September 15, 2024 • 40 mins
Why A Cut-Up Lime Will Keep The Darker Spirits Away (And Have You And Your Kids Sleeping Again!)
Description: This week Mikki chats to the queen of The Lime Hack- psychic/medium Jessica Lynne. Jess chats about how she realised she had the ability to communicate to the dead, how a cut-up lime in her bedroom kept her safe from Spirits and kicked off a global trend and what our loved ones who have passed want us to know.
You can find Jess on Instagram at @jessicalynnemediumship And listen to her own podcast: Talk Spirit To Me
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Apodchey Production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Mickey Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
People are talking to me and they are not physically
in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't
call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's trying
to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,
just bring it on. Let's do it. Crazy Crazy Crazy
the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome
(00:36):
to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady Today. I
definitely have another Village Crazy Lady with me. Jessica Leen
is a very popular medium. She has her own podcast
as well, called Talk Spirit to Me. She is the
Queen of the Lime, which probably makes no fucking sense
(00:56):
to you right now, but we'll get into it. Jess
I'm so excited to have you on. I'm so excited
to have another medium on. I am so excited to
be here, and I mean I can't wait to hear
all about the Lime of it all. I mean, like
it's so interesting because I've even heard other people talking
about it and I'm like, okay, this is like literally
since we tried to tee up this chat and I'm like, okay,
(01:18):
I'm really looking forward to understanding what this lime is.
And I'm also really looking forward to I sort of
said to you before this, like have a conversation sort
of medium to medium, like we were even saying we're
really different. You love doing one on ones and working
one on one with people, whereas like I just really struggle,
(01:40):
not struggle, but I get really zapped working one on one,
and I love working in like groups and on a
collective sort of level. So it's just so interesting, like
just howeveryone works so differently we do.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
We are all so different, and it's so weird because
in the last week i've been talking about this, I've
been starting to think.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know what, I don't know if I'm going to
do my groups anymore. I'm just not sure it's for me.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And then to talk to you today and you're like,
that's my jam and that's what I love to do.
I'm like, we're all kind of figuring out what works
for us.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So it's a time of like clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I feel, yes, I love that, and we're kind of
like the more that we slip into sort of like
what feels really good for us, it just makes space
for other people to sort of thrive where they thrive
as well.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yes, exactly, And there's no one person. There's like a
person for everyone. So you know, if you want a
group collective experience, and clearly they need to come your
wave and if they want more one on one then
that's that's my thing.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That is like I thrive, yes, not for me. Don't
come to me. I say that with love bluff.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You don't come.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Come to a class.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Firstly I want to hear your story, like when did
you start realizing that you could see like dead people
and start talking to them? How does your mediumship work
as well? Because they know you know it's different for everyone.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes, So I've always been very intuitive, like super switched on.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Even as a kid.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I just picked up on things and I just knew stuff,
and I didn't know how I knew it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I just sort of did.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But it wasn't until my nana passed away when I
was twelve that I really started to wonder, like what
else is out there?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Like this just can't be it, she can't be just gone.
So I started to actually had I lived with.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
My granddad really from the time that she passed because
I kept him company and we were kind of two
peas in upon us together, and her ashes were there,
so she was cremated in like a wooden box, and
I used to just sit there with her ashes and
just talk to her and just hope that she could
hear me. And the box of ashes actually had a
really beautiful sweet wooden.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Smell, and every time I was near it, I could
smell it, and then it started.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
To fill the room. Like every time I would sit
with it, I'd be like, this is weird. Now I
can smell it in the whole room, and then it
would expand sometimes and I could smell it rout down
the hallway as well, and I was like, this cannot
be a thing, Like maybe she's trying to show me
she's here through this smell. And I ended up smelling
it like when I was in the supermarket, not even
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near that. So she sort of started small and then
started to connect with me through smell outside of that environment.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So this is when I really started a clue on.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm like, there's something going on here, like that's just
not what everyone experiences. So I started to sort of explore,
like a few years later, meditation and tapping in that way,
and I started doing some classes when I was like
sixteen seventeen, and I just go to the local shop
in like Chelsea, and I'd sit there with these women
and we'd meditate and it was super cool, Like to
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be around people who kind of believed what you did.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's really nice.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And I saw every psychic medium I could find, like
in my twenties. I just loved it so much. I
go to all the mind, body, spirit festivals and I'd
just be one of those like.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Psychic medium groupies. I was just so into it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And one day I saw this lady. She was a medium,
and she said, yes, I don't know why you're here.
I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, why are
you here? You should be sitting on this side of
the like you should be the one telling me what's
going on. You should turn this on and off like
a light switch. And I was like what. I'm like,
I wish, like I really wish I could, but I
don't really know how. And I kind of left it
(05:16):
for a bit and I was like, oh, I'll just
see what happens. And I ended up seeing another medium
and then she was a teacher. She taught it, and
she's like, come along to one of my classes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So I dragged my friend on, like we're going. I'm like,
I don't know what we're going to experience when you're
going to run into the dead today dead. She's like, cool,
all right, So.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
She showed up with me, and within ten minutes we
got paired up with total strangers and had to start
channeling the other side. And I remember I was sitting
with this lady and I instantly started to feel this
man come through and I saw this man that I
knew actually, and I was like, why am I seeing
a man that I know that's past when I meant
to be connecting with this woman's dad. And it ended
(05:57):
up being part of the way that spirit use symbolism
with me. It is to show me somebody that I
know that's passed the same way. So that was my
first dig experience with them connecting my memories in.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Order to show me the information I need to feel.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And that was in the first like five minutes of
my first connection. So it was like floodgates open and
everything just came to fruition and everything started happening, and
I was super excited because I wanted to do this
for so long. And anyway, afterwards, I said to my friend.
I'm like, oh my god, what happened for you? Did
you feel anything.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like what was going on? And she's like, Jess, all
I saw was colors. I was I saw nothing but colors.
And she's like, I feel so stupid. I'm like no,
I'm like, you're more of a healer. I feel like
you have got that healing vibe where you see auras
and you move energy and all that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm like, maybe you're not a medium, but this was
opening your eyes to that, so you knew where to go.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And she hasn't quite done anything with it yet, but
I remember laughing so hard with her. She's like, what
the hell have you brought me to?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I saw shit? All yeah. Yeah, You're like, thank you,
She's like.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Thanks a lot, girl.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No. But from there I ended up doing more classes
with this lady and she mentored me for years, and
I did free readings for anyone who would let me,
and then I got the courage to open up my
business and fast forward, here we are.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I love hearing the stories of how people receive information
because I feel like there's this just I don't know,
this misconception that every single medium literally sees dead people
as though they are like you're fucking like in flesh grammar,
sitting at the end of your bed, like wanting to
have a cup of tea with you. I know, But
(07:33):
it's really it's not that. It's like I always explain
it to people, like it's so obvious, but it's not obvious.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I agree. It's not like a person's just sitting there
staring at you. I've actually only had.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
One experience where it's been a little bit like that,
and it was when it was when I went for
a massage. So whenever I'm in a meditative state or
i'm really relaxed spirit think that it's on. So I
was like laying there in Dodaspa having my relaxation massage,
and all of a sudden I saw this woman standing
at the end of the bed and I was like,
(08:07):
you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm like, no, I'm not open for business.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And she's like one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh, She's like, that's my granddaughter. You have to tell
her that I'm here. And I'm like I'll tell her
when i'm done, right, So you just stay there and
you just not be seen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And she stood there the whole time.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I was like, oh my god, see, only time I've
seen someone that actually I could see the figure. The
rest of the time, it's always in my mind, like
you sort of see things in your mind, but this
was like outside of my body.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
She's a super strong lady that spirit.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yes, okay, I love this so much. And it's so
because I remember when I first was like going through
my whole you know, when I was a kid, I
could see things and same thing as you, Like, I
just knew certain things about people and knew certain things
about everything, and I just felt like I saw things
that other people didn't see and that It wasn't until
(08:57):
I was a lot older when I started to and
I was the same. I was just very interested in spirituality.
