October 23, 2024 • 29 mins
Welcome back to the Vikings Tailgate presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. The Vikings dropped their first game this past weekend 31-29 to the Lions and host Cy Amundson brought back our favorite Detroit superfan, Zach Martina, to review the contest. Cy and Zach discuss the key plays from Sunday, the feeling that both teams are on a collision course towards the NFL playoffs, the competitive nature of the NFC North, and debate the updated power rankings. All of this and more is in today's episode of The Vikings Tailgate presented by Ticketmaster - The official ticket marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings. Also, check out Zach Martina in St. Paul, MN this Friday, Oct. 25th and Saturday, Oct 26th at the Laugh Camp Comedy Club. Get your tickets now at zachmartina.com
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another episode of the Tailgate. It's a short week. Your
Vikings are playing the Rams on Thursday night, right after
a difficult loss to the Lions. We decided to instead
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of chasing down a Rams fan on short notice, we
would do a follow up episode to probably the biggest
and best game in the NFL so far this year
and look forward as well. We brought Zach Martina back
to break down the thirty one to twenty nine Lions
win and talk about a little bit of stuff in
the future. I think you guys are gonna love it,
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and hey, please support Zach go see him do some
live stand up this weekend Friday October twenty fifth and
Saturday October twenty sixth, at the Laugh Camp Comedy Bar
in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Tickets are available now at Zachmartine
dot com. Enjoy the episode Everybody and the Game. This week,
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the Rocket Ricketts, I mean your Minnesota Vikings have lost
their first game of the year against what some people
believe to be the best team in the NFC, perhaps
the best team in the NFL. We brought Zach Martinez back,
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no pomp, no circumstance on the introduction here, just Zach
is back. His team won. I'm bitter and frustrated. Zach,
let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I am not bitter and frustrated.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's you know, That's not what I was going to
ask you. You know, I was going to ask you
something different, and I was leaving a space in there
due to my anger.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, okay, I'm sorry. I just I misread that. I apologize.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, totally, you totally misread it. So my There's been
kind of two schools of thought about the Vikings loss
to the Lions on Sunday. One is, hey, we went
toe to toe with the one of the best teams
in the NFL, probably the best team in the NFC.
We were right there till the end. We almost had
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it right. And then the other school of thought is
it was closer than it seemed. If we don't get
that scoop and score it's they might push it out
like it really wasn't as competitive as the tightly contested
end made it seem as a lion's feil. And on
the winning side, how did you see it? How did
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you receive the Vikings performance?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I saw it more as the former. That was the
entire game. I mean, first of all, credit to Vikings fans.
I'm watching at home, and that stadium was insane. That
stadium was so insane at the beginning of the game
that I mean I looked at my wife and I
was like, this is gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It was. I mean, you could feel it. I could
feel it in Michigan. It was crazy. So credit to
the Vikings fans. They came out cool.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Thank you. I love your compliment on our stadium. Guy,
I'm in a bad mood. I'm in such a bad mood.
I'm in such a bad it's.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The state of the art. You guys made a good investment.
You guys made a good investment in that state.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I know what you're doing. Everybody thinks Oh, that is
very nice of Zact, But I know what you're doing.
Just make your damn point. Quit buttering me up with golf.
Dam that sure is a loud stadium. You got there, Now,
let me cut you down. Would you like to Would
you like to talk about the juicy lucies in town?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, I'm still recovering from the one I had last man.
But what I will say is that thing you guys
do before the game, with like this whole clappy thing,
I will that's cool.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I will drive to Michigan and throw you in a
great lake.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
My choice, though, I get to choose the lake. I
would say that it was the The game was very,
very entertaining. I was never I was never ever comfortable
the entire game. That seemed like two teams that were
playing for something that wasn't, in my opinion, one team
that was far and away better than the other team.
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I know you mentioned that scoop and score and things change.
But on the flip side, you know, yes, the call
was right on the Brian Branch stripsack. I'm sorry, the
strip and run into the end zone. Yes he was out,
but they're like, oh, it was closer than it was.
The ball was moving, when was it moving? Like that
could have gone a different way as well, and then
it's a then it's a total blowout.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I think it was just I think it was a
very competitive game. I was not comfortable even. I mean
when they at that the end of the game, when
they're like, no, we're gonna have one second on the clock. Still,
I was like I was at that Thursday night game
where Aaron Rodgers through the Hail Mary for Green Bay
and beat the Lions like a sixty five yard thing
with one second left. And I mean there is a
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little bit of PTSD from that. So I was not
comfortable until that game.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Read Zeros, I think you said it right. It felt
like two teams playing for something. And this has been
my talking point, like everybody's really jacked about this defense,
and I am as well. Here's ing. I'm a guy
who knows nothing about anything, but if you look globally
at the NFL, dominant defenses are never truly dominant anymore.
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That's not how the league works. Once you get to
the playoffs, if you are gonna win three or four
games against great football teams, somebody's gonna put a thirty,
thirty five, thirty eight on you. The Cleveland Browns, they
go to the playoffs last year as this vaunted unreal
defense and CJ. Stroud throddles them. If you think of
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the teams that are in the upper crest of the league, right,
you think about I mean, even though the Texans lost
to the Green Bay Packers, but you think about the Texans.
You think about the Chiefs, right, you think about the Bills,
You think about the Lions, the Niners who are down
this year. But you think about the Eagles, you think
about the Packers. These are all teams that on any
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given week, they have a lot of weapons and they
can put points up. I'm not gonna say they're gonna
do it constantly, but the idea that you're gonna walk
into the NFL playoffs and hold three or four of
the best teams in the NFL under twenty four points
is complete and utter nonsense. And so to me, what
a great defense is is it's a defense that holds
teams in the regular season most of the time, has
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its lapses. But then when you get in one of
those situations where you're gonna give up a thirty plus,
like the Vikings did on Sunday. Can they make the
crucial stops in the crucial moments, right, you get the
big stop early, you get the lead, but then after
giving up those four straight scoring drives, they have a
couple of crucial stops, including the scoop and score, But
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I think just as important to stop after the scoop
and score. So that was, Yeah, that was a situation.
