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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Tim Power Show on your VOCM.
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Here's Tim. Hello everybody. Tuesday, October fourteenth, election day in
Newfoundland and Labrador. As you know, polls close at eight
pm on the island and seven point thirty most of Labrador.
Let me say what I'm sure everybody else has been
saying today, Not to be repetitive and boring, but to
make the point. If you haven't voted, please do coming
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off thanksgivings when they're going to give thanks for you
have a say what happens tonight, what the government looks
like tomorrow, and it's important. Do you exercise it. If
you're eighteen years of old and eighteen years of age
and eligible to vote in Newfoundland and Labrador, do it,
do it? Do it. Congratulations regardless of outcome to all
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of the candidates. It takes a ton, a ton of
courage to put your name on a ballot, particularly in
this day and age. It takes a ton of courage
to be associated with political parties because they're not the
most treasured thing by the public as they once were. Yes,
their institutions, but their institutions under challenge, so well done
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in the independence as well, we have a few of those.
We have a few, there are quite too at least
that are in have a good chance of being re elected.
So just thank you everybody, and if you see a
candidate tonight, regardless of party, say thank you. They took
the step and good on them for doing so. I
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have been asked, as I'm sure many of you have,
in conversations you've had over the weekend, who do you
think is going to win? What do you think is
going to happen? All I will say is this It
still to me seems like one of the quietest elections
we have had in Newfoundland and elaboratory or there could
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be a whole bunch of reasons for that. Electoral fatigue,
the type of campaigning that took place, the general malaise
people find themselves in more often than not this time
of year, all of those things. It's hard to predict
where this is going to go tonight. It will be
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interesting to see do we end up with a minority,
do we end up with a change. We did have
some data, as you know, released over the weekend. We
had the MQO poll. We talked about that on Friday
that showed things relatively closed, but in the preferred premier
position of that poll, Premier Holegan was faring well. Some
people vote on leadership, does that have an influence? There
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was a main street poll that showed the Liberals with
a significant lead and that came out Friday evening Saturday morning.
To those polls, are they picking up something? Do they
have a right read? We shall see this evening. I'll
tell you what I'm going to be watching for. I'm
going to be watching some of the races in Saint John's,
Saint John's E's Katy Vitty, John Whale and Shilo Leary
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want to see what happens there. Want to see what
happens in Mount Siah with Daryl Hines and Jim dinn.
I want to have a look in Labrador and like Melville,
what happens in Jordan Brown's old seat in Labrador West.
What happens in outside the Avalon Peninsula. Do the Conservatives
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dominate there or not? Be watching all of those things,
so we'll see and whatever happens tomorrow. There's still big
things on the agenda, starting with that mu and whether
Premier Hogan is reelected or Tony Wakem is elected. It's
not going to go away. And it's been fascinating in
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this election campaign that at least based on the MQO data.
Despite a lot of people rightly sharing their opinion on it,
both for and against, it hasn't maybe gotten the depth
of public engagement that some would have liked. But we'll
be back in the spotlight tonight, tomorrow and going forward
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because if we are moving closer to a deal with
Quebec City, well the Quebec and the governments in Quebec City,
we will will see more outcrime, perhaps more support or
if Ransuolago, the Quebec Premier has his challenges, that will
also present challenges with the MoU So lots of things
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to watch. Look, we're going to talk a fair bit
about the election today. In a minute or so, we're
going to have our friend Zach Power to give us
an update on how things have been going today in
terms of turnout, leaders voting, what tonight is looking like
in terms of LCM coverage. After that, we're going to
take a quick election break and it will deserve because
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how about Holy Cross Geez, they used to be tough
to play against and with good reason. The Holy Cross
Men and the Holy Across Women both won national championships
this weekend. That is something to celebrate, and we're going
to talk to their coach, coached by Jake Stanford, well
known in Newfoundland and Labrador sports circles. Jake's going to
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join us at about four point thirty. We're going to
be joined by a young man, Ben Coats, who reached
out to me. He's a young engineer. He is a
friend of a couple of people I know. He said,
I'd love to come on and talk about the MoU
as a young person who has to bear whatever the
decision is before or against in the MoU. So we'll
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talk to Ben Coates. We're going to talk to the
head of the Pharmacists Association Newfoundland and Labrador at about
four forty about an election survey they did, and yes
we can talk about that because it's not about a candidate,
it's about a policy. And we're going to talk about
a community supper club in Mount Pearl as well before
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we go to news at five o'clock. But let's bring
him on. Zach. Okay, we're starting with baseball. We got
to start there before a get it because Ben, Oh geez,
how depressing was it this weekend in the so called
big dumper dumping on the Blue Jays. My god, it
was terrible, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You know, it gives me shades of the last series.
I think it was twenty twenty three between those two teams,
and boy, oh boy, we knew that they were good
Seattle and we knew that they were one of the
favorites to win both. I think a lot of Blue
Jays fans are starting to realize now exactly how good
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of a team Seattle is. You know, everybody wants to
see the Blue Jays win, but it's such a tough
series so.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Far, thirteen runs, two games, A couple of the better
pitchers beaten up Blue Jays in one of those places
where they've been before, where they are inconsistent, where the
relievers aren't delivering, the starters are tat erratic and the
hitting isn't as consistent. But I guess, Zach, before we
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moved to the election, if there is hope they've dug
themselves out of these holes before.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
They sure have, and I think that there's going to
be a lot of soul searching for tonight. I think,
you know tonight is they take their kind of moment,
you have to think, you know, four runs in two
games really, So there's a lot to think about in
terms of Blue Jays, and I'm sure that they'll They've
dug out of holes before, they've come back and win
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season series before, and it's not improbable that they come
back and do the same.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
By the way, my favorite nickname in sport is cal Rawley,
the big dumper. And yes, people, that does mean his backside.
He has a very large one. He's a catcher. Check
it out if you feel inclined. On Tuesday, Wednesday night.
All right, moving from the big dumper to the dump
of election results, we are going to get this evening.
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Just tell us the leaders today, Zach, I assume they
all voted. How did all that go?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, well, we know that all three political leaders voted
as you would expect, as did many of the mhs
throughout the course of the day. You know, one that
really kind of brought me back twenty eight days ago
was Tony wakem He was in Kippens and he used
his old truck, the same ones that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Big brown pickup that I make fun of.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes, exactly the same one that we talked about so
many moons ago, or it seems to be so many
moons ago. So that's where he casted his ballot. And
Jim din voted privately today. He was in Saint John
Center looks like the Knights of Columbus, but don't quote
me on that. So that's where he was today. And
Liberal leader John Hogan voted in the east end of
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Saint John's along with his wife Jill.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So all of those things are done. Turn out. What
do we know about turnout? Or is it busy at
the polling stations? What can you tell us about that?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, from what I've been hearing and what I've been
seeing at some of the polling stations, it's a little
bit less than normal. I think I've heard from multiple
people inside the polling stations who have told me that
they're not really up to pace where they normally are
at that hour. We'll definitely see what it's like today.
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You know, every circumstance is different. You know a lot
of people are working. You know, maybe we see that
afternoon in flux that we have seen in past, right,
But I do think, and we've talked about it a
lot on this program, is the amount of voter fatigue.
You know, it was only last week that people in
Saint John's were voting, and then the week before that
people in Mount Pearl were voting, and then we had
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the federal election before that, and it's easy to conflate all.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Three of them. So here we are. Yeah, Look, there's
a lot of literature that shows that lower turnout tends
to favor the incumbent, but that can always change. And
advanced polls were what were they sixteen twenty? I can't
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remember what the Evans poll number was. A lot of
people now vote in advanced polls. Parties try and get
their votes out, so it's hard to take much from
all of that. And in Canada we don't really do
what the Americans do, the exit polls where you ask
somebody as they step out how they're doing. So that
is what it is for now. I do want to
ask you before we get to the coverage for tonight.
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The weekend, there were a couple of polls that popped up.
The MQO poll got mostly reported in different places. The
Main Street poll got reported in different places. Big difference
between those two polls in terms of the lead that
the liberals had or have How did they play out
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over the weekend or did they get lost as people
kind of just went into Thanksgiving and only the political
activists we're paying attention.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, well, we know that there was three poles that
were released over the course of the weekend. H Yeah,
from Cardinal Research, and all three of them show in
different various forms. You know, how many seats you know,
we know that. And I was talking to someone about
this just today about how hard it is to predict
and poll something like this because we know that the
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independence play a role in this. You know, if they're
going to get two to three seats in this and
they've have had two to three seats, that impacts how
your polling is done. And we also know that these
have come out so late in the game as well,
a lot of people have already voted by the time
that some of these surveys have come out. So I
think a lot of people this is they're coming into
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this and voting from the gut, right. We haven't had
time to really sway the voting intentions a whole lot
with a lot of these poles, you know, and I'm
sure you know this too. With any election, you get
the poll come out and you say, oh, well, my
vote's not really.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Going to count.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
My vote is going to count, so maybe I'm going
to vote one way or another, and we're not really
seeing that a whole lot this time. It's pretty well
voting with what happens, and it's a lot of what
happens at the door, right It's you know, we've talked
about how this is going to be a district by
district election, and there's forty districts that are going to
come back with results tonight, and each one of them
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are coming with a different ballock box question. Maybe if
you're in Trepascy, you're talking about the breakwater, if you're
in Stephenville, you're talking about the airport. So these are
all things that a lot of the candidates are really
facing right now. If you're in Cornerbrook, you might be
talking about public transit, or maybe in St. Anthony it's healthcare. Right,
these are a lot of topics that they're going to
go back to each one of these candidates and talk
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about in terms of where they sit and where they lie,
and that's what's going to come down to what it
seems like in this election.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, and I've had a put to me that don't
be surprised if the Conservatives do better than the polls
to yes, because they've focused on these district by district battles.