I just was like I loved to explore it. And
I'd always go to mediums and they'd say the same
fucking thing that always go why are you here? Yes? Mate,
why do you think I'm here? Read my future? Tell
me what's going on? Like connect to the dead, like
you you know why I'm here. I've paid your money,
(09:19):
And they're like they would say the same thing. You
can do this. You can see the same people I
can see and it wasn't. And I feel like so
so much of it is just that confirmation because it's
just such a lack of trust as well, because you're like,
we've spent so much of our life being told that
what we're experiencing isn't real and it's just your imagination,
and because it isn't just you know, a bless and
(09:40):
blood person sitting at the end of your bed going hey, hi,
oh I'm dead, by the way, that can we try
out I've got a message for you or whatever. It's
kind of like really hard to recognize that that's what
it is.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yes, it's hard at the start, particularly when you're tapping
into this, to trust yourself. It's the biggest hurdle. It's
like every little piece of information, even to this day,
Like I did readings today and sometimes I sit there
and I'm like, God, please let that land.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm like, you never lose that. It's human. The fear
of being wrong is paralyzing heart.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Realizing the amount of times I'm like literally being with
someone and I'm like, their mom's dead. I can see her,
she's she wants to talk to them, But what if
she's alive. What if I'm like what if this isn't
right or whatever, and you're sitting there going, god, I
fucking hope if you if you are taking me on here,
I'm going to make your sob of it. And you're
(10:34):
like did your mom pass away? And they're like yes,
and I'm like, okay, one, thank god, but also sorry,
she's got a message.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And sometimes I hear other mediums and we have to
be so careful the way we say things, because I've
heard people, like other mediums say when someone's like, yes,
my mom passed away and they provide the validation, the
medium goes okay, good.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, they're like all right, great, and they don't mean that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What they mean is you validated the information, so it's good.
But it's made me really be aware of how I
say things. So now I'm like, I'm like okay, and
I'm like I'm so sorry to hear that, or sometimes
I won't say that, I'll be like all right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, I feel like la la lah.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But sometimes you have to be so careful because it's
not great that there.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm dead no no, and I feel like you're so
you're so aware of like the human of it. But
when you're communicating with the dead so often you also
have this kind of like blurred I don't know reality
of it as well, not reality, but you just see
it a bit differently.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's it's normal, Like every single day I'm talking to
dead people, I'm talking about grief and loss. It becomes
so normalized for us that it's not when someone says
or someone passed away, Like my instant reaction isn't the
shock of what it was when I didn't do this,
Like I would be really like, oh my god, and
I still feel terrible for people, Like don't get me wrong,
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but you just sort of it's normalized.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's really weird.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like in a way you almost
just you really understand the grief and hurt of people
a lot because you can even like because you're communicating
with their loved ones as well, you understand that they
know what it's like for them, you know. But like
it's just like you see it in such a different,
beautiful kind of way. So one the nuggets of it all,
(12:25):
like just the little the little nuggets of information, like
as you said at the beginning, a lot of it
is one I'm so terrified that I'm going to give
someone that like what I'm hearing isn't correct. That's scary.
But also it's like I'm being shown all of these
different things and it's up to me to learn what
is and what isn't for me, Like as in like
(12:48):
I know it was the same for me. It's like
if I'm if I'm getting something from the left side,
it means this. If I'm getting it from the right side,
if it means it means this. If it looks like this,
it means such and such, and like same thing. I'd
get like a memory of a movie or something, and
it would be like, oh, okay, right, so it's a
similar situation to that. Or I'd feel something in my
body and I'd be like, why the fuck do I
feel like I can't breathe? Oh okay, they couldn't breathe.
(13:10):
They die that's how they died or whatever. You know.
And it takes a bit of time just really trying
to figure out what those clues are for you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, it does, the symbology. It takes a while to
figure it out. And this is why if someone's getting
started in this area, it's so important to take the
time to practice, Yes, like practice like I did two.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Years of practice.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Anyone, I'm like, please just let me try, like let
me read for you, Like, don't pay anything. I just
want to practice with people and not knowing and getting
the validation because it builds to the trust that you
have within yourself and your confidence and your symbology and
your flow starts to go too. Like I don't know
about you, but when I first started, everything felt clunky. Yeah,
it was like you got a little piece of information,
then it stopped, and then you have to search again,
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and then you have to search again. Whereas now it
probably feels how it does for me, where it kind
of just flows. You're onto the next thing, onto the
next thing, and then the person validates and you're thinking
about the next piece of information and it kind of
just goes, but takes time time to get there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's not an overnight thing.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
No, one hundred percent. It definitely is a practice thing.
I spent years practicing too. I would actually like get
a bit drunk with my friend. When I was a
bit drunk, I felt confident and okay, yeah, I'd be
like guys, to be honest with you, I can actually
see dead people. I can talk to them and communicate
with them. And then they'd be like, oh my god,
(14:29):
that's so interesting, and I'd be like, oh, I can
see your timelines, like who wants a reading? And that
I'd be so good. They're like channeling their grandma or something,
and we're like fifteen Margarita's deep, Oh my god. Health.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Hey, whatever works to get you like in that confident space.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know. Look, I'm not recommending that as like a
practice course. That was young.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We show up today.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sure she is not how I do it now, but look,
you got to do whatever works. Tell us about the
line and how did you get there. Tell us the story,
the journey and how a lime can help us.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay, So this all started when I had a dark
entity that was attached to me. And the only reason
I knew that was because one morning I woke up, well,
I was kind of like half asleep, you know, on
your half my sleep half awake. It was like five
point thirty in the morning or something. Jade had already
gone to work, and I was like, oh, that's really
weird because I feel like she's like coming back into
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the room because I felt this energy come in and
I was like, oh, maybe she feels shit, and she's
like going to stay home. So I felt like someone
like sit on the bed, and then I felt like
this breath on my neck, and then I felt like
this scratch down my back.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And I was like, I'm like, she doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I'm like, oh my god, there's somewhere in my room
my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
What the hell am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I was terrified, and I was like, I don't know
what I'm what am I gonna do? Am I going
to pretend I'm asleep? Am I going to like run
for the hills?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And in that moment, I'm like, I have to get
out of here. So I went to grab the person's
arm because I could feel something right behind me, and
I turned and then there was nothing there, and I
was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm like, hell no, this is not happening.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That is like my absolute worst nightmare, like someone coming
into the room and you can't get out and there's
no one home. So it's almost like this entity got
into my brain and was playing out like one of
my greatest fears for me, like a TV movie.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I was like, Nah, this is not on.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
So I did what any spiritual chick would do. I
was like woke up straight away. I'm like, all right,
I'm getting the sage the Palasanto, just chanting, doing anything
I could to get rid of this entity off me.