Like anybody who had any problem with the defense, I
just don't see it. You're playing the best offense in
the league and you go in there and with all
the money on the line, scoop and score to take
the lead, and here, offense, here's the ball with four
minutes left. Like that is a super Bowl defense. To me,
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that's what a super Bowl defense will will do in
a big time playoff game. And I think the tough
thing is you get that two point conversion or you
you know, you complete that, you know that flood concept
on third down and it's we're just having different conversations here,
but absolutely, you're right. It didn't feel like a game
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that truly truly meant something.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And we yes, we're talking that. You know, the Lions
put up thirty one points, but it's not you guys
put up twenty nine and had you gone for the
pat or thing's gone different. Obviously you had to go
for the two. I get that. But if the Pats there,
like you put up a thirty banger too, the offense,
like your offense can put up points.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I do think that the offense put up twenty three.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's always the caveyat.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, you take that regard, you take seven away
from us, and we put up twenty four because Brian
Branch had that Brian Ranch had that pick.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I thought, but I thought he scored and he did.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They reverse the scoop and scored.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, it's remembered, but I will say, yeah, it
did feel like they It did feel like they played.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Both played for something that was an intense game the
entire time.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That was good football. I've never seen pre snap looks
like I did on your defense.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Even though it didn't work out. You know, the thing
before is it like we're gonna fight fire with fire.
We're they're gonna come at us defensively, We're gonna Obviously
that did not pan out. Jared Goff had a hell
of a day. But the argument is maybe it did
pan out because it was only thirty one points and
you got the stops that allowed you the chance to win.
(09:09):
I just don't know with all those weapons how consistently,
how consistently you can stop a team like that. But
what the hell is happening? Like, I know Jared Goff,
it worked, and you're like, oh, his career is resurrected,
But now it's like shifting into something different. Were like,
what the hell? What was the stat you told me
before the show?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
In the last four games, the Lions as a team
have scored eighteen touchdowns and in that amount of time
they have only had sixteen incompletions.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's one of the most bonkers things I've heard in Earth.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Only teams in the only team since the merger to
do something like that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I is there. So what's the flaw with Jared Goff?
What's the thing? Because here's the thing. I'm not going
to sit there and believe that you believe like I
kind of feel the way the Chiefs fans do when
Patrick Mahomes is out there. So going the rest of
the season, what's the what's the thing that's in the
back of your brain that you go if this happens
with Jared Goff, We're in trouble. What's the It's clearly
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not blitzing him. No, because it's not just us. He's
like the best quarterback against the blitz in the whole league.
What is the concern?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's not just Jared Goff. We have at this point
undeniably the best line in the NFL. We have a
top five run blocking grade. We have a top five
pass blocking grade. I think we're the only line in
the league that has that right now.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you remember when that draft happened and everybody wanted
you guys to get Jamar Chase and you and I
were texting and you got Piney Sewell and we were
we were both so pumped for you, Dude, I would
because I thought I thought he'd just be a Hall
of Famer on a garbage team for twenty years. I
didn't know this was happening. I would have been less
pumped if I knew this was about to happen. But man,
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you want to talk about an all time decision. Yep,
that decision is chief amongst the reasons you guys are where, dude.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, we were texting about it. I was on
stage at go bananas. When that draft pick came in,
and I was like doing live. I was not paying
attention to the set. I was paying attention to the draft,
and when that came in, I had to stop and
I had to convince Cincinnati fans why this was so
good for Detroit and they didn't care. Sure, I had
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to dig out of a hole, but I did it
because it was that kind of love for that kind
of pick. But what it was, what I was saying,
is like, yes, our line is great. We do not
have Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes I think plays very much.
So he knows the game obviously, but he plays on instinct,
he plays on athleticism. He can move like Jared Goff
has shown to be a far more analytical quarterback than
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I ever thought. You know, he got such a bad
rep in LA and then he got here the first
year and Detroit was not happy.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I thought he was. I was. I was happy.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I was like, this guy went to the super Bowl.
Matthew Stafford never had won a playoff game. Like this
guy went to the super Bowl. Let's not let's not
burn the house down, okay, And then all of a
sudden he gets that's weird.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's I'm gonna tell you. I don't admire that about you.
I think that's really dumb reasoning. I hate that about
you that you thought that I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Remember what the Lions were before, Like I had to
look on the right side.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It was Matt Stafford's I just this is how anybody
who wonders like the type of people we bring on
the show, but you specifically, if you wonder, is like,
are these people truly die hard fans? Like the fact
that because I don't think you're making stuff up for
show's sake right now, I do think that's real.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I would never sign.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I do think that when you traded a Hall of
Famer for a guy who had gotten worked in the
Super Bowl by Bill Belichick, you were like, it's simple football,
myth brother. One of them has been to the Super
Bowl and one of them hasn't. It wasn't wild, but
I do, unfortunately believe it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It wasn't that Sack.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I was obviously, I was very intrigued by the two
first round draft picks that we were going to get.
I could not believe that that first year the Rams
were so bad and our second draft pick was that high,
like it worked out great. But when Jared Goff came yes,
I was bummed that Matthew Stafford was leaving because he
was built Ford tough, all right, that guy he played hurt.
(13:23):
I mean those soundbites of him when he's all jacked up.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The city loved him absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I was just saying people were ready to do the
nineteen sixties Detroit Riots again when Jared Goff came in,
and I was like, let's let's not strike the matches
quite yet. However, I will say we had I think
that was yeah, that was Campbell's first year and we
brought Anthony Lynn in as our offensive coordinator and that
was not That was no bueno. It did not work
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out well. Mid season we had a party to the
ways and Ben Johnson came up to start calling the plays.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
However, Dan Campbell that year reserved the right.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's like, I'm gonna call these plays, all right, why
don't you take a shot, Like he really tried.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Ben Johnson out. Then that second year, where Ben.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Johnson was the first first year all season coordinator, you
could tell that he and Goff spent the entire offseas
together building an offense and it didn't click.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right away.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It didn't click until the second half of that second season.
