July 3, 2025 • 59 mins
Time to grab your strawberries and cream! Wimbledon is underway, but more than a handful of top seeds have already fallen, including Coco Gauff, Jess Pegula, Zheng Qinwen, Alexander Zverev and Holger Rune. WTA coach Luke Saville and player Jaimee Fourlis join Brie and Matt to break down the latest news from The Championships. The panel also reacts to Pegula's comments about the perils of best-of-three-set tennis, discuss their experiences facing burnout on tour, and unpack Stefanos Tsitispas’ lacklustre 2025 season. Plus, we check in on our Fantasy Draft standings and Brie steals the spotlight with her sneaky Wimbledon-themed Top 5.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hello, and welcome to the tennis too hot to handle
seeds scorched in a brutal first week of Wimbledon. Best
of three vers best of five, we debate Pergoula's Grand
Slam claim and terminator Tom O Woo, the wounded Warrior,
wills himself to another win. That's all ahead with me,
Breeze Stewart and the co host this week has jumped
(00:27):
over from our sister podcast to sit down. We have
Matrelope filling in for Zave and we couldn't be happy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No, thank you for having me nice. I like the panel,
the panels, it's good. It's a good time in podlavor arena.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It is a good time, so welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But we also have a couple of Aussie stars Jamie Fallers,
welcome back, and you're here for your second appearance, and
you seem to be adorned in a new accessory.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I am thanks for having me back. You're excited to
be invited back. Yeah, I have the new accessory. Had
a shoulder surgery last week week, so we'll be home
for a while.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
But what a cool opportunity to come back on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, well, glad to hear that it went all good.
But it is also our gain to get to have
you on the pod a little bit. So there's a
positive there is, there's a silver lining positive.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, always happy to experience another Melbourne wah.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What a great positive that is.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And next to you we have Luke Saville, so good
to have you back. Just back from Europe a little
bit sooner than we'd hoped.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Great to be back guys, and excited yeap, obviously back
a little earlier than expected.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
But yeah, join you guys again. It's a great honor.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So I'm really excited. And you know what, next week
we also have Dasher, so that's exciting too. So with
the pair of you we get double wammy excitement, which
is really good. But let's catch up now with all
the latest news from Day three at Wimbledon. Was a
pretty big day yesterday their time, last night our time.
Some really big things happened. Let's kick off first with
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my favorite Thompson and defeating is it Bonzie?
Speaker 8 (02:01):
Yeah, Benjamin Bonzie. We weren't even sure.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The word on the.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Ground was that Tomo may not even pull up well
enough to play his second round match after the five
set heroics of the first round. Because he's carrying a
back injury, and I think has said that Wimbledon, like
he's just squeezing everything he can out of himself at
Wimbledon and then we'll take time off to get it
looked at. And this happened in the middle of the
night Melbourne time, and we woke up and found out
that he'd come back and won in five. Again, that
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is a phenomenal result. It was his best Wimbledon result.
And yeah, he was the one Aussie player in singles
last night. So just yeah, from someone that you thought
wouldn't even get through the match or might not even start,
what a heartwarming result to see him do it at
a tournament he loves so much.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, I think there's one thing in tennis you can't
sort of measure or gauge ticker and Tomo's just he
epitomizes that. And yeah, I caught up with him a
couple of days before he played, and he's struggling.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
His back's quite injo.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I think he's going to take that extended break that
you mentioned and to come out and make the third round,
and just doesn't surprise me. He's you know, he's been
playing through injury most of this year actually, and see
him the third round. I think his draw opened up
a little bit. But yeah, two five setters and just
an amazing competitor and and great to see Tomo still
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just playing so well in singles and doubles.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, And he did say I saw him interviewed by
Stan Sport and he did say it was a pretty
hard match. He didn't necessarily love it because of how
much pain he was probably in. But I think he
said something when he won, something about his tick. When
he won, he pointed to it, being like.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
He's got the yeah, he knows, he'll tell you that
he's got Yeah, he's so he's sort of renowned for
coming back from the jaws of defeat, even in juniors.
I think I had, you know, maybe match points against
him in under twelves and he got me down in Dingley.
I still remember that one vividly. But is never out
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of it, And twenty years later he is still pulling
off great comebacks and great to see that. I feel
like he's really just having a resurgence late in his
career and singles and doubles, As I mentioned, there's not
too many playing well in both, so great to see.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I'm really hoping that he's scheduled for a good
Australia time watch in his next Yeah, first time would
be great because I'd like to watch. We also had
Fritz defeat Diallo. He has played the seven of the
past eight days, four consecutive to win Eastbourne, one travel day,
three consecutive at Wimby.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Yes, that's massive, that is massive.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The reason he played three consecutive at Wimby is because
the Wimbledon curfew, And so he was into the fourth
set against Yes and Peshi Pericard and he's down five
to one in that tiebreak, so two pointson going out
in four sets, squeaked out that for set, came back
the next day, beat in Pestial Para Card and then
beat Diello in five and Diello had just won one
of the grass court lead ups, so another huge server.
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That's yeah, Fritz's has got some real speaking of hearts
and real grit doing that boat back to back five
setters against really powerful opponents who were dangerous on grass.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I think for one of the top seeds, he's probably
had the toughest draw som My Pesti Pera Card and
I think he broke the record for the fastest serve
at Winwood three.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Fritz was returning it was like pretty much on baseline.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Or like ter wow, yeah, because of the power.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, and I thought that was really I'd be.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So scared I'd just run away. Well well yeah, like
that's what is.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That in one hundred and fifty three miles? Is what
in kilometers? Like we're a metric.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Insane na.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, but he won the point.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
He won the point because yeah, he blocked it back.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's that's fine. I wonder how his elbow is.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
It's just such a good effort from Fritz and there
playing seven of eight days, winning in five sets both
matches at Wimby.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
So amazing, great ticker.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But do you think that's better than doing like a
five set of one day, having a day off five
set of whereas like you can break break it over
like a couple of days where you don't have to
get out and practice, you're just waking up and still playing.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, I mean I think it was two sets, or
wasn't it. And then he came out and played the
fifth set. And I'm sure he probably would have rather
a rest day after winning Eastbourne the week before. But no,
as you sort of mentioned, staying in the rhythm, it
is probably something to value as well, and just a
great comeback there. And I think Mapeshi Pericard little fun fact,
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who was one of the maybe the only person to
lose in five sets at the Aussie Open this year
and not generate one break point. So it's definitely he
definitely served some rockets and take some cuts on returns
and they don't always go in.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
So but yeah, great effort from Fritz.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And then we've had the Brits cause some big upsets
as well overnight. So Radikanu defeated von Drusiva six three
sixty three. She was the twenty twenty three champ, and
Nori defeated Tiafo, the twelfth seed four six six four
six three seven five. When I went to bed last night,
I thought Tiafo had it in the bag. When I
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woke up and realized that he had lost, I was
quite shocked.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
By that as well.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And Radakanu beating Dondrusiva was not on my bingo card either.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Well, it was that. Actually I debate whether that's an upset.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Rajakanu beating Bondrushieva just because they're both Grand Slam champions,
they've both been in the top ten. Rajakanu's got a
history of playing well at Wimbledon, and von Drusheva peaked
too early her history. No, this is the thing everyone's like.
She always comes and does huge results when no one's
expecting it. But she won Berlin, so she was coming
in as a torn favorite. We had people we interviewed
that said von Drushev as their pick to win the
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whole thing. Again, She's never been in that position in
her life. Everything big she's done has come when no
one predicted her to do it. So if you've beat
Sablenka to win Berlin and you're on center court, you're
a favorite now. And she got beaten in straight sets
against a player that's been there and done it herself before.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I feel like von Druceva. Yeah, twenty twenty three, Champ,
and I think exactly what you said. Sometimes players play
better when they're away from the limelight. No one was
expecting her to win that one, and now coming in
with form on center court, now there's expectations. So I
think Radakanu she definitely is destined for a run here
and Cam Nurray been struggling a little bit the last
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probably twelve months.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Or so, but he's been less on the radar for
a bit.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Less on the raid.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I think he slipped to almost outside the top hundred,
and the thing that I love about him, former semi
finalist at Wimbledon, but just plugs away, just keeps ticking
away and grind it. I think he's probably close to
thirty and just still working as hard as ever. And
I feel like it just shows that if you keep
your head down and keep working hard, that the results
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might not initially come, but if you've got to trust
the process and and trust that the results will come.
And I feel like his testament to that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And he did a bit better at Roland Garros this
year as well, didn't he. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I remember thinking, oh, I didn't he expect to see.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He beat Mede?
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Did you we there when that was Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
that was that was unexpected. So yeah, like, oh yeah,
of course you've been top ten before.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's when I kind of was like, oh, yeah, you're yeah, yeah,
which is good to see. Yeah, we've got some big
news too, that twenty two seeded players have lost round one,
so it's an open erar record at Wimbleden. It's been
pretty crazy to kind of watch some of the people
we expected not to fall fall, And we also saw
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Palini defeated by Rack him over that right, and Lahechka
and Schneider also out, So Lahechka ranked twenty three, Schneider twelve,
Paolini number four, So we are seeing some big things occur.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
A couple of days.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Really has Every morning I'm waking up and be like,
oh my god, yep, yeah on the grip chat.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
But the first thing I do is check yeah, check
the check the ut, check the scores, and then you're like, oh,
I think what was crazy though?
Speaker 8 (10:28):
About the twenty two seeds.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, yes, it's not maybe not a surprising to
lose like the twenty ninth seed in the first round,
but when it's Zverev and Goff and Pagoula, like top
ten players going out, that was not expecting that at all.
I think there were four top ten seeds that went
out of both the men and the women, so that's
eight top ten players. That's like a Grand Slam record
or something. So yeah, it was the nate. I think
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the nature of the names that went out, and then
year Paolini made the final. Last year Lahechka had just
made the Queen's Final. Yeah, there's like even Nori we
were talking about before, because so many Lehchka has gone out.
So he now plays Matia Balucci for his place in
the fourth round, which is for him. Yeah, so all
of these players. Yeah, with seeds going out, opportunities open
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up for other people, and yeah, it'll be fascinating to
see who takes advantage.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We will talk more on that because I think Jamie
you might have some elements of that on what caught
your eye. But Matt, would you like to give us
an Aussie update of what's been happening?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Just here, just here, just over the.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Page if you follow the agenda. Yes, So seventeen started
in the main draw. Did you guys know this was
the best since nineteen ninety five?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I did see that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, that's crazy. So yeah, thirty year old Australia go Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Helped by what you'll talk about, Luke Rahampton for em
qualifying to join and we know what. Yeah so, but
Jordan was the only one to survive on day one.
A lot of our players had some really tough. Really
my joint had to play. Sorry she was day two,
but there were players that were drawing seas and there
were yeah, there were some really tricky draws. Tali Gibson
had Osaka. You know, there were understandable, understandable defeats. But
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then we kind of recovered on day two and got
four winners through Casaquina, demon Or, Hi Jakarta, and Vukic.
For Vukic, that sets up a second round match with
world number one Yanick Sinner, which will be incredible, no
credible opportunity, but yeah, not the best, not the best,
and out there Ki Jakarta you could say, yeah, maybe better,
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but he's got Ben Shelton, the tenth seed next, also tough,
also really really tough.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Alex Bolt played first round.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Yes, and pushed him quite tough. Yeah, well and he did.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, so maybe he maybe Rinky can get some tips
off Balty. I'm not sure if that's how that works,
but you never know. It wouldn't hurt. Kasakina has Arena
Camillia beg you in round two. She's our highest ranked
Australian female player. She's sixteenth seed and has a history
of doing well at Wimbledon. So you know, interesting to
see how Dasha will go. So and Alex Demanor next
plays Artur Kazzo, who beat in five sets Adam Walton
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in the first round. So he's showing all of those
Australians that were in the draw they had the potential
to play each other. But yeah, Demon Demon looking a
bit better after you know, taking a bit of a
break and losing first round in Queens, coming back to
a place where he's done really well and starting to
find it again. So yeah, lots so yeah, five stelling
singles and we had some great winners in the doubles overnight,
my joint and Kimberly Berrel playing together.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
But yeah, that's a cool all assie duo. You know,
Billy jinkin Cup teammates as well, so that's really nice.
