October 28, 2024 • 42 mins
Today’s episode is SO DAMN IMPORTANT. Mikki chats to Period Coach, Rebecca May. Mikki worked with Bec 1:1 a few years ago when she realised that at 30 years old she knew NOTHING about her cycle. It changed everything! Bec is a wealth of knowledge and this episode will teach you and empower you regardless of whether or not you have a uterus.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apoge Production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
People are talking to me and they are not physically
in this room, so just strap in for that.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Can't call me crazy because I said it first.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Whoever's trying to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,
just bring it on.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Crazy Crazy Crazy, The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends,
and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
This week, I have an incredible guest in who is
going to educate the shit out of us. I've got
Rebecca May, who is the period coach. We connected about
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over a year. Well it was well over a year
ago now actually a couple of years. Yes, Oh my god,
that's gone so fast. So even though I'm someone who
has grown up in a family of all girls, like
literally the eldest of four girls and only our mum
raised us, I knew absolutely fucking nothing about my cycle,
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like literally nothing. It was a surprise every single time
my period came. I have ENDO, I have PMDD. I've
always had like so many issues around my cycle. I've
only got one fallopian tube. Like there's so much shit
going on down there, and I just was so unbelievably disconnected,
like just knew absolutely nothing. But then I started to
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learn more about cycles and like why we should be
why we should be learning about them just because they
literally are such a significant part of our life, like
because dirt, I know, like really massive. One side had children,
but I only had like one or two periods between
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each kid because I would like get pregnant, breastfeed. I'm
one of those lucky ones who wouldn't get their period
again until i'd basically finish breastfeeding, and then I'd have
like two periods and then I'd fall pregnant again.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I just did that a few times.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Once I had.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That was just my life for like, you know, a
bunch of years. And then I once.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I had Woody, I was like so excited.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
To get my period back because I was like, this
is it, Like because I was like, there's no fucking
way I'm having more children, like I'm absolutely done and dusted,
like sew me up, no, thank you, like sent Chris
off to get nuted, and we were like, you know,
absolutely not. And I was like, once I get my
period back, and by this time we'd connected we chatted.
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I'd learned a fair bit from you. I was so
interested in, like everything that you had to teach, And
I said to myself, the second I get my period back,
I'm working with you one on one because I just
want to really fucking learn and understand my cycle. So
let's fucking talk about it. For status Beck, what got
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you into it? Like, what made you so passionate about
learning about cycles?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So I originally was really interested in my cycle, similar
to you.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
After the birth of my first baby, Olive.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I got my cycle back at around ten months postpartum,
and something inside me was just like, I feel like
I need to explore this deeper. And so I actively
went out and started seeking information about this thing I'd
heard of cord cyclic a living and I got all
the information I could and started applying it to myself,
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and I found that it just changed my entire life, literally,
like it made me a better person, It made me
a better mother, and made me feel so grounded in
you know, that first year of post pardon when life
is just so crazy and like you're just learning so
much about yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And so it was just something that I.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Felt this deep calling, like I need to share this
with as many people as possible, because why are we
not learning this already? Like why do I Why am
I nearly thirty? I was like, I think twenty eight
or something like that at the time. Why am I
nearly thirty? And I'm literally just learning how the foundational
elements of my body work.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It is literally wild insane.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The fact that it's not like taught to us day
dot yeah, is crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Like it's literally how we work.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It is the thing that keeps the world literally going
and keeps the world populated. And yet we're just like
sneaking tampons like into bathrooms with shame, just like it's wild.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, And that's a big part of it too, I think,
is you know, the shame and trauma that we're still
working through. Like I remember being like going to Woolies
and being like, I need to get some tampons, but
I need to be very fucking discreet because my neighbor
might see me carrying a box of tampons in the supermarket,
like god forbid. Yeah, right, but that neighbor is also
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probably going to get the same thing because she also menstruates, right.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I know it may it makes sense, but.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think a big part of you know, learning about
our cycle like is learning to unlearn those you know,
traumas and the beliefs we have around our period being
shameful and being disgusting and being an inconvenience. And I
think that's, you know, one of the big parts of
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learning about your unique period patterns is that's a big
part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
And that's so.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
After I decided I really want to teach this to everyone,
I want to did my menstrual cycle coaching certification and
since then I've come up with a period method, which
is a you know, really simple method to teach anyone
how to live a cyclical life, how to learn your
period patterns, so that then you can go ahead and
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apply that for whatever comes up, it doesn't matter what
it is. And so that's the really important part of
it too, is that just because you learn about your
period doesn't mean it's going to fix it, right. You
have to do something about it. You have to learn
what your normal looks like. And that's why you're like,
you know, you're saying, you saw all these posts about
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the lucial phase, and you saw all these things about
how to you know, get rid of painful periods, but
maybe they didn't apply to you specifically, because although we
all have the same hormones and they you know, do
similar things in our bodies, imbalance always shows up a
different way, no matter like who we are, it shows
up in a different way because we're all different, right,
(06:54):
we all have different beliefs, we all have different stories,
we all have different ways our bodies work, we all
have different ways we.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Store our emotions.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like, there's so many elements to it, and so that's why,
you know, as you said, the one on one support
is so key in getting to that point where you're like, hey,
this isn't right, this isn't my usual period pattern. How
can I really quickly self correct here and get back
into a winement and start feeling really good again?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And the thing is it doesn't take much. That's what
I really have realized.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
My favorite things that I've learned, and like what I
think I got out of really learning my cycle was one,
working with your cycle is everything, because the second, the
second I started working with my cycle as opposed to
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just fucking working, but then constantly like shaming myself for
like why do I have such a writer's block? Why
don't I want to see people today, Why don't I
feel like doing this?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Why am I like? And I would just shame myself.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It just added like layers and layers and layers and
layers of shame, which already we're like absolutely fucking frenched in.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So it didn't help me at all.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I was constantly just shaming myself for fucking existing or
just It's like I genuinely thought that I was supposed
to be in like an ovulation sort of state of
being energetically all the time.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And that's the fault, right, That's what we're taught. That's
how we're taught.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because the world runs on a twenty four hour cycle,
which is conducive to a man's hormonal cycle, right, their
hormones reset every twenty four hours in the same secular motion,
but it's every twenty four hours, whereas us as women,
it's twenty eight days or thereabouts twenty eight days a
monthly cycle. And so all these women like, yes, power
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to women, we can do work now, we can do
all these things. But what we've done is really been
detrimental to our health in the way that we've tried
to like a immolate into society. But we've just tried
to show up as men. We haven't done it trying
to show up as women. And so that's why we're
finding I'm seeing now so many people like yourself, you know,
(09:15):
peacos burnout. Our nervous systems are absolute rex because we're
just not listening to our bodies.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And we don't know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
People don't know how to listen to their bodies because
they're told, oh, that's it's just normal to have period pain.
Just suck it up and take some neurofim right, But like, no,
it's not normal.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
It's just common. We just experienced it. So mm hmm.
The doc thinks it's normal, it's not.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And the way that like god, it shits me to tears.
I mean, this could be its own fucking podcast. The
way that the patriarchy has just created this, in the
way that like women's bodies, our women's health everything, the
fact that it's even like such a thing, at least
in Australia at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I know, in Queensland we've been lucky enough.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That we've got a pretty good women's health minister and
she's been doing a look for like we've and to
reproductive health and like just generally around women's health, and
we're like, wow, thank you, this is amazing when it's
like it shouldn't be a thing where we're sitting there
going like, oh my god, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
And the facts, please give us some breadcrambs, you.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Know literally, and and the fact that like the pill,
like we know, there's been so many of us who
have experienced horror stories from being on the pill. Yes,
it definitely has its benefits, and yes, like you know,
we at the moment, we just need what we can
as far as contraception is concerned for our autonomy.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But like where the fuck is the is the men's pill?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like there's just so many things. It fucks with our
hormones and then we end up with all these issues.
