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Hey guys, welcome to another episode of The Vikings Tailgate. Hey.
The Vikings Tailgate is brought to you by Ticketmaster, the
official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. It's Niners Week, everybody,
and we have two incredible guests. Al Madrigal. You know
him from The Daily Show, you know him from everything.
He's one of the best stand ups in the country.
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He has some incredible stories about the things that he's
gotten to do for the forty nine Ers organization. And
if you want to check out more of him after
the podcast, Lopez Versus Lopez Season two is going to
be on Netflix in the fall, and then season three
is debuting on NBC a little later in the fall.
Check it out. He's fantastic and alongside him, David Huntsberger,
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one of my favorite comedians and one of my good friends.
Also a diehard Niners fan. You know David from Comedy
Central's Premium Blend. He was on Last Comic Standing, had
his own show on the Sci Fi Network. He's a killer.
If you like him, check out his audio show Intercepts
After You're done listen, guys, is a really really fun one.
I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Recket Reckett, I'm here.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Joining us to discuss this week's opponent, the San Francisco
forty nine ers. We have the great Al Madrigal and
David Huntsberger. Guys, I think there's an easy place to
start here, and I think we can all just take
a moment and enjoy not just that you beat our
common enemy Aaron Rodgers once again this past Monday. But
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there was this specific moment in the first half where
he threw a dart and then he had that grin
on his face kind of like I'm a cowboy that
still knows how to ride like the little wink, and
then he was terrible like and then you guys just
whooped him the rest of the game. That was a
nice for me as an outside observer. I really enjoyed
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what happened on Monday.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
He threw that amazing pass to Gear Wilson's that we
were talking about what a receiver to have. I mean,
it was just in the perfect spot in his hands,
and that was an incredible throat. He's forty years old.
You can't expect to keep it going for that long.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And I just hope he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I did, yeah, same, I hope it eventually ends where
it's like a character in a show where you're just
kind of like, all right, you've run your course, Like
kill his character off. Don't kill him, but just have
him leave this entertainment world of NFL football where he
seems to grab a lot a lot of gravity. People
seem to care what he's saying in that throw, and
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that I was at the games, he might not have
seen his little smirk to the camera like.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Boy, I still got it.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
It just was a very likew like you were saying,
like a gunfighter, I can still hit that nickel. And
then the end of the game fourth and one, you
gotta have it behind him low away. No one brings
out that it was a terrible throw. They were like, oh,
the dB got there a half shade early. It was
a horrible throw. The tailor Tyro Taylor made the exact
same throw. At the end of the game, I gets
the same dB on the same route touchdown. It was
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the right place to put it, And that was a
microcosm of like Rogers was it two or three years
ago with the Packers has this amazing comeback.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Leads to a field goal. He's skipping down the field
after big throws.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
He's laughing as he goes to the sideline, skip ahead
to the playoffs, just absolutely crushed, just on the sideline, disheveled, sad,
s dour. That's the Aaron Rodgers experience. When it doesn't
really matter that much, he's smirking and winking it up,
and when it does matter, he's he's sad.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
It does have that vibe of how come I'm watching
Ed Helms be the boss for the third straight season.
That's what it feels like to me watching Aaron Rodgers
trot out for the Jets. I'll tell you this, I'm
not a big like talker. Even as I was growing
up and I was becoming a huge sports fan and
you guys were dominating, there was something cool about San Francisco,
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Jerry Rice, Joe Montana, and Steve Young. So I've never had,
despite your success, any animosity towards the Niners.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think we both I mean and I like the Vikings,
you know, even though they're in there's there's certain teams
and I've been to the stadium and been to Minnesota,
you know quite a bit for stand out. Everyone's cool.
It's it's it's you're you guys are hard to dislike.
To tell you the truths.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
You spend a little time with us is what it takes.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's it's been interesting. Yeah. I did a bunch of
daily show stuff when we were in Minneapolis, and it's
just it's unlike anything else. It's just shocking. It's like
such a culture shock for me to go there because
I remember being in McDonald's and I was driving tanks
in Like I want to say, Cassoda is that away.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
There's a lot of Oda's, so it's got to be
a place.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah and soda and there's a place where you can
ride around with a chicken a bikini while you're driving
a tank. And then I took that rush to Saturn's.