Now again that was a liberal insider who said that
to me. But we'll see, we'll we'll see after eight o'clock.
So when we turn on VOCM at eight o'clock, Island
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Times seven thirty and big Land FM, what are we
going to hear? What's the plan for tonight?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, well, we're pulling out all the stops here for
this one. We have reporters lined up at each of
the three individual camps. We know that John Hogan is
going to be in Saint John's at the form well
I call the Newfoundland Hotel, Tony Wakem. It will be
at the days In in Stephenville. An NDP leader Jim
Din will be at the Spirit of newfoundlind We have
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reporters set up at all three of those stations. We'll
have host Greg Smith who will be here to guide
the ship and steer the ship as it goes along.
Paddy Daily and vo CM's Linda Swain will be at
the VOCM decision desk bringing in results as they come in,
and of course Brian Mador will be anchoring some of
the newscasts and keeping you up to date on all
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the news of the day that's happen on that and
the news that's coming out of these elections as well.
And of course the online component VOCM dot com forty
districts all hand typed out there, ready to go and
we'll have results as they come in on there as well.
Of course we'll be on the Big Land FM radio
network as well for listeners in Labrador, and it's all
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on the wherever you listen to VOCM and wherever you
do get VOCM, we'll be there.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Don't get carpl tunnel. Zach, you got a lot of
typing to. Zaki is the webking tonight. He's going to
make it all happen, all right, buddy, Go get a
brief break before it all kicks off in about three
and a half hours. Appreciate the time as always.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Thanks Tim, and I want to thank you so much
for what's been an exciting campaign. We've learned a lot
and your show has really been informative to a lot
of yours and listeners.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh, Zach, jeez, that's awful. Nice well If the Blue
Jays make the World Series, we'll have you on every
day to talk about that. All right, sounds good, sounds
all right? Take care. That is our friend, Zach Zach Power.
All right. When we come back, we're gonna take a
break from elections and talk about something that's just fantastic.
Newfoundland and a Labrador, specifically holy Cross kicking some butt
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on the national stage and doing it at home. They
won the women's and men's championship. We're going to talk
to their coach, a Memorial University's coach, Jake Stanford, when
we come back here on the Tim Power Show. I
had to get ready for this one. See, I have
these holy Cross nightmares because when I was younger, I
believe the feelings for a period of time and Holy Cross.
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Hang on, Oh, Jac, it gets worse. I got knocked
out cold one time at Buckmasters Circle trying to stop
Johnny Hearn and I think I still have an elbow
dent in my head and Brian Hako put a few
balls through me. And then there's the Breens and you
damn Stanford's. But you know what, I am glad to
have you on today to talk about the awesome feet
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on the weekend, the two teams you coach holy Cross
won two championships, the men's and the women's. I think
that's the first time you've Is it the first time
you've won both in the same time together, Jake, or
is this just a regular occurrence?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
No, no, no, it's the first time and it's probably
I know the CSA repped their Richard Coss and he's
checking into it. He seems it might be the first
time in the history of a club men and women
winning at the same time in the same year.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Actually, it's just fantastic. And I was reading, so it's
the twenty fourth or twenty fifth time for the men
to be in the Challenge Cup, is that right?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
That's right? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And how long for the women?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We didn't I guess well we started the backup well,
certainly last ten years in a row for sure, and
holy Cross were at the Nationals before. But this group
has been together since twenty fifteen, So since twenty sixteen onwards,
we've been at the Nationals every.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Year and to have them at home and to win.
But before we get to all of that, like people
don't get how incredible this is. You want to nationally
there are a lot of good I'm coming to from
Ottawa to day. You play Gloucester on the weekend. There
are a ton of good amateur teams here. There's a
ton of good amateur teams in Montreal and Toronto, bigger areas.
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You beat all these teams. How do we produce such
talent that does this and gets the finals regularly?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think you know, and you're right. I mean the teams,
there are quality teams that you play against.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It obviously from.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Bigger areas, it's difficult to compete. So you know, when
you have some quality players and a lot of these
players and the men and the women have been together
a long while, and you know, it takes a lot
of commitment from them, takes a lot of dedication and training,
and certainly we had to work, you know, so much
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harder to make sure that.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You know, we're number one, we're going to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But now I think we're at the stage that we're
consistently competitive, and not only competitive. These young men and
women goals always feel that when we go on the
pitch that they can compete with anybody, regardless where they're from.
So I think you know, though attitude that you know,
we're from New foland Labator, so we're inferior to everybody else.
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I think that's more of a historical thing, and I think,
you know, players here use that as a motivation, and
you know, they pulled together. I think there's a lot
more unity and pride. Of course New Flanders have such
great pride anyway, and I think I see that a lot.
You know, I mean obviously at this you know, my life,
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and I see that with this these group of players
that we have here, and you know, I think that's
a special thing. I think that's it's a little bit different.
I'm not saying that other teams from away don't have it.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I just feel that we show a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
More passion and pride, and I think that's a motivation
that we use well here from being from the plant
level or and when we go to these next levels,
like it's almost like us against the world type attitude.
We've got to make sure that we've got to prove ourselves.
But then it gets to a certain point and I
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think these players realize that they can play.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
There are quality.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Players, and when you get that, then I think you
can you can win at any level.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In my opinion, I think you're absolutely right on that. Now,
what I also remember about holy Cross in particular, you
had the family dynasties in there, like you had Readies,
you had brains, you had your family. Do you still
have the family lines that make holy Cross kind of
a special club? Yes? Other I mean the Facies were
at Pelians for years and Gus, I think you got
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them back over at holy Cross eventually. But do you
have that does that still happen?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah, that's still there.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know, it's this great point and I mean the
family support is there for holy Cross.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I will tell you that that's.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Still there, you know, I know in the fans all
week and the support there and and the Readies and
the Breens and the Moats and the Stanfords are all there.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, we're all still there.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean Paul Mullett's assistant coach with me with the girls.
I mean I had my daughter as assistant coach, you
know with the girls. My son, my son played with
the men's Johnny Breen's son with the men's system brings
you know, John Hakos. The Hakos have been with holy
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Cross for years too, and you know, so you know
you're still that connection certainly, there's new players and that's
what makes your teams so well. But you know, it's
it's the funny thing that teams players from the seventies,
there's the connection now with twenty twenty five and is
still there. And you know, we had my grandkids watching
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the game, and other people had their kids, and you know,
so we're hoping that that legacy continues on at some point.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
You know, you've won a lot, You've been really fortunate,
and you're obviously very good at what you do, Jake,
But how special is it to win at home, particularly
like this where it appears to be historic Women's and
men's Holy Cross, same club, same day, within a couple
of hours of each other, winning the Nationals at home?
How incredible was all that?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's a surreal feeling. I got to be honest with you,
I don't know if it's said and yet, and certainly
after you know, you step away from it over the
next couple of weeks, I'm sure it will, but yesterday
it was just a surreal feeling.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
But you know, it's unbelievable. It's nice wherever you went.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Obviously, when we won the first time away, it was
it was still, but we were waiting and we had
to come home with the girls. You know, we're after
winning National Mills before a number of times, you know,
But the feeling at home with all the fans and
your family and all your supporters are there and it's
on King George the Fifth, it's just something special that
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it's going to be with all of us for the
rest of our lives.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And for me, it's you know, it's almost like the.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Icing and the cake because you always feel it's going
to happen, but then sometimes you say, oh my god,
this is never going to happen and.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
These but it's all credit. It's all credit to the.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Players, you know, because it's about the players. It's not
about everybody else. The most important thing in the game
is the game is the players. And I think you
know the support that the players have around then all levels,
you know, from the organization standpoint and ours sponsor, I
mean Kurmight, Mike and Jerry Kirby have been fabulous for
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me with the Mensteam Neutral Holdings are responsor with the
women's team. All all that is important because you need
that support to keep your team going because you know,
it's it's it's all part of it. And for me,
I mean, I think it's going to take a little while.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
You know. I think it's whether at some point.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
When you're not around a game anymore, whatever that may be.
I think that it'll set them more. And I think
these these young players are there and they realize that
they've done something very very special. But for some of them,
the job's not telling you yet. Throw on a young guest,
So you know, I'm hoping that they can push on
and continue winning and win some more titles.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, go get a youth sports title. That's where where
your your other soccer coaching is. I will say this
to conclude. The only thing as terrifying as you guys
on full steam was will Smalloy hitting an indoor soccer
ball at you and knocking your back five meters. But
there you go. You see, I'm almost over it anyway. Congratulations,
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he was fearful.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Anyway, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Want Wilson Lloy shot.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I guarantee you that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, he could knock down the stadium with the way
he hit that ball. Well done. Congratulations, you bring a
lot of pride and enjoyed a Newfoundlando Labrador. Congratulations Jake,
Oh wait, thank you for much, very much for calling
giving us the opportunity to speak about it, So.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
All right. That is Jake Stanford, head coach of the
winning Holy Cross Women's and Holy Cross men's team. First
time we think that the teams have won the national
championships together, and they did it in Saint John's. When
we come back, we're going to talk to a young
engineer about the muskrat or the muskrat falls. Oh my god, Tim,
could you get it right? The mo ou for Churchill
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falls back with that in a moment here on the
Tim Power Show earlier today. I was lucky to get
a message from a friend of mine who said I
should talk to this next guest, and I'm happy to
do so because he reached out to me. He's a
young engineer, just graduated, and he made the point and
we're going to hear him make the point that whatever
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happens with the MoU was squarely on his generation's shoulder.
