December 1, 2024 • 44 mins
Mikki is joined again by astrologist- Abby Lewtas from Stars By Abby. Abby goes into details about wtf it means now that Pluto has gone into Aquarius, what’s been going on with the planets recently that’s been making everyone collectively feel…fkn unsettled, what to expect and look forward to in 2025 and more. It is a very exciting time as far as Astrology is concerned and what that means for us not only individually but also collectively.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apogee Production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
People are talking to me and they are not physically
in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't
call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's try
to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,
just bring it on.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Crazy Crazy Crazy the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, Gordeous Legends,
and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
This week, we've got another Village Crazy Lady who has
come back to chat with us all things astrology. Abby
Lutus stars by Abby on Instagram. She has come on
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before at the beginning of the year, chatting about, you know,
what the planets are doing this year and what we
can be prepared for, and so I think it makes
a lot of sense to get her on back now one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
To sort of refresh what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Has been happening recently, because I think everybody's been going
I don't know what the planets are doing, but I
sure should know that they're doing something. And I know
anyone who follows astrology kind of has an idea that
there's a lot of shit going on.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So I think it'd be so good to just sort
of chat about it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
So we're kind of aware we're going to talk about
what's going to be what the planets and stuff, you know,
what everything's fucking doing for the rest of the year,
and then also have a little chat about what's kind
of going to be happening in twenty twenty five. So Abby,
thank you so much for joining me again.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, thank you so much. Midiki is so good to
be here. I love talking astrology so well.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Can you please, firstly, what has been going on recently,
like over the last I don't know, a couple of
months or I mean you would know what the planets
are doing and why people are feeling probably like space
cadets and having identity crisises and all sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, so one of the big shifts that has happened,
and look this is we have moved through a little
bit of this energy before, but Pluto has moved into Aquarius.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Now. Over the last two.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Or three years, Pluto has been moving back and forward,
finishing up its journey in Capricorn, finally moving into Aquarius.
I say it goes back and forward, is it because
it goes into retrograde it goes back into Capricorn, and
then it goes forward into Aquarius. But the thing that's
different about this time is that it's actually not going
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back into Capricorn again in our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It will at some point.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
In like, you know, hundreds of years, but in our lifetime, no,
it's not going back into Capricorn. So it's really about
a completion of a cycle. And so depending on where
this is playing out in your charts, it's tying off
We have been tying off ends, closing a chapter, and
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now we're stepping.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Into the new chapter of.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The next What the next sort of twenty years is
going to have and look like for.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Us as someone who like you know, isn't an astrologist,
but is like you know, doing collective healings every single
week and tuning into that energy. It's just so it
will never stop being interesting to me. How like in alignment,
that whole concept is with sort of what's been coming
through lately. It's kind of just like this moving through
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just like the old shit. It's like you need to
shed to what do they say to me the other day,
They're like to grow, You also need to like move
through things as well, to like shed things and move
into newness. Like you know, if you're a fucking lizard
and you're growing into a new body, you also have
to shed your old skin. And that kind of has
sort of felt like the energy like people have been
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sort of moving through maybe this like murkiness, this hardness,
this confusion was a feeling that was coming up a
lot because it just sort of felt like people were
sort of in this limbo of like from all to new.
Do you think that makes sort of sense?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, I think there is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
What I'm talking is about the Pluto moving into Aquarius.
That's one small I mean, it's a big change, but
over the next sort of two years, which I kind
of almost see twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six,
is like it's a very blended kind of energy. But
not only and I don't want to skip ahead too much,
but not only is Pluto having the shift which it's
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just had, but Neptune, Uranus, and Satin they're also shifting signs.
The four most outer planets are moving next year and
will be complete in twenty twenty six. So not only
is Pluto doing this, but the other outer planets, which
the outer planets are really about generational and social change
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and may not necessarily impact us as much on a
social level. Again, it depends on like an INDIVI at
your level, depending on where it is in our chart.
So you know that confusion that you're talking about Neptune is.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
When I think about confusion, I think about.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Neptune, and Neptune's kind of at the very end of
its cycle, and it's next year and into twenty twenty six,
it's going to be starting afresh, and so I think
that might be where all of.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That is coming into.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But I absolutely hear you, like, you can't take if
you're wanting to move to the next level or in
the next chapter, you can't take that old version of
yourself with you. You have to let go of that so
that you can step into the new version of yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Actually, I just remember the term that they were giving
it was growing pains, kind of like there's a difference
between discomfort feeling like, you know, a discomfort in your
body and with the experience, because I think they're like,
there's a difference between feeling uncomfortable about something and being
like a big fuck know in your body, And sometimes
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we do need to feel uncomfortable, because like that's where
change happens.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, it's like starting a.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
New job, like the first day of a new school
or a new job, or doing something that you've never
done before.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It feels uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It doesn't feel like a fuck no, but it feels uncomfortable,
which is a nice feeling. And so sometimes I think
we can get confused, I think between the two when
we're in that like really discomfort feeling, which I think
by the sound of you know everything, that all the
changes that are sort of happening, those big changes, that's
probably what it might feel like in our bodies or
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in our world.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think that's spot on.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I think I heard a life coach once say
that the emotions.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That we have in our life, they are going to.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Be like fifty to fifty, right, So we're always going
to experience fifty percent positive emotions and fifty percent negative
of emotions. So it's really about learning to get better
at managing the challenging or negative emotions or challenging times.
So they're always going to come up. You know, we're
never going to we're never going.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
To complete out that assignment. That's why we're here. On Earth,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So okay, So, so Pluto has officially moved into Aquarius.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
When did that actually happen?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
That happened back on the twentieth of November.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
We had it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Also, we did have a little bit of Pluto in
Aquarius at the beginning of the year. So Pluto was
in Aquarius sort of from January through to about.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I think it was about June. I'd have to go back,
or actually September.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So we've already experienced like this before, and then again
in twenty twenty three there was a short stint where
Pluto was in Aquarius. So you can kind of go
back to those dates and sort of I mean, might
not be for everyone, but you can be like, oh,
what were the little new snippets of change coming into
(08:01):
my life? And maybe this is that might give the
one idea of what is to come with.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
This transit over the next twenty years.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
How about on a more collective level, can you see
what happened the last time it sort of moved into
things and things that happened.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, absolutely, So the last time that happened was like
back in the eighteen hundreds or way back in the
seventeen or eighteen hundreds or something, but it was when
the revolutions happened. And so essentially the way that I
talk about this transit in general is Capricorn is a
sign of structure and discipline. Government falls in here, and
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Pluto is the kind of like transforming and power.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Essentially.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Aquarius, on the other hand, is the plant is the
sign of the people, the collective, the greater whole. And
so if you sort of merge those energies of Pluto,
big power and essentially Pluto's the god of the underworld,
it's here to like pull up all the I think
you used this term last time making it was that
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all the soil, the stuff at the bottom, and turn
up to see and expose what is.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
In the depths or the things that we can't see.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So I think there are is going to be like more,
you know, more more focus on our voice, the people,
the collective, and it's going to start to be punching
through and there's this shift that's going to start happening.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
That's what That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
As an Aquarius that excites the shit out of me
because that word revolution, I can't even remember where I've
used it before, but I like there's something about especially
like this the end of this year. I think, like
the end of this year I'm saying, and then moving
into twenty twenty five, that new energy, it has such
a revolution energy to it, Like I think some really
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big fucking shit is going to be happening. And I
haven't really had a chance to fully sit down and
like write down everything, but I think, like where exactly
that sort of like what you know, past me said
about that vision that I had where spirit was showing
me just like the overturning of soil and.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Just how necessary it is, like and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Just so interesting that the difference between that Capricorn and
that Aquarius energy what was when when did it change?
When did the when was when did Pluto first go
into Capricorn?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So Pluto first went into Capricorn back in two thousand
and eight, so you can think back to two thousand
and eight and.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
The majority of people that it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Would have impacted the most is people who are Capricorn
rising and people with Capricorn placements, which I know you
have a lot of Capricorn places, so you know, you
think about over that time time period.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Like if you have been going through transformation.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
If you have been, you know, uncovering things about yourself
that have been hidden. If you have been just maybe
like copying it, you know, you finally get a break.