I think the piece is called tanks for the memories
and because we don't need tanks, but we still make
a bunch of tanks. It's the United States government just
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makes a bunch of tanks, but they're useless and they're
just sitting in a field somewhere. So I got to
drive in this tank. It was amazing. But I went
to McDonald's before. And when you walk into and Huntsburg,
you sis, when you're traveling, when you walk into a
McDonald's in Minnesota and it is a one Caucasian staff,
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you like check the door, make sure that like time has.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
You're not a Jordan Peele Moody all of a sudden.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Yeah, Like you walk in because in Los Angeles, anywhere
in California, where Texas, most places it's like it is
one Latina, like pretty much like they have a Latina workforce.
And I walk in there and I go, yeah, could
I get a two sausage make griddles? And then the
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lady goes, uh, oh, sure, that's a great choice. You're
gonna love the burst of pancake flavy. I'm like, what
is happening? This is insane. I couldn't believe. We're like yeah,
but yeah, it's hard hard people not to like.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Let me let you in a little secret. Alice, one
of those Minnesota whites who has been no exaggeration fired
from the same McDonald's three different times. Whatever you think
you see whatever, Like, we're fine, we're having a nice time. Man,
we just really are gonna we're gonna take that home
with us. We're gonna remember your face and we're not
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We're gonna probably not even let it out on our deathbed.
I've learned in the last few years, each fan base
has its own like truly its own personality. Like I've
always said, Packer fans are so fascinating because they're like
a trust fund kid who thinks the world is out
to get them, that thinks they have like a raw deal.
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They're like the NFL hates us, You the guy who
the trophy is named after. I don't think that's right
at all.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Minnesota, is you know the the Browns are the true
Charlie Brown. We think we're Charlie Brown, but we're so
desperate to win that we're always grabbing on to hope.
So there's something about our psychology where we're not gonna
go to a place where a teams won a bunch
of titles and had Joe Montana and Jerry Rice and
pop up off back. I'm worried the moment we get
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that first title. If you try to hackle some of us,
it's gonna be Oh I was.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
It was in the stadium. I think I'm when it
was a season opener about six years ago. I want
to say it was the Niners, and I went to
that game, went to Murray's the night before, hung out
with all the San Francisco Beat reporters, got blind drunk,
and then we go into tailgate Minnesota Vikings. Tailgate took
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us in immediately, No, you know you're wearing the wrong
you know nothing, just like took us in. And then
I was at the game without incident, and just at
the end of the game, there's a drunk guy just
looked at me and he goes yah, and oh there
you go. All right, fine, here are you? Thank God
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it's not a game somebody has called me.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
David came to the Niners Vikings game last year with
Chad Daniels and Kelsey Cook and they he got a
first class seat to an overflow of San Francisco emotions
with a bunch of outrageously overly polite Viking things.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I don't know if that's how I would describe it.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It was roughly that I was to my left was
I would say there were six total people. One of
them or maybe two or three. The two or three
behind me to the left were quiet Vikings fans. The
kid right next to me was he was one of
those people that's an absolute nightmare to be next to.
He would say to me, I'm so sorry, it's my
first game, and I'd be like, yeah, but you don't
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have to be like this. But he was just up
every second and with his arms out, so I watched
most of the game through his elbow. He's like sweating on,
he's got a shirt off. They eventually kicked him out
at the end of the game. And all these nice
Minnesota fans are around us, and behind us are four
or five terrible Niners fans, So that hurt. One of
this group was really representing football in general great. And
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it's one of those games you go to You're like,
I don't like being in public. I don't want to
be around people. This is so miserable. And yet I'm
looking out the whole stadium and I'm really squinting and like,
this is the only situation like this. It is fifty
thousand nice people and this lunatic next to me. It
was so unfair. And then he got caught vaping and
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that was so minor. That was maybe in the second
or third quarter.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Stadium. I didn't seem vapy.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Get it.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Get it.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
They make him walk it down and toss it down
like near the mascot and the cheerleaders, and he goes
back to his seat and he continues to just be
a sports fan and he's doing nothing. That's like he's
being a little vulgar. And you know, there's kids around seven.
