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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Tim Power Show on your VOCM. The
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of this station. Here's Tim.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the day after Wednesday, October fifteenth, and Newfoundland and
the Labrador has a new premier designate soon to be premier.
That of course is Tony Wakem. Congratulations to Tony. He
has often joined us on this program. He won last
night and what I think most people would still describe
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as a bit of a surprise going into the weekend.
I will tell you this, and I mentioned this yesterday.
There was only one seasoned political practitioner that I know
that had pretty much nailed this number in favor of
mister Wakem, though he was hedging his bets as well
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on a minority. Most people were guessing through the week
in slim liberal majority or a or a minority. I
think it did catch people by surprise, except for the
PCs who say they had planned this all along, that
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this could be their path to victory. So regardless of
who thought what going into the weekend, this is what
we have now. Apparently, Tony Wakem's brown pickup truck was
of great appeal. I teased him about that in the
times we spoke. But I think this and then we're
going to talk to Zach Parer in a minute about
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a bit of a wrap up and what comes from here.
But I think mister Wakem more effectively spoke to the
cost of living in healthcare concerns that people had in
communities that were already perhaps a little frustrated with the government.
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If you look at Saint John's, the city stayed pretty
much the same, strongly voted liberal. Mister Wakem, when we
mentioned this on this program, spoke to the divide that
people were feeling throughout his campaign. He stayed disciplined in
that message and showing us examples of that as he
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saw them. During this campaign, John Hogan didn't do poorly,
but I don't think he was able to get people
to buy into the importance of the MoU in the
manner in which the Liberals want it. If you dig
into the end trails of this a little bit, you
will see already that you know, a few seats, few votes,
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a few votes there. All of this could be a
bit different, but it isn't. It is what it is today,
and Newfoundland is poised to sw swore swear in excuse me,
it's sixteenth premiere in the form of mister Wakem. And
look credit to mister Wakem. He's had his political obituary
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written a couple of times. You will remember when he
first ran for the leadership, he lost to Chess Crosby,
but he stuck around. He put his hand up a
second time and ran against Eugene Manning. And there were
many who thought at that time, and I was buying
some of the spin that Tony Wakem wouldn't beat Eugene,
but he did all throughout the summer. Certainly, the expectation
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was the Liberals would hold on, as mister Wakem himself
said last night, but they didn't. In the end, mister
Wakem persevered his campaign team, led by Steve Outhouse. They
deserve a shout out. They developed a game plan and
they ran it. And also luck, I'm not trying to
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take anything away from them, but in politics often luck
plays a role and everything broke the PC's way. Perhaps
the most encouraging thing for all of us, regardless of
party affiliation, regardless of views held during the election campaign,
is what mister Wakeman, Premier Hogan, because he is still
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the Premier, said, you know, let's all put Newfoundland first.
I think credit to mister wakem mister Hogan and Jim
Dinn during the campaign. It wasn't the normal racous Newfoundland
affair and yeah, maybe that was boring, but that civility
for the purpose of Newfoundland and the Labrador is going
to be really important going forward. It doesn't mean you
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can't disagree. Disagreement's got to happen, but we are not
big enough. We're not strong enough on our own to
challenge all face all the challenges that we can. So
I hope the premier elect the opposition leaders will all
remain true to the word that it's about Newfoundland first,
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not PC, Liberal or NDP. All right, what I got
on the show before I go to Zach and we
dig into this further. You want to stay around after
Zac two. I know Zach's are a headliner, but we
have Joldini Bellavance from the press coming on. Joel Denis
joined us before he's going to give us the early
reactions that he's gotten from Quebec on this election, and
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we did see Premier Lego put out a message last
night along with the Prime Minister Pierre Polyeva many others
congratulating mister wakem so we'll see what the early chatter
is in Quebec. From Joldini at four point thirty, we're
going to talk to two winning candidates last time first
time elected to the House of Assembly in both their cases,
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Sheila O'Leary and Andrea Barber, get their take on how
it worked out in their favor last night. Then we're
going to talk to Amanda Bittner to get her take,
and then we're gonna have a little break from all
the politics and talk to Shila Williams about a show
she's doing in the province. But let's bring on Zach,
Zach listen. Breaking up is hard to do, buddy. I couldn't.
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I couldn't. Couldn't kick you to the cur I needed
you today, I needed you today. Last night you were there,
you like everybody else, waiting for every result to come
in because it took a while for the election to
be declared. What was it like being there and watching
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these polls because there was a moment. I remember when
the Liberals were at twenty two and the PCs were
at fifteen, and then if by the end of the
night it was it was flipped twenty one fifteen what
was it like watching all those results come in.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's pretty intense. I'm sure every newsroom in the province
had a pretty intense look. As you're looking at some
of these districts go by, you're kind of ruling them
out as you go, and you're not ruling them out
as you go. I mean, we obviously know that there's
a few Torrian Liberal strongholds that you know, they're pretty
easy to call them, pretty easy to declare. But I
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think one of the big things that we saw during
the course of this was how many that were tight
and they would start flip flopping back and forth.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
One of the ones that I just sticks out to me,
it was Fairyland. It started out at a time with
Eryl O'Brien getting some early gains and then loyol Adrisco
came and it flip flopped. And so that's what we
saw a lot through the night. And once it got
to the point it got to twenty two for the Liberals,
we you know, we don't want to say that we
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called the election, but we looked at it and we said, okay,
but there's still a lot to dissect here. There's a
lot of individual races that could be won. And I
think one of the biggest things that we noticed throughout
the course of the night is if there were seven
close districts, six of them went to the PCs, and
that's where we saw a little bit of that last
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flop instead of the flip. So that was one of
the more interesting pieces of the night, is just seeing
how tight a lot of these races were.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, and we shouldn't lose sight of that. I mean,
we're both too young, even me although in university at
the time. But a lot of comparisons made to the
nineteen eighty nine election that saw Clyde Wells win when
the PCs of the day were in government, Tom Wright
I was the premium. They got more popular vote, but
the Liberals were more efficient with their vote. Clearly, in
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particularly in most of rural Newfoundland and Labrador, the PCs
were very efficient with their vote. And they seemed to
and you and I talked about this over the last
four weeks. They seemed to speak to a desire of change,
at least in those communities and writings that maybe we
didn't see in Saint John's in the Avalon. What's your
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take on that?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, And that's one of those things. Like so for
full disclosure, I was surveying some people around the Avalon
Mall today and if I spoke to maybe five people
who told me that they were from outside the overpass,
a lot of them told me a lot of the
same things that would align with the PC campaign. And
you know, talking about rural healthcare, something that the PCs
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really focused in on. Someone told me twenty four hour
snow clearing. It's something that people inside the overpass really
take advantage of and you know take it for granted.
I guess right, we talk about some of those big
issues because you know, on the Outer Ring Road that's
plowed twenty four hours a day, but if you're going
down the beer In Peninsula, that's not something that's entirely plowed.
So that's where and that's kind of the vibe that
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I kind of got is you know, it really pertained
down to a district by district. If you look at
the map, you know, the whole left side of the
province with exception to corner Brook and Eddie Joyce's district
is pretty much blue. And that's a lot of what
we're saying because they're focusing on issues that pertain to
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each individual district. So when the candidate comes to the door,
they can say, oh, well, we're going to build you
a new hospital or you know, the Botwood Hospital twenty
four hours a day. That's really what we saw.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I tell you what was also interesting, and I
heard this from two different people in the advertising industry
that in the last week of the campaign, the Liberals sorry,
the PCs outspent the Liberals something like twenty thousand to
one thousand on social media advertising, which and I think
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we have an appreciation certainly if THEOCM, particularly on social media,
using community connect outside the overpass, it's important inside. But
I think there's something in there that the Conservatives saw
that they clearly used to their advantage. I cite the
example of someone will have on later Andrea Barber, who's
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built this huge audience on social media, and Tony Wakem
and Andrew Barber were in a lot of videos at
the end of the day. What's your take on the
role social media may have played? As we're just learning
some of this information.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And you know, this is a conversation that we've had
multiple times, and I know I've speaken to political scientists
and this as well, like think about the impact of TikTok.
We talked how many times have they tried to shut
that down in Canadian waters and in the US, and
you know, they've cited all these concerns and they've blocked
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it from some political phones. But that's very much a
strategy to get out to that eighteen to twenty four
demographic because you're you're getting them, I hate to say,
you're meeting them right where they are quite literally right
this is you know, instead of that traditional television or
radio or that or some of those more traditional television
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and radio platforms, you're going right to their cell phones.
You're going right to their social media and whether or
not you're just posting videos or you're just making advertisements.
The amount of people have come up to me and said, oh,
I saw this person on Facebook or TikTok or Instagram.
I really liked that what they had to say there.
That's been a huge strategy. And you know, whether or
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not they ramp it up during the election or not
is a different story. But this really has been in
each election where you're going to see that sort of
change in the way that these people get their message
out throughout the course of the campaign, and it really
did play a huge factor. And I can tell you
that I saw a lot of seats that were changed
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just off of that.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, and that brown pickup. I saw a lot of it.