And I felt a bit better after I did that,
and I was but I rang my kinesiologist. I'm like,
all right, I'm not playing, like I need you to
get me off the table and see if you can
feel anything if I've got rid of them or not.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And she's like, cool, all right, come over. I laid down.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
She tried a few different things, and then she ended
up doing something. She's like, I'm just going to try
this on your feet. I'm like, okay, you do you
and she's like, Jess, it's gone. And I was like, oh,
that's really weird because I was about to tell you
I feel really grounded now, like whatever you just did worked.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And I said what did you do?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And she goes, I put lime essential oil on your feet,
and I'm like, oh, I'm like all right, I need lime.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So she's like, just put a little bit of this essential.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oil like on a cotton swab and put it in
your room tonight, just to make sure it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Doesn't come back. And I'm like, I'll do you one better.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'm getting a lime and I'm going to cut it
in half and I'm going to put the two halves
in a dish beside my bed and just pray that
it soaks up all the vibes. Because I started to
read up on limes and they're a really beautiful cleansing agent,
so they read negative fear based energies, any spirits that
don't belong in your space. Many cultures have used this
for years, but no one's just actively talking about it.
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So I started to share it because I felt great
after I put the limes in, I slept like a baby.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'm like, this is a thing.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And then it went viral, but everyone started asking me
about it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Moms are like, can I do it with my kids?
Can I just put it in their.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Room to make them like sleep really well and rid
the energy. I'm like, you may as well give it
a shot, and they did.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
All over the world.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
All my real went crazy, and all these mums a
messaging me going, oh my god, yess, my kids are
sleeping like twelve hours and they've never slept through the
night in their lives, and they're saying that there's no
more monsters in their room. And there's no weird lady
standing by the door anymore. Like it's just change the
world crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Everyone's like, okay, we're all cutting up blines tonight and
putting them out in our rooms.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes, it is the thing, and I find too when
you send an intention for it, everything's so much more powerful.
So if you believe and you put them there with
the intention of ridding any negative energies, any spirits that
don't belong there, anyone playing funny buggers at night, it
will clear it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It will be amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I was wondering. I'm like, isn't it Is it an
intention thing? Like could you do it to anything? Or
do you think it's almost just like the lime as well?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh, it's definitely the lime, like because sometimes you know,
parents are putting it in the kids rooms and they're
not telling the kids that they're putting it in there
or why they are, and it's still having the effect.
So I don't think think it's a placebo. I just
feel like there's when you have more intention around things,
it tends to be more powerful, So I think it
has a better effect. It's kind of like with anything
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like when you sage, if you just walk around saging like,
that's cool, it'll probably do half the job. But if
you deal with the intention of getting rid of things
and like clearing the space and you're walking around thinking
about that, I just feel like there's more of an effect.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes and no. I wonder whether it's got something to
do almost like with the consent as well, because you know,
like obviously spirits or whatever, they there's if you say,
like make sure, if you're like absolutely you were not
allowed in this space, I like, you know you've consent,
you haven't consented to them being new around you, whatever else,
then they know they have to like they can't. So
(19:50):
I wonder whether it's almost like they like they're like
the line that means absolutely fucking not. That's like the
human safe word.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well it's it's obviously becoming that they're recognizing it, going
oh okay, this is a hell no situation.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know. That's what I'm wondering. I'm like, they're like
sitting out of the reels, are going crazy. They're like, well, guys,
the last group, Yeah, I'm absolutely trying. I'm doing that today.
Anyone listening, we're all trying limes. So putting limes in
our room. We'll see what happens, especially with kids, because
like obviously I get a lot of I've got three kids,
and I get a lot of people like contacting me
(20:26):
who have children who see things and experience things and everything,
And it's always really interesting trying to like balance protecting
them but also like them protecting themselves, but also like
not making it like a scary thing or like you know,
trying to create that connection between them and spirit and everything.
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Like one of my sons, he's a crazy medium. Like
the shit he sees is insane and it's so normal
for me, but he was really scared for a really
long time, even though it was the most normal thing
in our house to like talk about, you know, spirits
and all sorts of things. And it took him a
long time to not be afraid of them. But I
would always say to I would always be like, just
(21:08):
don't let him see you, Like, hang the fucker. I
know you like like him. I know you, I know
you like him, but just like just honestly, just don't
let him see you until he's like ready, and he
doesn't like he sees them, He's like, oh, I'm playing
with my friends tonight, he's like, got my ghost friends.
I'm like, oh my god, like I want to hang
(21:29):
out too.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So good. Oh well, all right, let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The mediumship thing again, because like I actually realize I
don't think i've I mean, I've had a lot of
sort of mediums and stuff on the podcast, but it's
normally someone who does something and is it's not someone
who's like what I do is do one on one
readings every single day. What do you think as a
medium who speaks to the dead all the fucking time,
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what do you think people's loved ones want us to
know more than anything or what seems to just be
like I don't know, like a general message or something
that you know, you wish people knew.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I feel like a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Of the messages I get from spirit are around like closure.
It's like closure, like it was okay that you didn't
make it to say goodbye, or it was supposed to
be this way, or you know, don't feel guilty that
we didn't find out sooner what was going on with me?
Like it was all supposed to unfold the way that
it was. There wasn't anything else that you could have done.
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A lot of what people bring to readings is guilt
and burdens and not knowing. And I feel like if
you're carrying that around, I can tell you right now
that they don't want you to feel that way. You're
not supposed to be carrying that at all. They want
you to know there at peace and everything unfortunately was
supposed to be the way that it was.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You couldn't have changed that if.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You got there earlier that day, or you know, you
hadn't have made that call.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And it's like, we can't do that to ourselves, so
you have to stop torturing yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's so interesting. I did a workshop the other day
that was literally like helping people connect to loved ones
and like sort of teaching them how they can connect
to their loved ones. And the message that spirit gave
me to share with everyone was like, please don't feel guilt.
Please don't feel guilty, and exactly what you said, there
wasn't anything else you could have done. There wasn't anything
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you've done wrong. Like the last thing we ever wanted
to feel is guilt because it doesn't help you. It
makes no difference to us, Like we can just see
that you're hurting, and we just wish that like, we
just wish that we could take that hurt away from you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm actually glad that we've both had that first thing
come to mind, because it is really important that you
know that they've let go of all of that. And
I think too, some of the conversations that we have
here we hang on to that and we're like, oh,
this is the last thing I said to them. I
can't believe that. You know, I didn't say this or
I didn't say that. I always say a lot and
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I love this. I'm not sure which spirit said it
this way, but now I say it like this quite often.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's all just human stuff. Yeah, They're like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
That's all conversations and things that happened, and they don't
worry about those things.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's just stuff that we have when we're here.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But souls and our connections to each other, that's what matters,
and that's what lives on. The love within the connection
that we share doesn't matter about the little the human stuff,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yes, and their memories, Like that's something that I feel
like I'm just realizing, well not even realizing, but learning
more and more from spirits, is the significance of memories.
And how that's essentially why they even come down, because
they're coming they're basically just collect they're like learning, they're
like collecting all of these memories, and then they take
those memories on with them and then they like you know,
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share their memories with others, and so they're like constantly
just learning and evolving and from these memories. So like,
as you said, you know, you can sit there and
go like, you know, I didn't get to have that
last conversation, But all they're thinking about is all of
those Like they're bringing all of those memories that you've
had together with them.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yes, and that's what matters. It's the connection you've shared.
It's you know, the love you've had for each other.
That's what lives on, not those last little moments that
maybe weren't exactly the way you would have hoped that
they would have been. It doesn't sum up your whole connection.