As you would know, Luke like a huge ossy presence
in the men's side in the doubles, which is where
we've done We've had a history of doing so well
at Wimbledon in doubles. So yeah, lots of you know,
even if the singles, you know less in the singles
still happening, but still five there and lots still look
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forward to in doubles, so it's a pretty healthy picture
in the first couple of days at the time.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
John Pears and Maddie Ebden will be playing tonight and
Reenky had a great win overnight as well, eleven nine
in the couple match.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, time breaks.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
So he actually reached out to me because Lee too
and I played those guys at the Strain Open.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
They sent me into retirement, so I was.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Happy that he got some revenge.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
So, yes, I've seen it, Texan. It was my it
was my scouting.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Of course, you are a coach Extraordan.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Now yeah, some would say no.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
But in this case yes.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
So it's great to see we're obviously so strong in doubles,
and to see Meyer and Kim as well, and I
think we Yeah, I'm not sure if Jordan's playing doubles
as well.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Well, that's got to be TVC, right, I would think so.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
With his injury and in the third round the singles,
the singles is still his priority, so I guess we
can wait and see on that one.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
But we're always are very strong the doubles.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, that's all really exciting.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I definitely will be tuning in tonight to watch a
Demino up against Kazo eight pm Australian Eastern Standard Time,
Channel nine or check out stands Sport if demon Or defeats,
because tonight he could face Djokovic in the fourth round,
which is a replay of what happened last year, which
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he obviously couldn't play due to his hip injury. But
so far he's looking great and let's hope he gets there.
Whoever his opponent ends up.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Being, yeah, definitely some tough names floating around in that section.
Thomas Mahawk is a very check player. Twenty first c
could be his third round opponent if you're kind of
looking at who could come up. But yeah, Djokovic looming
in the fourth round, which was that quarter final that
never happened at.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Wimbledon last year.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It was a real I was a real shame for
Alex Citd he never got that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So we're going to have a quick look at the
fantasy draft and see where we're sitting guys. To fill
you in, we are a couple of weeks back now.
We did the fairnessy last week. It feels like a
couple of weeks we did the fantasy draft between myself,
Levi from our data team who is a statistician, and Dan,
who's one of our writers here and needs not doing well.
(16:07):
So we will run through where we're at in our
fantasy draft. So team Levi had our Cris Sable, Anca Keys,
and Bublick. Bublick is already out, which I think surprised
quite a few of us with the run he's been having.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Definitely surprising.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, so I thought Levi I had quite a good
pick there.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
My team is Andreva, Draper, Sinner and Paulini with Paulini out.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And I am still impressed by my team.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'd like to say thanks.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Team defend finalists, Yeah, they're unlucky.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then team Dan, who is currently in autumn place,
is Rebeccna, Djokovic, Goff and Lahechka, And obviously he's lost
GoF and Lahechka.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So I'm going to ask all of you which team
would you pick?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Your team? Very hundred thought so.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yours and Levis is good. I think Hechka and Public
that's pretty unlucky. I don't mind those as outsiders, especially
Public winning Hola the Hetchka making the final queens. So yeah,
I think for being the twenty eighth and twenty third seed.
They're good outsiders. A little unlucky there, Paulini, as I said,
defending finalists, So a little bit unlucky there. And GoF
(17:24):
I was expecting more because a tough first round, especially
on the grass, and you know, she plays aggressive, she
plays big and golf, she's she's very aggressive, very explosive,
and finals here. Yeah, and it's tougher to defend on
the grass, which Coco is so good at doing, as
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we saw at the French Open in Paris.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
So tough one there, but yeah, I think you've done well.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Bray, thank your teacher in the celebrity, but I'm sorry
to be I would take team Late purely from a
selfish perspective.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Alcoraz and Sabalinka were both my title but he got
the first pick. Yeah, well exactly, do you know what
it was? And it was not my favorite.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is a real well little not can't be under
the radar. She won the AO, but she's in Sabalinka's quarterut,
so that would be a blockbuster quarter final. He's so
good on grass, so I think any of those three.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Could win it.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So yeah, we went on Drever.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I wouldn't put on drever as a favorite ahead of
Sabalinka or Keys No god no no, so no, okay,
cool but sinner great one in your in your team.
Draper is a fascinating one, don't we think? Like we
didn't actually get to see the full picture of how
well he started off very well with his opponent Sebastian
Bayas withdrew from their first round match. But the talk
(18:43):
about Draper was how will he cope with the hometown expectations,
being a top five seed and being put on all
these big courts for the first time.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Looked good to start, so that would be a huge story.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And I feel like the paparazzi a following him everywhere
in wimbled and at the moment because we've seen all
the photos that are everywhere.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Him, like filling his car petrel.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Let him just put some petrol in the car, but
also keep sharing the photos because they great and keep
winning for teen three exactly, Draper, keep doing it. We
just want to do a quick couple of shout outs
for some players who potentially all have confirmed that they
are playing their last Wimbledon. So Petra Kaviva, second time champion,
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was handed a world card. She lost to Navarro and
she will finish up this year after the US Open,
so sad to see her career end. And then also
Fabio Fognini, thirty eight year old hasn't wont to match
this season. Rather than a ten match losing street, he
pushed our Karaz to five sets in round one. We
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did see him crying in the locker rooms afterwards. Believe
this is his last Wimbledon, right, our Karaz gifted him
his shirt postmatch for his son Federico, who quite likes Okaras.
So it looks like that might have been his last
Wimbed and from his actions that we watched, and obviously
(20:11):
not yet, but gaumon Fis has rumored that he might
be his last Mimudim. We're not sure of that yet
because he did just you know, beat Umbert in a
typical five set classic.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But I mean, what a win in the first round
in five sets against Umbert. Didn't he just make the
he's great on grass and he was a seed, like
grass isn't mon fee surface of choice. Typically he's more
you know, great at Roland Garroson on hardcourt. So I
was really surprised by that result. But it's just amazing
how he's enduring and his age still so so good
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over five sets and can push the world's best players
and beat them.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
I think it's staggering what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Incredible. Did you see the warm up video.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I think he was hitting with Spiderlina and she was
just absolutely smacking the ball and he's like shanking every
ball and she's like going fast and he's just standing
there just trying to warm up.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I thought that was funny.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
I don't know, Well, maybe she got him into a groove.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Probably.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think they've been hitting this week because another there
was definitely one from overnight. I reckon they've been doing
that more than once on the practice courts there. It's
working for both of them.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Right, Let's move on to what's caught your eye.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So this is our segment where we talk about the
things that have caught our eye this week. Luke Yep
over to you.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, obviously, I was just in London back a little
bit earlier than expected. I was there with Dasher who
went down, but I was able to stay around and
watch the rest of the qualifying at Roehampton, as we know,
is off site.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
It's not at the EW England club.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So how far away is it from the England?
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Three or four k's about to drive, So there's something
in that where yeah, look, it's it's tough you're not
on site, but something very special when you do qualify
and you earn that right to sort of go into
the locker room and walk around Wimbledon. So I was
there and I feel like for me and my passagor
and Jamie can also talk to this qualifying there three
(22:02):
times and I just have such amazing memories and when
Ozzie's qualify for Winmwood and it's just something so special
about it and just walk around on that last day
and a good mate Lee too went down in four
sets to Manorino but played very very well. Manorino's in
the third round now and James McCabe also getting through
and that was great to see him. And another one
(22:22):
of our very promising prospects, Tarlie Gibson getting through and
I think the woman that she beats last round, excuse me,
got lucky loser as in the third round beat Katie Bolter.
Oh was it Sarah? Yeah, So fantastic win there Alex
Bolt as well. My good mate just grows an extra
foot on grass courts, and as we mentioned earlier, played
(22:45):
a great match against Ben Shelton and Prihn also getting
through saving five match points. So I think for me,
it's just seeing Ozzie's qualify. I've got amazing memories. I
remember my first year, I was playing on the end
court and had about fifteen Australians coach and players watching me,
and in my fifth set they will changing ends with me.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
So I saw to get goosebumps thinking about that. And
I save match points in two of my last rounds,
so any in five, all three were in five.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So that's the thing that's unique about Wimbledon qualifying, isn't
it that they making the men's third round. They go
to best of five sets instead of three, so you
get kind of a main draw or taste.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I guess the best of five in the men And
also watching Maddy English, she lost to Petro Martch first
round in a brutal third set super tire break. It's
very stiff because Maddie was playing great. And of course
Emerson Jones making the last round, losing to Diane Parry
who's also in the third round. They beat Martyach first
round and beat Schneider twelve seed six four six one.
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So that's my little spill Roehampton something special about it.
And I guess, Jamie, do you think that it played
off site? Does that make it extra special for qualifiers
when you do get on site.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, I think it does.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
There's just something about Rahampton where it's where you grind,
It's where you get yourself through those three matches to
be able to have the privilege to play on site,
to be able to walk into the doors and be like, yep,
I qualified for my first slam, my third slam, my
fifth Slam. So yeah, it's always really special. And the
year that I actually qualied, my younger sister came overseas
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and she came towardch me play that year. Oh and
I forgot to tell her that qualis isn't at Wimby.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Oh we got there. We rocked up to Rahampton.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I was like, oh, Chrissy, welcome to the cricket field,
like this is what we play. And I was like,
my goal this week is to to be able to
take her on site. Because I was very lucky, like
I got to play juniors and played in main draw,
so I got to play in the courts and be
around that. But for her, like you watch it on
TV and you're like, I would love to show her
what it's like. So yeah, to be able to go
there was really special. And to be able to win
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three Collies matches and be like, okay, we're leaving the
cricket field now we're onto the big stage. So yeah,
it also holds a special place.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
In my heart.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And yeah, that year I collied, I actually had to
borrow Ellen Presa's shoes and her skirt, so I had
shoes that were half sized too big, and then I
didn't have a white skirt because we're white, so yeah,
I had to borrow her skirt too, and I had
a top that had like clay on it.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Love But the place has really come along. It's much
different now there's a few center courts. It's ticketed, so
it's definitely a lot more official if you like there,
and yeah, it starts.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
To feel like an actual college slang.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Yeah, and I feel like for me it's so special
because there's a real Aussie contingent there, even staff as well,
a lot of tense Australia staff, and it's a.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
White well, there's no one in the building right now,
so I'm pretty sure they are.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Yeah, And just when it's away from our shores and
just seeing that, you know, Assie's get around each other,
that's what I find very special. And just the desperation
as well. I was sort of laughing last round of qualities.
You just if you want to see desperate tennis players
go to the last round of qualities for Wimbledon, because
they just as Jamie alluded to, you fighting to get
into that main draw, and you kind of feel like
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it's not that you're not a player, but you have
to earn that right to get into the main draw
rather than hear at the austrain and Open or the
other three Slams. You're at least playing on site in
the qualities. But as you said, Brie, it's you've got
to preserve the grass courts, so you can't play on site.
And I think if you get through and you haven't,
your matches haven't been too long. You have great preparation
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going into into the main draw. And we see quite
a few qualifiers in the third round, so I think
grass court practice and matches is invaluable.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Yeah, and is the true you're undefeated at Roehampton.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Is that the stat Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
I lost in junior's there, but.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It doesn't it's like a juvenile crime that gets wiped
on once you hit eighteen.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Yeah, so yeah, I am under Why do I know
about that?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
So yeah, I am undefeated at roeham Not many posts
could say that. So fourteen to oh because I qualified
three times and then I won a future there two
years ago on the.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Gas, Yeah, because how's it? Fourteen to oh because you
qualified three times? But that's right, there's the other if
twenty it.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Was days prior to this year, I might have said
it's dash.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
I was like, you, we have to go seventeen to zero,
like you can't do and she said, I know you're joking,
but that really does apply a lot of pressure to me.
And then sure enough for fourteen and one now, so
I have I've let her know countless.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Time over thing.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, we might move on to Jamie before Luke gets
into trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
What caught your eye?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I think the thing that caught my eye the last
week or week and a half, because this kind of
goes back to the tournaments before Wimby is the amount
of round one losses to the players that have won
the week before. So yeah, my joint Paula Greek Sport
and Fritz, Well, Fritz are still going strong, so he's
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our only that it's still going.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
But yeah, just more the thoughts around.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You see a lot of the top players now not
playing the week before and getting to Wimby or like
each Slam quite early to be able to prepare themselves
mentally and physically for the two weeks of playing grand
some tennis. So yeah, it's been quite interesting to see
the amount of players that choose to go play or
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not play, And I think, yeah, I'm not sure what
you guys think around that loop.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I think the ideal preparation is to take that week
off prior see or the top players, but they are
able to because the points at two fifties are almost
not worth putting onto their rankings, so they'd rather just
go in fresh. But I think there's probably two things here. Firstly,
I think the depth in the game is at its
absolute highest right now, so twenty two seeds out first round.
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I think it's just the sheer depth of our game
right now, and there's no round that's safe for these seeds.