So let's bring him on. That's Ben Oates. Ben. How
are you today?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Tim? I'm great? How are you today?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I am grand? Good on you for reaching out. You
had a bit of a Facebook discussion also going with
with con Con O'Brien and Con certainly has some strong
opinions on this subject and the subject of power developing
Newfoundland and Labrador. Your take. Situate yourself for us, Ben,
you're an engineer, you're working in Newfoundland and Labrador. Tell
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us how this debate is impacting you and could impact you.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, I was born and raised
right here in Saint John's out in the East End,
and much like yourself, was a field in a few
years ago, but wasn't much good.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's why I went to rugby. You see, I moved
from soccer to rugby. But anyway, go ahead, bitch.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I decided to hit the books. There's a good story there.
I was signed enough for winter practice and Dad said,
you know, you're not much good at this. You should
probably go get a job.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
So that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
You anyway, So graduated engineering. I've always you know, throughout
the engineering program, we're privileged enough to be able to
go work in industry. And I did my work terms
in a few different sectors in a few different places,
the old industry, energy, industry, renewable energy, and right now
I'm presently employed down at the dockyard, the new doc
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and you know, I grew up, I came of age
in you know, was a teenager in the mid twenty
tens and late twenty tens and kind of saw the
the tables turning off on a came to moscrat follows,
but also when it came to the downturn of the
oil industry and such, and you know that that kind
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of drew me to politics, but also to engineering as well,
and to how those two fields kind of intersect. And
you know, there's been a lot of discussion with regards
to this Memoranum understanding from you know, I'd say the
usual suspects, the usual people are chiming in, but we're
not hearing a lot about what the Rabbi vuications will
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be for youth. Youth are talking about it absolutely, you know,
contrary to popular opinion. I do have friends and you
know we are talking. We are talking about it. We
are you know, we're keenly interested in it. And the
one thing that keeps coming up to me is why
why is nobody speaking out on our behalf? Right, It's
not their debt load, it's not their project, it's not
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their jobs that are on the line. It's it's ours right.
So I just kind of wanted to stick my hand
up and be counted, you know. And I find it's
it's very special to do so on election day, right
and and yeah, that's that's my democratic duty. And I
viewed as my duty as anop and lander to to
say my piece. And you know, well I might not
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be as uh as opinion of this, mister O'Brien, I'm
still going to stand up and be counted.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So well, and we're glad you are. This is the
voice of the common man after all. So you got
a got about four minutes. Tell me your perspective, particularly
somebody who's who is an engineer who will inherit the
presence in the future of the province. What is your
take on the m OU from what you have seen
and read and uh and the discussions you've had.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, for sure. So when when the deal, when they
first made the announcement that the m OU was being released,
I was I was like a scalded cat. I was
that nervous about it. I wanted to make sure we
had a good deal and stuff like that. And you know,
being self proclaimed nerd, I did read it from tip
to tail the text of the m U but also
the explainers and such like that. And what came became.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Clear to me is that in my opinion and my analysis,
in my judgment, having heard a wide variety of voices
both in favor and against, is that it's a fair deal.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
It's a good deal for Newfoundland and Laborador. It's also
a good deal for Quebec. But it's not a binary
situation whereby, you know, if it's a good deal for us,
it doesn't have to be a bad deal for Quebec,
and vice versa. If it's a bad excuse me. If
it's a good deal for Quebec, it doesn't have to
be a bad deal for us. It is, in my
opinion fair. It's how confederation should work. Quebec has a
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power demand, they will have a power demand sooner other
than later. Because when you think about these large scale
engineering mega projects, ten to sixteen years is really it's
no time at all. If you think about the amount
of engineering work that needs to go into it, the
amount of negotiations, the amount of land appropriation, financing, up, staffing, skilling,
the whole nine yards, it take a lot. When we
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as a province should definitely know that because of what
it took, what it costs our province. Let's let's call
it s fay to say what it costs our province
to build muskrat Falls, right, So we should be aware
that it takes it. You know, it takes a lot.
Quebec needs the power.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
We have the.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Resources to produce that power. The difference is between now
in nineteen sixty nine, is that they're going to pay
for this power at a fair rate, I would argue,
and if there are some major shocks to energy markets
that we had in nineteen seventies that causes power rates
to spike, we now have a mechanism. The best way
I can sum this up deal up, in my opinion
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is it presently makes sense and it's also future proof.
We need that money right now. You know, we need
those jobs, we need to get rolling on it, and
Quebec will need the power by the time this thing
is built. So I think it's it's reasonable and.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't want to put you in a position of
defending it, but I would ask just for your interpretation
of the future proofing, because the critics of the MoU
say the value of what we get both now and
in the future is not where it should be, and
that there aren't proper escalator clauses built in there or
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escape clauses. Your take on.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
That, absolutely, and bring it on. I love a good discussion,
and this is the exact kind of rigor we need
to approach this thing with. In response to that, I
would say three maybe four things. Number one, the document
that we have before us is a memorandum of understanding.
The actual negotiation is currently ongoing. So the prices that
are outlined in Schedule I think it's Schedule F Schedule
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A are agreements in principle, but they're not setting stone,
so we still have a little bit of little room there. Well,
you know, this MLU is basically just to get to
the in front of us. For one. For two, I
think there's a hyperfixation on the upper Churchill asset, which
is the thing that already exists. It's the thing we
didn't have to pay for. It's the thing that's turning away.
However it is currently turning away solely to the benefit
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of Quebec. I think there's a hyperfixation on that sixth
sense for kill a lot of hour figure and you
know it is lower than the rate of replacement, which
keeps getting quote greater replacement, great replacement rate of replacement bus.
That does two things. One it, in my opinion, is
not being widely discussed enough that the existing church or
at that is paid off and the significant portion of
any any project's financing. Again, we should know this is
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debt servicing. When the price of muskred doubled, so too
were our power rates, right, so vice versa. You know, inversely,
since there is no debt on that asset, the price
is going to be much lower to turn a profit up.
And a little a side note on that is the
real value in this deal, in my opinion, is in
the Gull Island joint venture. That's where the bread and
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butter is. You know, Quebec is going to basically play
as a down pay and it was twenty five billion
just for access to that power. We do not at present,
nor will we in the future, have a market to
sell that volume of power to anybody else. You know,
if other customers wanted it, they would have came already.
There is no there is no tangible commercial alternative. And yeah,
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the real values in Goal Islands, I think the effect
of powering paid across the entire asset structures. Correct me
if I'm wrong. I think it's fifteen cents for kill hour,
which is which is fair?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's right? Yes, yeah, then before I let you go,
gotta let you go. In about a minute, people who
are looking, well, let me change the question. Tomorrow we will,
I think, barring some strange sort of configuration of factors,
have a premier. All three of the leaders have our support.
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Premier Hogan and Jim Din are supportive of the deal,
as are the m OU. As currently is. Tony Wakem
doesn't disdain the MLU, but he wants it potentially to
be improved, but has said we would go to a
referendum to decide it regardless of who wins tomorrow. What
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do you want the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador to
do tomorrow about the m OU?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
I mean, the number one thing we need is stability
and certainty, not just for the m o u's sake,
but also for the fact you know of of commercial
of investors in this province. You know, I know anecdotally
that in the wake of the some political crises about
a decade ago, there was money left on the table
by private corporations who saw the level of I won't
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call it chaos. I'll call it passion. In our politics,
that that removes the certainty, that allows people, that keeps
us from getting ahead. So I want certainty. I want
a premier that they will to say, yes, this is
what we are going to do with this deal, this
is what we're going to do to finance it, here's
how we're going to govern it, etc. Et cetera, et cetera.
In other places of the world, such commercial contracts are
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not political football. They're not used as such. They are
just straight cut and dry thrings. Now we have every reason,
you know, based on our history and our collective traumas,
to be so up arms about this deal. But I
think it's about time we put it past us and start,
you know, start making good, solid decisions. So I want
a premier who is who is stable, who is solid,
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who is not kind of wishy washy back and forth.
Are they for it? Are they against it? Are they
going to stall out? Are they not? I want someone
who's going to say unequivocally, here's what we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
And just a.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Final little note, if this deal was put forward and
I've said this in private, and I'll say it publicly.
You know, I personally lean more towards the center left
side of the vectrum. But if this deal was put
forward by a Progressive Conservative government and the Conservative government
in Nottawa, I would still be singing its praises. That's
how good of a deal it is. This is not
about This is, in my opinion, not about politics. It's
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just straight. It's it's way more boring than people think.
