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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Tim Power Show on your VOCM.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The views and opinions of this program are not necessarily those.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Of this station. Here's Tim.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hello everyone, it is Tuesday to day. I know that
I'm not screwing up the days. All of the medication
from the tooth extraction have worn off. My mouth feels good.
Some of you may not feel that, but I do. Today.
I am back to normal, whatever my normal is. God
help you all. So what do we have happening on
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this Tuesday, October seventh, Well, a lot, as you just
heard in the news. Brian talked about it. The President
of the United States and the Prime Minister of Canada
our meeting in Washington. Now, I haven't seen anything to
suggest it's over or ended, but the pre meeting press
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conference or pool spray from the White House entertaining perhaps encouraging,
though you have to be careful using that word when
referencing current relationships. The current relationship with the United States,
Donald Trump's Canadians will be happy, though he joked about
merging with Canada and a couple of other equips. Took
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a shot at dairy and the subsidies that are there,
but he and Mark Kearney flattered each other. Hopefully that
flattery will pay off for the rest of us, because
certainly there's been some criticism in Canada of the Prime
Minister for taking his elbows down. Though you hardly go
into the house you're visiting and smash the other guy
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in the face, although Donald Trump may do that, but
we don't do that. We don't do that even in
our worst days. We will have doctor Scott Matthews from
a Memorial University's Department of Political Science who studies US
politics on later to talk about all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, so have.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The beginning of the NHL season. Today, the Chicago Blackhawks
play the Stanley Cup champions Florida Panthers. First game of
the season. Connor Berdard against the Stanley Cup Panthers minus
Matthew to chuck that kick that kicks off the puck drops.
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Get your sports metaphors right, man. Puck drops at six
point thirty Newfoundland time and six o'clock in Labrador, and
then at nine o'clock in Labrador nine thirty on the island,
the Penguins and the Rangers. Tomorrow it's the Canadians and
the Leafs. We'll see how both those teams look, how
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are the Canadians with demoduff in the lineup on a
regular basis? And how are the Maple Leafs without Mitch Marner.
Lots of Newfouland fans for both those teams. So NHL
kicks off, if you can believe it. And in our
sports rap the Blue Jays face the Yankees at in
eight pm Eastern This all my times, nine o'clock in
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the Labrador, nine thirty on the island. So a lot
going on sports wise, politics wise. The advanced polls are
open now. You should participate if you can't vote on
voting day, October fourteenth. They're open in all forty districts
across the province eight am to eight pm on the island,
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seven thirty to seven thirty pm in Labrador. The last
election and thirty three thousand people voted in advanced polls.
We'll see how many vote now. Some frustration, I guess
you could call it that if people are engaged in
this election, which remains a question for me, but we
try and engage every day. Two of the parties haven't
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released full party platforms, that being the Conservatives and the PCs,
though they have released policies and promises just about every day.
I don't know if the modern public expects a full platform.
The NDP have felt they do, and they've put one
out and it's caused it. But you can do a
search on any search engine and I think you'll find
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out a fair bit of information about what the parties
have promised. But as it comes to the PCs in liberals,
it's at least not nicely packaged into a platform. If
that matters to you. It used to apparently matter to people.
Maybe not so much today, but that advanced poll is
happening to day and tomorrow shouldn't be forgotten. The provincial,
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sorry provincial, the municipal election in Saint John's is happening.
I do feel bad about that we've had prior to
the provincial election. A few people on who have been
running municipally should have done more.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Shame on me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I own that one to talk about that election, but
it's been bigfooted by the federal, by the provincial election
and previously by the federal election. Well, what will Saint
John's municipal council look like tomorrow after that's done, Because
of course tomorrow we also have the provincial debate, so
all of those things happening. Just before we go to
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our friend Zac Power for our daily update on the
election campaign. You heard also in the news about the
postal strike, and Brian reported some very important information. Still
a lot of people who get benefit checks by mail
and they're uncertain as to their status, or they may
be uncertain as to their status, and despite Canada Revenue
agencies encouragement to register with them, not everybody probably does
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that for a bunch of reasons, including our inherent suspicion
about sharing data with the government. But I do have
to wonder, and I'm not diminishing the concerns that people
have who get benefit checks, But.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Does anybody care the Canada Post is on strike? Does
anybody care? Particularly younger people who have found all kinds
of other means to conduct their business and the transfer
of funds and the paying of bills and the like.
I do wonder why there hasn't been more outrage over
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the Canada Post strike. Perhaps it is finally a reflection
of our times. The Canada Posts will continue to exist,
it continue to perform important services, but there are so
many alternative means for delivering information these days. The heft
and weight of a Canada post strike and the way
it once to influenced the organization and the way people
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looked at it once influenced the body politic is likely
gone anyway. That's my little opening commentary for now. Let's
bring on our friend Zach Power. Zach, how you doing today?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Doing good?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Tim keeping busy. I don't think I've ever had so
many papers in front of me speaking with you here today.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh okay, well, don't let me get in the way
of things. So I know that there was trades form
today for the leaders. I know Tony Wakem made a
big deal of having a media availability. I know they
dropped a lot of information. Who went to that form
and what did you learn? Or was it just the Conservatives?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
No, it was more than the Conservatives. We heard from
PC leader Tony Wakem. As you mentioned, Education Minister Bernard
Davis was also in attendance there for the Liberals, even though.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hogan was in town.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
NDP leader Jim Din did not make it to the conference,
so Ra Sharon, who is also in Virginia waters pleasant
Ville running against Bernie Davis, showed up to that event.
And we also heard from Independent MJA Paul Lane, who
was all at that event, and all three of them
really doubled down on what we hear from their parties
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and what will be in their party platforms. We'll talk
about that in a minute. And we also heard from
Tony Wakem, which was kind of interesting, who said that
he was going to do the Churchill falls MoU on
his own terms. We know that in past he's talked
about a referendum, and he said that right from the
get go, but we haven't really heard a whole lot
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as to what otherwise. I know that there has been
some indications here and there, but for him to come
out and say that he wants to do it on
his own terms, and he said that he I don't
want to misquote, but he's said along the lines of
we won't get bullied by Quebec on this. So that
was all interesting banter that we heard from the Conservatives,
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the progssic conservatives, I should say, But otherwise it was
pretty well sticking to the script for all four I
guess of those leaders.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's interesting on mister Wakem because one of the criticisms
the Liberals have put at the feet of the Conservatives
and others have mused is that mister Wakem hasn't said
fully that he would tear up this MoU either, So
now we have the referendum position we have, he would
do his own position. I suppose that is an evolution.
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The argument that I have heard made is that mister
Wakem also wants to be careful about offending people around
the prospects of employment that come from all of that.
Are we getting any since Zach that the MOLU is
getting traction or everybody's just trying to not fall in
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to a bigger debate about it, though the liberals seemingly
would like one.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I really think that we're falling into a big debate
on this, and it doesn't matter what side of the
coin you stand on. I think that there's a debate
by both sides that is increasingly becoming a little louder
in the past couple of days. I know this morning
we heard a lot of comments from Michael Wilson on
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Patty Daily's show. We've heard the back and forth between
Hydro and now Group of Nine. We've been hearing from
the Group of Seven before and with all these trades
announcements that we've been hearing over the past couple of
days on both sides of the coins.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We've been hearing a.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Lot about the MoU be at four or against it,
So I believe that this really has started to heat
up over the past couple days. Have we learned a
whole lot? Have we added any proper dialogue, some supporting foundations?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Maybe maybe not, but that's what.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
We've been hearing over the past few days.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you mused about platforms. What are you hearing about
platforms before we get to mister dinn and the premiere?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yes, yeah, so we're going to get the final of
the platforms. Tomorrow is going to be the big day.
PC leader Tony Wakem said that he's already been announcing
many parts of his platform throughout the course of the
election campaign. So if that's an indication of what we're
going to see tomorrow, it might be a whole lot
of what has already been announced. And we also heard
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from Liberal leader John Hogan who also announced something similar,
saying that he is also going to release his tomorrow.