And remember there was some controversy at the beginning of
the campaign about the Conservatives not spending money on a bus. Well,
apparently I guess some of that money that could have
gone to a bus went to social media advertising and
maybe it was more effective. All right, zech there's a
few recounts that have to happen the results. All results
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won't be officially validated. Is it to Friday? What do
you know about that? I know we have a story
up on that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, we're still waiting to hear from elections and now
exactly what needs to be done. We know that there's
a number of close districts that played out through the
course of the night. One of those that I think
about is that Lewisports willing Gate district between Derek Bennett
and Mark But I think the difference there is eighteen votes.
You can almost guarantee that that maybe a recount. But
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we haven't heard anything official on what any one of
those sites will be. We know that there was a
number of close seats as well, so that could be
a part of it. But yeah, as of right now,
we don't entirely know exactly how many will be recounted
or exactly when they will, but I'm sure we'll get
more details on that. Like you said on Friday.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well we do remember in the federal election, Anthony Jermaine
had won a seat with eleven votes and then lost
the seat by eleven votes. So when you're under thirty,
strange things can happen. Last one for you. I know
the Premier designate is doing a number of national media
interviews tonight, which is normal. Any word on the process
of transition or that we're still too early for.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That, still a little too early on that. It's important
to remember the House of Assembly was pretty well supposed
to be open soon. I think it was next week.
Obviously that's not gonna happen. What's going to happen next though,
is and wakem has kind of clarified this as well.
So he's gonna have to swear in all of those
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MHAs or they're all going to have to be sworn in.
He's going to have to pick a cabinet, and then
he's going to have to get that aligned and get
them up to speed before he can even think about
opening up the House of Assembly. We know that the
PCs in past have campaigned and rallied for having the
House of Assembly open for more days, So does he
try to rush it. He really has until the first
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week of December or the last week in November. That's
what they have on the calendar. I don't have that
in front of me, but it's somewhere around that mark.
So he really has the boogie if he wants to
get this going. Otherwise it's going to have to be
until after January.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, we know the word boogie makes me think of
Brian Madore and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
His heyday at the.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
At the club Max going on with the white outfit
teasing Brian time right and the guitar or Stanley's pop
I mean Brian, Brian, Brian's a legend. Hopefully the Jay's
wednesdnight does Zach. Great to have you, buddy, thank.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You, thanks Tim.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right when we come back, you want to stand
by for this joy bellevance from the La press are
or what is the early reaction coming out of Quebec
and the Government of Quebec back with Joldeny in a
moment here on the Tim Power Show. I love it
when a guy from New Brunswick who writes for Lapress,
one of the prominent papers in Quebec, is the most
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anticipated guest in Newfoundland and the Labrador Jody, we wait
with baita breath for you to tell us what Quebec thinks.
You only think I'm teasing. I'm not really. It's a
pleasure to have you, my friend, Joldany Bellevance beer chief Puer,
chief of La Press, Joldini. I don't think Premier let
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Go expected the results that came last night. With mister
Wakem soon to become Newfoundland's next premier. Many were anticipating
the Liberals would at least get a minority. What's the
early talk in Quebec about the Newfoundland and Labrador election
and how it relates to the MoU Well.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
People are getting more nervous in Quebec about the future
of that deal as I speak like now. The main
news today on the All day network Pardi, which is
the franchip villain of the CBC News Network, is the
talk of the future of the Churchill Paul deals between
Quebec and New Finland Labrador following the victory of the
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PC last night in that the election does quite exciting.
I watched the whole evening on TBC News Networked with
David Cochrane and the Crewe in Newfoundland reporting the results
and it was my gosh, whether election night. But the
future of that deal is now put into doubt in
the minds of a few people in Quebec. And so
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they are trying to put you know, the best, the
best face possible in front of what happened last night
and saying that this is the best deal that we
could negotiate. There's maybe some fine tuning to do. I
to Quebec is saying that they are still negotiaing some
details of that deal. That's the statement published by IDOL Quebec.
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But surely there is a nervousness now there It is
growing in Quebec about the future the deal that we expect.
You know now it will face some turbulence now. That nervousness,
I would say, jam is also felt being felt in Ottawa. Yes,
the government of Mark Carney, you know, was sort of
a secret cheerleader of that deal, was even ready to
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put some money on the tablet Health financed the construction
of the line to Quebec and EU canem labor or
because it was in the national interest and with help
improve the Brecon environmental record of the Canadian government in
terms of reducing green gas emissions. So there's a lot
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at stake in that deal. That is now you know,
some sometuts about the future of that deal.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, we talked about that when you were on last
and you talked about the Carney Hogan meeting where Carney,
as you said, wink wink, nudge, nudge, will help you
if you get this done. The clock's ticking in Quebec
though too, and David covered this last night on CBC.
I mean, mister Lego is going to have an election
sometime in the spring. If mister wakem doesn't even choose
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to blow up the m ou but drags his feet,
is this thing dead.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, that's a very good question. The election is expected
next October, so now, yeah, October, but you never know,
mister Logo could decide to go to the also if
there is a window for him to win another mande,
which is you know, in the chances of this happening
are pretty slim. Now, the Tacua which is leading in
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the polls, have been critical of the deal too, so
more doubts about that deal. If the Patscibua wins the election,
so will they be in the rush or more will
there be pressure on the Pascape government to keep the
current deal if it is maintained by the new premier
of Newfoundland Labrador, or will they say that let's let's
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wait until twenty forty one would see what happened. So
we thought that this was a chapter, a dark chapter
in the history of Quebec and Newfoundland Labrador that was
over when the deal was announced last December. Now I
think we see that the future of that deal is
in limbo following all the events that we describe, the
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election in the Finland Labrador, but in the possible defeat
of the local government in the next prevenial election expected
within the next twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You raise a fascinating point because you remember Brian Tobin
and Lucien Bouchard had aspects of a deal together. Then Grimes,
Roger Grimes came in and that fell apart. Danny Williams
had some early conversations with Jean Chreret, more of the
perfunctory level, but they that never took off, So you
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had this herculean effort. Whether you're like the MoU or
you don't. Between Lego and Andrew Fury. If this thing
falls off the table, is the reality likely going to
be everybody's just going to wait till twenty forty one.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, that's my sense because if that fails, if the
deal does not go through, that would be I think
the fatal blow or the last nail in the coffin
for the Fashodago government after the failure of WoT Nu Quebec,
the scandal of it with the Provincial Insurance State Insurance
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si IQ, and now this failing, which was part of
his legacy that he was so proud of reaching a
deal with New fermanamaories that falls through, that would be
the last I think mail in the coffin. And I'm
not sure that any government would attempt to negotiate a
new deal until the kurt one runs over in twenty
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forty one. So that's the risk that is, you know,
in front of all of us as observers but also
as people, I as a citizen of Quebec and you
as a proud as a Newfoundlander, that we're facing following
what's what happened last night. But you know, I cannot
blame mister the new Period for trying to negotiate a
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bit to day. I mean that that's his job to
defend Newfidland. Labrador's interesting, so that's obviously within his right
to do so. But you have to be careful that
you don't put into motions something that ends up cuddling
everything that could have been done as a deal.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Last one for you just on that. I mean, I
mean if Tony wakem when he gets officially sworn in,
calls Francois Lago and says, yeah, I want to do
a deal, but I'm going to need to see the
value go up in terms of what you're going this
killo up per hour. I'm going to need better escape clauses.
I'm going to need better escalator clauses. Is there any
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appetite in Quebec for that to happen or would that
be viewed as mister Lego just conceding and not holding
the line in Quebec.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, there may be some wigal ruin. But how far
mister will Is will lean to negotiate given that he's
seen as a weak premier right now. So you're right
in mentioning that maybe will be perceived as more weak
or if he does, you know, concede more and more
more concessions to you, Flan Labrador. So I think the
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best plan right now versus and for the new Periers,
do you get together as possible, try to work out
a deal that would be satisfying to the new Premium,
and so we can put it to quickly to a
referum the newfound Labrador and so hoping for the best afterwards.
Maybe Michielago, who was very good friend whins to create
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the former Premier. He invited him to the Sounds Dead
for a hockey game. Maybe that would be one of
the options that the should should try, or even invite
the new Premium to a basketball game, because I gathered
that he was a basketball coach for a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It was an outstanding basketball coach. Yes, yes, yes, well
known actor.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Would be a better option for Michilago.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well well, well it's certainly not the leaves, because nobody
ever wins anything with them, all right, Joldanie, good to
have you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You tell me if I may allow you quick yes comment.
I watched again last night's election, and I was very,
very impressed with the caliber of people who put up
their name on the ballot. And so the very gracious
speech speech by the going premiere that was, you know,
democracy at best of kudos. You need to Labrador people
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for putting a good show, a good election yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well see, that's why Newfoundland was waiting to hear from you.