It's mad negotiation. It doesn't need to be all the type.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Well, well, don't worry, Ben, I think the public is
giving it a bee for boring based on the level
of public engagement unfortunately so far. But I'm glad we
had you on to thank you for reaching out. Loved
having your perspective and hope with Jet again soon. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Thanks to him.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
All this all right, take care. That is Ben Oates
reached out earlier, a young engineer. You heard his take
on it as somebody who will inherit whatever we do
come to terms with. Now, let's move to the Pharmacist
Association of Finland and Labrador, who had sent some correspondents
out to the three political parties looking for responses to
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the issues of importance to pharmacy they got them, and
we have doctor Ashley Wagmar with us today. She is
the president of the Pharmacists Association of a New Finland
and elaborador. Ashley, what kind of answers did you get?
Were they satisfying and how can people assess them?
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Hi? Tim, So, I mean, I think the answers we
received back for as you would expect, all of the
parties committed to work with panel in our state holders,
so the university and the College of Pharmacy, and in
all the areas that we put forward to them. So
we're obviously pleased that they seem willing and open to
work with us. But as any election season, you know,
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we're looking at each platform and we're going to you know,
keep an eye to make sure any election promises made
are kept in our new government.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, it was interesting for me over the four weeks,
as I'm sure it was for you and your team, Ashley.
A lot of promises made about healthcare. Now that's not
unusual in any election, but in this a lot Again
we're about access, and you're part of the access solution.
I would argue, absolutely, did you get a sense that
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though there's still my take and you correct me, if
I'm wrong, is the people are still trying. Health bureaucrats
and policy makers are still fine trying to figure out
how best they can utilize pharmacists to address the challenges
the public has.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
Is that here absolutely? I mean, I think, to be fair,
you have many different people in the healthcare system that
have a lot to offer, and none of us feel
like we're necessarily being utilized always to the best that
we can be utilized. So obviously, like these politicians have
all of us, all of these organizations going at them
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and you know, sending out some promises or whatnot, you know,
going forward. But I do think that pharmacists, particularly over
the last few years since COVID, have really proved how
much worth, how much they bring to the healthcare system,
and how much they can alleviate some of the stress,
particularly in our emergency rooms at our doctor's offices. And
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I am a little disappointed always to not kind of
see us kind of getting a little more back. So
we have gotten many things over the last couple of years,
but of course think that there's so much more that
we should be getting at this point.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Well, and it's interesting too, I think pharmacists, like I'm
coming to you from Attoa to day, but Ontario is
not all that different. I called my pharmacy today because
I was ordering a prescription refill and I went on
the automated system, and I always am reminded when I'm
on that system that you can push a button and
talk to a pharmacist within a reasonable amount of time,
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maybe two minutes, depends how busy the line is to
get some kind of initial consultation. I mean that didn't
exist ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 9 (39:29):
It does now, do you How do you, guys keep
making the case that you can do more, just what
you're doing now, coming on talking publicly about it, soliciting
politicians during election campaigns.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
How do you make the case that you can do more?
Speaker 8 (39:46):
I mean, at the end of the day, as you said,
we are the most accessible healthcare professional out there. I
think we've shown time and time again that each time
we have been given an opportunity from government, often that
we have a advocated for, but we've always rose to
the occasion. So like if you take a look at
flu shots and COVID shots, when we were granted universal coverage,
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we rose to the occasion and we are immunizing so
many people that likely would not have sought out flu
or COVID shots otherwise because they come into their pharmacy
for their prescription refill, or they pop into the pharmacy
because it's down the road from them and they can,
depending on the pharmacy, walk in, or they can go
online and make an appointment or call in and make
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an appointment. So the accessibility is really increasing vaccination in
our province. First of all, Then if you look at
us getting I think it was about two years ago
we got the coverage of eight common ailments that we
can assess and prescribe for that was covered under funding
from the government. There's actually thirty three common ailments we
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can assess them prescribe for, just not all are currently covered.
But if you take a look specifically at UTIs as
an example, which is some thing that can be fairly common,
it needs to be treated, and often people are ending
up in emergency waiting rooms or seeking out walking clinics,
trying to get in for a last minute appointment with
their doctor. They're calling us and we've actually assessed and
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potentially prescribed for thirty thousand residents in this province. So
that's thirty thousand appointments or people in waiting rooms that
we've helped out with. So you know, it's definitely challenging.
You know, we have to do a lot. We also
have issues with you know, pharmacist shortages, but we do
always manage to rise to the occasion. I think the
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proof is simply in our numbers.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, I think that's true. Okay, I got about a
minute here. If anybody hasn't voted and they're about to
go out and they want to know what parties have
said to you about the questions you asked, where can
they go to have a quick look.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
So on our website panel dot net, we do have
this available and we actually did circular all the information
to our pharmacy members. Obviously, we understand that this is
something that's pertinent for them in the election as it's
their job and something that's you know, they it's very
important to them, so we have circulated all that information
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last week. So you know, I hope people take that
into mind. Look at you know, each party's stances, their platforms,
and you know, I think healthcare is always going to
be an important issue in this province. That's clear because
it's such a big topic. Every single election, so I
think you know you need to focus on that and
who you think is going to do the best going
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forward for our province and the healthcare in our province.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Well, thank you for soliciting that. That's a lot of
important information for people to look at. Thank you for
what you do and thank you Ashley for joining us today.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (42:47):
You have a good day, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
All right, that's doctor Ashley Wagner, Panel President Pharmacists Association
of Newfoundland and Labrador. We're going to come back and
talk about a supper club service in Mount Pearl. Back
with that in a moment on the Tim Power Show,
The Tim Power Show, Joining the Conversation weekday afternoons at
four pm on your VOCM. You got three hours and
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four minutes to vote. If you haven't go out and
do it, we're going to tell you about a different
story though. Now when that's pretty uplifting. The Mount Pearl
Community Supper is happening tomorrow night, four thirty to five
thirty at the Church of Ascension on Smallwood Drive, and
one of the people behind it is Scott Hillier. He's
a local businessman. He's one of the owners of Coffee
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matters great spot by the way, Scott quite enjoy going in.
Tell us about this supper and how it all started.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, So, our Mount Pearl Community Supper Program is a
program that we founded about seven years ago and it's
a collaboration of myself that spearheads it along with seven
churches in Mount.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Pearl and there clearly was in need. Does your supper
helps in part address this need? Tell us a bit
about that and who else is involved.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Yeah, So, I mean it's a you know, it's a
charity that we have started here around Pearl. You know,
it's locally ran by all volunteers and we get sponsors.
But most recently we are now part of a rescue
food program. So we get calls from different suppliers, different
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wholesalers with food that if we don't take it goes
to the garbage. So we rescue it and then we
start making meals out of that food.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
So when the.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Program started, Tim, we were serving in health and we
were serving about seventy five to one hundred people. The
program then became then COVID hit, so then that changed everything.
So then I was able to get the Salvation Army
emergency truck, so we would move from parking lot to
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parking lot in Mount Pearl, serving just soup and sandwiches,
those types of things during COVID, and then when COVID
was over, we then decided we would just do a
takeout program so on an average, so we do this
every second Wednesday, and our numbers last year grew to
about three hundred and speculating by the number of messages
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that I've gotten over the last week or so, Tomorrow
night we're going to do three hundred and fifty turkey dinners.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, and it's the Thanksgiving treat. As you say, now,
I understand it's for residence residents, excuse me, Scott, for
Mount Pearl, but no one is turned the way and.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Kim the reason we say it's for Mount Pearl, and
again anybody is welcome, but there's no such program in
Mount pearol And everybody thinks about poverty and they look
at the big cities and you know, but there's homelessness
in Mount Pearl just as much as there is in
Saint John's or anywhere else in the city. But as
you know, there's many avenues for people who live in
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Saint John's to be able to get a free meal
and right now we are the only organization that provides
such a meal in Mount Pearl.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Well, good on you and everybody involved. Again tomorrow four
thirty to five thirty Church of Ascension Thanksgiving treat Baked
turkey with dressing, gravy, mashed potatoes, veggie, sweet and a
sweet and a dinner. All sounds pretty damn good. Scott,
Thank you for sharing this, Thank you for what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Yeah, we have do a huge shot out. Sobey's in
Mount Pearl have graciously donated the whole meal tomorrow evening.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well there you go. I used to work at Soby's
on Ropewalk Lane years ago. They were a good talking
They are great company. Thank you Scott, Thank you everybody
who's doing this.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Thank you Tim. Thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
By bye, all right.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
That is Scott Hill here from the Mount Pearl Community Supper.
There you have it. If you're out in Mount Pearl
tomorrow night and are in need, you can go. Of course,
stay tuned tonight for our award winning VOCM coverage. We've
got our A plus team on this, led by Patty
and Linda and Richard and all the reporters everywhere. Brian Zach,
Greg they'll all bring you the election results. We'll dig
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into it all tomorrow on this show. Thank you to Claudette.
Go vote for now. I'm Tim Power. Talk to you
tomorrow
This is the Tim Power Show on your VOCM.
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
Here's Tim. Hello everybody. Tuesday, October fourteenth, election day in
Newfoundland and Labrador. As you know, polls close at eight
pm on the island and seven point thirty most of Labrador.