Unless you have Aquarius, there's going to be a bit
of yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I've we've been seeing like something about this is going
to be maybe quite a transformational time for is it
cardinal signs or like, do you know much about what's
going on with that or I kind of remember what
they called the cardinal the something.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, the fixed and the notable Ye, the types of
modes of the signs. So what you're probably hearing is
about the shift that's occurring next year with Neptune and Saturn.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So Neptune is the next most.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Out of planet only changes signs every fourteen years or so,
and Satin only changes signs about every three and so
they're both moving into their moving out of prices and
into areas, so they're moving into this cardinal sign right.
And so the reason why people are saying that it
impacts the cardinal signs is because one it's that those
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planets are moving through areas, but also they're making oppositions
which are tense and challenging angles to the sign of Libra,
and then they're making square angles, which is also tense
and challenging and frustrating to the signs of Capricorn and Cancer.
So that is why you might be hearing people talking
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about like this cardinal energy that's going to be occurring
because these two planets are shifting. But it's really interesting
to look at it on a bigger scale because we
actually have.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Pluto has just shifted into Aquarius.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Next year and through into twenty twenty six, we'll see
new move into Areas, We'll see Satin move into Ares.
We'll also see Urinus move into Gemini, and all of
these planets, these outer planets they're moving from and I
don't like to use these terms they're moving from feminine
science to masculine science. I prefer to say it as
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they're moving from Gin signs to Yang signs. Or we
could also say the polarity is like negative to positive.
And so what this means is that it's more of
an assertive energy, it's more of a proactive approach. It's
more of an independent, empowering energy.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
As a whole.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I suppose if we were just to sort of look
at these outer planets shifting into these Yang type signs.
So that's I think, I mean, going back to what
you were saying, their cardinal signs will be impacted, but
just in general, I think the energy is heading in
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that more of a yang energy.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So we'll so the cardinal signs will be the most effected.
Do you think what are the cardinal signs?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, so the cardinal signs are cancer, Libra, Capricorn, and Aris.
I said them kind of in the wrong way, but
that's so they're the cardinal signs.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
They will be impacted.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
But then you have to remember that the fix signs
are going to be impacted by by Pluto's move into
Aquarius because Aquarius and then we have the fix signs
of Aquarius, Leo, Scorpio, and Taurus. They're the fixed signs.
That's what that's what Pluto is going to be working
with more. But then you know, we can also say
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that the mutable signs are going to be impacted too when.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Urinus moves into Gemini.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So you know that's why everyone is probably feeling something.
So yeah, when Urinus moves into Gemini, that's a mutable sign.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So everyone's going to have and which are the mut
signs Gemini?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, Gemini Pisces, Sagittarius, and Virgo, right, so they're probably
going to be working more closely with Uranus, the planet
of revolution and change in rebellion.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So yeah, it's all everyone, everyone gets a band.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, it's so funny because I'm glad you've explained it
a little bit more because I just kept hearing like,
you know, the cardinal and the fixed signs, like you're
in for a fucking time basically, and I'm like, oh
my god, as someone who is an Aquarius with a
Leo moon and cancer rising and then the rest of
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me is like so much Capricorn, I'm like, what the
fuck am I in?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
For The way that I describe some of these outer
planet transits and how they impact us is that because
they move so slowly, the impact that they might have
on us is maybe like at times just like a
mild undercurrent. It's when the planet and it's a really
coming close to our personal planets, that is when they're
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going to have.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The most impact.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So for you, with your son in Aquarius, when Pluto
comes to meet that degree point, I can't remember what
degree it is, but you know, if your son was
at like ten degrees Aquarius, it's when Pluto gets very
close to that degree point that that's going to impact
to you the most. It's not going to be intense
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and chaotic for the next twenty years.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah right, Okay, I'm glad you explained it like that
because I know I'm sure it can be sort of terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, people are.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Sitting there going like, oh, does this mean it's going
to be a really hard year? A bad things going
to happen? Am I going to be just like dealing
with challenge after challenge? But it's like less of our
you know, pre warning that you know the next couple
of years are going to be probably a bit fucked,
And it's more just like these are just the energies
that you could possibly like you are probably going to
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be moving through.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I think that knowledge is power. So if we have
the knowledge of what is coming, doing the work on ourselves,
we know and we can see it is coming. It's
really just an opportunity to work with the energy. Know
that it's a cycle and that it's going to pass
as well. And you have to remember too. I think
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that sometimes and I even see this myself on social media.
We see these really dramatic videos of astrology and what's
happening and oh my god, it's a clip season or
Mercury's Station retrograde. It's actually station retrograde today. But we
see all this, but you know, it's not always they're
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probably like trying to get people's attention as well. So
we need to be careful that we're not like, oh,
like buying into the fear of that, because whilst for
some people it could be a challenging time, it could
be a lot of changes. You know, if we do
have the knowledge that something's coming, if we have if
we're working ourselves, like we know what our weaknesses are,
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then we can just be like, Okay, this is just
a cycle. It's going to come up, and I'm going
to work through it and then I'm going to move on.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I really like how you explain that and something when
you were saying, it's if you work with the energy
and recognize it's a cycle. The first thing I thought
about was our menstrual cycle, and like, you know, just
a few episodes ago, I had a mentoral coach on
and we were chatting about and I was saying, like,
the second I started working with my cycle and not
against it, my whole life fucking changed, and I was
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just thinking that then It's sort of like when you know,
say you're speaking about your mental cycle, and it's like, well,
you're in your lude, your phase, and your body needs rest,
so you rest. You know, you're in your summer phase,
and so like that's when you're all really creative or
like whatever, and you know, loud to your we normally
fucking spiral down to the pits of wherever. And so
this I think like if we have that same sort
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of approach to it, as in like, yes, there's going
to be challenges, but there always are. I think we
forget sometimes it's like we we often just sit there
and go like, surely that's enough. I want to get
to a point in my life where like my life
moving forward is like so fucking fine and dandy, not
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a single challenge occurs, and I just get to like,
I don't know, fucking run off into the sunset and
that's it for the rest of time. But the reality
is is that's not it. We're like here to constantly
evolve ourselves, evolve ourselves, like you know, as a collective,
but also individually. And so if instead of like working
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against that and being like no.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I don't want another challenge.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I don't want to better my you know which I
personally sometimes I'm like so fucking sick of bettering.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Myself Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But instead it's just like, well, that's what we're here
to do, so maybe like let's take the challenge on
and just work with the energy of that. And so, like,
as you said, use the knowledge of like, well, this
is sort of like what's probably going to be coming
up for me. If I'm aware of it, then it's
not so terrifying. It's just more like, oh, okay, I
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knew that there would be some uneasy or challenging energy
around this time. So I'm going to just be really
gentle with myself and I'm going to really lean into it,
and I'm going to surrender to it as opposed to
fuck you, fuck my life, can't believe this is happening
to me. That kind of thing, you know, that just
felt like such a lie.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Absolutely, And I think like what you said about the cycle,
it's so accurate because it is these are all just
cycles and we're just you know, going through. And that's
why I think astrology is so powerful, because we can
look back and if we keep like records or journals
of what happened in our lives, like we can go
back and look at what this cycle might have brought
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in another time, more earlier in our lives, and like, Okay,
that's interesting this came up. Then maybe something similar is
going to come up now. And yeah, like that, Like
when you first start working with the menstrual cycle of
what you were saying, you know, you probably like hate
the US.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Luteal cycle, it's like look this like, but then.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
When you start working with it, you actually are like, Okay, cool,
I'm just going to rest, so I'm going to chill,
and you embrace it, and so it's yeah, it's a
beautiful process for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
The other thing that you were talking about, you said
something about something going into retrograde, and I feel like
that's all we ever do, and what everyone talks about
is like, what the fuck is in the microwave at
the moment?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Can you tell us a bit about it? Because I
think we just came out of a retrograde, didn't.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
We We came out of a Jupiter retrograde, or we
went into Jupiter. We came out of Neptune retrograde and
went into retrograde a little while back. But so we're
just starting another Mercury retrograde. So this one goes for
three weeks. Mercury goes retrograd three times a year, and
I say, don't fear it. Like again, work with the energy.