All of a sudden, we're putting up points. All of
a sudden, Amen, Rossi, and Brown looks like, how did
you find this guy in the fourth round? So I
think what it comes down to is, yes, the line
is giving him time. They're giving him, they're giving him
a chance to make good decisions while being blitzed. But
I think it is that the offensive coordinator is smart
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enough to have built an offense around the talents of
an individual, and it is allowing that player to shine.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Sure, I'm looking at your guys' schedule because like, I
need to look forward. That's who I am. I have
to look forward. Your next three games are interesting. Our
next three games are interesting. You have you go Titans
and then at Packers, at Texans. Right and late in
the season, you have Bills and Niners, which normally you'd
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be sitting here with like the Ayuke injury, with all
this stuff, you'd be like, well, I don't know that
the Niners are gonna matter. That division is not a
very good football division right now, and who knows if
that'll matter. But these next three weeks are going to
be interesting. You have this opportunity if you put the
Titans down and you go into these two really tough
back to back matchups Packers Texans, which Joe, by the way,
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we won both of those games. But if you if
you get those it gets really really fun for you guys.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But the Vikings having played those guys, I mean, we're
coming in the next three. I think that this week
what an interesting testament to Oh hey, they just posted
the Anthony Edwards justin Jefferson redo of the Moss Garnett picture.
I mean, tonight is the Timberwolves tip off, so it
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is very cool. It is very cool. I don't generally
like stuff like that. Zach, I will throw your whole
house in a great lake. Don't condescend me. But if
you can get this Rams game on a quick turn on,
I think this is people are gonna think I'm an idiot.
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This is probably the biggest game of the season because
you came out and Zach, excuse me, Jay is laughing
at me like I'm an idiot. I'll throw him in
the lake too. Honestly, I'm ready to retire.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This sounds like you're ready to retire a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, and then retire myself. It's gonna be it's gonna
be a double retire side retire situation. Zach.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It sounds like we all need a bath at this point.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Stop stop, stop both of you. Stop it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Let me tell you why I think this RAMS game
is the most important game of the season. Now, there
might be a more important game in the future. But
no one expected this team to be anything. They were
slotted for fifth in or excuse me, fourth in the division.
I think some people probably hadn't fifth. That's how mean
people were beingto this football team.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
There's only four teams.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I understand. That's the joke.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Zach.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh, Zach, I'll set your car on fire.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was just questioning your math skills because I believe
your predict prediction for the game was one hundred and
twenty nine to six based on six safety.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Hey, this is why we don't do review shows. This
is why it's a preview show and not a review show.
But so the team comes out, they go five and zero,
they knock off three teams that everybody think are contenders,
and all of a sudden there's this like, oh my gosh,
who are they? And the interesting thing for me is
I don't think they're surprised by it. I don't think
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the coaching staff and the players are surprised, but I
think they're like, yeah, man, this is who we thought
we were. And one thing I heard about in the
locker room after the game is they were pissed. They
were They genuinely took that game extremely hard, which continues
to tell me that this team. I often think that
players especially really know who they are basically in the preseason,
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right they know they see the guys on the field.
It's the funniest thing about drafting. You know, you get
these guys in you draft a quarterback or receiver and
you're like, I think they're gonna make it, Like they
don't look good now, Like there's this whole narrative. But
I think every player, like two weeks into training camp,
is like that guy doesn't have it. Yep, be never
gonna have it. You can sell it to the fans,
but it's not there. Players know, especially veteran teams. This
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is the fifth oldest team in the NFL, so I
think they knew who they were coming into this year.
And you get this first loss, and it's the first crack,
and you can't go lose this Rams game. You can't
be slat like. This is the sort of game like
if you are who you thought you were and who
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the rest of the world didn't think you were. This
is the game on a short turn on where you
have to go. That sucked. We should have won that game.
We let it slip through our hand. We were sloppy
at times and we had the opportunities and we blew it.
Now we are going to go into a bad RAMS
team and we are going to execute, and we are
going to defeat them, and then we're just gonna keep moving.
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Like to me, locker rooms are weird places, and they
build upon moments. If you go in and you let
this one slip and play bad, it can really seed
some doubt. But you go in and do what you're
supposed to do, and then you have Colts, Jags, Titans. Yeah,
it gets really, really interesting, and our two teams might
be on a collision path towards the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I do think that we are on a collision I mean,
anytime you see a divisional game in the last week
of the season, there are certain butterflies that come with
it to any football fan, like that could be.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
For the division.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I am not surprised at all that your locker room
was upset after that loss.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The way that both teams.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Played, like I said earlier, like they were playing for something,
and when you don't get the thing that you've worked
so hard for, yeah, you're gonna be upset. I agree
with you also that you gotta win this uh, this
RAMS game. You've got to win this RAMS game based
on I think to get.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Not not not buy back in.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't know what the phrase would be, but like
just to get that motor going back in the right direction.
I will also, as a Lions fan, just let you
know that whoever the Lions play the next week, that
team has lost because they are And this is what
analysts say from the other the other markets, Arizona, even
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Tampa Bay, who beat us Lions, beats you up.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You're sore and you're on a short week.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I yeah, they're unlike the other football teams who hit
you when you play against what they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Hey, sorry, you've seen Dan Campbell.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You've smelled his chew from watching a press conference through
your internet connection. They different, all right, this team's all
about grit mc DC baby, But I do I do
think that this short week is not great on That's
the only thing I don't like that you guys are away.
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I will say this far and away. Minnesota is my
second favorite team in the division. Oh cool, So I'm
pulling for you guys on Thursday, I'm pulling for.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I'm not pulling for you on Sunday at all. And also,
let me tell you something that's cool.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Why would you're probably still bitter about last night.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's not even just about being bitter. I'm just not
gonna pull for the other team that's tied with us
in the division. I want you to drop a big Well,
you're not.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Tied in the division. We are first in the division
based on statistics.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I want you to drop a big, rotten performance against
the Titans. And I want you to be like, did
we lose to Mason Rudolph. I didn't know he was
in the league. That's what i'd like. Let me and
the reason that you're getting a little attitude from me
right here is I'm you know, I want I've pulled
up our schedules, what we're doing the show, and that
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put me on ESPN dot com, my former haunt, and
I sure shouldn't read stuff on ESPN dot com my
former haunt. And I'm very angry, but like I got,
here's the thing, why would you ever read a power rankings? Ever?