So we have to look at the whole rather than
looking at all the little pieces.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yes, what kind of spirits do you communicate with? Like
are they just fast blood ones? Angels, your smiriteam galactics?
Like what have you seen?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So for me, it's mostly loved ones. Yeah, I can
connect with animals too. That's amazing. I love that, yeah,
pretty much. But I have had animals that have come
through from the start because someone said, I really want
to connect dog, and it's ended up being the dog
giving the whole messages like all of them for the
rest of the reading.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So it's super cool to feel like.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Your animals are over there watching you, like your human
loved ones. Good, Yeah, sort of, it's really cool, but yeah,
mostly loved ones animals. I can also connect with people
who are still living, who are living with dementia or
a nonverbal So that's a really powerful thing that I've
come across and is really healing for a lot of
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people who are watching somebody in that state and aren't
sure if they're aware of what's going on.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's really interesting What comes through often in those sorts
of situations with someone who's like nonverbal or has.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Dementia, it's usually around them wanting to give I guess
reassurance to that person that they know what they're doing,
they know what's going on, they know that they're showing
up for them. Also, I've actually had somebody come through
to let the person know that's like looking after them
the things that maybe they need more of, or the
things that might be making them sick, or like I've
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had things like oh, I don't stop feeding me that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That apple stuff, and I was like, what are you
feeding them? And they're like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I was actually thinking that I'm going to change up
what I'm giving them because we've been giving them.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Apple for a while.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And I was like, I feel like they need pair now,
well they need something else, and they're like I was
just thinking that, but I wasn't sure, and I was like, well,
I don't like that, so go to something new. So
sometimes it's just like little pieces of information to just
validate that they know. So if you've got someone who's
living with this, know that their mind is wandering to
the spirit world and when they don't feel like they're
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present with you, it's because they're actually present with the
other side and they're not suffering in their minds. They
are traveling to the spirit world and back and they're
finding that peace and closure in those moments.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That is so beautiful. I've connected with a few like
dementia patients, but never lack anyone non verbal, and it's
interesting they say sort of similar things like I need
more of this less that well, like you know, and
just and same thing. It's like they're going back and
forth as well, like they're there and then they're not.
How about like spirit babies. Do you connect your spirit babies?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yes? I love spirit babies. They're my favorite. Energy is so.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Beautiful and so funny, like they're always just full of
life and excited and no worries and no fuss and
they're just coming in on their own time.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, and they like they know what they want to,
like they're often like a little bit sassy like sometimes
like it's like their personalities are very much their personalities.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, they're already intact.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And I love being able to tell like the expected mother,
I'm like, oh, I'm connecting with your baby.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And she's like this and she's like, oh shit, like
what am I in store for?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And I'm like you'll see. And then they come out
and they're like.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh my god, she's exactly the way that you said
she was going to be.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So it's so it's really cool to be able to
give that little gift to the mum to be as well.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yes, And I love like how normalized it almost is
now for people. You know, people are pregnant, they're like
connecting to their spirit baby, or they're not even they're
like I like so many people I know who I
just never would have imagined would be you know, remotely
wo win the slightest they're like, oh, you know, I
can feel a spirit baby around and I've been like,
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my spirit baby's connecting to me, or when they are pregnant.
And I think because like now that we're sort of
so open to so much more, like it's just such
a different world now, and it's so exciting for people
like you and I like you and I where it's
almost like we can just be free and brs and
be weird.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, and like it's normalized totally.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, it's getting them thinks it's all right, I love it.
But like, you know, people are really starting to connect
like with these little beings and starting to connect with
like and even to be to see children as souls
as well, I think is so powerful and is changing
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a lot of how we parent because it's not like
they've come on down and you know, our job as
parents is to tell them what to do and teach
them att life and all of that kind of thing
and you're seen and not heard, and or the other
way around heard and also nope, that's seen, not her.
You're right. But now like these these little spirits are
coming down and we understand that there's like this dance
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between parent and child where like we're here to help
them be human because we've been doing it for longer,
but they're here to teach us so much shit, Like
they're here to just evolve us in a really like
spectacular way.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I found the same thing a lot of mums. I'm like, Wow,
your daughter's here to heal you. I'm like, it's like
you see yourself in her, or like she'll trigger things
in you, but it's actually to help you recognize parts
of yourself that still need healing, and you'll heal yourself
through parenting your child.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yes, children do that to us.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They're like little mirrors, yes, for sure, mirrors.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
How some other ways that you find that the loved
ones really want to connect with like people on.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Earth through like signs, signs and symbols, and that's how
you can connect with your own loved ones. And I
like to say, don't wait for a sign, ask yeah them,
be like hey, I haven't heard from you guys in
a while, like where are you? Like, if you want
to connect with your nana, be like all right, Nana,
Like you show me a sign, ask for a specific
one and just see what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yes, And I always say to people, if you think it,
if you think it is, it is, like and even
the fact that if you see someone and you think
of them, it's them, you know, like I'll have to
I often find like when I'm connecting to loved ones,
like really interestingly, they they keep showing me even like
they'll show up in like books or something like they'll
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be reading a passage for example, and it's just like
one paragraph and as they're reading that, they're like thinking
about their mum or whatever it is, and it's like
those words are like from her to you.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oh I love that. But it's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But it's like in ways, and it's also like funny
as well, like spiritual. So they love to make you,
especially in a time where you're grieving. They love to
bring a lightness.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yes, I agree, and that's why I say with my
readings too, it's like, yes, we will go deep and
we need to go wherever we need to go.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But a lot of it's light. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's like they're reminding you of some of the weird
things they've done, all the things you've done together, or
they come through with their.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Sas and we just laugh at like their personality.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like I just think it's nice sometimes to have the
lightness with the darker energy and that like grief in
the trenches of life loss, Like, we can't stay in that.
That's not healthy for us to be living in that
grief energy. We have to be able to find a
way to see the lightness or to.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Jump in and out of that.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So I think that spirit in readings really do that beautifully.
They jump in and out of the lightness to the grief,
and they sort of just make you feel better. I
always find that we always walk away from readings feeling
so much lighter, both of us really.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And I feel like they even sort of were saying
to me the other day, like about the lightness and
the darkness, especially like when we're feeling grief, because often
when people are grieving, they feel really guilty to feel
anything else the second they feel anything other than grief
and sadness, Like if they they feel this like this guilt,
Like I shouldn't be feeling this whereas like spirit is like,
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but that's impossible, Like you should be like smiling as
much as you're grieving, Like there's so much beauty in
the world, Like it could be the most horrible day
in the whole wide world, and yet there's still like
a sunset or a sunrise, and they're still laughter. There's
still funny things, and you shouldn't be denying yourself of that.
Like it's as much to feel as it is to
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feel the grief.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I agree. You need to try to ride the wave.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
That's I like to call it, you know, if you're
feeling a certain way, like I've been through the same things.