It's a chance to do all the like the review
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they're reflecting, repairing, you know, maybe there's repairs that you
need to do around the house, or returning things. It's
a good time to turn things if you've borrowed something
from a friend, or you need to return close didn't fit,
or what have you. You know, do those sorts of things.
And if you are going to move forward with Mercury
type things which are communication travel, like I've done all
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of those things in merchant retrograde, bought plane tickets and
then realized that the ticket was on.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
The wrong day, or what have you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
If you are going to do those things, you just
want to be checking everything, maybe three times instead of two.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's not what's happening at the end of the year
is that Mars is actually going retrograde. And so this
is the rarest of the retrogrades, and so it can
off of as the hardest of the retrograde.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's too.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
The reason I say that it's one of the hardest
of the retrogrades is master the planet of moving forward. Now,
retrograde is a planet apparent motion of going backward. I
say apparent motion because it's really just from our perspective
here on Earth.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And so think about.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This energy of wanting to move forward, a planet that
helps us to take action, get motivation, get momentum, and
now it suddenly has to go retrograde.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's like it's just the motion that.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's going into and this planet, it only does it
every two years, and so.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's not common. We're not I mean, it's not as
common as.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Mercury retrograde, which goes retrograde three times a year. And
so this type of energy that we're heading into at
the end of the year is really an energy of
really knowing when to slow down and really feeling it
in your body, because Mars also represents our physical energy,
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so we might see a lot of people that experience
burnout or experience feeling stuck. You know, it's also inflammation
as well. And so the message is that it's just
to be not to have to feel like you have
to push forward, it's okay to to take a step back.
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You know, if you don't want to go to all
the Christmas parties, then you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That again is so interesting because that's something that's like
I think I've spoke about it on a podcast couple
of weeks ago, where I'm like, spirit is like slow down,
like really be so aware of burning out and like
knowing when to stop recognizing it. You don't get a
fucking gold medal just because you overdid things and really
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finding peace within those sort of in between moments as
opposed to just feeling like we need to do this,
think the next thing, blah blah blah, and that like
kind of equates to success. Like everyone just slide into
twenty twenty five, No big jumps, no one to dive in.
I don't want to see anyone doing a bomb dive
into fucking twenty twenty five. We're just going to take
a very gentle step collectively and just make not much noise,
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just like we've only just entered here. Okay, we're just
whispering like stage whisper voices that we've arrived.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, yeah, a nice softness because not only so you know,
not only is Mars in retrograde, but we also have
Jupiter and Uranus, so there's three planets in retrograde. As
we move into twenty twenty five. Now you might even
want to think back to the beginning of twenty twenty three,
and because it's a very similar energy, there were lots
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of planets in retrograde when we started twenty twenty three,
and again it was that energy of I don't need
to like rush into doing things, and you know, I remember,
you know, people were sort of just like the people
that were in alignment with the energy were just like,
you know, things didn't really pick up until the end
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of January, so that's been fact to that time.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And yeah, I was just I literally remember making a
post saying like if you don't feel like you know
that that new resolution, I just I can't remember exactly
the words, but it was that energy of just like
you know, just just gently slip into it like that
just really could feel that energy so strongly in twenty
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twenty three.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, so it'll be sah, absolutely exactly. Yeah, it's going
to be similar.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And you know, I've already heard people saying I can't
even think about twenty twenty five like I'm still I've
still got all this stuff to get done and accomplish
for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
So yeah, there is that. It does have that energy.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And we're coming up, you know, only a couple of
weeks away now to the seventh So yeah, that'll be
that'll be an interesting time.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And how about collectively because obvious, like the world has
been there's been a lot going on. Obviously, like the
election in America was a big thing. It feels like
there's I guess for me, when I look at a
lot of things occurring from kind of like a global
perspective and a political perspective, it almost feels like we're
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taking a step back before Like does it I like,
is that relative to sort of the planets, Like there
just feels like there's this almost like.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Step back before we leap forward.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Kind of thing, or like other planets out of an
alignment with what's going on.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think that is like what the retrogrades and all
these retrogrades.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Are sort of showing us.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's like, ah, like yes, we're having these big outer
planets shift into science. So there's a lot of newness,
there's a lot of change, but we do actually have
to you know, step back and we need to reevaluate,
we need to review.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You know, it can be so easy to.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Like as a collective and just be like, Okay, well
let's move forward into this new energy, into this new time.
But it's like, okay, well what can we actually learn
from you know, It's like you were talking about growth.
We go and grow and do all these things, but
then it's like how often do we actually like look
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back and.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Be like, oh, okay, this was good, this was not
so great?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Like what we do need to review and reflect so
we can you know, spin as the best versions of
ourselves with the best energy that we possibly can.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And so yeah, when you look at say, like the
election and stuff, And also I know I'm not the
only psychic medium who has been sitting there the whole
time saying like I just don't see the election really
like I don't really see Trump fully stepping into it,
or there's something happened some thing like it's like we
can't quite put our finger on it, but we just
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know that there's there's going to be something occurring. Are
the planets doing anything that can maybe like you know,
point towards that sort of energy.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Well, we got it. Yeah. The other I mean the
other thing that's there's a lot going on next year.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The other thing that's happening is the nodes of the
moon are shifting.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They've been in Aras and lib.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, are the nodes of the moon. I didn't know
the moon happened.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
So the nodes of the moon are essentially points in space,
and they're the points where the Sun and the Moon's
path cross, Okay, and they're said to represent almost like
our destiny or like where we're moving towards or what
we desire. And so as a collective, the North node
which is kind of what we're moving towards, and the
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South node is more about what we're moving away from.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
So the North node has been in areas.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Which is the sign of independence, and it's about me
and everything's about like it's it's about self worth and
you know, it's very pioneering and let's go type of energy,
but it is also about the individual, whereas the liberal energy,
which we've kind of been moving away from, is about
more about like harmony, harmonious relationships and love and having that.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Balance and equilibrium.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So it's almost like we've been letting go of those
and there is reasons why that can serve us in
certain ways, like letting go of relationships that are no
longer serving us and moving into our own personal power.
But as a collective, these nodes shift on the twelfth
of January into Virgo and Pisces, So we'll see the
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eclipses happen in Virgo and Pisces for the next year
and a half or so. And so now this energy
is more focused on how we can serve and how
we can heal as a collective, because it's kind of
you know, if we look at Virgo, maybe what we're
sort of Virgo is all about here. It's about service
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and how we can help other people, how we can
you know, get organized and get things done. And Pisces
is more connected to that healing and the spiritual world
and being connected to our intuition and healing through through
that way. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yes, Actually, so much sense. So that's really exciting. So
that's happening on the twelfth of January.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So that's happening on the twelfth of January, and then
we'll see the eclipses. I've just got some notes here.
The eclipses on the fourteenth of like eclipse season the
first week. There's always two eclipse seasons every year. The
first will be in March, so we'll see the eclipses
lunar eclipse in Virgo on the ninth, fourteenth of March,
and then again the solar eclipse on the twenty ninth
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of March, and then again in September, we'll have an
eclipse season, so the lunar eclipse on the eighth of
September in Virgo and the solar eclipse in Pisces. So
I think that that might sort of explain this energy
that you're talking about with the election and this feeling,
because I've heard that a lot a lot of people.
I'm you know, I do try and follow politics a
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little bit because and I mostly follow it through astrology,
and a lot of a lot of people are saying that,
you know, something just doesn't feel quite right, like there
might you know, there might be a shift or and
who knows what that could look like. We don't know yet,
but maybe we're about to find out, I because we
head into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yes, and do you see that sort of like written
kind of in astrology as well?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, I mean I think that like that that the
nodes of the moon shifting, there could.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Be that collective you know.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I really when I think about this, I think about
Pluto moving into Aquarius because that really, like what I've
been saying about this shift is that it's like power
to the people as opposed to power to the government.
So I think that's where we could see the shift.