I mean We've seen Fritz's draw and a lot of
the top seeds go out, so I think there's there's
that one. And then I think it's just the physicality
and the length of the season as well, and it's
pretty brutal. I mean that we've spoken countless times about
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you know, even Alex after the French Open, I needed
to take some time off and he's played one grass
caught match Lee into Wimbledon, which I think is probably
a first for him. Usually plays her tongue on Bosh
Queens and unfortunately when out first round of Queens. So
it's just I think it's that challenge of trying to
manage yourself throughout a very heavy season.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
So that are my two points on why.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
There's probably more sort of upsets in the first round
of Slams.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I think it's also quite tough coming from like a
tournament the week before where you have one d to
figure everything out. You have to get your quotation, You've
got to organize transportation or the logistics, and like, even
though Wimby is small, like it's still quite big where
you need to go for things. It can be on
the other side of the park or you need to
get to the practice course and it kind of takes
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a lot out of.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
You, like have you got your mentor right mental and physically.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
So yeah, I think some of these players maybe not
playing the before or some like it, some don't.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So I think it's dependent on and we discussed it
because I was thinking about Maya Joint with.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
The French as well.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So yeah, she had won in the lead up and
then came in, went out round one, and then the
same things happened to her again here at Budden and
I was kind of saying to Matt and the guys, like,
it's great that she just won, Like is it better
to not to take that tournament off to go into
a Slam more rested.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, I don't think it's bad at all for Joint,
specifically because she lost to sam Sonova, who was the
nineteen seed, who's you know, eight player on grass, and
I think it made Berlin semi so. And she lost
to Tom Lanovitch in the first round of Rolling Garros,
who's no slash either. I would think my Joint wouldn't
mind now having two WTA titles in her ranking. She's
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now at forty in the world. But it is a
tough turnaround definitely, because there's also that high of winning
a title and then having to come down and reset,
and that whole thing in tennis that you never get
a chance to enjoy your successes because it's onto the
next thing. Ye, But there's also the question. There's also
the fact that that grass specifically throws up unusual results.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
It's only a five week season.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Players unusually have to play the week before Wimbledon because
you know, you have to play the week before the
French because you've had two months of clay, but you
have to play the with That's why all the Aussie
a lot of people play the week before the Australian
Open because there's only been one week of tournaments. You
need matches, and so many players don't have games that
suit grass. They have grips, they have court positioning that
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are not suited to it. They've never played. We're lucky
in Australia, like you guys have access to grass courts
in reach areas or at junior level. There'd be so
many players in Europe and South America and other Asia
that have never set foot on a grass court until
they became pro. So that adds another layer and I
think a lot of them probably feel the need to
chase matches and time on grass because what the hell
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am I doing on it?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Well, Mayers, she's won fifty five matches this year. I wow, yeah,
Wowbanka she's on forty seven. So the amount of matches
that Maya's played two weeks before the Slam, like, that's great.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I know, I think in Maya's case, Yeah,
I don't personally think that was bad. She'll be really
disappointed because it was a great opportunity, but yeah, she's
had tough draws and it's all part of that learning.
She'll probably in a couple of years get to the
point where she doesn't need to play the week before
Slam because she's she might not do it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
So yeah, that was a great result in Xborn.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
May on Fire, Myron Fire on Fire.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Yeah, loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, we might continue with you, Matt, because you had
some observations with some comments from Pegoula.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, well, I just think she articulated something that is
kind of I think we've all known, but no one's
ever really discussed it that openly and pressed and had
that conversation with journalists about the difference in formats men
get to play best of five and women only play
best of three at Grand Slams. Actually, I think we
have the clip of Jess Pagola talking about this following
her first round loss to Eliza Better Cocciaretto at Wimbledon.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, let's see what she said.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I think it's harder to win two out of three
than it is to win three out of five, and
not physically obviously, but I think it always is going
to cater the better player in the long run if
you're playing three out of five. So I think you'd
see a lot more upsets of top players if men
played two out of three and slams, where.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
With two players that have played Grand Slams before best
to three best of five. What do you guys think
when you hear Jesspogola say what she said? Have you
ever thought about that?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I sort of agree with what she's said. It's one
hundred percent of different mentality. You're going into a best
of five than a best of three. You know, you
feel like you can lose the first set in the
best of five and your opponent's still got two to win,
whereas and then watching that exact match the other night
and Dasher, my wife said, I think when was down
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to set in the break, she said, if this match
was best of five, the goal is probably a very
good chance to come back and win this one and
then sure enough. In their press conference, she said that,
so I think the best of five, it's definitely a
tradition in Grand Slams.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
A lot of the people will say that.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
I sort of agree that's it's pretty long, and I
think the physicality in the in the mental aspect is amazing,
but it's a long time. So I think exactly what
she's saying is is spot on. I think women probably
don't need to play five. If anything, the men come
back to best of three, and I mean if it
was best of three, I would have never qualified for Wimbledon.
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So I'm definitely a bit biased, but completely change everything,
change a lot.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
It would.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Do you like the idea of playing five, Jamie, or like,
what do you think when you hear just say that?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I think I kind of agree with Luke, but my
person opinion like I've always wanted to play best of five,
so I think that would be cool to have that
opportunity to do it. But mentally physically, I think it
would be quite tough knowing how long my match is
go for that would go way longer, it would be
it'd be quite boring by the end of it.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
But yeah, I feel like also the.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Lower ranked players that are beating the high ranked players,
they're not able to back up another win, and I think.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
That would be part of it. Also.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I don't know, like you kind of see a lot
of these girls kind of beat a high ranked players
where they can play for sixty minutes, lights out, but
they're not being able to back it up and again.
And I think that's where in a five set match,
someone that is high ranked would kind of be able
to overcome that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, So I think we saw that with Alcarez. I
reckon that the match we discussed when he played Fognini
that went five. Now, no one expected that to be
as tight as it was, but Alcarez talked about being
very very nervous stepping out as that defending champion position
on the first match of the day on Monday on
Sena Court and Fongnini, And yeah, if that had been
three Setsgnini well, according to the set so Alcarez won
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the two out of the first three, so he would
would but he might have been more nervous because he
didn't have as much time, and he always had in
the back of his mind. I just need to get
it to a fifth set against thirty eight year old
Folgnini who can't move as well.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
And we saw the we saw the final score was
six one. He outlasted in physically.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
He wouldn't have had that advantage in three sets, and
Fognini would have known I only have to last three.
I can tree for sixty minutes, which he was kind
of doing. He was playing great against a potentially more
nervous Alcaraz. That result could have been different.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
But to here everyone sort of say, for example, beating
Rafa over three, like best of three sets on clay
is possibly doable. Best of five at the French Open,
it's very much impossible.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Yeah, most impossible. Yeah it's on clay.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think maybe it was injured a couple
of times, but I think that and Djokovic as well.
I don't think you would have had twenty four slams.
But you can go on and on. But I think
these guys are so good over five and you can
almost pace yourself a little bit and you actually have
to do that best of five if you come out
and I think my first couple of best of five's,
I was jogging out of the shells, sprinting, I was
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ripping come ons in the first set, and I crammed
by the third set. So you've got to learn to
actually pace yourself a bit. It's a different, different way
of going about it.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I think we probably like the idea of women getting
boosted to three out of five is probably impossible from
a scheduling perspective, only until later in the tournament though,
when it's the final and the semis and you're not
competing against anyone else on the schedule, it's your day.
Maybe maybe three out of five for the women, I'm
not sure. Maybe not what just once, but yeah, it's
just it.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I don't think it's going to happen though with it,
because they'd want to.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
It would have to be a three week event.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, right, five If it was going to be five sets,
the way it would have to get an extra week.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
That's a pretty big ask.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Both big fascinating stuff, but he is, you want to
keep pondering, maybe we could go and look at what
the rankings would be if we just took the first
three cents. Maybe let's not because we might cause some dramas.
But moving over to what caught my I just you know,
Stephanos sisipass greatly loved by the fans in Australia, very
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very loved player here in OZ. But he did come
out this week with a quote saying I have a limit.
I would definitely have to make a final decision of
whether I want to keep going or not in the
next few months. I see this going the same direction.
There's no point of competing. So he had to retire
from his round one at Wimbledon. He has a back
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injury which has been kind of on and off since
twenty twenty three. We haven't seen him playing his best
or playing to what I think everyone thinks his potential
is for I would say quite some time now, maybe
over a year. And early news this morning allegedly him
(39:12):
and Bedoza have also broken up, so a bit of
stuff going on in the Sissypas camp. He's also recently
changed his racket. He's also changed his coach. He's now
with Goren.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I think that's possibly a bit of an emotional few
quotes there, like straight off the match and it's it's
been disappointing. His his season, no doubt his worst since
twenty seventeen, his debut season. So I think he won
Du Bay earlier this year with a babble at racket,
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but now it's it's been blacked out. I think he's
gone back to the Wilson So it's been possibly.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I remember we some stuff about that on the pod.
When that happens, be.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Interested, Like you won a title with in Iraq, clearly
it was clicking.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
That could be going back to think three sets, like
everything could be going really well in those three sets
instead of it being over.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Interesting and then we're probably talking contracts and he might
have been contracted to Wilson and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
But interesting here as well.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Rumors they'll work on a two handed back end, And
Jamie and I were chatting off air, and she said,
is his one handed back had really that bad? And
I mean, he's made a number of Grand Slam finals.
Is still a great backhand. But I think that's probably
just rumors, but tough to see where he's going. I
think Gore and Ivanizovich should be great for him, a
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good influence, and I think tennis is better when sits,
passes up and running. He's great, great for the game
and hopefully most importantly him and Butos who can work
things out.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
And I would like them to work things out because
I really like the content they do together.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's really good.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
But it is just you're right. He is a great
character for me.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
He's great, like, plays a really interesting way, feel a
different character, different energy on the tour. Isn't the theory
that he's never been the same after losing the two
sets to love lead against Jokovic in the French Open final,
Like he's never his results have declined since then. I
think there's a theory or a belief that he's never
kind of completely like he's been changed ever since that
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still great.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Might still be in there and just say like that
this is his worst season so far, like you're always
going to have a lull, Like there's always to be
able to sustain top ten, top five, it's hard, Like
it's tough, and I feel like maybe they don't get
enough credit as serve like to be able to be
that high for so long.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Oh, his consistency is crazy, Like when he fell out
of the top ten this year, I think that he'd
been in the top ten for five years without.
Speaker 8 (41:45):
It a leading it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
But what what do you both think about his He
keeps talking about this injury, but he keeps playing. He's
never taken any time off, So what do you think
about that? In terms of schedule management, If you're battling
an injury, why are you playing a full schedule?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, especially with backs, have you BA issue, It can
be tough, Like it can be mentally tough. I think
outside of life, your back will hurt. When you're on
the court, your back will hurt. So it's something you
always think about. You kind of get consumed in this
world of like my back.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Thinking about the pain.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Yeah, I think about the pain. So yeah, that's an
interesting question. I don't know why he hasn't taken six
months or four months off to be able to understand
because Badosa is also going through back problems.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, surely they speak about it, takes time off.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, she has had time off.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I'm sure maybe they're not talking about it, or I
think with tennis there's always a tournament the next week
and very important with injuries to take like a long
term approach with injuries, and like for him, he probably
always wants to play there might be appearance money for tournaments,
and we've got these mandatory events with the Masters Series.
Speaker 7 (42:51):
So I think it's it's always easier.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Said than done, but to take that time off to
get it right and then someone is talented and and
as good as Steph, you know, I feel like if
he can get healthy again and he hopefully can get
back inside the top ten and make.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
Up that money rather than just laying and playing.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
So isn't that why you have someone in your team
to be like, hold on, this isn't working. Like we've
gone through this cycle time and time again. Okay, you
need to change something or you need to stop for
a period of time to get there.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
That's what I was.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Just thinking, because I wonder if Goraan, being the new
person that comes in, says exactly that, and then maybe
there's a different approach.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Okay, well that wraps us from what caught your eye.
We're gonna jump to a break and then we'll be
right back with you. So we wanted to kick off
with a little bit of a chat that is bubbling away,
and Luke, you wanted to have a bit of a
chat about are we facing a mental health crisis on tour?
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Yeah, I think, you know, obviously, Dasha a few weeks
ago came out and said she was coming home after
Paris and just struck with a bit of motivation and enjoyment.
And I think since then there's been a few more
sort of coming out and Alexi Popper and Sasha's whereof
after their matches, Caspar Rude a few months ago, Alex
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Demonar a little bit after French as well. So it
comes back to a pretty brutal season, pretty brutal schedule calendar.
And I think when Poparin came out after his match
a couple of days ago and had those quotes and
then Thatsh just sort of went off and produced that
video that's been circling around, and I think, you know, obviously,
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I have complete supportive of Dasher, and I think it's
very brave that she's coming out and sort of voicing
her opinion and whatnot. And I think it's very easy
to keep continue to play and not sort of face
how you're feeling a little bit. So she's come out
and she's doing well, and we'll take some weeks off
and hopefully head over to the US, but we're not
going to rush that process, and we just really want
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her to get that happiness back in satisfaction to go
out and hit tennis balls and compete. So I think
she's gee, she's been going a long time dasher and
had some serious injuries that she's come back from. So
he's shown so much fight, but it's probably just catching
up to her a little bit. So I think, you know,
possibly the tours ATP and WTA could do a better
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job of recognizing recognizing this current issue because it's it's
a real thing. The tour is tough, and I'm not
saying that a lot of people aren't going through difficulties,
but I think it's just I think Dasha coming out
and a few coming out it's sort of open the
door for more to voice their opinions. So I think
it's a good thing to discuss.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
So many players are seeing other players talking about it.