I've lost a lot of people in my life. I've
had a lot of really shitty things happen with.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Me, and I just surrender to it all. Now I'm
kind of like, you know what.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
At one point I said to my wife, I was
just crying one night, just in the kitchen. I wasn't
hysterically crying, just tears. We're just rolling down my face
and she's like, are you okay, And I'm like, don't worry,
just let them go.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I just kept going on with my business. I'm just
crying around the house and I didn't even know why,
but I was like, obviously I need a release.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm just like just restingtically moving through my body.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, but you just let yourself if you feel it,
you know, just let it go, like allow it to
come out, because you'll find that one day you'll just
stop crying and it'll be done, you know, and you
might randomly feel that way, but it won't be that
consistent energy. I feel like the more we try to
stop things, or we try to control how we're feeling,
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or oh I should be over it by now, or
I can't still be crying or whatever, it's like who says,
like but why not, Like don't hold back, Like that's
you processing.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
We need to process to move forward and to heal.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yes. Actually, even something came up the other day when
I was like connecting to spirit and they were talking about,
you know, grief and connecting to loved ones, and they
were saying, often they'll like even make themselves known and
like you'll feel them so that you can actually feel
and process that grief because you know, often sometimes at
the time when it's all happening and it is like
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this constant thing and often we'll keep it in our
bodies and it will stay stagnant. So they'll sort of
like you'll remember them, or like you'll have a moment
where you just will miss them so much and you'll
have that real physical reaction where you'll like cry and
you'll feel it all. And they're like, we're actually helping
you move it, we're helping you process it.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, so don't deny it, just allow it to unfold.
And like the thing is, I.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Was in the kitchen, I was at home, there was
no one around, and they chose that moment.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm like cool.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm like, I'm glad you've chosen this moment. So sometimes
they do it for you. They're like, all right, she's
got a night where she's got no one around. Just
let it all happen, let it all out, and then
I can wake up the next day. And I always
like to think too that tomorrow's another day. Tomorrow will
be better. Tomorrow you'll wake up and it might hurt
just a little bit less, or you might have a
confident day, or just allow yourself to Yeah, as I said,
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ride the way, it's important.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Can you think of any readings that have felt or
like moments in readings that have felt extremely significant, where
it's like it was such a like learning moment, or
in a harm moment, or like that was fucking crazy moment.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
There's so many of them, hope, and all the time,
which is so great and I love it too. And
I think the most amazing readings are where you needed
the to hear that stuff too. It's like sometimes I
sit there and I'm like, wow, I'm like that was
really powerful.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And you know what, I find really sweet too.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Sometimes if I've had a really like crappy moment before reading,
or I felt a bit emotional myself, or maybe something's
just gone wrong and I can't quite get it out
of my head, but I know I need to because
I have to read for someone right now. Sometimes I'll
sit there and I'll start to channel for them, and
even before I know who the person is, that step forward.
Sometimes other people's loved ones give me comfort.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's really quite sweet. So one time I heard this
lady and she was like, she's like, it's all right, love.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
She's like, You've got this, don't worry, everything will be better.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
You just relax and breathe right now and we'll get
through this. One together, and I.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Was like, oh my god, I'm like, this is somebody's
love one.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You don't know me from a bar of.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Soap, but you are making sure I'm okay before we
start the reading.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I know they're the most amazing ones, but I'm like,
you are making me feel like you're my nana right now,
or you're someone who's like coming in to give me
what I need so that I can be the.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Best version of myself for the person that I'm reading for.
Who you love?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I love that so much. So how do you like
set up your reading? Like as in like when you're
calling people in, is it just like whoever just pops
in like they're coming through for that person. Have you
ever been surprised by who's coming or who hasn't come in?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah. So usually when I start to read for somebody,
I'll ask them if there's anyone in particular they want
to connect with. Some people are like, yep, I want
to connect with a woman or a man or whatever.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
So I kind of go in the direction they're hoping for.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
But sometimes people just leave it open, so we just
go with whoever comes forward.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
A lot of the time when we go with the flow.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
There are times where people step forward and they're like,
oh my god, like I haven't thought about that person
in years, or I haven't seen them for so long,
or I never met them, And I'm like, well, they're
coming through so strongly because they want you to know
that they've been watching in your whole life, and regardless
of if you've had a physical connection here in the
physical world, it doesn't take away the sole connection that
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you still have with them and that they know of
you and there've been a guide to you. So I
kind of like those moments where we get a little
bit shocked by who's here.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yes, we should probably start to wrap it up, But
is there anything else? You feel like a loved ones
well loved ones would love everyone to know that.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You're never going to disappoint them. Oh, it's a massive
message I always get. There is not one single day
that goes by that you disappoint anyone on the other side.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So you just do you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yes, I love that. That's a perfect way to end. Yes,
I mean tell us, how how do people book in
a reading with you? How do they find about about
the limes? I mean, I mean it's pretty like straightforward.
You cut a line up and you put it in
a room. Information.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, so you can follow me on Instagram or TikTok
at Jessica Lin Mediumship or my website is Jessica Lynn
Mediumship dot com or as you said at the start,
I have my own podcast called Talk Spirit to Me
on Apple or Spotify, so and check us out.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Amazing And I have all of those in the show
notes as well.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Thank you so much, jess thank you, thank you,
Apodchey Production.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
I'm Mickey Fisher and welcome to the Village Crazy Lady.
People are talking to me and they are not physically
in this room, so just strap in for that. Can't
call me crazy, so I said it first. Whoever's trying
to come through, whatever messages need to come through, like,
just bring it on. Let's do it. Crazy Crazy Crazy
the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome
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to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady Today. I
definitely have another Village Crazy Lady with me. Jessica Leen
is a very popular medium. She has her own podcast
as well, called Talk Spirit to Me. She is the
Queen of the Lime, which probably makes no fucking sense
(00:56):
to you right now, but we'll get into it. Jess
I'm so excited to have you on. I'm so excited
to have another medium on. I am so excited to
be here, and I mean I can't wait to hear
all about the Lime of it all. I mean, like
it's so interesting because I've even heard other people talking
about it and I'm like, okay, this is like literally
since we tried to tee up this chat and I'm like, okay,
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I'm really looking forward to understanding what this lime is.
And I'm also really looking forward to I sort of
said to you before this, like have a conversation sort
of medium to medium, like we were even saying we're
really different. You love doing one on ones and working
one on one with people, whereas like I just really struggle,
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not struggle, but I get really zapped working one on one,
and I love working in like groups and on a
collective sort of level. So it's just so interesting, like
just howeveryone works so differently we do.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
We are all so different, and it's so weird because
in the last week i've been talking about this, I've
been starting to think.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
You know what, I don't know if I'm going to
do my groups anymore. I'm just not sure it's for me.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
And then to talk to you today and you're like,
that's my jam and that's what I love to do.
I'm like, we're all kind of figuring out what works
for us.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
So it's a time of like clarity.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
I feel, yes, I love that, and we're kind of
like the more that we slip into sort of like
what feels really good for us, it just makes space
for other people to sort of thrive where they thrive
as well.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Yes, exactly, And there's no one person. There's like a
person for everyone. So you know, if you want a
group collective experience, and clearly they need to come your
wave and if they want more one on one then
that's that's my thing.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
That is like I thrive, yes, not for me. Don't
come to me. I say that with love bluff.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
You don't come.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Come to a class.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Firstly I want to hear your story, like when did
you start realizing that you could see like dead people
and start talking to them? How does your mediumship work
as well? Because they know you know it's different for everyone.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yes, So I've always been very intuitive, like super switched on.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Even as a kid.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I just picked up on things and I just knew stuff,
and I didn't know how I knew it.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I just sort of did.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
But it wasn't until my nana passed away when I
was twelve that I really started to wonder, like what
else is out there?
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Like this just can't be it, she can't be just gone.