Both of those before the TV debate or I guess
the All Leaders Debate because.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It is going to be on VOC Radio two.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yes, yeah, I'm so used to saying TV debate, but
that is, so we will see that tomorrow. It's going
to be interesting to see what's actually in that if
it's pretty well copy paste from their websites, or is
it actually going to be a little more structured than that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So, speaking of the liberal leader, the premier, what was
he up to today?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, so he was announcing some new supports for the
tech sector today, So he wants to create a provincial
technology innovation strategy. And he also talked about defense spending
and some defense mechanisms and defending the Arctic, which was
really another playbook out of the federal government's textbook from
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what we've been seeing on that sort of thing. So
as of now he's announcing some new at least new
strategies in terms of technology and defense.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And mister din what was he doing.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, and this is probably one of the more interesting
ones of the day, at least from a you know,
a lover of politics. He really harped on liberal donors
today and they've actually created a website called who paid
for the bus dot ca uh. He noted that a
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number of political donors have been paying for the Liberals
to travel around on the bus. He said that the
PCs were no better and if you go to their website,
it's a pretty straightforward, built in an hour kind of
website with a picture of Hogan and the bus and
a link to all the liberal donors. So we know
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that this has been a strategy from NDP leader jimmed
In for or quite some time throughout the course of
this campaign. So it's not really surprising that we get
this website, but for it to be so appropriately named,
I guess, and to be here today.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, a little bit of humor.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
A little bit of humor, that's not a bad thing,
and maybe it we'll get some people riled up. Are
you asking who siphoned the gas for the NDP or No? No,
they must have electric cars, do they, Zach? I mean,
Jim didn't. Can't be going around using a gas gusling car.
What do we know there?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, I believe he drives a truck and I believe
it is gas.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So shock go shock.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Just teasing Jim and the NDP having a bit of fun,
all right, And just last question for you. As you said,
Mike Wilson was on with Patty today. He clearly has
taken the view, mister Wilson, that he wants to be
able to share as much as he can. Are we
finding what he's hearing clear is his storytelling helping people
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understand at least his perspective from what you're seeing and hearing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I think so, I think that there's a lot of
clarification that was given. I mean, this is one of
the first times that he's spoken to the media since
this has all happened, and since he's released that letter.
He called on John Hogan to release some of the
terms in that letter. He's asking for a lot of clarity.
And we obviously know the side of the coin that
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he sits on with this and some of the position
and the position that he does take on this. But
what we've been seeing and hearing from him is that
he really does want to have this to be clear
and put in front of the public so they can
make an informed decision on it.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
All right, clinching or not? Tonight?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Do the Yankees win or does Bieber get that win?
And Toronto prepares for whomever comes next.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Well, they have to win because I can't flip between
them and sometimes game, so it's going to have to
be one or the other.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh, now, Zach, we don't have to do an intervention
please please tell me you're not a Leafs fan, not
another VOSM Leafs fan, no.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Big Montreal Canadians fan. So it's all good.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I mean yes, they played their senators. Well, okay,
that's all right. Coome Man.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know we do have Greg Smith and Greg Greg
is just misdirecting his young son Levi with the Leafs.
But we've got all winter to talk about that, Zach.
Thank you, appreciate the time. Thanks Tim, take care. When
we come back, Trump and Carney will talk to Scott
Matthews from Memorial University about whyatt is important to go
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to Washington when you get an invite and what may
matter coming out of this meeting. Back with doctor Scott
Matthews in a moment. As we know, Prime mister Carney
is in Washington meeting President Trump. He was invited to
go down, he accepted that invitation and he is there now.
Donald Trump tells us that Canada is going to be
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very happy. Well, we shall see to talk about the
dynamics of these sorts of meetings and offer other insight.
We're joined by doctor Scott Matthews, Professor and head at
the Department of Political Science. Scott, how are you today.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm good. How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I am good?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Just maybe for a bit of a scene set here,
because there's been a bit of commentary related to the
contemporary domestic politics of the day of you know, why
should Mark Arney jet off to Washington again and why
is he just going down to have lunch. It's a
gross simplification of the complexity of Canada US diplomacy. So
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let me ask you this, Scott. When the US President
calls a Canadian prime minister and says, would you come
to Washington and have lunch with me?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Why do you say yes?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I mean, it's kind of hard to imagine any prime
minister ever having sort of said no to a request
like that from a US president, and it would be
I think especially reckless for this prime minister with this
president to say no.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I mean, it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Seems really clear that personal relationships matter, uh, and and
kind of being in the President's face, being in his
company regularly, you know, provided things go well, that that's
a very good thing. I think that, you know, Zelenski
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is this kind of study. And in this year, with
his initial meeting very sour, things went really sideways for
Ukraine in the relationship with the US following that very
testy exchange in the Oble Office, But since then, the
personal contact that that they had recently seems to have
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made all the difference in that relationship. And so I
think for US, Trump seems to uh think well of Carney,
and they seem to interact, you know, in a way
that that makes Trump feel good, and so just renewing
that friendship I think is worth it. I mean, it's
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I think things have wrapped up without any big announcements today,
but I think that's okay. I think that's strange kind
of in historical perspective, but I think that's okay. It's
just that you know, uh, you know, Trump is still hopefully,
you know, feeling kind of well disposed toward Canada and
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our interests and toward Carney. You know, I'm happy to
take the win.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just I think there's something really instructive in what you said.
There's a lot of things, but what I want to
zone in on because we'd live and you live it
every day with your your students and your colleagues. We
live in this intermediated world where people now almost are
more comfortable to to text or to have video calls,
but in this world of global diplomacy, particularly with men
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of Trump's age, Uh, personal relationships are still so vital.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I mean I wouldn't want to generalize too much,
but I would say that for Trump, I think it's
really important. I mean, he doesn't, you know, he doesn't
follow a normal pattern of diplomacy where a lot of
the real work happens, yes, to say the least, but
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specifically a lot of the real work, you know, happens elsewhere.
There's real delegation that goes on, uh, and you know
a lot of the you know, deals happen away from
public view. I think with Trump, we we know, no
one can be really confident that anyone is speaking uh,
speaking for him, and they're speaking with his confidence. And
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so I think, you know, I think the fact that
our Prime minister seems to be on good terms with Trump,
you know, it doesn't necessarily mean we're going to get
back to the kind of terms of trade in particular
that we enjoyed last year, but I think that you know,
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it is uh, you know, I think it's it's really
important that we maintained that. I think that's kind of
a strength in our relationship, you know. And then Trump
has recently, you know, increased some of the tariffs or
added you know, on on soft of lumber in one case,
added tariffs on other categories of goods at the same time.
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So I think it's a moment to get back into
into his orbit and just emphasize again how how important
this relationship is, you know, how much there is at
stake on both sides.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Does it matter at all?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
The second last question for Scott, does it matter at
all that, look, there's a there's an audience in Canada
and certainly an emotional attitude, and we probably have all
at moments felt this way you know that wants the
elbows up approach. Whatever that is almost assuming you go
into as a guest into somebody else's house and you
you know, lay your neighbor out, your your neighbor out
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on the floor. Carnie seems to have taken the approach
that he's going to flatter the man, he's going to
work to use what seems to work with Donald Trump
to get something positive for Canada. Does does it matter
in a material way that we are not being perhaps
as pushy and forceful in the way we encounter Trump
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in a personal way represented by the Prime Minister.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, I think I think he is probably playing
the hand that he's been dealt Carney here. I mean,
I think in the early days, uh, you know, Prime
mister Trudeau, and then of course Carney's rhetoric during the
election campaign, you know, it seemed like we might not
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be going it alone, uh, and that we'd have our
traditional allies with us similarly you know, laying uh, you know,
retaliatory tariffs on the US for instance. In the end,
we seem to be the only one of our you know,
among our traditional allies pursuing that strategy. And I think
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it's it's not one that Canada can really effectively pursue, uh,
you know, in isolation, you know, the the UK uh
and and others have accepted a certain level of tariffs
Japan as well, you know, and and so you know,
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that kind of I think has changed the context or
elbows up kind of approach and what we can reasonably
expect to get out of the US. Uh. And so
I am skeptical that we can be much more aggressive
with the US than the r being. I mean, we
are we still are maintaining tariffs on a few categories
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of goods and we're you know, we we don't have
terrible terms of trade for the most part with the US,
as the Prime Minister likes to point out, we're on
average trading on the best terms, you know, And so
I think we be glad for what we've got, hoping
to hold.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
On to that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Uh and uh, you know, I think I don't know.
I mean, I'm hopeful that these continued good relations mean
that we can maintain the U. S m c A
or some version of it when it's up for negotiation,
you know, but you know, at this point, you know,
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it's hard to be really certain. But yeah, I guess
my my answer is I'm skeptical that a more aggressive line,
especially an outwardly aggressive line that Trump would get us anywhere.
I mean, we're still kind of cutting our own path,
you know, with the retaliatory tariffs and in others are
means such as in relation to recognizing the palace inan
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state that didn't please the President. But you know, at
the same time, I think, you know, trying to keep
the peace is important.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
We got about a minute for this. What are you
watching for now to see how this meeting may have gone?
Are we're all just going to wait to see if
there's a truth social at about eleven o'clock the evening
proclaiming proclaiming Canada is a laggard or a relateationships are brilliant.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
What what are you looking for in the immediate term.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Scott, Yeah, that's that's a really good, good point. I
think I may maybe I will look out for that
because Trump did say today that you know, Canada is
going to love us again. There's something big. He likes
to make an announcement. So maybe the President will have
something to tell us later in the day. I mean,
so far there's not a whole lot. Maybe he'll wait
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until the middle of the g IS game more. Maybe
it'll depend on the outcome of the Jeze Yankees change.
