September 22, 2024 • 43 mins
Brigit Esselmont is an intuitive entrepreneur and best-selling author of Everyday Tarot, as well as the founder of Biddy Tarot, a seven-figure business that has empowered millions worldwide to trust their intuition and access their inner power. Brigit talks to Mikki about how we can use tarot to make decisions about our future, manifest and grow your business.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Mickie Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Crazy Crazy Crazy The Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends,
and welcome to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I am so excited about this guest.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Bridget Essalmont, is an intuitive entrepreneur, a best selling author,
and founder of Bitty Tarot. I have had your tarot
cards for years, and I've known about you and what you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Do for years. How did you get into taro?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, so it goes all the way back to the
late nineteen ninety and this is when I just finished
high school and I was going on an exchange to
Germany with my best friend and we thought, oh, why
don't we go and get a tower reading before we
go to Germany. And so we found this little place
in the Rocks in Sydney and we're walking up these
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creaky wooden stairs and starting to feel all very mysterious
and a little bit spooky. And I walk into this
dark room. This woman's like sitting there in the corner
with her cards laid out in front of her, and
I was like, oh my gosh, what am I getting
myself into? But I sat down with her and asked her, like,
what's going to happen when I go to Germany? And
she starts pulling the cards and then she pulls the Emperor.
(01:46):
She goes, ooh, you're going to fall in love, like
there's his boyfriend. He's waiting for you. It's going to
be amazing. And so, you know, I'm seventeen years old,
I'm like, oh, that sounds fantastic. Probably tell us to everyone,
but hey, I'll buy into it. And then yeah, of
course I go to Germany. I fall in love a
few times and it was great done. And so then
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like that, I came back to Australia and I thought, wow,
this is pretty cool. I'd love to learn how to
do this and I could show off to my friends
this like cool trick. But here's the thing. I've got
my tarot cards. My mum gifted them to me. I
started learning them, and then the more that I learned
about the Taro, the more I realized that they were
actually a really profound tool for transformation and for accessing intuition.
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It was so different to what I've seen like on movies,
which was all about like fortune telling and mystery and
you know, bad things happening. It was completely different to that.
It was actually this really beautiful experience that I was
having with the cards, and it was opening up all
of these parts of myself that had been there for
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so long, like the spiritual aspects, the connection to the divine,
connection to self and intuition, and it was all just
like opening up as it's laid out there on the
table in front of me.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
In what way can you explain? Because that's so interesting
to me. I mean, I don't think I've ever really
thought about it like that, Like, in what way did
it sort of like reveal this part of you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah. So, Like one of the things that I thought
before I started reading Taro was I had to be
psychic in order to read Taro. I needed to be
able to see like speak to dead people. I had
to see the future like perfectly. And I really thought
that I needed to have these specific skills and gifts
in order to be able to read Taro. And so
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when I started reading Taro, I did everything I could
to like master it, master my psychic abilities. But over
time I started to realize this actually isn't about like wrote,
learning the cards. It's not like what I was doing
at school and university and trying to read all of
the books. This was actually something that needed to be
felt and experienced. So then the more that I let
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my intuition come into play, the more I could see
what was unfolding in the cards. So it actually turned
out that instead of having to be psychic and gifted
and so on to read Taro, the Taro itself was
the thing that was helping me become more intuitive. Because
if you think about Taro cards, it's seventy eight cards.
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Every card has this picture on it, It has this
rich symbolism, you know, different stories, mythology, even connections to
religion and other spiritual kind of philosophies. And when we're
reading these cards, it's almost giving us direct access to
this collective wisdom that's been created over time, but also
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to this individual wisdom that's our intuition and what's within ourselves.
And so when we access Taro, were actually accessing these
different parts of and wisdom, that collective wisdom and our
inner wisdom, and that to me is just amazing and
so powerful.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I love that cards are probably I guess when people
think about spirituality right and like you know, delving into
their own spirituality. I know, for me, cards was like
one of the first places I went because it's a tool,
it's a really helpful, very fun as well, like it
doesn't feel scary. There's nothing really about although unless like
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if you're doing Taro for the first time and you
see like the death card or the tower or something
come out and you're like, oh my fucking god, am
I about to die? But outside of that, it's just
like it's a fun almost like party game me kind
of feeling. But I can understand like that the sort
of how it helps you do a lot of healing
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and a lot of sort of like revealing of yourself
because I look back to sort of when I first
started using them, and even when I use them now,
like a lot of my intention when I'm sort of
pulling a card, I'm like, what do I What am
I needing?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What am I not seeing right now? What am I?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And it really is that like oh, okay, this is
what I need to be working on in my life. Well, like,
this is where I sort of like need to be
my attention needs to go. Well, I never even realized
that I was doing that. It really does like access
this very like intuitive subconscious part of you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's that's what I love about it
because you know, even when we do like personal growth
and development, if we only do that from a place
of thinking it and what's in our conscious mind, we're
really only tapping into part of it. We're not tapping
into this full spectrum. But what Taro helps us to
do is to access more of our subconscious and what's
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really happening, you know, underneath the surface. And when we
access more of that subconscious part, then we start to
reveal so much more than if it's inner conscious mind
and all of that happens because again, Taro cards are
so visual, they're so symbolic, so it helps to bypass
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the conscious mind and it helps us drop into subconscious
where really like that is where the bulk of you know,
who we are actually lies. There's only a tiny little
fraction that's up there in our conscious minds.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Before we move on to like the manifestation of it all.
Let's talk I would love to chat about Like for
people who are listening and they're like, I really want
to use taro, how would you recommend people even get
into it or start using it or you know, because
I think for a lot of people, it feels a
bit like you'd need, you know, to go and read
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like fifteen books or do a course or something on
how to use them.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and I totally get it. That's kind of why
I haven't. I have like about three books on astrology.
Every time I go to read them, I'm like, oh,
it's too much. I don't remember all this.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I feel like that too about astrology.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, and you know, I had that feeling about taro
when I first started, because I was like, holy moly,
how on earth do you remember seventy eight tarot cards
and what they mean? Like if you pick up any book,
there's like literally pages and pages on every card, and
then you think, oh, gosh, I've got to like memorize
all this stuff. But again, what I learned over time
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was that that's actually really only one way of going
about learning taro. The other way is to experience taro
through more of like by accessing like your intuition. So
if you're just getting started, the easiest way to start
is get a Taro deck and then just pull a
card a day. And so at the beginning of your day,
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just simply ask, like, what is the energy I need
to connect with today. It's not predicting what's going to
happen for you in the day. It's more like what
do I need to be aware of or what am
I calling in? And then actually, let me just grab
trusty little cards. So let's just say we're chuining into
our energy for today and we're doing the daily oh
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card pool and that one just, oh, this is not
a nice one. Okay, Well, so let's just say this
one comes out and so it's the three of Swords
and the picture on this is this heart. It's pierced
with three swords. It's pretty traumatic. There's rain clouds in
the background. And you know, you don't even need to
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know what the traditional meaning is of this card just
by looking at the imagery. You know, what would you see,
Mickey in this card? What would you say might be happening?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It feels like heartbreak, like.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, some sort of like heart hurt essentially is what
I normally see with that card?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, yes, and you know, maybe even I'm kind of
getting the feeling of like being let down or yeah,
feeling hurt portrayed. Maybe now you you might start your
day with this card and then you go, oh, what
am I to have a breakup? Or is something terrible
going to happen today? It's not necessarily that, it's more
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like using it as an opportunity to reflect on where
in my life is this energy showing up? And you
might go, well, where am I feeling left down? Hurt, betrayed, disappointed?