He's yelling some some gnarly stuff.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
We're like, all right, it's the early lines. One of
the Larry David's early lines from Kurby Your Enthusiassm is
that I find your exuberance a little overwhelked.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Yeah, I mean that is.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
If I could have just said that to him quietly,
he would have spitting all for me, waking up tequila.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Oh no, bro, but it's my first game.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I gotta back up on his feet, elbow in my face.
And then like mid early mid fourth quarter, they just
come and like grab him, like you're done. It would
have taken one fan Vikings or otherwise to go. He's okay,
and everyone's politely stared ahead.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Like, honestly, what's happening here? I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
No one got his back and not really said a
lot about how everyone felt about him, because it did
feel like, I don't know if this is enough to
get kicked out. It's annoying. I don't like this experience,
but he paid to get here.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
When I go to opposing team stadium, I am extremely respectful.
I will not stand up and celebrate. I put fist
bump my buddy sitting down next to me. I'm not.
There's no audible take that I'm not. There's zero opposite
a tomp, the utmost respect for I'm in your house
because I hate it when people Because I've been going
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to the Niner game since i was five years old,
and I've been to a endless games of Candlestick. We
sat in a pretty rough section. I had blood on
my handrailed for a long time, and I used to
escort my father out when he was a little old man.
If we played the Raiders in a preseason game, look
up news articles from forty nine Ers Raiders preseason Candlestick.
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It was like a sporting event in the movie Predator too.
I got the mowing guys smashing the dude's head against
the sink. Somebody die.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah, they had to discontinue that series because of that.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, you can't have that game.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
It was one of the it does that, one of
those games where people were all just like, we're gonna
go there and fight. That's what we're that's what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, it's like our gang versus your gang, and it's brutal.
It's this Bay Area. You know, the Niners got labeled
wine and cheese fans a long time ago, which is
hilarious because we're incredibly violent and it's upsetting wasted people.
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I mean, I was in the parking lot for this Jets.
I went to the Jets Niners game, and it is
rowdy that the Niners who are actually trying to organize
all the tailgaing and restrict people from parking together. You
have to be ushered to your spot. And meanwhile in
Buffalo they're like jumping off roots on the folding tables
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and we're like, they're trying to restrict it because people
just go huge and then get into the game and
they're wasted.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Do you let me ask you this because I know
both you guys have been around. So we have a
mutual friend, Scott Kegley, who was at the Niners, who
organized some some of the events that you guys I
think took part in a long time ago. He was
a Viking employee for a while. And I have now
they have made the mistake of letting me be around
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the team for a few years, and I don't handle
it well. Al, you have not only gotten to be
around the team, you have gained access to being in
front of your owner and other own Like I want
you to tell me about that, because I don't know
that a lot of people know about that. But also
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I'm fascinated. There's no way I survive that. There's no
way I handle it like an adult. Every time I
go to a game on Sunday to work, Like when
I had to get Chad and David onto the field,
I'm walking through the field being like, just don't just
don't go out there and snag a pass, Like I'm
I have to talk myself through being close to stuff
because I'm a maniac.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, I'm as a lifelong fan. This is a huge
dream of mine. But I got the cole and Huntsburg
who was there when this was happening, because we met
probably in two thousand and six or seven, maybe sounds Dave.
When you look over my house and you can I
bring my buddy who's a Packer fan. What did I say?
Speaker 4 (14:54):
I think I just wanted to sit there quietly, and
you're like, I can't have a Packer fan in my house.