Who knows. But yeah, so maybe something will emerge or
nothing and nothing, you know, with this president is sometimes
good news.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yep, that's true. Silence is golden, as they say. All right,
Scott Matthews, appreciate the time. Thank you very much, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That's doctor Scott Matthews from Memorial University talking about the
President Prime Minister meeting today. When we come back to
talk to our friends at the Association of New Canadians
about a mock election. They are holding back with that.
In a moment on the Tim.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Power Show.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Elections, Elections, Elections, they're everywhere, including at the Association of
New Canadians where they had a mock election today, and
we're joined by Leo etch Gary who's the director of
Language Services at ANC.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Tell us about the mock election.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Actually we're having it tomorrow, Tim Oh, gotcha. So basically
tomorrow what we're going to have is that now the
teachers have been busy explaining the process to our students.
Now these are all non Canadian citizens, so this is
going to be a mock provincial election. We live in
Saint John's E's KDVIDI, So basically we're going to We've
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set up our cafeteria like a polling booth, polling area
and it looks a lot like you would find in
any polling area in a Newfland, Labrador. And so these
class will go down. They will have a voter information
card which we a will give to another person and
then they ask for their ID. They'll vote in the election.
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They'll go to behind, you know with the with the
ballot box and the voter screen and you know, we
try to make it as outlandic as possible for these newcomers,
to make them feel like they're actually part of you know,
part of our country.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, and how engaged are they? I have?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I asked this with the assumption that they are pretty engaged,
because I find a lot of people I've always known
through the ants are very fascinated in the communities and
the countries they're coming to, particularly Newfoundland and Laborador. So
are these students excited to be part of this leo?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Oh? Absolutely, because many have never voted in an election
in their home country, so they come here and they're
really really engaged to do so, and they're really interested
in how we vote in you know, the different parties.
For example, we're in Saint John Di's Kididiti. So they
look at the look at the three people who are running,
look at their platforms, and then you know, we explain
here's here's the information. You decide how you want to
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vote based on, you know, what you think is important.
And they're really interested. They're really down it. Actually this year,
I guess it's a it's a big year. I'm voting
because we had the federal election, federal one. Now we're
now we're having the provincial plus the municil elections. So
they do tell me that this is a lot of elections.
This is not normal, but of course it's not almost
just this year. So but they know, they're engaged, and
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you know, I think it's important because you know, as Canadians,
we grow up, we learned about the election process and
we learned about it from our families and schools. But
as newcomers, they really don't get an opportunity to do this.
So I guess what we're doing is we're preparing them
to when they become Canadian citizens, to make an informed
decision about voting. And I think it's you know, it's
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really worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, you've done it before. I've talked to some of
your colleagues before on this. I love when you do it.
And it's funny you say, so many elections. Yeah, we're
like the cost co of elections go out, you'll find
another election today, and so yeah, we are. We are
living the democratic dream or nightmare for some perhaps because
they keep hearing about elections. You said platforms. It's interesting, Leo,
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because as you know, there's one platform out to aren't
but there's lots of policy information. Are you getting asked questions?
Are you and fellow staff and the Newfoundlanders and Laboradorians
who are working at ANC just getting asked more information
information about the province that our people are using to
help contextualize their choice.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Absolutely, I mean they're concerned about the same things that
we will be concerned about, the cost of living and
cost of housing, housing, our food, you know, the cause
of buying clothing, going to a store. So they're asking
questions about Okay, even if their language is not up
to power, say they don't have enough language level to
understand what's going on, they do ask you know, so
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what does this person say about the coast of living
and how they're going to make the cost go down
and that kind of stuff. So the main issue is
just you know, is money, is the economics, and you know,
about jobs in the future, because that's what they our
newcomers want, is a decent job, a decent living wage
in a great country. Also hope like Canada, you.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Know, and you've picked a fun riding too. Geographically, I
mean that's the one where there's a contest potentially. I
mean it was helped by John Abbott. Now John Whalen,
new Liberal candidate trying to win it against well known
deputy former de she's still Deputy mayor Sheila O'Leary of
Saint John's And that one has gone back and forth
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NDP Liberal for occasionally years ago. It used to be
a PC seed. Have people looking at the history and
the personalities there too. What questions you're getting about.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
That they don't really talk much about personalities. They're more
at this point and about their platforms. And to be
quite honest with we're trying to stay away from personalities
to charge it, make it as as fair as possible.
And but no, they're engaged and they really want they
take this seriously, and you know, like last time we
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did it, they you know, people will bring in their
family members who are here and maybe they're not in
our school, but you know they're not Canadian assistants, but
they still want to take part in this mock election.
So it's really important they enjoy it. We've got a
great bunch of teachers who have taken this on.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
We have an.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Organized as organizing committee of many who have just put
this together. And if you went to our cafeteria now
you would see, you know, the flags, Canadian flag and
for Land flag. We've got the ballot boxes, the voting screens,
and all the clients are becoming clients, but there are students.
They're taking part like they're going to be the scrutineers.
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They're going to be the welcomers. They're going to be
the checking the ideas, the folding the ballots. And actually
we also have developed look exactly like you would in
any election for Saint John D's kiddy VIDDI. So this
is part of a cross Canada actually is doing this
across Canada and we have one hundred I think other
schools in newfoland Labrador are actually doing this taking part.
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So we tellitated results, but we can't announce the results
until after the election's over.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's yeah, certainly, particularly without writing. I will tell you this, Leo,
and I'll let you go. If you guys can successfully
keep personalities out of Newfoundland and Labrador, apologics, take this
model and bring it to every one of the forty districts,
because that will be a first. I think it's awesome
what you're doing. Thank you for joining us in good
luck tomorrow with the mock election.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I really appreciate your interest in this, Tim, Thank you all.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Right, take care. That is Leo Etchuguerry. Leo's the director
of Languages Language Services at the Association of New Canadians. Now,
before I bring on our friend Charlie Byrne, let me
just give you a traffic update. There is a fender
bendor at Austin Street near Thorburn Road. Austin Street near
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Thorburn Road. I have three different spellings of Thorburn By
the way, Hey, Greg, learn how to spell. I'm gonna
be in so much trouble Charlie. How are you today?
Charlie Byrne, our friend from a global public affairs been long,
long involvement in Newfoundland and Labrador politics, mostly on the
liberal side. Charlie, wouldn't it be amazing if we could
have a Newfoundland and Labrador election where personalities were involved.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't know if it's possible, but.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
God bless the people at the ANC for just looking
at platforms and ideas. Though I have to say this,
my friend, I don't know what I I had Eddie
Joyce on last week and I'm still thinking about what
Eddie said. And Eddie said to me that this is
the strange as Newfoundland and Labrador election, he has said,
because you know, the normal kind of energy, the rallies,
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the dominant personalities aren't a prominent or existence in this
existence in this campaign. And that's not to take away
from the people who are there, it's not to take
away from the leader's styles.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
But does it feel different to you too?
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Yeah, Tim, Well, listen, thank thanks for having me on.
First of all, And I think there's a bit of
election fatigue this year.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Maybe.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
You know, we did have a very dramatic first half
of twenty twenty five with privateiter Trudeau stepping down, you know,
President Trump and all the fun things he was saying,
and sort of Mark Karney pulling off this this you know,
miracle political comeback, and then we've got the municipal election,
We've had, you know, Premier Fury stepping down and Premier
Hogan becoming the leader of the Liberal Party. So there's
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been a lot for people to take in. And I think,
you know, to your point this, I think would be
a time when some of the parties might have wanted
to capture a certain narrative, Like if you look at
the Conservatives, I think they would have wanted to capture
a change narrative. I think it's fair to say, but
I don't know necessarily that they've had the energy to
do that. And I look at some of the folks
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that have been out there with them, you know, that
have been there from the past. They're running some candidates
that run ten years ago. You've got folks like Danny Williams.
It doesn't exactly screen change. So that's that's one area
I think where maybe the narrative fell down a little bit,
I think for them. And then if you look at
the Liberals, they're probably okay with it being a little
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bit lower energy. I mean, they're running a bit of
a safe campaign. So I don't know that the Tories
have been able to break through and get people to
pay attention. And I don't know necessarily that the Liberals
have wanted people to be super engaged to pay attention.
That usually favors the incumbents. And do you add on
the crazy year we have. I think that all adds
up to a bit of an apathetic electorate at this point.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And no polls other than the narrative poll that was
focused on August though MQO. Now you no, you guys
didn't own or did your former company own MQO.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I can't recall ye, yeah, five M five doesn't want
m du a research yet.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So they're they're apparently dropping a poll. Maybe you've seen it,
maybe I haven't, but all okay.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
But it's unders saying there's something in the field and
it'll be out soon, but I haven't seen it now.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, So the one thing we do know is coming tomorrow.