Let me say what I'm sure everybody else has been
saying today, Not to be repetitive and boring, but to
make the point. If you haven't voted, please do coming
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off thanksgivings when they're going to give thanks for you
have a say what happens tonight, what the government looks
like tomorrow, and it's important. Do you exercise it. If
you're eighteen years of old and eighteen years of age
and eligible to vote in Newfoundland and Labrador, do it,
do it? Do it. Congratulations regardless of outcome to all
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of the candidates. It takes a ton, a ton of
courage to put your name on a ballot, particularly in
this day and age. It takes a ton of courage
to be associated with political parties because they're not the
most treasured thing by the public as they once were. Yes,
their institutions, but their institutions under challenge, so well done
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in the independence as well, we have a few of those.
We have a few, there are quite too at least
that are in have a good chance of being re elected.
So just thank you everybody, and if you see a
candidate tonight, regardless of party, say thank you. They took
the step and good on them for doing so. I
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have been asked, as I'm sure many of you have,
in conversations you've had over the weekend, who do you
think is going to win? What do you think is
going to happen? All I will say is this It
still to me seems like one of the quietest elections
we have had in Newfoundland and elaboratory or there could
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be a whole bunch of reasons for that. Electoral fatigue,
the type of campaigning that took place, the general malaise
people find themselves in more often than not this time
of year, all of those things. It's hard to predict
where this is going to go tonight. It will be
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interesting to see do we end up with a minority,
do we end up with a change. We did have
some data, as you know, released over the weekend. We
had the MQO poll. We talked about that on Friday
that showed things relatively closed, but in the preferred premier
position of that poll, Premier Holegan was faring well. Some
people vote on leadership, does that have an influence? There
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was a main street poll that showed the Liberals with
a significant lead and that came out Friday evening Saturday morning.
To those polls, are they picking up something? Do they
have a right read? We shall see this evening. I'll
tell you what I'm going to be watching for. I'm
going to be watching some of the races in Saint John's,
Saint John's E's Katy Vitty, John Whale and Shilo Leary
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want to see what happens there. Want to see what
happens in Mount Siah with Daryl Hines and Jim dinn.
I want to have a look in Labrador and like Melville,
what happens in Jordan Brown's old seat in Labrador West.
What happens in outside the Avalon Peninsula. Do the Conservatives
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dominate there or not? Be watching all of those things,
so we'll see and whatever happens tomorrow. There's still big
things on the agenda, starting with that mu and whether
Premier Hogan is reelected or Tony Wakem is elected. It's
not going to go away. And it's been fascinating in
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this election campaign that at least based on the MQO data.
Despite a lot of people rightly sharing their opinion on it,
both for and against, it hasn't maybe gotten the depth
of public engagement that some would have liked. But we'll
be back in the spotlight tonight, tomorrow and going forward
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because if we are moving closer to a deal with
Quebec City, well the Quebec and the governments in Quebec City,
we will will see more outcrime, perhaps more support or
if Ransuolago, the Quebec Premier has his challenges, that will
also present challenges with the MoU So lots of things
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to watch. Look, we're going to talk a fair bit
about the election today. In a minute or so, we're
going to have our friend Zach Power to give us
an update on how things have been going today in
terms of turnout, leaders voting, what tonight is looking like
in terms of LCM coverage. After that, we're going to
take a quick election break and it will deserve because
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how about Holy Cross Geez, they used to be tough
to play against and with good reason. The Holy Cross
Men and the Holy Across Women both won national championships
this weekend. That is something to celebrate, and we're going
to talk to their coach, coached by Jake Stanford, well
known in Newfoundland and Labrador sports circles. Jake's going to
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join us at about four point thirty. We're going to
be joined by a young man, Ben Coats, who reached
out to me. He's a young engineer. He is a
friend of a couple of people I know. He said,
I'd love to come on and talk about the MoU
as a young person who has to bear whatever the
decision is before or against in the MoU. So we'll
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talk to Ben Coates. We're going to talk to the
head of the Pharmacists Association Newfoundland and Labrador at about
four forty about an election survey they did, and yes
we can talk about that because it's not about a candidate,
it's about a policy. And we're going to talk about
a community supper club in Mount Pearl as well before
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we go to news at five o'clock. But let's bring
him on. Zach. Okay, we're starting with baseball. We got
to start there before a get it because Ben, Oh geez,
how depressing was it this weekend in the so called
big dumper dumping on the Blue Jays. My god, it
was terrible, wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
You know, it gives me shades of the last series.
I think it was twenty twenty three between those two teams,
and boy, oh boy, we knew that they were good
Seattle and we knew that they were one of the
favorites to win both. I think a lot of Blue
Jays fans are starting to realize now exactly how good
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of a team Seattle is. You know, everybody wants to
see the Blue Jays win, but it's such a tough
series so.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Far, thirteen runs, two games, A couple of the better
pitchers beaten up Blue Jays in one of those places
where they've been before, where they are inconsistent, where the
relievers aren't delivering, the starters are tat erratic and the
hitting isn't as consistent. But I guess, Zach, before we
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moved to the election, if there is hope they've dug
themselves out of these holes before.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
They sure have, and I think that there's going to
be a lot of soul searching for tonight. I think,
you know tonight is they take their kind of moment,
you have to think, you know, four runs in two
games really, So there's a lot to think about in
terms of Blue Jays, and I'm sure that they'll They've
dug out of holes before, they've come back and win
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season series before, and it's not improbable that they come
back and do the same.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
By the way, my favorite nickname in sport is cal Rawley,
the big dumper. And yes, people, that does mean his backside.
He has a very large one. He's a catcher. Check
it out if you feel inclined. On Tuesday, Wednesday night.
All right, moving from the big dumper to the dump
of election results, we are going to get this evening.
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Just tell us the leaders today, Zach, I assume they
all voted. How did all that go?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, well, we know that all three political leaders voted
as you would expect, as did many of the mhs
throughout the course of the day. You know, one that
really kind of brought me back twenty eight days ago
was Tony wakem He was in Kippens and he used
his old truck, the same ones that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Big brown pickup that I make fun of.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yes, exactly the same one that we talked about so
many moons ago, or it seems to be so many
moons ago. So that's where he casted his ballot. And
Jim din voted privately today. He was in Saint John
Center looks like the Knights of Columbus, but don't quote
me on that. So that's where he was today. And
Liberal leader John Hogan voted in the east end of
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Saint John's along with his wife Jill.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So all of those things are done. Turn out. What
do we know about turnout? Or is it busy at
the polling stations? What can you tell us about that?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Yeah, from what I've been hearing and what I've been
seeing at some of the polling stations, it's a little
bit less than normal. I think I've heard from multiple
people inside the polling stations who have told me that
they're not really up to pace where they normally are
at that hour. We'll definitely see what it's like today.
(09:25):
You know, every circumstance is different. You know a lot
of people are working. You know, maybe we see that
afternoon in flux that we have seen in past, right,
But I do think, and we've talked about it a
lot on this program, is the amount of voter fatigue.
You know, it was only last week that people in
Saint John's were voting, and then the week before that
people in Mount Pearl were voting, and then we had
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the federal election before that, and it's easy to conflate all.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Three of them. So here we are. Yeah, Look, there's
a lot of literature that shows that lower turnout tends
to favor the incumbent, but that can always change. And
advanced polls were what were they sixteen twenty? I can't
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remember what the Evans poll number was. A lot of
people now vote in advanced polls. Parties try and get
their votes out, so it's hard to take much from
all of that. And in Canada we don't really do
what the Americans do, the exit polls where you ask
somebody as they step out how they're doing. So that
is what it is for now. I do want to
ask you before we get to the coverage for tonight.
(10:33):
The weekend, there were a couple of polls that popped up.
The MQO poll got mostly reported in different places. The
Main Street poll got reported in different places. Big difference
between those two polls in terms of the lead that
the liberals had or have How did they play out
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over the weekend or did they get lost as people
kind of just went into Thanksgiving and only the political
activists we're paying attention.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, well, we know that there was three poles that
were released over the course of the weekend. H Yeah,
from Cardinal Research, and all three of them show in
different various forms. You know, how many seats you know,
we know that. And I was talking to someone about
this just today about how hard it is to predict
and poll something like this because we know that the
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independence play a role in this. You know, if they're
going to get two to three seats in this and
they've have had two to three seats, that impacts how
your polling is done. And we also know that these
have come out so late in the game as well,
a lot of people have already voted by the time
that some of these surveys have come out. So I
think a lot of people this is they're coming into
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this and voting from the gut, right. We haven't had
time to really sway the voting intentions a whole lot
with a lot of these poles, you know, and I'm
sure you know this too. With any election, you get
the poll come out and you say, oh, well, my
vote's not really.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Going to count.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
My vote is going to count, so maybe I'm going
to vote one way or another, and we're not really
seeing that a whole lot this time. It's pretty well
voting with what happens, and it's a lot of what
happens at the door, right It's you know, we've talked
about how this is going to be a district by
district election, and there's forty districts that are going to
come back with results tonight, and each one of them
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are coming with a different ballock box question. Maybe if
you're in Trepascy, you're talking about the breakwater, if you're
in Stephenville, you're talking about the airport. So these are
all things that a lot of the candidates are really
facing right now. If you're in Cornerbrook, you might be
talking about public transit, or maybe in St. Anthony it's healthcare. Right,
these are a lot of topics that they're going to
go back to each one of these candidates and talk
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about in terms of where they sit and where they lie,
and that's what's going to come down to what it
seems like in this election.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, and I've had a put to me that don't
be surprised if the Conservatives do better than the polls
to yes, because they've focused on these district by district battles.