We still know nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
About our cycle. They're just like shut it down, shut
it down, shut up.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But then as soon as like our hormones are affected
and our cycles are affected and we you know, to
come in we have fertility issues, that's when they start
going oh dear, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And it's so interesting because the way that they passed
the pill was so dodgy, like they literally moved the
standard of what was safe so that they could get
the pill onto the market, and so I always just wonder, like,
would that have happened if the men that were on
that panel that approved the pill were the ones that
were going to be taking it?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And I do agree with you, Yes, the pill has
a really great place for some people, but I think
it's such this is a whole other podcast as well,
but it's prescribed so often, and actually there's a new
law in Australia which is allowing pharmacists to now prescribe
this medication to people. You can walk into a pharmacy
and get another, you know, refill of the pill, which
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is again great for some people if it's right for you.
But the thing that concerns me so much with the
pill is that women and even teenagers that are taking
the pill are not explained the adverse effects of it
and it explained what the other side of it is.
They're only shown this is what this is the gold
of the pill, this is what it's going to do
(12:13):
for you. But then there's no warning of like but
it's actually gonna shut down your entire hormonal system and
it's not going to come back online until you stop
taking the pill. So you know in twenty years when
you stop taking the pill and you want kids too bad,
so sad you've got pea corse or you've got endo
or you have all these fertility issues and so yeah,
(12:34):
I think that there's a really key education piece missing
when the pill's being prescribed like candy, Like it's just wild.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh, one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, so my story is that I was like
put on all these different pills or whatever like since
you know, like most people, when I was a teenager,
I was going in a school camp. Don't want to
get period of the school camp, so you know, that's
why we start the pill. And the doctor has no worries,
no problems. Here you go, you fourteen year old girl.
And I went on off a bunch of different ones.
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They all made me feel shit, and I was like
just trying out different ones and each time they'd sort
of give me another one, have a crack. And then
eventually I was sort of on this one for a
little while, and I'd gone back to the same doctor
to get the prescription and it would all go, you know,
it would be fine.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
They didn't care, they didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And then I went to a different doctor one time,
and she said not not with like care or anything.
It might have been a man, I can't remember, but
they said, oh, just so you know, I have to
let you know that, you know, this pill is actually
banned in every other country because it's because there's like
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it's been giving women blood cloths and women have been dying.
And I'm like, here you go, hold but yeah, but anyway,
here's this least at least they told you right literally
with like eyes rolling, I just have to tell you.
And I was like, here, hold the fuck on, and
like I know that the FDA in Australia is quite
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used behind mind you, just so everyone knows this pill
is still on the market. And then five years later,
I literally was working in a coffee shop and there
was this woman who was like coming in every day
for a while, and I was just like, you know,
I'm a chatter, so I would talk to her and
you we'd have great yaps, and eventually she said to me,
(14:32):
She's like, oh, you're probably wondering why, like I'm not
working and I'm coming in all the time, and I'm like,
to be honest, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It has not crossed my mind once.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I like, but yeah, we want to tell you the story.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm like, that's literally all I think about. I'm like,
it has consumed me. And she said, she's like, I
had a stroke, like from a blood clot that i'd
received because I was on that specific pill. I can't
remember exactly the name of it, and so I'm not
going to pretend to know, but I'm sure it would
(15:04):
take you fifteen seconds to google it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Probably not the only one to be honest exactly, so
I'm pretty sure if you look at all the side
effects on all the pill packets, they probably have that listed.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Literally, But I was just like, oh my god, And
as someone who is like you know, used to have
absolutely fine, dandy, no worries, no problems, hormones, and then
all of a sudden was taking the pill. And then
I was also with a boyfriend who like refused to
wear condoms, so I was just eating morning after.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Pills like they were like literally lollies. And I'm just like,
it makes you angry.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You're like, and I'm now still like dealing with the
effects of endo and all sorts of things. I was
told I couldn't have kids, Like there were so many
things that have gone on, and I'm still trying to
fucking sort my hormones out, and I'm like, oh, I
just wish instead. At some stage, someone like just empowered me.
They were like, hey, periods are a bad thing, or
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like you can go to a school camp and fucking
bleed and it's not the end of the world, because
we're not like, oh, my lord, that's the most shameful,
horrific thing to ever have happened, you know, like, yeah,
and it's just the lack of care of like we
don't give a fuck up about your body.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, And I think another really important element to the
pill that not a lot of people talk about, but
there was a big part of my story as well,
is you know, I was similar to you, like, oh,
I don't want my period. That's so annoying, Like let's
just get on the pill and like squash that. And
you know, took the pill, you know, did what it
was meant to. But then a couple of months later,
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I found myself back in the doctor's office, you know,
being prescribed another pill, which was any depressants. And so
the correlation between from my body anyway, between taking the
pill and my anxiety like really flaring up to the
point where it got to like a depressive stage. Is like,
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it's so obvious looking back on it, but I didn't
figure it out for a really long time. And so
it wasn't literally until I started living sicklicly that I
was able to come off the antidepressant medication. I was
off the pill like a long time ago, but the
after effects of it, the anti you know, the antidepressants,
having the anxiety and the depression like hanging over my
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head that lasted for like ten plus years after I
stopped taking the pill.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And so sorting out your cycle and learning like living
cyclically helped absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I would say it was the key factor in me
coming off.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Like my medication.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And just as a disclaimer, don't just stop your medication
because you're.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Like, that's not that's not what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I did with a doctor as well, you know, and
we weaned it off. We weaned off really safely.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But you know, like during my first pregnancy, I came
off my medication cold turkey because I didn't want to
be on medication like.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
While I was pregnant and it was really rough.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And then pretty much as soon as I had my
first I was back on the medication because as you know,
like when you become a mom, like life is freaking
crazy and you're learning who you are again, and like
all these things are happening, and so like, you know,
straight back on the medication, and I was having this
second pregnancy like and having the difference of I was
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already off the medication this time, Like I'd already learned
about being cyclical and you know, how to regulate my
mood swings and all that sort of thing, and my
nervous system that's a huge part of it as well.
And so having that experience of being like medication free
but not having the withdrawals of even.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Like the medication and things like that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
This pregnancy it was just such a different experience and
even like postpartum this time was so much nicer. And
I do I mean, I know, you know, having a
second baby, it's always going to be a little bit
different because you're a little bit more experienced, right, But
there's still a lot of things going on. There's still
a lot of hormones, are still adjusting to life as a.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Mom of two.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You know, I was thrown into ten days in NICU
with my baby unexpectedly. There was, you know, three weeks postpartuer,
I was like just looking after two kids by myself
or my support had just gone home, and I was
just sitting there like, oh fuck, I've got two humans
to look after.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But the way I was able to just go with
the flow and just allow things to be as they
were and stop trying to fight them.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I learned that through cyclic a.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Living like what you were saying, you learn to work
with your body and you stop trying to fight it.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You just go with it, and it's mumps.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It starts to bleed into not to use, literally bleed
bleed into every other sort of element of your life.
Just the concept of like working with and not against,
like when you start understanding and because I think the
other thing that I've learned with like learning my cycle
is I've and working with it is I've also realized
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that everything is cyclic. I've noticed the energy and like
you start to then when you start working with the
energy of you know, the planets and the astrological sort
of energies and then the collective energies, you know, for me,
that's sort of more what I sort of work with
and I can really see it. I see that everything
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is a cycle and like it's so fascinating. And then
instead of like trying to move through the waves and
the ups and the downs and everything else, instead of
trying to like fucking push against them and then hate
them for being there and being like this is all fucked.