Where am I feeling brief sorrow, loss? And because often
you know, even these negative like so called negative feelings,
they can still be present, but we kind of stash
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them down, right, So I bet you can even think
of where you've been let down and maybe you're carrying
some of the energy today. I know I can when
I bring my awareness to it, I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm feeling a bit let down in particular areas. And
so then it's my opportunity to go, huh, well, how
might that be impacting me today? And is there anything
that I can do to shift that energy? And so
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we're really taking what might be stored in the subconscious,
bring it into that conscious awareness where we can take action,
we can do something with it, and then we can
move on with the date. So again, if you're a beginner,
you're brand new to it, easy peasy, because you can
just look at the picture, you can trust what you're feeling,
trust to intuition. Of course, you can always go into
awesome websites like videtaro dot com to get your Taro
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card meanings. And yeah, it's just a really simple and
easy way to start to learn the cards, but then
also to start to create time for yourself to listen
inwardly and listen to intuition, because that's ultimately what Taro
is doing. It's helping you to have this space to
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listen within. Because we're so busy, right, we'll, you know,
oh I've got to spare a minute or jump on
my phone, I'll have a look at whatever. But if
we've got Taro, it's more like, ah, okay, I can
just pull a card. I can tune into what I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yes, so true, And it's not like you're having to,
you know, put aside like twenty minutes to do a
deep meditation. So you can like you know, scour the
inner like parts of your mind and you know, try
and connect with some fucking galactic creature from some sort
of planet or something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's literally just like okay, pull our card. And what
I love about that that practice.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
As well, and the concept of just like pulling a
card today is that it also, as you said, it's
sort of taking something from the subconscious and putting it
into the conscious. But then you're getting to like have
control over something as well, which I think is like
so powerful. And what I love about, you know, just
spirituality in general.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Is like it really is this sort of like.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
This empowerment, this regaining control over yourself and your own
life as opposed to things happening to you. You're able
to be sort of more aware of what's going on
and then make a real decision about what you're going
to do about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, that's it. And you know what this is again,
one of the other big misconceptions about taru is that
you know, Taro is going to tell you what's going
to happen to you, or it's going to make something happen.
And you know, yes, you can use Taro in that way.
You can use it to predict the future. When we
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predict future, we're assuming that it's happening to us and
it's all set in stone. There's nothing we can do.
And you know, if it's a good outcome, awesome. But
if it's a bad outcome, like you know that three
of swords, like, oh yes, you're going to experience heartbreak
and grief and disappointment, then that feels like shit.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Right? So I like to kind of flip the table
on that and really look at, like, how can we
use taro as a way to empower ourselves to look
at what's happening currently and then how can I navigate
the current situation to create the outcomes I want and
I desire? And so that's what gives us that control,
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Like you're saying, it helps us to take back our
power and use it in a much more empowering way.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, I could not agree more.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Let's move into the manifestation of things, because how did
you go from like playing with taro, loving it, getting
super into it to building like a seven bigger empire
built on Taro?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
What was that journey?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You know, when I first started learning taro, within a
couple of years I was like, oh, this is kind
of cool. I would love to be able to share
it with people in some way. And this, again was
late nineteen nineties. I'm definitely showing my age, but it
was also like the birth of the Internet around then,
and I thought, oh, why don't I just start a
web page? And so I learned how to code HTML
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and i'd started building a little website.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You did it yourself?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, because I had to learn all of the code
all by myself. It looks like a disaster, but the
important thing is I just got started, right, and that's
the thing with all of business. So yeah, I put
up this website, and really, any time I was learning something,
I'd just added in and maybe someone else out there
in the world might enjoy it. And over time it
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started to grow. I started to have people join my
email list, I had people booking readings with me, and
then it started my website started to rank on Google,
and that's when the traffic really began to grow. And
so fast forward to twenty twelve, and I realized that
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my business was growing enough that I could actually leave
my corporate job. So I've been working in corporate for
about fifteen years, and yeah, I decided like it was
time to leave the corporate world. So twenty twelve is
when all of that happened, and then that's really when
the business started to build. I employed my first team member.
We now have a team of fifteen people who are
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located all around the world. And by twenty fourteen, I
was creating like online courses for Taro and purely because
I was like, Oh, I'm learning all this great stuff.
I really want to be able to share it with people.
Even though I don't consider myself a master or a
guru or an expert, I know that I've got something
that will offer like value to people and I might
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be a few years ahead of the people that I'm
here to serve. And that felt great to me. And
so yeah, the courses that started doing, the courses, the
master classes, all of the things, and over time that
really began to grow and grow. And so now we've
had over sixteen thousand students take our programs. We have
like I don't know, nearly twelve million people visit Bitty
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Taro every year and we're just serving people in a
really beautiful and authentic way in helping them create their
own transformation. With the two cards all the way from
like when you just get started to when you want
to create a business or expands like a coaching business
and you want to add in taaro, Like, yeah, we're
here for all of that. Like overall, it's just been
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about following those intuitive breadcrumbs and following where my energy
is and what feels great and you know, what feels alive,
and then doing more of that. I also have, like
I'm super passionate about business as I am about spirituality,
and you know, there's not kind of a rare blend
to find them both, but that's definitely like my magic source.
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And now yeah, I'm really happy to be able to
help others to kind of find that integration too between
those two worlds.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Okay, the statters amazing. That is incredible, And like what
I love is just like when you're talking, you just
exude this like you're so excited about what you do,
like you really fucking just love it, which is nothing
I love more than a passionate person who just loves
what they do and feel so like just like lit
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up by helping other people, which I think is the
most beautiful thing. So then how did we how did
you really like sort of figure out what the method was,
especially the intuitive manifesting of it all.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, when you're.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Sitting down, like teaching other people how to manifest intuitively,
like how do you teach that?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
What sort of like the method?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What do you think was the thing that made you
go everything else?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I was trying?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
This is what I was sort of missing amongst the
manifest because we hear people talk about manifestation all the time,
you know so, and sometimes like I know, for me,
I've done the written the lists, I've like imagined sitting
in the car, the car that I want, and all
of that kind of thing, and like getting in deep
and figuring out what it is that all of that crap,
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And I still feel like, even for me personally, there's
an element where I feel like I'm just stopping myself
with so much, which is why I'm so interested to
hear about like the intuitive manifesting and like you've created
a business based off I guess for someone like me
who's in a similar industry. And I think often when
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you are working in like a spiritual space or a
space where you're helping others, there's almost just like this
degree of wanting to help. More Over, wanting to sort
of like that balance of accepting money and you know, success,
Like how do you sort of navigate all of that?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah? Awesome. I think there's two really juicy topics in there,
and I'd love to give both some energy. And one is,
you know, how do you kind of operate as a
spiritual entrepreneur? And will jump into that, but first I
want to just, yeah, connect with the whole idea of
intuitive manifesting and like what is different about that? So
when I started my business, you know, I'd come out
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of fifteen years in corporate I had Also I'm a
master's degree in HR, so I've studied at university too long,
too long to have nightmares to I finished my degree
and I had to go back that after no. Yeah,
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but so you know, I've been academically trained, and I
think what happens out of that is that you, like
I was trained to see things in such a linear way.
If you want something, you set a goal, you do
your smart goals, You make a plan, you follow that
plan until you've hit your goal. And I think that
to some extent that is successful and it has worked
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for me. But I got to a point where I
was like there's only so much that this linear approach
can do. And what I started to see, particularly as
I was reading more and more with the Tarot cards,
is that our intuition actually has a huge role in
how we manifest things, and our energy and our connection
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to things really influences how we manifest and how we
create our goals. So when it comes to things like
intuitive manifested, for me, it's really about taking those fundamental
principles of manifesting, which is stuff like you know, having
a clear vision of what you want, then becoming like
an energetic match to that, taking aligned action, and then
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amplifying success through you know, celebrating success in someone. But
there's this missing layer that we often forget, and that
is this intuition layer that creates more of this alignment
to what our true goals and our desires are. So
even if you jump back into that first space of
like clarifying what it is that you want, the layer
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that I'm adding is like, set your goals, but set
the goals that are in alignment with your highest potential.
How this works is you can use your trusty Tarot
cards and you go, Okay, if I think my goal,
let's say, for my business. I think my goal is
to hit half a million dollars in revenue this year.