Now again that was a liberal insider who said that
to me. But we'll see, we'll we'll see after eight o'clock.
So when we turn on VOCM at eight o'clock, Island
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Times seven thirty and big Land FM, what are we
going to hear? What's the plan for tonight?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, well, we're pulling out all the stops here for
this one. We have reporters lined up at each of
the three individual camps. We know that John Hogan is
going to be in Saint John's at the form well
I call the Newfoundland Hotel, Tony Wakem. It will be
at the days In in Stephenville. An NDP leader Jim
Din will be at the Spirit of newfoundlind We have
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reporters set up at all three of those stations. We'll
have host Greg Smith who will be here to guide
the ship and steer the ship as it goes along.
Paddy Daily and vo CM's Linda Swain will be at
the VOCM decision desk bringing in results as they come in,
and of course Brian Mador will be anchoring some of
the newscasts and keeping you up to date on all
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the news of the day that's happen on that and
the news that's coming out of these elections as well.
And of course the online component VOCM dot com forty
districts all hand typed out there, ready to go and
we'll have results as they come in on there as well.
Of course we'll be on the Big Land FM radio
network as well for listeners in Labrador, and it's all
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on the wherever you listen to VOCM and wherever you
do get VOCM, we'll be there.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Don't get carpl tunnel. Zach, you got a lot of
typing to. Zaki is the webking tonight. He's going to
make it all happen, all right, buddy, Go get a
brief break before it all kicks off in about three
and a half hours. Appreciate the time as always.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Thanks Tim, and I want to thank you so much
for what's been an exciting campaign. We've learned a lot
and your show has really been informative to a lot
of yours and listeners.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Oh, Zach, jeez, that's awful. Nice well If the Blue
Jays make the World Series, we'll have you on every
day to talk about that. All right, sounds good, sounds
all right? Take care. That is our friend, Zach Zach Power.
All right. When we come back, we're gonna take a
break from elections and talk about something that's just fantastic.
Newfoundland and a Labrador, specifically holy Cross kicking some butt
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on the national stage and doing it at home. They
won the women's and men's championship. We're going to talk
to their coach, a Memorial University's coach, Jake Stanford, when
we come back here on the Tim Power Show. I
had to get ready for this one. See, I have
these holy Cross nightmares because when I was younger, I
believe the feelings for a period of time and Holy Cross.
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Hang on, Oh, Jac, it gets worse. I got knocked
out cold one time at Buckmasters Circle trying to stop
Johnny Hearn and I think I still have an elbow
dent in my head and Brian Hako put a few
balls through me. And then there's the Breens and you
damn Stanford's. But you know what, I am glad to
have you on today to talk about the awesome feet
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on the weekend, the two teams you coach holy Cross
won two championships, the men's and the women's. I think
that's the first time you've Is it the first time
you've won both in the same time together, Jake, or
is this just a regular occurrence?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
No, no, no, it's the first time and it's probably
I know the CSA repped their Richard Coss and he's
checking into it. He seems it might be the first
time in the history of a club men and women
winning at the same time in the same year.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Actually, it's just fantastic. And I was reading, so it's
the twenty fourth or twenty fifth time for the men
to be in the Challenge Cup, is that right?
Speaker 4 (16:43):
That's right? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
And how long for the women?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
We didn't I guess well we started the backup well,
certainly last ten years in a row for sure, and
holy Cross were at the Nationals before. But this group
has been together since twenty fifteen, So since twenty sixteen onwards,
we've been at the Nationals every.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Year and to have them at home and to win.
But before we get to all of that, like people
don't get how incredible this is. You want to nationally
there are a lot of good I'm coming to from
Ottawa to day. You play Gloucester on the weekend. There
are a ton of good amateur teams here. There's a
ton of good amateur teams in Montreal and Toronto, bigger areas.
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You beat all these teams. How do we produce such
talent that does this and gets the finals regularly?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I think you know, and you're right. I mean the teams,
there are quality teams that you play against.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
It obviously from.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Bigger areas, it's difficult to compete. So you know, when
you have some quality players and a lot of these
players and the men and the women have been together
a long while, and you know, it takes a lot
of commitment from them, takes a lot of dedication and training,
and certainly we had to work, you know, so much
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harder to make sure that.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
You know, we're number one, we're going to be competitive.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
But now I think we're at the stage that we're
consistently competitive, and not only competitive. These young men and
women goals always feel that when we go on the
pitch that they can compete with anybody, regardless where they're from.
So I think you know, though attitude that you know,
we're from New foland Labator, so we're inferior to everybody else.
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I think that's more of a historical thing, and I think,
you know, players here use that as a motivation, and
you know, they pulled together. I think there's a lot
more unity and pride. Of course New Flanders have such
great pride anyway, and I think I see that a lot.
You know, I mean obviously at this you know, my life,
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and I see that with this these group of players
that we have here, and you know, I think that's
a special thing. I think that's it's a little bit different.
I'm not saying that other teams from away don't have it.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
I just feel that we show a lot.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
More passion and pride, and I think that's a motivation
that we use well here from being from the plant
level or and when we go to these next levels,
like it's almost like us against the world type attitude.
We've got to make sure that we've got to prove ourselves.
But then it gets to a certain point and I
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think these players realize that they can play.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
There are quality.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Players, and when you get that, then I think you
can you can win at any level.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In my opinion, I think you're absolutely right on that. Now,
what I also remember about holy Cross in particular, you
had the family dynasties in there, like you had Readies,
you had brains, you had your family. Do you still
have the family lines that make holy Cross kind of
a special club? Yes? Other I mean the Facies were
at Pelians for years and Gus, I think you got
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them back over at holy Cross eventually. But do you
have that does that still happen?
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Yeah, that's still there.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
You know, it's this great point and I mean the
family support is there for holy Cross.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
I will tell you that that's.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
Still there, you know, I know in the fans all
week and the support there and and the Readies and
the Breens and the Moats and the Stanfords are all there.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Yeah, yeah, we're all still there.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean Paul Mullett's assistant coach with me with the girls.
I mean I had my daughter as assistant coach, you
know with the girls. My son, my son played with
the men's Johnny Breen's son with the men's system brings
you know, John Hakos. The Hakos have been with holy
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Cross for years too, and you know, so you know
you're still that connection certainly, there's new players and that's
what makes your teams so well. But you know, it's
it's the funny thing that teams players from the seventies,
there's the connection now with twenty twenty five and is
still there. And you know, we had my grandkids watching
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the game, and other people had their kids, and you know,
so we're hoping that that legacy continues on at some point.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
You know, you've won a lot, You've been really fortunate,
and you're obviously very good at what you do, Jake,
But how special is it to win at home, particularly
like this where it appears to be historic Women's and
men's Holy Cross, same club, same day, within a couple
of hours of each other, winning the Nationals at home?
How incredible was all that?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It's a surreal feeling. I got to be honest with you,
I don't know if it's said and yet, and certainly
after you know, you step away from it over the
next couple of weeks, I'm sure it will, but yesterday
it was just a surreal feeling.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
But you know, it's unbelievable. It's nice wherever you went.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Obviously, when we won the first time away, it was
it was still, but we were waiting and we had
to come home with the girls. You know, we're after
winning National Mills before a number of times, you know,
But the feeling at home with all the fans and
your family and all your supporters are there and it's
on King George the Fifth, it's just something special that
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it's going to be with all of us for the
rest of our lives.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
And for me, it's you know, it's almost like the.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Icing and the cake because you always feel it's going
to happen, but then sometimes you say, oh my god,
this is never going to happen and.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
These but it's all credit. It's all credit to the.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Players, you know, because it's about the players. It's not
about everybody else. The most important thing in the game
is the game is the players. And I think you
know the support that the players have around then all levels,
you know, from the organization standpoint and ours sponsor, I
mean Kurmight, Mike and Jerry Kirby have been fabulous for
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me with the Mensteam Neutral Holdings are responsor with the
women's team. All all that is important because you need
that support to keep your team going because you know,
it's it's it's all part of it. And for me,
I mean, I think it's going to take a little while.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
You know. I think it's whether at some point.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
When you're not around a game anymore, whatever that may be.
I think that it'll set them more. And I think
these these young players are there and they realize that
they've done something very very special. But for some of them,
the job's not telling you yet. Throw on a young guest,
So you know, I'm hoping that they can push on
and continue winning and win some more titles.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, go get a youth sports title. That's where where
your your other soccer coaching is. I will say this
to conclude. The only thing as terrifying as you guys
on full steam was will Smalloy hitting an indoor soccer
ball at you and knocking your back five meters. But
there you go. You see, I'm almost over it anyway. Congratulations,
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he was fearful.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Anyway, I didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Want Wilson Lloy shot.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I guarantee you that.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Yeah, he could knock down the stadium with the way
he hit that ball. Well done. Congratulations, you bring a
lot of pride and enjoyed a Newfoundlando Labrador. Congratulations Jake,
Oh wait, thank you for much, very much for calling
giving us the opportunity to speak about it, So.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
All right. That is Jake Stanford, head coach of the
winning Holy Cross Women's and Holy Cross men's team. First
time we think that the teams have won the national
championships together, and they did it in Saint John's. When
we come back, we're going to talk to a young
engineer about the muskrat or the muskrat falls. Oh my god, Tim,
could you get it right? The mo ou for Churchill
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falls back with that in a moment here on the
Tim Power Show earlier today. I was lucky to get
a message from a friend of mine who said I
should talk to this next guest, and I'm happy to
do so because he reached out to me. He's a
young engineer, just graduated, and he made the point and
we're going to hear him make the point that whatever
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happens with the MoU was squarely on his generation's shoulder.