So you have been around politics for a while debates.
I've asked people who are experts in this, and I
would consider you as an expert practitioner of Newfoundland and
Lebrador politics. Tomorrow if people watch and listen because it's
on the VOC and radio service, how important could this
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be given the anecdotal talk that this election is close, Yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I do think it's a close rate to be fair,
I think this is an opportunity now for people to
tune in like all debates are, and I think if
you and I are right, Neddie Joyce is right that
maybe people aren't exactly paying it to and it could
be pretty important. I think you know, if you're John Hogan,
he is the incumbent, and incumbents typically get bet up
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on on all sides, so you can expect that. I
think tomorrow night you'll see Tony Wakem take some shots
at him. You see Jim didn't take some shots at him,
So I think he's got to be able to keep
his cool there and and you know, it's a good
opportunity for him to challenge I think his main rival here,
Tony Wakem, on some things that he hasn't so far done.
And for Tony Wakem, I mean his final audition really
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for the job, and he needs to show people that
he's ready for the big chair, and he needs to
be ready to defend some of what he's committed to
in terms of spending. And if you look at the NDP,
although their main rival really if you look at the
seats there, actor are the Liberals, say Saint John D's
Katie Biddy. Their main competition there is a Liberal, But
the NDP are in favor of the Church Will falls
MoU as are the Liberals. So I would expect that
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Tony Wakem will kind of be the odd man out
on that one tomorrow. But yeah, I do think in
the case of this electure, where people probably have been
too tuned in, it could be somewhat important Tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Let's just look you openly, you called when it was done.
You're proponent of the MoU, you have been vocal about
it and it's importance. They're you know, clear lines drawn
between people who support it and don't support it, and
there's lots of history around that, lots of community leaders
from different eras who've come forward and said it's bad.
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You have, mister Wilson, others all to say, Charlie, I
am struggling. I'm not there every day like you are,
but I'm struggling to figure out if this is actually
connecting with people who are going to grocery stores and foods.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Up four percent and.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Gas is still expensive even though there have been some breaks,
and you know, their mortgages are a little bit better
because the prime rate's down, but they're they're worried.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Is the mo o you central in this election campaign?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Do you think?
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Well? Tim, I think you know, as a society now,
we have a bit of an attention problem on everything, right,
Like we have all these crazy big things happening every
five minutes, and your attention turns to something else in
terms to absorb it. So I think the challenge for
the Liberal Party has been to connect the MoU to
all those things you just said, right, so outlining how
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you know, more revenue will connect to you know, more
teachers and more nurses and more doctors. If you look
at the Conservatives, I found it kind of interesting that
they are the ones sort of you know, saying that
they're going to spend all these money on different things,
almost as if they were going to sign the deal,
right because it's good an extra billion dollars, But they're
not really for the deal. So I don't know. I
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would say it is an issue for some people and
be interesting to see how it goes tomorrow night. I
think it is the opportunity for Premier Hogan to you know,
tie that up in a bow from a narrative perspective
and explain why this is important to the province. Explain
why it's would be you know, it should be something
that people face the decision on. But yeah, whether or
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not it's breaking through them and you hear different things.
If I could just make one point of families that
I don't think that gets made is the political reality
of this, right, Like if you look at Quebec, Quebec
has made this deal and there's this idea that there's
a better deal out there to be had. Next year,
there's a very strong likelihood that the party at Quebec
QUA is going to win the general election in Quebec.
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They are people will know them as sort of the
separatist party. They have said that this deal is bad
for Quebec, so they want a different deal. And if
anybody thinks that the PQ is going to give us
a better deal than what's there now, I mean, it's
just it's not realistic. So I think that's something that
we don't talk about often or not. And then you know,
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if you're not a observer of Quebec politics, you might
not know that. But that's something that people should keep
in mind because there probably isn't another deal to be
had for a very long time, and by that point
in time, the value of the ass that may be
quite different. So I think that's the point that could
be made a bit better fusing the political rida here.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, and Premier the Quebec Premier Lego is their current
Quebec as third and Quebec polling.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
All right, Charlie, gotta leave it there.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I'm sure you, me and six other people will be
watching tomorrow night. Are listening on VOC I appreciate it.
Take care, buddy, take care, all right, I'm joking about that.
I hope you all try and tune in. Yat leaves
Canadians a big job. It'll be done before that as
well the jays that they're playing tomorrow night. But debates
are important. Elections are important. I'm sure you're sick to
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be saying that, but hey, we do have a lot
on the table. When we come back. We're going to
talk to Karen Storwick. She is the producer of a
fascinating film on Afghanistan and it's called Heroes Their Journey Home.
You're going to fall on Heroes Their Journey Home. We're
going to talk to Karen in a moment here on
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the Tim Power Show.
Speaker 5 (42:03):
The Tim Power Show, Joining the Conversation weekday afternoons at
four pm on your VOCM.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
There was a time when we talked a lot about
the war in Afghanistan, the conflicts there and the Canadian
blood that was spilled. Over one hundred and fifty Canadians
died in afghan Afghanistan Fallen Heroes Their Journey Home is
coming to the Gower Theater on the eighteenth of October.
It's a ninety minute documentary about the Canadian Armed Forces
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in Afghanistan. Please to be joined by Karen Storwick, the producer.
Karen is with Combined Forces Production Collaborative. Karen, I look
forward to seeing this and hearing hearing the stories that
you've collected.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Tell us about the film.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Oh, thanks very much for having me this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
We're a military history team from Calgary and we were
contracted by the fedral government to interview Afghanistan veterans across
the country in twenty sixteen, as we were going to
use that interview material.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
To create the audio.
Speaker 8 (43:13):
Visual content for a national touring exhibit called Mission Afghanistan,
which is now on the road. But while we were interviewing,
literally every story that we heard was jaw dropping and
there was so much left on the cutting room floor
when we were creating the exhibit content that we felt
we felt compelled we had to make a story that
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we could bring to Canadians that really helped drive home
what our soldiers, what are men and women in uniform
experienced in Afghanistan. There's so much to be proud of
and we are just so privileged to have been able
to share in so much of that pride, the tears.
We did incredible things over there.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
I'm based in Ottawa. I drive down the Highway of
Heroes often and remember seeing those processions of those wonderful
fallen heroes come home. I have friends who have served
in Afghanistan, and if there ever were a conflict where
we would have the ability to richly document it, it
would be Afghanistan. So people who go and see this
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at the Gower Theater on the eighteenth of October, what
are they going to see?
Speaker 8 (44:28):
Karen, Well, it's a great question because while this isn't
a comprehensive history of the war in Afghanistan, I mean,
we were there almost fifteen years and this just touches
the tip of the iceberg. What we really want is
we really want people to come and see this film
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to get a sense of what it was like for
those who were there. They're going to see some examples
of some tough battles that we engaged in. Also going
to get a sense of the This this the grassroots
ceremonies that were developed by Canadians when we repreate, we
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repatriated our fallen and and and and It's it's really
interesting because the the Ramp ceremonies and the Highway of
Heroes UH form a big part of the kind of
the nexus of this story and and the film. And
it was this very heartfelt way that Canadians came together
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to honor our fallen and no other country in the
world was doing it like this, And in fact, other
countries started to pay attention look at what the Canadians
are doing, and and and and and and started to
model some of those same ceremonies and rituals. And so
we really want people to come and sit in in
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this movie and take away a sense of pride, pride
and country pride in our men and women in uniform.
And we really want people to see themselves as supporters
of our military and supporters of veterans causes, just as
we were not so long ago. But it's so easy
for us to forget.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, unless we forget such an important motto, all proceeds
will go towards Soldier On, which is an important organization.
I just did a run for them here in Ottawa.
Matters of History, October eighteenth, twenty twenty five, Gower Theater,
seven to eight thirty, doors open at six.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Karen.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I have to let you go, but I look forward
to seeing this and you continue this important work. It's
so vital to our understanding of our involvement in Afghanistan
and who we are today. Thank you for being with
us today.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Thank you so much, Really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
All Right, you take care. You're going to want to
see that film. It sounds like it will really strike
an important chord amongst us. All I hope our program
has done that for you today. Thank you to Claudette,
Thank you to everybody who was part of it. Back
and Zach of course, back tomorrow with more of the
Tim Power Show
This is the Tim Power Show on your VOCM.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The views and opinions of this program are not necessarily those.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Of this station. Here's Tim.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hello everyone, it is Tuesday to day. I know that
I'm not screwing up the days. All of the medication
from the tooth extraction have worn off. My mouth feels good.