And you kissed our butt on the way out. Joldiny
appreciate it. Thank you, take care, good bye. That is
take care. That's my friend, Jeldny Bellavance, the bureau chief
for the press here in Ottawa. All right, when we
come back, two newly elected candidates and Amanda Bittner got
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a great fifteen to twenty minutes coming up next, stand
by for that. Here on the Tim Power Show, Welcome back,
plot out. Who do I have here? Do I have
waiting for one of our candidates?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Here?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Andrea? There you go? All right, well, Jesus, this candidate
needs no introduction, particularly if you follow her great stuff
on social media. Andrea Barbara, the new MHA for Saint
Blands and Meadows, Andrea, congratulations, how does it feel?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Thank you so much. I'm I'm still getting it all
thinking I loved it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Well, I gotta tell you first, so I have to
tease you. Trevor Taylor is a buddy of mine. And
the fact you had to bring that guy out, my god,
I heard he did yeoman's work to help you out.
How was it to have Trevor out there and others
helping you during this election?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Amazing? He team all the way down from a calo
it to help me, and I had a couple more
former MHAs as well, Yeah yeah, and Wally Young as well,
and it was phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I don't I don't think.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I would have been able to do it as well
as I did without them because their guidance and their
expertise really really put me on the right path.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So look, you are well known on social media, do
a lot of cool stuff if it's interesting. You tell
wonderful stories about home. You're extremely creative. You've worked for
the federal government. But what on earth made you want
to get into politics? What kind of put you in
this place where now you're about to become the MHA
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for Saint barb blandsa metals.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Well. A couple of years ago, I was thinking about
running as MHA because I mean, the seat was open
and I looked into it and I didn't know where
to start. So I started doing a bit of research.
I was like, Okay, you have to apply, you have
to get nominated, you have to interview, you need money,
you need through so much and I just didn't know how.
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But it was something that I always wanted to do
because I really enjoy I enjoy like the government side,
like where I work with the federal government. When I
work with the federal government, I worked a lot in policy,
so in regulations and law enforcement, and I just found
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it really interesting and that's what drawn me to it.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, and that's awesome. Look new people and people with
your experience giving into politics. Trevor will tell you, I'm
a stunned towny, and I think I reinforced that over
the course of the election, because I think me and
others miss that in your community or your writing and
other writings. Rural Newfoundland, perhaps more so than the hardcore
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of Saint John's, there was an appetite for change, wasn't.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
There huge appetite for change Northern Peninsula. A lot of
people have felt forgotten in the last ten years, and
more and more as the years were going by.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
They when you come up to.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
The North, it's like going back in time right now.
The healthcare needs attention, the roads need attention. There's no
cell phone like cell phone service is horrible up here,
and then you banks closing, you have there's hardly any
doctors anymore in the community has gone virtual and it's
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just things are fading. Like you go through the small
communities on the streets. You're in a small community, it's normal.
There's fifteen houses that are empty. People are leaving and
there's not a lot of children.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
A lot of the.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
People up here are older, so the generations that gotten
older up here as well. So it's different up here.
But I see potential. I could see there's a lot
room for light, there's a lot room for growth up here,
and I plan on attracting more people to the North.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Are you going to keep up doing what you do
on social media because it's such a wonderful what you do.
It's so cool and telling the stories and the scenery
and the recipes, and you engage people in our province,
you show them where you're from. Are you going to
have the latitude and ability to continue to do that? Andrew?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
I hope so, because it's part of who I am,
and I love our province, and I really love showing
our culture, and the part of that is through food
and through recipes and the landscape and just showing who
we are on the island. I love that. I love
that about Newfoundland Labrador.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Well, you do it so well. And just before I
let you go, the social media has come up in
the last deck and one of the things the Conservatives
are getting credit for is the fact that they outspent
the Liberals in the last week of the campaign, like
twenty to one on social media advertising. Just for people
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who don't get it. How important is that where you're from,
because it seems to me, more Newfoundland stories, more Newfoundland
conversations are happening on social media.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Well, me, personally, I spent zero dollars on advertising and
social media. Mine is I am in an algorithm and
people follow me for me. Yeah, so no money was
wasted there for me for advertising. It just happens naturally. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, the person that's in the algorithm usually has a
big footprint. Andrea, wish you nothing but Locke. Congratulations again,
thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
You're welcome, Thanks for having me all.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Right, that is Andrea Barbara the new PC MHA for
Saint Barbe b Lands the Metals. Now we're going to
go to another new MHA, so she's not new to politics,
but as vibrant and energetic as ever. Sheila Larry, the
new MJA for Saint John's East Kitty Vitty Sheila, third
time you pulled it off? How does it feel?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Oh my gosh, Well, you know today I'm still running
on fume, so she can imagine. This has been a
very hard fought and long campaign.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But just feeling ecstatic. You know what this was.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
I've run seven campaigns now, including my municipal campaigns, and
I have to tell you.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
This was one of the best organized and.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
The most positive campaigns that I've ever ever been a
part of. It really was a testimony to people coming together,
community coming together. The NDP itself had like a phenomenal
organizing team and also great candidates, and it's just so
excited and seeing the increase in voting for the NDP
(31:34):
for the first time. You know, obviously we would have
liked to have seen more numbers other than myself, and
I'm very grateful for the support that.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I received in this district.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
But you know what, I think it's a good sign
that people really believe that the NDP is a viable option.
And I think that many of these candidates, these strong candidates,
so many incredible women too. I have to have to mention,
I think that this is not the last that we're
going to see in them. So, you know, I'm very,
very excited about what the outcome has been for the NDP.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
As it stands right now, it's a majority government for
mister wakem Jim and Jordan in the last session. We're able,
through different configurations to have significant influence. Neither you nor
Jim have trouble and I mean this in a respectful
way getting your points across and you punch above your weight.
(32:29):
What role do you think you and Jim need to
play in this next sitting of the House of Assembly
given the MoU was not gone yet, there's still huge
issues around healthcare, safety, all the things this election was about.
What role do you want to play, Sheila with Jim
and making sure all perspectives are heard and addressed. Well, look, we.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
All know what the issues are.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
We know it's healthcare affordability for me personally on the door,
A lot of what I heard in Saint John's skat
Vidy was about transparency and accountability. Of course people were Obviously,
democracy is what it is and the people have spoken,
so I mean I was quite surprised myself to see
the outcomes as much of a.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Switch as it was. But the reality is that I
don't care who the.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
Powers are that be. We all need to ensure check
some balances. We need to hold the governing bodies accountable
and there needs to be transparency. So that is going
to be something that will continue no matter who's at
the helm. And I certainly want to give a shout out,
you know, certainly to our leader Jim Din for his success,
(33:38):
and of course to the Premier elect as well to
mister Tony Wakem. I'm you know what, I've learned a
lot about collaboration through my experience with municipalities, and you
know what, aside from accountability and transparency, I think that
really working together for.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
The people of the province. I mean it's time to
get over this stuff, right, I think it's really important.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, there aren't enough of us to be constantly at
wits ends. You can disagree, you got and you gotta
have criticism, but you got to find a way to
work together. Leave it there, Sheila, congratulations again, great to
talk to you.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
I really appreciate the interest and thanks to all the
supporters and the voters out there.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Thanks. It's great for democracy, all right.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
All right bye. That is Sheila O'Leary, the newly elected
MHA for Saint John's East Kitty Vitty now not elected
to anything, but her brain is worth its weight in
electoral gold. And that is our friend, doctor Amanda Bittner. Amanda,
(34:42):
your take on where we've ended up, because it's a
bit of a surprise to me. But what do you think?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Are you surprised though, because it seems like it fits
with the data on one level, right, Like the poll
that came out like last week, we're pretty clear that
things were quite close. And yes, none of them called
for a conservative majority, but it's a pretty slim majority.
Number one and number two they did indicate that things
were really close and the popular vote was really close.
(35:11):
So for me, it's like a good story about polling.
They got it right.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
There were three other polls that were a little you're
talking about the MQO poll, which was the closest. There
were three others that were there were there were bigger gaps,
and there'll be lots of discussion about all of that.
It seems to me, though, and you and I talked
about this before, there was a gap in issue in
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the issue set. Having just talked to Andrea Barber, having
talked to some other people in ruralan flight outside the city,
there was really an appetite for change, whereas in the
city it was less. So your take on that, no.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
I think that's right. I think that so it's such
a it's hard to unpack all the things, right, and
we don't have all the information that we need either
to do a good job of that. But what I
would say just from observing the campaign is the Liberal
Party really tried to force us as voters to think
only about the MoU, and voters didn't only care about
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the MoU. And so what we got here is a
situation where there's a disconnect between the liberal parties messaging
and voters demands. Right, So all the folks that have
been knocking on doors were saying that you know, actually
like healthcare, cost of living, safety, poverty, these things were
all big, big issues. And we know that based on
(36:34):
what life has been like for the past few years.
We've been saying this all along, and so there's the disconnect.