They're only power rankings are only built so that people
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have something like that, talking heads have something to talk about.
I'm not an idiot, but like I was, like, Wow,
Zach's babbling on about caring about us and that we're
the second team. He's over there lying. Why don't I
check into where the U is lying? Don't you're fired?
You're fired? Jay? Jay? Can we cut his? Uh? Can we?
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Can we cut him from his payroll of zero dollars?
Zero dollars strike season? So the the way they did
it this week they did the power rankings and then
they listed who's the young riser on your team? Who's
the young star on the rise? Who's the young riser? Uh?
So the Detroit Lions are number two. Who do you
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think the young riser on your team is? Who have
they penned as the young riser?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I would say Brian Branch? But does it happen?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's Brian Branch? Correct, it is Brian Branch. Now here's
my problem. Where do you think the Minnesota Vikings Land.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
After that game.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, I would say, and I'm not looking, I would
say top twelve.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Zach, I am going to jay, I'm never doing a
review show ever again. Top twelve, our one losses to
the number two team. We're six. I'm pissed about six.
You somehow made me more angry then, And maybe that's
a friendship thing. Maybe you're like, I'm gonna pull say
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out of this moment he's in where he's over spiraling
on his side monitor about some rankings that don't matter.
Maybe if I say something insane like top twelve, he'll
respond to that, and then that'll he'll be like, oh,
now I'm back in reality. We're six, and oh, by
the way, we beat the number seven team and the
number five team and our only losses to the number
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two team. So yeah, it totally makes sense that the
four and two Baltimore Ravens and the five and two
Packers should be above us. Great call.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know that the Packers should be.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The Baltimore Ravens are dismantling people of late, Like, I
don't know, man, do.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You think Derrick Henry rushes for two thousand yards? My
brother Greg has heavily invested in him getting two thousand
yards because, as he framed in a text or phrased
in a text, I am preparing for the inevitable heartbreak
of being a Minnesota Vikings fans by putting a lot
of hope. He's cushioning by putting a lot of hope
in Derrick Henry getting a second two thousand yard season.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The only I mean, it's certainly a possibility. I think
the fact that Lamar Jackson is so good at running
is going to keep him about two to three hundred
yards away from it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
How do you if you are like, how does it
get worse? If you're Tennessee right now? Right Like, here's
the thing. I'm Tennessee two years from now might be
in the Super Bowl, cause so.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Give Hellman's Mayo the naming rights to their stadium.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You could always you never know what a team's rebuild is.
But in this moment, like they they could have made
every right decision and two years from now we'll be
like wow. But right now, you know, AJ Brown has
been amazing in Philadelphia over the last couple of years.
Derrick Henry, Whoeverbody's like, yeah, I'm not a big deal.
He's old might go for two thousand if Mike Brable
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takes the Browns starting quarterback job and leads them to
the playoffs. Like, I don't know how it gets worse,
but it's not. People are thriving outside their former relationship
when it comes to the Texans, as the youngsters say,
do the youngsters stay thriving outside your former relationship? No?
I just like saying as the youngsters.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I don't like they say thriving anymore. However, I did
go see my brother last night with my daughters and Emily,
and my brother dyed my daughter's hair red and her
friend saw the hair and called my brother zesty, Oh zesty,
which I guess is a big compliment.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Oh he's got like I hadn't heard it before.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
He gallot zi, he's got a little Zach galloz to him.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
My brother said it sounds like a very old dressing
and your refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And I was like, well, yeah, gold, do you have
any of these zesty chips? Yeah, it sounds like a
flavor of ruffles. I don't like it, but I do
believe it's important. It's the tough thing Zach about getting
older as an artist, is I think. If you don't
spend time around young people, you age out of relevancy
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and an understanding.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Of the world.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But the older you get, the harder it is to
be like, hey, twenty year olds, what do you think
of life? You just there's just that gap is making
you weirder when you're like, I just want to know
what a twenty three year old guy thinks of the world.
And that's not a good look. As you age beyond forty.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Here's what aging artists have to do. As you put it,
you have to be able to You have to be
able to understand the language while refusing to speak it.
You have to be able to go to Italy and
know they're talking about you in Italian, but just act
like you only speak English.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Sure you can't, Yeah you don't. You don't want to
be the guy at the Mexican restaurant saying I like facias.
You can't do that. You just have to ask for
the fajidas and move on.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And yeah, you don't want to be you don't want
to be a middle aged man going up be like,
look at that gyat which I guess is a big booty.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I hate that. I want the show to be over, Jay,
I hate that more than I've hated anything that we've
done in multiple years on this program.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Well, the Vikings have a wonderfold yet, and I'm so
glad the Lions got to put their foot in net.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Zach, Zach, I I could not have enjoyed this more
and less at the same time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's what I like, That's where I like to live.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Let me tell you something. I want nothing more than
us to be playing each other in the final week
of the season with the number one seed on the line.