And you know, and you know, as I said, the
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energies might not happen straight away. Sometimes it takes a
minute for them to you know, build and happen when
they move into a sign.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, right, Like it's not like the day it happens,
it's like, all right, it's going down.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah that makes it.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah. I think often we sort of think like, oh.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
My god, wet us move into Aquarius and it's like
my life is about to change.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
But it's like, well, we've got twenty years to do
this work, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, it's like a building energy.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
How do you think we can sort of on an
individual level, if we were to say, get our charts out,
what should we be looking at as far as like
how we can really prepare ourselves understand even just the
absolute basics obviously, like getting an actual reading will give
you a lot more of an idea. But just say,
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like for people listening right now who are like, I'm
just really intrigued, I just want to get my chart
out just so I have an idea of like where
I should be looking in my chart basically as to
the changes.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, do you mean in terms of things that might
be challenging or just in general?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just well, yeah, like things that just in general, like
if if you if you were wanting to prepare someone,
it's like, these are the things that I'd be looking at.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, So first I would look to where Aquarius is
in your chart. So you want to find out what
house Aquarius is in. I think for Uniki it's the
eighth house, which is which is the and if you
have Aquarius placements, because this is going to be where
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you're where this long term generational change is happening with
Pluto in Aquarius.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So you in the eight house.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It's all about the eighth houses kind of about our fears,
and it's also connected to seventh powers. Okay, yeah, so
for you that would be like more about relationships, and
so that might actually mean for you that this energy
is not so much impacting you that it's impacting your
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significant other relationship or significant other one. So it doesn't
have to be a romantic relationship. It can be like
a really close friendship or a family member. And so
that energy of Pluto moving into Aquarius, whilst it will
be impacting you when it hits the points in your
chart and the planets in your chart, it might be
playing out more in your partner's life.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So that's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
The other thing you might want to look.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
At is where Areas is and so because that's where
the big shift of Saturn and Neptune is happening. So
you know, Aris it's going to suddenly have all of
this new nag and Areas is the starting energy. It's
the first sign of the zodiac, so they're suddenly going
to have Neptune and Saturn, these two out of planets
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in their sign. Soe Neptune is connected to spirituality. It's
a creativity, artistic music, but also in its shadow or
I like to talk about planets in their light and shade,
we can think of confusion or illusion or not things
not being clear, and also addictions can fall under Neptune.
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And then when we look to Saturn. Saturn is all
about where we need to perhaps slow you know, slow
things down, learn a lesson. It's generally the planet of
time and forces us to have discipline and good boundaries
and know that things are built over time, which we
can find frustrating because we want quick winds and things
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happening fast. And so, where is areas in your chart,
because these planets are going to be moving in there
and they're probably going to have something to say about
about that area, that house that's that they're moving into.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Interesting Well, lucky for me, I've got no areas in
my chart at all.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I also don't have any planets in areas. But what
this means is that when planets like Satin and Neptune
move through areas, they're probably going to have an impact
on my things to do with my fourth house, which
is about my home, my family, my parents, my lineage,
you know, where.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I ground and have roots. So that's what I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Sort of saying, like, even if we don't have planets
or placements, these energies can still be playing out in
some sort of segment of our life. And I think
I'm just trying to think where if you have Aquarius
on the seventh. Then you might have areas up on
the ninth House somewhere there, ninth or tenth house. So
for you it might be impacting your if it's the
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ninth house, it to be more about.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Your the way you learn.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
There might be some travel on the cards, but the
night pass is about it's about our beliefs ultimately and
so and then the tenth House is more.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
About our career and reputation.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So you know, even if you don't have planets there,
it can be impacting in some way.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Interesting, so no one gets out of this like you know,
you an't got to skip through.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, and look, you know some people won't experience like
they won't feel the energies anywhere near and they might
not even feel them, like because if you don't have
you know, if you don't have any planets or points
in that in that part of your chart, but then
you know, if you have if you.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Don't have something in areas, but maybe you have something
in the opposite sign of Libra, then these energies are
going to come and make a tense angle.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
And so you know we're all experiencing something at some point.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, Actually that doesn't necessarily have to be because of Yeah,
I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Ask like, when say, like the moon moves into say
it's like a full moon in I don't know, Aquarius
or something, I often like, does that mean that that
energy is often quite If you have a lot of
Aquarius in your chart, it's probably quite a comfortable energy
for you, but for someone who doesn't, because I find
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personally when the moon is in a sign that I
don't have much of, say like the moon's in Aries
or the moon's in Scoopio, like the moon is into
something that like is not an energy that I'm in
a lot, I find that difficult. But when it's in
an energy that like whether it's like you know, Capricorn,
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Aquarius Leo, I'm like thriving because.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You yeah, you know those energies you have energy if
you have Aquarius energies, Tapricorn energies, then the moon.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Going through there it's like this, I know this energy.
It's the same thing. Like it's really interesting too when
I see.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
People who were born under a mercury retrograde, right, and
you know, they always are like what the hell is
with this mercury retrograde, Like it's.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Not even a thing for them.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Because it's their signature energy. They know it, and so
it's that that's when the time that they're going to thrive.
And so having something in your chart is almost like
I know this energy. I've got this kind of thing
and the other thing too that could be happening there.
I think you were born on a full moon as well,
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because I think you had the moon in Leo and
the sun in Aquarius and.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Similar to me, except mine's flipped around the other way.
So when we're born.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Under a full moon, it's almost like this energy is
known to us more so than you know, maybe a
first quarter moon or or a new moon.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Even so that's I think what you're talking about there.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, that's really fascinating. Well, thank you so much for
coming on and chatting to us. Is there anything anything
else that you think? I just feel like people need
to know this just before I go.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Like, Okay, there is something that's really beautiful that's happening
next year, and that is that Jupiter is moving into
Cancer and Jupiters has been moving through Gemini. And in
traditional astrology, there's certain areas that planets like to be
and don't like to be because they have they have
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or they don't have.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Access to the same sort of tools.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
So, for example, Jupiter is a sign of expansion and
growth and moving through Gemini. Gemini is very fast, it's
very like you know, it can be lots of ideas
coming in and the energies don't really match. So but
Jupiter moving into cancer, it's actually a sign that it
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likes to be in. So this is going to be
a really beautiful transit happening. I think it starts in July,
the start of June, and it lasts.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
For about a year.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
So look to where you have cancer in your chart,
and this is going to be a really beautiful, expansive time.
It's going to be abundant. In general, I think these
energies are going to help us really connect to a
more nurturing and caring type energy and also be able
to connect maybe on a deeper level with our intuition
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as Jupiter moves through cancer.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
So that's what I would say, that's something to look
forward to. I always love.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Looking to see where Jupiter is moving because it's like,
this is the planet that's good fortune, and you know,
it really makes.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Things, makes things nice. So I think that's one to
be watching out for.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
That is a perfect place to end a beautiful, exciting
Yay Jupiter.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Thanks for coming in and oh I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I love that so much. Thank you so much, Abby
for coming and chatting. I'm sure I'll be needing to
get you back, maybe even in the beginning of the
new year, just so we can go over anything. But
I really appreciate you coming on and educating us and
chatting to us about everything. It will never stop blowing
my mind. I feel like I want to learn astrology
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one of these days because it's just so fucking accurent.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Oh my gosh, I'm still learning, Like I don't know.
I'm sort of five years into my study and learning
and teaching, and I still I'm just like, whoa Like
things can be so literal in astrology.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
It's absolutely wild. Yes, I love.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
That so much.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Well, thank you so much, Abby, it was a pleasure
having you on. How can people find you?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, so people can come to my Instagram stars by Abby.
I also want to mention that I'm running a class
for the Astrology of twenty twenty five, So it's happening
at the start of December on the fifth, So if
people want to come and join that class, they can
find all the details over on my Instagram and on
my website. I'll be jumping into everything and going through
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it with a fine tooth comb, so come on and
find me. It starts by Abby and yeah, it's going
to be great, amazing.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'll put all of that in the show notes.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
See.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Thank you so much, Thank you Abby.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Bye.