And I was like, I like this guy. I really
respected that. Like, I'll, you know, test that line. Oh, yeah,
everyone's welcome.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I didn't say everyone was welcome.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I didn't know you. So I'm like, hey, man, my
buddy lives in the area. He wants to watch the game,
and you're like, can't have them in my house?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Like I like that. And then we went.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I took another buddy of mine who also was a
fan of a different team. We go to a tailgate
with your whole family, but you weren't there that time,
and my buddy Jake shows up.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Oh, a giant in a.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Giant skier and your family as if they had like
they just have this ready for anyone. In that moment,
he reaches into the cooler grab they go no, no, no, man,
this is for you. They opened a different cooler and
hand him like a Mickey's or like a cold forty five,
so really rough at ten am.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
It was so great.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, so that's why I was so amazing. When you
go to Minnesota, everyone's like super nice handing you like
their regular beers, like we had, like like no, you
only drink Mickeys.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I like that though.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
I think it adds to if you're gonna buy into
this whole, like camaraderie and community and like you know,
then soccer, they were the scarves and they go beat
people up in alleys over like a game where you
can't use your hands.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
Go full tilt. They'll get into it.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Used the speed roast people when they would walk by
because we were in our tailgate spot, wasn't it. We're
near an entrance, so people just walk through us. And
I remember this guy walks by with the Donovan McNab
jersey next to a guy in a Jeff Garcia jersey,
and they were buddied.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I hate like two friends who were oh, we're friends
with the opposing team. They walk in together and I
remember like five plus five equals get out, like just
ripping on everybody as they walk by. My brother had
a blue Healer, one of those Australian shepherd dogs, like
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a hunting dog. Yeah, at the tailgate, So we would
seek the dog on people he could, he could, that
dog would bite on command because they're so smart, and
so he would just would send them to attack people. Yeah,
we were horrible anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
It's a really reasonable response.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Yeah, attack them. But that guy, this guyt Elway Jersey,
just wants to get into the game. This is a
bit by a dog on the way and guys drinking
country club liquor. All right. I get a phone call
from our friend Steve Simone. He's like my buddy from
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the Eagles, and I guess he was at the Chiefs before.
This great guy Rob Alvarna, Rob has Me, Dave Dan
Soder who's hilarious, and Dan and Tommy John Agan do
these pieces for Levi Stadium, like telling people how to
be fans, because when you switch stadiums, all these new
people show up with the seat licenses and you're like, hey, morons,
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don't scream on offense. When we're on offense, you shut up.
So we made a bunch of instructional videos for people
that are going to be going to the stadium when
we're on defense, you scream.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Which to go to the like size thing. Oh we're
fan base.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
We could this pageantry, this this legacy of five Super Bowls,
Like it's always turnover. There's always new people that show up, like, oh,
we got these new seats, what do we do? They's
screaming on third down. So yeah, we had to make
these like educational videos, like stop being idiots at the stadium.
You're ruining the experience.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So we make a bunch of those. Then I get
the nod to roast Trent Balki on his fiftieth birthday
party up at some San Jose Silver Creek country Club
and Jed York is there. My opening line murders and
but Keena Turner is there. Tom Rathman is there. I
had jokes for scouts. Doug Wilson, the GM of the
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San Jose Sharks, is famous Chicago Blackhawk is in the
audience because he's friends with Trent, and so I knew
who was going to be there and just killed. I
knew that Trent was fighting with Jim Harbaugh at the time. So,
and this is a long time ago. My opening joke was, hey, ready,
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before we start, a couple of announcements. Jim Harbaugh cannot
be here tonight. He's on a Disney cruise with his family,
where I have it on good authority that he's already
made Goofy cry twice. And he tried to sign Peter
Pan as a four string quarterback, which is ridiculous because
we already have Colt McCoy. How many Peter Pans do
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we need? And we were like, oh, Trent Dilford just goes,
oh whoa okay, Like they just loved it. They were
in and I might jokes for I did an impression
of Trent Balki, which I don't think I can pull
off right now. Or oh yeah, it's like doings macho man.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
No, it's more like super Daily. Here's the thing. You
gotta bring it down here, real wreck.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
If he'd answer his own questions, didn't you give me this?
He would answer his questions. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Everything was phrased with a question. And so I was
a big fan of things like will you marry me?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That's a great question. You could say yes, you could
say no, like.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
He would never ever ever, like, hey, is this kid
that you got in the fifth round?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You like him? Could he be a star? Absolutely does
he have some health concerns.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah, he might so had jokes for Jed York. I
go Jed, let's hear for Jed York. Jed went to
Notre Dame. One of my mom owns a football team, scholarship. Congratulations,
I'm being the most successful guy named Jed the second
up as a meth dealer and friends.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Now this is like shortly before they started flying a
plane above the stadium saying fire. Jed and and our
lifelong family had the best advice. Is just like I
think from either your dad or your grandfather, was like,
it just goes on and on. You're gonna see this,
You're gonna see the highs. Just hang in there because
people were like turning their backs toward the owner, toward everyone,
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and I'll just like stay true to the organization. And
I feel like that was so smart and hard for
a lot of people to do.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
I knew he wanted to win. I knew the guy
wanted to win.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
So it's like, did you feel like was it one
of those things when you when you went in with
the jokes and you start crushing immediately. Because there's there's
two things that can happen when sports and comedy get together,
either the greatest thing in the world happens or the
worst thing in the world happens, and you find you
have experiences, you find out pretty cool. So the moment
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you did you feel from that first joke, they just
like Bulky was in. They all got it, and then you.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Just they loved me. I was riffing like a bunch
of trance friends from Minnesota because he's up near Benjamin orje.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Bemidgi, let's call it that. It's definitely Bemidgie. But I
love but Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But Jimmy, the Miidgie just too north for me. I'm
looking more in Brain or round Lake.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So you're like, I won't see him for months, Like
what are you up to?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Man?