Nothing's working all of a sudden when you start moving
with it and you start to really appreciate the ups
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and the downs and the lows and the highs and
recognizing that they all have a really important place, like
life does start. Your nervous system starts to just like settle,
Your life starts to settle.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You're not trying to. You are quite happy to sort
of like go with the flow a bit more.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I'm not saying it's sort of like, you know,
I'm still you know, fucking crazy in so many ways
and control.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're still a human, right, but we're not now like perfect,
but is a lot better than it was.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, exactly right. And it's just it feels like it
feels just more right.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It feels like this is how I'm meant to be living,
and this is the lens in which I'm meant to
be viewing the world. It's not like someone else has
said to you, like, this is what you should think.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You know. It's like when you do your twelve English and.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
They say to you, this is the book you're studying,
and this is what your opinion has to be to
get top marks.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
No, that's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Our bodies are our own bodies, and no one else
knows your body like you do. And I think, you know,
if you can take one thing away from this conversation
about your cycle, like, yeah, you can go google what
the hormones mean and what they're going to do in
different phases of your cycle. But it's the most important
thing you need to take away from this conversation is
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that you need to start trusting your own instincts in
your own body and start listening to it before it
gets so loud that you don't know how to fix it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
One hundred and fifty percent. And there is so much
that you can learn about yourself in learning.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
About your cycle.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Let's talk about for people who are like you know,
maybe you track your cycle, maybe you know a bit
about your cycle, or maybe you're like us and like
in your thirties and you're going, well, not us anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But us previously. And it's like, how.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Do I not know fucking anything about my body? Can
you please give us a lesson?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I always find this hard to keep short, but I
will do my best. But you are correct tracking our cycle,
as you know, track your damn cycle. It's the first
thing you need to do to start learning your period patterns.
And I'm not talking about tracking your cycle on an app.
I'm talking about getting my free tracker that you can
come and get from your Instagram. Put the link in
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the show notes. So you need to start trying on
a piece of paper. And that's because we need our
body to slow down enough to connect to our mind.
We need that mind body connection to be able to
actually check in with ourselves. How am I feeling today?
How am I checking in today? And that's the number
one first step. That's what I was just talking about.
Trusting your intuition. It's not oh, I'm on cycle day,
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you know one, and so I should be feeling this way.
That's not what we wanted to do. We don't want
to do that. We want to say first how am
I feeling in my body? And then we want to
add that layer on top what cycle day am I on?
And does that kind of match where I should be
is this my regular period pattern from my body, and
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also what's externally going on for me right now that
could also be affecting that, right because that's important too.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So that's what I want.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
To start with, is because I love giving an education,
but I don't want you to take it away and say, well,
I'm not feeling like that right now, That's fine. We
need to just learn how to call correct a little bit.
And so that's the first place to start. And I
have a freebie which I am about to launch at
the time of recording this, so I'm not sure when
we're releasing this podcast, but it's going to have a
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video on exactly what to track, how to track. It's
got five days of voice notes from me all about
you know, cycle imbalances, learning your period patterns, how to
say consistent, all those kind of things. That's jam packed
full of information. And so I'll give you the link
for that, and then you can go ahead and start
printing your own cycle trackers and start doing that, because
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that's a very important first step.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Can I just the writing down like because I did
the same thing, and I was doing the apps and
I was whatever it was kind of like, oh, I
have an idea of what's going on writing down how
you feel every day, and I noted and I realized,
and I think you said to me sort of that
first month, it's just like, oh, just that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That's it. Sort of like that's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Three months is interesting, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And because really and then but after a few months
of doing that, all of a sudden you start to realize, oh,
hold it. I felt like that last month. I felt
like that the month before. I now know exactly the
day where I basically have insomnia and I just really
stuck at sleeping, and I now just go, oh my god,
how nice is this.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I just get to enjoy fucking staying up and reading
or not.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Right, And it's like that's your period pattern for you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So you could say, like, that's on day twenty one
that I have that insomnia. Yeah, yeah, But then the
person next to you might be like, oh, but I
feel really tired that day and I sleep for like
twelve hours that day. Yes, That's what I'm saying when
I say like, yes, you can have education, but you
can never replace your own intuition.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Totally and figuring it out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And is so fucking empowering when you start to go like,
oh my god, I understand my body now.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Anyway, keep going.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Okay, so quick overview of the hormones of the menstrual cycle, right,
because obviously hormones play a huge role in how we're
feeling and you know, physically, emotionally, all those things, they're
all a big part of it. So cycle day one
is the first day of a full bleed, right, So
it's not when we're spotting. It's not like, oh maybe
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it's here, maybe it's not. It's the first day of
the full bleed. So that cycle day one. And so
when you start when you track, that's when you want
to track a cycle day one and that is so
that's such a menstruation phase.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So that's when we have our period.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And a lot of people think that this is what
I'm talking about when I talk about the menstrual cycle
is just these three to seven days when you're bleeding
and then that's it. Then you just go about your
life and then oh I got my cycle back. No,
your cycle is happening every single day, right, So this
is what we're going to talk about now. So menstrual
phase is three to seven days usually, and it's not
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specifically going to end. That phase isn't going to just
end when you stop bleeding all the time, because it's
an energetic thing as well. So I want you to
when you're cycle tracking, start paying attention to how you're feeling,
because there will be a transition day where then you
transition into the next phase, which is the follicular phase,
which I also like to refer to as in a spring.
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And so this is when we're feeling a little bit
more energetic and we're starting to you know, blossom out.
If you think about spring, the flowers are blossoming, right,
we're blossoming out of ourselves. We're starting to go a
bit more outward, getting a bit more social, a bit
more confident, a bit more creative, all those kind of things.
And so in contrast to that the menstruation phase, where
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you're very inward, you don't want to talk to people,
you're just really reflective, and you're really craving rest and
warmthed and nourishment, those two things are quite different, right,
So there's going to be like a really interesting transition
phase here in the middle of those two things. And
so what I find a lot of the time is
people go, oh, my bleed's finished, I'm just going to
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go out and start being creative and frolic in the fields. No,
it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's actually so interesting because I'm on the precipice right now,
like I've just sort of finished the bleed, but today
I'm still very like, can't be fucked being online, like
wan to talk.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
To as few people as possible. Obviously you've made the cards.
That's really great for you. Which really does feel like
that people are in that phase.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, and honestly, like, and so I think that this
is where a lot of people come undone with their
cycle health is because they try to push really hard.
And this is going back to what I said before,
because they should be feeling this way because they're not
bleeding anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But that's not how your body works.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And so really just like honoring that transition is really important.
And so after we move from the spring phase, we
move into our ovulation phase. And again, obviously ovulation is
just the releasing of the egg, right, so that doesn't
take three or so days, but the energy of ovulation
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is around about three days or so usually, and so
that's our like peak status. Like that's when we're outgoing,
we feel sexy as hell. You know, you're probably you know,
wanting to go on dates with our partners or cocktails
with the girls, or be out in the community and socializing.
Like we're really wanting to be like outward and we're
feeling really bloody good about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Literally me and my ovulation I'm like, who's that hot bitch? Also,
I just want to like basically just like bang Chris,
just like like I'm like me cocking Libido skyrocket. Yeah,
I'm like, now's your time.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
This is why it's important for partners to know our
cycles as well. Right, Yes, they need to know these
things too.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Chris loves knowing for nothing else, right, this will get
them on board one.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Hundred other way, he knows when to like not even
fucking come near me and only say nice words and
like yeah, just don't poke the bear because I will
rip your fucking head off, And then he knows when
he can just like.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Really soon they're on in.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's so true, though, And so what I want to
say for ovulation energy is just be really careful here
about any plans that you might be making, Like people
get really fucking excited in ovulation and they're like commit
to a lot of things that aren't going to be
helpful for them in the next week or two. So
you know, it's like if you ever wondered, like why
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when I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going to catch up
with all these people and I've committed to this work
task and that thing, and I'm going to do this
work presentation because you're feeling really good at the time
you commit. Yeah, but because you don't know your cycle,
you've booked that for two weeks time, right before your
period is about to come, and that's the time when
you're probably feeling the least outward in your whole entire cycle.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Right literally, So then you get there and you're like shit.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And then once you can take that a step further
and start, you know, looking at your cycle as a
whole and start living in that monthly you know turnover
instead of in the daily turnover, and start really strategically
and intentionally placing different tasks in different phases of your cycle,
you can really optimize it to set yourself up for
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like a really smooth transition. And so I guess so
for people at home who aren't really sure why I'm
carrying on about the lutill face so much. So in
the lutill phase, after our hormones hit their peak in ovulation,
what happens is all I feel good hormones, they just plummet,
they drop right off, and we're just left like, oh shit,
(31:51):
this is big void, right, Oh shit, I feel really shit.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
And so to go from.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
One extreme to the other, yeah, it's like one extreme
to the other really quickly. But they'n our great friend
progestering comes along. And so this is another thing, right,
if we're having balances and our progesterone is not really
hitting where it's meant to, it can affect us. But
our progesterone is skyrockets in this phase, and so it's
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really great hormone. It's an anti anxiety hormone. It helps
us sleep better. There's all these things that it really
helps support us with. So if you're feeling, you know,
really anxious and like trying to resist against all these
things in your you know, luteal phase, you're not sleeping
enough because we actually do need a little bit more
sleep in this phase, all those kind of things. That's
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when our body starts to be like, hey, something's not
right here, and it's going to start giving you signs that.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
It's out of balance.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So that's superior pain, that's the mood swings, that's all
those things. So this is again why it's so important
to listen and go with our body instead of trying
to resist it. But the thing about the Lout to
Your phase is actually has a second drop because a progesterone.