Was a party trying to tell us all what the
issue is versus listening to what people are saying the
issue is, and so I think had they been listening
a bit more, the outcome might have been different. Because
the voting worked quite close, right, and from the start
I've said this is anyone's to win and anyone's to lose,
(36:56):
and I think that that kind of played out that way.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It certainly did. And again, not trying to take anything
away from mister Wakem in his campaign, because you have
to give them credit. I mean, just from the strategic
aspects aspects of this, I think they recognized early on
they were probably in play in twenty one twenty two seats,
and they won twenty one seats. They focused on it,
(37:20):
they micro targeted their lessons to take away from the campaign.
You've just talked about some of them know where your
audience is. But what else do you see coming out
of this campaign that is instructive as it relates to
where we may be heading next.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Yeah, that's a great question. I think, you know, again,
anyone's guess. At the same time, there are some pretty
big challenges that we've been facing for a number of
years now that they feel like they've come into a
bit of a head right, And this year has been
a really heightened year and thinking about politics, talking about politics,
threats from the US sovereignties, that issue, terrorist things are hard,
(38:03):
and then you add in the wildfires and the constant
struggle that a lot of people are experiencing right now,
and people.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Are worn down.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
So my impression is that folks now want government to
just lead, show us the solutions, do your job, tell
us what you're up to, and we're happy. We don't
want to be involved in thinking about politics all the time,
and we don't want to scrutinize everything all the time either, right,
And so I think, you know, Wickham was pretty clear
about saying we're going to have an independent review now,
like I don't think that that your Churchill follows them
(38:31):
while he was dead. I think we're just going to
maybe now proceed with more investigation, more thinking, more debate,
more deliberation. But that issue is so confusing and remains consusing,
and that's not helpful either, right. So my hope is
that you know, we move forward with that, because if
it's a good deal, it can really fix a lot
of things in this province. But the devil's in the details.
So let's hear what the details are, and then let's
(38:53):
start thinking about what else we need to do to
get the ball rolling on making life better for people.
And that includes yes, bet our healthcare, That includes yes,
thinking about the cost of living, that dealing with you know,
the high levels at the cost of living, high levels
of homelessness, food and security. These are really big issues
that face all of us across the province. And you know,
(39:14):
the Liberal government wasn't really talking about those things as
much as it could have been, and it doesn't seem
to have been thinking about them in the way that
the other parties were. So maybe that that those issues
have resonated more with voters in the province who want
some movement on those things.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, last question here, and it reflects what you've just
said now. I mean you've talked about a more you know,
collaborative approach. Tony wakem jim Din and John Hogan all
talked about that last night. Given our political history and
where we are now, are we at that maturation point
where we can yes, criticize, analyze, study, do whatever is
(39:54):
necessary but fine common purpose and shed some of the
partisanship for some of the bigger decisions this province needs
to make.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I think certainly that's possible. I mean, I was heartened
by some of the speeches that I heard last night.
You know, John Hogan talked a lot about you know,
what's good for the future is good for all of us,
and you know, he really did a good job of
wishing luck to the other leaders and you know, conceding
and talking about the importance of democracy in the future
and things like that. So I think that there's certainly
(40:25):
a lot of space for collaboration. And we have some
new people in the legislature who have new ideas and
fresh perspectives, and that's really important. So hopefully, you know that,
hopefully we're able to actually hear from those folks. I
always say it, the most important thing about government is
actually the opposition, and so you know, this is an
opportunity for the Liberal Party to you know, do that
(40:48):
job and take it seriously and help the province you know,
do better, and help the government do better. And so
this is an opportunity really for the future of the province,
which is always true. Whenever you have a transition that's sistic,
you know it can go good and it can go bad,
and it's up to everybody to do their best to
make it go good. So we have a lot of expectations,
(41:10):
I guess at this point.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, we do, and that will be the new premier's challenge.
We'll let him enjoy for a couple of days. And
I also want to echo Jodani Bellevans did. Look, there
was grace from both John Hogan and Jim did last night.
We haven't always seen that in Newfoundland of laborator politics,
so for sure, credit to both of them. All Right, Amanda,
thank you for the time, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Thanks very much, no flat site.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
All right. That is doctor Amanda bit Nerve from Memorial University.
When we come back, you get a break from the politics.
We're going to talk about Good as Gold, Sila Williams
show back with Shila in a moment here on the
Tim Powers Show, The Tim Power Show, Joining the Conversation
weekday afternoons at four pm on your VOCM. Well this
(41:56):
sounds good. I'm just reading the ticket information for Good
as Goal. Get ready to laugh, sing and be entertained,
joined Sheila Williams for an unforgettable night comedy, singing and
draw dropping acts. Sheila's back, shinier than ever and good
as goal. The show packed with laughs, bigger voices, and
more country music than a honky talk jukebox. Geez, Sheila,
(42:18):
that's pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I got a bottle of whiskey in front of me
right now that I was given as a drink, I'd
crack it open all right now, tell me on this
day after the election, when that's all that. We've been
talking about what your show, what your show is going
to do for people, because I think they need a break.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
I'm going to tell you something, Tim, I really think
what it's going to do for people is give them lift.
And you're right, we'll give them a break and a
much needed distraction because the truth is, we get mired
down in our everyday lives, don't.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
We We do.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
Indeed, and so coming to the show, we'll give you
a complete head break. And you know what, the only
time I get a break like that is when I'm
playing a game of pickaball. You know, you can't think
of anything else other than whether you're going to get
it over the nest. So the concert is just going
to be a fantastic show and it'll be country, some rock,
(43:18):
some old times, some new. You know. There's all fresh
new comedy that I've written and Debiell Smith and I
are co producing it, and so there are special guests
as well, Craig Sharp, Dana Parsons and Darren Martin and
a full twelve piece band.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
What do people want to laugh about, now, Sheila? Sometimes
we'd like laughing at ourselves. Sometimes we like the skit comedy.
What are you going to get people to laugh about?
Speaker 7 (43:50):
I appreciate that question so much, you know, because the
truth of the matter is I've often been asked to
roast people or to make a fool of someone. I
will never do that, Tim, And I'll tell you for why,
Because I don't like people to feel bad. If I
make a joke about anyone, it's usually a bit of
(44:13):
self deprecating humor, and it's usually about only ordinary things.
I grew up on a farm here in the Goulds,
and all of my family are talented. All of my
family are for funny, and Mom, I think was the
funniest of all, and she was very quick witted but
it was only ordinary comedy, you know, for an example,
(44:35):
like the far off bull wears long horns. In other words,
you can say whatever you like because you're on Ontario.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
And we have to believe you.
Speaker 7 (44:44):
You can say how long your horns are. We can't
verify that. New Finlanders know what that means, right, Or yeah, no,
I saw him from a distance, the way Patty saw
the moon, you know, and so little sort of things
like this where people are listening and thinking, oh my god,
oh god, that was funny. Okay, but it's past now,
so you got to kind of keep up, and he
(45:06):
you don't keep with it. It's comedy.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
You're almost reminding me of the big blackout in eleven
or twelve or whenever it was. And we got some
fascinating calls from Signal Hill about objects people were seeing
far away. So Sheila, anybody, it's Thursday, sorry, Friday and
Saturday at Holy Heart. Haven't been there in a while.
Just tell us that information and where people can get tickets.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
Thank you. It is. It's Friday, Saturday night. So it's
the seventeenth and eighteenth at Holy Heart Theater here in
Saint John's and it's start at showtime is seven thirty,
so you're home in the bunk at ten thirty.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Well that's assuming you don't go on the whiskey and
go down to George Street. You know, I'd assumes you
behave yourself.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
That assumes yeah, that's right. But yeah, you you can
get the tickets from Leslie at the box office by
calling five seven nine four four two four, or you
can get them online for those people who can go
on the line. You know, some of my audience, Tim,
I'll just say it. I'll just tell you the truth.
Some of my audience are older because the older people
(46:11):
like me because I'm old myself, you see, and I
grew up when they did, and so most of them
are color in their hair. So they don't know how
to go on the line. So give Leslie calls, she'll
get the tickets.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Well, I call one up every morning on the line.
She's eighty three. She usually tells me to f off,
so I know she's alive. If I get told that
in the morning, there Sheila's so I hear you. Maybe
I'll send her up. You can deal with her at
the show on Friday or Saturday night. Anyway, appreciate having
you great have a great show, or have two great shows.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 7 (46:46):
Thank you. I really do appreciate it. And listen. If
you're in town, you give me a jingle and you'll
come to the show as well. And get these people
on the line here who are listening to you to
come on out with you.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I will do that, all right. That is Sheila Williams
Good as Gold this Friday and Saturday. That is our
show today. Thank you to Claude, thank you to Greg,
thank you to everyone. Back tomorrow with more of the
Tempower Show.
This is the Tim Power Show on your VOCM. The
views and opinions of this program, or not necessarily those
of this station. Here's Tim.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
It's the day after Wednesday, October fifteenth, and Newfoundland and
the Labrador has a new premier designate soon to be premier.
That of course is Tony Wakem. Congratulations to Tony. He
has often joined us on this program. He won last
night and what I think most people would still describe
(00:33):
as a bit of a surprise going into the weekend.
