hell of an effort to beat this woman, and these
are the fine margins, right, So this is where I'm
looking at that sam Sonova contest in Montreal and I'm going, well,
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maybe that's the moment. Maybe that's the time when the
pendulum swung the other way, and she's going to build
on that. She finds herself in the semi final right
now as we sit here, and who knows what the
ceiling is This week springboards into Cincinnati, springboards into the
US Open, where we know she's played great before, and
all of a sudden, it's a different conversation again.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
So that's the way I'm looking at it.
Speaker 8 (21:42):
Yeah, and speaking, I was definitely thinking of US help
because in mine of her interviews she's like, well, I
might be a seed for the US Sulton.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Now, well, she was kind of putting a few things
out even this morning or yesterday about her outfit choices
for the US. She's like, keep your eyes peeled ready
for every facet of the next big step in the
grand same.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
I heard that interview too, she said she's talked about
tracking her seating for US opener that outfit it crushes
it or something like that. She said, that effect on
my outfit's lip or something like that.
Speaker 8 (22:14):
Yeah, a few seated players would be happy that Naomis
finally is seid because she's actually had like really tough
first round drawers since her comeback.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
All right, Well, thank you very much for your insights, Raiser,
any chance you found that.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Seventy four percent second second on tour? This is going
right through Rebikner, who you mentioned. I think mattch she's
just behind at seventy three, Okay, and some of the
other suspects, the likes of Cocoa Golf she's at seventy.
Badosa's at nearly seventy. Chin Win Jing's up there at
nearly seventy. So she's just got that little marginal that
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leedge on the rest of the field.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Very good.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
So Powerball next week is seventy. That's what I've heard
from your predictions. Crat All Right, well what caught my
h Let me tell you. Novak Djokovic, Yeah, the goat.
So he's withdrawn from Cincinnati for the second straight year,
which means he So he pulled out for a non
medical reason, and it's fine, he has his reasons. I'm
sure he's going to go into the US Open without
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any hardcourt match play. So he's last match, that's okay.
But I don't think he's got you know, a company,
a governing body supporting him.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Florida more matches than I have this year, though.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
But his last match was playing center at Wimbledon on
the turf. So it just you know, as a lay
tennis fan, like, I'm not the big brains at the
table that I have around me, but it's kind of bonkers.
So how is he going to pull this off? I
want a data approach, I want an insight and insider
approach and a player approach.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
You start dash it because it's the same, it's the
same lead off as you.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Well, mine is also fundical reason.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Is it too long to go without playing matches? Well pla, I.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Would say so honestly, yes, I I was actually hoping
to play an event before, but I've changed my mind
a million times of where I was at with my
mental health, and then it was kind of I've decided
that I want to go to US Open. It's because
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I feel like I have a bit of fomorph and
I am excited like it's it is a Grand Slam,
So I don't I feel like it would be let
down and I would then sit here at home in
Melbourne and feel like, oh I should have gone. So
I don't want to have any regrets. But I think
Novak has mentioned that he wants to shorten his season,
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like he wants to play less, and I mean Serena
did that. If you tell times and people like players
do it after Wembledon, We're sorry after French Open, where
they maybe don't play any warm up events before Wembledon,
but not not before yourself.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And he's kind of he's got some big things on
the line.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So is he resting up because he wants to be
as ready as he can because he wants that twenty fish.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
I think he actually wants to try it this way.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Maybe, yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
Think that's right, And I think it's hard to knock,
you know, the change and approach from the perspective of
you're looking at an athlete that's prepared to do whatever
he can to give himself the ultimate chance at claiming
one more one title, one more grand.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
So it will be record break.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
And I think it's the equation energy in versus energy out.
I think it's as simple as that. And the energy
in that Dash is describing is normally time on match court, victories,
under the belt, momentum progress, confidence which has earned through action.
Confidence is not something you can't go to the supermarket
and buy confidence off the shelf to work and get going.