I know that's a big dream and a big wish
and it's a long way to get there, but God damn,
I want nothing more than that.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And then you just got to work your way from
that number six power ranking.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Jake, could you just cut the show? I just keep
trying to get out, and he just keeps saying, this
is why we don't do these, ladies and gentlemen, for
Jay Nelson, for the Vikings Entertainment Network, and certainly not
for Zach Martina.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Come to laugh Camp.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, he's at laugh Camp. Go see him there this weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Bye, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Thanks again to Zach Martina for joining the show, and
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another episode of the Tailgate. It's a short week. Your
Vikings are playing the Rams on Thursday night, right after
a difficult loss to the Lions. We decided to instead
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of chasing down a Rams fan on short notice, we
would do a follow up episode to probably the biggest
and best game in the NFL so far this year
and look forward as well. We brought Zach Martina back
to break down the thirty one to twenty nine Lions
win and talk about a little bit of stuff in
the future. I think you guys are gonna love it,
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and hey, please support Zach go see him do some
live stand up this weekend Friday October twenty fifth and
Saturday October twenty sixth, at the Laugh Camp Comedy Bar
in Saint Paul, Minnesota. Tickets are available now at Zachmartine
dot com. Enjoy the episode Everybody and the Game. This week,
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the Rocket Ricketts, I mean your Minnesota Vikings have lost
their first game of the year against what some people
believe to be the best team in the NFC, perhaps
the best team in the NFL. We brought Zach Martinez back,
(01:52):
no pomp, no circumstance on the introduction here, just Zach
is back. His team won. I'm bitter and frustrated. Zach,
let me ask you.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I am not bitter and frustrated.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That's you know, That's not what I was going to
ask you. You know, I was going to ask you
something different, and I was leaving a space in there
due to my anger.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Well, okay, I'm sorry. I just I misread that. I apologize.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, totally, you totally misread it. So my There's been
kind of two schools of thought about the Vikings loss
to the Lions on Sunday. One is, hey, we went
toe to toe with the one of the best teams
in the NFL, probably the best team in the NFC.
We were right there till the end. We almost had
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it right. And then the other school of thought is
it was closer than it seemed. If we don't get
that scoop and score it's they might push it out
like it really wasn't as competitive as the tightly contested
end made it seem as a lion's feil. And on
the winning side, how did you see it? How did
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you receive the Vikings performance?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I saw it more as the former. That was the
entire game. I mean, first of all, credit to Vikings fans.
I'm watching at home, and that stadium was insane. That
stadium was so insane at the beginning of the game
that I mean I looked at my wife and I
was like, this is gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
It was. I mean, you could feel it. I could
feel it in Michigan. It was crazy. So credit to
the Vikings fans. They came out cool.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Thank you. I love your compliment on our stadium. Guy,
I'm in a bad mood. I'm in such a bad mood.
I'm in such a bad it's.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
The state of the art. You guys made a good investment.
You guys made a good investment in that state.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I know what you're doing. Everybody thinks Oh, that is
very nice of Zact, But I know what you're doing.
Just make your damn point. Quit buttering me up with golf.
Dam that sure is a loud stadium. You got there, Now,
let me cut you down. Would you like to Would
you like to talk about the juicy lucies in town?
Speaker 3 (03:56):
No, I'm still recovering from the one I had last man.
But what I will say is that thing you guys
do before the game, with like this whole clappy thing,
I will that's cool.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I will drive to Michigan and throw you in a
great lake.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
My choice, though, I get to choose the lake. I
would say that it was the The game was very,
very entertaining. I was never I was never ever comfortable
the entire game. That seemed like two teams that were
playing for something that wasn't, in my opinion, one team
that was far and away better than the other team.
(04:37):
I know you mentioned that scoop and score and things change.
But on the flip side, you know, yes, the call
was right on the Brian Branch stripsack. I'm sorry, the
strip and run into the end zone. Yes he was out,
but they're like, oh, it was closer than it was.
The ball was moving, when was it moving? Like that
could have gone a different way as well, and then
it's a then it's a total blowout.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
But I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I think it was just I think it was a
very competitive game. I was not comfortable even. I mean
when they at that the end of the game, when
they're like, no, we're gonna have one second on the clock. Still,
I was like I was at that Thursday night game
where Aaron Rodgers through the Hail Mary for Green Bay
and beat the Lions like a sixty five yard thing
with one second left. And I mean there is a
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little bit of PTSD from that. So I was not
comfortable until that game.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Read Zeros, I think you said it right. It felt
like two teams playing for something. And this has been
my talking point, like everybody's really jacked about this defense,
and I am as well. Here's ing. I'm a guy
who knows nothing about anything, but if you look globally
at the NFL, dominant defenses are never truly dominant anymore.
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That's not how the league works. Once you get to
the playoffs, if you are gonna win three or four
games against great football teams, somebody's gonna put a thirty,
thirty five, thirty eight on you. The Cleveland Browns, they
go to the playoffs last year as this vaunted unreal
defense and CJ. Stroud throddles them. If you think of
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the teams that are in the upper crest of the league, right,
you think about I mean, even though the Texans lost
to the Green Bay Packers, but you think about the Texans.
You think about the Chiefs, right, you think about the Bills,
You think about the Lions, the Niners who are down
this year. But you think about the Eagles, you think
about the Packers. These are all teams that on any
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given week, they have a lot of weapons and they
can put points up. I'm not gonna say they're gonna
do it constantly, but the idea that you're gonna walk
into the NFL playoffs and hold three or four of
the best teams in the NFL under twenty four points
is complete and utter nonsense. And so to me, what
a great defense is is it's a defense that holds
teams in the regular season most of the time, has
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its lapses. But then when you get in one of
those situations where you're gonna give up a thirty plus,
like the Vikings did on Sunday. Can they make the
crucial stops in the crucial moments, right, you get the
big stop early, you get the lead, but then after
giving up those four straight scoring drives, they have a
couple of crucial stops, including the scoop and score, But
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I think just as important to stop after the scoop
and score. So that was, Yeah, that was a situation.
Like anybody who had any problem with the defense, I
just don't see it. You're playing the best offense in
the league and you go in there and with all
the money on the line, scoop and score to take
the lead, and here, offense, here's the ball with four
minutes left. Like that is a super Bowl defense. To me,
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that's what a super Bowl defense will will do in
a big time playoff game. And I think the tough
thing is you get that two point conversion or you
you know, you complete that, you know that flood concept
on third down and it's we're just having different conversations here,
but absolutely, you're right. It didn't feel like a game
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that truly truly meant something.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And we yes, we're talking that. You know, the Lions
put up thirty one points, but it's not you guys
put up twenty nine and had you gone for the
pat or thing's gone different. Obviously you had to go
for the two. I get that. But if the Pats there,
like you put up a thirty banger too, the offense,
like your offense can put up points.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
I do think that the offense put up twenty three.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
That's always the caveyat.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I mean, you take that regard, you take seven away
from us, and we put up twenty four because Brian
Branch had that Brian Ranch had that pick.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I thought, but I thought he scored and he did.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
They reverse the scoop and scored.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, it's remembered, but I will say, yeah, it
did feel like they It did feel like they played.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Both played for something that was an intense game the
entire time.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
That was good football. I've never seen pre snap looks
like I did on your defense.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Even though it didn't work out. You know, the thing
before is it like we're gonna fight fire with fire.