I will tell you this, and I mentioned this yesterday.
There was only one seasoned political practitioner that I know
that had pretty much nailed this number in favor of
mister Wakem, though he was hedging his bets as well
(00:53):
on a minority. Most people were guessing through the week
in slim liberal majority or a or a minority. I
think it did catch people by surprise, except for the
PCs who say they had planned this all along, that
(01:14):
this could be their path to victory. So regardless of
who thought what going into the weekend, this is what
we have now. Apparently, Tony Wakem's brown pickup truck was
of great appeal. I teased him about that in the
times we spoke. But I think this and then we're
going to talk to Zach Parer in a minute about
(01:35):
a bit of a wrap up and what comes from here.
But I think mister Wakem more effectively spoke to the
cost of living in healthcare concerns that people had in
communities that were already perhaps a little frustrated with the government.
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If you look at Saint John's, the city stayed pretty
much the same, strongly voted liberal. Mister Wakem, when we
mentioned this on this program, spoke to the divide that
people were feeling throughout his campaign. He stayed disciplined in
that message and showing us examples of that as he
(02:17):
saw them. During this campaign, John Hogan didn't do poorly,
but I don't think he was able to get people
to buy into the importance of the MoU in the
manner in which the Liberals want it. If you dig
into the end trails of this a little bit, you
will see already that you know, a few seats, few votes,
(02:38):
a few votes there. All of this could be a
bit different, but it isn't. It is what it is today,
and Newfoundland is poised to sw swore swear in excuse me,
it's sixteenth premiere in the form of mister Wakem. And
look credit to mister Wakem. He's had his political obituary
(03:01):
written a couple of times. You will remember when he
first ran for the leadership, he lost to Chess Crosby,
but he stuck around. He put his hand up a
second time and ran against Eugene Manning. And there were
many who thought at that time, and I was buying
some of the spin that Tony Wakem wouldn't beat Eugene,
but he did all throughout the summer. Certainly, the expectation
(03:24):
was the Liberals would hold on, as mister Wakem himself
said last night, but they didn't. In the end, mister
Wakem persevered his campaign team, led by Steve Outhouse. They
deserve a shout out. They developed a game plan and
they ran it. And also luck, I'm not trying to
(03:45):
take anything away from them, but in politics often luck
plays a role and everything broke the PC's way. Perhaps
the most encouraging thing for all of us, regardless of
party affiliation, regardless of views held during the election campaign,
is what mister Wakeman, Premier Hogan, because he is still
(04:06):
the Premier, said, you know, let's all put Newfoundland first.
I think credit to mister wakem mister Hogan and Jim
Dinn during the campaign. It wasn't the normal racous Newfoundland
affair and yeah, maybe that was boring, but that civility
for the purpose of Newfoundland and the Labrador is going
to be really important going forward. It doesn't mean you
(04:28):
can't disagree. Disagreement's got to happen, but we are not
big enough. We're not strong enough on our own to
challenge all face all the challenges that we can. So
I hope the premier elect the opposition leaders will all
remain true to the word that it's about Newfoundland first,
(04:50):
not PC, Liberal or NDP. All right, what I got
on the show before I go to Zach and we
dig into this further. You want to stay around after
Zac two. I know Zach's are a headliner, but we
have Joldini Bellavance from the press coming on. Joel Denis
joined us before he's going to give us the early
reactions that he's gotten from Quebec on this election, and
(05:15):
we did see Premier Lego put out a message last
night along with the Prime Minister Pierre Polyeva many others
congratulating mister wakem so we'll see what the early chatter
is in Quebec. From Joldini at four point thirty, we're
going to talk to two winning candidates last time first
time elected to the House of Assembly in both their cases,
(05:36):
Sheila O'Leary and Andrea Barber, get their take on how
it worked out in their favor last night. Then we're
going to talk to Amanda Bittner to get her take,
and then we're gonna have a little break from all
the politics and talk to Shila Williams about a show
she's doing in the province. But let's bring on Zach,
Zach listen. Breaking up is hard to do, buddy. I couldn't.
(05:57):
I couldn't. Couldn't kick you to the cur I needed
you today, I needed you today. Last night you were there,
you like everybody else, waiting for every result to come
in because it took a while for the election to
be declared. What was it like being there and watching
(06:18):
these polls because there was a moment. I remember when
the Liberals were at twenty two and the PCs were
at fifteen, and then if by the end of the
night it was it was flipped twenty one fifteen what
was it like watching all those results come in.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
It's pretty intense. I'm sure every newsroom in the province
had a pretty intense look. As you're looking at some
of these districts go by, you're kind of ruling them
out as you go, and you're not ruling them out
as you go. I mean, we obviously know that there's
a few Torrian Liberal strongholds that you know, they're pretty
easy to call them, pretty easy to declare. But I
(06:54):
think one of the big things that we saw during
the course of this was how many that were tight
and they would start flip flopping back and forth.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
One of the ones that I just sticks out to me,
it was Fairyland. It started out at a time with
Eryl O'Brien getting some early gains and then loyol Adrisco
came and it flip flopped. And so that's what we
saw a lot through the night. And once it got
to the point it got to twenty two for the Liberals,
we you know, we don't want to say that we
(07:23):
called the election, but we looked at it and we said, okay,
but there's still a lot to dissect here. There's a
lot of individual races that could be won. And I
think one of the biggest things that we noticed throughout
the course of the night is if there were seven
close districts, six of them went to the PCs, and
that's where we saw a little bit of that last
(07:43):
flop instead of the flip. So that was one of
the more interesting pieces of the night, is just seeing
how tight a lot of these races were.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Yeah, and we shouldn't lose sight of that. I mean,
we're both too young, even me although in university at
the time. But a lot of comparisons made to the
nineteen eighty nine election that saw Clyde Wells win when
the PCs of the day were in government, Tom Wright
I was the premium. They got more popular vote, but
the Liberals were more efficient with their vote. Clearly, in
(08:16):
particularly in most of rural Newfoundland and Labrador, the PCs
were very efficient with their vote. And they seemed to
and you and I talked about this over the last
four weeks. They seemed to speak to a desire of change,
at least in those communities and writings that maybe we
didn't see in Saint John's in the Avalon. What's your
(08:36):
take on that?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yeah, And that's one of those things. Like so for
full disclosure, I was surveying some people around the Avalon
Mall today and if I spoke to maybe five people
who told me that they were from outside the overpass,
a lot of them told me a lot of the
same things that would align with the PC campaign. And
you know, talking about rural healthcare, something that the PCs
(09:00):
really focused in on. Someone told me twenty four hour
snow clearing. It's something that people inside the overpass really
take advantage of and you know take it for granted.
I guess right, we talk about some of those big
issues because you know, on the Outer Ring Road that's
plowed twenty four hours a day, but if you're going
down the beer In Peninsula, that's not something that's entirely plowed.
So that's where and that's kind of the vibe that
(09:23):
I kind of got is you know, it really pertained
down to a district by district. If you look at
the map, you know, the whole left side of the
province with exception to corner Brook and Eddie Joyce's district
is pretty much blue. And that's a lot of what
we're saying because they're focusing on issues that pertain to
(09:43):
each individual district. So when the candidate comes to the door,
they can say, oh, well, we're going to build you
a new hospital or you know, the Botwood Hospital twenty
four hours a day. That's really what we saw.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I tell you what was also interesting, and I
heard this from two different people in the advertising industry
that in the last week of the campaign, the Liberals sorry,
the PCs outspent the Liberals something like twenty thousand to
one thousand on social media advertising, which and I think
(10:18):
we have an appreciation certainly if THEOCM, particularly on social media,
using community connect outside the overpass, it's important inside. But
I think there's something in there that the Conservatives saw
that they clearly used to their advantage. I cite the
example of someone will have on later Andrea Barber, who's
(10:39):
built this huge audience on social media, and Tony Wakem
and Andrew Barber were in a lot of videos at
the end of the day. What's your take on the
role social media may have played? As we're just learning
some of this information.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And you know, this is a conversation that we've had
multiple times, and I know I've speaken to political scientists
and this as well, like think about the impact of TikTok.
We talked how many times have they tried to shut
that down in Canadian waters and in the US, and
you know, they've cited all these concerns and they've blocked
(11:13):
it from some political phones. But that's very much a
strategy to get out to that eighteen to twenty four
demographic because you're you're getting them, I hate to say,
you're meeting them right where they are quite literally right
this is you know, instead of that traditional television or
radio or that or some of those more traditional television
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and radio platforms, you're going right to their cell phones.
You're going right to their social media and whether or
not you're just posting videos or you're just making advertisements.
The amount of people have come up to me and said, oh,
I saw this person on Facebook or TikTok or Instagram.
I really liked that what they had to say there.
That's been a huge strategy. And you know, whether or
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not they ramp it up during the election or not
is a different story. But this really has been in
each election where you're going to see that sort of
change in the way that these people get their message
out throughout the course of the campaign, and it really
did play a huge factor. And I can tell you
that I saw a lot of seats that were changed
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just off of that.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, and that brown pickup. I saw a lot of it.