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You go, okay, great, that sounds good. Now you could
stop there and go, yeah, I've got my ambition, you know,
next step, but I suggest take that goal and then
think about what's a wildly ambitious version of that, what
is a kind of a more ambitious like, sorry, it's
slightly less ambitious, and then a more conservative. So you
end up with these three versions of your goal. Then
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pick a towero card like pull a card for each
version of that goal, and then tune into what is
what might you experience if you were to go for
each version of those goals. Now, when I was back
in the earlier days of my business, I thought it
was all about going for the you know ten x
your business. You know, that's kind of hustle crap that's
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out there, and if if I'd listened to that, I
would have just gone for it. But then my two
card said, hey, if you go for that wildly ambitious goal,
you're going to feel disconnected from your family, You're going
to get burnt out. You might make the money, but
it's not going to feel aligned and wholesome. And then Equally,
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if you just go conservative and do pretty much the
same as you did last year, it's going to get
boring for you. You're just you're not going to be inspired,
like you're just playing small. And then I had I
think maybe something like the Queen of Pentacles was sitting
right there in the middle. I thought, Yeah, if I
go for this kind of a little above what I'm
looking for, not the ten x crazy goal, but just
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the little expansion goal, then that's going to fulfill me
on so many different levels. And here's the thing, like
the Tower didn't tell me you must do this goal,
this is the right goal to do. I got to
make the choice. I got to go, Okay, what do
I really value? Well, I value my time, my freedom,
I value that. I like expansion and growth, and so
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knowing what is coming, like I can choose which one
feels most aligned for me, and so out of that,
I'm now creating these more aligned goals that are more
connected with my highest potential and beyond just what I
think is the right goal, but what is actually really
true for me to be that mylned goal.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yes, Oh my god, I feel like that's just been
such a light Bob One just the practicality of the
like of using the cards. I've never ever ever thought
to use cards in regards to manifesting or like I'll
you know, chat to spirit and try and see certain timelines,
which is hard when you're doing it for yourself, I
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find anyway, which is why I like to even use
cards and myself, because you can be so fucking biased,
like you have a bias and you have an ego
that likes to pop in, and it's like really hard
to get a clear.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Answer on your own shit sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Which is where the cards go. I'll just say it
for you, I'll tell you. But even just like the
feeling into, I like the concept of the like the
super large, the more conservative, and then that sort of
like middle ground and feeling into because I think our
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brain likes to, you know, and because given the society
that we live in and there's sort of like patriarchal,
capitalistic structure of it all, we can't help but sort
of want that ten times everything, you know, like supposed
to do this and build this and create it. You know,
I'm supposed to have a team of fifty people and like,
let's see how humongous we can get this thing without
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thinking exactly as you said, is that even the life
that I want? Or am I just getting caught up
in this like need for success and like this, you know,
if it's this big, then.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
How great will I be? How awesome is that that
I'll really.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Like must be thinking like I'll be definitely successful or whatever,
as opposed to that sort of like what like what
actually feels good?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
What actually feels like what I want in my life?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
As opposed you know, like do I just want a
humongous business or do I want.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Do I want? You know?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
And freedom also means like having a business that is
making an income that helps you feel free as well
and gives you freedom to help others and freedom to
you know, make choices and decisions, and freedom to be
with your family and like that's just such a beautiful
way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
M Yeah, And you know that is that's the power
of really connecting in with intuition and going beyond just
what you think is like the sexy goal. Because here's
the thing, like we you know, we're on social media
and you look at everyone like no doubt and everyone's feed.
You've got someone who's got the flashy life and they're
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manifesting all these cool things, and then it makes you
go like, oh, well, if they're manifesting that, maybe I
want to manifest that too, because that looks like it's
a cool thing to do. Except then you start going
down that path and you go, huh, that's not I
don't really actually want that, like you know, whether it's
like the fancy car or you know, beautiful holiday. Maybe
you start to realize, well, actually, maybe they're taking out
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financing or alone, and you don't want to have all
of that extra obligation of having to manage you know,
financing or even you know, with the businesses. I think
it's interesting because I'm in a number of different like
business circles, and sometimes the voices are like, yeah, let's
grow the business like these you know, eight figure, nine
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figure type business stuff. And then when you hear like
the sort of lunchtime chats, it's like, well, how much
profit are you making? Oh no, none, we're in growth mode.
It's like, oh that's not for me, Like I don't
need the really big growing business and get no profit.
I'm know, sure there's probably a wonderful sale down the track,
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but for me, like what's important to me is Yeah,
freedom time with family, that I feel comfortable like financially,
that I can generate a consistent and regular profit in
my business, Like that's important to me. And if that
means that I don't necessarily grow my business aggressively, and
that's okay. I might look different to what's on all
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of the Instagram pages and people with all these like
you know meland La launch, Well how much did he
spend on ads or how much did he spend with affiliates?
Like what is actually left over from that? So yeah,
I think it's just really reclaiming trusting our own intuition
about what is that we really desire and not getting
caught up in what looks like the thing that we
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should be going for.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, I love that so much and your business as well.
Do you feel like the growth of it happened because
like often we see these sort of like overnight success
well you know, as you said, like going from zero
to one hundred and you're in boss bitch mode or
whatever it is that you know, like boss girl and
and all of that. But do you feel like there's
like such a merit to sort of and I know,
(29:01):
like this has been such a lesson from spirit to
me recently because I've got a Capricorn stelium and I
love to just you know, try and be successful and
do all of the things and everything, and I guess
we almost.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like forget that there is like such.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
A the timeline is so much longer and larger than
we realize, you know, and there's such merit to just
sort of like slow and steady and kind of like
really enjoying the in between moments of it all. And like, yeah,
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Spirits sort of said to me, They're like, you literally
need to actually just take it one thing at a time,
you know, and like just gradually sort of build, as
opposed to just thinking that you can just, I don't know,
do one thing and like that's it. You're like, you know,
like just just sort of like the way that you've
built it.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Does it make.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It feel I guess almost like more comfortable in a way,
like you're able to kind of like adjust it every
single step along the way.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, you know what, Like I think when I was
starting to build the business, I paid so much attention
to the later strategies, the best practices, you know, what
other people were doing, and that certainly helped me to
know how to grow an online business. But there came
a point where it just I was looking so far
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outside of me. I was losing track of what I
really wanted and what was really important for me. So
I think that this just gives me that ability to
really trust what's important to me, and that I don't
necessarily have to chase the same goals that other people have,
and I don't have to do things the same way
that other people do. I don't have to feel that
(30:51):
fomo because it actually doesn't matter what other people are doing.
What matters is what I'm doing and how does that
feel for me? And I think what I've learned to
do over time is, you know, like when we're going
for that extreme kind of growth, we're often chasing something
that's ahead, like in the future, and everything is like
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I'm doing everything now, I'm working really hard. I'm not
making money so that I can make the money in
the future, or I can have the holiday, or I
could finally have my financial freedom and stop working or whatever.
But what I realize is, when you're working in that way,
how are you experiencing the present moment? You're probably experiencing stress, anxiety,
you know, pressure, yeah, and being a business owner. Now
(31:39):
I'm like far out, bridget. If you can't get this
shit sorted now, you'll never get it sorted. And if
you're feeling like overwhelmed and like you don't have time
to do anything, you'll never get that sorted. And so
I think I've really learned to pivot and go okay
in this moment, like, right now, how do I want
to feel what's important to me? I know that freedom
is one of my highest values. How can I create
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freedom right now? How can I feel good and aligned
and energized right now? Because if I can't do it
right now, I probably won't ever be able to do it.