So let's bring him on. That's Ben Oates. Ben. How
are you today?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
Tim? I'm great? How are you today?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I am grand? Good on you for reaching out. You
had a bit of a Facebook discussion also going with
with con Con O'Brien and Con certainly has some strong
opinions on this subject and the subject of power developing
Newfoundland and Labrador. Your take. Situate yourself for us, Ben,
you're an engineer, you're working in Newfoundland and Labrador. Tell
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us how this debate is impacting you and could impact you.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
Yeah, for sure. So yeah, I was born and raised
right here in Saint John's out in the East End,
and much like yourself, was a field in a few
years ago, but wasn't much good.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
That's why I went to rugby. You see, I moved
from soccer to rugby. But anyway, go ahead, bitch.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
I decided to hit the books. There's a good story there.
I was signed enough for winter practice and Dad said,
you know, you're not much good at this. You should
probably go get a job.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
So that's what I did.
Speaker 5 (26:23):
You anyway, So graduated engineering. I've always you know, throughout
the engineering program, we're privileged enough to be able to
go work in industry. And I did my work terms
in a few different sectors in a few different places,
the old industry, energy, industry, renewable energy, and right now
I'm presently employed down at the dockyard, the new doc
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and you know, I grew up, I came of age
in you know, was a teenager in the mid twenty
tens and late twenty tens and kind of saw the
the tables turning off on a came to moscrat follows,
but also when it came to the downturn of the
oil industry and such, and you know that that kind
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of drew me to politics, but also to engineering as well,
and to how those two fields kind of intersect. And
you know, there's been a lot of discussion with regards
to this Memoranum understanding from you know, I'd say the
usual suspects, the usual people are chiming in, but we're
not hearing a lot about what the Rabbi vuications will
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be for youth. Youth are talking about it absolutely, you know,
contrary to popular opinion. I do have friends and you
know we are talking. We are talking about it. We
are you know, we're keenly interested in it. And the
one thing that keeps coming up to me is why
why is nobody speaking out on our behalf? Right, It's
not their debt load, it's not their project, it's not
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their jobs that are on the line. It's it's ours right.
So I just kind of wanted to stick my hand
up and be counted, you know. And I find it's
it's very special to do so on election day, right
and and yeah, that's that's my democratic duty. And I
viewed as my duty as anop and lander to to
say my piece. And you know, well I might not
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be as uh as opinion of this, mister O'Brien, I'm
still going to stand up and be counted.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So well, and we're glad you are. This is the
voice of the common man after all. So you got
a got about four minutes. Tell me your perspective, particularly
somebody who's who is an engineer who will inherit the
presence in the future of the province. What is your
take on the m OU from what you have seen
and read and uh and the discussions you've had.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Yeah, for sure. So when when the deal, when they
first made the announcement that the m OU was being released,
I was I was like a scalded cat. I was
that nervous about it. I wanted to make sure we
had a good deal and stuff like that. And you know,
being self proclaimed nerd, I did read it from tip
to tail the text of the m U but also
the explainers and such like that. And what came became.
Speaker 7 (28:59):
Clear to me is that in my opinion and my analysis,
in my judgment, having heard a wide variety of voices
both in favor and against, is that it's a fair deal.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
It's a good deal for Newfoundland and Laborador. It's also
a good deal for Quebec. But it's not a binary
situation whereby, you know, if it's a good deal for us,
it doesn't have to be a bad deal for Quebec,
and vice versa. If it's a bad excuse me. If
it's a good deal for Quebec, it doesn't have to
be a bad deal for us. It is, in my
opinion fair. It's how confederation should work. Quebec has a
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power demand, they will have a power demand sooner other
than later. Because when you think about these large scale
engineering mega projects, ten to sixteen years is really it's
no time at all. If you think about the amount
of engineering work that needs to go into it, the
amount of negotiations, the amount of land appropriation, financing, up, staffing, skilling,
the whole nine yards, it take a lot. When we
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as a province should definitely know that because of what
it took, what it costs our province. Let's let's call
it s fay to say what it costs our province
to build muskrat Falls, right, So we should be aware
that it takes it. You know, it takes a lot.
Quebec needs the power.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
We have the.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Resources to produce that power. The difference is between now
in nineteen sixty nine, is that they're going to pay
for this power at a fair rate, I would argue,
and if there are some major shocks to energy markets
that we had in nineteen seventies that causes power rates
to spike, we now have a mechanism. The best way
I can sum this up deal up, in my opinion
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is it presently makes sense and it's also future proof.
We need that money right now. You know, we need
those jobs, we need to get rolling on it, and
Quebec will need the power by the time this thing
is built. So I think it's it's reasonable and.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I don't want to put you in a position of
defending it, but I would ask just for your interpretation
of the future proofing, because the critics of the MoU
say the value of what we get both now and
in the future is not where it should be, and
that there aren't proper escalator clauses built in there or
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escape clauses. Your take on.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
That, absolutely, and bring it on. I love a good discussion,
and this is the exact kind of rigor we need
to approach this thing with. In response to that, I
would say three maybe four things. Number one, the document
that we have before us is a memorandum of understanding.
The actual negotiation is currently ongoing. So the prices that
are outlined in Schedule I think it's Schedule F Schedule
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A are agreements in principle, but they're not setting stone,
so we still have a little bit of little room there. Well,
you know, this MLU is basically just to get to
the in front of us. For one. For two, I
think there's a hyperfixation on the upper Churchill asset, which
is the thing that already exists. It's the thing we
didn't have to pay for. It's the thing that's turning away.
However it is currently turning away solely to the benefit
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of Quebec. I think there's a hyperfixation on that sixth
sense for kill a lot of hour figure and you
know it is lower than the rate of replacement, which
keeps getting quote greater replacement, great replacement rate of replacement bus.
That does two things. One it, in my opinion, is
not being widely discussed enough that the existing church or
at that is paid off and the significant portion of
any any project's financing. Again, we should know this is
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debt servicing. When the price of muskred doubled, so too
were our power rates, right, so vice versa. You know, inversely,
since there is no debt on that asset, the price
is going to be much lower to turn a profit up.
And a little a side note on that is the
real value in this deal, in my opinion, is in
the Gull Island joint venture. That's where the bread and
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butter is. You know, Quebec is going to basically play
as a down pay and it was twenty five billion
just for access to that power. We do not at present,
nor will we in the future, have a market to
sell that volume of power to anybody else. You know,
if other customers wanted it, they would have came already.
There is no there is no tangible commercial alternative. And yeah,
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the real values in Goal Islands, I think the effect
of powering paid across the entire asset structures. Correct me
if I'm wrong. I think it's fifteen cents for kill hour,
which is which is fair?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
That's right? Yes, yeah, then before I let you go,
gotta let you go. In about a minute, people who
are looking, well, let me change the question. Tomorrow we will,
I think, barring some strange sort of configuration of factors,
have a premier. All three of the leaders have our support.
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Premier Hogan and Jim Din are supportive of the deal,
as are the m OU. As currently is. Tony Wakem
doesn't disdain the MLU, but he wants it potentially to
be improved, but has said we would go to a
referendum to decide it regardless of who wins tomorrow. What
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do you want the Premier of Newfoundland and Labrador to
do tomorrow about the m OU?
Speaker 5 (34:05):
I mean, the number one thing we need is stability
and certainty, not just for the m o u's sake,
but also for the fact you know of of commercial
of investors in this province. You know, I know anecdotally
that in the wake of the some political crises about
a decade ago, there was money left on the table
by private corporations who saw the level of I won't
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call it chaos. I'll call it passion. In our politics,
that that removes the certainty, that allows people, that keeps
us from getting ahead. So I want certainty. I want
a premier that they will to say, yes, this is
what we are going to do with this deal, this
is what we're going to do to finance it, here's
how we're going to govern it, etc. Et cetera, et cetera.
In other places of the world, such commercial contracts are
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not political football. They're not used as such. They are
just straight cut and dry thrings. Now we have every reason,
you know, based on our history and our collective traumas,
to be so up arms about this deal. But I
think it's about time we put it past us and start,
you know, start making good, solid decisions. So I want
a premier who is who is stable, who is solid,
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who is not kind of wishy washy back and forth.
Are they for it? Are they against it? Are they
going to stall out? Are they not? I want someone
who's going to say unequivocally, here's what we're going to do.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
And just a.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Final little note, if this deal was put forward and
I've said this in private, and I'll say it publicly.
You know, I personally lean more towards the center left
side of the vectrum. But if this deal was put
forward by a Progressive Conservative government and the Conservative government
in Nottawa, I would still be singing its praises. That's
how good of a deal it is. This is not
about This is, in my opinion, not about politics. It's
(35:41):
just straight. It's it's way more boring than people think.
It's mad negotiation. It doesn't need to be all the type.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Well, well, don't worry, Ben, I think the public is
giving it a bee for boring based on the level
of public engagement unfortunately so far. But I'm glad we
had you on to thank you for reaching out. Loved
having your perspective and hope with Jet again soon. Thank you.