So I started to actually had I lived with.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
My granddad really from the time that she passed because
I kept him company and we were kind of two
peas in upon us together, and her ashes were there,
so she was cremated in like a wooden box, and
I used to just sit there with her ashes and
just talk to her and just hope that she could
hear me. And the box of ashes actually had a
really beautiful sweet wooden.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Smell, and every time I was near it, I could
smell it, and then it started.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
To fill the room. Like every time I would sit
with it, I'd be like, this is weird. Now I
can smell it in the whole room, and then it
would expand sometimes and I could smell it rout down
the hallway as well, and I was like, this cannot
be a thing, Like maybe she's trying to show me
she's here through this smell. And I ended up smelling
it like when I was in the supermarket, not even
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near that. So she sort of started small and then
started to connect with me through smell outside of that environment.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
So this is when I really started a clue on.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'm like, there's something going on here, like that's just
not what everyone experiences. So I started to sort of explore,
like a few years later, meditation and tapping in that way,
and I started doing some classes when I was like
sixteen seventeen, and I just go to the local shop
in like Chelsea, and I'd sit there with these women
and we'd meditate and it was super cool, Like to
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be around people who kind of believed what you did.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
It's really nice.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And I saw every psychic medium I could find, like
in my twenties. I just loved it so much. I
go to all the mind, body, spirit festivals and I'd
just be one of those like.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Psychic medium groupies. I was just so into it.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And one day I saw this lady. She was a medium,
and she said, yes, I don't know why you're here.
I'm like, what do you mean? She goes, why are
you here? You should be sitting on this side of
the like you should be the one telling me what's
going on. You should turn this on and off like
a light switch. And I was like what. I'm like,
I wish, like I really wish I could, but I
don't really know how. And I kind of left it
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for a bit and I was like, oh, I'll just
see what happens. And I ended up seeing another medium
and then she was a teacher. She taught it, and
she's like, come along to one of my classes.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So I dragged my friend on, like we're going. I'm like,
I don't know what we're going to experience when you're
going to run into the dead today dead. She's like, cool,
all right, So.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
She showed up with me, and within ten minutes we
got paired up with total strangers and had to start
channeling the other side. And I remember I was sitting
with this lady and I instantly started to feel this
man come through and I saw this man that I
knew actually, and I was like, why am I seeing
a man that I know that's past when I meant
to be connecting with this woman's dad. And it ended
(05:57):
up being part of the way that spirit use symbolism
with me. It is to show me somebody that I
know that's passed the same way. So that was my
first dig experience with them connecting my memories in.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Order to show me the information I need to feel.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
And that was in the first like five minutes of
my first connection. So it was like floodgates open and
everything just came to fruition and everything started happening, and
I was super excited because I wanted to do this
for so long. And anyway, afterwards, I said to my friend.
I'm like, oh my god, what happened for you? Did
you feel anything.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Like what was going on? And she's like, Jess, all
I saw was colors. I was I saw nothing but colors.
And she's like, I feel so stupid. I'm like no,
I'm like, you're more of a healer. I feel like
you have got that healing vibe where you see auras
and you move energy and all that.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I'm like, maybe you're not a medium, but this was
opening your eyes to that, so you knew where to go.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
And she hasn't quite done anything with it yet, but
I remember laughing so hard with her. She's like, what
the hell have you brought me to?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I saw shit? All yeah. Yeah, You're like, thank you,
She's like.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Thanks a lot, girl.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
No. But from there I ended up doing more classes
with this lady and she mentored me for years, and
I did free readings for anyone who would let me,
and then I got the courage to open up my
business and fast forward, here we are.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I love hearing the stories of how people receive information
because I feel like there's this just I don't know,
this misconception that every single medium literally sees dead people
as though they are like you're fucking like in flesh grammar,
sitting at the end of your bed, like wanting to
have a cup of tea with you. I know, But
(07:33):
it's really it's not that. It's like I always explain
it to people, like it's so obvious, but it's not obvious.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I agree. It's not like a person's just sitting there
staring at you. I've actually only had.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
One experience where it's been a little bit like that,
and it was when it was when I went for
a massage. So whenever I'm in a meditative state or
i'm really relaxed spirit think that it's on. So I
was like laying there in Dodaspa having my relaxation massage,
and all of a sudden I saw this woman standing
at the end of the bed and I was like,
(08:07):
you've got to be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm like, no, I'm not open for business.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
And she's like one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Oh, She's like, that's my granddaughter. You have to tell
her that I'm here. And I'm like I'll tell her
when i'm done, right, So you just stay there and
you just not be seen.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
And she stood there the whole time.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I was like, oh my god, see, only time I've
seen someone that actually I could see the figure. The
rest of the time, it's always in my mind, like
you sort of see things in your mind, but this
was like outside of my body.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
She's a super strong lady that spirit.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yes, okay, I love this so much. And it's so
because I remember when I first was like going through
my whole you know, when I was a kid, I
could see things and same thing as you, Like, I
just knew certain things about people and knew certain things
about everything, and I just felt like I saw things
that other people didn't see and that It wasn't until
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I was a lot older when I started to and
I was the same. I was just very interested in spirituality.
I just was like I loved to explore it. And
I'd always go to mediums and they'd say the same
fucking thing that always go why are you here? Yes? Mate,
why do you think I'm here? Read my future? Tell
me what's going on? Like connect to the dead, like
you you know why I'm here. I've paid your money,
(09:19):
And they're like they would say the same thing. You
can do this. You can see the same people I
can see and it wasn't. And I feel like so
so much of it is just that confirmation because it's
just such a lack of trust as well, because you're like,
we've spent so much of our life being told that
what we're experiencing isn't real and it's just your imagination,
and because it isn't just you know, a bless and
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blood person sitting at the end of your bed going hey, hi,
oh I'm dead, by the way, that can we try
out I've got a message for you or whatever. It's
kind of like really hard to recognize that that's what
it is.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yes, it's hard at the start, particularly when you're tapping
into this, to trust yourself. It's the biggest hurdle. It's
like every little piece of information, even to this day,
Like I did readings today and sometimes I sit there
and I'm like, God, please let that land.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I'm like, you never lose that. It's human. The fear
of being wrong is paralyzing heart.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Realizing the amount of times I'm like literally being with
someone and I'm like, their mom's dead. I can see her,
she's she wants to talk to them, But what if
she's alive. What if I'm like what if this isn't
right or whatever, and you're sitting there going, god, I
fucking hope if you if you are taking me on here,
I'm going to make your sob of it. And you're
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like did your mom pass away? And they're like yes,
and I'm like, okay, one, thank god, but also sorry,
she's got a message.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
And sometimes I hear other mediums and we have to
be so careful the way we say things, because I've
heard people, like other mediums say when someone's like, yes,
my mom passed away and they provide the validation, the
medium goes okay, good.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, they're like all right, great, and they don't mean that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
What they mean is you validated the information, so it's good.
But it's made me really be aware of how I
say things. So now I'm like, I'm like okay, and
I'm like I'm so sorry to hear that, or sometimes
I won't say that, I'll be like all right.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Well, I feel like la la lah.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
But sometimes you have to be so careful because it's
not great that there.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
I'm dead no no, and I feel like you're so
you're so aware of like the human of it. But
when you're communicating with the dead so often you also
have this kind of like blurred I don't know reality
of it as well, not reality, but you just see
it a bit differently.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
It's it's normal, Like every single day I'm talking to
dead people, I'm talking about grief and loss. It becomes
so normalized for us that it's not when someone says
or someone passed away, Like my instant reaction isn't the
shock of what it was when I didn't do this,
Like I would be really like, oh my god, and
I still feel terrible for people, Like don't get me wrong,
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but you just sort of it's normalized.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It's really weird.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like in a way you almost
just you really understand the grief and hurt of people
a lot because you can even like because you're communicating
with their loved ones as well, you understand that they
know what it's like for them, you know. But like
it's just like you see it in such a different,
beautiful kind of way. So one the nuggets of it all,
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like just the little the little nuggets of information, like
as you said at the beginning, a lot of it
is one I'm so terrified that I'm going to give
someone that like what I'm hearing isn't correct. That's scary.