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Crazy Crazy Crazy the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, Gordeous Legends,
and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
This week, we've got another Village Crazy Lady who has
come back to chat with us all things astrology. Abby
Lutus stars by Abby on Instagram. She has come on
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before at the beginning of the year, chatting about, you know,
what the planets are doing this year and what we
can be prepared for, and so I think it makes
a lot of sense to get her on back now one.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
To sort of refresh what the fuck.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Has been happening recently, because I think everybody's been going
I don't know what the planets are doing, but I
sure should know that they're doing something. And I know
anyone who follows astrology kind of has an idea that
there's a lot of shit going on.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So I think it'd be so good to just sort
of chat about it.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
So we're kind of aware we're going to talk about
what's going to be what the planets and stuff, you know,
what everything's fucking doing for the rest of the year,
and then also have a little chat about what's kind
of going to be happening in twenty twenty five. So Abby,
thank you so much for joining me again.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, thank you so much. Midiki is so good to
be here. I love talking astrology so well.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Can you please, firstly, what has been going on recently,
like over the last I don't know, a couple of
months or I mean you would know what the planets
are doing and why people are feeling probably like space
cadets and having identity crisises and all sorts of things.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Yeah, so one of the big shifts that has happened,
and look this is we have moved through a little
bit of this energy before, but Pluto has moved into Aquarius.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Now. Over the last two.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Or three years, Pluto has been moving back and forward,
finishing up its journey in Capricorn, finally moving into Aquarius.
I say it goes back and forward, is it because
it goes into retrograde it goes back into Capricorn, and
then it goes forward into Aquarius. But the thing that's
different about this time is that it's actually not going
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back into Capricorn again in our lifetime.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It will at some point.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
In like, you know, hundreds of years, but in our lifetime, no,
it's not going back into Capricorn. So it's really about
a completion of a cycle. And so depending on where
this is playing out in your charts, it's tying off
We have been tying off ends, closing a chapter, and
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now we're stepping.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Into the new chapter of.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
The next What the next sort of twenty years is
going to have and look like for.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Us as someone who like you know, isn't an astrologist,
but is like you know, doing collective healings every single
week and tuning into that energy. It's just so it
will never stop being interesting to me. How like in alignment,
that whole concept is with sort of what's been coming
through lately. It's kind of just like this moving through
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just like the old shit. It's like you need to
shed to what do they say to me the other day,
They're like to grow, You also need to like move
through things as well, to like shed things and move
into newness. Like you know, if you're a fucking lizard
and you're growing into a new body, you also have
to shed your old skin. And that kind of has
sort of felt like the energy like people have been
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sort of moving through maybe this like murkiness, this hardness,
this confusion was a feeling that was coming up a
lot because it just sort of felt like people were
sort of in this limbo of like from all to new.
Do you think that makes sort of sense?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Yeah, I think there is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
What I'm talking is about the Pluto moving into Aquarius.
That's one small I mean, it's a big change, but
over the next sort of two years, which I kind
of almost see twenty twenty five and twenty twenty six,
is like it's a very blended kind of energy. But
not only and I don't want to skip ahead too much,
but not only is Pluto having the shift which it's
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just had, but Neptune, Uranus, and Satin they're also shifting signs.
The four most outer planets are moving next year and
will be complete in twenty twenty six. So not only
is Pluto doing this, but the other outer planets, which
the outer planets are really about generational and social change
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and may not necessarily impact us as much on a
social level. Again, it depends on like an INDIVI at
your level, depending on where it is in our chart.
So you know that confusion that you're talking about Neptune is.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
When I think about confusion, I think about.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Neptune, and Neptune's kind of at the very end of
its cycle, and it's next year and into twenty twenty six,
it's going to be starting afresh, and so I think
that might be where all of.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
That is coming into.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
But I absolutely hear you, like, you can't take if
you're wanting to move to the next level or in
the next chapter, you can't take that old version of
yourself with you. You have to let go of that so
that you can step into the new version of yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
Actually, I just remember the term that they were giving
it was growing pains, kind of like there's a difference
between discomfort feeling like, you know, a discomfort in your
body and with the experience, because I think they're like,
there's a difference between feeling uncomfortable about something and being
like a big fuck know in your body, And sometimes
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we do need to feel uncomfortable, because like that's where
change happens.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, it's like starting a.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
New job, like the first day of a new school
or a new job, or doing something that you've never
done before.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
It feels uncomfortable.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
It doesn't feel like a fuck no, but it feels uncomfortable,
which is a nice feeling. And so sometimes I think
we can get confused, I think between the two when
we're in that like really discomfort feeling, which I think
by the sound of you know everything, that all the
changes that are sort of happening, those big changes, that's
probably what it might feel like in our bodies or
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in our world.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah. Absolutely, I think that's spot on.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
And I think I heard a life coach once say
that the emotions.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
That we have in our life, they are going to.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Be like fifty to fifty, right, So we're always going
to experience fifty percent positive emotions and fifty percent negative
of emotions. So it's really about learning to get better
at managing the challenging or negative emotions or challenging times.
So they're always going to come up. You know, we're
never going to we're never going.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
To complete out that assignment. That's why we're here. On Earth,
you know.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So okay, So, so Pluto has officially moved into Aquarius.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
When did that actually happen?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
That happened back on the twentieth of November.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
We had it.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Also, we did have a little bit of Pluto in
Aquarius at the beginning of the year. So Pluto was
in Aquarius sort of from January through to about.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
I think it was about June. I'd have to go back,
or actually September.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So we've already experienced like this before, and then again
in twenty twenty three there was a short stint where
Pluto was in Aquarius. So you can kind of go
back to those dates and sort of I mean, might
not be for everyone, but you can be like, oh,
what were the little new snippets of change coming into
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my life? And maybe this is that might give the
one idea of what is to come with.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
This transit over the next twenty years.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
How about on a more collective level, can you see
what happened the last time it sort of moved into
things and things that happened.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, absolutely, So the last time that happened was like
back in the eighteen hundreds or way back in the
seventeen or eighteen hundreds or something, but it was when
the revolutions happened. And so essentially the way that I
talk about this transit in general is Capricorn is a
sign of structure and discipline. Government falls in here, and
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Pluto is the kind of like transforming and power.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Essentially.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Aquarius, on the other hand, is the plant is the
sign of the people, the collective, the greater whole. And
so if you sort of merge those energies of Pluto,
big power and essentially Pluto's the god of the underworld,
it's here to like pull up all the I think
you used this term last time making it was that
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all the soil, the stuff at the bottom, and turn
up to see and expose what is.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
In the depths or the things that we can't see.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
So I think there are is going to be like more,
you know, more more focus on our voice, the people,
the collective, and it's going to start to be punching
through and there's this shift that's going to start happening.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
That's what That's what I think.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
As an Aquarius that excites the shit out of me
because that word revolution, I can't even remember where I've
used it before, but I like there's something about especially
like this the end of this year. I think, like
the end of this year I'm saying, and then moving
into twenty twenty five, that new energy, it has such
a revolution energy to it, Like I think some really
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big fucking shit is going to be happening. And I
haven't really had a chance to fully sit down and
like write down everything, but I think, like where exactly
that sort of like what you know, past me said
about that vision that I had where spirit was showing
me just like the overturning of soil and.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Just how necessary it is, like and yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Just so interesting that the difference between that Capricorn and
that Aquarius energy what was when when did it change?
When did the when was when did Pluto first go
into Capricorn?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So Pluto first went into Capricorn back in two thousand
and eight, so you can think back to two thousand
and eight and.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
The majority of people that it.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Would have impacted the most is people who are Capricorn
rising and people with Capricorn placements, which I know you
have a lot of Capricorn places, so you know, you
think about over that time time period.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Like if you have been going through transformation.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
If you have been, you know, uncovering things about yourself
that have been hidden. If you have been just maybe
like copying it, you know, you finally get a break.
Unless you have Aquarius, there's going to be a bit
of yeah, well.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I've we've been seeing like something about this is going
to be maybe quite a transformational time for is it
cardinal signs or like, do you know much about what's
going on with that or I kind of remember what
they called the cardinal the something.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, the fixed and the notable Ye, the types of
modes of the signs. So what you're probably hearing is
about the shift that's occurring next year with Neptune and Saturn.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So Neptune is the next most.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Out of planet only changes signs every fourteen years or so,
and Satin only changes signs about every three and so
they're both moving into their moving out of prices and
into areas, so they're moving into this cardinal sign right.