Some of you may not feel that, but I do. Today.
I am back to normal, whatever my normal is. God
help you all. So what do we have happening on
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this Tuesday, October seventh, Well, a lot, as you just
heard in the news. Brian talked about it. The President
of the United States and the Prime Minister of Canada
our meeting in Washington. Now, I haven't seen anything to
suggest it's over or ended, but the pre meeting press
(00:56):
conference or pool spray from the White House entertaining perhaps encouraging,
though you have to be careful using that word when
referencing current relationships. The current relationship with the United States,
Donald Trump's Canadians will be happy, though he joked about
merging with Canada and a couple of other equips. Took
(01:20):
a shot at dairy and the subsidies that are there,
but he and Mark Kearney flattered each other. Hopefully that
flattery will pay off for the rest of us, because
certainly there's been some criticism in Canada of the Prime
Minister for taking his elbows down. Though you hardly go
into the house you're visiting and smash the other guy
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in the face, although Donald Trump may do that, but
we don't do that. We don't do that even in
our worst days. We will have doctor Scott Matthews from
a Memorial University's Department of Political Science who studies US
politics on later to talk about all of that.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Well, so have.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
The beginning of the NHL season. Today, the Chicago Blackhawks
play the Stanley Cup champions Florida Panthers. First game of
the season. Connor Berdard against the Stanley Cup Panthers minus
Matthew to chuck that kick that kicks off the puck drops.
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Get your sports metaphors right, man. Puck drops at six
point thirty Newfoundland time and six o'clock in Labrador, and
then at nine o'clock in Labrador nine thirty on the island,
the Penguins and the Rangers. Tomorrow it's the Canadians and
the Leafs. We'll see how both those teams look, how
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are the Canadians with demoduff in the lineup on a
regular basis? And how are the Maple Leafs without Mitch Marner.
Lots of Newfouland fans for both those teams. So NHL
kicks off, if you can believe it. And in our
sports rap the Blue Jays face the Yankees at in
eight pm Eastern This all my times, nine o'clock in
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the Labrador, nine thirty on the island. So a lot
going on sports wise, politics wise. The advanced polls are
open now. You should participate if you can't vote on
voting day, October fourteenth. They're open in all forty districts
across the province eight am to eight pm on the island,
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seven thirty to seven thirty pm in Labrador. The last
election and thirty three thousand people voted in advanced polls.
We'll see how many vote now. Some frustration, I guess
you could call it that if people are engaged in
this election, which remains a question for me, but we
try and engage every day. Two of the parties haven't
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released full party platforms, that being the Conservatives and the PCs,
though they have released policies and promises just about every day.
I don't know if the modern public expects a full platform.
The NDP have felt they do, and they've put one
out and it's caused it. But you can do a
search on any search engine and I think you'll find
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out a fair bit of information about what the parties
have promised. But as it comes to the PCs in liberals,
it's at least not nicely packaged into a platform. If
that matters to you. It used to apparently matter to people.
Maybe not so much today, but that advanced poll is
happening to day and tomorrow shouldn't be forgotten. The provincial,
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sorry provincial, the municipal election in Saint John's is happening.
I do feel bad about that we've had prior to
the provincial election. A few people on who have been
running municipally should have done more.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Shame on me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
I own that one to talk about that election, but
it's been bigfooted by the federal, by the provincial election
and previously by the federal election. Well, what will Saint
John's municipal council look like tomorrow after that's done, Because
of course tomorrow we also have the provincial debate, so
all of those things happening. Just before we go to
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our friend Zac Power for our daily update on the
election campaign. You heard also in the news about the
postal strike, and Brian reported some very important information. Still
a lot of people who get benefit checks by mail
and they're uncertain as to their status, or they may
be uncertain as to their status, and despite Canada Revenue
agencies encouragement to register with them, not everybody probably does
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that for a bunch of reasons, including our inherent suspicion
about sharing data with the government. But I do have
to wonder, and I'm not diminishing the concerns that people
have who get benefit checks, But.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
Does anybody care the Canada Post is on strike? Does
anybody care? Particularly younger people who have found all kinds
of other means to conduct their business and the transfer
of funds and the paying of bills and the like.
I do wonder why there hasn't been more outrage over
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the Canada Post strike. Perhaps it is finally a reflection
of our times. The Canada Posts will continue to exist,
it continue to perform important services, but there are so
many alternative means for delivering information these days. The heft
and weight of a Canada post strike and the way
it once to influenced the organization and the way people
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looked at it once influenced the body politic is likely
gone anyway. That's my little opening commentary for now. Let's
bring on our friend Zach Power. Zach, how you doing today?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Doing good?
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Tim keeping busy. I don't think I've ever had so
many papers in front of me speaking with you here today.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh okay, well, don't let me get in the way
of things. So I know that there was trades form
today for the leaders. I know Tony Wakem made a
big deal of having a media availability. I know they
dropped a lot of information. Who went to that form
and what did you learn? Or was it just the Conservatives?
Speaker 5 (07:16):
No, it was more than the Conservatives. We heard from
PC leader Tony Wakem. As you mentioned, Education Minister Bernard
Davis was also in attendance there for the Liberals, even though.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Hogan was in town.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
NDP leader Jim Din did not make it to the conference,
so Ra Sharon, who is also in Virginia waters pleasant
Ville running against Bernie Davis, showed up to that event.
And we also heard from Independent MJA Paul Lane, who
was all at that event, and all three of them
really doubled down on what we hear from their parties
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and what will be in their party platforms. We'll talk
about that in a minute. And we also heard from
Tony Wakem, which was kind of interesting, who said that
he was going to do the Churchill falls MoU on
his own terms. We know that in past he's talked
about a referendum, and he said that right from the
get go, but we haven't really heard a whole lot
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as to what otherwise. I know that there has been
some indications here and there, but for him to come
out and say that he wants to do it on
his own terms, and he said that he I don't
want to misquote, but he's said along the lines of
we won't get bullied by Quebec on this. So that
was all interesting banter that we heard from the Conservatives,
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the progssic conservatives, I should say, But otherwise it was
pretty well sticking to the script for all four I
guess of those leaders.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
That's interesting on mister Wakem because one of the criticisms
the Liberals have put at the feet of the Conservatives
and others have mused is that mister Wakem hasn't said
fully that he would tear up this MoU either, So
now we have the referendum position we have, he would
do his own position. I suppose that is an evolution.
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The argument that I have heard made is that mister
Wakem also wants to be careful about offending people around
the prospects of employment that come from all of that.
Are we getting any since Zach that the MOLU is
getting traction or everybody's just trying to not fall in
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to a bigger debate about it, though the liberals seemingly
would like one.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
I really think that we're falling into a big debate
on this, and it doesn't matter what side of the
coin you stand on. I think that there's a debate
by both sides that is increasingly becoming a little louder
in the past couple of days. I know this morning
we heard a lot of comments from Michael Wilson on
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Patty Daily's show. We've heard the back and forth between
Hydro and now Group of Nine. We've been hearing from
the Group of Seven before and with all these trades
announcements that we've been hearing over the past couple of
days on both sides of the coins.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
We've been hearing a.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Lot about the MoU be at four or against it,
So I believe that this really has started to heat
up over the past couple days. Have we learned a
whole lot? Have we added any proper dialogue, some supporting foundations?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Maybe maybe not, but that's what.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
We've been hearing over the past few days.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
So you mused about platforms. What are you hearing about
platforms before we get to mister dinn and the premiere?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yes, yeah, so we're going to get the final of
the platforms. Tomorrow is going to be the big day.
PC leader Tony Wakem said that he's already been announcing
many parts of his platform throughout the course of the
election campaign. So if that's an indication of what we're
going to see tomorrow, it might be a whole lot
of what has already been announced. And we also heard
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from Liberal leader John Hogan who also announced something similar,
saying that he is also going to release his tomorrow.
Both of those before the TV debate or I guess
the All Leaders Debate because.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
It is going to be on VOC Radio two.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Yes, yeah, I'm so used to saying TV debate, but
that is, so we will see that tomorrow. It's going
to be interesting to see what's actually in that if
it's pretty well copy paste from their websites, or is
it actually going to be a little more structured than that.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So, speaking of the liberal leader, the premier, what was
he up to today?