And so yeah, it's just like it's the same pattern
with Taro. Instead of projecting yourself out into the future,
come back to the present moment because this is where
we are creating the future, then where we're having our
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experience is now. And yeah, I think that's like that's
the same with goals and manifesting. It's how can you
start to also be your future self now? This is
another really big kind of breakthrough moment that many of
my students have with intuitive manifesting is oftentimes we're focused
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on all of the things we need to do to
get to our goal. But what we really need to
do first is actually who do we need to become
to get our goals? So be?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Then? Do not?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Do? Then?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So what that means is if we go out into
the future and we go, okay, that when I finally
feel successful and fulfilled, what are my characteristics? Who am I?
Who have I become? You know? Am I someone that
is courageous? Am I someone that feels expansive and free?
And then how can I take those characteristics and bring
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them right back into this present moment so that I
am already all of those things now? And if I
can just add one little icing on the cake there,
because please, this awesome tool for this is what if
you could find a TOWERO card that perfectly embodies that
future self. So, for example, I might go, well, I
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really want to have okay, hope, and I want to
I want to really embody hope and faith and trust
in the universe right to trust that my goals will
come to fruition. Okay, Well, I know that the Star
card has a lot of that hope and faith. So
how can I make the Star card my ally, my
guide in this whole process? How can I embody her
energy and be her and feel her so that when
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I do go to do the things to achieve my goals,
I'm already transporting all of that beautiful future energy into
this present moment to make things happen from that space.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Talking about creating a spiritual business or like, you know,
it's even not even particularly like spirituality, but even just
like being of service to others and trying to sort
of balance owning a business and not having this like
perspective of you know, this capitalistic I just need to
make money versus like I just want to help people.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
How do you balance the two of those?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You know, it's for me, I often just feel this
like moral back and forth sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, and I think the two do need to be
balanced with each other. What I've found, you know, through
the different cycles of my business, I've had some cycles where,
you know, maybe we're going through a bit of a
rough spot where maybe we're not receiving as much like
income and money coming through the business. And those times
(35:09):
I've realized, you know what, it actually doesn't matter how
much I want to serve people right now, It's also
very important to me that I am being financially rewarded
and sustained and nurtured like through this business. So love
it or hate it, I think money is actually still
really important. And that's why I, you know, bang on
a bit about like profit. I think profits really healthy
(35:30):
and it's important and it's not about greed. It's about
actually making sure that you are being sustained as a creator.
Because again that there was a time in my business
where it just everything felt so hard and we're just
just felt like struggles, street things are not feeling great.
And I realized at that moment, you know, a couple
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of my team members resigned, and I'm like, shit, that
all of them can resign, but I can't, Like I
don't get to hand in my resignation letter, even if
I'm having a really terrible experience, I don't get to
go that's it. I quit, because the whole thing is
over if I did that. And I really realized in
that moment, no, okay, I have some non negotiables that
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I need to make sure that I can be sustained
through this and over a long period of time. So
I think, you know, as a business owner with a
spiritual focus, you have to put some of your own
needs first, because otherwise you will not be running your
offering and you will not be serving your people if
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you can't sustain yourself over time. So it's definitely definitely
a balance. And then you know, on the flip side,
I've seen people who are just all about the money
and all they talk about is the leads and the
con persians, And yes, that is important data correct, And
I think, hang on a second, are we dealing with
people here? Are we like, you know, heart to heart connection.
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I've got to be it's so mindful that we're playing
in that balance space. And maybe it is the balance
of the masculine and the feminine. Jeez, maybe it's that
balance of kind of yeah, the heart to heart connection
and then the financial sustainability of a business. I think
oftentimes spiritual entrepreneurs feel the guilt and the greed of
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money without recognized and realizing that they actually do need
the money to allow them to then fully serve their
community and their people.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Definitely, and that's something I always try and remind myself of.
And when I first started manifesting like ever, because I
just had this like this real guilt thing around money
and wanting money, but I just really wanted to be
able to help people, and I realized, well, I can't
actually help people if I don't have, like, I can't,
(37:51):
I can't donate money, I can't go out and help others.
I can't There's so much I can't do what I'm
restricted by because I myself am literally just trying to
survive every single day.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And that was like such a game change for me.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And I'm like, you know, if I've got money, then
I can support smaller businesses. If I've got money, I
can donate. If I've got money, I can travel and
help people I've got And that sort of changed my
perspective on things. So instead of it being like money
for me, I started to go, Okay, well I'll try.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And make money so that I can then help more people.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
And so now I'm in the like trying to balance
the doing it for others and doing it for myself
as well, which is sort of like.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, and it's hard. It's such a.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Hard thing because you don't want to like, I love
business and I love having a business and building a business,
but then like trying to balance that with you know.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
You also don't want to be seen as like a
bad person.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Or you know, especially as women too, Like it's not
even just spiritual, but like as a woman, you're not
supposed to be too ambitious and you're not supposed to
be too assertive, and like, you know, your business is
being a really fucking nice person, so you have to
like keep that appearance up kind of balance.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
All of those things can feel difficult.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
And I think it's particularly so, like in the spiritual space,
because there is a lot of judgment around that, like, well,
if you're really spiritual, you wouldn't be trying to make
money or a profit out of this, right, Oh, you've
got natural gifts, Like how dare you charge for those gifts?
And I always say like, well, okay, that's nice, and
just you know, like a hard surgeon, they're gifted, aren't
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they They're amazing, they save lives. Like are they meant
to not charge for their services and their skills? No way,
There's no way that we would go like, I'm not
going to pay you, because you should be honoring your gifts.
Even a hairdresser like do we go and get a
haircut and go, oh, you're so gifted, we shouldn't be charging.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's so true.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Oh, I have just I feel like I've just selfishly
this has almost just been like me just milking information
from you and just like make the most of all
of your wisdom.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
And your business advice and everything. I'm like, I hope
everyone else has been enjoying this as much as I have.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Thank you so much for coming and chatting to me
and sharing like this is such important information and even just.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Like the practicality of tarot. Like what I love about.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Tarot and cards in general is it is a practical tool.
It's like something that you can hold in your hand.
It is something that can just be used when you
need it, which I think like is so important and
something that can really help us get out of our
own heads as well.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yes, and it's beautiful like to use that alongside of
manifesting or you know, creating what you really desire. It's
it is super powerful and it's also like non threatening,
right because you talk about all kinds of topics like
talking ago, some spirits and all that kind of stuff.
That stuff can seem a little bit scary because it's unseen, unknown, right,
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Taro is like, well, the card said that I'm going
to meet a nice man on his throne who knows
his emotions. It's there, It's like in the picture, and
so it is a beautiful tangible way to go well, actually,
you know, this is me connecting with my intuition, but
the card tells me is you know it's a nice
bridge between the two realms for sure?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Totally?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, Literally, it's a picture, like what is it going
to do to you?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You can still if you want, you can still look
at it and go no.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Thank you, or you can take heaps of information out
of it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Thank you so much. Bridget.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Is there anything else, like one last thing that you
feel like you'd love for people to know about Taro,
about manifestation, about anything.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, I'd say just get started, Like seriously, you know,
I think people get a little bit frightened about the
worry that it's going to take too long to learn
and master, but hopefully, like what you've experienced in this
last hour together is that Taro is actually very easy
to just start using and to use in a very
powerful way. I'd also like to just offer I've put
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together a special free guide with the four steps of
intuitive manifesting. So if you want to dive more into
what intuitive manifesting is really about, go over to bitditaro
dot com forward slash four steps and you'll be able
to download that guide for free. Hurrah. Plus you'll also
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get all of the details on where to pre order
the Intuitive Manifesting Book as well. So it's a really
great way just to get into it, get started and
start to just experience the magic of Taro and making
your dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Thank you so much, and I'll put all of the
information and everything in the show notes. Also, like you
need one of Bridget's tarot decks. I have one and
I use it religiously. It's like basically like the it's bent,
it's in all it's in a well used condition because
it's so great. Thank you so much, Bridget. It's been
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such an honor to have you on the podcast. And
I'll make sure that everything is in the show notes
that people can find you and manifest their dream life.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yay, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
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Bridget Essalmont, is an intuitive entrepreneur, a best selling author,
and founder of Bitty Tarot. I have had your tarot
cards for years, and I've known about you and what you.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Do for years. How did you get into taro?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, so it goes all the way back to the
late nineteen ninety and this is when I just finished
high school and I was going on an exchange to
Germany with my best friend and we thought, oh, why
don't we go and get a tower reading before we
go to Germany. And so we found this little place
in the Rocks in Sydney and we're walking up these
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creaky wooden stairs and starting to feel all very mysterious
and a little bit spooky. And I walk into this
dark room. This woman's like sitting there in the corner
with her cards laid out in front of her, and
I was like, oh my gosh, what am I getting
myself into? But I sat down with her and asked her, like,
what's going to happen when I go to Germany? And
she starts pulling the cards and then she pulls the Emperor.