As you said, what Alexi said resonated with me. I
can share my story. Osaka has done the same thing. Yeah,
Ash Barty was quite a famous example of like you know,
I'm burning out, I'm taking time away in business, Andrescu's
another one. Took so many women inside inside it doesn't matter.
There's so many examples of it now, whereas five ten
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years ago this wasn't happening.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
So I'm so lady people are talking about it.
Speaker 8 (46:09):
The conversation so so crucial.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It sounds like we need more mental health awareness for
our tennis athletes, and I'm sure so many would be
supportive of that. We are going to delve even deeper
next week on this very topic with Dasher. We're swapping
Luke out next week for Dasha. The better version, the
better sable jokes. We love you both equally, But really
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looking forward to that chat with Dasher to talk further.
We're going to jump into my top five. My top
five has been really driven by Igga showing how many
towels that she steals from Wimbledon.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
No, I just saw at the end there you've played
Wimbledon just a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
How many towels have you just put in your bag?
Speaker 1 (46:55):
So, like, I don't know clause is at home, but
there is a bit.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Sex and it's like a topic that no one never
ever talks about, Like we love our towels.
Speaker 9 (47:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
Yeah, every time I come back from Alam, I think
I have like I don't know, ten friends and ten
members of my family wanting towels.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
So sorry, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
And then didn't she go on to say that she
had like I don't know tows like she needs a
special room like a big linen press for all of
her towels.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
From all of the tournaments around the world. I actually
love it. That's great.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
You know what, my friends they'll be like, do you
have any merch at the moment? Oh my, I lost
my AO you know bottle, do you have any more?
Like can they come over? Because you know, we just
end up with quite a bit, and I'm like, yeah, cool.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Take this, take that anyway. So how are going to
do it.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
We've got five topics, so five areas that you would
steal things from. We've got multiple choice, and you get
to choose what you'd steal from the hortible choice.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So the first one is send caught the iconic stage.
You found yourself caught side after play wraps up. What
are you casually pocketing? A is a Wimbledon seat cushion,
but you're stealing it as someone stands up, so when
they turn around they.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Can't find it.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, yeah, b A few stray blades of the famous
wimbled and grass. So like you're going down to the
court and cutting some grass, popping it in a little
whatever you want, a little glass container. See a player's
towel from the side of the court midplay though, like
you know how they hang it over the court. Yep,
you're taking the yeah with that probably, but these are
(48:40):
your choices, y and D. A tennis ball that bounces
into the stairs stands for our listeners normally have to
hand that ball back, but you pretend you haven't caught
it and you hide it so you don't have to
give it back.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
Those cameras everywhere, Yeah you could, yeah, but we would
be getting in so much trouble for all of it.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
So which would you choose? Tennis ball? Yeah, that feels
like a souvenir seat cushion.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'd go seat Christian, I think the seat chushion.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
Okay, it's cool, candy too.
Speaker 9 (49:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Oh do you know what I've never wanted one more
than at Roland Garrel sitting on those wooden planks that
they have you to sit on.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Okay, two, we're going to be which is called Henman
Hill or Murray Mound, pending what generation you're from. So
you're soaking up the atmosphere with all the fans and
you want a cheeky memento. So here's our options. A
someone has a Wimbledon deck chair and you steal it.
B an abandoned picnic blanket that is wimbled and branded.
(49:42):
A Wimbledon hat taking off someone's head. That's number C
or D. A Wimburden program laying idle on someone else's
picnic road deck chair.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah I'm leaning deck chair. But also as a person
that loves the publication program, maybe the program. I thought
you might have gone hat because someone said I do
like the hat. I actually know, I will say a
rolling garross. There was a Panama hat on the ground
when I was there, and I was just like, I've
always wanted one of those Panama hats.
Speaker 8 (50:11):
Done it where it had been been the dirt, and
I just took it.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Do you still have it?
Speaker 6 (50:15):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
I don't know where it's been in, but I was.
Speaker 8 (50:17):
Thrilled to have it.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Okay, we're going to go with number three. We're now
in the queue.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
We probably should have started with the que but where
we're going start and with cue, so you know, the
ultimate fan tradition. So you've camped overnight. What are you
slipping away from or with from the queue? So a
your queue cud B A guide to the Q Handbook,
which is which is a thing?
Speaker 8 (50:43):
Who knew?
Speaker 1 (50:46):
See a Wimbledon branded umbrella that you've stolen from the
merch tent nearby and d an empty plastic bag someone
else's strawberries came in because.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
It's got a windled and logo on it.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
I'm going umbrella.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
You guys are going high.
Speaker 5 (51:01):
They Yeah, I've got a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Yeah, Q card.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
I reckon cue caudle the book, Yeah, I love it. Okay, great,
I've only got two more to go. Guys, you're a
pretty good thief. Someone say, Okay, we've gone to play
practice courts, really going about limbed in a weird way.
You're loitering practice slow key item, do you know? So
(51:28):
we've got an empty heavy arn bottle left behind by
a player the you're actually stealing the what do you
call it?
Speaker 3 (51:37):
The saliva.
Speaker 7 (51:39):
Drink?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Half backwashed drink from the tennis players backwash?
Speaker 5 (51:50):
But if you steal that, are you leaving it in
there forever?
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Actually using it forever? Be a player's racket controversial. See
a sweaty player wristband that's been left behind, or d
the plastic covers used to protect the courts from rain.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
One hundred percent racket.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Yeah, it's all illegal and we can all pray on that.
So let's go for the racket.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, we are illegal. We're stealing.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
There's an exit near the practice courts, so.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
I love that you're already thinking about the exit route.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Racket straight as long as the racket has like you know,
it has like the name of the player.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, our last one. We're now in the merch shop.
So now we are getting like high level shoplifting, shoplifting, shoplifting,
not just stealing people's items. So the first scene, do
we steal a a book which is called the Original
Rules of Tennis book the foreword by Tim Henman could
(53:03):
be good. Be a pair of strawberry socks, which I'm
quite into it. They're quite cute and they.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Do deliver to Australia. I realize today.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
See a Wimbledon and bloom tea towels pretty gross, I
would say, or d the most expensive thing in the shop,
which is the Championships twenty twenty five Silk Screen Official
poster with six hundred and seventy dollars.
Speaker 8 (53:30):
Oh and that's pounds not yes, so like a thousand bucks.
Speaker 6 (53:34):
Yeah, because they get a real rush, yeah yeah, real
rush uplifting something worth the grand I was going to ask,
can we gift these items?
Speaker 7 (53:48):
Were stealing?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Or is that for an am straight to eBay? If
you want, you can do whatever you want with them.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
Boy, you've got you've come this far.
Speaker 9 (53:57):
Rules.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
It would be a good would be breaking actually by Tim.
That's a nice this week's guest the word by Tim
quite like the book. Although you sold me the strawberry socks.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Strawberry socks are actually really cute. You need to get
on the side. I think I'm going to buy something, but.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Actually they have Wimby you know those like when you
get like a coffee or like a smoothie, and like
those cups those.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
I did have them on there like they're still a
recyclable cup.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
But it says I live at Wimbledon. All of those
came home with me.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
You brought a couple back when you're not supposed to
at all, because you actually don't have to really return them.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I think that's player you can take anything right. Well,
so yeah, I think we're fine. Great, well, thank you
for being fantastic thieves. I believe in all of you
you would be in my posse of steelers. Anyway, let's
move on from that. We're going to wrap up quickly
(55:07):
with Ace of the Week. The one good thing outside
of tennis can be tennis if you want. And then
we're done.
Speaker 7 (55:14):
We're done.
Speaker 8 (55:14):
Who wants to go first?
Speaker 5 (55:16):
Oh, Jamie, Yes, mine's coming here.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Actually, so this is my first time I've left the
house in the week post surgery, so it's nice to
get out and socializes and see everyone.
Speaker 5 (55:28):
So yeah, might be being invited to come back here.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Oh my god, I just wanted my cold cold heart.
Thank you for that. Brought some blood back to the vans.
That's really good. I'm glad, and I'm glad the operation
went well as well.
Speaker 6 (55:41):
Good to see you're are, Jamie. You probably feel the
tension between Jamie and I are today.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Scar.
Speaker 7 (55:48):
We're just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
This is going to be a.
Speaker 6 (55:54):
Collingwood fans, so Colin aren't flying, but we usually get
up against the Pies, even if for a teenth, and
the Pie is the top.
Speaker 7 (56:01):
Will get up for that game.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
So are you going?
Speaker 7 (56:03):
I'm not going because I'm too scared.
Speaker 8 (56:08):
I want to be in public listeners.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Carlton versus calling what the MCG is one of the
AFL blockbusters.
Speaker 8 (56:15):
That is traditional rivals.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
How many specting crowd to say how many teeth will be.
Speaker 8 (56:22):
But you could be getting like eighty or ninety thousand
to the MCG for that. That is a sporting art.
Speaker 7 (56:26):
It's always a great game, great rivalry.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
So looking forward, when's that on tomorrow Tomorrow night night?
Friday night? So Wimbledon or a f L will you
be watching.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
I'll be at the footy with Wimbledon on.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, yeah, so you might have to double screen tomorrow night.
That seems like, So was that your ace of the
week that you might lose in af that is coming up?
Speaker 7 (56:50):
I thought we were enjoying one, to be honest on
the spot, so I got nothing.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I'm just going to say. So it's my Auntie's sixtieth tonight,
which is always that. That's a big master. There's a
big family dinner at one of my favorite pubs in Melbourne,
the Park and that's a beautiful bub and you know
it's one of those ones, the dining room, the open fire.
I love a cozy pub in winter, so that will
be I don't know, Palma for dinner obviously a wild
night after that home to watch Whatever time I get
(57:18):
home them will have just started.
Speaker 8 (57:20):
So yeah, it'll be going straight in to watch Demon.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (57:24):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
My ace of the week is that I'm just having
a friend of dinner on Friday night and we're doing
I where I am cooking her some one pan dishes.
Speaker 8 (57:35):
So you know how I've sent you, Matt Breeze an
excellent Genuinely.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I am a good cook, but I'm also like a
TikTok cook sometimes, and my friend has been wanting me
to cook these like Tiktoks and Stasians. So I'm doing
the potato chip charcuterie baked board, which is just potato
chips and then you put three different cheeses meats drizzle
hot honey in in the oven.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, and I'm also doing the one.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Pen noki, which is where you again use two cheeses,
you scatter it, then you place snocky around it, then
you scatter a cheese on top of it, put it in.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
You end up with like this wedge of nocki and cheese.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
So we're coming to.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
And then we're running for all of Saturday. It's not healthy.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
So that's what we're doing tomorrow night, just her and I.
She's bringing her dog, My dog and cat will be there.
We'll have a couple of wines and I'm going to
cook her the.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Thing she's been wanting.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. But that
is the end of our show. It has been a
meaty one. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Jamie Fallis and Luke Savill. We love having you and
yeah we will see you soon. And Matt, thank you
for filling in for you.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
Are so much better looking, more knowledgeable and nicer than Dave.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
Where is everyone? He's in Fiji. Yeah, yeah, he's in Fiji.
He's been winging about it. I was like, mate, it's
eight degrees and raining here.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Shut up. Yeah, you're fine, fine, but we will see
you next week.
Speaker 6 (59:10):
Hey everyone, Harps and Andy here just want to remind
you that you can watch every episode of The Tennis
on our YouTube channel, Australian Open TV.
Speaker 10 (59:16):
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Speaker 7 (59:32):
Catch you later.
Hello, and welcome to the tennis too hot to handle
seeds scorched in a brutal first week of Wimbledon. Best
of three vers best of five, we debate Pergoula's Grand
Slam claim and terminator Tom O Woo, the wounded Warrior,
wills himself to another win. That's all ahead with me,
Breeze Stewart and the co host this week has jumped
(00:27):
over from our sister podcast to sit down. We have
Matrelope filling in for Zave and we couldn't be happy.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
No, thank you for having me nice. I like the panel,
the panels, it's good. It's a good time in podlavor arena.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It is a good time, so welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
But we also have a couple of Aussie stars Jamie Fallers,
welcome back, and you're here for your second appearance, and
you seem to be adorned in a new accessory.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I am thanks for having me back. You're excited to
be invited back. Yeah, I have the new accessory. Had
a shoulder surgery last week week, so we'll be home
for a while.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
But what a cool opportunity to come back on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yeah, well, glad to hear that it went all good.
But it is also our gain to get to have
you on the pod a little bit. So there's a
positive there is, there's a silver lining positive.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Yeah, always happy to experience another Melbourne wah.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
What a great positive that is.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And next to you we have Luke Saville, so good
to have you back. Just back from Europe a little
bit sooner than we'd hoped.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
Great to be back guys, and excited yeap, obviously back
a little earlier than expected.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
But yeah, join you guys again. It's a great honor.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So I'm really excited. And you know what, next week
we also have Dasher, so that's exciting too. So with
the pair of you we get double wammy excitement, which
is really good. But let's catch up now with all
the latest news from Day three at Wimbledon. Was a
pretty big day yesterday their time, last night our time.