And remember there was some controversy at the beginning of
the campaign about the Conservatives not spending money on a bus. Well,
apparently I guess some of that money that could have
gone to a bus went to social media advertising and
maybe it was more effective. All right, zech there's a
few recounts that have to happen the results. All results
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won't be officially validated. Is it to Friday? What do
you know about that? I know we have a story
up on that.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Yeah, we're still waiting to hear from elections and now
exactly what needs to be done. We know that there's
a number of close districts that played out through the
course of the night. One of those that I think
about is that Lewisports willing Gate district between Derek Bennett
and Mark But I think the difference there is eighteen votes.
You can almost guarantee that that maybe a recount. But
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we haven't heard anything official on what any one of
those sites will be. We know that there was a
number of close seats as well, so that could be
a part of it. But yeah, as of right now,
we don't entirely know exactly how many will be recounted
or exactly when they will, but I'm sure we'll get
more details on that. Like you said on Friday.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well we do remember in the federal election, Anthony Jermaine
had won a seat with eleven votes and then lost
the seat by eleven votes. So when you're under thirty,
strange things can happen. Last one for you. I know
the Premier designate is doing a number of national media
interviews tonight, which is normal. Any word on the process
of transition or that we're still too early for.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
That, still a little too early on that. It's important
to remember the House of Assembly was pretty well supposed
to be open soon. I think it was next week.
Obviously that's not gonna happen. What's going to happen next though,
is and wakem has kind of clarified this as well.
So he's gonna have to swear in all of those
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MHAs or they're all going to have to be sworn in.
He's going to have to pick a cabinet, and then
he's going to have to get that aligned and get
them up to speed before he can even think about
opening up the House of Assembly. We know that the
PCs in past have campaigned and rallied for having the
House of Assembly open for more days, So does he
try to rush it. He really has until the first
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week of December or the last week in November. That's
what they have on the calendar. I don't have that
in front of me, but it's somewhere around that mark.
So he really has the boogie if he wants to
get this going. Otherwise it's going to have to be
until after January.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well, we know the word boogie makes me think of
Brian Madore and.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
His heyday at the.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
At the club Max going on with the white outfit
teasing Brian time right and the guitar or Stanley's pop
I mean Brian, Brian, Brian's a legend. Hopefully the Jay's
wednesdnight does Zach. Great to have you, buddy, thank.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You, thanks Tim.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
All right when we come back, you want to stand
by for this joy bellevance from the La press are
or what is the early reaction coming out of Quebec
and the Government of Quebec back with Joldeny in a
moment here on the Tim Power Show. I love it
when a guy from New Brunswick who writes for Lapress,
one of the prominent papers in Quebec, is the most
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anticipated guest in Newfoundland and the Labrador Jody, we wait
with baita breath for you to tell us what Quebec thinks.
You only think I'm teasing. I'm not really. It's a
pleasure to have you, my friend, Joldany Bellevance beer chief Puer,
chief of La Press, Joldini. I don't think Premier let
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Go expected the results that came last night. With mister
Wakem soon to become Newfoundland's next premier. Many were anticipating
the Liberals would at least get a minority. What's the
early talk in Quebec about the Newfoundland and Labrador election
and how it relates to the MoU Well.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
People are getting more nervous in Quebec about the future
of that deal as I speak like now. The main
news today on the All day network Pardi, which is
the franchip villain of the CBC News Network, is the
talk of the future of the Churchill Paul deals between
Quebec and New Finland Labrador following the victory of the
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PC last night in that the election does quite exciting.
I watched the whole evening on TBC News Networked with
David Cochrane and the Crewe in Newfoundland reporting the results
and it was my gosh, whether election night. But the
future of that deal is now put into doubt in
the minds of a few people in Quebec. And so
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they are trying to put you know, the best, the
best face possible in front of what happened last night
and saying that this is the best deal that we
could negotiate. There's maybe some fine tuning to do. I
to Quebec is saying that they are still negotiaing some
details of that deal. That's the statement published by IDOL Quebec.
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But surely there is a nervousness now there It is
growing in Quebec about the future the deal that we expect.
You know now it will face some turbulence now. That nervousness,
I would say, jam is also felt being felt in Ottawa. Yes,
the government of Mark Carney, you know, was sort of
a secret cheerleader of that deal, was even ready to
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put some money on the tablet Health financed the construction
of the line to Quebec and EU canem labor or
because it was in the national interest and with help
improve the Brecon environmental record of the Canadian government in
terms of reducing green gas emissions. So there's a lot
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at stake in that deal. That is now you know,
some sometuts about the future of that deal.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, we talked about that when you were on last
and you talked about the Carney Hogan meeting where Carney,
as you said, wink wink, nudge, nudge, will help you
if you get this done. The clock's ticking in Quebec
though too, and David covered this last night on CBC.
I mean, mister Lego is going to have an election
sometime in the spring. If mister wakem doesn't even choose
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to blow up the m ou but drags his feet,
is this thing dead.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Well, that's a very good question. The election is expected
next October, so now, yeah, October, but you never know,
mister Logo could decide to go to the also if
there is a window for him to win another mande,
which is you know, in the chances of this happening
are pretty slim. Now, the Tacua which is leading in
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the polls, have been critical of the deal too, so
more doubts about that deal. If the Patscibua wins the election,
so will they be in the rush or more will
there be pressure on the Pascape government to keep the
current deal if it is maintained by the new premier
of Newfoundland Labrador, or will they say that let's let's
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wait until twenty forty one would see what happened. So
we thought that this was a chapter, a dark chapter
in the history of Quebec and Newfoundland Labrador that was
over when the deal was announced last December. Now I
think we see that the future of that deal is
in limbo following all the events that we describe, the
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election in the Finland Labrador, but in the possible defeat
of the local government in the next prevenial election expected
within the next twelve.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You raise a fascinating point because you remember Brian Tobin
and Lucien Bouchard had aspects of a deal together. Then Grimes,
Roger Grimes came in and that fell apart. Danny Williams
had some early conversations with Jean Chreret, more of the
perfunctory level, but they that never took off, So you
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had this herculean effort. Whether you're like the MoU or
you don't. Between Lego and Andrew Fury. If this thing
falls off the table, is the reality likely going to
be everybody's just going to wait till twenty forty one.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Yeah, that's my sense because if that fails, if the
deal does not go through, that would be I think
the fatal blow or the last nail in the coffin
for the Fashodago government after the failure of WoT Nu Quebec,
the scandal of it with the Provincial Insurance State Insurance
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si IQ, and now this failing, which was part of
his legacy that he was so proud of reaching a
deal with New fermanamaories that falls through, that would be
the last I think mail in the coffin. And I'm
not sure that any government would attempt to negotiate a
new deal until the kurt one runs over in twenty
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forty one. So that's the risk that is, you know,
in front of all of us as observers but also
as people, I as a citizen of Quebec and you
as a proud as a Newfoundlander, that we're facing following
what's what happened last night. But you know, I cannot
blame mister the new Period for trying to negotiate a
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bit to day. I mean that that's his job to
defend Newfidland. Labrador's interesting, so that's obviously within his right
to do so. But you have to be careful that
you don't put into motions something that ends up cuddling
everything that could have been done as a deal.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Last one for you just on that. I mean, I
mean if Tony wakem when he gets officially sworn in,
calls Francois Lago and says, yeah, I want to do
a deal, but I'm going to need to see the
value go up in terms of what you're going this
killo up per hour. I'm going to need better escape clauses.
I'm going to need better escalator clauses. Is there any
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appetite in Quebec for that to happen or would that
be viewed as mister Lego just conceding and not holding
the line in Quebec.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, there may be some wigal ruin. But how far
mister will Is will lean to negotiate given that he's
seen as a weak premier right now. So you're right
in mentioning that maybe will be perceived as more weak
or if he does, you know, concede more and more
more concessions to you, Flan Labrador. So I think the
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best plan right now versus and for the new Periers,
do you get together as possible, try to work out
a deal that would be satisfying to the new Premium,
and so we can put it to quickly to a
referum the newfound Labrador and so hoping for the best afterwards.
Maybe Michielago, who was very good friend whins to create
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the former Premier. He invited him to the Sounds Dead
for a hockey game. Maybe that would be one of
the options that the should should try, or even invite
the new Premium to a basketball game, because I gathered
that he was a basketball coach for a long time.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It was an outstanding basketball coach. Yes, yes, yes, well
known actor.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
Would be a better option for Michilago.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Well well, well it's certainly not the leaves, because nobody
ever wins anything with them, all right, Joldanie, good to
have you, thank you.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You tell me if I may allow you quick yes comment.
I watched again last night's election, and I was very,
very impressed with the caliber of people who put up
their name on the ballot. And so the very gracious
speech speech by the going premiere that was, you know,
democracy at best of kudos. You need to Labrador people
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for putting a good show, a good election yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well see, that's why Newfoundland was waiting to hear from you.