So I think it's to be applauded that he's trying
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something different again. He's prepared to go in there, maybe
slightly underdone from a physical perspective because he's thinking, I
need every ounce of energy available at the back end
of that fortnight. We know it's hot in humid there
in New York. We know it's a physical test over
five sets. He's just going to go in there fresh,
and he's going to back himself to find a way,
perhaps through some difficult moments in the opening week, and
back himself to get there with a little bit more
(26:23):
in the tank, deep in the event against the likes
of center in Ol Chorist.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
And I mean, and I think this in my mind,
whenever a player attacks, you know, a period, they're not
sitting by the pool, wolf and down club sandwiches exactly
like they're still on the court every day. They're just
not competing at that level.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
So Blanka did mention in the interview she had one
week off where she only did like a stair workout
in her she said, flip flos.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, hey got her to where she is.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
There, you go, put your flip flips on, get on
the StairMaster head or some place.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Do what they know. I agree with you, Simon, they
do what they know works for them. Djokovic is a
bit like Serena in that he can come in to
slams and kind of hit the ground running or even
use those first couple of rounds too fine a bit
of form. He'll also be super I would imagine targeted
and specific about what he does on the practice court
in terms of like practice sets, getting ready, Like this
(27:15):
is not his first slam. He knows because he said
at Wimbledon that he needs you know, he looked an
injury or that kind of wear and tear on his
body at this age affects him deep in Grand slams.
In five set seen which we've seen.
Speaker 8 (27:28):
And if we think about it, six weeks off is
not that much. And that's not six weeks off like
what we're saying a week off where he actually just
put his fit up and didn't do much, but then
you build back, it's not that big of.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, he's essentially kind of revving his engine up ready
to hit the I.
Speaker 8 (27:48):
Feel like he's done it before where he hasn't played
that many matches and then came in fresh and that
was because he was healing an injury and then won
a Grand Slam.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
I like it status quo. It's a different approach.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
He's earned the right more than any other player in
men's tennis anyway.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I like it Trump. I genuinely think twenty five is
within reach.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
That's pretty It's the slam that it is the most
historically it's been the most open. It's less hoarded by
one or two players, Like there's a bigger range of
champions in the US Open.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
It's interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Yeah, I'm so good, yes.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Because it Will's fright and Jokovic is not going to
be fried because he's played so he's poor, but just
comparatively less matches, but not no matches. I mean he's
gone deep at every slam he's got. There's plenty of
matches in the tank, but he hasn't pounded his body
and played like fifty. Yeah, so it could, it could.
This could be work great tying to rip up the
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record books.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
All right, let's do a little bit of a gear
shift from the joker to a demon. Simon, talk me
through little Alex demon ll I say little. He's probably
tall than me. He's just extually very He's just he's
little Alex.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
And then he's like, you know, what do you want
on the shit? All right?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So quarterfinals at Toron tack, Yeah, give us some form analysis.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I've missed that demon. All well.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
I think before you look at any of the numbers,
I think one of the things that's or the thing
that's jumping off the page in terms of impressing me
so much. Over the last month or so post Wimbledon
has just been this refreshed mental approach and the energy,
the zest for the contest. He's up for the fight again.
So we saw a demon in Paris if we tracked
back to May that it wasn't the typical demon.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Just watching him rare surprised, watching him play against public.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
There was frustration towards the team, and you heard him
give voice to that afterwards. I haven't felt like myself
that the grinds getting me down even into the grass
court swing. Lost earlier I think in Queens, didn't play
the typical grass court schedule, went into Wimbledon underdone by
his own admission, again kind of just on the fence.
It felt like as to where his head was at Wimbledon,
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which is, you know, the hallowed grounds and has for him,
he holds it in such highesteam So to see him
in Washington and see some of the feats match point
down against the Vidovich Fakina in the final, and he
gave voice to it postmatch, Just that desperation, that ability
to scratch and color and find a way out of
some nearly impossible situations, and more importantly than all of that,
(30:20):
to reflect on the match or the week post event
and say, I'm loving the battle again. I'm engaged in this,
I'm bringing my best tennis. I'm okay with whether that's
going to either get me there or whether I'm coming
up a little bit short. I'm enjoying the fight again.
And Dash knows how important that is, particularly when you're
Alex Demnoor. It's his competitive advantage, that and his physicality.