Some really big things happened. Let's kick off first with
(01:58):
my favorite Thompson and defeating is it Bonzie?
Speaker 8 (02:01):
Yeah, Benjamin Bonzie. We weren't even sure.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
The word on the.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Ground was that Tomo may not even pull up well
enough to play his second round match after the five
set heroics of the first round. Because he's carrying a
back injury, and I think has said that Wimbledon, like
he's just squeezing everything he can out of himself at
Wimbledon and then we'll take time off to get it
looked at. And this happened in the middle of the
night Melbourne time, and we woke up and found out
that he'd come back and won in five. Again, that
(02:27):
is a phenomenal result. It was his best Wimbledon result.
And yeah, he was the one Aussie player in singles
last night. So just yeah, from someone that you thought
wouldn't even get through the match or might not even start,
what a heartwarming result to see him do it at
a tournament he loves so much.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah, I think there's one thing in tennis you can't
sort of measure or gauge ticker and Tomo's just he
epitomizes that. And yeah, I caught up with him a
couple of days before he played, and he's struggling.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
His back's quite injo.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I think he's going to take that extended break that
you mentioned and to come out and make the third round,
and just doesn't surprise me. He's you know, he's been
playing through injury most of this year actually, and see
him the third round. I think his draw opened up
a little bit. But yeah, two five setters and just
an amazing competitor and and great to see Tomo still
(03:20):
just playing so well in singles and doubles.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Yeah, And he did say I saw him interviewed by
Stan Sport and he did say it was a pretty
hard match. He didn't necessarily love it because of how
much pain he was probably in. But I think he
said something when he won, something about his tick. When
he won, he pointed to it, being like.
Speaker 6 (03:41):
He's got the yeah, he knows, he'll tell you that
he's got Yeah, he's so he's sort of renowned for
coming back from the jaws of defeat, even in juniors.
I think I had, you know, maybe match points against
him in under twelves and he got me down in Dingley.
I still remember that one vividly. But is never out
(04:05):
of it, And twenty years later he is still pulling
off great comebacks and great to see that. I feel
like he's really just having a resurgence late in his
career and singles and doubles, As I mentioned, there's not
too many playing well in both, so great to see.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Well, I'm really hoping that he's scheduled for a good
Australia time watch in his next Yeah, first time would
be great because I'd like to watch. We also had
Fritz defeat Diallo. He has played the seven of the
past eight days, four consecutive to win Eastbourne, one travel day,
three consecutive at Wimby.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Yes, that's massive, that is massive.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The reason he played three consecutive at Wimby is because
the Wimbledon curfew, And so he was into the fourth
set against Yes and Peshi Pericard and he's down five
to one in that tiebreak, so two pointson going out
in four sets, squeaked out that for set, came back
the next day, beat in Pestial Para Card and then
beat Diello in five and Diello had just won one
of the grass court lead ups, so another huge server.
(05:07):
That's yeah, Fritz's has got some real speaking of hearts
and real grit doing that boat back to back five
setters against really powerful opponents who were dangerous on grass.
Speaker 8 (05:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
I think for one of the top seeds, he's probably
had the toughest draw som My Pesti Pera Card and
I think he broke the record for the fastest serve
at Winwood three.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Fritz was returning it was like pretty much on baseline.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Or like ter wow, yeah, because of the power.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, and I thought that was really I'd be.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So scared I'd just run away. Well well yeah, like
that's what is.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That in one hundred and fifty three miles? Is what
in kilometers? Like we're a metric.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
Insane na.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Yeah, but he won the point.
Speaker 5 (05:51):
He won the point because yeah, he blocked it back.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
That's that's fine. I wonder how his elbow is.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
It's just such a good effort from Fritz and there
playing seven of eight days, winning in five sets both
matches at Wimby.
Speaker 7 (06:05):
So amazing, great ticker.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
But do you think that's better than doing like a
five set of one day, having a day off five
set of whereas like you can break break it over
like a couple of days where you don't have to
get out and practice, you're just waking up and still playing.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Yeah, I mean I think it was two sets, or
wasn't it. And then he came out and played the
fifth set. And I'm sure he probably would have rather
a rest day after winning Eastbourne the week before. But no,
as you sort of mentioned, staying in the rhythm, it
is probably something to value as well, and just a
great comeback there. And I think Mapeshi Pericard little fun fact,
(06:45):
who was one of the maybe the only person to
lose in five sets at the Aussie Open this year
and not generate one break point. So it's definitely he
definitely served some rockets and take some cuts on returns
and they don't always go in.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
So but yeah, great effort from Fritz.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
And then we've had the Brits cause some big upsets
as well overnight. So Radikanu defeated von Drusiva six three
sixty three. She was the twenty twenty three champ, and
Nori defeated Tiafo, the twelfth seed four six six four
six three seven five. When I went to bed last night,
I thought Tiafo had it in the bag. When I
(07:28):
woke up and realized that he had lost, I was
quite shocked.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
By that as well.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
And Radakanu beating Dondrusiva was not on my bingo card either.
Speaker 8 (07:39):
Well, it was that. Actually I debate whether that's an upset.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Rajakanu beating Bondrushieva just because they're both Grand Slam champions,
they've both been in the top ten. Rajakanu's got a
history of playing well at Wimbledon, and von Drusheva peaked
too early her history. No, this is the thing everyone's like.
She always comes and does huge results when no one's
expecting it. But she won Berlin, so she was coming
in as a torn favorite. We had people we interviewed
that said von Drushev as their pick to win the
(08:03):
whole thing. Again, She's never been in that position in
her life. Everything big she's done has come when no
one predicted her to do it. So if you've beat
Sablenka to win Berlin and you're on center court, you're
a favorite now. And she got beaten in straight sets
against a player that's been there and done it herself before.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I feel like von Druceva. Yeah, twenty twenty three, Champ,
and I think exactly what you said. Sometimes players play
better when they're away from the limelight. No one was
expecting her to win that one, and now coming in
with form on center court, now there's expectations. So I
think Radakanu she definitely is destined for a run here
and Cam Nurray been struggling a little bit the last
(08:42):
probably twelve months.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Or so, but he's been less on the radar for
a bit.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Less on the raid.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I think he slipped to almost outside the top hundred,
and the thing that I love about him, former semi
finalist at Wimbledon, but just plugs away, just keeps ticking
away and grind it. I think he's probably close to
thirty and just still working as hard as ever. And
I feel like it just shows that if you keep
your head down and keep working hard, that the results
(09:08):
might not initially come, but if you've got to trust
the process and and trust that the results will come.
And I feel like his testament to that.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
And he did a bit better at Roland Garros this
year as well, didn't he. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I remember thinking, oh, I didn't he expect to see.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
He beat Mede?
Speaker 8 (09:24):
Yeah that's right.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Did you we there when that was Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
that was that was unexpected. So yeah, like, oh yeah,
of course you've been top ten before.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
That's when I kind of was like, oh, yeah, you're yeah, yeah,
which is good to see. Yeah, we've got some big
news too, that twenty two seeded players have lost round one,
so it's an open erar record at Wimbleden. It's been
pretty crazy to kind of watch some of the people
we expected not to fall fall, And we also saw
(09:57):
Palini defeated by Rack him over that right, and Lahechka
and Schneider also out, So Lahechka ranked twenty three, Schneider twelve,
Paolini number four, So we are seeing some big things occur.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
A couple of days.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Really has Every morning I'm waking up and be like,
oh my god, yep, yeah on the grip chat.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
But the first thing I do is check yeah, check
the check the ut, check the scores, and then you're like, oh,
I think what was crazy though?
Speaker 8 (10:28):
About the twenty two seeds.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I mean, yes, it's not maybe not a surprising to
lose like the twenty ninth seed in the first round,
but when it's Zverev and Goff and Pagoula, like top
ten players going out, that was not expecting that at all.
I think there were four top ten seeds that went
out of both the men and the women, so that's
eight top ten players. That's like a Grand Slam record
or something. So yeah, it was the nate. I think
(10:51):
the nature of the names that went out, and then
year Paolini made the final. Last year Lahechka had just
made the Queen's Final. Yeah, there's like even Nori we
were talking about before, because so many Lehchka has gone out.
So he now plays Matia Balucci for his place in
the fourth round, which is for him. Yeah, so all
of these players. Yeah, with seeds going out, opportunities open
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up for other people, and yeah, it'll be fascinating to
see who takes advantage.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
We will talk more on that because I think Jamie
you might have some elements of that on what caught
your eye. But Matt, would you like to give us
an Aussie update of what's been happening?
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Just here, just here, just over the.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Page if you follow the agenda. Yes, So seventeen started
in the main draw. Did you guys know this was
the best since nineteen ninety five?
Speaker 5 (11:39):
I did see that.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, that's crazy. So yeah, thirty year old Australia go Australia.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Helped by what you'll talk about, Luke Rahampton for em
qualifying to join and we know what. Yeah so, but
Jordan was the only one to survive on day one.
A lot of our players had some really tough. Really
my joint had to play. Sorry she was day two,
but there were players that were drawing seas and there
were yeah, there were some really tricky draws. Tali Gibson
had Osaka. You know, there were understandable, understandable defeats. But
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then we kind of recovered on day two and got
four winners through Casaquina, demon Or, Hi Jakarta, and Vukic.
For Vukic, that sets up a second round match with
world number one Yanick Sinner, which will be incredible, no
credible opportunity, but yeah, not the best, not the best,
and out there Ki Jakarta you could say, yeah, maybe better,
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but he's got Ben Shelton, the tenth seed next, also tough,
also really really tough.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Alex Bolt played first round.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Yes, and pushed him quite tough. Yeah, well and he did.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, so maybe he maybe Rinky can get some tips
off Balty. I'm not sure if that's how that works,
but you never know. It wouldn't hurt. Kasakina has Arena
Camillia beg you in round two. She's our highest ranked
Australian female player. She's sixteenth seed and has a history
of doing well at Wimbledon. So you know, interesting to
see how Dasha will go. So and Alex Demanor next
plays Artur Kazzo, who beat in five sets Adam Walton
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in the first round. So he's showing all of those
Australians that were in the draw they had the potential
to play each other. But yeah, Demon Demon looking a
bit better after you know, taking a bit of a
break and losing first round in Queens, coming back to
a place where he's done really well and starting to
find it again. So yeah, lots so yeah, five stelling
singles and we had some great winners in the doubles overnight,
my joint and Kimberly Berrel playing together.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so good.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
But yeah, that's a cool all assie duo. You know,
Billy jinkin Cup teammates as well, so that's really nice.
As you would know, Luke like a huge ossy presence
in the men's side in the doubles, which is where
we've done We've had a history of doing so well
at Wimbledon in doubles. So yeah, lots of you know,
even if the singles, you know less in the singles
still happening, but still five there and lots still look
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forward to in doubles, so it's a pretty healthy picture
in the first couple of days at the time.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
John Pears and Maddie Ebden will be playing tonight and
Reenky had a great win overnight as well, eleven nine
in the couple match.
Speaker 7 (13:58):
Yeah, time breaks.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
So he actually reached out to me because Lee too
and I played those guys at the Strain Open.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
They sent me into retirement, so I was.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
Happy that he got some revenge.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
So, yes, I've seen it, Texan. It was my it
was my scouting.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
Of course, you are a coach Extraordan.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
Now yeah, some would say no.
Speaker 8 (14:26):
But in this case yes.
Speaker 6 (14:29):
So it's great to see we're obviously so strong in doubles,
and to see Meyer and Kim as well, and I
think we Yeah, I'm not sure if Jordan's playing doubles
as well.
Speaker 8 (14:39):
Well, that's got to be TVC, right, I would think so.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
With his injury and in the third round the singles,
the singles is still his priority, so I guess we
can wait and see on that one.
Speaker 7 (14:48):
But we're always are very strong the doubles.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Well, that's all really exciting.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I definitely will be tuning in tonight to watch a
Demino up against Kazo eight pm Australian Eastern Standard Time,
Channel nine or check out stands Sport if demon Or defeats,
because tonight he could face Djokovic in the fourth round,
which is a replay of what happened last year, which
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he obviously couldn't play due to his hip injury. But
so far he's looking great and let's hope he gets there.
Whoever his opponent ends up.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Being, yeah, definitely some tough names floating around in that section.
Thomas Mahawk is a very check player. Twenty first c
could be his third round opponent if you're kind of
looking at who could come up. But yeah, Djokovic looming
in the fourth round, which was that quarter final that
never happened at.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Wimbledon last year.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It was a real I was a real shame for
Alex Citd he never got that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
So we're going to have a quick look at the
fantasy draft and see where we're sitting guys. To fill
you in, we are a couple of weeks back now.