Speaker 5 (36:06):
Thanks to him.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
All this all right, take care. That is Ben Oates
reached out earlier, a young engineer. You heard his take
on it as somebody who will inherit whatever we do
come to terms with. Now, let's move to the Pharmacist
Association of Finland and Labrador, who had sent some correspondents
out to the three political parties looking for responses to
(36:30):
the issues of importance to pharmacy they got them, and
we have doctor Ashley Wagmar with us today. She is
the president of the Pharmacists Association of a New Finland
and elaborador. Ashley, what kind of answers did you get?
Were they satisfying and how can people assess them?
Speaker 8 (36:50):
Hi? Tim, So, I mean, I think the answers we
received back for as you would expect, all of the
parties committed to work with panel in our state holders,
so the university and the College of Pharmacy, and in
all the areas that we put forward to them. So
we're obviously pleased that they seem willing and open to
work with us. But as any election season, you know,
(37:12):
we're looking at each platform and we're going to you know,
keep an eye to make sure any election promises made
are kept in our new government.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, it was interesting for me over the four weeks,
as I'm sure it was for you and your team, Ashley.
A lot of promises made about healthcare. Now that's not
unusual in any election, but in this a lot Again
we're about access, and you're part of the access solution.
I would argue, absolutely, did you get a sense that
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though there's still my take and you correct me, if
I'm wrong, is the people are still trying. Health bureaucrats
and policy makers are still fine trying to figure out
how best they can utilize pharmacists to address the challenges
the public has.
Speaker 8 (37:59):
Is that here absolutely? I mean, I think, to be fair,
you have many different people in the healthcare system that
have a lot to offer, and none of us feel
like we're necessarily being utilized always to the best that
we can be utilized. So obviously, like these politicians have
all of us, all of these organizations going at them
(38:22):
and you know, sending out some promises or whatnot, you know,
going forward. But I do think that pharmacists, particularly over
the last few years since COVID, have really proved how
much worth, how much they bring to the healthcare system,
and how much they can alleviate some of the stress,
particularly in our emergency rooms at our doctor's offices. And
(38:45):
I am a little disappointed always to not kind of
see us kind of getting a little more back. So
we have gotten many things over the last couple of years,
but of course think that there's so much more that
we should be getting at this point.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Well, and it's interesting too, I think pharmacists, like I'm
coming to you from Attoa to day, but Ontario is
not all that different. I called my pharmacy today because
I was ordering a prescription refill and I went on
the automated system, and I always am reminded when I'm
on that system that you can push a button and
talk to a pharmacist within a reasonable amount of time,
(39:20):
maybe two minutes, depends how busy the line is to
get some kind of initial consultation. I mean that didn't
exist ten fifteen years ago.
Speaker 9 (39:29):
It does now, do you How do you, guys keep
making the case that you can do more, just what
you're doing now, coming on talking publicly about it, soliciting
politicians during election campaigns.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
How do you make the case that you can do more?
Speaker 8 (39:46):
I mean, at the end of the day, as you said,
we are the most accessible healthcare professional out there. I
think we've shown time and time again that each time
we have been given an opportunity from government, often that
we have a advocated for, but we've always rose to
the occasion. So like if you take a look at
flu shots and COVID shots, when we were granted universal coverage,
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we rose to the occasion and we are immunizing so
many people that likely would not have sought out flu
or COVID shots otherwise because they come into their pharmacy
for their prescription refill, or they pop into the pharmacy
because it's down the road from them and they can,
depending on the pharmacy, walk in, or they can go
online and make an appointment or call in and make
(40:31):
an appointment. So the accessibility is really increasing vaccination in
our province. First of all, Then if you look at
us getting I think it was about two years ago
we got the coverage of eight common ailments that we
can assess and prescribe for that was covered under funding
from the government. There's actually thirty three common ailments we
(40:52):
can assess them prescribe for, just not all are currently covered.
But if you take a look specifically at UTIs as
an example, which is some thing that can be fairly common,
it needs to be treated, and often people are ending
up in emergency waiting rooms or seeking out walking clinics,
trying to get in for a last minute appointment with
their doctor. They're calling us and we've actually assessed and
(41:15):
potentially prescribed for thirty thousand residents in this province. So
that's thirty thousand appointments or people in waiting rooms that
we've helped out with. So you know, it's definitely challenging.
You know, we have to do a lot. We also
have issues with you know, pharmacist shortages, but we do
always manage to rise to the occasion. I think the
(41:37):
proof is simply in our numbers.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
Yeah, I think that's true. Okay, I got about a
minute here. If anybody hasn't voted and they're about to
go out and they want to know what parties have
said to you about the questions you asked, where can
they go to have a quick look.
Speaker 8 (41:54):
So on our website panel dot net, we do have
this available and we actually did circular all the information
to our pharmacy members. Obviously, we understand that this is
something that's pertinent for them in the election as it's
their job and something that's you know, they it's very
important to them, so we have circulated all that information
(42:15):
last week. So you know, I hope people take that
into mind. Look at you know, each party's stances, their platforms,
and you know, I think healthcare is always going to
be an important issue in this province. That's clear because
it's such a big topic. Every single election, so I
think you know you need to focus on that and
who you think is going to do the best going
(42:35):
forward for our province and the healthcare in our province.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Well, thank you for soliciting that. That's a lot of
important information for people to look at. Thank you for
what you do and thank you Ashley for joining us today.
Appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (42:47):
You have a good day, Thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
All right, that's doctor Ashley Wagner, Panel President Pharmacists Association
of Newfoundland and Labrador. We're going to come back and
talk about a supper club service in Mount Pearl. Back
with that in a moment on the Tim Power Show,
The Tim Power Show, Joining the Conversation weekday afternoons at
four pm on your VOCM. You got three hours and
(43:12):
four minutes to vote. If you haven't go out and
do it, we're going to tell you about a different
story though. Now when that's pretty uplifting. The Mount Pearl
Community Supper is happening tomorrow night, four thirty to five
thirty at the Church of Ascension on Smallwood Drive, and
one of the people behind it is Scott Hillier. He's
a local businessman. He's one of the owners of Coffee
(43:32):
matters great spot by the way, Scott quite enjoy going in.
Tell us about this supper and how it all started.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, So, our Mount Pearl Community Supper Program is a
program that we founded about seven years ago and it's
a collaboration of myself that spearheads it along with seven
churches in Mount.
Speaker 3 (43:53):
Pearl and there clearly was in need. Does your supper
helps in part address this need? Tell us a bit
about that and who else is involved.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Yeah, So, I mean it's a you know, it's a
charity that we have started here around Pearl. You know,
it's locally ran by all volunteers and we get sponsors.
But most recently we are now part of a rescue
food program. So we get calls from different suppliers, different
(44:31):
wholesalers with food that if we don't take it goes
to the garbage. So we rescue it and then we
start making meals out of that food.
Speaker 5 (44:42):
So when the.
Speaker 6 (44:43):
Program started, Tim, we were serving in health and we
were serving about seventy five to one hundred people. The
program then became then COVID hit, so then that changed everything.
So then I was able to get the Salvation Army
emergency truck, so we would move from parking lot to
(45:03):
parking lot in Mount Pearl, serving just soup and sandwiches,
those types of things during COVID, and then when COVID
was over, we then decided we would just do a
takeout program so on an average, so we do this
every second Wednesday, and our numbers last year grew to
about three hundred and speculating by the number of messages
(45:27):
that I've gotten over the last week or so, Tomorrow
night we're going to do three hundred and fifty turkey dinners.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah, and it's the Thanksgiving treat. As you say, now,
I understand it's for residence residents, excuse me, Scott, for
Mount Pearl, but no one is turned the way and.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Kim the reason we say it's for Mount Pearl, and
again anybody is welcome, but there's no such program in
Mount pearol And everybody thinks about poverty and they look
at the big cities and you know, but there's homelessness
in Mount Pearl just as much as there is in
Saint John's or anywhere else in the city. But as
you know, there's many avenues for people who live in
(46:05):
Saint John's to be able to get a free meal
and right now we are the only organization that provides
such a meal in Mount Pearl.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Well, good on you and everybody involved. Again tomorrow four
thirty to five thirty Church of Ascension Thanksgiving treat Baked
turkey with dressing, gravy, mashed potatoes, veggie, sweet and a
sweet and a dinner. All sounds pretty damn good. Scott,
Thank you for sharing this, Thank you for what you're doing.
Speaker 6 (46:33):
Yeah, we have do a huge shot out. Sobey's in
Mount Pearl have graciously donated the whole meal tomorrow evening.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
Well there you go. I used to work at Soby's
on Ropewalk Lane years ago. They were a good talking
They are great company. Thank you Scott, Thank you everybody
who's doing this.
Speaker 6 (46:49):
Thank you Tim. Thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
By bye, all right.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
That is Scott Hill here from the Mount Pearl Community Supper.
There you have it. If you're out in Mount Pearl
tomorrow night and are in need, you can go. Of course,
stay tuned tonight for our award winning VOCM coverage. We've
got our A plus team on this, led by Patty
and Linda and Richard and all the reporters everywhere. Brian Zach,
Greg they'll all bring you the election results. We'll dig
(47:16):
into it all tomorrow on this show. Thank you to Claudette.
Go vote for now. I'm Tim Power. Talk to you
tomorrow
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