And you kissed our butt on the way out. Joldiny
appreciate it. Thank you, take care, good bye. That is
take care. That's my friend, Jeldny Bellavance, the bureau chief
for the press here in Ottawa. All right, when we
come back, two newly elected candidates and Amanda Bittner got
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a great fifteen to twenty minutes coming up next, stand
by for that. Here on the Tim Power Show, Welcome back,
plot out. Who do I have here? Do I have
waiting for one of our candidates?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Here?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Andrea? There you go? All right, well, Jesus, this candidate
needs no introduction, particularly if you follow her great stuff
on social media. Andrea Barbara, the new MHA for Saint
Blands and Meadows, Andrea, congratulations, how does it feel?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Thank you so much. I'm I'm still getting it all
thinking I loved it.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Well, I gotta tell you first, so I have to
tease you. Trevor Taylor is a buddy of mine. And
the fact you had to bring that guy out, my god,
I heard he did yeoman's work to help you out.
How was it to have Trevor out there and others
helping you during this election?
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Amazing? He team all the way down from a calo
it to help me, and I had a couple more
former MHAs as well, Yeah yeah, and Wally Young as well,
and it was phenomenal.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
I don't I don't think.
Speaker 5 (25:44):
I would have been able to do it as well
as I did without them because their guidance and their
expertise really really put me on the right path.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
So look, you are well known on social media, do
a lot of cool stuff if it's interesting. You tell
wonderful stories about home. You're extremely creative. You've worked for
the federal government. But what on earth made you want
to get into politics? What kind of put you in
this place where now you're about to become the MHA
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for Saint barb blandsa metals.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Well. A couple of years ago, I was thinking about
running as MHA because I mean, the seat was open
and I looked into it and I didn't know where
to start. So I started doing a bit of research.
I was like, Okay, you have to apply, you have
to get nominated, you have to interview, you need money,
you need through so much and I just didn't know how.
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But it was something that I always wanted to do
because I really enjoy I enjoy like the government side,
like where I work with the federal government. When I
work with the federal government, I worked a lot in policy,
so in regulations and law enforcement, and I just found
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it really interesting and that's what drawn me to it.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, and that's awesome. Look new people and people with
your experience giving into politics. Trevor will tell you, I'm
a stunned towny, and I think I reinforced that over
the course of the election, because I think me and
others miss that in your community or your writing and
other writings. Rural Newfoundland, perhaps more so than the hardcore
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of Saint John's, there was an appetite for change, wasn't.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
There huge appetite for change Northern Peninsula. A lot of
people have felt forgotten in the last ten years, and
more and more as the years were going by.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
They when you come up to.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
The North, it's like going back in time right now.
The healthcare needs attention, the roads need attention. There's no
cell phone like cell phone service is horrible up here,
and then you banks closing, you have there's hardly any
doctors anymore in the community has gone virtual and it's
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just things are fading. Like you go through the small
communities on the streets. You're in a small community, it's normal.
There's fifteen houses that are empty. People are leaving and
there's not a lot of children.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
A lot of the.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
People up here are older, so the generations that gotten
older up here as well. So it's different up here.
But I see potential. I could see there's a lot
room for light, there's a lot room for growth up here,
and I plan on attracting more people to the North.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Are you going to keep up doing what you do
on social media because it's such a wonderful what you do.
It's so cool and telling the stories and the scenery
and the recipes, and you engage people in our province,
you show them where you're from. Are you going to
have the latitude and ability to continue to do that? Andrew?
Speaker 5 (29:07):
I hope so, because it's part of who I am,
and I love our province, and I really love showing
our culture, and the part of that is through food
and through recipes and the landscape and just showing who
we are on the island. I love that. I love
that about Newfoundland Labrador.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Well, you do it so well. And just before I
let you go, the social media has come up in
the last deck and one of the things the Conservatives
are getting credit for is the fact that they outspent
the Liberals in the last week of the campaign, like
twenty to one on social media advertising. Just for people
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who don't get it. How important is that where you're from,
because it seems to me, more Newfoundland stories, more Newfoundland
conversations are happening on social media.
Speaker 5 (29:59):
Well, me, personally, I spent zero dollars on advertising and
social media. Mine is I am in an algorithm and
people follow me for me. Yeah, so no money was
wasted there for me for advertising. It just happens naturally. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Well, the person that's in the algorithm usually has a
big footprint. Andrea, wish you nothing but Locke. Congratulations again,
thank you for joining us.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
You're welcome, Thanks for having me all.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Right, that is Andrea Barbara the new PC MHA for
Saint Barbe b Lands the Metals. Now we're going to
go to another new MHA, so she's not new to politics,
but as vibrant and energetic as ever. Sheila Larry, the
new MJA for Saint John's East Kitty Vitty Sheila, third
time you pulled it off? How does it feel?
Speaker 8 (30:55):
Oh my gosh, Well, you know today I'm still running
on fume, so she can imagine. This has been a
very hard fought and long campaign.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But just feeling ecstatic. You know what this was.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
I've run seven campaigns now, including my municipal campaigns, and
I have to tell you.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
This was one of the best organized and.
Speaker 8 (31:14):
The most positive campaigns that I've ever ever been a
part of. It really was a testimony to people coming together,
community coming together. The NDP itself had like a phenomenal
organizing team and also great candidates, and it's just so
excited and seeing the increase in voting for the NDP
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for the first time. You know, obviously we would have
liked to have seen more numbers other than myself, and
I'm very grateful for the support that.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I received in this district.
Speaker 8 (31:44):
But you know what, I think it's a good sign
that people really believe that the NDP is a viable option.
And I think that many of these candidates, these strong candidates,
so many incredible women too. I have to have to mention,
I think that this is not the last that we're
going to see in them. So, you know, I'm very,
very excited about what the outcome has been for the NDP.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
As it stands right now, it's a majority government for
mister wakem Jim and Jordan in the last session. We're able,
through different configurations to have significant influence. Neither you nor
Jim have trouble and I mean this in a respectful
way getting your points across and you punch above your weight.
(32:29):
What role do you think you and Jim need to
play in this next sitting of the House of Assembly
given the MoU was not gone yet, there's still huge
issues around healthcare, safety, all the things this election was about.
What role do you want to play, Sheila with Jim
and making sure all perspectives are heard and addressed. Well, look, we.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
All know what the issues are.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
We know it's healthcare affordability for me personally on the door,
A lot of what I heard in Saint John's skat
Vidy was about transparency and accountability. Of course people were Obviously,
democracy is what it is and the people have spoken,
so I mean I was quite surprised myself to see
the outcomes as much of a.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Switch as it was. But the reality is that I
don't care who the.
Speaker 8 (33:16):
Powers are that be. We all need to ensure check
some balances. We need to hold the governing bodies accountable
and there needs to be transparency. So that is going
to be something that will continue no matter who's at
the helm. And I certainly want to give a shout out,
you know, certainly to our leader Jim Din for his success,
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and of course to the Premier elect as well to
mister Tony Wakem. I'm you know what, I've learned a
lot about collaboration through my experience with municipalities, and you
know what, aside from accountability and transparency, I think that
really working together for.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
The people of the province. I mean it's time to
get over this stuff, right, I think it's really important.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Yeah, there aren't enough of us to be constantly at
wits ends. You can disagree, you got and you gotta
have criticism, but you got to find a way to
work together. Leave it there, Sheila, congratulations again, great to
talk to you.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Thanks so much.
Speaker 8 (34:14):
I really appreciate the interest and thanks to all the
supporters and the voters out there.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Thanks. It's great for democracy, all right.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
All right bye. That is Sheila O'Leary, the newly elected
MHA for Saint John's East Kitty Vitty now not elected
to anything, but her brain is worth its weight in
electoral gold. And that is our friend, doctor Amanda Bittner. Amanda,
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your take on where we've ended up, because it's a
bit of a surprise to me. But what do you think?
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Are you surprised though, because it seems like it fits
with the data on one level, right, Like the poll
that came out like last week, we're pretty clear that
things were quite close. And yes, none of them called
for a conservative majority, but it's a pretty slim majority.
Number one and number two they did indicate that things
were really close and the popular vote was really close.
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So for me, it's like a good story about polling.
They got it right.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Well.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
There were three other polls that were a little you're
talking about the MQO poll, which was the closest. There
were three others that were there were there were bigger gaps,
and there'll be lots of discussion about all of that.
It seems to me, though, and you and I talked
about this before, there was a gap in issue in
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the issue set. Having just talked to Andrea Barber, having
talked to some other people in ruralan flight outside the city,
there was really an appetite for change, whereas in the
city it was less. So your take on that, no.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
I think that's right. I think that so it's such
a it's hard to unpack all the things, right, and
we don't have all the information that we need either
to do a good job of that. But what I
would say just from observing the campaign is the Liberal
Party really tried to force us as voters to think
only about the MoU, and voters didn't only care about
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the MoU. And so what we got here is a
situation where there's a disconnect between the liberal parties messaging
and voters demands. Right, So all the folks that have
been knocking on doors were saying that you know, actually
like healthcare, cost of living, safety, poverty, these things were
all big, big issues. And we know that based on
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what life has been like for the past few years.