Once our body realizes that hey we haven't we haven't
given it a baby this cycle, it drops off because
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they don't need it anymore. So there's two really big
drops of hormones in the lot to Your phase. And
so that's why that phase can feel really rollercoaster, because
if you look at a chart of the hormones and
it literally looks like a roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right, that makes so like, just from a completely evidential,
from my life standpoint, that makes so much fucking sense.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Just the double drop, the.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Double drop, the fun one, just a completely hitch of
a double drop. I feel that every single I'm like,
why does this, why does it go forever?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Why does it feel like there's.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It is the longest phase, it's the longest phase, and
it does have those two drops, so it can feel
really hard if we're not setting ourselves up in the
other phases of our cycle for that for that phase
and for our bleed and actually in our later louteer
phase mid to late LOUTI your phase, we actually get
really productive. And I don't know if you've noticed this,
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but you probably get like similar to that nesting phase
when you're having a baby, right you want to get
all this shit done. You're really like, I'm really productive
and getting all these loose ends tied up, and like,
I don't know why I've suddenly got this big burst
of energy and I'm really like getting everything done. And
that's because your body's naturally doing that so that you
can start to lean into.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
The rest when you get to your mental phase.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, And so if you have some tasks that you've
you know, started in your inner spring that you're like
getting those creative ideas and they're really flowing, write down
the creative ideas and you're in a spring and start
to execute them. But if there's stuff that you really
want to get wrapped up, you can sort of send
that over to the luteal phase and you can start
using that productivity in that phase to get shit done.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's so like even just like rehearing all of this now,
I can already see, like because one thing I noticed
is that when I really am moving with my.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Cycle, like because it is it's like you have this like.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You know, month ish where if you're if I'm if,
I'm like, you know, flickular comes around and that is
my just like I'm so motivated, I'm so creative. I
just want to do all these things. I have all
these ideas. All of a sudden, I'm making like fifty reels,
starting a new fucking business, like releasing something new like
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who knows with me, just all sorts of shit. I'm like,
you know, forty podcast episodes. And then I get to
the ovulation phase and I'm like, wow, I'm so hot,
I'm so great, lucky me like life is amazing and
that only lasts three fucking days unfortunately, and then I
just start going into my like spiral, spiral, spiral up,
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a little bit, double spiral, second spiral, and if I
am not resting enough, because that's something that I I
struggle with, is rest and so as someone who struggles
with resting or stopping, and that's like I still struggle
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with that even though I'm like, I need to do this,
but when I do actually do it and listen to it,
my actual period hurts less. And as someone who gets
very very painful cycles and has endometriosis, that's crazy. They
are lighter, they aren't as intense. I don't feel as
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shit house just and then it like sets me up
for the next cycle. If I've within that month have
had a really emotional, crazy lots of things happening coming
up kind of month, my actual.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Period, my bleed will reflect that.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, everything about.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like it's so interesting, Like it's so fascinating to me,
even like I also find if I'm using campons instead
of a menstrual cup, I notice the difference in my
entire cycle, and then like what happens the next time,
Like just these little things that you think are so insignificant,
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but once you are like listening to your body that
dramatically all of a sudden, it's like, well, it's telling
me everything. Like it literally is just this final thing
where it's like, let's just reflect.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
On the month that we've just had.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, when you're tracking your cycle and you're really you
know your cycle really well, it narrows down what could
like what's not clicking? Where where am I like, you know,
not feeling okay, And like it gives you such an
indication of like which hormones might be out of fucking whack,
what could be possibly going on? Like that's like something
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that I've even learned so much about it. It's just helped
narrow things down.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, And it's like it's so important like to have
that information to be able to take to say like
your doctor or your specialist or your natural path or
you know, whatever you're doing as well to help you know,
balance your hormones or you know, whatever you're.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Doing with that. It's it's invaluable information for them as well.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yes, yes, on.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
What it's something that you like because we should will
start we'll start wrapping up for people. And I feel
like we could do another episode in this and we
could talk about so many more things.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
We could talk for years about it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But what is like one bit of wisdom, guidance, information,
something that you feel like you really want, not even
just women, because like I'm hoping that there will be
people listening to this who aren't bleeding and aren't menstruating
and they're learning because it's important for everyone to learn.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
What do you think is you're parting with?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Well, coming off the back of that, the thing I've
been thinking about a lot lately is how do we
break this shame and taboo cycle?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Like? How do we break that?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
How can I make sure that my kids are not
having to go through this shit storm to get to
the point where we are now, where we understand how
our bodies work on a foundational way. And I think
you know the answer is always going to be that
it starts with you. If you haven't dealt with your
own shame and trauma taboo around your cycle, you're going.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
To pass it on to your kids.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's just a fact, Like you're just going to part
That's what's going to happen if you're hiding the fact
that you bleed every month, if you're not educating your
sons that there's a such thing as a period, right, Like,
my partner was one of two three boys, and so
he had no fucking idea about what cycles were. They
were like this big mysterious thing and so like obviously
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it's very educated now, but he had no idea. And
then like then we had a daughter, and so like
God forbid anyf thing.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Happens to me, Who's going to teach her? You know?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And so I think a lot of people are wondering,
you know, how do I do that? How do I
break this cycle? And it starts with you learn it
for yourself, learn how to you know, regulate your own cycle.