(30:41):
So to see that back again bumbling to the surface,
I think it's hard to underestimate how important that is.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
And I think I can kind of relate to that
the fight where I'm like, oh, I'm not sure I've
got that fight in me right now, and you actually
can't push it, like it's really hard for me to
like fabricate it, Like I know you can, like you
try your your hardest, but it just doesn't. When it
(31:10):
doesn't come naturally, that's when you get frustrated. But that's
when you get frustrated with your team or because yeah,
it is it's it kind of makes you said that
You're like, I am here competing, but it's such it's.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Not easy for me. Like the easiest thing for.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Demon is to compete because he's such a fighter. But
when it's that hard, it's like he can't enjoy much tennis.
And it kind of feels the same for me, like
I can't. I don't enjoy tennis when I.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
When I find it hard to compete.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
And I think, as you say, you can't manufacture that.
And you know, we've seen so many examples, particularly in Australia,
of athletes stepping away and taking a break and coming
back all the better for it in terms of that
any and that zest and that love for the competition
in the fight returning. So I think that's what Dash
is touching on there. Yeah, absolutely, And I think one
of the exciting things about Demon there now looking at
the numbers a little bit, is there's more upside there.
(32:10):
So when you have a look at his serving numbers,
we know he's not one of the overwhelmingly bigger, more
powerful guys or servers on tour. Not him, not his demo,
never going to be. I would argue though that given
you you know, unreturned first serve or serving a bunch
of bases is not going to be his one would
I would argue first therve percentage is an important characteristic
(32:30):
of his game because it's going to enable him, if
not to be on the front foot, not to be
on the back foot. So I would argue serving a
high percentage of first serves is a pretty important metric
for him. If we have a look in the match
against Shelton, landed fifty three percent of his first serves,
the ATP two or average is sixty three percent. Then
let's come back a little bit further against TFO landed
forty two percent. Wow, against Commasana landed forty three percent,
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and against the Village for Kinna landed fifty eight percent.
So all of those first therve percentage numbers are well
under the ATP tour average. Now he's getting by because
he's fighting, and he's scrapping and he's clawing and.
Speaker 8 (33:05):
His so and I had a quick look of like
to try mentioned that the ATP app average is average,
but yeah, go to.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
A average sixty land sixty three percent of their first
serves in play.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
He's been down it. What do I say, fifty three,
forty two, forty three and fifty eight.
Speaker 8 (33:25):
His first percentage has been down, Yes, but I think
that's because he's trying to hit his serve bigger. Remember
at Ao like he was even mentioning it in the
interviews that I've hit or it was actually a United Cup,
that he was really going after his service.
Speaker 9 (33:42):
But I would argue, just sacrificing, which is the album
you were talking about, it's actually risk taking, but putting
more juice behind it.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
It might not be as accurate, but it might have
a better outcome if you do manage to get in
the box.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Maybe or yeah, I'm saying I think a little bit
more safety, a little bit more margin, and a healthier
number from a first serve and play perspective. Takes some
heat off on his second serve, and we know what
he's doing on return. He's the second best returner on
tour behind only one player Donix Oh, I've got a
second best return on tour, So we know what he's
doing on the return game, we know how how lethally
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is there. If he can find another five or ten
percent of efficiency in his service game, I think that's
only upside heading to New York.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I have no numbers to back this up, but watching
him in my favorite kind of something, he charged the
net so much more it felt it felt not serving
and volleying, but finished so many points at the net.
And I know he's always he's always follied well, but
this seemed he seemed to be coming to net brand. Yeah, yeah,
and it was great. I had a lot of success
(34:43):
with that, and you know, quicker courts you can take
advantage of that, but it was, it was It was
phenomenal all court tennis.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
I really like, which sometimes goes hand in glove with mentality,
when you're enjoying the fight, when you're prepared to bring
your best and the big moment arrives. You know, sometimes
that I think it's impossible to deny the link between
mentality and tactically the options that you're choosing in big moments.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
Do you think surely they've spoken with the team about
his serve percentages.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Do you think he's like just being stubborn with you.