And so the reason why people are saying that it
impacts the cardinal signs is because one it's that those
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planets are moving through areas, but also they're making oppositions
which are tense and challenging angles to the sign of Libra,
and then they're making square angles, which is also tense
and challenging and frustrating to the signs of Capricorn and Cancer.
So that is why you might be hearing people talking
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about like this cardinal energy that's going to be occurring
because these two planets are shifting. But it's really interesting
to look at it on a bigger scale because we
actually have.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Pluto has just shifted into Aquarius.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Next year and through into twenty twenty six, we'll see
new move into Areas, We'll see Satin move into Ares.
We'll also see Urinus move into Gemini, and all of
these planets, these outer planets they're moving from and I
don't like to use these terms they're moving from feminine
science to masculine science. I prefer to say it as
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they're moving from Gin signs to Yang signs. Or we
could also say the polarity is like negative to positive.
And so what this means is that it's more of
an assertive energy, it's more of a proactive approach. It's
more of an independent, empowering energy.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
As a whole.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
I suppose if we were just to sort of look
at these outer planets shifting into these Yang type signs.
So that's I think, I mean, going back to what
you were saying, their cardinal signs will be impacted, but
just in general, I think the energy is heading in
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that more of a yang energy.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
So we'll so the cardinal signs will be the most effected.
Do you think what are the cardinal signs?
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, so the cardinal signs are cancer, Libra, Capricorn, and Aris.
I said them kind of in the wrong way, but
that's so they're the cardinal signs.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
They will be impacted.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
But then you have to remember that the fix signs
are going to be impacted by by Pluto's move into
Aquarius because Aquarius and then we have the fix signs
of Aquarius, Leo, Scorpio, and Taurus. They're the fixed signs.
That's what that's what Pluto is going to be working
with more. But then you know, we can also say
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that the mutable signs are going to be impacted too when.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Urinus moves into Gemini.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
So you know that's why everyone is probably feeling something.
So yeah, when Urinus moves into Gemini, that's a mutable sign.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
So everyone's going to have and which are the mut
signs Gemini?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah, Gemini Pisces, Sagittarius, and Virgo, right, so they're probably
going to be working more closely with Uranus, the planet
of revolution and change in rebellion.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So yeah, it's all everyone, everyone gets a band.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Well, it's so funny because I'm glad you've explained it
a little bit more because I just kept hearing like,
you know, the cardinal and the fixed signs, like you're
in for a fucking time basically, and I'm like, oh
my god, as someone who is an Aquarius with a
Leo moon and cancer rising and then the rest of
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me is like so much Capricorn, I'm like, what the
fuck am I in?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
For The way that I describe some of these outer
planet transits and how they impact us is that because
they move so slowly, the impact that they might have
on us is maybe like at times just like a
mild undercurrent. It's when the planet and it's a really
coming close to our personal planets, that is when they're
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going to have.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The most impact.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
So for you, with your son in Aquarius, when Pluto
comes to meet that degree point, I can't remember what
degree it is, but you know, if your son was
at like ten degrees Aquarius, it's when Pluto gets very
close to that degree point that that's going to impact
to you the most. It's not going to be intense
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and chaotic for the next twenty years.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah right, Okay, I'm glad you explained it like that
because I know I'm sure it can be sort of terrifying.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
You know, people are.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Sitting there going like, oh, does this mean it's going
to be a really hard year? A bad things going
to happen? Am I going to be just like dealing
with challenge after challenge? But it's like less of our
you know, pre warning that you know the next couple
of years are going to be probably a bit fucked,
And it's more just like these are just the energies
that you could possibly like you are probably going to
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be moving through.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
I think that knowledge is power. So if we have
the knowledge of what is coming, doing the work on ourselves,
we know and we can see it is coming. It's
really just an opportunity to work with the energy. Know
that it's a cycle and that it's going to pass
as well. And you have to remember too. I think
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that sometimes and I even see this myself on social media.
We see these really dramatic videos of astrology and what's
happening and oh my god, it's a clip season or
Mercury's Station retrograde. It's actually station retrograde today. But we
see all this, but you know, it's not always they're
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probably like trying to get people's attention as well. So
we need to be careful that we're not like, oh,
like buying into the fear of that, because whilst for
some people it could be a challenging time, it could
be a lot of changes. You know, if we do
have the knowledge that something's coming, if we have if
we're working ourselves, like we know what our weaknesses are,
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then we can just be like, Okay, this is just
a cycle. It's going to come up, and I'm going
to work through it and then I'm going to move on.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
I really like how you explain that and something when
you were saying, it's if you work with the energy
and recognize it's a cycle. The first thing I thought
about was our menstrual cycle, and like, you know, just
a few episodes ago, I had a mentoral coach on
and we were chatting about and I was saying, like,
the second I started working with my cycle and not
against it, my whole life fucking changed, and I was
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just thinking that then It's sort of like when you know,
say you're speaking about your mental cycle, and it's like, well,
you're in your lude, your phase, and your body needs rest,
so you rest. You know, you're in your summer phase,
and so like that's when you're all really creative or
like whatever, and you know, loud to your we normally
fucking spiral down to the pits of wherever. And so
this I think like if we have that same sort
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of approach to it, as in like, yes, there's going
to be challenges, but there always are. I think we
forget sometimes it's like we we often just sit there
and go like, surely that's enough. I want to get
to a point in my life where like my life
moving forward is like so fucking fine and dandy, not
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a single challenge occurs, and I just get to like,
I don't know, fucking run off into the sunset and
that's it for the rest of time. But the reality
is is that's not it. We're like here to constantly
evolve ourselves, evolve ourselves, like you know, as a collective,
but also individually. And so if instead of like working
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against that and being like no.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I don't want another challenge.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I don't want to better my you know which I
personally sometimes I'm like so fucking sick of bettering.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Myself Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
But instead it's just like, well, that's what we're here
to do, so maybe like let's take the challenge on
and just work with the energy of that. And so, like,
as you said, use the knowledge of like, well, this
is sort of like what's probably going to be coming
up for me. If I'm aware of it, then it's
not so terrifying. It's just more like, oh, okay, I
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knew that there would be some uneasy or challenging energy
around this time. So I'm going to just be really
gentle with myself and I'm going to really lean into it,
and I'm going to surrender to it as opposed to
fuck you, fuck my life, can't believe this is happening
to me. That kind of thing, you know, that just
felt like such a lie.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Absolutely, And I think like what you said about the cycle,
it's so accurate because it is these are all just
cycles and we're just you know, going through. And that's
why I think astrology is so powerful, because we can
look back and if we keep like records or journals
of what happened in our lives, like we can go
back and look at what this cycle might have brought
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in another time, more earlier in our lives, and like, Okay,
that's interesting this came up. Then maybe something similar is
going to come up now. And yeah, like that, Like
when you first start working with the menstrual cycle of
what you were saying, you know, you probably like hate
the US.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Luteal cycle, it's like look this like, but then.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
When you start working with it, you actually are like, Okay, cool,
I'm just going to rest, so I'm going to chill,
and you embrace it, and so it's yeah, it's a
beautiful process for sure.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
The other thing that you were talking about, you said
something about something going into retrograde, and I feel like
that's all we ever do, and what everyone talks about
is like, what the fuck is in the microwave at
the moment?
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Can you tell us a bit about it? Because I
think we just came out of a retrograde, didn't.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
We We came out of a Jupiter retrograde, or we
went into Jupiter. We came out of Neptune retrograde and
went into retrograde a little while back. But so we're
just starting another Mercury retrograde. So this one goes for
three weeks. Mercury goes retrograd three times a year, and
I say, don't fear it. Like again, work with the energy.
It's a chance to do all the like the review
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they're reflecting, repairing, you know, maybe there's repairs that you
need to do around the house, or returning things. It's
a good time to turn things if you've borrowed something
from a friend, or you need to return close didn't fit,
or what have you. You know, do those sorts of things.