Speaker 4 (21:58):
He's like, I have this property, app where's this? And
then you know my partner is from Minnesota. She's like, oh,
there's nothing around there.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
To everyone listening, Al is seriously looking at property in
Minnesota from time to time.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
He's like, it's a compound.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
So I think it was bikers that got seized by
the ATF, but the compounds for sale.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I find so many lakefront hotels that me and like
me and a bunch of my comedy writer friends are like, okay,
there's eight of us. There's an eight cab, so.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
We have fresh water, we're gonna put solar. Like, yeah,
we're just idiots. So anyway, I kill I'm riffing a
bunch of his friends from the Meggie did it?
Speaker 1 (22:44):
That one was good?
Speaker 3 (22:46):
The Meggie are there and I go there laughing at
Jed's expense, and I go, don't laugh at Jed's expense.
He'll his family will buy a mall near where you
live and shut it down, just because that's only you
can from like mall money. The Yorks were the first
guys to the Bartolows were from Canton and Youngstown and
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then all, yeah, it's like a mall family like his.
I think his grandfather had, like they invented the malls.
They had all money. So then I get a couple
other gigs from them. I roast the owners before Super
Bowl fifty, all the owners, all the owners, which is insane,
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that's wild. This is the lineup Jeremy Renner, me, Steve
miller Band and I'm sitting with Robert Kraft and his
like forty year old girlfriend that I'm sitting next to
the CEO of PEPSI. And then I also have less
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Membez and Julie Chan at my table. And then Robert
Kraft's bodyguard is next to me, and I look at
him and I go, hey, can I run some jokes
by real quick? I go, I was gonna open up
three minutes. I was gonna talk about my kids. And
he goes me. He goes, can I be honest with you?
And I go, yeah, sure, he goes, no one wants
to hear about your kids? And good, all right. So
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Jeremy Renner goes up kind of eats it, but he's
the coolest dude ever. I mean he's like, you know,
it's and then but Indur and Yugi, the CEO of PEPSI,
looks at me and goes, who is he and why
is he talking? I go, he's an avenger, hurt locker, nothing.
And then I go up. But we're in San Francisco
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City Hall. It's like this huge rotunda. Instead, I go
up and I lest move. Vez goes talking to the microphone.
You know, I know, like to this. Acoustics are terrible,
so I just eat it. I get heckled by Jerry Jones.
All the jokes are good, but they're all there and
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it was summed up like bon Jovi is behind me
in a horrible seat. The kids from Vandos family, those
kids come running up the guy in his fiance and
they go, oh my god, that was hilarious. We to
the comedy store all the time with La Joya. They go,
you understand though, why we couldn't laugh audibly though? Right?
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Because I had great jokes. I curated a bunch of stuff,
like I pulled in the A team for this, I
go would and they just only laughed at the stuff
that where the people weren't there.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Oh sure, yeah, that's gotta that's gotta be an interesting
vibe because I mean, I would assume the competitive nature
of those people who've achieved that level of family or
individual success, like there's there's just this like wall up
where you're not gonna let yourself be like, thank you,
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I am Jerry Jones. And that was a funny joke
at my expense.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
No nothing, nothing. They can't believe that someone's talk back
to him like Arthur Blank, the guy who's said home Depot,
I go, you look like a mask that Johnny Manzelawar
is in Vegas, you know, you even look real. And
those were all the safe ones, like they cut a ton,
So anyway we do that. Then I did the players
when the during COVID with Dan Soder we had a
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great time and uh, you know you're doing Bosa jokes
in front of Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And he said, the players really dumb.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
They did. But like I got everybody, like some great
ones like John Lynch. John Lynch always looks like he
just got yelling. They got through yelling at his wife
about where she put his good khakis. And it's all
just like your connections to this team are surreal. I mean,
my dad used to stand outside Candlestick and collect little
like five x seven black and white things that they
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would hand out through the press and he'd wait for
them to be signed. So I have a bunch of
stuff behind me that says to Alan Ray, you know
my my brother, Like I have a rookie Jill Montana
that says to Alan's crazy. So like, to get this
close to your organization has been amazing. And I fly
up for pretty much every game. Huntsberger and people come
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over to my house. We have a great collection. I
get this little textrad called La Niner Game and then
Dave Huntsberger might be the most knowledgeable fan that I know,
so it's like having a satistician call.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Yet afterwards, the reason I like talking to Dave and
so and Dave gave birth to my favorite football theory
that I have pushed out as my own ever since.