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She goes, ooh, you're going to fall in love, like
there's his boyfriend. He's waiting for you. It's going to
be amazing. And so, you know, I'm seventeen years old,
I'm like, oh, that sounds fantastic. Probably tell us to everyone,
but hey, I'll buy into it. And then yeah, of
course I go to Germany. I fall in love a
few times and it was great done. And so then
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like that, I came back to Australia and I thought, wow,
this is pretty cool. I'd love to learn how to
do this and I could show off to my friends
this like cool trick. But here's the thing. I've got
my tarot cards. My mum gifted them to me. I
started learning them, and then the more that I learned
about the Taro, the more I realized that they were
actually a really profound tool for transformation and for accessing intuition.
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It was so different to what I've seen like on movies,
which was all about like fortune telling and mystery and
you know, bad things happening. It was completely different to that.
It was actually this really beautiful experience that I was
having with the cards, and it was opening up all
of these parts of myself that had been there for
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so long, like the spiritual aspects, the connection to the divine,
connection to self and intuition, and it was all just
like opening up as it's laid out there on the
table in front of me.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
In what way can you explain? Because that's so interesting
to me. I mean, I don't think I've ever really
thought about it like that, Like, in what way did
it sort of like reveal this part of you?
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah. So, Like one of the things that I thought
before I started reading Taro was I had to be
psychic in order to read Taro. I needed to be
able to see like speak to dead people. I had
to see the future like perfectly. And I really thought
that I needed to have these specific skills and gifts
in order to be able to read Taro. And so
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when I started reading Taro, I did everything I could
to like master it, master my psychic abilities. But over
time I started to realize this actually isn't about like wrote,
learning the cards. It's not like what I was doing
at school and university and trying to read all of
the books. This was actually something that needed to be
felt and experienced. So then the more that I let
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my intuition come into play, the more I could see
what was unfolding in the cards. So it actually turned
out that instead of having to be psychic and gifted
and so on to read Taro, the Taro itself was
the thing that was helping me become more intuitive. Because
if you think about Taro cards, it's seventy eight cards.
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Every card has this picture on it, It has this
rich symbolism, you know, different stories, mythology, even connections to
religion and other spiritual kind of philosophies. And when we're
reading these cards, it's almost giving us direct access to
this collective wisdom that's been created over time, but also
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to this individual wisdom that's our intuition and what's within ourselves.
And so when we access Taro, were actually accessing these
different parts of and wisdom, that collective wisdom and our
inner wisdom, and that to me is just amazing and
so powerful.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
I love that cards are probably I guess when people
think about spirituality right and like you know, delving into
their own spirituality. I know, for me, cards was like
one of the first places I went because it's a tool,
it's a really helpful, very fun as well, like it
doesn't feel scary. There's nothing really about although unless like
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if you're doing Taro for the first time and you
see like the death card or the tower or something
come out and you're like, oh my fucking god, am
I about to die? But outside of that, it's just
like it's a fun almost like party game me kind
of feeling. But I can understand like that the sort
of how it helps you do a lot of healing
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and a lot of sort of like revealing of yourself
because I look back to sort of when I first
started using them, and even when I use them now,
like a lot of my intention when I'm sort of
pulling a card, I'm like, what do I What am
I needing?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
What am I not seeing right now? What am I?
Speaker 3 (06:12):
And it really is that like oh, okay, this is
what I need to be working on in my life. Well, like,
this is where I sort of like need to be
my attention needs to go. Well, I never even realized
that I was doing that. It really does like access
this very like intuitive subconscious part of you.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's that's what I love about it
because you know, even when we do like personal growth
and development, if we only do that from a place
of thinking it and what's in our conscious mind, we're
really only tapping into part of it. We're not tapping
into this full spectrum. But what Taro helps us to
do is to access more of our subconscious and what's
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really happening, you know, underneath the surface. And when we
access more of that subconscious part, then we start to
reveal so much more than if it's inner conscious mind
and all of that happens because again, Taro cards are
so visual, they're so symbolic, so it helps to bypass
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the conscious mind and it helps us drop into subconscious
where really like that is where the bulk of you know,
who we are actually lies. There's only a tiny little
fraction that's up there in our conscious minds.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Before we move on to like the manifestation of it all.
Let's talk I would love to chat about Like for
people who are listening and they're like, I really want
to use taro, how would you recommend people even get
into it or start using it or you know, because
I think for a lot of people, it feels a
bit like you'd need, you know, to go and read
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like fifteen books or do a course or something on
how to use them.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, and I totally get it. That's kind of why
I haven't. I have like about three books on astrology.
Every time I go to read them, I'm like, oh,
it's too much. I don't remember all this.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I feel like that too about astrology.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Well, and you know, I had that feeling about taro
when I first started, because I was like, holy moly,
how on earth do you remember seventy eight tarot cards
and what they mean? Like if you pick up any book,
there's like literally pages and pages on every card, and
then you think, oh, gosh, I've got to like memorize
all this stuff. But again, what I learned over time
(08:31):
was that that's actually really only one way of going
about learning taro. The other way is to experience taro
through more of like by accessing like your intuition. So
if you're just getting started, the easiest way to start
is get a Taro deck and then just pull a
card a day. And so at the beginning of your day,
(08:52):
just simply ask, like, what is the energy I need
to connect with today. It's not predicting what's going to
happen for you in the day. It's more like what
do I need to be aware of or what am
I calling in? And then actually, let me just grab
trusty little cards. So let's just say we're chuining into
our energy for today and we're doing the daily oh
(09:13):
card pool and that one just, oh, this is not
a nice one. Okay, Well, so let's just say this
one comes out and so it's the three of Swords
and the picture on this is this heart. It's pierced
with three swords. It's pretty traumatic. There's rain clouds in
the background. And you know, you don't even need to
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know what the traditional meaning is of this card just
by looking at the imagery. You know, what would you see,
Mickey in this card? What would you say might be happening?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It feels like heartbreak, like.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Yes, some sort of like heart hurt essentially is what
I normally see with that card?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, yes, and you know, maybe even I'm kind of
getting the feeling of like being let down or yeah,
feeling hurt portrayed. Maybe now you you might start your
day with this card and then you go, oh, what
am I to have a breakup? Or is something terrible
going to happen today? It's not necessarily that, it's more
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like using it as an opportunity to reflect on where
in my life is this energy showing up? And you
might go, well, where am I feeling left down? Hurt, betrayed, disappointed?