Speaker 8 (35:10):
I want to I want to hit not really biggest,
so like I still want to go after the my first.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Fascinating to be a fly on the wall, you know.
And when we're when we're dealing more through Matt Reid,
who does some weeks with him. When we're dealing with
the team, it's more about looking at the next opponent. Yeah,
I want to expect and what do they bringing to
the table and how can we nullify that or take
away some of the strengths that they bring to the table.
But I'm sure those conversations are going on for sure,
and it'll be interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It's like stubbornness or.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Yeah, you get fixated that I need I need to get.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
More free points. Yeah, and I'm not deviating right.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, thank you for that insight. That was pretty incredible
before we head off to Cincinnati. Should we wrap up
all things Canadian open? Obviously we've still got some things
to reveal them. But first questions. First, how has on
the men's side, the absence of the likes of Cinner,
al Karaz, Djokovic kind of impacted that side of the draw.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's created heaps of opportunities for other players that are
still there and thereabouts, but it's there. Suddenly Zverev and
Fritz become the favorites, whereas previously it would always be
Sinner or al Karaz, and maybe you'd expect fritzin Verev
to get into the quarters all the semis and it
hasn't hurt either. And then that comes with an extra
pressurez veras the top seed Fritz Fritz is the second seed,
(36:29):
so and they're playing up to their seatings. They're both
in the semi finals and playing well. So I think
it's really cool to see kind of a bit of
a preview of who will challenge Sinner and al Kazan too,
and Djokovic as well at the Slams, because they are
the three leading players at the Slams and it might
just be that little kick of confidence they need going
(36:49):
into a Slam if a Master's titles under their belt,
versus having made this quarters or semis of a Masters
but once again played to their seedings. The big mo yeah,
the big my momentum. Also interesting to see Hashana into
the always they're so consistent, speaking of stub tennis plays,
but like such a quality player and so consistent. Yeah,
(37:10):
so yeah, I just think that opportunity that opens up.
Shelton's another one too, wants to be firing, particularly this
time of year North American hard courts. This is where
like this is his time go into that time Slam
and he was he was great against Demon all yeah,
all his weapons kind of came together. So yeah, it's
just really it's cool to see the rest of the
alcorzm seem to take up so much of the conversation
(37:32):
because they're the leading players at the majors. Yes, and
it's really cool to see the rest of the quality
that might not get the same spotlight in weeks like this.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
Yeah, definitely dash takeaways from the Montreal w TA.
Speaker 8 (37:45):
Honestly, I do find it high too and disappointing. The
two week events. It's so annoying to check the scores
and the first like score I check is like a
double result and I'm like, wow, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
There hasn't even been any singles two matches.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
Yeah, and today it was like on the one match
done and I was like so excited to check the score.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
So it feels like forever.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
So I feel like the matches that I was excited
about we're like a month ago.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, that is something that we get as Australians. That
is a habit. I mean you're probably in it too.
I wake up, have coffee, check the app and you
see the scores that have happened overnight. We've been asleep,
but there haven't been overnight. There is basically a night
time tournament in singles now.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, yeah, well, quick predictions. Who's going to win the
men's and women's.
Speaker 8 (38:38):
Maybe maybe Osaka okay, and the men go on, say, catching.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Up, catching up, Fritz, I think it is.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Going to win it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know about
the women's exactly, And she's great and lots can happen.
Naomi is the credentialed one. But I mean, like home, fine, ah,
there's just the women's is really hard to be thick.
That was me saying nothing.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yea fair enough, well said of nothingness. Do you who's went?
Speaker 6 (39:09):
Mine's just hanging by a thread at the moment sort
of as we speak, I would still say he's very
I think he might take the title, but he's going
to be lucky to make it to the final the
way he's in an absolute arm wrestle with hashion of
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Right, very good, All right, i'm's going to take a
stab Towson and Shelton. I'm going to back your girl
even if you want.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay, Well we're.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
Going along the same tournament.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
We've got plenty of talk about.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
After the break, we're going to have quick little break
here coming up more with us here at the tennis
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Speaker 3 (39:39):
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and every week, Ace of the Week scene a SEC.