We did the fairnessy last week. It feels like a
couple of weeks we did the fantasy draft between myself,
Levi from our data team who is a statistician, and Dan,
who's one of our writers here and needs not doing well.
(16:07):
So we will run through where we're at in our
fantasy draft. So team Levi had our Cris Sable, Anca Keys,
and Bublick. Bublick is already out, which I think surprised
quite a few of us with the run he's been having.
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Definitely surprising.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, so I thought Levi I had quite a good
pick there.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
My team is Andreva, Draper, Sinner and Paulini with Paulini out.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And I am still impressed by my team.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'd like to say thanks.
Speaker 7 (16:38):
Team defend finalists, Yeah, they're unlucky.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
And then team Dan, who is currently in autumn place,
is Rebeccna, Djokovic, Goff and Lahechka, And obviously he's lost
GoF and Lahechka.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So I'm going to ask all of you which team
would you pick?
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Your team? Very hundred thought so.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Yours and Levis is good. I think Hechka and Public
that's pretty unlucky. I don't mind those as outsiders, especially
Public winning Hola the Hetchka making the final queens. So yeah,
I think for being the twenty eighth and twenty third seed.
They're good outsiders. A little unlucky there, Paulini, as I said,
defending finalists, So a little bit unlucky there. And GoF
(17:24):
I was expecting more because a tough first round, especially
on the grass, and you know, she plays aggressive, she
plays big and golf, she's she's very aggressive, very explosive,
and finals here. Yeah, and it's tougher to defend on
the grass, which Coco is so good at doing, as
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we saw at the French Open in Paris.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
So tough one there, but yeah, I think you've done well.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Bray, thank your teacher in the celebrity, but I'm sorry
to be I would take team Late purely from a
selfish perspective.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Alcoraz and Sabalinka were both my title but he got
the first pick. Yeah, well exactly, do you know what
it was? And it was not my favorite.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
This is a real well little not can't be under
the radar. She won the AO, but she's in Sabalinka's quarterut,
so that would be a blockbuster quarter final. He's so
good on grass, so I think any of those three.
Speaker 8 (18:17):
Could win it.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So yeah, we went on Drever.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I wouldn't put on drever as a favorite ahead of
Sabalinka or Keys No god no no, so no, okay,
cool but sinner great one in your in your team.
Draper is a fascinating one, don't we think? Like we
didn't actually get to see the full picture of how
well he started off very well with his opponent Sebastian
Bayas withdrew from their first round match. But the talk
(18:43):
about Draper was how will he cope with the hometown expectations,
being a top five seed and being put on all
these big courts for the first time.
Speaker 8 (18:51):
Looked good to start, so that would be a huge story.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And I feel like the paparazzi a following him everywhere
in wimbled and at the moment because we've seen all
the photos that are everywhere.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Him, like filling his car petrel.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Let him just put some petrol in the car, but
also keep sharing the photos because they great and keep
winning for teen three exactly, Draper, keep doing it. We
just want to do a quick couple of shout outs
for some players who potentially all have confirmed that they
are playing their last Wimbledon. So Petra Kaviva, second time champion,
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was handed a world card. She lost to Navarro and
she will finish up this year after the US Open,
so sad to see her career end. And then also
Fabio Fognini, thirty eight year old hasn't wont to match
this season. Rather than a ten match losing street, he
pushed our Karaz to five sets in round one. We
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did see him crying in the locker rooms afterwards. Believe
this is his last Wimbledon, right, our Karaz gifted him
his shirt postmatch for his son Federico, who quite likes Okaras.
So it looks like that might have been his last
Wimbed and from his actions that we watched, and obviously
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not yet, but gaumon Fis has rumored that he might
be his last Mimudim. We're not sure of that yet
because he did just you know, beat Umbert in a
typical five set classic.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
But I mean, what a win in the first round
in five sets against Umbert. Didn't he just make the
he's great on grass and he was a seed, like
grass isn't mon fee surface of choice. Typically he's more
you know, great at Roland Garroson on hardcourt. So I
was really surprised by that result. But it's just amazing
how he's enduring and his age still so so good
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over five sets and can push the world's best players
and beat them.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
I think it's staggering what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Incredible. Did you see the warm up video.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I think he was hitting with Spiderlina and she was
just absolutely smacking the ball and he's like shanking every
ball and she's like going fast and he's just standing
there just trying to warm up.
Speaker 5 (21:02):
I thought that was funny.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
I don't know, Well, maybe she got him into a groove.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Probably.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I think they've been hitting this week because another there
was definitely one from overnight. I reckon they've been doing
that more than once on the practice courts there. It's
working for both of them.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Right, Let's move on to what's caught your eye.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So this is our segment where we talk about the
things that have caught our eye this week. Luke Yep
over to you.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, obviously, I was just in London back a little
bit earlier than expected. I was there with Dasher who
went down, but I was able to stay around and
watch the rest of the qualifying at Roehampton, as we know,
is off site.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
It's not at the EW England club.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So how far away is it from the England?
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Three or four k's about to drive, So there's something
in that where yeah, look, it's it's tough you're not
on site, but something very special when you do qualify
and you earn that right to sort of go into
the locker room and walk around Wimbledon. So I was
there and I feel like for me and my passagor
and Jamie can also talk to this qualifying there three
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times and I just have such amazing memories and when
Ozzie's qualify for Winmwood and it's just something so special
about it and just walk around on that last day
and a good mate Lee too went down in four
sets to Manorino but played very very well. Manorino's in
the third round now and James McCabe also getting through
and that was great to see him. And another one
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of our very promising prospects, Tarlie Gibson getting through and
I think the woman that she beats last round, excuse me,
got lucky loser as in the third round beat Katie Bolter.
Oh was it Sarah? Yeah, So fantastic win there Alex
Bolt as well. My good mate just grows an extra
foot on grass courts, and as we mentioned earlier, played
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a great match against Ben Shelton and Prihn also getting
through saving five match points. So I think for me,
it's just seeing Ozzie's qualify. I've got amazing memories. I
remember my first year, I was playing on the end
court and had about fifteen Australians coach and players watching me,
and in my fifth set they will changing ends with me.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
That's so cool.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
So I saw to get goosebumps thinking about that. And
I save match points in two of my last rounds,
so any in five, all three were in five.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
So that's the thing that's unique about Wimbledon qualifying, isn't
it that they making the men's third round. They go
to best of five sets instead of three, so you
get kind of a main draw or taste.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I guess the best of five in the men And
also watching Maddy English, she lost to Petro Martch first
round in a brutal third set super tire break. It's
very stiff because Maddie was playing great. And of course
Emerson Jones making the last round, losing to Diane Parry
who's also in the third round. They beat Martyach first
round and beat Schneider twelve seed six four six one.
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So that's my little spill Roehampton something special about it.
And I guess, Jamie, do you think that it played
off site? Does that make it extra special for qualifiers
when you do get on site.
Speaker 5 (24:00):
Yeah, I think it does.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
There's just something about Rahampton where it's where you grind,
It's where you get yourself through those three matches to
be able to have the privilege to play on site,
to be able to walk into the doors and be like, yep,
I qualified for my first slam, my third slam, my
fifth Slam. So yeah, it's always really special. And the
year that I actually qualied, my younger sister came overseas
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and she came towardch me play that year. Oh and
I forgot to tell her that qualis isn't at Wimby.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Oh we got there. We rocked up to Rahampton.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
I was like, oh, Chrissy, welcome to the cricket field,
like this is what we play. And I was like,
my goal this week is to to be able to
take her on site. Because I was very lucky, like
I got to play juniors and played in main draw,
so I got to play in the courts and be
around that. But for her, like you watch it on
TV and you're like, I would love to show her
what it's like. So yeah, to be able to go
there was really special. And to be able to win
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three Collies matches and be like, okay, we're leaving the
cricket field now we're onto the big stage. So yeah,
it also holds a special place.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
In my heart.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And yeah, that year I collied, I actually had to
borrow Ellen Presa's shoes and her skirt, so I had
shoes that were half sized too big, and then I
didn't have a white skirt because we're white, so yeah,
I had to borrow her skirt too, and I had
a top that had like clay on it.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
So yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
Love But the place has really come along. It's much
different now there's a few center courts. It's ticketed, so
it's definitely a lot more official if you like there,
and yeah, it starts.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
To feel like an actual college slang.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
Yeah, and I feel like for me it's so special
because there's a real Aussie contingent there, even staff as well,
a lot of tense Australia staff, and it's a.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
White well, there's no one in the building right now,
so I'm pretty sure they are.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
Yeah, And just when it's away from our shores and
just seeing that, you know, Assie's get around each other,
that's what I find very special. And just the desperation
as well. I was sort of laughing last round of qualities.
You just if you want to see desperate tennis players
go to the last round of qualities for Wimbledon, because
they just as Jamie alluded to, you fighting to get
into that main draw, and you kind of feel like
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it's not that you're not a player, but you have
to earn that right to get into the main draw
rather than hear at the austrain and Open or the
other three Slams. You're at least playing on site in
the qualities. But as you said, Brie, it's you've got
to preserve the grass courts, so you can't play on site.
And I think if you get through and you haven't,
your matches haven't been too long. You have great preparation
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going into into the main draw. And we see quite
a few qualifiers in the third round, so I think
grass court practice and matches is invaluable.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
Yeah, and is the true you're undefeated at Roehampton.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Is that the stat Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (26:54):
I lost in junior's there, but.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
It doesn't it's like a juvenile crime that gets wiped
on once you hit eighteen.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Yeah, so yeah, I am under Why do I know
about that?
Speaker 6 (27:08):
So yeah, I am undefeated at roeham Not many posts
could say that. So fourteen to oh because I qualified
three times and then I won a future there two
years ago on the.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Gas, Yeah, because how's it? Fourteen to oh because you
qualified three times? But that's right, there's the other if
twenty it.
Speaker 7 (27:25):
Was days prior to this year, I might have said
it's dash.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
I was like, you, we have to go seventeen to zero,
like you can't do and she said, I know you're joking,
but that really does apply a lot of pressure to me.
And then sure enough for fourteen and one now, so
I have I've let her know countless.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Time over thing.
Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, we might move on to Jamie before Luke gets
into trouble.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
What caught your eye?
Speaker 9 (27:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:52):
I think the thing that caught my eye the last
week or week and a half, because this kind of
goes back to the tournaments before Wimby is the amount
of round one losses to the players that have won
the week before. So yeah, my joint Paula Greek Sport
and Fritz, Well, Fritz are still going strong, so he's
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our only that it's still going.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
But yeah, just more the thoughts around.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
You see a lot of the top players now not
playing the week before and getting to Wimby or like
each Slam quite early to be able to prepare themselves
mentally and physically for the two weeks of playing grand
some tennis. So yeah, it's been quite interesting to see
the amount of players that choose to go play or
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not play, And I think, yeah, I'm not sure what
you guys think around that loop.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
I think the ideal preparation is to take that week
off prior see or the top players, but they are
able to because the points at two fifties are almost
not worth putting onto their rankings, so they'd rather just
go in fresh. But I think there's probably two things here. Firstly,
I think the depth in the game is at its
absolute highest right now, so twenty two seeds out first round.
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I think it's just the sheer depth of our game
right now, and there's no round that's safe for these seeds.
I mean We've seen Fritz's draw and a lot of
the top seeds go out, so I think there's there's
that one. And then I think it's just the physicality
and the length of the season as well, and it's
pretty brutal. I mean that we've spoken countless times about
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you know, even Alex after the French Open, I needed
to take some time off and he's played one grass
caught match Lee into Wimbledon, which I think is probably
a first for him. Usually plays her tongue on Bosh
Queens and unfortunately when out first round of Queens. So
it's just I think it's that challenge of trying to
manage yourself throughout a very heavy season.
Speaker 7 (29:47):
So that are my two points on why.