You were the first person, Dave to tell me this idea, like,
somebody someday is going to draft a rookie quarterback, play them,
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take advantage of their rookie deal, and when they're not
a superstar, when they're in that mid tier seven to
fifteenth best quarterback and think they're gonna go. I don't
care how much pressure there is to have a decent quarterback.
I'm gonna draft another one. I'm gonna start over, and
I'm gonna keep doing it. And the only way I'm
gonna stop is I have a Hall of Famer And
I've thought about that ever since. I think it's still coming.
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I'm not convinced it's not coming with your team, but
somebody is gonna do that at some point. And yeah,
talking to you, Dave about football, I basically listen and
then use your takes elsewhere.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
Well, thanks, fellas. I don't like how invested.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I have been.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
I've been peeling back a little bit from like because
going to the facility and you're where I wasn't in
a jersey, luckily, but I have like a polo that's
in al has one too, like the old Bill Walsh style,
with like the logo. We've hand put them on these
polo shirts. I feel like I started this craze and
I'm sitting there essentially a handmade shirt. And then you
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have like twenty five year olds who are huge coming
out of the weight room and taketos what's up, bro?
And You're like, I made this shirt and I've been
a fan of the team. You just feel so odd
being in their presence, Like I shouldn't be this invested in,
like this person, this is just their job. And yet
when when the Niners drafted George Kittle in the fifth round,
you know who announced his name, our friend All Madrigal.
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So I'm like digging deep on this tight end who
didn't play a lot at Iowa and had some injury concerns,
was a bit undersized, but I'm like studying the footage.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
I'm like, hey, man, if.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Things go right, they might be playing you saying that
when he's inducted into the Hall of Fame, and damn it,
he's on that track.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
I just wish I had that one back though, because
I had this old man. If you dig up this footage,
I had this old man, and they made me do
it with two super fans, and I have this old
guy in the green room, non stump giving me the business.
So he just when he goes, you're a comedian, tell
me joke. Tell me joke, comedian, Tell me a joke, comedian, Hey, comedian,
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tell me a joke. You're not funny? Are you funny?
Are you even a funny comedian? And I'm just quiet,
being super polite, and I just think to myself after
he says it, like the fourth time ago, I'm getting
this guy live on air, and he was being such
a I just made a comment about his breath while
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we were I was doing the pick. I go next
to me is whatever his name was, and I go,
whose breath is as hot as it is stinky? And
he goes really, and I go, yeah, it's a problem,
and you need to all right, lead's showing this pick.
He's a fifth rounder from Iowa.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Nothing like nothing like letting pettiness and anger ruin an
all time moment for a kid who sat outside the stadium.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
I've talked to him about it. I don't think he
likes it. I mean because he also said he's like
you look down when I did tell him, and I'm like, yeah,
they just handed it to me. What do you figuring?
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like?
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Good?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Memorize it and the nunciation on your way out?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
What a what a lunatic anyone on earth would have?
I mean, I know Kittle believes in himself, but anyone
and during that draft twenty seventeen that would have gotten
that card?
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Oh hell yeah, George Kittle, the thirst rate guy from Iowa.
Hell yeah, look out everybody. I guars you no one
outside of Iowa knew his name.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yeah, well you iss you. He said, it's like lazy gentleman,
future Hall of Famer and total badass. You say that,
then they'll use it, then they'll play. Now you don't, like,
I have a lifetime but regret.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
For commenting on an old man's hot breath. Yeah, I've
gone the other way with it, Dave, because I think
I'm also super fan lunatic. But you get that close
to it and you go oh, I need to peel
back because you feel yourself going over kind of a ledge.