And if you are going to move forward with Mercury
type things which are communication travel, like I've done all
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of those things in merchant retrograde, bought plane tickets and
then realized that the ticket was on.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
The wrong day, or what have you.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
If you are going to do those things, you just
want to be checking everything, maybe three times instead of two.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
It's not what's happening at the end of the year
is that Mars is actually going retrograde. And so this
is the rarest of the retrogrades, and so it can
off of as the hardest of the retrograde.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
It's too.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
The reason I say that it's one of the hardest
of the retrogrades is master the planet of moving forward. Now,
retrograde is a planet apparent motion of going backward. I
say apparent motion because it's really just from our perspective
here on Earth.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
And so think about.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
This energy of wanting to move forward, a planet that
helps us to take action, get motivation, get momentum, and
now it suddenly has to go retrograde.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
It's like it's just the motion that.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
It's going into and this planet, it only does it
every two years, and so.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
It's not common. We're not I mean, it's not as
common as.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Mercury retrograde, which goes retrograde three times a year. And
so this type of energy that we're heading into at
the end of the year is really an energy of
really knowing when to slow down and really feeling it
in your body, because Mars also represents our physical energy,
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so we might see a lot of people that experience
burnout or experience feeling stuck. You know, it's also inflammation
as well. And so the message is that it's just
to be not to have to feel like you have
to push forward, it's okay to to take a step back.
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You know, if you don't want to go to all
the Christmas parties, then you don't have to.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That again is so interesting because that's something that's like
I think I've spoke about it on a podcast couple
of weeks ago, where I'm like, spirit is like slow down,
like really be so aware of burning out and like
knowing when to stop recognizing it. You don't get a
fucking gold medal just because you overdid things and really
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finding peace within those sort of in between moments as
opposed to just feeling like we need to do this,
think the next thing, blah blah blah, and that like
kind of equates to success. Like everyone just slide into
twenty twenty five, No big jumps, no one to dive in.
I don't want to see anyone doing a bomb dive
into fucking twenty twenty five. We're just going to take
a very gentle step collectively and just make not much noise,
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just like we've only just entered here. Okay, we're just
whispering like stage whisper voices that we've arrived.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, yeah, a nice softness because not only so you know,
not only is Mars in retrograde, but we also have
Jupiter and Uranus, so there's three planets in retrograde. As
we move into twenty twenty five. Now you might even
want to think back to the beginning of twenty twenty three,
and because it's a very similar energy, there were lots
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of planets in retrograde when we started twenty twenty three,
and again it was that energy of I don't need
to like rush into doing things, and you know, I remember,
you know, people were sort of just like the people
that were in alignment with the energy were just like,
you know, things didn't really pick up until the end
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of January, so that's been fact to that time.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
And yeah, I was just I literally remember making a
post saying like if you don't feel like you know
that that new resolution, I just I can't remember exactly
the words, but it was that energy of just like
you know, just just gently slip into it like that
just really could feel that energy so strongly in twenty
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twenty three.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, so it'll be sah, absolutely exactly. Yeah, it's going
to be similar.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
And you know, I've already heard people saying I can't
even think about twenty twenty five like I'm still I've
still got all this stuff to get done and accomplish
for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
So yeah, there is that. It does have that energy.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
And we're coming up, you know, only a couple of
weeks away now to the seventh So yeah, that'll be
that'll be an interesting time.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
And how about collectively because obvious, like the world has
been there's been a lot going on. Obviously, like the
election in America was a big thing. It feels like
there's I guess for me, when I look at a
lot of things occurring from kind of like a global
perspective and a political perspective, it almost feels like we're
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taking a step back before Like does it I like,
is that relative to sort of the planets, Like there
just feels like there's this almost like.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Step back before we leap forward.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Kind of thing, or like other planets out of an
alignment with what's going on.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
I think that is like what the retrogrades and all
these retrogrades.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
Are sort of showing us.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
It's like, ah, like yes, we're having these big outer
planets shift into science. So there's a lot of newness,
there's a lot of change, but we do actually have
to you know, step back and we need to reevaluate,
we need to review.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
You know, it can be so easy to.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Like as a collective and just be like, Okay, well
let's move forward into this new energy, into this new time.
But it's like, okay, well what can we actually learn
from you know, It's like you were talking about growth.
We go and grow and do all these things, but
then it's like how often do we actually like look
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back and.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
Be like, oh, okay, this was good, this was not
so great?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Like what we do need to review and reflect so
we can you know, spin as the best versions of
ourselves with the best energy that we possibly can.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
And so yeah, when you look at say, like the
election and stuff, And also I know I'm not the
only psychic medium who has been sitting there the whole
time saying like I just don't see the election really
like I don't really see Trump fully stepping into it,
or there's something happened some thing like it's like we
can't quite put our finger on it, but we just
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know that there's there's going to be something occurring. Are
the planets doing anything that can maybe like you know,
point towards that sort of energy.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
Well, we got it. Yeah. The other I mean the
other thing that's there's a lot going on next year.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
The other thing that's happening is the nodes of the
moon are shifting.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
They've been in Aras and lib.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, are the nodes of the moon. I didn't know
the moon happened.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
So the nodes of the moon are essentially points in space,
and they're the points where the Sun and the Moon's
path cross, Okay, and they're said to represent almost like
our destiny or like where we're moving towards or what
we desire. And so as a collective, the North node
which is kind of what we're moving towards, and the
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South node is more about what we're moving away from.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
So the North node has been in areas.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Which is the sign of independence, and it's about me
and everything's about like it's it's about self worth and
you know, it's very pioneering and let's go type of energy,
but it is also about the individual, whereas the liberal energy,
which we've kind of been moving away from, is about
more about like harmony, harmonious relationships and love and having that.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Balance and equilibrium.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
So it's almost like we've been letting go of those
and there is reasons why that can serve us in
certain ways, like letting go of relationships that are no
longer serving us and moving into our own personal power.
But as a collective, these nodes shift on the twelfth
of January into Virgo and Pisces, So we'll see the
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eclipses happen in Virgo and Pisces for the next year
and a half or so. And so now this energy
is more focused on how we can serve and how
we can heal as a collective, because it's kind of
you know, if we look at Virgo, maybe what we're
sort of Virgo is all about here. It's about service
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and how we can help other people, how we can
you know, get organized and get things done. And Pisces
is more connected to that healing and the spiritual world
and being connected to our intuition and healing through through
that way. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Yes, Actually, so much sense. So that's really exciting. So
that's happening on the twelfth of January.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
So that's happening on the twelfth of January, and then
we'll see the eclipses. I've just got some notes here.
The eclipses on the fourteenth of like eclipse season the
first week. There's always two eclipse seasons every year. The
first will be in March, so we'll see the eclipses
lunar eclipse in Virgo on the ninth, fourteenth of March,
and then again the solar eclipse on the twenty ninth
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of March, and then again in September, we'll have an
eclipse season, so the lunar eclipse on the eighth of
September in Virgo and the solar eclipse in Pisces. So
I think that that might sort of explain this energy
that you're talking about with the election and this feeling,
because I've heard that a lot a lot of people.
I'm you know, I do try and follow politics a
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little bit because and I mostly follow it through astrology,
and a lot of a lot of people are saying that,
you know, something just doesn't feel quite right, like there
might you know, there might be a shift or and
who knows what that could look like. We don't know yet,
but maybe we're about to find out, I because we
head into twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Yes, and do you see that sort of like written
kind of in astrology as well?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Yeah, I mean I think that like that that the
nodes of the moon shifting, there could.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Be that collective you know.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I really when I think about this, I think about
Pluto moving into Aquarius because that really, like what I've
been saying about this shift is that it's like power
to the people as opposed to power to the government.
So I think that's where we could see the shift.
And you know, and you know, as I said, the
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energies might not happen straight away. Sometimes it takes a
minute for them to you know, build and happen when
they move into a sign.