Where am I feeling brief sorrow, loss? And because often
you know, even these negative like so called negative feelings,
they can still be present, but we kind of stash
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them down, right, So I bet you can even think
of where you've been let down and maybe you're carrying
some of the energy today. I know I can when
I bring my awareness to it, I'm like, oh, yeah,
I'm feeling a bit let down in particular areas. And
so then it's my opportunity to go, huh, well, how
might that be impacting me today? And is there anything
that I can do to shift that energy? And so
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we're really taking what might be stored in the subconscious,
bring it into that conscious awareness where we can take action,
we can do something with it, and then we can
move on with the date. So again, if you're a beginner,
you're brand new to it, easy peasy, because you can
just look at the picture, you can trust what you're feeling,
trust to intuition. Of course, you can always go into
awesome websites like videtaro dot com to get your Taro
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card meanings. And yeah, it's just a really simple and
easy way to start to learn the cards, but then
also to start to create time for yourself to listen
inwardly and listen to intuition, because that's ultimately what Taro
is doing. It's helping you to have this space to
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listen within. Because we're so busy, right, we'll, you know,
oh I've got to spare a minute or jump on
my phone, I'll have a look at whatever. But if
we've got Taro, it's more like, ah, okay, I can
just pull a card. I can tune into what I'm feeling.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Yes, so true, And it's not like you're having to,
you know, put aside like twenty minutes to do a
deep meditation. So you can like you know, scour the
inner like parts of your mind and you know, try
and connect with some fucking galactic creature from some sort
of planet or something like that.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's literally just like okay, pull our card. And what
I love about that that practice.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
As well, and the concept of just like pulling a
card today is that it also, as you said, it's
sort of taking something from the subconscious and putting it
into the conscious. But then you're getting to like have
control over something as well, which I think is like
so powerful. And what I love about, you know, just
spirituality in general.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Is like it really is this sort of like.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
This empowerment, this regaining control over yourself and your own
life as opposed to things happening to you. You're able
to be sort of more aware of what's going on
and then make a real decision about what you're going
to do about it.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, that's it. And you know what this is again,
one of the other big misconceptions about taru is that
you know, Taro is going to tell you what's going
to happen to you, or it's going to make something happen.
And you know, yes, you can use Taro in that way.
You can use it to predict the future. When we
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predict future, we're assuming that it's happening to us and
it's all set in stone. There's nothing we can do.
And you know, if it's a good outcome, awesome. But
if it's a bad outcome, like you know that three
of swords, like, oh yes, you're going to experience heartbreak
and grief and disappointment, then that feels like shit.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Doesn't it?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Right? So I like to kind of flip the table
on that and really look at, like, how can we
use taro as a way to empower ourselves to look
at what's happening currently and then how can I navigate
the current situation to create the outcomes I want and
I desire? And so that's what gives us that control,
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Like you're saying, it helps us to take back our
power and use it in a much more empowering way.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Yes, I could not agree more.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Let's move into the manifestation of things, because how did
you go from like playing with taro, loving it, getting
super into it to building like a seven bigger empire
built on Taro?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
What was that journey?
Speaker 1 (14:26):
You know, when I first started learning taro, within a
couple of years I was like, oh, this is kind
of cool. I would love to be able to share
it with people in some way. And this, again was
late nineteen nineties. I'm definitely showing my age, but it
was also like the birth of the Internet around then,
and I thought, oh, why don't I just start a
web page? And so I learned how to code HTML
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and i'd started building a little website.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
You did it yourself?
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah, because I had to learn all of the code
all by myself. It looks like a disaster, but the
important thing is I just got started, right, and that's
the thing with all of business. So yeah, I put
up this website, and really, any time I was learning something,
I'd just added in and maybe someone else out there
in the world might enjoy it. And over time it
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started to grow. I started to have people join my
email list, I had people booking readings with me, and
then it started my website started to rank on Google,
and that's when the traffic really began to grow. And
so fast forward to twenty twelve, and I realized that
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my business was growing enough that I could actually leave
my corporate job. So I've been working in corporate for
about fifteen years, and yeah, I decided like it was
time to leave the corporate world. So twenty twelve is
when all of that happened, and then that's really when
the business started to build. I employed my first team member.
We now have a team of fifteen people who are
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located all around the world. And by twenty fourteen, I
was creating like online courses for Taro and purely because
I was like, Oh, I'm learning all this great stuff.
I really want to be able to share it with people.
Even though I don't consider myself a master or a
guru or an expert, I know that I've got something
that will offer like value to people and I might
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be a few years ahead of the people that I'm
here to serve. And that felt great to me. And
so yeah, the courses that started doing, the courses, the
master classes, all of the things, and over time that
really began to grow and grow. And so now we've
had over sixteen thousand students take our programs. We have
like I don't know, nearly twelve million people visit Bitty
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Taro every year and we're just serving people in a
really beautiful and authentic way in helping them create their
own transformation. With the two cards all the way from
like when you just get started to when you want
to create a business or expands like a coaching business
and you want to add in taaro, Like, yeah, we're
here for all of that. Like overall, it's just been
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about following those intuitive breadcrumbs and following where my energy
is and what feels great and you know, what feels alive,
and then doing more of that. I also have, like
I'm super passionate about business as I am about spirituality,
and you know, there's not kind of a rare blend
to find them both, but that's definitely like my magic source.
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And now yeah, I'm really happy to be able to
help others to kind of find that integration too between
those two worlds.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Okay, the statters amazing. That is incredible, And like what
I love is just like when you're talking, you just
exude this like you're so excited about what you do,
like you really fucking just love it, which is nothing
I love more than a passionate person who just loves
what they do and feel so like just like lit
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up by helping other people, which I think is the
most beautiful thing. So then how did we how did
you really like sort of figure out what the method was,
especially the intuitive manifesting of it all.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You know, when you're.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Sitting down, like teaching other people how to manifest intuitively,
like how do you teach that?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
What sort of like the method?
Speaker 3 (18:20):
What do you think was the thing that made you
go everything else?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I was trying?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
This is what I was sort of missing amongst the
manifest because we hear people talk about manifestation all the time,
you know so, and sometimes like I know, for me,
I've done the written the lists, I've like imagined sitting
in the car, the car that I want, and all
of that kind of thing, and like getting in deep
and figuring out what it is that all of that crap,
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And I still feel like, even for me personally, there's
an element where I feel like I'm just stopping myself
with so much, which is why I'm so interested to
hear about like the intuitive manifesting and like you've created
a business based off I guess for someone like me
who's in a similar industry. And I think often when
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you are working in like a spiritual space or a
space where you're helping others, there's almost just like this
degree of wanting to help. More Over, wanting to sort
of like that balance of accepting money and you know, success,
Like how do you sort of navigate all of that?
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Yeah? Awesome. I think there's two really juicy topics in there,
and I'd love to give both some energy. And one is,
you know, how do you kind of operate as a
spiritual entrepreneur? And will jump into that, but first I
want to just, yeah, connect with the whole idea of
intuitive manifesting and like what is different about that? So
when I started my business, you know, I'd come out
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of fifteen years in corporate I had Also I'm a
master's degree in HR, so I've studied at university too long,
too long to have nightmares to I finished my degree
and I had to go back that after no. Yeah,
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but so you know, I've been academically trained, and I
think what happens out of that is that you, like
I was trained to see things in such a linear way.
If you want something, you set a goal, you do
your smart goals, You make a plan, you follow that
plan until you've hit your goal. And I think that
to some extent that is successful and it has worked
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for me. But I got to a point where I
was like there's only so much that this linear approach
can do. And what I started to see, particularly as
I was reading more and more with the Tarot cards,
is that our intuition actually has a huge role in
how we manifest things, and our energy and our connection
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to things really influences how we manifest and how we
create our goals. So when it comes to things like
intuitive manifested, for me, it's really about taking those fundamental
principles of manifesting, which is stuff like you know, having
a clear vision of what you want, then becoming like
an energetic match to that, taking aligned action, and then
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amplifying success through you know, celebrating success in someone. But
there's this missing layer that we often forget, and that
is this intuition layer that creates more of this alignment
to what our true goals and our desires are. So
even if you jump back into that first space of
like clarifying what it is that you want, the layer
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that I'm adding is like, set your goals, but set
the goals that are in alignment with your highest potential.
How this works is you can use your trusty Tarot
cards and you go, Okay, if I think my goal,
let's say, for my business. I think my goal is
to hit half a million dollars in revenue this year.