But uh, I'm I've decided I'm going like I'm I'm
a grown up enough to control my actions, and so
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I've decided to let myself go over the edge because
I gotta tell you right now for the Vikings, this
new thing and I don't know what's gonna happen. Everybody's like,
now you're gonna get a real test. I didn't even
go into this season like with an amount of games
we need to do in Kirk's in Atlanta. We've got young
players and free agents all look like there's a couple
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I know you guys had to have felt this at
one point before you entered this era, but there's a
couple guys on our team. Jordan Addison who had that
stole that interception last year. Dallas Turner, who I have
no idea how he fell to seventeen this ivan pace, dude,
there's a few guys on this team. It's not unreasonable
that they jump up and are really really good. And
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if they do that and you have all this cap space, like,
I'm just in this moment where yeah, I want to
win the games but man, what a new after six
You had to have felt this after Harbaugh, after six
years of something that worked but didn't work. It's kind
of now an open future. So I'm pumped about this game,
but I'm not invested in the win and lost the
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way everybody else is. I just want to see how
we stack up against a team that's been where you
guys have been the last couple of years.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Wait, I'm gonna head you off at the pass there,
because being at that game last year, that is my
least favorite thing about Viking Space, and I feel like
that's why all the kicks sailed outside the uprights. Don't
think the entire stadium sits there and goes, oh geez,
oh gosh.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I don't, don't you kind of aut I don't care
about the outcome. I just want to see how we
stack up. And no, no, I.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Want to win the game. That's not what I'm doing.
I'm just I'm just saying I'm enjoying the season in
a different way than I have the last six years.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
And what David was saying is that your complacency is
self fulfilling prophecy. You're getting there going oh geesuk, Like yeah,
they just got a real pancake flavor. Uh, and you're
you're doom.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
You gotta just be relentlessly optimist. I mean al during
the the Chip Kelly year was like this, we got
him this week, This week we got we got Blaine
Gabbert's gonna get him.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
This week, we got him.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
You have to be that you have. Yeah, like they
had good plays. Not every game is fifty to nothing
at halftime. They're always The NFL is so close. There's
so much parody that if your team loses.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
I was an odd believer in Blaine Gabbert. I'm gonna
tell you that much. I had more faith in Blaine
Gabbert than most people ever.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Should he stuck around for a while. What about Donald,
I'm so happy. Yeah, I think you know it would
probably I didn't watch. I knew there was talking preseason
about you guys starting the rookie, but.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I don't think it was ever real. I don't. I
think best case scenario for a guy like Kevin O'Connell
would have been the team competes. And I mean JJ
McCarthy is so young. You just give him all the
reps in practice and you bring him along at the
right speed. And I gotta tell you, like the moment
that Donald went to you guys lasted the season and
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didn't leave there with a bad reputation. He left there
with a people saying nice things about him. I was like, well,
this this is the guy. He made a throw on Sunday.
I don't think everybody's talking about enough. He dropped back
to about the two yard like this is when we
were backed up to the half yard line. We went
on a ninety nine yard touchdown run, but right drive,
but he dropped back. He threw this thirty forty yard
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sideline out to Justin Jefferson. It looked simple, but Jefferson
did not He literally did not break stride and on
that throw the amount of times in the NFL where
there's not even a moment of speed up or slow down,
that's a pretty hard throw.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So I don't know what's going to happen when he
gets pushed off schedule and things get difficult. But I
like one week in I can confidently say like, well,
this guy can throw this out of the ball. He
really can.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
That was a good pickup and I think, yeah, you
are going to see that with our situation, we have
to you know, we have the pretty contract coming up.