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Yeah, so he was announcing some new supports for the
tech sector today, So he wants to create a provincial
technology innovation strategy. And he also talked about defense spending
and some defense mechanisms and defending the Arctic, which was
really another playbook out of the federal government's textbook from
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what we've been seeing on that sort of thing. So
as of now he's announcing some new at least new
strategies in terms of technology and defense.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And mister din what was he doing.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah, and this is probably one of the more interesting
ones of the day, at least from a you know,
a lover of politics. He really harped on liberal donors
today and they've actually created a website called who paid
for the bus dot ca uh. He noted that a
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number of political donors have been paying for the Liberals
to travel around on the bus. He said that the
PCs were no better and if you go to their website,
it's a pretty straightforward, built in an hour kind of
website with a picture of Hogan and the bus and
a link to all the liberal donors. So we know
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that this has been a strategy from NDP leader jimmed
In for or quite some time throughout the course of
this campaign. So it's not really surprising that we get
this website, but for it to be so appropriately named,
I guess, and to be here today.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, a little bit of humor.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
A little bit of humor, that's not a bad thing,
and maybe it we'll get some people riled up. Are
you asking who siphoned the gas for the NDP or No? No,
they must have electric cars, do they, Zach? I mean,
Jim didn't. Can't be going around using a gas gusling car.
What do we know there?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, I believe he drives a truck and I believe
it is gas.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
So shock go shock.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Just teasing Jim and the NDP having a bit of fun,
all right, And just last question for you. As you said,
Mike Wilson was on with Patty today. He clearly has
taken the view, mister Wilson, that he wants to be
able to share as much as he can. Are we
finding what he's hearing clear is his storytelling helping people
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understand at least his perspective from what you're seeing and hearing.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
I think so, I think that there's a lot of
clarification that was given. I mean, this is one of
the first times that he's spoken to the media since
this has all happened, and since he's released that letter.
He called on John Hogan to release some of the
terms in that letter. He's asking for a lot of clarity.
And we obviously know the side of the coin that
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he sits on with this and some of the position
and the position that he does take on this. But
what we've been seeing and hearing from him is that
he really does want to have this to be clear
and put in front of the public so they can
make an informed decision on it.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
All right, clinching or not? Tonight?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Do the Yankees win or does Bieber get that win?
And Toronto prepares for whomever comes next.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
Well, they have to win because I can't flip between
them and sometimes game, so it's going to have to
be one or the other.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh, now, Zach, we don't have to do an intervention
please please tell me you're not a Leafs fan, not
another VOSM Leafs fan, no.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Big Montreal Canadians fan. So it's all good.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I mean yes, they played their senators. Well, okay,
that's all right. Coome Man.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
You know we do have Greg Smith and Greg Greg
is just misdirecting his young son Levi with the Leafs.
But we've got all winter to talk about that, Zach.
Thank you, appreciate the time. Thanks Tim, take care. When
we come back, Trump and Carney will talk to Scott
Matthews from Memorial University about whyatt is important to go
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to Washington when you get an invite and what may
matter coming out of this meeting. Back with doctor Scott
Matthews in a moment. As we know, Prime mister Carney
is in Washington meeting President Trump. He was invited to
go down, he accepted that invitation and he is there now.
Donald Trump tells us that Canada is going to be
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very happy. Well, we shall see to talk about the
dynamics of these sorts of meetings and offer other insight.
We're joined by doctor Scott Matthews, Professor and head at
the Department of Political Science. Scott, how are you today.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I'm good. How are you doing?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
I am good?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Just maybe for a bit of a scene set here,
because there's been a bit of commentary related to the
contemporary domestic politics of the day of you know, why
should Mark Arney jet off to Washington again and why
is he just going down to have lunch. It's a
gross simplification of the complexity of Canada US diplomacy. So
(16:40):
let me ask you this, Scott. When the US President
calls a Canadian prime minister and says, would you come
to Washington and have lunch with me?
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Why do you say yes?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I mean, it's kind of hard to imagine any prime
minister ever having sort of said no to a request
like that from a US president, and it would be
I think especially reckless for this prime minister with this
president to say no.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
I mean, it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Seems really clear that personal relationships matter, uh, and and
kind of being in the President's face, being in his
company regularly, you know, provided things go well, that that's
a very good thing. I think that, you know, Zelenski
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is this kind of study. And in this year, with
his initial meeting very sour, things went really sideways for
Ukraine in the relationship with the US following that very
testy exchange in the Oble Office, But since then, the
personal contact that that they had recently seems to have
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made all the difference in that relationship. And so I
think for US, Trump seems to uh think well of Carney,
and they seem to interact, you know, in a way
that that makes Trump feel good, and so just renewing
that friendship I think is worth it. I mean, it's
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I think things have wrapped up without any big announcements today,
but I think that's okay. I think that's strange kind
of in historical perspective, but I think that's okay. It's
just that you know, uh, you know, Trump is still hopefully,
you know, feeling kind of well disposed toward Canada and
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our interests and toward Carney. You know, I'm happy to
take the win.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Just I think there's something really instructive in what you said.
There's a lot of things, but what I want to
zone in on because we'd live and you live it
every day with your your students and your colleagues. We
live in this intermediated world where people now almost are
more comfortable to to text or to have video calls,
but in this world of global diplomacy, particularly with men
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of Trump's age, Uh, personal relationships are still so vital.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Well, I mean I wouldn't want to generalize too much,
but I would say that for Trump, I think it's
really important. I mean, he doesn't, you know, he doesn't
follow a normal pattern of diplomacy where a lot of
the real work happens, yes, to say the least, but
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specifically a lot of the real work, you know, happens elsewhere.
There's real delegation that goes on, uh, and you know
a lot of the you know, deals happen away from
public view. I think with Trump, we we know, no
one can be really confident that anyone is speaking uh,
speaking for him, and they're speaking with his confidence. And
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so I think, you know, I think the fact that
our Prime minister seems to be on good terms with Trump,
you know, it doesn't necessarily mean we're going to get
back to the kind of terms of trade in particular
that we enjoyed last year, but I think that you know,
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it is uh, you know, I think it's it's really
important that we maintained that. I think that's kind of
a strength in our relationship, you know. And then Trump
has recently, you know, increased some of the tariffs or
added you know, on on soft of lumber in one case,
added tariffs on other categories of goods at the same time.
(20:46):
So I think it's a moment to get back into
into his orbit and just emphasize again how how important
this relationship is, you know, how much there is at
stake on both sides.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Does it matter at all?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
The second last question for Scott, does it matter at
all that, look, there's a there's an audience in Canada
and certainly an emotional attitude, and we probably have all
at moments felt this way you know that wants the
elbows up approach. Whatever that is almost assuming you go
into as a guest into somebody else's house and you
you know, lay your neighbor out, your your neighbor out
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on the floor. Carnie seems to have taken the approach
that he's going to flatter the man, he's going to
work to use what seems to work with Donald Trump
to get something positive for Canada. Does does it matter
in a material way that we are not being perhaps
as pushy and forceful in the way we encounter Trump
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in a personal way represented by the Prime Minister.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
I mean, I think I think he is probably playing
the hand that he's been dealt Carney here. I mean,
I think in the early days, uh, you know, Prime
mister Trudeau, and then of course Carney's rhetoric during the
election campaign, you know, it seemed like we might not
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be going it alone, uh, and that we'd have our
traditional allies with us similarly you know, laying uh, you know,
retaliatory tariffs on the US for instance. In the end,
we seem to be the only one of our you know,
among our traditional allies pursuing that strategy. And I think
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it's it's not one that Canada can really effectively pursue, uh,
you know, in isolation, you know, the the UK uh
and and others have accepted a certain level of tariffs
Japan as well, you know, and and so you know,
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that kind of I think has changed the context or
elbows up kind of approach and what we can reasonably
expect to get out of the US. Uh. And so
I am skeptical that we can be much more aggressive
with the US than the r being. I mean, we
are we still are maintaining tariffs on a few categories
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of goods and we're you know, we we don't have
terrible terms of trade for the most part with the US,
as the Prime Minister likes to point out, we're on
average trading on the best terms, you know, And so
I think we be glad for what we've got, hoping
to hold.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
On to that.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Uh and uh, you know, I think I don't know.
I mean, I'm hopeful that these continued good relations mean
that we can maintain the U. S m c A
or some version of it when it's up for negotiation,
you know, but you know, at this point, you know,
(24:09):
it's hard to be really certain. But yeah, I guess
my my answer is I'm skeptical that a more aggressive line,
especially an outwardly aggressive line that Trump would get us anywhere.
I mean, we're still kind of cutting our own path,
you know, with the retaliatory tariffs and in others are
means such as in relation to recognizing the palace inan
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state that didn't please the President. But you know, at
the same time, I think, you know, trying to keep
the peace is important.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
We got about a minute for this. What are you
watching for now to see how this meeting may have gone?
Are we're all just going to wait to see if
there's a truth social at about eleven o'clock the evening
proclaiming proclaiming Canada is a laggard or a relateationships are brilliant.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
What what are you looking for in the immediate term.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Scott, Yeah, that's that's a really good, good point. I
think I may maybe I will look out for that
because Trump did say today that you know, Canada is
going to love us again. There's something big. He likes
to make an announcement. So maybe the President will have
something to tell us later in the day. I mean,
so far there's not a whole lot. Maybe he'll wait
(25:24):
until the middle of the g IS game more. Maybe
it'll depend on the outcome of the Jeze Yankees change.