All right, welcome back to more of the tennis. Some
big news down under in the TV world. Now our
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TV Friends plural of the podcast. Jolana Dockitch and Todd
(40:06):
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was really lovely.
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hopefully before they hit the piss.
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Okay, very very well, said no, great speech and well
done to the both of them. Gotta love the logan's
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to my favorite thing of every week. Ace of the week,
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Speaker 3 (42:42):
I think that's one of my favorites so far.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, that is so much more basic than that I
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it was more about because definitely Brie and I share
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(43:04):
if you got left over terrmsalada dip. How to use it?
No trust, No, it.
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Speaker 2 (43:12):
I love it, say, but not with hot past but
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a tomato based prawn garlic pasta and you finish it
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it like a finishing pasta is already cooked and you
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I think I was thinking, like you put the term
in the microway, and and you put that it was
more like this isn't like strawberry past ye.
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But yeah, so and Breeze often sharing this me, so
I know you try that.
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I tried.
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It was great and got a big batch out of it.
And the reason it came into my head as I
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it off. It was brilliant freezing.
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Here, it is no, I ate it all. But it
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Very good. All right, Dash, what's your Ace of the week.
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Speaker 1 (44:09):
So there's a brand new flagship Mecha shop. Huge, it's
four levels and oh my god, it was crazy and.
Speaker 4 (44:19):
Joe is the she's my hero.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Yeah, like I can't.
Speaker 8 (44:24):
Believe the little mecca that she had build in South
well she didn't build it, but started in South Yarra.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Now it's global and now it's huge. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Any freebies last night?
Speaker 8 (44:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Or maybe just filling your pockets up?
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Well, I don't know if I can reveal.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, right, well, if the lost prevention officer at Mecha
Melbourne needs any advice, okay, just give your Dash his number.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Now.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Well that is a good one, yes, so yeah, it's good.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
It would be good for check it out.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
And in the heart of Melbourne, right, yes, yeah, that's
really cool.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
For Mecca. They're doing well out of.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Us and David Jones Menswear building.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yep, yeah, veil DJs.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
All right, we thank you well, thrown raiser. So I
was thinking long and hard about how to appropriately celebrate
something quite meaningful and large, and I thought Ace of
the week on the podcast would be the perfect way.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
This week, according to my records, only a couple of
days ago, we are celebrating ten years at Tennis Australia
of Jonathan Hoove.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Ohs whoo. He has been here for a full decade.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
So for those at home long time listeners, John was
the host of the AO Show and for a time
the Tennis He's now our senior producer for all podcasts.
He's got new ones that are coming up. He's done
everything from helping out with the Layton Hewitt documentary. He's
traveled to Darwin for the NITC Carnival. He's been to
Brisbane and Perth and around the world. He's been our
(45:55):
man on the ground in Wimbledon. He's done a lot.
He's done it all and there's more to come. So
I just wanted to take my as of the week
to congratulate Johnses and we start at the same time.
Well I started a little late, so keep feel free
to congratulate me in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Have a world on John.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
You're a crucial member of the team and we're thrilled
to have you. That is it for the tennis for
another week. We wholeheartedly wish all the best for Bree.
Hope she gets better soon so she can be back
on the MARC. But I've got to say, as far
as fillings go, you three fantastic.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
So thank you very much. Absolutely not the ones we wanted,
but we all do. No, no, no, that was fun.
Thank you very much. That was good. Heaps that you
can do. We've mentioned some stuff in the.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Episode notes below, so feel free to click on those
check them out. Harper and you will have some info
after the break, but we'll see you in a week.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Enjoy Tennis.
Speaker 9 (46:48):
Hey everyone, Harps and Andy here just want to remind
you that you can watch every episode of the Tennis
on our YouTube channel, Australian Open Tv.
Speaker 7 (46:54):
And we have an email as well podcast at Tennis
dot com dot au. If you've I thought the show
was amazing or you thought it was terrible, we are
keen to hear from you. We'll read it, so feedback comments,
whatever it is, Get in touch with us at our
email and we'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Catch you later.
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