But also it's like I'm being shown all of these
different things and it's up to me to learn what
is and what isn't for me, Like as in like
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I know it was the same for me. It's like
if I'm if I'm getting something from the left side,
it means this. If I'm getting it from the right side,
if it means it means this. If it looks like this,
it means such and such, and like same thing. I'd
get like a memory of a movie or something, and
it would be like, oh, okay, right, so it's a
similar situation to that. Or I'd feel something in my
body and I'd be like, why the fuck do I
feel like I can't breathe? Oh okay, they couldn't breathe.
(13:10):
They die that's how they died or whatever. You know.
And it takes a bit of time just really trying
to figure out what those clues are for you.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, it does, the symbology. It takes a while to
figure it out. And this is why if someone's getting
started in this area, it's so important to take the
time to practice, Yes, like practice like I did two.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Years of practice.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Anyone, I'm like, please just let me try, like let
me read for you, Like, don't pay anything. I just
want to practice with people and not knowing and getting
the validation because it builds to the trust that you
have within yourself and your confidence and your symbology and
your flow starts to go too. Like I don't know
about you, but when I first started, everything felt clunky. Yeah,
it was like you got a little piece of information,
then it stopped, and then you have to search again,
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and then you have to search again. Whereas now it
probably feels how it does for me, where it kind
of just flows. You're onto the next thing, onto the
next thing, and then the person validates and you're thinking
about the next piece of information and it kind of
just goes, but takes time time to get there.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's not an overnight thing.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
No, one hundred percent. It definitely is a practice thing.
I spent years practicing too. I would actually like get
a bit drunk with my friend. When I was a
bit drunk, I felt confident and okay, yeah, I'd be
like guys, to be honest with you, I can actually
see dead people. I can talk to them and communicate
with them. And then they'd be like, oh my god,
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that's so interesting, and I'd be like, oh, I can
see your timelines, like who wants a reading? And that
I'd be so good. They're like channeling their grandma or something,
and we're like fifteen Margarita's deep, Oh my god. Health.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
Hey, whatever works to get you like in that confident space.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You know. Look, I'm not recommending that as like a
practice course. That was young.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
We show up today.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Sure she is not how I do it now, but look,
you got to do whatever works. Tell us about the
line and how did you get there. Tell us the story,
the journey and how a lime can help us.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Okay, So this all started when I had a dark
entity that was attached to me. And the only reason
I knew that was because one morning I woke up, well,
I was kind of like half asleep, you know, on
your half my sleep half awake. It was like five
point thirty in the morning or something. Jade had already
gone to work, and I was like, oh, that's really
weird because I feel like she's like coming back into
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the room because I felt this energy come in and
I was like, oh, maybe she feels shit, and she's
like going to stay home. So I felt like someone
like sit on the bed, and then I felt like
this breath on my neck, and then I felt like
this scratch down my back.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And I was like, I'm like, she doesn't do that.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I'm like, oh my god, there's somewhere in my room
my worst nightmare.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
What the hell am I going to do?
Speaker 3 (15:50):
I was terrified, and I was like, I don't know
what I'm what am I gonna do? Am I going
to pretend I'm asleep? Am I going to like run
for the hills?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Like? I don't know?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
And in that moment, I'm like, I have to get
out of here. So I went to grab the person's
arm because I could feel something right behind me, and
I turned and then there was nothing there, and I
was like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'm like, hell no, this is not happening.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That is like my absolute worst nightmare, like someone coming
into the room and you can't get out and there's
no one home. So it's almost like this entity got
into my brain and was playing out like one of
my greatest fears for me, like a TV movie.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I was like, Nah, this is not on.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
So I did what any spiritual chick would do. I
was like woke up straight away. I'm like, all right,
I'm getting the sage the Palasanto, just chanting, doing anything
I could to get rid of this entity off me.
And I felt a bit better after I did that,
and I was but I rang my kinesiologist. I'm like,
all right, I'm not playing, like I need you to
get me off the table and see if you can
feel anything if I've got rid of them or not.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
And she's like, cool, all right, come over. I laid down.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
She tried a few different things, and then she ended
up doing something. She's like, I'm just going to try
this on your feet. I'm like, okay, you do you
and she's like, Jess, it's gone. And I was like, oh,
that's really weird because I was about to tell you
I feel really grounded now, like whatever you just did worked.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And I said what did you do?
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And she goes, I put lime essential oil on your feet,
and I'm like, oh, I'm like all right, I need lime.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
So she's like, just put a little bit of this essential.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Oil like on a cotton swab and put it in
your room tonight, just to make sure it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Doesn't come back. And I'm like, I'll do you one better.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
I'm getting a lime and I'm going to cut it
in half and I'm going to put the two halves
in a dish beside my bed and just pray that
it soaks up all the vibes. Because I started to
read up on limes and they're a really beautiful cleansing agent,
so they read negative fear based energies, any spirits that
don't belong in your space. Many cultures have used this
for years, but no one's just actively talking about it.
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So I started to share it because I felt great
after I put the limes in, I slept like a baby.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
I'm like, this is a thing.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And then it went viral, but everyone started asking me
about it.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Moms are like, can I do it with my kids?
Can I just put it in their.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Room to make them like sleep really well and rid
the energy. I'm like, you may as well give it
a shot, and they did.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
All over the world.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
All my real went crazy, and all these mums a
messaging me going, oh my god, yess, my kids are
sleeping like twelve hours and they've never slept through the
night in their lives, and they're saying that there's no
more monsters in their room. And there's no weird lady
standing by the door anymore. Like it's just change the
world crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Everyone's like, okay, we're all cutting up blines tonight and
putting them out in our rooms.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yes, it is the thing, and I find too when
you send an intention for it, everything's so much more powerful.
So if you believe and you put them there with
the intention of ridding any negative energies, any spirits that
don't belong there, anyone playing funny buggers at night, it
will clear it.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It will be amazing.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I was wondering. I'm like, isn't it Is it an
intention thing? Like could you do it to anything? Or
do you think it's almost just like the lime as well?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Oh, it's definitely the lime, like because sometimes you know,
parents are putting it in the kids rooms and they're
not telling the kids that they're putting it in there
or why they are, and it's still having the effect.
So I don't think think it's a placebo. I just
feel like there's when you have more intention around things,
it tends to be more powerful, So I think it
has a better effect. It's kind of like with anything
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like when you sage, if you just walk around saging like,
that's cool, it'll probably do half the job. But if
you deal with the intention of getting rid of things
and like clearing the space and you're walking around thinking
about that, I just feel like there's more of an effect.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Yes and no. I wonder whether it's got something to
do almost like with the consent as well, because you know,
like obviously spirits or whatever, they there's if you say,
like make sure, if you're like absolutely you were not
allowed in this space, I like, you know you've consent,
you haven't consented to them being new around you, whatever else,
then they know they have to like they can't. So
(19:50):
I wonder whether it's almost like they like they're like
the line that means absolutely fucking not. That's like the
human safe word.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Well it's it's obviously becoming that they're recognizing it, going
oh okay, this is a hell no situation.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know. That's what I'm wondering. I'm like, they're like
sitting out of the reels, are going crazy. They're like, well, guys,
the last group, Yeah, I'm absolutely trying. I'm doing that today.