Speaker 1 (33:25):
Yeah, right, Like it's not like the day it happens,
it's like, all right, it's going down.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah that makes it.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, yeah. I think often we sort of think like, oh.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
My god, wet us move into Aquarius and it's like
my life is about to change.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
But it's like, well, we've got twenty years to do
this work, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, it's like a building energy.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
How do you think we can sort of on an
individual level, if we were to say, get our charts out,
what should we be looking at as far as like
how we can really prepare ourselves understand even just the
absolute basics obviously, like getting an actual reading will give
you a lot more of an idea. But just say,
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like for people listening right now who are like, I'm
just really intrigued, I just want to get my chart
out just so I have an idea of like where
I should be looking in my chart basically as to
the changes.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, do you mean in terms of things that might
be challenging or just in general?
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Well?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just well, yeah, like things that just in general, like
if if you if you were wanting to prepare someone,
it's like, these are the things that I'd be looking at.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, So first I would look to where Aquarius is
in your chart. So you want to find out what
house Aquarius is in. I think for Uniki it's the
eighth house, which is which is the and if you
have Aquarius placements, because this is going to be where
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you're where this long term generational change is happening with
Pluto in Aquarius.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So you in the eight house.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
It's all about the eighth houses kind of about our fears,
and it's also connected to seventh powers. Okay, yeah, so
for you that would be like more about relationships, and
so that might actually mean for you that this energy
is not so much impacting you that it's impacting your
(35:23):
significant other relationship or significant other one. So it doesn't
have to be a romantic relationship. It can be like
a really close friendship or a family member. And so
that energy of Pluto moving into Aquarius, whilst it will
be impacting you when it hits the points in your
chart and the planets in your chart, it might be
playing out more in your partner's life.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
If that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
So that's.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
The other thing you might want to look.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
At is where Areas is and so because that's where
the big shift of Saturn and Neptune is happening. So
you know, Aris it's going to suddenly have all of
this new nag and Areas is the starting energy. It's
the first sign of the zodiac, so they're suddenly going
to have Neptune and Saturn, these two out of planets
(36:13):
in their sign. Soe Neptune is connected to spirituality. It's
a creativity, artistic music, but also in its shadow or
I like to talk about planets in their light and shade,
we can think of confusion or illusion or not things
not being clear, and also addictions can fall under Neptune.
(36:36):
And then when we look to Saturn. Saturn is all
about where we need to perhaps slow you know, slow
things down, learn a lesson. It's generally the planet of
time and forces us to have discipline and good boundaries
and know that things are built over time, which we
can find frustrating because we want quick winds and things
(36:58):
happening fast. And so, where is areas in your chart,
because these planets are going to be moving in there
and they're probably going to have something to say about
about that area, that house that's that they're moving into.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Interesting Well, lucky for me, I've got no areas in
my chart at all.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I also don't have any planets in areas. But what
this means is that when planets like Satin and Neptune
move through areas, they're probably going to have an impact
on my things to do with my fourth house, which
is about my home, my family, my parents, my lineage,
you know, where.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
I ground and have roots. So that's what I'm.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Sort of saying, like, even if we don't have planets
or placements, these energies can still be playing out in
some sort of segment of our life. And I think
I'm just trying to think where if you have Aquarius
on the seventh. Then you might have areas up on
the ninth House somewhere there, ninth or tenth house. So
for you it might be impacting your if it's the
(38:05):
ninth house, it to be more about.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
Your the way you learn.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
There might be some travel on the cards, but the
night pass is about it's about our beliefs ultimately and
so and then the tenth House is more.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
About our career and reputation.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
So you know, even if you don't have planets there,
it can be impacting in some way.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Interesting, so no one gets out of this like you know,
you an't got to skip through.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
Yeah, and look, you know some people won't experience like
they won't feel the energies anywhere near and they might
not even feel them, like because if you don't have
you know, if you don't have any planets or points
in that in that part of your chart, but then
you know, if you have if you.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
Don't have something in areas, but maybe you have something
in the opposite sign of Libra, then these energies are
going to come and make a tense angle.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
And so you know we're all experiencing something at some point.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Yeah, Actually that doesn't necessarily have to be because of Yeah,
I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Ask like, when say, like the moon moves into say
it's like a full moon in I don't know, Aquarius
or something, I often like, does that mean that that
energy is often quite If you have a lot of
Aquarius in your chart, it's probably quite a comfortable energy
for you, but for someone who doesn't, because I find
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personally when the moon is in a sign that I
don't have much of, say like the moon's in Aries
or the moon's in Scoopio, like the moon is into
something that like is not an energy that I'm in
a lot, I find that difficult. But when it's in
an energy that like whether it's like you know, Capricorn,
(39:56):
Aquarius Leo, I'm like thriving because.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
You yeah, you know those energies you have energy if
you have Aquarius energies, Tapricorn energies, then the moon.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Going through there it's like this, I know this energy.
It's the same thing. Like it's really interesting too when
I see.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
People who were born under a mercury retrograde, right, and
you know, they always are like what the hell is
with this mercury retrograde, Like it's.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Not even a thing for them.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Because it's their signature energy. They know it, and so
it's that that's when the time that they're going to thrive.
And so having something in your chart is almost like
I know this energy. I've got this kind of thing
and the other thing too that could be happening there.
I think you were born on a full moon as well,
(40:47):
because I think you had the moon in Leo and
the sun in Aquarius and.
Speaker 4 (40:52):
Similar to me, except mine's flipped around the other way.
So when we're born.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
Under a full moon, it's almost like this energy is
known to us more so than you know, maybe a
first quarter moon or or a new moon.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Even so that's I think what you're talking about there.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, that's really fascinating. Well, thank you so much for
coming on and chatting to us. Is there anything anything
else that you think? I just feel like people need
to know this just before I go.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
Like, Okay, there is something that's really beautiful that's happening
next year, and that is that Jupiter is moving into
Cancer and Jupiters has been moving through Gemini. And in
traditional astrology, there's certain areas that planets like to be
and don't like to be because they have they have
(41:48):
or they don't have.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
Access to the same sort of tools.
Speaker 3 (41:50):
So, for example, Jupiter is a sign of expansion and
growth and moving through Gemini. Gemini is very fast, it's
very like you know, it can be lots of ideas
coming in and the energies don't really match. So but
Jupiter moving into cancer, it's actually a sign that it
(42:11):
likes to be in. So this is going to be
a really beautiful transit happening. I think it starts in July,
the start of June, and it lasts.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
For about a year.
Speaker 3 (42:23):
So look to where you have cancer in your chart,
and this is going to be a really beautiful, expansive time.
It's going to be abundant. In general, I think these
energies are going to help us really connect to a
more nurturing and caring type energy and also be able
to connect maybe on a deeper level with our intuition
(42:44):
as Jupiter moves through cancer.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
So that's what I would say, that's something to look
forward to. I always love.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Looking to see where Jupiter is moving because it's like,
this is the planet that's good fortune, and you know,
it really makes.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
Things, makes things nice. So I think that's one to
be watching out for.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
That is a perfect place to end a beautiful, exciting
Yay Jupiter.
Speaker 2 (43:09):
Thanks for coming in and oh I love that.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
I love that so much. Thank you so much, Abby
for coming and chatting. I'm sure I'll be needing to
get you back, maybe even in the beginning of the
new year, just so we can go over anything. But
I really appreciate you coming on and educating us and
chatting to us about everything. It will never stop blowing
my mind. I feel like I want to learn astrology
(43:34):
one of these days because it's just so fucking accurent.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Oh my gosh, I'm still learning, Like I don't know.
I'm sort of five years into my study and learning
and teaching, and I still I'm just like, whoa Like
things can be so literal in astrology.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
It's absolutely wild. Yes, I love.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
That so much.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Well, thank you so much, Abby, it was a pleasure
having you on. How can people find you?
Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, so people can come to my Instagram stars by Abby.
I also want to mention that I'm running a class
for the Astrology of twenty twenty five, So it's happening
at the start of December on the fifth, So if
people want to come and join that class, they can
find all the details over on my Instagram and on
my website. I'll be jumping into everything and going through
(44:24):
it with a fine tooth comb, so come on and
find me. It starts by Abby and yeah, it's going
to be great, amazing.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'll put all of that in the show notes.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
See.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Thank you so much, Thank you Abby.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Bye.
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