Speaker 6 (29:49):
There's probably more sort of upsets in the first round
of Slams.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I think it's also quite tough coming from like a
tournament the week before where you have one d to
figure everything out. You have to get your quotation, You've
got to organize transportation or the logistics, and like, even
though Wimby is small, like it's still quite big where
you need to go for things. It can be on
the other side of the park or you need to
get to the practice course and it kind of takes
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a lot out of.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
You, like have you got your mentor right mental and physically.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
So yeah, I think some of these players maybe not
playing the before or some like it, some don't.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
So I think it's dependent on and we discussed it
because I was thinking about Maya Joint with.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
The French as well.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So yeah, she had won in the lead up and
then came in, went out round one, and then the
same things happened to her again here at Budden and
I was kind of saying to Matt and the guys, like,
it's great that she just won, Like is it better
to not to take that tournament off to go into
a Slam more rested.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, I don't think it's bad at all for Joint,
specifically because she lost to sam Sonova, who was the
nineteen seed, who's you know, eight player on grass, and
I think it made Berlin semi so. And she lost
to Tom Lanovitch in the first round of Rolling Garros,
who's no slash either. I would think my Joint wouldn't
mind now having two WTA titles in her ranking. She's
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now at forty in the world. But it is a
tough turnaround definitely, because there's also that high of winning
a title and then having to come down and reset,
and that whole thing in tennis that you never get
a chance to enjoy your successes because it's onto the
next thing. Ye, But there's also the question. There's also
the fact that that grass specifically throws up unusual results.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
It's only a five week season.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Players unusually have to play the week before Wimbledon because
you know, you have to play the week before the
French because you've had two months of clay, but you
have to play the with That's why all the Aussie
a lot of people play the week before the Australian
Open because there's only been one week of tournaments. You
need matches, and so many players don't have games that
suit grass. They have grips, they have court positioning that
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are not suited to it. They've never played. We're lucky
in Australia, like you guys have access to grass courts
in reach areas or at junior level. There'd be so
many players in Europe and South America and other Asia
that have never set foot on a grass court until
they became pro. So that adds another layer and I
think a lot of them probably feel the need to
chase matches and time on grass because what the hell
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am I doing on it?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
Well, Mayers, she's won fifty five matches this year. I wow, yeah,
Wowbanka she's on forty seven. So the amount of matches
that Maya's played two weeks before the Slam, like, that's great.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, yeah, but yeah, I know, I think in Maya's case, Yeah,
I don't personally think that was bad. She'll be really
disappointed because it was a great opportunity, but yeah, she's
had tough draws and it's all part of that learning.
She'll probably in a couple of years get to the
point where she doesn't need to play the week before
Slam because she's she might not do it.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (32:49):
So yeah, that was a great result in Xborn.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
May on Fire, Myron Fire on Fire.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
Yeah, loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Well, we might continue with you, Matt, because you had
some observations with some comments from Pegoula.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, well, I just think she articulated something that is
kind of I think we've all known, but no one's
ever really discussed it that openly and pressed and had
that conversation with journalists about the difference in formats men
get to play best of five and women only play
best of three at Grand Slams. Actually, I think we
have the clip of Jess Pagola talking about this following
her first round loss to Eliza Better Cocciaretto at Wimbledon.
Speaker 8 (33:28):
Yeah, let's see what she said.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
I think it's harder to win two out of three
than it is to win three out of five, and
not physically obviously, but I think it always is going
to cater the better player in the long run if
you're playing three out of five. So I think you'd
see a lot more upsets of top players if men
played two out of three and slams, where.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
With two players that have played Grand Slams before best
to three best of five. What do you guys think
when you hear Jesspogola say what she said? Have you
ever thought about that?
Speaker 10 (33:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (33:57):
I sort of agree with what she's said. It's one
hundred percent of different mentality. You're going into a best
of five than a best of three. You know, you
feel like you can lose the first set in the
best of five and your opponent's still got two to win,
whereas and then watching that exact match the other night
and Dasher, my wife said, I think when was down
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to set in the break, she said, if this match
was best of five, the goal is probably a very
good chance to come back and win this one and
then sure enough. In their press conference, she said that,
so I think the best of five, it's definitely a
tradition in Grand Slams.
Speaker 7 (34:33):
A lot of the people will say that.
Speaker 6 (34:35):
I sort of agree that's it's pretty long, and I
think the physicality in the in the mental aspect is amazing,
but it's a long time. So I think exactly what
she's saying is is spot on. I think women probably
don't need to play five. If anything, the men come
back to best of three, and I mean if it
was best of three, I would have never qualified for Wimbledon.
(34:57):
So I'm definitely a bit biased, but completely change everything,
change a lot.
Speaker 8 (35:03):
It would.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Do you like the idea of playing five, Jamie, or like,
what do you think when you hear just say that?
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I think I kind of agree with Luke, but my
person opinion like I've always wanted to play best of five,
so I think that would be cool to have that
opportunity to do it. But mentally physically, I think it
would be quite tough knowing how long my match is
go for that would go way longer, it would be
it'd be quite boring by the end of it.
Speaker 5 (35:29):
But yeah, I feel like also the.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Lower ranked players that are beating the high ranked players,
they're not able to back up another win, and I think.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
That would be part of it. Also.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I don't know, like you kind of see a lot
of these girls kind of beat a high ranked players
where they can play for sixty minutes, lights out, but
they're not being able to back it up and again.
And I think that's where in a five set match,
someone that is high ranked would kind of be able
to overcome that.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, So I think we saw that with Alcarez. I
reckon that the match we discussed when he played Fognini
that went five. Now, no one expected that to be
as tight as it was, but Alcarez talked about being
very very nervous stepping out as that defending champion position
on the first match of the day on Monday on
Sena Court and Fongnini, And yeah, if that had been
three Setsgnini well, according to the set so Alcarez won
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the two out of the first three, so he would
would but he might have been more nervous because he
didn't have as much time, and he always had in
the back of his mind. I just need to get
it to a fifth set against thirty eight year old
Folgnini who can't move as well.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
And we saw the we saw the final score was
six one. He outlasted in physically.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
He wouldn't have had that advantage in three sets, and
Fognini would have known I only have to last three.
I can tree for sixty minutes, which he was kind
of doing. He was playing great against a potentially more
nervous Alcaraz. That result could have been different.
Speaker 6 (36:52):
But to here everyone sort of say, for example, beating
Rafa over three, like best of three sets on clay
is possibly doable. Best of five at the French Open,
it's very much impossible.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
Yeah, most impossible. Yeah it's on clay.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think maybe it was injured a couple
of times, but I think that and Djokovic as well.
I don't think you would have had twenty four slams.
But you can go on and on. But I think
these guys are so good over five and you can
almost pace yourself a little bit and you actually have
to do that best of five if you come out
and I think my first couple of best of five's,
I was jogging out of the shells, sprinting, I was
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ripping come ons in the first set, and I crammed
by the third set. So you've got to learn to
actually pace yourself a bit. It's a different, different way
of going about it.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
I think we probably like the idea of women getting
boosted to three out of five is probably impossible from
a scheduling perspective, only until later in the tournament though,
when it's the final and the semis and you're not
competing against anyone else on the schedule, it's your day.
Maybe maybe three out of five for the women, I'm
not sure. Maybe not what just once, but yeah, it's
just it.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I don't think it's going to happen though with it,
because they'd want to.
Speaker 5 (38:01):
It would have to be a three week event.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Yeah, right, five If it was going to be five sets,
the way it would have to get an extra week.
Speaker 8 (38:08):
That's a pretty big ask.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Both big fascinating stuff, but he is, you want to
keep pondering, maybe we could go and look at what
the rankings would be if we just took the first
three cents. Maybe let's not because we might cause some dramas.
But moving over to what caught my I just you know,
Stephanos sisipass greatly loved by the fans in Australia, very
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very loved player here in OZ. But he did come
out this week with a quote saying I have a limit.
I would definitely have to make a final decision of
whether I want to keep going or not in the
next few months. I see this going the same direction.
There's no point of competing. So he had to retire
from his round one at Wimbledon. He has a back
(38:52):
injury which has been kind of on and off since
twenty twenty three. We haven't seen him playing his best
or playing to what I think everyone thinks his potential
is for I would say quite some time now, maybe
over a year. And early news this morning allegedly him
(39:12):
and Bedoza have also broken up, so a bit of
stuff going on in the Sissypas camp. He's also recently
changed his racket. He's also changed his coach. He's now
with Goren.
Speaker 6 (39:24):
I think that's possibly a bit of an emotional few
quotes there, like straight off the match and it's it's
been disappointing. His his season, no doubt his worst since
twenty seventeen, his debut season. So I think he won
Du Bay earlier this year with a babble at racket,
(39:44):
but now it's it's been blacked out. I think he's
gone back to the Wilson So it's been possibly.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I remember we some stuff about that on the pod.
When that happens, be.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
Interested, Like you won a title with in Iraq, clearly
it was clicking.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
That could be going back to think three sets, like
everything could be going really well in those three sets
instead of it being over.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
Interesting and then we're probably talking contracts and he might
have been contracted to Wilson and all that sort of thing.
Speaker 7 (40:10):
But interesting here as well.
Speaker 6 (40:12):
Rumors they'll work on a two handed back end, And
Jamie and I were chatting off air, and she said,
is his one handed back had really that bad? And
I mean, he's made a number of Grand Slam finals.
Is still a great backhand. But I think that's probably
just rumors, but tough to see where he's going. I
think Gore and Ivanizovich should be great for him, a
(40:35):
good influence, and I think tennis is better when sits,
passes up and running. He's great, great for the game
and hopefully most importantly him and Butos who can work
things out.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
And I would like them to work things out because
I really like the content they do together.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
It's really good.
Speaker 8 (40:52):
But it is just you're right. He is a great
character for me.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
He's great, like, plays a really interesting way, feel a
different character, different energy on the tour. Isn't the theory
that he's never been the same after losing the two
sets to love lead against Jokovic in the French Open final,
Like he's never his results have declined since then. I
think there's a theory or a belief that he's never
kind of completely like he's been changed ever since that
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still great.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
Might still be in there and just say like that
this is his worst season so far, like you're always
going to have a lull, Like there's always to be
able to sustain top ten, top five, it's hard, Like
it's tough, and I feel like maybe they don't get
enough credit as serve like to be able to be
that high for so long.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Oh, his consistency is crazy, Like when he fell out
of the top ten this year, I think that he'd
been in the top ten for five years without.
Speaker 8 (41:45):
It a leading it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
But what what do you both think about his He
keeps talking about this injury, but he keeps playing. He's
never taken any time off, So what do you think
about that? In terms of schedule management, If you're battling
an injury, why are you playing a full schedule?
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, especially with backs, have you BA issue, It can
be tough, Like it can be mentally tough. I think
outside of life, your back will hurt. When you're on
the court, your back will hurt. So it's something you
always think about. You kind of get consumed in this
world of like my back.
Speaker 8 (42:15):
Thinking about the pain.
Speaker 4 (42:16):
Yeah, I think about the pain. So yeah, that's an
interesting question. I don't know why he hasn't taken six
months or four months off to be able to understand
because Badosa is also going through back problems.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
Yeah, surely they speak about it, takes time off.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, she has had time off.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
I'm sure maybe they're not talking about it, or I
think with tennis there's always a tournament the next week
and very important with injuries to take like a long
term approach with injuries, and like for him, he probably
always wants to play there might be appearance money for tournaments,
and we've got these mandatory events with the Masters Series.
Speaker 7 (42:51):
So I think it's it's always easier.
Speaker 6 (42:54):
Said than done, but to take that time off to
get it right and then someone is talented and and
as good as Steph, you know, I feel like if
he can get healthy again and he hopefully can get
back inside the top ten and make.
Speaker 7 (43:07):
Up that money rather than just laying and playing.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
So isn't that why you have someone in your team
to be like, hold on, this isn't working. Like we've
gone through this cycle time and time again. Okay, you
need to change something or you need to stop for
a period of time to get there.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
That's what I was.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Just thinking, because I wonder if Goraan, being the new
person that comes in, says exactly that, and then maybe
there's a different approach.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Okay, well that wraps us from what caught your eye.
We're gonna jump to a break and then we'll be
right back with you. So we wanted to kick off
with a little bit of a chat that is bubbling away,
and Luke, you wanted to have a bit of a
chat about are we facing a mental health crisis on tour?
Speaker 6 (43:51):
Yeah, I think, you know, obviously, Dasha a few weeks
ago came out and said she was coming home after
Paris and just struck with a bit of motivation and enjoyment.
And I think since then there's been a few more
sort of coming out and Alexi Popper and Sasha's whereof
after their matches, Caspar Rude a few months ago, Alex
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Demonar a little bit after French as well. So it
comes back to a pretty brutal season, pretty brutal schedule calendar.
And I think when Poparin came out after his match
a couple of days ago and had those quotes and
then Thatsh just sort of went off and produced that
video that's been circling around, and I think, you know, obviously,
(44:38):
I have complete supportive of Dasher, and I think it's
very brave that she's coming out and sort of voicing
her opinion and whatnot. And I think it's very easy
to keep continue to play and not sort of face
how you're feeling a little bit. So she's come out
and she's doing well, and we'll take some weeks off
and hopefully head over to the US, but we're not
going to rush that process, and we just really want
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her to get that happiness back in satisfaction to go
out and hit tennis balls and compete. So I think
she's gee, she's been going a long time dasher and
had some serious injuries that she's come back from. So
he's shown so much fight, but it's probably just catching
up to her a little bit. So I think, you know,
possibly the tours ATP and WTA could do a better
(45:20):
job of recognizing recognizing this current issue because it's it's
a real thing. The tour is tough, and I'm not
saying that a lot of people aren't going through difficulties,
but I think it's just I think Dasha coming out
and a few coming out it's sort of open the
door for more to voice their opinions. So I think
it's a good thing to discuss.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
So many players are seeing other players talking about it.