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You go, okay, great, that sounds good. Now you could
stop there and go, yeah, I've got my ambition, you know,
next step, but I suggest take that goal and then
think about what's a wildly ambitious version of that, what
is a kind of a more ambitious like, sorry, it's
slightly less ambitious, and then a more conservative. So you
end up with these three versions of your goal. Then
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pick a towero card like pull a card for each
version of that goal, and then tune into what is
what might you experience if you were to go for
each version of those goals. Now, when I was back
in the earlier days of my business, I thought it
was all about going for the you know ten x
your business. You know, that's kind of hustle crap that's
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out there, and if if I'd listened to that, I
would have just gone for it. But then my two
card said, hey, if you go for that wildly ambitious goal,
you're going to feel disconnected from your family, You're going
to get burnt out. You might make the money, but
it's not going to feel aligned and wholesome. And then Equally,
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if you just go conservative and do pretty much the
same as you did last year, it's going to get
boring for you. You're just you're not going to be inspired,
like you're just playing small. And then I had I
think maybe something like the Queen of Pentacles was sitting
right there in the middle. I thought, Yeah, if I
go for this kind of a little above what I'm
looking for, not the ten x crazy goal, but just
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the little expansion goal, then that's going to fulfill me
on so many different levels. And here's the thing, like
the Tower didn't tell me you must do this goal,
this is the right goal to do. I got to
make the choice. I got to go, Okay, what do
I really value? Well, I value my time, my freedom,
I value that. I like expansion and growth, and so
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knowing what is coming, like I can choose which one
feels most aligned for me, and so out of that,
I'm now creating these more aligned goals that are more
connected with my highest potential and beyond just what I
think is the right goal, but what is actually really
true for me to be that mylned goal.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yes, Oh my god, I feel like that's just been
such a light Bob One just the practicality of the
like of using the cards. I've never ever ever thought
to use cards in regards to manifesting or like I'll
you know, chat to spirit and try and see certain timelines,
which is hard when you're doing it for yourself, I
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find anyway, which is why I like to even use
cards and myself, because you can be so fucking biased,
like you have a bias and you have an ego
that likes to pop in, and it's like really hard
to get a clear.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Answer on your own shit sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
Which is where the cards go. I'll just say it
for you, I'll tell you. But even just like the
feeling into, I like the concept of the like the
super large, the more conservative, and then that sort of
like middle ground and feeling into because I think our
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brain likes to, you know, and because given the society
that we live in and there's sort of like patriarchal,
capitalistic structure of it all, we can't help but sort
of want that ten times everything, you know, like supposed
to do this and build this and create it. You know,
I'm supposed to have a team of fifty people and like,
let's see how humongous we can get this thing without
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thinking exactly as you said, is that even the life
that I want? Or am I just getting caught up
in this like need for success and like this, you know,
if it's this big, then.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
How great will I be? How awesome is that that
I'll really.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Like must be thinking like I'll be definitely successful or whatever,
as opposed to that sort of like what like what
actually feels good?
Speaker 2 (25:56):
What actually feels like what I want in my life?
Speaker 3 (25:59):
As opposed you know, like do I just want a
humongous business or do I want.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Do I want? You know?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
And freedom also means like having a business that is
making an income that helps you feel free as well
and gives you freedom to help others and freedom to
you know, make choices and decisions, and freedom to be
with your family and like that's just such a beautiful
way to look at it.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
M Yeah, And you know that is that's the power
of really connecting in with intuition and going beyond just
what you think is like the sexy goal. Because here's
the thing, like we you know, we're on social media
and you look at everyone like no doubt and everyone's feed.
You've got someone who's got the flashy life and they're
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manifesting all these cool things, and then it makes you
go like, oh, well, if they're manifesting that, maybe I
want to manifest that too, because that looks like it's
a cool thing to do. Except then you start going
down that path and you go, huh, that's not I
don't really actually want that, like you know, whether it's
like the fancy car or you know, beautiful holiday. Maybe
you start to realize, well, actually, maybe they're taking out
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financing or alone, and you don't want to have all
of that extra obligation of having to manage you know,
financing or even you know, with the businesses. I think
it's interesting because I'm in a number of different like
business circles, and sometimes the voices are like, yeah, let's
grow the business like these you know, eight figure, nine
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figure type business stuff. And then when you hear like
the sort of lunchtime chats, it's like, well, how much
profit are you making? Oh no, none, we're in growth mode.
It's like, oh that's not for me, Like I don't
need the really big growing business and get no profit.
I'm know, sure there's probably a wonderful sale down the track,
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but for me, like what's important to me is Yeah,
freedom time with family, that I feel comfortable like financially,
that I can generate a consistent and regular profit in
my business, Like that's important to me. And if that
means that I don't necessarily grow my business aggressively, and
that's okay. I might look different to what's on all
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of the Instagram pages and people with all these like
you know meland La launch, Well how much did he
spend on ads or how much did he spend with affiliates?
Like what is actually left over from that? So yeah,
I think it's just really reclaiming trusting our own intuition
about what is that we really desire and not getting
caught up in what looks like the thing that we
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should be going for.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, I love that so much and your business as well.
Do you feel like the growth of it happened because
like often we see these sort of like overnight success
well you know, as you said, like going from zero
to one hundred and you're in boss bitch mode or
whatever it is that you know, like boss girl and
and all of that. But do you feel like there's
like such a merit to sort of and I know,
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like this has been such a lesson from spirit to
me recently because I've got a Capricorn stelium and I
love to just you know, try and be successful and
do all of the things and everything, and I guess
we almost.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Like forget that there is like such.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
A the timeline is so much longer and larger than
we realize, you know, and there's such merit to just
sort of like slow and steady and kind of like
really enjoying the in between moments of it all. And like, yeah,
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Spirits sort of said to me, They're like, you literally
need to actually just take it one thing at a time,
you know, and like just gradually sort of build, as
opposed to just thinking that you can just, I don't know,
do one thing and like that's it. You're like, you know,
like just just sort of like the way that you've
built it.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Does it make.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
It feel I guess almost like more comfortable in a way,
like you're able to kind of like adjust it every
single step along the way.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yeah, you know what, Like I think when I was
starting to build the business, I paid so much attention
to the later strategies, the best practices, you know, what
other people were doing, and that certainly helped me to
know how to grow an online business. But there came
a point where it just I was looking so far
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outside of me. I was losing track of what I
really wanted and what was really important for me. So
I think that this just gives me that ability to
really trust what's important to me, and that I don't
necessarily have to chase the same goals that other people have,
and I don't have to do things the same way
that other people do. I don't have to feel that
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fomo because it actually doesn't matter what other people are doing.
What matters is what I'm doing and how does that
feel for me? And I think what I've learned to
do over time is, you know, like when we're going
for that extreme kind of growth, we're often chasing something
that's ahead, like in the future, and everything is like
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I'm doing everything now, I'm working really hard. I'm not
making money so that I can make the money in
the future, or I can have the holiday, or I
could finally have my financial freedom and stop working or whatever.
But what I realize is, when you're working in that way,
how are you experiencing the present moment? You're probably experiencing stress, anxiety,
you know, pressure, yeah, and being a business owner. Now
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I'm like far out, bridget. If you can't get this
shit sorted now, you'll never get it sorted. And if
you're feeling like overwhelmed and like you don't have time
to do anything, you'll never get that sorted. And so
I think I've really learned to pivot and go okay
in this moment, like, right now, how do I want
to feel what's important to me? I know that freedom
is one of my highest values. How can I create
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freedom right now? How can I feel good and aligned
and energized right now? Because if I can't do it
right now, I probably won't ever be able to do it.
And so yeah, it's just like it's the same pattern
with Taro. Instead of projecting yourself out into the future,
come back to the present moment because this is where
we are creating the future, then where we're having our
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experience is now. And yeah, I think that's like that's
the same with goals and manifesting. It's how can you
start to also be your future self now? This is
another really big kind of breakthrough moment that many of
my students have with intuitive manifesting is oftentimes we're focused
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on all of the things we need to do to
get to our goal. But what we really need to
do first is actually who do we need to become
to get our goals? So be?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Then? Do not?