Who knows. But yeah, so maybe something will emerge or
nothing and nothing, you know, with this president is sometimes
good news.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yep, that's true. Silence is golden, as they say. All right,
Scott Matthews, appreciate the time. Thank you very much, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
All right.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
That's doctor Scott Matthews from Memorial University talking about the
President Prime Minister meeting today. When we come back to
talk to our friends at the Association of New Canadians
about a mock election. They are holding back with that.
In a moment on the Tim.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Power Show.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Elections, Elections, Elections, they're everywhere, including at the Association of
New Canadians where they had a mock election today, and
we're joined by Leo etch Gary who's the director of
Language Services at ANC.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Tell us about the mock election.
Speaker 6 (26:28):
Actually we're having it tomorrow, Tim Oh, gotcha. So basically
tomorrow what we're going to have is that now the
teachers have been busy explaining the process to our students.
Now these are all non Canadian citizens, so this is
going to be a mock provincial election. We live in
Saint John's E's KDVIDI, So basically we're going to We've
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set up our cafeteria like a polling booth, polling area
and it looks a lot like you would find in
any polling area in a Newfland, Labrador. And so these
class will go down. They will have a voter information
card which we a will give to another person and
then they ask for their ID. They'll vote in the election.
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They'll go to behind, you know with the with the
ballot box and the voter screen and you know, we
try to make it as outlandic as possible for these newcomers,
to make them feel like they're actually part of you know,
part of our country.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Yeah, and how engaged are they? I have?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
I asked this with the assumption that they are pretty engaged,
because I find a lot of people I've always known
through the ants are very fascinated in the communities and
the countries they're coming to, particularly Newfoundland and Laborador. So
are these students excited to be part of this leo?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Oh? Absolutely, because many have never voted in an election
in their home country, so they come here and they're
really really engaged to do so, and they're really interested
in how we vote in you know, the different parties.
For example, we're in Saint John Di's Kididiti. So they
look at the look at the three people who are running,
look at their platforms, and then you know, we explain
here's here's the information. You decide how you want to
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vote based on, you know, what you think is important.
And they're really interested. They're really down it. Actually this year,
I guess it's a it's a big year. I'm voting
because we had the federal election, federal one. Now we're
now we're having the provincial plus the municil elections. So
they do tell me that this is a lot of elections.
This is not normal, but of course it's not almost
just this year. So but they know, they're engaged, and
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you know, I think it's important because you know, as Canadians,
we grow up, we learned about the election process and
we learned about it from our families and schools. But
as newcomers, they really don't get an opportunity to do this.
So I guess what we're doing is we're preparing them
to when they become Canadian citizens, to make an informed
decision about voting. And I think it's you know, it's
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really worthwhile.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Yeah, you've done it before. I've talked to some of
your colleagues before on this. I love when you do it.
And it's funny you say, so many elections. Yeah, we're
like the cost co of elections go out, you'll find
another election today, and so yeah, we are. We are
living the democratic dream or nightmare for some perhaps because
they keep hearing about elections. You said platforms. It's interesting, Leo,
(29:15):
because as you know, there's one platform out to aren't
but there's lots of policy information. Are you getting asked questions?
Are you and fellow staff and the Newfoundlanders and Laboradorians
who are working at ANC just getting asked more information
information about the province that our people are using to
help contextualize their choice.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
Absolutely, I mean they're concerned about the same things that
we will be concerned about, the cost of living and
cost of housing, housing, our food, you know, the cause
of buying clothing, going to a store. So they're asking
questions about Okay, even if their language is not up
to power, say they don't have enough language level to
understand what's going on, they do ask you know, so
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what does this person say about the coast of living
and how they're going to make the cost go down
and that kind of stuff. So the main issue is
just you know, is money, is the economics, and you know,
about jobs in the future, because that's what they our
newcomers want, is a decent job, a decent living wage
in a great country. Also hope like Canada, you.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Know, and you've picked a fun riding too. Geographically, I
mean that's the one where there's a contest potentially. I
mean it was helped by John Abbott. Now John Whalen,
new Liberal candidate trying to win it against well known
deputy former de she's still Deputy mayor Sheila O'Leary of
Saint John's And that one has gone back and forth
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NDP Liberal for occasionally years ago. It used to be
a PC seed. Have people looking at the history and
the personalities there too. What questions you're getting about.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
That they don't really talk much about personalities. They're more
at this point and about their platforms. And to be
quite honest with we're trying to stay away from personalities
to charge it, make it as as fair as possible.
And but no, they're engaged and they really want they
take this seriously, and you know, like last time we
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did it, they you know, people will bring in their
family members who are here and maybe they're not in
our school, but you know they're not Canadian assistants, but
they still want to take part in this mock election.
So it's really important they enjoy it. We've got a
great bunch of teachers who have taken this on.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
We have an.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
Organized as organizing committee of many who have just put
this together. And if you went to our cafeteria now
you would see, you know, the flags, Canadian flag and
for Land flag. We've got the ballot boxes, the voting screens,
and all the clients are becoming clients, but there are students.
They're taking part like they're going to be the scrutineers.
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They're going to be the welcomers. They're going to be
the checking the ideas, the folding the ballots. And actually
we also have developed look exactly like you would in
any election for Saint John D's kiddy VIDDI. So this
is part of a cross Canada actually is doing this
across Canada and we have one hundred I think other
schools in newfoland Labrador are actually doing this taking part.
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So we tellitated results, but we can't announce the results
until after the election's over.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
That's yeah, certainly, particularly without writing. I will tell you this, Leo,
and I'll let you go. If you guys can successfully
keep personalities out of Newfoundland and Labrador, apologics, take this
model and bring it to every one of the forty districts,
because that will be a first. I think it's awesome
what you're doing. Thank you for joining us in good
luck tomorrow with the mock election.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I really appreciate your interest in this, Tim, Thank you all.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Right, take care. That is Leo Etchuguerry. Leo's the director
of Languages Language Services at the Association of New Canadians. Now,
before I bring on our friend Charlie Byrne, let me
just give you a traffic update. There is a fender
bendor at Austin Street near Thorburn Road. Austin Street near
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Thorburn Road. I have three different spellings of Thorburn By
the way, Hey, Greg, learn how to spell. I'm gonna
be in so much trouble Charlie. How are you today?
Charlie Byrne, our friend from a global public affairs been long,
long involvement in Newfoundland and Labrador politics, mostly on the
liberal side. Charlie, wouldn't it be amazing if we could
have a Newfoundland and Labrador election where personalities were involved.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I don't know if it's possible, but.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
God bless the people at the ANC for just looking
at platforms and ideas. Though I have to say this,
my friend, I don't know what I I had Eddie
Joyce on last week and I'm still thinking about what
Eddie said. And Eddie said to me that this is
the strange as Newfoundland and Labrador election, he has said,
because you know, the normal kind of energy, the rallies,
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the dominant personalities aren't a prominent or existence in this
existence in this campaign. And that's not to take away
from the people who are there, it's not to take
away from the leader's styles.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
But does it feel different to you too?
Speaker 7 (34:11):
Yeah, Tim, Well, listen, thank thanks for having me on.
First of all, And I think there's a bit of
election fatigue this year.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Maybe.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
You know, we did have a very dramatic first half
of twenty twenty five with privateiter Trudeau stepping down, you know,
President Trump and all the fun things he was saying,
and sort of Mark Karney pulling off this this you know,
miracle political comeback, and then we've got the municipal election,
We've had, you know, Premier Fury stepping down and Premier
Hogan becoming the leader of the Liberal Party. So there's
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been a lot for people to take in. And I think,
you know, to your point this, I think would be
a time when some of the parties might have wanted
to capture a certain narrative, Like if you look at
the Conservatives, I think they would have wanted to capture
a change narrative. I think it's fair to say, but
I don't know necessarily that they've had the energy to
do that. And I look at some of the folks
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that have been out there with them, you know, that
have been there from the past. They're running some candidates
that run ten years ago. You've got folks like Danny Williams.
It doesn't exactly screen change. So that's that's one area
I think where maybe the narrative fell down a little bit,
I think for them. And then if you look at
the Liberals, they're probably okay with it being a little
(35:22):
bit lower energy. I mean, they're running a bit of
a safe campaign. So I don't know that the Tories
have been able to break through and get people to
pay attention. And I don't know necessarily that the Liberals
have wanted people to be super engaged to pay attention.
That usually favors the incumbents. And do you add on
the crazy year we have. I think that all adds
up to a bit of an apathetic electorate at this point.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
And no polls other than the narrative poll that was
focused on August though MQO. Now you no, you guys
didn't own or did your former company own MQO.