We've been saying this all along, and so there's the disconnect.
Was a party trying to tell us all what the
issue is versus listening to what people are saying the
issue is, and so I think had they been listening
a bit more, the outcome might have been different. Because
the voting worked quite close, right, and from the start
I've said this is anyone's to win and anyone's to lose,
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and I think that that kind of played out that way.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It certainly did. And again, not trying to take anything
away from mister Wakem in his campaign, because you have
to give them credit. I mean, just from the strategic
aspects aspects of this, I think they recognized early on
they were probably in play in twenty one twenty two seats,
and they won twenty one seats. They focused on it,
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they micro targeted their lessons to take away from the campaign.
You've just talked about some of them know where your
audience is. But what else do you see coming out
of this campaign that is instructive as it relates to
where we may be heading next.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Yeah, that's a great question. I think, you know, again,
anyone's guess. At the same time, there are some pretty
big challenges that we've been facing for a number of
years now that they feel like they've come into a
bit of a head right, And this year has been
a really heightened year and thinking about politics, talking about politics,
threats from the US sovereignties, that issue, terrorist things are hard,
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and then you add in the wildfires and the constant
struggle that a lot of people are experiencing right now,
and people.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Are worn down.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
So my impression is that folks now want government to
just lead, show us the solutions, do your job, tell
us what you're up to, and we're happy. We don't
want to be involved in thinking about politics all the time,
and we don't want to scrutinize everything all the time either, right,
And so I think, you know, Wickham was pretty clear
about saying we're going to have an independent review now,
like I don't think that that your Churchill follows them
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while he was dead. I think we're just going to
maybe now proceed with more investigation, more thinking, more debate,
more deliberation. But that issue is so confusing and remains consusing,
and that's not helpful either, right. So my hope is
that you know, we move forward with that, because if
it's a good deal, it can really fix a lot
of things in this province. But the devil's in the details.
So let's hear what the details are, and then let's
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start thinking about what else we need to do to
get the ball rolling on making life better for people.
And that includes yes, bet our healthcare, That includes yes,
thinking about the cost of living, that dealing with you know,
the high levels at the cost of living, high levels
of homelessness, food and security. These are really big issues
that face all of us across the province. And you know,
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the Liberal government wasn't really talking about those things as
much as it could have been, and it doesn't seem
to have been thinking about them in the way that
the other parties were. So maybe that that those issues
have resonated more with voters in the province who want
some movement on those things.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Yeah, last question here, and it reflects what you've just
said now. I mean you've talked about a more you know,
collaborative approach. Tony wakem jim Din and John Hogan all
talked about that last night. Given our political history and
where we are now, are we at that maturation point
where we can yes, criticize, analyze, study, do whatever is
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necessary but fine common purpose and shed some of the
partisanship for some of the bigger decisions this province needs
to make.
Speaker 6 (40:04):
I think certainly that's possible. I mean, I was heartened
by some of the speeches that I heard last night.
You know, John Hogan talked a lot about you know,
what's good for the future is good for all of us,
and you know, he really did a good job of
wishing luck to the other leaders and you know, conceding
and talking about the importance of democracy in the future
and things like that. So I think that there's certainly
(40:25):
a lot of space for collaboration. And we have some
new people in the legislature who have new ideas and
fresh perspectives, and that's really important. So hopefully, you know that,
hopefully we're able to actually hear from those folks. I
always say it, the most important thing about government is
actually the opposition, and so you know, this is an
opportunity for the Liberal Party to you know, do that
(40:48):
job and take it seriously and help the province you know,
do better, and help the government do better. And so
this is an opportunity really for the future of the province,
which is always true. Whenever you have a transition that's sistic,
you know it can go good and it can go bad,
and it's up to everybody to do their best to
make it go good. So we have a lot of expectations,
(41:10):
I guess at this point.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, we do, and that will be the new premier's challenge.
We'll let him enjoy for a couple of days. And
I also want to echo Jodani Bellevans did. Look, there
was grace from both John Hogan and Jim did last night.
We haven't always seen that in Newfoundland of laborator politics,
so for sure, credit to both of them. All Right, Amanda,
thank you for the time, appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Thanks very much, no flat site.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
All right. That is doctor Amanda bit Nerve from Memorial University.
When we come back, you get a break from the politics.
We're going to talk about Good as Gold, Sila Williams
show back with Shila in a moment here on the
Tim Powers Show, The Tim Power Show, Joining the Conversation
weekday afternoons at four pm on your VOCM. Well this
(41:56):
sounds good. I'm just reading the ticket information for Good
as Goal. Get ready to laugh, sing and be entertained,
joined Sheila Williams for an unforgettable night comedy, singing and
draw dropping acts. Sheila's back, shinier than ever and good
as goal. The show packed with laughs, bigger voices, and
more country music than a honky talk jukebox. Geez, Sheila,
(42:18):
that's pretty damn good.
Speaker 4 (42:19):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
I got a bottle of whiskey in front of me
right now that I was given as a drink, I'd
crack it open all right now, tell me on this
day after the election, when that's all that. We've been
talking about what your show, what your show is going
to do for people, because I think they need a break.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
I'm going to tell you something, Tim, I really think
what it's going to do for people is give them lift.
And you're right, we'll give them a break and a
much needed distraction because the truth is, we get mired
down in our everyday lives, don't.
Speaker 2 (42:51):
We We do.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
Indeed, and so coming to the show, we'll give you
a complete head break. And you know what, the only
time I get a break like that is when I'm
playing a game of pickaball. You know, you can't think
of anything else other than whether you're going to get
it over the nest. So the concert is just going
to be a fantastic show and it'll be country, some rock,
(43:18):
some old times, some new. You know. There's all fresh
new comedy that I've written and Debiell Smith and I
are co producing it, and so there are special guests
as well, Craig Sharp, Dana Parsons and Darren Martin and
a full twelve piece band.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
What do people want to laugh about, now, Sheila? Sometimes
we'd like laughing at ourselves. Sometimes we like the skit comedy.
What are you going to get people to laugh about?
Speaker 7 (43:50):
I appreciate that question so much, you know, because the
truth of the matter is I've often been asked to
roast people or to make a fool of someone. I
will never do that, Tim, And I'll tell you for why,
Because I don't like people to feel bad. If I
make a joke about anyone, it's usually a bit of
(44:13):
self deprecating humor, and it's usually about only ordinary things.
I grew up on a farm here in the Goulds,
and all of my family are talented. All of my
family are for funny, and Mom, I think was the
funniest of all, and she was very quick witted but
it was only ordinary comedy, you know, for an example,
(44:35):
like the far off bull wears long horns. In other words,
you can say whatever you like because you're on Ontario.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
And we have to believe you.
Speaker 7 (44:44):
You can say how long your horns are. We can't
verify that. New Finlanders know what that means, right, Or yeah, no,
I saw him from a distance, the way Patty saw
the moon, you know, and so little sort of things
like this where people are listening and thinking, oh my god,
oh god, that was funny. Okay, but it's past now,
so you got to kind of keep up, and he
(45:06):
you don't keep with it. It's comedy.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
You're almost reminding me of the big blackout in eleven
or twelve or whenever it was. And we got some
fascinating calls from Signal Hill about objects people were seeing
far away. So Sheila, anybody, it's Thursday, sorry, Friday and
Saturday at Holy Heart. Haven't been there in a while.
Just tell us that information and where people can get tickets.
Speaker 7 (45:30):
Thank you. It is. It's Friday, Saturday night. So it's
the seventeenth and eighteenth at Holy Heart Theater here in
Saint John's and it's start at showtime is seven thirty,
so you're home in the bunk at ten thirty.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
Well that's assuming you don't go on the whiskey and
go down to George Street. You know, I'd assumes you
behave yourself.
Speaker 7 (45:50):
That assumes yeah, that's right. But yeah, you you can
get the tickets from Leslie at the box office by
calling five seven nine four four two four, or you
can get them online for those people who can go
on the line. You know, some of my audience, Tim,
I'll just say it. I'll just tell you the truth.
Some of my audience are older because the older people
(46:11):
like me because I'm old myself, you see, and I
grew up when they did, and so most of them
are color in their hair. So they don't know how
to go on the line. So give Leslie calls, she'll
get the tickets.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Well, I call one up every morning on the line.
She's eighty three. She usually tells me to f off,
so I know she's alive. If I get told that
in the morning, there Sheila's so I hear you. Maybe
I'll send her up. You can deal with her at
the show on Friday or Saturday night. Anyway, appreciate having
you great have a great show, or have two great shows.
Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 7 (46:46):
Thank you. I really do appreciate it. And listen. If
you're in town, you give me a jingle and you'll
come to the show as well. And get these people
on the line here who are listening to you to
come on out with you.
Speaker 2 (47:00):
I will do that, all right. That is Sheila Williams
Good as Gold this Friday and Saturday. That is our
show today. Thank you to Claude, thank you to Greg,
thank you to everyone. Back tomorrow with more of the
Tempower Show.
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