As you said, what Alexi said resonated with me. I
can share my story. Osaka has done the same thing. Yeah,
Ash Barty was quite a famous example of like you know,
I'm burning out, I'm taking time away in business, Andrescu's
another one. Took so many women inside inside it doesn't matter.
There's so many examples of it now, whereas five ten
(46:04):
years ago this wasn't happening.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
So I'm so lady people are talking about it.
Speaker 8 (46:09):
The conversation so so crucial.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
It sounds like we need more mental health awareness for
our tennis athletes, and I'm sure so many would be
supportive of that. We are going to delve even deeper
next week on this very topic with Dasher. We're swapping
Luke out next week for Dasha. The better version, the
better sable jokes. We love you both equally, But really
(46:32):
looking forward to that chat with Dasher to talk further.
We're going to jump into my top five. My top
five has been really driven by Igga showing how many
towels that she steals from Wimbledon.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
No, I just saw at the end there you've played
Wimbledon just a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
How many towels have you just put in your bag?
Speaker 1 (46:55):
So, like, I don't know clause is at home, but
there is a bit.
Speaker 4 (46:59):
Sex and it's like a topic that no one never
ever talks about, Like we love our towels.
Speaker 9 (47:05):
You know.
Speaker 6 (47:06):
Yeah, every time I come back from Alam, I think
I have like I don't know, ten friends and ten
members of my family wanting towels.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
So sorry, that's so good.
Speaker 3 (47:20):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
And then didn't she go on to say that she
had like I don't know tows like she needs a
special room like a big linen press for all of
her towels.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
From all of the tournaments around the world. I actually
love it. That's great.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
You know what, my friends they'll be like, do you
have any merch at the moment? Oh my, I lost
my AO you know bottle, do you have any more?
Like can they come over? Because you know, we just
end up with quite a bit, and I'm like, yeah, cool.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Take this, take that anyway. So how are going to
do it.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
We've got five topics, so five areas that you would
steal things from. We've got multiple choice, and you get
to choose what you'd steal from the hortible choice.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
So the first one is send caught the iconic stage.
You found yourself caught side after play wraps up. What
are you casually pocketing? A is a Wimbledon seat cushion,
but you're stealing it as someone stands up, so when
they turn around they.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Can't find it.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Yeah, yeah, b A few stray blades of the famous
wimbled and grass. So like you're going down to the
court and cutting some grass, popping it in a little
whatever you want, a little glass container. See a player's
towel from the side of the court midplay though, like
you know how they hang it over the court. Yep,
you're taking the yeah with that probably, but these are
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your choices, y and D. A tennis ball that bounces
into the stairs stands for our listeners normally have to
hand that ball back, but you pretend you haven't caught
it and you hide it so you don't have to
give it back.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
Those cameras everywhere, Yeah you could, yeah, but we would
be getting in so much trouble for all of it.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
So which would you choose? Tennis ball? Yeah, that feels
like a souvenir seat cushion.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'd go seat Christian, I think the seat chushion.
Speaker 5 (49:06):
Okay, it's cool, candy too.
Speaker 9 (49:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Oh do you know what I've never wanted one more
than at Roland Garrel sitting on those wooden planks that
they have you to sit on.
Speaker 3 (49:15):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Okay, two, we're going to be which is called Henman
Hill or Murray Mound, pending what generation you're from. So
you're soaking up the atmosphere with all the fans and
you want a cheeky memento. So here's our options. A
someone has a Wimbledon deck chair and you steal it.
B an abandoned picnic blanket that is wimbled and branded.
(49:42):
A Wimbledon hat taking off someone's head. That's number C
or D. A Wimburden program laying idle on someone else's
picnic road deck chair.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Yeah I'm leaning deck chair. But also as a person
that loves the publication program, maybe the program. I thought
you might have gone hat because someone said I do
like the hat. I actually know, I will say a
rolling garross. There was a Panama hat on the ground
when I was there, and I was just like, I've
always wanted one of those Panama hats.
Speaker 8 (50:11):
Done it where it had been been the dirt, and
I just took it.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
Do you still have it?
Speaker 6 (50:15):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
I don't know where it's been in, but I was.
Speaker 8 (50:17):
Thrilled to have it.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Okay, we're going to go with number three. We're now
in the queue.
Speaker 1 (50:22):
We probably should have started with the que but where
we're going start and with cue, so you know, the
ultimate fan tradition. So you've camped overnight. What are you
slipping away from or with from the queue? So a
your queue cud B A guide to the Q Handbook,
which is which is a thing?
Speaker 8 (50:43):
Who knew?
Speaker 1 (50:46):
See a Wimbledon branded umbrella that you've stolen from the
merch tent nearby and d an empty plastic bag someone
else's strawberries came in because.
Speaker 3 (50:55):
It's got a windled and logo on it.
Speaker 5 (50:58):
I'm going umbrella.
Speaker 3 (51:00):
You guys are going high.
Speaker 5 (51:01):
They Yeah, I've got a couple of them.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
Yeah, Q card.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
I reckon cue caudle the book, Yeah, I love it. Okay, great,
I've only got two more to go. Guys, you're a
pretty good thief. Someone say, Okay, we've gone to play
practice courts, really going about limbed in a weird way.
You're loitering practice slow key item, do you know? So
(51:28):
we've got an empty heavy arn bottle left behind by
a player the you're actually stealing the what do you
call it?
Speaker 3 (51:37):
The saliva.
Speaker 7 (51:39):
Drink?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Half backwashed drink from the tennis players backwash?
Speaker 5 (51:50):
But if you steal that, are you leaving it in
there forever?
Speaker 1 (51:53):
Actually using it forever? Be a player's racket controversial. See
a sweaty player wristband that's been left behind, or d
the plastic covers used to protect the courts from rain.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
One hundred percent racket.
Speaker 7 (52:14):
Yeah, it's all illegal and we can all pray on that.
So let's go for the racket.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Yeah, we are illegal. We're stealing.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
There's an exit near the practice courts, so.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
I love that you're already thinking about the exit route.
Speaker 4 (52:33):
Racket straight as long as the racket has like you know,
it has like the name of the player.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Yeah, our last one. We're now in the merch shop.
So now we are getting like high level shoplifting, shoplifting, shoplifting,
not just stealing people's items. So the first scene, do
we steal a a book which is called the Original
Rules of Tennis book the foreword by Tim Henman could
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be good. Be a pair of strawberry socks, which I'm
quite into it. They're quite cute and they.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
Do deliver to Australia. I realize today.
Speaker 1 (53:12):
See a Wimbledon and bloom tea towels pretty gross, I
would say, or d the most expensive thing in the shop,
which is the Championships twenty twenty five Silk Screen Official
poster with six hundred and seventy dollars.
Speaker 8 (53:30):
Oh and that's pounds not yes, so like a thousand bucks.
Speaker 6 (53:34):
Yeah, because they get a real rush, yeah yeah, real
rush uplifting something worth the grand I was going to ask,
can we gift these items?
Speaker 7 (53:48):
Were stealing?
Speaker 3 (53:49):
Or is that for an am straight to eBay? If
you want, you can do whatever you want with them.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
Boy, you've got you've come this far.
Speaker 9 (53:57):
Rules.
Speaker 3 (53:57):
It would be a good would be breaking actually by Tim.
That's a nice this week's guest the word by Tim
quite like the book. Although you sold me the strawberry socks.
Speaker 1 (54:10):
Strawberry socks are actually really cute. You need to get
on the side. I think I'm going to buy something, but.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Actually they have Wimby you know those like when you
get like a coffee or like a smoothie, and like
those cups those.
Speaker 3 (54:25):
I did have them on there like they're still a
recyclable cup.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
But it says I live at Wimbledon. All of those
came home with me.
Speaker 6 (54:34):
You brought a couple back when you're not supposed to
at all, because you actually don't have to really return them.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I think that's player you can take anything right. Well,
so yeah, I think we're fine. Great, well, thank you
for being fantastic thieves. I believe in all of you
you would be in my posse of steelers. Anyway, let's
move on from that. We're going to wrap up quickly
(55:07):
with Ace of the Week. The one good thing outside
of tennis can be tennis if you want. And then
we're done.
Speaker 7 (55:14):
We're done.
Speaker 8 (55:14):
Who wants to go first?
Speaker 5 (55:16):
Oh, Jamie, Yes, mine's coming here.
Speaker 4 (55:20):
Actually, so this is my first time I've left the
house in the week post surgery, so it's nice to
get out and socializes and see everyone.
Speaker 5 (55:28):
So yeah, might be being invited to come back here.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
Oh my god, I just wanted my cold cold heart.
Thank you for that. Brought some blood back to the vans.
That's really good. I'm glad, and I'm glad the operation
went well as well.
Speaker 6 (55:41):
Good to see you're are, Jamie. You probably feel the
tension between Jamie and I are today.
Speaker 2 (55:48):
Scar.
Speaker 7 (55:48):
We're just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
This is going to be a.
Speaker 6 (55:54):
Collingwood fans, so Colin aren't flying, but we usually get
up against the Pies, even if for a teenth, and
the Pie is the top.
Speaker 7 (56:01):
Will get up for that game.
Speaker 5 (56:02):
So are you going?
Speaker 7 (56:03):
I'm not going because I'm too scared.
Speaker 8 (56:08):
I want to be in public listeners.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
Carlton versus calling what the MCG is one of the
AFL blockbusters.
Speaker 8 (56:15):
That is traditional rivals.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
How many specting crowd to say how many teeth will be.
Speaker 8 (56:22):
But you could be getting like eighty or ninety thousand
to the MCG for that. That is a sporting art.
Speaker 7 (56:26):
It's always a great game, great rivalry.
Speaker 3 (56:27):
So looking forward, when's that on tomorrow Tomorrow night night?
Friday night? So Wimbledon or a f L will you
be watching.
Speaker 5 (56:37):
I'll be at the footy with Wimbledon on.
Speaker 1 (56:39):
Yeah, yeah, so you might have to double screen tomorrow night.
That seems like, So was that your ace of the
week that you might lose in af that is coming up?
Speaker 7 (56:50):
I thought we were enjoying one, to be honest on
the spot, so I got nothing.
Speaker 2 (56:56):
I'm just going to say. So it's my Auntie's sixtieth tonight,
which is always that. That's a big master. There's a
big family dinner at one of my favorite pubs in Melbourne,
the Park and that's a beautiful bub and you know
it's one of those ones, the dining room, the open fire.
I love a cozy pub in winter, so that will
be I don't know, Palma for dinner obviously a wild
night after that home to watch Whatever time I get
(57:18):
home them will have just started.
Speaker 8 (57:20):
So yeah, it'll be going straight in to watch Demon.
Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (57:24):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (57:25):
My ace of the week is that I'm just having
a friend of dinner on Friday night and we're doing
I where I am cooking her some one pan dishes.
Speaker 8 (57:35):
So you know how I've sent you, Matt Breeze an
excellent Genuinely.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
I am a good cook, but I'm also like a
TikTok cook sometimes, and my friend has been wanting me
to cook these like Tiktoks and Stasians. So I'm doing
the potato chip charcuterie baked board, which is just potato
chips and then you put three different cheeses meats drizzle
hot honey in in the oven.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, and I'm also doing the one.
Speaker 1 (57:58):
Pen noki, which is where you again use two cheeses,
you scatter it, then you place snocky around it, then
you scatter a cheese on top of it, put it in.
Speaker 3 (58:07):
You end up with like this wedge of nocki and cheese.
Speaker 5 (58:10):
So we're coming to.
Speaker 3 (58:13):
And then we're running for all of Saturday. It's not healthy.
Speaker 1 (58:20):
So that's what we're doing tomorrow night, just her and I.
She's bringing her dog, My dog and cat will be there.
We'll have a couple of wines and I'm going to
cook her the.
Speaker 3 (58:28):
Thing she's been wanting.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, so I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. But that
is the end of our show. It has been a
meaty one. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
Jamie Fallis and Luke Savill. We love having you and
yeah we will see you soon. And Matt, thank you
for filling in for you.
Speaker 3 (58:48):
Are so much better looking, more knowledgeable and nicer than Dave.
Speaker 1 (58:54):
Where is everyone? He's in Fiji. Yeah, yeah, he's in Fiji.
He's been winging about it. I was like, mate, it's
eight degrees and raining here.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Shut up. Yeah, you're fine, fine, but we will see
you next week.
Speaker 6 (59:10):
Hey everyone, Harps and Andy here just want to remind
you that you can watch every episode of The Tennis
on our YouTube channel, Australian Open TV.
Speaker 10 (59:16):
And we have an email as well podcast at Tennis
dot com dot au. If you thought the show was
amazing or you thought it was terrible, we are keen
to hear from you we'll read it, so feedback comments,
whatever it is. Get in touch with us at our
email and we'll catch you on the next one.
Speaker 7 (59:32):
Catch you later.
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