We're they're gonna come at us defensively, We're gonna Obviously
that did not pan out. Jared Goff had a hell
of a day. But the argument is maybe it did
pan out because it was only thirty one points and
you got the stops that allowed you the chance to win.
(09:09):
I just don't know with all those weapons how consistently,
how consistently you can stop a team like that. But
what the hell is happening? Like, I know Jared Goff,
it worked, and you're like, oh, his career is resurrected,
But now it's like shifting into something different. Were like,
what the hell? What was the stat you told me
before the show?
Speaker 3 (09:29):
In the last four games, the Lions as a team
have scored eighteen touchdowns and in that amount of time
they have only had sixteen incompletions.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's one of the most bonkers things I've heard in Earth.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Only teams in the only team since the merger to
do something like that.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Yeah, I is there. So what's the flaw with Jared Goff?
What's the thing? Because here's the thing. I'm not going
to sit there and believe that you believe like I
kind of feel the way the Chiefs fans do when
Patrick Mahomes is out there. So going the rest of
the season, what's the what's the thing that's in the
back of your brain that you go if this happens
with Jared Goff, We're in trouble. What's the It's clearly
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not blitzing him. No, because it's not just us. He's
like the best quarterback against the blitz in the whole league.
What is the concern?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
It's not just Jared Goff. We have at this point
undeniably the best line in the NFL. We have a
top five run blocking grade. We have a top five
pass blocking grade. I think we're the only line in
the league that has that right now.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you remember when that draft happened and everybody wanted
you guys to get Jamar Chase and you and I
were texting and you got Piney Sewell and we were
we were both so pumped for you, Dude, I would
because I thought I thought he'd just be a Hall
of Famer on a garbage team for twenty years. I
didn't know this was happening. I would have been less
pumped if I knew this was about to happen. But man,
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you want to talk about an all time decision. Yep,
that decision is chief amongst the reasons you guys are where, dude.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, we were texting about it. I was on
stage at go bananas. When that draft pick came in,
and I was like doing live. I was not paying
attention to the set. I was paying attention to the draft,
and when that came in, I had to stop and
I had to convince Cincinnati fans why this was so
good for Detroit and they didn't care. Sure, I had
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to dig out of a hole, but I did it
because it was that kind of love for that kind
of pick. But what it was, what I was saying,
is like, yes, our line is great. We do not
have Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes I think plays very much.
So he knows the game obviously, but he plays on instinct,
he plays on athleticism. He can move like Jared Goff
has shown to be a far more analytical quarterback than
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I ever thought. You know, he got such a bad
rep in LA and then he got here the first
year and Detroit was not happy.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
I thought he was. I was. I was happy.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
I was like, this guy went to the super Bowl.
Matthew Stafford never had won a playoff game. Like this
guy went to the super Bowl. Let's not let's not
burn the house down, okay, And then all of a
sudden he gets that's weird.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
That's I'm gonna tell you. I don't admire that about you.
I think that's really dumb reasoning. I hate that about
you that you thought that I don't.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Remember what the Lions were before, Like I had to
look on the right side.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
It was Matt Stafford's I just this is how anybody
who wonders like the type of people we bring on
the show, but you specifically, if you wonder, is like,
are these people truly die hard fans? Like the fact
that because I don't think you're making stuff up for
show's sake right now, I do think that's real.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
I would never sign.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
I do think that when you traded a Hall of
Famer for a guy who had gotten worked in the
Super Bowl by Bill Belichick, you were like, it's simple football,
myth brother. One of them has been to the Super
Bowl and one of them hasn't. It wasn't wild, but
I do, unfortunately believe it.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
It wasn't that Sack.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I was obviously, I was very intrigued by the two
first round draft picks that we were going to get.
I could not believe that that first year the Rams
were so bad and our second draft pick was that high,
like it worked out great. But when Jared Goff came yes,
I was bummed that Matthew Stafford was leaving because he
was built Ford tough, all right, that guy he played hurt.
(13:23):
I mean those soundbites of him when he's all jacked up.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
The city loved him absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I was just saying people were ready to do the
nineteen sixties Detroit Riots again when Jared Goff came in,
and I was like, let's let's not strike the matches
quite yet. However, I will say we had I think
that was yeah, that was Campbell's first year and we
brought Anthony Lynn in as our offensive coordinator and that
was not That was no bueno. It did not work
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out well. Mid season we had a party to the
ways and Ben Johnson came up to start calling the plays.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
However, Dan Campbell that year reserved the right.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
He's like, I'm gonna call these plays, all right, why
don't you take a shot, Like he really tried.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Ben Johnson out. Then that second year, where Ben.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Johnson was the first first year all season coordinator, you
could tell that he and Goff spent the entire offseas
together building an offense and it didn't click.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Right away.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
It didn't click until the second half of that second season.