They've done a good job of managing cap space. I'm
not sure what happens to debo, but this is definitely
a year we were in a window.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
To Hey, is that what it feels like? Does this
feel like after being in as far as you were
the last two years, do you feel like if it
doesn't happen, now, we're gonna have to re We're gonna
have to re up in some different way.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
I think as long as we have Purty, we're kind
of a good pretty and Shanahan and Lynch combo is
a pretty solid place to be, so I think we're
in spot. And then this kid on the offensive line, Poony,
that everyone was talking about.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
He's gonna make the Pro Bowl. Yeah, I mean he's
They've been complaining about the oh line. Oh they didn't
invest in the old line. Oh man, they didn't take
someone in the first round. They did, and he's he's
so good. He fills a hole and like levels up
the whole right side of the offensive line. And those
are the things you have to do drafting, Like the
Trey Lance thing should have sunk them. And then they look,
you know, they they their personnel department. I think really
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took it personal that, oh, it's not you guys. You know,
you don't get to make these draft picks. And like
they've hit on so many late round guys like Hufunga
and uh basically the fifth round is like Diamador Lenoil. Yeah,
Kittle's a fifth round guy. They have a bunch of
fifth round hits. DJ Reed, who is playing for the Jets,
who's really great one that.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Got Jennings the seventh rounder, you know, let's.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Say, seventh round guy. They got Jacob Cowing this year.
They have some dudes that are like coming up. What
you need to do? You need to fill the tub
if guys leave, and I think they're really well stocked
to do that. And to your point about like the quarterbacks,
you know they it makes a big You have banners
walking in of the quarterback and people go, oh, I'm
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going to this like Disneyland essentially, and there's my hero
to welcome me. I see him on all the commercials
and he leads the late fourth quarter drives and that's
my guy. It makes a big deal if your franchise
has one of those guys, even if it's like a
Dak Prescott, who's not a real threat in the postseason,
but he is your team's Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
It's important to get him on a banner.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
But I think when they win early on their rookie contract,
if you have like a prescribed thing, Hey, you were
all pro, you led the league in this and this
and this. Your contract looks like this homes deal. It's
like ten years, you've checked all the boxes. It's a
crazy amount of money. And then but they moved on
from Trey Lance, they moved on from Zach Wilson. They
move on from these quarterbacks so quickly now that I
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think that's the reason is they're like, Okay, we found one.
We have Mickey Mouse on the banner. Now we need
to draft well and fill it up around him. So
I feel real optimistic that they they do that.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
They're doing that regardless of him coming into a bigger contract.
They've stocked because that's the thing. If you don't, you
can get by that thing where they go from making
no money to ten twelve percent of the salary cap.
But in those three four years that they're rookie, if
you don't stock the barrels, so you got a bunch
of cheap guys who are studs around them. It becomes
real hard, real quick.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
You don't have to hit on every draft pick. You
gotta hit like Poony just getting one. I think the
whole fan base like, hey, all right, got like a
guy who's like penciled in to be there for a
few years.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Dude, if you get a guy who becomes a stud
in not the first round, that feels like you won
the draft. Yeah. I appreciated a ton guys, Thank you
so much for doing this. I hate to do this
for you, but I want predictions. That's that's the only
fun thing about the show. Actually, I feel like Al
is gonna lean in and enjoy that part.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
All right, I'm gonna say Niners thirty four twelve.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, I was gonna say something along those lines too.
I think they know Donald. I think Donald didn't really
get to see Sorenson as the d guy he's got.
He saw Wilksaw last year and that scheme, so he
doesn't really know them the way that Vikings fans are
hoping he does. I think the Niners new front four
with like Elliott is like a beast. He really sure
things up next to Hardgrave that really freeze things up
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for I think it's gonna be tough on Donald and
getting off schedule is gonna be He's good there though,
so I think he can.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I think he'll make some amazing plays.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
But I also think he'll have one or two we go, oh,
that's old Donald showing up, and that could be enough
to just tip it where it goes to me in
a close game to like two or three plus scores.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
We scored on and they were field goals. We scored
on eight possessions in a row. Yeah, it's the Jets,
who are we were a good defense.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
So thirty four to twelve and two or three touchdowns.
So you're you're a.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Talking smack.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
I can't. I can't you think I'm gonna sit here
this whole time and not turn not take advantage of
a callback? What are we even doing here?
Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah? All right, I respect it, guys.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
I appreciate it. Ton, Thank you for doing it. Thank you,
thanks again for joining us on this week's episode of
The Tailgate Huge. Thank you to Al Madrigal. Check out
Lopez Versus Lopez, Netflix and then NBC in the fall.
Check out David Huntsberger's audio show Intercepts. You're Gonna love
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