For so many reasons, stop being the cranky mom. You
can stop having blaming the mood swings and you know,
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putting them out onto everyone else. You can have, you know,
a relatively pain free cycle.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
There's so many benefits to it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But the number one benefit for me is that our
children are going to just have this information to go
and do what they please with, but they're going to
have it and they're never going to feel embarrassed about
their bodies. And that's so powerful. That's like the most
powerful thing to me, not to be ashamed of our
bodies and to have the education and information around how
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they actually work.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh, Mike could not agree more.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
And that was a big reason why I was wanted
to learn, because I was like, I'm not gonna be
able to teach my kids shit because I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I don't even know for myself.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
So how on earth am I supposed to expect chrips
who also grew up in a home where they didn't
talk about it to know anything. If I don't even know,
and I grew up in a house full of girls,
how how are my kids supposed to know anything about
their bodies or his sister's bodies, or your friends or
friends or whoever's bodies if I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
So I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I think that's so important.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Well, thank you so much, Beck for coming and chatting
with me, oh the village crazy lady. Thanks for having
me or the crazies. How can people find you? I'm
gonna put everything in the show notes and all the
cycle tracker and everything, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
So just come over onto Instagram.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I'm at the period dot coach and we can yeah
chat there.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Amazing. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
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Crazy Crazy Crazy, The Village Crazy Lady Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends,
and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
This week, I have an incredible guest in who is
going to educate the shit out of us. I've got
Rebecca May, who is the period coach. We connected about
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over a year. Well it was well over a year
ago now actually a couple of years. Yes, Oh my god,
that's gone so fast. So even though I'm someone who
has grown up in a family of all girls, like
literally the eldest of four girls and only our mum
raised us, I knew absolutely fucking nothing about my cycle,
(01:11):
like literally nothing. It was a surprise every single time
my period came. I have ENDO, I have PMDD. I've
always had like so many issues around my cycle. I've
only got one fallopian tube. Like there's so much shit
going on down there, and I just was so unbelievably disconnected,
like just knew absolutely nothing. But then I started to
(01:34):
learn more about cycles and like why we should be
why we should be learning about them just because they
literally are such a significant part of our life, like
because dirt, I know, like really massive. One side had children,
but I only had like one or two periods between
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each kid because I would like get pregnant, breastfeed. I'm
one of those lucky ones who wouldn't get their period
again until i'd basically finish breastfeeding, and then I'd have
like two periods and then I'd fall pregnant again.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And I just did that a few times.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Once I had.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That was just my life for like, you know, a
bunch of years. And then I once.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
I had Woody, I was like so excited.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
To get my period back because I was like, this
is it, Like because I was like, there's no fucking
way I'm having more children, like I'm absolutely done and dusted,
like sew me up, no, thank you, like sent Chris
off to get nuted, and we were like, you know,
absolutely not. And I was like, once I get my
period back, and by this time we'd connected we chatted.
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I'd learned a fair bit from you. I was so
interested in, like everything that you had to teach, And
I said to myself, the second I get my period back,
I'm working with you one on one because I just
want to really fucking learn and understand my cycle. So
let's fucking talk about it. For status Beck, what got
(03:09):
you into it? Like, what made you so passionate about
learning about cycles?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So I originally was really interested in my cycle, similar
to you.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
After the birth of my first baby, Olive.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I got my cycle back at around ten months postpartum,
and something inside me was just like, I feel like
I need to explore this deeper. And so I actively
went out and started seeking information about this thing I'd
heard of cord cyclic a living and I got all
the information I could and started applying it to myself,
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and I found that it just changed my entire life, literally,
like it made me a better person, It made me
a better mother, and made me feel so grounded in
you know, that first year of post pardon when life
is just so crazy and like you're just learning so
much about yourself.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And so it was just something that I.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Felt this deep calling, like I need to share this
with as many people as possible, because why are we
not learning this already? Like why do I Why am
I nearly thirty? I was like, I think twenty eight
or something like that at the time. Why am I
nearly thirty? And I'm literally just learning how the foundational
elements of my body work.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
It is literally wild insane.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
The fact that it's not like taught to us day
dot yeah, is crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Like it's literally how we work.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
It is the thing that keeps the world literally going
and keeps the world populated. And yet we're just like
sneaking tampons like into bathrooms with shame, just like it's wild.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Yeah, And that's a big part of it too, I think,
is you know, the shame and trauma that we're still
working through. Like I remember being like going to Woolies
and being like, I need to get some tampons, but
I need to be very fucking discreet because my neighbor
might see me carrying a box of tampons in the supermarket,
like god forbid. Yeah, right, but that neighbor is also
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probably going to get the same thing because she also menstruates, right.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I know it may it makes sense, but.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I think a big part of you know, learning about
our cycle like is learning to unlearn those you know,
traumas and the beliefs we have around our period being
shameful and being disgusting and being an inconvenience. And I
think that's, you know, one of the big parts of
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learning about your unique period patterns is that's a big
part of it.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
And that's so.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
After I decided I really want to teach this to everyone,
I want to did my menstrual cycle coaching certification and
since then I've come up with a period method, which
is a you know, really simple method to teach anyone
how to live a cyclical life, how to learn your
period patterns, so that then you can go ahead and
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apply that for whatever comes up, it doesn't matter what
it is. And so that's the really important part of
it too, is that just because you learn about your
period doesn't mean it's going to fix it, right. You
have to do something about it. You have to learn
what your normal looks like. And that's why you're like,
you know, you're saying, you saw all these posts about
(06:32):
the lucial phase, and you saw all these things about
how to you know, get rid of painful periods, but
maybe they didn't apply to you specifically, because although we
all have the same hormones and they you know, do
similar things in our bodies, imbalance always shows up a
different way, no matter like who we are, it shows
up in a different way because we're all different, right,
(06:54):
we all have different beliefs, we all have different stories,
we all have different ways our bodies work, we all
have different ways we.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Store our emotions.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like, there's so many elements to it, and so that's why,
you know, as you said, the one on one support
is so key in getting to that point where you're like, hey,
this isn't right, this isn't my usual period pattern. How
can I really quickly self correct here and get back
into a winement and start feeling really good again?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
And the thing is it doesn't take much. That's what
I really have realized.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
My favorite things that I've learned, and like what I
think I got out of really learning my cycle was one,
working with your cycle is everything, because the second, the
second I started working with my cycle as opposed to
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just fucking working, but then constantly like shaming myself for
like why do I have such a writer's block? Why
don't I want to see people today, Why don't I
feel like doing this?
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Why am I like? And I would just shame myself.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It just added like layers and layers and layers and
layers of shame, which already we're like absolutely fucking frenched in.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
So it didn't help me at all.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I was constantly just shaming myself for fucking existing or
just It's like I genuinely thought that I was supposed
to be in like an ovulation sort of state of
being energetically all the time.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
And that's the fault, right, That's what we're taught. That's
how we're taught.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Because the world runs on a twenty four hour cycle,
which is conducive to a man's hormonal cycle, right, their
hormones reset every twenty four hours in the same secular motion,
but it's every twenty four hours, whereas us as women,
it's twenty eight days or thereabouts twenty eight days a
monthly cycle. And so all these women like, yes, power
(08:55):
to women, we can do work now, we can do
all these things. But what we've done is really been
detrimental to our health in the way that we've tried
to like a immolate into society. But we've just tried
to show up as men. We haven't done it trying
to show up as women. And so that's why we're
finding I'm seeing now so many people like yourself, you know,
(09:15):
peacos burnout. Our nervous systems are absolute rex because we're
just not listening to our bodies.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
And we don't know how to do it.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
People don't know how to listen to their bodies because
they're told, oh, that's it's just normal to have period pain.
Just suck it up and take some neurofim right, But like, no,
it's not normal.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
It's just common. We just experienced it. So mm hmm.
The doc thinks it's normal, it's not.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
And the way that like god, it shits me to tears.
I mean, this could be its own fucking podcast. The
way that the patriarchy has just created this, in the
way that like women's bodies, our women's health everything, the
fact that it's even like such a thing, at least
in Australia at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I know, in Queensland we've been lucky enough.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
That we've got a pretty good women's health minister and
she's been doing a look for like we've and to
reproductive health and like just generally around women's health, and
we're like, wow, thank you, this is amazing when it's
like it shouldn't be a thing where we're sitting there
going like, oh my god, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
And the facts, please give us some breadcrambs, you.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Know literally, and and the fact that like the pill,
like we know, there's been so many of us who
have experienced horror stories from being on the pill. Yes,
it definitely has its benefits, and yes, like you know,
we at the moment, we just need what we can
as far as contraception is concerned for our autonomy.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
But like where the fuck is the is the men's pill?
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Like there's just so many things. It fucks with our
hormones and then we end up with all these issues.
We still know nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
About our cycle. They're just like shut it down, shut
it down, shut up.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
But then as soon as like our hormones are affected
and our cycles are affected and we you know, to
come in we have fertility issues, that's when they start
going oh dear, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
And it's so interesting because the way that they passed
the pill was so dodgy, like they literally moved the
standard of what was safe so that they could get
the pill onto the market, and so I always just wonder, like,
would that have happened if the men that were on
that panel that approved the pill were the ones that
were going to be taking it?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Right?