All of a sudden, we're putting up points. All of
a sudden, Amen, Rossi, and Brown looks like, how did
you find this guy in the fourth round? So I
think what it comes down to is, yes, the line
is giving him time. They're giving him, they're giving him
a chance to make good decisions while being blitzed. But
I think it is that the offensive coordinator is smart
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enough to have built an offense around the talents of
an individual, and it is allowing that player to shine.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Sure, I'm looking at your guys' schedule because like, I
need to look forward. That's who I am. I have
to look forward. Your next three games are interesting. Our
next three games are interesting. You have you go Titans
and then at Packers, at Texans. Right and late in
the season, you have Bills and Niners, which normally you'd
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be sitting here with like the Ayuke injury, with all
this stuff, you'd be like, well, I don't know that
the Niners are gonna matter. That division is not a
very good football division right now, and who knows if
that'll matter. But these next three weeks are going to
be interesting. You have this opportunity if you put the
Titans down and you go into these two really tough
back to back matchups Packers Texans, which Joe, by the way,
(15:29):
we won both of those games. But if you if
you get those it gets really really fun for you guys.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
But the Vikings having played those guys, I mean, we're
coming in the next three. I think that this week
what an interesting testament to Oh hey, they just posted
the Anthony Edwards justin Jefferson redo of the Moss Garnett picture.
I mean, tonight is the Timberwolves tip off, so it
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is very cool. It is very cool. I don't generally
like stuff like that. Zach, I will throw your whole
house in a great lake. Don't condescend me. But if
you can get this Rams game on a quick turn on,
I think this is people are gonna think I'm an idiot.
(16:20):
This is probably the biggest game of the season because
you came out and Zach, excuse me, Jay is laughing
at me like I'm an idiot. I'll throw him in
the lake too. Honestly, I'm ready to retire.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
This sounds like you're ready to retire a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Yeah, and then retire myself. It's gonna be it's gonna
be a double retire side retire situation. Zach.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
It sounds like we all need a bath at this point.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Stop stop, stop both of you. Stop it.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Let me tell you why I think this RAMS game
is the most important game of the season. Now, there
might be a more important game in the future. But
no one expected this team to be anything. They were
slotted for fifth in or excuse me, fourth in the division.
I think some people probably hadn't fifth. That's how mean
people were beingto this football team.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
There's only four teams.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I understand. That's the joke.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Zach.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh, Zach, I'll set your car on fire.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I was just questioning your math skills because I believe
your predict prediction for the game was one hundred and
twenty nine to six based on six safety.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Hey, this is why we don't do review shows. This
is why it's a preview show and not a review show.
But so the team comes out, they go five and zero,
they knock off three teams that everybody think are contenders,
and all of a sudden there's this like, oh my gosh,
who are they? And the interesting thing for me is
I don't think they're surprised by it. I don't think
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the coaching staff and the players are surprised, but I
think they're like, yeah, man, this is who we thought
we were. And one thing I heard about in the
locker room after the game is they were pissed. They
were They genuinely took that game extremely hard, which continues
to tell me that this team. I often think that
players especially really know who they are basically in the preseason,
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right they know they see the guys on the field.
It's the funniest thing about drafting. You know, you get
these guys in you draft a quarterback or receiver and
you're like, I think they're gonna make it, Like they
don't look good now, Like there's this whole narrative. But
I think every player, like two weeks into training camp,
is like that guy doesn't have it. Yep, be never
gonna have it. You can sell it to the fans,
but it's not there. Players know, especially veteran teams. This
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is the fifth oldest team in the NFL, so I
think they knew who they were coming into this year.
And you get this first loss, and it's the first crack,
and you can't go lose this Rams game. You can't
be slat like. This is the sort of game like
if you are who you thought you were and who
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the rest of the world didn't think you were. This
is the game on a short turn on where you
have to go. That sucked. We should have won that game.
We let it slip through our hand. We were sloppy
at times and we had the opportunities and we blew it.
Now we are going to go into a bad RAMS
team and we are going to execute, and we are
going to defeat them, and then we're just gonna keep moving.
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Like to me, locker rooms are weird places, and they
build upon moments. If you go in and you let
this one slip and play bad, it can really seed
some doubt. But you go in and do what you're
supposed to do, and then you have Colts, Jags, Titans. Yeah,
it gets really, really interesting, and our two teams might
be on a collision path towards the end of the year.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
I do think that we are on a collision I mean,
anytime you see a divisional game in the last week
of the season, there are certain butterflies that come with
it to any football fan, like that could be.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
For the division.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
I am not surprised at all that your locker room
was upset after that loss.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The way that both teams.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Played, like I said earlier, like they were playing for something,
and when you don't get the thing that you've worked
so hard for, yeah, you're gonna be upset. I agree
with you also that you gotta win this uh, this
RAMS game. You've got to win this RAMS game based
on I think to get.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Not not not buy back in.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't know what the phrase would be, but like
just to get that motor going back in the right direction.
I will also, as a Lions fan, just let you
know that whoever the Lions play the next week, that
team has lost because they are And this is what
analysts say from the other the other markets, Arizona, even
(20:40):
Tampa Bay, who beat us Lions, beats you up.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
You're sore and you're on a short week.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I yeah, they're unlike the other football teams who hit
you when you play against what they don't.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Hey, sorry, you've seen Dan Campbell.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
You've smelled his chew from watching a press conference through
your internet connection. They different, all right, this team's all
about grit mc DC baby, But I do I do
think that this short week is not great on That's
the only thing I don't like that you guys are away.
(21:15):
I will say this far and away. Minnesota is my
second favorite team in the division. Oh cool, So I'm
pulling for you guys on Thursday, I'm pulling for.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I'm not pulling for you on Sunday at all. And also,
let me tell you something that's cool.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Why would you're probably still bitter about last night.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
It's not even just about being bitter. I'm just not
gonna pull for the other team that's tied with us
in the division. I want you to drop a big Well,
you're not.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Tied in the division. We are first in the division
based on statistics.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I want you to drop a big, rotten performance against
the Titans. And I want you to be like, did
we lose to Mason Rudolph. I didn't know he was
in the league. That's what i'd like. Let me and
the reason that you're getting a little attitude from me
right here is I'm you know, I want I've pulled
up our schedules, what we're doing the show, and that
(22:03):
put me on ESPN dot com, my former haunt, and
I sure shouldn't read stuff on ESPN dot com my
former haunt. And I'm very angry, but like I got,
here's the thing, why would you ever read a power rankings? Ever?
They're only power rankings are only built so that people
(22:26):
have something like that, talking heads have something to talk about.