Speaker 7 (35:58):
I can't recall ye, yeah, five M five doesn't want
m du a research yet.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So they're they're apparently dropping a poll. Maybe you've seen it,
maybe I haven't, but all okay.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
But it's unders saying there's something in the field and
it'll be out soon, but I haven't seen it now.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, So the one thing we do know is coming tomorrow.
So you have been around politics for a while debates.
I've asked people who are experts in this, and I
would consider you as an expert practitioner of Newfoundland and
Lebrador politics. Tomorrow if people watch and listen because it's
on the VOC and radio service, how important could this
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be given the anecdotal talk that this election is close, Yeah, and.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I do think it's a close rate to be fair,
I think this is an opportunity now for people to
tune in like all debates are, and I think if
you and I are right, Neddie Joyce is right that
maybe people aren't exactly paying it to and it could
be pretty important. I think you know, if you're John Hogan,
he is the incumbent, and incumbents typically get bet up
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on on all sides, so you can expect that. I
think tomorrow night you'll see Tony Wakem take some shots
at him. You see Jim didn't take some shots at him,
So I think he's got to be able to keep
his cool there and and you know, it's a good
opportunity for him to challenge I think his main rival here,
Tony Wakem, on some things that he hasn't so far done.
And for Tony Wakem, I mean his final audition really
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for the job, and he needs to show people that
he's ready for the big chair, and he needs to
be ready to defend some of what he's committed to
in terms of spending. And if you look at the NDP,
although their main rival really if you look at the
seats there, actor are the Liberals, say Saint John D's
Katie Biddy. Their main competition there is a Liberal, But
the NDP are in favor of the Church Will falls
MoU as are the Liberals. So I would expect that
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Tony Wakem will kind of be the odd man out
on that one tomorrow. But yeah, I do think in
the case of this electure, where people probably have been
too tuned in, it could be somewhat important Tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Let's just look you openly, you called when it was done.
You're proponent of the MoU, you have been vocal about
it and it's importance. They're you know, clear lines drawn
between people who support it and don't support it, and
there's lots of history around that, lots of community leaders
from different eras who've come forward and said it's bad.
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You have, mister Wilson, others all to say, Charlie, I
am struggling. I'm not there every day like you are,
but I'm struggling to figure out if this is actually
connecting with people who are going to grocery stores and foods.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Up four percent and.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Gas is still expensive even though there have been some breaks,
and you know, their mortgages are a little bit better
because the prime rate's down, but they're they're worried.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Is the mo o you central in this election campaign?
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Do you think?
Speaker 7 (39:01):
Well? Tim, I think you know, as a society now,
we have a bit of an attention problem on everything, right,
Like we have all these crazy big things happening every
five minutes, and your attention turns to something else in
terms to absorb it. So I think the challenge for
the Liberal Party has been to connect the MoU to
all those things you just said, right, so outlining how
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you know, more revenue will connect to you know, more
teachers and more nurses and more doctors. If you look
at the Conservatives, I found it kind of interesting that
they are the ones sort of you know, saying that
they're going to spend all these money on different things,
almost as if they were going to sign the deal,
right because it's good an extra billion dollars, But they're
not really for the deal. So I don't know. I
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would say it is an issue for some people and
be interesting to see how it goes tomorrow night. I
think it is the opportunity for Premier Hogan to you know,
tie that up in a bow from a narrative perspective
and explain why this is important to the province. Explain
why it's would be you know, it should be something
that people face the decision on. But yeah, whether or
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not it's breaking through them and you hear different things.
If I could just make one point of families that
I don't think that gets made is the political reality
of this, right, Like if you look at Quebec, Quebec
has made this deal and there's this idea that there's
a better deal out there to be had. Next year,
there's a very strong likelihood that the party at Quebec
QUA is going to win the general election in Quebec.
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They are people will know them as sort of the
separatist party. They have said that this deal is bad
for Quebec, so they want a different deal. And if
anybody thinks that the PQ is going to give us
a better deal than what's there now, I mean, it's
just it's not realistic. So I think that's something that
we don't talk about often or not. And then you know,
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if you're not a observer of Quebec politics, you might
not know that. But that's something that people should keep
in mind because there probably isn't another deal to be
had for a very long time, and by that point
in time, the value of the ass that may be
quite different. So I think that's the point that could
be made a bit better fusing the political rida here.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, and Premier the Quebec Premier Lego is their current
Quebec as third and Quebec polling.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
All right, Charlie, gotta leave it there.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
I'm sure you, me and six other people will be
watching tomorrow night. Are listening on VOC I appreciate it.
Take care, buddy, take care, all right, I'm joking about that.
I hope you all try and tune in. Yat leaves
Canadians a big job. It'll be done before that as
well the jays that they're playing tomorrow night. But debates
are important. Elections are important. I'm sure you're sick to
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be saying that, but hey, we do have a lot
on the table. When we come back. We're going to
talk to Karen Storwick. She is the producer of a
fascinating film on Afghanistan and it's called Heroes Their Journey Home.
You're going to fall on Heroes Their Journey Home. We're
going to talk to Karen in a moment here on
(42:01):
the Tim Power Show.
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Speaker 2 (42:09):
There was a time when we talked a lot about
the war in Afghanistan, the conflicts there and the Canadian
blood that was spilled. Over one hundred and fifty Canadians
died in afghan Afghanistan Fallen Heroes Their Journey Home is
coming to the Gower Theater on the eighteenth of October.
It's a ninety minute documentary about the Canadian Armed Forces
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in Afghanistan. Please to be joined by Karen Storwick, the producer.
Karen is with Combined Forces Production Collaborative. Karen, I look
forward to seeing this and hearing hearing the stories that
you've collected.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Tell us about the film.
Speaker 8 (42:49):
Oh, thanks very much for having me this afternoon.
Speaker 6 (42:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:53):
We're a military history team from Calgary and we were
contracted by the fedral government to interview Afghanistan veterans across
the country in twenty sixteen, as we were going to
use that interview material.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
To create the audio.
Speaker 8 (43:13):
Visual content for a national touring exhibit called Mission Afghanistan,
which is now on the road. But while we were interviewing,
literally every story that we heard was jaw dropping and
there was so much left on the cutting room floor
when we were creating the exhibit content that we felt
we felt compelled we had to make a story that
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we could bring to Canadians that really helped drive home
what our soldiers, what are men and women in uniform
experienced in Afghanistan. There's so much to be proud of
and we are just so privileged to have been able
to share in so much of that pride, the tears.
We did incredible things over there.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
I'm based in Ottawa. I drive down the Highway of
Heroes often and remember seeing those processions of those wonderful
fallen heroes come home. I have friends who have served
in Afghanistan, and if there ever were a conflict where
we would have the ability to richly document it, it
would be Afghanistan. So people who go and see this
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at the Gower Theater on the eighteenth of October, what
are they going to see?
Speaker 8 (44:28):
Karen, Well, it's a great question because while this isn't
a comprehensive history of the war in Afghanistan, I mean,
we were there almost fifteen years and this just touches
the tip of the iceberg. What we really want is
we really want people to come and see this film
(44:48):
to get a sense of what it was like for
those who were there. They're going to see some examples
of some tough battles that we engaged in. Also going
to get a sense of the This this the grassroots
ceremonies that were developed by Canadians when we repreate, we
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repatriated our fallen and and and and It's it's really
interesting because the the Ramp ceremonies and the Highway of
Heroes UH form a big part of the kind of
the nexus of this story and and the film. And
it was this very heartfelt way that Canadians came together
(45:33):
to honor our fallen and no other country in the
world was doing it like this, And in fact, other
countries started to pay attention look at what the Canadians
are doing, and and and and and and started to
model some of those same ceremonies and rituals. And so
we really want people to come and sit in in
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this movie and take away a sense of pride, pride
and country pride in our men and women in uniform.
And we really want people to see themselves as supporters
of our military and supporters of veterans causes, just as
we were not so long ago. But it's so easy
for us to forget.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, unless we forget such an important motto, all proceeds
will go towards Soldier On, which is an important organization.
I just did a run for them here in Ottawa.
Matters of History, October eighteenth, twenty twenty five, Gower Theater,
seven to eight thirty, doors open at six.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Karen.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
I have to let you go, but I look forward
to seeing this and you continue this important work. It's
so vital to our understanding of our involvement in Afghanistan
and who we are today. Thank you for being with
us today.
Speaker 8 (46:44):
Thank you so much, Really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
All Right, you take care. You're going to want to
see that film. It sounds like it will really strike
an important chord amongst us. All I hope our program
has done that for you today. Thank you to Claudette,
Thank you to everybody who was part of it. Back
and Zach of course, back tomorrow with more of the
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