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And I do agree with you, Yes, the pill has
a really great place for some people, but I think
it's such this is a whole other podcast as well,
but it's prescribed so often, and actually there's a new
law in Australia which is allowing pharmacists to now prescribe
this medication to people. You can walk into a pharmacy
and get another, you know, refill of the pill, which
(11:52):
is again great for some people if it's right for you.
But the thing that concerns me so much with the
pill is that women and even teenagers that are taking
the pill are not explained the adverse effects of it
and it explained what the other side of it is.
They're only shown this is what this is the gold
of the pill, this is what it's going to do
(12:13):
for you. But then there's no warning of like but
it's actually gonna shut down your entire hormonal system and
it's not going to come back online until you stop
taking the pill. So you know in twenty years when
you stop taking the pill and you want kids too bad,
so sad you've got pea corse or you've got endo
or you have all these fertility issues and so yeah,
(12:34):
I think that there's a really key education piece missing
when the pill's being prescribed like candy, Like it's just wild.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh, one hundred percent agree.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I mean, so my story is that I was like
put on all these different pills or whatever like since
you know, like most people, when I was a teenager,
I was going in a school camp. Don't want to
get period of the school camp, so you know, that's
why we start the pill. And the doctor has no worries,
no problems. Here you go, you fourteen year old girl.
And I went on off a bunch of different ones.
(13:07):
They all made me feel shit, and I was like
just trying out different ones and each time they'd sort
of give me another one, have a crack. And then
eventually I was sort of on this one for a
little while, and I'd gone back to the same doctor
to get the prescription and it would all go, you know,
it would be fine.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
They didn't care, they didn't give a shit.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
And then I went to a different doctor one time,
and she said not not with like care or anything.
It might have been a man, I can't remember, but
they said, oh, just so you know, I have to
let you know that, you know, this pill is actually
banned in every other country because it's because there's like
(13:47):
it's been giving women blood cloths and women have been dying.
And I'm like, here you go, hold but yeah, but anyway,
here's this least at least they told you right literally
with like eyes rolling, I just have to tell you.
And I was like, here, hold the fuck on, and
like I know that the FDA in Australia is quite
(14:09):
used behind mind you, just so everyone knows this pill
is still on the market. And then five years later,
I literally was working in a coffee shop and there
was this woman who was like coming in every day
for a while, and I was just like, you know,
I'm a chatter, so I would talk to her and
you we'd have great yaps, and eventually she said to me,
(14:32):
She's like, oh, you're probably wondering why, like I'm not
working and I'm coming in all the time, and I'm like,
to be honest, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It has not crossed my mind once.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
I like, but yeah, we want to tell you the story.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I'm like, that's literally all I think about. I'm like,
it has consumed me. And she said, she's like, I
had a stroke, like from a blood clot that i'd
received because I was on that specific pill. I can't
remember exactly the name of it, and so I'm not
going to pretend to know, but I'm sure it would
(15:04):
take you fifteen seconds to google it.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
And I was.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Probably not the only one to be honest exactly, so
I'm pretty sure if you look at all the side
effects on all the pill packets, they probably have that listed.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Literally, But I was just like, oh my god, And
as someone who is like you know, used to have
absolutely fine, dandy, no worries, no problems, hormones, and then
all of a sudden was taking the pill. And then
I was also with a boyfriend who like refused to
wear condoms, so I was just eating morning after.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Pills like they were like literally lollies. And I'm just like,
it makes you angry.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You're like, and I'm now still like dealing with the
effects of endo and all sorts of things. I was
told I couldn't have kids, Like there were so many
things that have gone on, and I'm still trying to
fucking sort my hormones out, and I'm like, oh, I
just wish instead. At some stage, someone like just empowered me.
They were like, hey, periods are a bad thing, or
(16:00):
like you can go to a school camp and fucking
bleed and it's not the end of the world, because
we're not like, oh, my lord, that's the most shameful,
horrific thing to ever have happened, you know, like, yeah,
and it's just the lack of care of like we
don't give a fuck up about your body.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, And I think another really important element to the
pill that not a lot of people talk about, but
there was a big part of my story as well,
is you know, I was similar to you, like, oh,
I don't want my period. That's so annoying, Like let's
just get on the pill and like squash that. And
you know, took the pill, you know, did what it
was meant to. But then a couple of months later,
(16:37):
I found myself back in the doctor's office, you know,
being prescribed another pill, which was any depressants. And so
the correlation between from my body anyway, between taking the
pill and my anxiety like really flaring up to the
point where it got to like a depressive stage. Is like,
(16:58):
it's so obvious looking back on it, but I didn't
figure it out for a really long time. And so
it wasn't literally until I started living sicklicly that I
was able to come off the antidepressant medication. I was
off the pill like a long time ago, but the
after effects of it, the anti you know, the antidepressants,
having the anxiety and the depression like hanging over my
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head that lasted for like ten plus years after I
stopped taking the pill.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
And so sorting out your cycle and learning like living
cyclically helped absolutely.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I would say it was the key factor in me
coming off.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Like my medication.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And just as a disclaimer, don't just stop your medication
because you're.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Like, that's not that's not what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I did with a doctor as well, you know, and
we weaned it off. We weaned off really safely.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
But you know, like during my first pregnancy, I came
off my medication cold turkey because I didn't want to
be on medication like.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
While I was pregnant and it was really rough.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
And then pretty much as soon as I had my
first I was back on the medication because as you know,
like when you become a mom, like life is freaking
crazy and you're learning who you are again, and like
all these things are happening, and so like, you know,
straight back on the medication, and I was having this
second pregnancy like and having the difference of I was
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already off the medication this time, Like I'd already learned
about being cyclical and you know, how to regulate my
mood swings and all that sort of thing, and my
nervous system that's a huge part of it as well.
And so having that experience of being like medication free
but not having the withdrawals of even.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
Like the medication and things like that.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
This pregnancy it was just such a different experience and
even like postpartum this time was so much nicer. And
I do I mean, I know, you know, having a
second baby, it's always going to be a little bit
different because you're a little bit more experienced, right, But
there's still a lot of things going on. There's still
a lot of hormones, are still adjusting to life as a.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Mom of two.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
You know, I was thrown into ten days in NICU
with my baby unexpectedly. There was, you know, three weeks postpartuer,
I was like just looking after two kids by myself
or my support had just gone home, and I was
just sitting there like, oh fuck, I've got two humans
to look after.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
But the way I was able to just go with
the flow and just allow things to be as they
were and stop trying to fight them.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
I learned that through cyclic a.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Living like what you were saying, you learn to work
with your body and you stop trying to fight it.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
You just go with it, and it's mumps.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
It starts to bleed into not to use, literally bleed
bleed into every other sort of element of your life.
Just the concept of like working with and not against,
like when you start understanding and because I think the
other thing that I've learned with like learning my cycle
is I've and working with it is I've also realized
(20:02):
that everything is cyclic. I've noticed the energy and like
you start to then when you start working with the
energy of you know, the planets and the astrological sort
of energies and then the collective energies, you know, for me,
that's sort of more what I sort of work with
and I can really see it. I see that everything
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is a cycle and like it's so fascinating. And then
instead of like trying to move through the waves and
the ups and the downs and everything else, instead of
trying to like fucking push against them and then hate
them for being there and being like this is all fucked.