I'm not an idiot, but like I was, like, Wow,
Zach's babbling on about caring about us and that we're
the second team. He's over there lying. Why don't I
check into where the U is lying? Don't you're fired?
You're fired? Jay? Jay? Can we cut his? Uh? Can we?
(22:47):
Can we cut him from his payroll of zero dollars?
Zero dollars strike season? So the the way they did
it this week they did the power rankings and then
they listed who's the young riser on your team? Who's
the young star on the rise? Who's the young riser? Uh?
So the Detroit Lions are number two. Who do you
(23:10):
think the young riser on your team is? Who have
they penned as the young riser?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I would say Brian Branch? But does it happen?
Speaker 1 (23:19):
It's Brian Branch? Correct, it is Brian Branch. Now here's
my problem. Where do you think the Minnesota Vikings Land.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
After that game.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, I would say, and I'm not looking, I would
say top twelve.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Zach, I am going to jay, I'm never doing a
review show ever again. Top twelve, our one losses to
the number two team. We're six. I'm pissed about six.
You somehow made me more angry then, And maybe that's
a friendship thing. Maybe you're like, I'm gonna pull say
(23:55):
out of this moment he's in where he's over spiraling
on his side monitor about some rankings that don't matter.
Maybe if I say something insane like top twelve, he'll
respond to that, and then that'll he'll be like, oh,
now I'm back in reality. We're six, and oh, by
the way, we beat the number seven team and the
number five team and our only losses to the number
(24:18):
two team. So yeah, it totally makes sense that the
four and two Baltimore Ravens and the five and two
Packers should be above us. Great call.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I don't know that the Packers should be.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The Baltimore Ravens are dismantling people of late, Like, I
don't know, man, do.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
You think Derrick Henry rushes for two thousand yards? My
brother Greg has heavily invested in him getting two thousand
yards because, as he framed in a text or phrased
in a text, I am preparing for the inevitable heartbreak
of being a Minnesota Vikings fans by putting a lot
of hope. He's cushioning by putting a lot of hope
in Derrick Henry getting a second two thousand yard season.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
The only I mean, it's certainly a possibility. I think
the fact that Lamar Jackson is so good at running
is going to keep him about two to three hundred
yards away from it.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
How do you if you are like, how does it
get worse? If you're Tennessee right now? Right Like, here's
the thing. I'm Tennessee two years from now might be
in the Super Bowl, cause so.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Give Hellman's Mayo the naming rights to their stadium.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You could always you never know what a team's rebuild is.
But in this moment, like they they could have made
every right decision and two years from now we'll be
like wow. But right now, you know, AJ Brown has
been amazing in Philadelphia over the last couple of years.
Derrick Henry, Whoeverbody's like, yeah, I'm not a big deal.
He's old might go for two thousand if Mike Brable
(25:46):
takes the Browns starting quarterback job and leads them to
the playoffs. Like, I don't know how it gets worse,
but it's not. People are thriving outside their former relationship
when it comes to the Texans, as the youngsters say,
do the youngsters stay thriving outside your former relationship? No?
I just like saying as the youngsters.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I don't like they say thriving anymore. However, I did
go see my brother last night with my daughters and Emily,
and my brother dyed my daughter's hair red and her
friend saw the hair and called my brother zesty, Oh zesty,
which I guess is a big compliment.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Oh he's got like I hadn't heard it before.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
He gallot zi, he's got a little Zach galloz to him.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
My brother said it sounds like a very old dressing
and your refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
And I was like, well, yeah, gold, do you have
any of these zesty chips? Yeah, it sounds like a
flavor of ruffles. I don't like it, but I do
believe it's important. It's the tough thing Zach about getting
older as an artist, is I think. If you don't
spend time around young people, you age out of relevancy
(26:53):
and an understanding.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Of the world.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
But the older you get, the harder it is to
be like, hey, twenty year olds, what do you think
of life? You just there's just that gap is making
you weirder when you're like, I just want to know
what a twenty three year old guy thinks of the world.
And that's not a good look. As you age beyond forty.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Here's what aging artists have to do. As you put it,
you have to be able to You have to be
able to understand the language while refusing to speak it.
You have to be able to go to Italy and
know they're talking about you in Italian, but just act
like you only speak English.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Sure you can't, Yeah you don't. You don't want to
be the guy at the Mexican restaurant saying I like facias.
You can't do that. You just have to ask for
the fajidas and move on.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
And yeah, you don't want to be you don't want
to be a middle aged man going up be like,
look at that gyat which I guess is a big booty.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I hate that. I want the show to be over, Jay,
I hate that more than I've hated anything that we've
done in multiple years on this program.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Well, the Vikings have a wonderfold yet, and I'm so
glad the Lions got to put their foot in net.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Zach, Zach, I I could not have enjoyed this more
and less at the same time.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's what I like, That's where I like to live.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
Let me tell you something. I want nothing more than
us to be playing each other in the final week
of the season with the number one seed on the line.
I know that's a big dream and a big wish
and it's a long way to get there, but God damn,
I want nothing more than that.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And then you just got to work your way from
that number six power ranking.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Jake, could you just cut the show? I just keep
trying to get out, and he just keeps saying, this
is why we don't do these, ladies and gentlemen, for
Jay Nelson, for the Vikings Entertainment Network, and certainly not
for Zach Martina.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Come to laugh Camp.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, he's at laugh Camp. Go see him there this weekend.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Bye, guys.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Thanks again to Zach Martina for joining the show, and
thank you for listening to our podcast feed. Hey, well
you're here, why don't you give us a like and
a subscribe, maybe leave a review. Those things help us.
Also a huge shout out to Ticketmaster, the official ticket
marketplace of the Minnesota Vikings, for helping make this show happen.
Enjoy the game, and we will see you all again
(29:18):
next week.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Hey Vikings fans, Ben Lever here, I'm so excited to
be a new Lifetime member, and so are my kids.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
They love the tennis, the pick a ball, the basketball,
and of course the yummy cafe.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Check them out at Lifetime dot life to find a
club nearest you.
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