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Do? Then?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Be?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So what that means is if we go out into
the future and we go, okay, that when I finally
feel successful and fulfilled, what are my characteristics? Who am I?
Who have I become? You know? Am I someone that
is courageous? Am I someone that feels expansive and free?
And then how can I take those characteristics and bring
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them right back into this present moment so that I
am already all of those things now? And if I
can just add one little icing on the cake there,
because please, this awesome tool for this is what if
you could find a TOWERO card that perfectly embodies that
future self. So, for example, I might go, well, I
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really want to have okay, hope, and I want to
I want to really embody hope and faith and trust
in the universe right to trust that my goals will
come to fruition. Okay, Well, I know that the Star
card has a lot of that hope and faith. So
how can I make the Star card my ally, my
guide in this whole process? How can I embody her
energy and be her and feel her so that when
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I do go to do the things to achieve my goals,
I'm already transporting all of that beautiful future energy into
this present moment to make things happen from that space.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Talking about creating a spiritual business or like, you know,
it's even not even particularly like spirituality, but even just
like being of service to others and trying to sort
of balance owning a business and not having this like
perspective of you know, this capitalistic I just need to
make money versus like I just want to help people.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
How do you balance the two of those?
Speaker 3 (34:41):
You know, it's for me, I often just feel this
like moral back and forth sometimes.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yeah, and I think the two do need to be
balanced with each other. What I've found, you know, through
the different cycles of my business, I've had some cycles where,
you know, maybe we're going through a bit of a
rough spot where maybe we're not receiving as much like
income and money coming through the business. And those times
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I've realized, you know what, it actually doesn't matter how
much I want to serve people right now, It's also
very important to me that I am being financially rewarded
and sustained and nurtured like through this business. So love
it or hate it, I think money is actually still
really important. And that's why I, you know, bang on
a bit about like profit. I think profits really healthy
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and it's important and it's not about greed. It's about
actually making sure that you are being sustained as a creator.
Because again that there was a time in my business
where it just everything felt so hard and we're just
just felt like struggles, street things are not feeling great.
And I realized at that moment, you know, a couple
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of my team members resigned, and I'm like, shit, that
all of them can resign, but I can't, Like I
don't get to hand in my resignation letter, even if
I'm having a really terrible experience, I don't get to
go that's it. I quit, because the whole thing is
over if I did that. And I really realized in
that moment, no, okay, I have some non negotiables that
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I need to make sure that I can be sustained
through this and over a long period of time. So
I think, you know, as a business owner with a
spiritual focus, you have to put some of your own
needs first, because otherwise you will not be running your
offering and you will not be serving your people if
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you can't sustain yourself over time. So it's definitely definitely
a balance. And then you know, on the flip side,
I've seen people who are just all about the money
and all they talk about is the leads and the
con persians, And yes, that is important data correct, And
I think, hang on a second, are we dealing with
people here? Are we like, you know, heart to heart connection.
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I've got to be it's so mindful that we're playing
in that balance space. And maybe it is the balance
of the masculine and the feminine. Jeez, maybe it's that
balance of kind of yeah, the heart to heart connection
and then the financial sustainability of a business. I think
oftentimes spiritual entrepreneurs feel the guilt and the greed of
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money without recognized and realizing that they actually do need
the money to allow them to then fully serve their
community and their people.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Definitely, and that's something I always try and remind myself of.
And when I first started manifesting like ever, because I
just had this like this real guilt thing around money
and wanting money, but I just really wanted to be
able to help people, and I realized, well, I can't
actually help people if I don't have, like, I can't,
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I can't donate money, I can't go out and help others.
I can't There's so much I can't do what I'm
restricted by because I myself am literally just trying to
survive every single day.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
And that was like such a game change for me.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
And I'm like, you know, if I've got money, then
I can support smaller businesses. If I've got money, I
can donate. If I've got money, I can travel and
help people I've got And that sort of changed my
perspective on things. So instead of it being like money
for me, I started to go, Okay, well I'll try.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And make money so that I can then help more people.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
And so now I'm in the like trying to balance
the doing it for others and doing it for myself
as well, which is sort of like.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah, and it's hard. It's such a.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Hard thing because you don't want to like, I love
business and I love having a business and building a business,
but then like trying to balance that with you know.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
You also don't want to be seen as like a
bad person.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Or you know, especially as women too, Like it's not
even just spiritual, but like as a woman, you're not
supposed to be too ambitious and you're not supposed to
be too assertive, and like, you know, your business is
being a really fucking nice person, so you have to
like keep that appearance up kind of balance.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
All of those things can feel difficult.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
And I think it's particularly so, like in the spiritual space,
because there is a lot of judgment around that, like, well,
if you're really spiritual, you wouldn't be trying to make
money or a profit out of this, right, Oh, you've
got natural gifts, Like how dare you charge for those gifts?
And I always say like, well, okay, that's nice, and
just you know, like a hard surgeon, they're gifted, aren't
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they They're amazing, they save lives. Like are they meant
to not charge for their services and their skills? No way,
There's no way that we would go like, I'm not
going to pay you, because you should be honoring your gifts.
Even a hairdresser like do we go and get a
haircut and go, oh, you're so gifted, we shouldn't be charging.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's so true.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
Oh, I have just I feel like I've just selfishly
this has almost just been like me just milking information
from you and just like make the most of all
of your wisdom.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
And your business advice and everything. I'm like, I hope
everyone else has been enjoying this as much as I have.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Thank you so much for coming and chatting to me
and sharing like this is such important information and even just.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Like the practicality of tarot. Like what I love about.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Tarot and cards in general is it is a practical tool.
It's like something that you can hold in your hand.
It is something that can just be used when you
need it, which I think like is so important and
something that can really help us get out of our
own heads as well.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yes, and it's beautiful like to use that alongside of
manifesting or you know, creating what you really desire. It's
it is super powerful and it's also like non threatening,
right because you talk about all kinds of topics like
talking ago, some spirits and all that kind of stuff.
That stuff can seem a little bit scary because it's unseen, unknown, right,
(41:11):
Taro is like, well, the card said that I'm going
to meet a nice man on his throne who knows
his emotions. It's there, It's like in the picture, and
so it is a beautiful tangible way to go well, actually,
you know, this is me connecting with my intuition, but
the card tells me is you know it's a nice
bridge between the two realms for sure?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Totally?
Speaker 3 (41:34):
Yeah, Literally, it's a picture, like what is it going
to do to you?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
You can still if you want, you can still look
at it and go no.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Thank you, or you can take heaps of information out
of it.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Thank you so much. Bridget.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Is there anything else, like one last thing that you
feel like you'd love for people to know about Taro,
about manifestation, about anything.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Yeah, I'd say just get started, Like seriously, you know,
I think people get a little bit frightened about the
worry that it's going to take too long to learn
and master, but hopefully, like what you've experienced in this
last hour together is that Taro is actually very easy
to just start using and to use in a very
powerful way. I'd also like to just offer I've put
(42:21):
together a special free guide with the four steps of
intuitive manifesting. So if you want to dive more into
what intuitive manifesting is really about, go over to bitditaro
dot com forward slash four steps and you'll be able
to download that guide for free. Hurrah. Plus you'll also
(42:43):
get all of the details on where to pre order
the Intuitive Manifesting Book as well. So it's a really
great way just to get into it, get started and
start to just experience the magic of Taro and making
your dreams come true.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (42:59):
Thank you so much, and I'll put all of the
information and everything in the show notes. Also, like you
need one of Bridget's tarot decks. I have one and
I use it religiously. It's like basically like the it's bent,
it's in all it's in a well used condition because
it's so great. Thank you so much, Bridget. It's been
(43:21):
such an honor to have you on the podcast. And
I'll make sure that everything is in the show notes
that people can find you and manifest their dream life.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Yay, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
Thank you.
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