Nothing's working all of a sudden when you start moving
with it and you start to really appreciate the ups
(20:44):
and the downs and the lows and the highs and
recognizing that they all have a really important place, like
life does start. Your nervous system starts to just like settle,
Your life starts to settle.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
You're not trying to. You are quite happy to sort
of like go with the flow a bit more.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And I'm not saying it's sort of like, you know,
I'm still you know, fucking crazy in so many ways
and control.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
You're still a human, right, but we're not now like perfect,
but is a lot better than it was.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yeah, exactly right. And it's just it feels like it
feels just more right.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It feels like this is how I'm meant to be living,
and this is the lens in which I'm meant to
be viewing the world. It's not like someone else has
said to you, like, this is what you should think.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
You know. It's like when you do your twelve English and.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
They say to you, this is the book you're studying,
and this is what your opinion has to be to
get top marks.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
No, that's not how it works.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Our bodies are our own bodies, and no one else
knows your body like you do. And I think, you know,
if you can take one thing away from this conversation
about your cycle, like, yeah, you can go google what
the hormones mean and what they're going to do in
different phases of your cycle. But it's the most important
thing you need to take away from this conversation is
(22:02):
that you need to start trusting your own instincts in
your own body and start listening to it before it
gets so loud that you don't know how to fix it.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
One hundred and fifty percent. And there is so much
that you can learn about yourself in learning.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
About your cycle.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Let's talk about for people who are like you know,
maybe you track your cycle, maybe you know a bit
about your cycle, or maybe you're like us and like
in your thirties and you're going, well, not us anymore.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But us previously. And it's like, how.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Do I not know fucking anything about my body? Can
you please give us a lesson?
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I always find this hard to keep short, but I
will do my best. But you are correct tracking our cycle,
as you know, track your damn cycle. It's the first
thing you need to do to start learning your period patterns.
And I'm not talking about tracking your cycle on an app.
I'm talking about getting my free tracker that you can
come and get from your Instagram. Put the link in
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the show notes. So you need to start trying on
a piece of paper. And that's because we need our
body to slow down enough to connect to our mind.
We need that mind body connection to be able to
actually check in with ourselves. How am I feeling today?
How am I checking in today? And that's the number
one first step. That's what I was just talking about.
Trusting your intuition. It's not oh, I'm on cycle day,
(23:26):
you know one, and so I should be feeling this way.
That's not what we wanted to do. We don't want
to do that. We want to say first how am
I feeling in my body? And then we want to
add that layer on top what cycle day am I on?
And does that kind of match where I should be
is this my regular period pattern from my body, and
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also what's externally going on for me right now that
could also be affecting that, right because that's important too.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
So that's what I want.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
To start with, is because I love giving an education,
but I don't want you to take it away and say, well,
I'm not feeling like that right now, That's fine. We
need to just learn how to call correct a little bit.
And so that's the first place to start. And I
have a freebie which I am about to launch at
the time of recording this, so I'm not sure when
we're releasing this podcast, but it's going to have a
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video on exactly what to track, how to track. It's
got five days of voice notes from me all about
you know, cycle imbalances, learning your period patterns, how to
say consistent, all those kind of things. That's jam packed
full of information. And so I'll give you the link
for that, and then you can go ahead and start
printing your own cycle trackers and start doing that, because
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that's a very important first step.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Can I just the writing down like because I did
the same thing, and I was doing the apps and
I was whatever it was kind of like, oh, I
have an idea of what's going on writing down how
you feel every day, and I noted and I realized,
and I think you said to me sort of that
first month, it's just like, oh, just that's really interesting.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
That's it. Sort of like that's really interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Three months is interesting, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
And because really and then but after a few months
of doing that, all of a sudden you start to realize, oh,
hold it. I felt like that last month. I felt
like that the month before. I now know exactly the
day where I basically have insomnia and I just really
stuck at sleeping, and I now just go, oh my god,
how nice is this.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
I just get to enjoy fucking staying up and reading
or not.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Right, And it's like that's your period pattern for you.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
So you could say, like, that's on day twenty one
that I have that insomnia. Yeah, yeah, But then the
person next to you might be like, oh, but I
feel really tired that day and I sleep for like
twelve hours that day. Yes, That's what I'm saying when
I say like, yes, you can have education, but you
can never replace your own intuition.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Totally and figuring it out for yourself.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
And is so fucking empowering when you start to go like,
oh my god, I understand my body now.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Anyway, keep going.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Okay, so quick overview of the hormones of the menstrual cycle, right,
because obviously hormones play a huge role in how we're
feeling and you know, physically, emotionally, all those things, they're
all a big part of it. So cycle day one
is the first day of a full bleed, right, So
it's not when we're spotting. It's not like, oh maybe
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it's here, maybe it's not. It's the first day of
the full bleed. So that cycle day one. And so
when you start when you track, that's when you want
to track a cycle day one and that is so
that's such a menstruation phase.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So that's when we have our period.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
And a lot of people think that this is what
I'm talking about when I talk about the menstrual cycle
is just these three to seven days when you're bleeding
and then that's it. Then you just go about your
life and then oh I got my cycle back. No,
your cycle is happening every single day, right, So this
is what we're going to talk about now. So menstrual
phase is three to seven days usually, and it's not
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specifically going to end. That phase isn't going to just
end when you stop bleeding all the time, because it's
an energetic thing as well. So I want you to
when you're cycle tracking, start paying attention to how you're feeling,
because there will be a transition day where then you
transition into the next phase, which is the follicular phase,
which I also like to refer to as in a spring.
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And so this is when we're feeling a little bit
more energetic and we're starting to you know, blossom out.
If you think about spring, the flowers are blossoming, right,
we're blossoming out of ourselves. We're starting to go a
bit more outward, getting a bit more social, a bit
more confident, a bit more creative, all those kind of things.
And so in contrast to that the menstruation phase, where
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you're very inward, you don't want to talk to people,
you're just really reflective, and you're really craving rest and
warmthed and nourishment, those two things are quite different, right,
So there's going to be like a really interesting transition
phase here in the middle of those two things. And
so what I find a lot of the time is
people go, oh, my bleed's finished, I'm just going to
(28:04):
go out and start being creative and frolic in the fields. No,
it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
It's actually so interesting because I'm on the precipice right now,
like I've just sort of finished the bleed, but today
I'm still very like, can't be fucked being online, like
wan to talk.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
To as few people as possible. Obviously you've made the cards.
That's really great for you. Which really does feel like
that people are in that phase.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, and honestly, like, and so I think that this
is where a lot of people come undone with their
cycle health is because they try to push really hard.
And this is going back to what I said before,
because they should be feeling this way because they're not
bleeding anymore.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
But that's not how your body works.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And so really just like honoring that transition is really important.
And so after we move from the spring phase, we
move into our ovulation phase. And again, obviously ovulation is
just the releasing of the egg, right, so that doesn't
take three or so days, but the energy of ovulation
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is around about three days or so usually, and so
that's our like peak status. Like that's when we're outgoing,
we feel sexy as hell. You know, you're probably you know,
wanting to go on dates with our partners or cocktails
with the girls, or be out in the community and socializing.
Like we're really wanting to be like outward and we're
feeling really bloody good about ourselves.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Literally me and my ovulation I'm like, who's that hot bitch? Also,
I just want to like basically just like bang Chris,
just like like I'm like me cocking Libido skyrocket. Yeah,
I'm like, now's your time.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
This is why it's important for partners to know our
cycles as well. Right, Yes, they need to know these
things too.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Chris loves knowing for nothing else, right, this will get
them on board one.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Hundred other way, he knows when to like not even
fucking come near me and only say nice words and
like yeah, just don't poke the bear because I will
rip your fucking head off, And then he knows when
he can just like.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Really soon they're on in.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's so true, though, And so what I want to
say for ovulation energy is just be really careful here
about any plans that you might be making, Like people
get really fucking excited in ovulation and they're like commit
to a lot of things that aren't going to be
helpful for them in the next week or two. So
you know, it's like if you ever wondered, like why
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when I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going to catch up
with all these people and I've committed to this work
task and that thing, and I'm going to do this
work presentation because you're feeling really good at the time
you commit. Yeah, but because you don't know your cycle,
you've booked that for two weeks time, right before your
period is about to come, and that's the time when
you're probably feeling the least outward in your whole entire cycle.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
Right literally, So then you get there and you're like shit.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
And then once you can take that a step further
and start, you know, looking at your cycle as a
whole and start living in that monthly you know turnover
instead of in the daily turnover, and start really strategically
and intentionally placing different tasks in different phases of your cycle,
you can really optimize it to set yourself up for
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like a really smooth transition. And so I guess so
for people at home who aren't really sure why I'm
carrying on about the lutill face so much. So in
the lutill phase, after our hormones hit their peak in ovulation,
what happens is all I feel good hormones, they just plummet,
they drop right off, and we're just left like, oh shit,
(31:51):
this is big void, right, Oh shit, I feel really shit.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
And so to go from.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
One extreme to the other, yeah, it's like one extreme
to the other really quickly. But they'n our great friend
progestering comes along. And so this is another thing, right,
if we're having balances and our progesterone is not really
hitting where it's meant to, it can affect us. But
our progesterone is skyrockets in this phase, and so it's
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really great hormone. It's an anti anxiety hormone. It helps
us sleep better. There's all these things that it really
helps support us with. So if you're feeling, you know,
really anxious and like trying to resist against all these
things in your you know, luteal phase, you're not sleeping
enough because we actually do need a little bit more
sleep in this phase, all those kind of things. That's
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when our body starts to be like, hey, something's not
right here, and it's going to start giving you signs that.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
It's out of balance.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
So that's superior pain, that's the mood swings, that's all
those things. So this is again why it's so important
to listen and go with our body instead of trying
to resist it. But the thing about the Lout to
Your phase is actually has a second drop because a progesterone.
Once our body realizes that hey we haven't we haven't
given it a baby this cycle, it drops off because
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they don't need it anymore. So there's two really big
drops of hormones in the lot to Your phase. And
so that's why that phase can feel really rollercoaster, because
if you look at a chart of the hormones and
it literally looks like a roller coaster.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Right, that makes so like, just from a completely evidential,
from my life standpoint, that makes so much fucking sense.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Just the double drop, the.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Double drop, the fun one, just a completely hitch of
a double drop. I feel that every single I'm like,
why does this, why does it go forever?
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Why does it feel like there's.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
It is the longest phase, it's the longest phase, and
it does have those two drops, so it can feel
really hard if we're not setting ourselves up in the
other phases of our cycle for that for that phase
and for our bleed and actually in our later louteer
phase mid to late LOUTI your phase, we actually get
really productive. And I don't know if you've noticed this,
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but you probably get like similar to that nesting phase
when you're having a baby, right you want to get
all this shit done. You're really like, I'm really productive
and getting all these loose ends tied up, and like,
I don't know why I've suddenly got this big burst
of energy and I'm really like getting everything done. And
that's because your body's naturally doing that so that you
can start to lean into.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
The rest when you get to your mental phase.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, And so if you have some tasks that you've
you know, started in your inner spring that you're like
getting those creative ideas and they're really flowing, write down
the creative ideas and you're in a spring and start
to execute them. But if there's stuff that you really
want to get wrapped up, you can sort of send
that over to the luteal phase and you can start
using that productivity in that phase to get shit done.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
It's so like even just like rehearing all of this now,
I can already see, like because one thing I noticed
is that when I really am moving with my.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Cycle, like because it is it's like you have this like.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You know, month ish where if you're if I'm if,
I'm like, you know, flickular comes around and that is
my just like I'm so motivated, I'm so creative. I
just want to do all these things. I have all
these ideas. All of a sudden, I'm making like fifty reels,
starting a new fucking business, like releasing something new like
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who knows with me, just all sorts of shit. I'm like,
you know, forty podcast episodes. And then I get to
the ovulation phase and I'm like, wow, I'm so hot,
I'm so great, lucky me like life is amazing and
that only lasts three fucking days unfortunately, and then I
just start going into my like spiral, spiral, spiral up,
(35:54):
a little bit, double spiral, second spiral, and if I
am not resting enough, because that's something that I I
struggle with, is rest and so as someone who struggles
with resting or stopping, and that's like I still struggle
(36:15):
with that even though I'm like, I need to do this,
but when I do actually do it and listen to it,
my actual period hurts less. And as someone who gets
very very painful cycles and has endometriosis, that's crazy. They
are lighter, they aren't as intense. I don't feel as
(36:37):
shit house just and then it like sets me up
for the next cycle. If I've within that month have
had a really emotional, crazy lots of things happening coming
up kind of month, my actual.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Period, my bleed will reflect that.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Yeah, everything about.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Like it's so interesting, Like it's so fascinating to me,
even like I also find if I'm using campons instead
of a menstrual cup, I notice the difference in my
entire cycle, and then like what happens the next time,
Like just these little things that you think are so insignificant,
(37:17):
but once you are like listening to your body that
dramatically all of a sudden, it's like, well, it's telling
me everything. Like it literally is just this final thing
where it's like, let's just reflect.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
On the month that we've just had.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah, when you're tracking your cycle and you're really you
know your cycle really well, it narrows down what could
like what's not clicking? Where where am I like, you know,
not feeling okay, And like it gives you such an
indication of like which hormones might be out of fucking whack,
what could be possibly going on? Like that's like something
(37:55):
that I've even learned so much about it. It's just helped
narrow things down.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, And it's like it's so important like to have
that information to be able to take to say like
your doctor or your specialist or your natural path or
you know, whatever you're doing as well to help you know,
balance your hormones or you know, whatever you're.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
Doing with that. It's it's invaluable information for them as well.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yes, yes, on.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
What it's something that you like because we should will
start we'll start wrapping up for people. And I feel
like we could do another episode in this and we
could talk about so many more things.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
We could talk for years about it.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
But what is like one bit of wisdom, guidance, information,
something that you feel like you really want, not even
just women, because like I'm hoping that there will be
people listening to this who aren't bleeding and aren't menstruating
and they're learning because it's important for everyone to learn.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
What do you think is you're parting with?
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Well, coming off the back of that, the thing I've
been thinking about a lot lately is how do we
break this shame and taboo cycle?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Like? How do we break that?
Speaker 1 (39:11):
How can I make sure that my kids are not
having to go through this shit storm to get to
the point where we are now, where we understand how
our bodies work on a foundational way. And I think
you know the answer is always going to be that
it starts with you. If you haven't dealt with your
own shame and trauma taboo around your cycle, you're going.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
To pass it on to your kids.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
It's just a fact, Like you're just going to part
That's what's going to happen if you're hiding the fact
that you bleed every month, if you're not educating your
sons that there's a such thing as a period, right, Like,
my partner was one of two three boys, and so
he had no fucking idea about what cycles were. They
were like this big mysterious thing and so like obviously
(39:57):
it's very educated now, but he had no idea. And
then like then we had a daughter, and so like
God forbid anyf thing.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
Happens to me, Who's going to teach her? You know?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
And so I think a lot of people are wondering,
you know, how do I do that? How do I
break this cycle? And it starts with you learn it
for yourself, learn how to you know, regulate your own cycle.
For so many reasons, stop being the cranky mom. You
can stop having blaming the mood swings and you know,
(40:31):
putting them out onto everyone else. You can have, you know,
a relatively pain free cycle.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
There's so many benefits to it.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
But the number one benefit for me is that our
children are going to just have this information to go
and do what they please with, but they're going to
have it and they're never going to feel embarrassed about
their bodies. And that's so powerful. That's like the most
powerful thing to me, not to be ashamed of our
bodies and to have the education and information around how
(41:02):
they actually work.
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Oh, Mike could not agree more.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
And that was a big reason why I was wanted
to learn, because I was like, I'm not gonna be
able to teach my kids shit because I have no idea.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I don't even know for myself.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
So how on earth am I supposed to expect chrips
who also grew up in a home where they didn't
talk about it to know anything. If I don't even know,
and I grew up in a house full of girls,
how how are my kids supposed to know anything about
their bodies or his sister's bodies, or your friends or
friends or whoever's bodies if I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
So I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I think that's so important.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Well, thank you so much, Beck for coming and chatting
with me, oh the village crazy lady. Thanks for having
me or the crazies. How can people find you? I'm
gonna put everything in the show notes and all the
cycle tracker and everything, but yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
So just come over onto Instagram.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I'm at the period dot coach and we can yeah
chat there.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Amazing. Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Bye bye bye
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