Anyone listening, we're all trying limes. So putting limes in
our room. We'll see what happens, especially with kids, because
like obviously I get a lot of I've got three kids,
and I get a lot of people like contacting me
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who have children who see things and experience things and everything,
And it's always really interesting trying to like balance protecting
them but also like them protecting themselves, but also like
not making it like a scary thing or like you know,
trying to create that connection between them and spirit and everything.
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Like one of my sons, he's a crazy medium. Like
the shit he sees is insane and it's so normal
for me, but he was really scared for a really
long time, even though it was the most normal thing
in our house to like talk about, you know, spirits
and all sorts of things. And it took him a
long time to not be afraid of them. But I
would always say to I would always be like, just
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don't let him see you, Like, hang the fucker. I
know you like like him. I know you, I know
you like him, but just like just honestly, just don't
let him see you until he's like ready, and he
doesn't like he sees them, He's like, oh, I'm playing
with my friends tonight, he's like, got my ghost friends.
I'm like, oh my god, like I want to hang
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out too.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
So good. Oh well, all right, let's talk about.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
The mediumship thing again, because like I actually realize I
don't think i've I mean, I've had a lot of
sort of mediums and stuff on the podcast, but it's
normally someone who does something and is it's not someone
who's like what I do is do one on one
readings every single day. What do you think as a
medium who speaks to the dead all the fucking time,
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what do you think people's loved ones want us to
know more than anything or what seems to just be
like I don't know, like a general message or something
that you know, you wish people knew.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
I feel like a lot.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Of the messages I get from spirit are around like closure.
It's like closure, like it was okay that you didn't
make it to say goodbye, or it was supposed to
be this way, or you know, don't feel guilty that
we didn't find out sooner what was going on with me?
Like it was all supposed to unfold the way that
it was. There wasn't anything else that you could have done.
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A lot of what people bring to readings is guilt
and burdens and not knowing. And I feel like if
you're carrying that around, I can tell you right now
that they don't want you to feel that way. You're
not supposed to be carrying that at all. They want
you to know there at peace and everything unfortunately was
supposed to be the way that it was.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
You couldn't have changed that if.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
You got there earlier that day, or you know, you
hadn't have made that call.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
And it's like, we can't do that to ourselves, so
you have to stop torturing yourself.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
That's so interesting. I did a workshop the other day
that was literally like helping people connect to loved ones
and like sort of teaching them how they can connect
to their loved ones. And the message that spirit gave
me to share with everyone was like, please don't feel guilt.
Please don't feel guilty, and exactly what you said, there
wasn't anything else you could have done. There wasn't anything
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you've done wrong. Like the last thing we ever wanted
to feel is guilt because it doesn't help you. It
makes no difference to us, Like we can just see
that you're hurting, and we just wish that like, we
just wish that we could take that hurt away from you.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I'm actually glad that we've both had that first thing
come to mind, because it is really important that you
know that they've let go of all of that. And
I think too, some of the conversations that we have
here we hang on to that and we're like, oh,
this is the last thing I said to them. I
can't believe that. You know, I didn't say this or
I didn't say that. I always say a lot and
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I love this. I'm not sure which spirit said it
this way, but now I say it like this quite often.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's all just human stuff. Yeah, They're like.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
That's all conversations and things that happened, and they don't
worry about those things.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
That's just stuff that we have when we're here.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
But souls and our connections to each other, that's what matters,
and that's what lives on. The love within the connection
that we share doesn't matter about the little the human stuff,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Yes, and their memories, Like that's something that I feel
like I'm just realizing, well not even realizing, but learning
more and more from spirits, is the significance of memories.
And how that's essentially why they even come down, because
they're coming they're basically just collect they're like learning, they're
like collecting all of these memories, and then they take
those memories on with them and then they like you know,
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share their memories with others, and so they're like constantly
just learning and evolving and from these memories. So like,
as you said, you know, you can sit there and
go like, you know, I didn't get to have that
last conversation, But all they're thinking about is all of
those Like they're bringing all of those memories that you've
had together with them.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yes, and that's what matters. It's the connection you've shared.
It's you know, the love you've had for each other.
That's what lives on, not those last little moments that
maybe weren't exactly the way you would have hoped that
they would have been. It doesn't sum up your whole connection.
So we have to look at the whole rather than
looking at all the little pieces.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yes, what kind of spirits do you communicate with? Like
are they just fast blood ones? Angels, your smiriteam galactics?
Like what have you seen?
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
So for me, it's mostly loved ones. Yeah, I can
connect with animals too. That's amazing. I love that, yeah,
pretty much. But I have had animals that have come
through from the start because someone said, I really want
to connect dog, and it's ended up being the dog
giving the whole messages like all of them for the
rest of the reading.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
So it's super cool to feel like.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Your animals are over there watching you, like your human
loved ones. Good, Yeah, sort of, it's really cool, but yeah,
mostly loved ones animals. I can also connect with people
who are still living, who are living with dementia or
a nonverbal So that's a really powerful thing that I've
come across and is really healing for a lot of
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people who are watching somebody in that state and aren't
sure if they're aware of what's going on.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
That's really interesting What comes through often in those sorts
of situations with someone who's like nonverbal or has.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Dementia, it's usually around them wanting to give I guess
reassurance to that person that they know what they're doing,
they know what's going on, they know that they're showing
up for them. Also, I've actually had somebody come through
to let the person know that's like looking after them
the things that maybe they need more of, or the
things that might be making them sick, or like I've
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had things like oh, I don't stop feeding me that.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
That apple stuff, and I was like, what are you
feeding them? And they're like, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I was actually thinking that I'm going to change up
what I'm giving them because we've been giving them.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Apple for a while.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
And I was like, I feel like they need pair now,
well they need something else, and they're like I was
just thinking that, but I wasn't sure, and I was like, well,
I don't like that, so go to something new. So
sometimes it's just like little pieces of information to just
validate that they know. So if you've got someone who's
living with this, know that their mind is wandering to
the spirit world and when they don't feel like they're
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present with you, it's because they're actually present with the
other side and they're not suffering in their minds. They
are traveling to the spirit world and back and they're
finding that peace and closure in those moments.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
That is so beautiful. I've connected with a few like
dementia patients, but never lack anyone non verbal, and it's
interesting they say sort of similar things like I need
more of this less that well, like you know, and
just and same thing. It's like they're going back and
forth as well, like they're there and then they're not.
How about like spirit babies. Do you connect your spirit babies?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yes? I love spirit babies. They're my favorite. Energy is so.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Beautiful and so funny, like they're always just full of
life and excited and no worries and no fuss and
they're just coming in on their own time.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, and they like they know what they want to,
like they're often like a little bit sassy like sometimes
like it's like their personalities are very much their personalities.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yeah, they're already intact.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And I love being able to tell like the expected mother,
I'm like, oh, I'm connecting with your baby.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
And she's like this and she's like, oh shit, like
what am I in store for?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And I'm like you'll see. And then they come out
and they're like.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Oh my god, she's exactly the way that you said
she was going to be.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
So it's so it's really cool to be able to
give that little gift to the mum to be as well.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's really cool.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yes, And I love like how normalized it almost is
now for people. You know, people are pregnant, they're like
connecting to their spirit baby, or they're not even they're
like I like so many people I know who I
just never would have imagined would be you know, remotely
wo win the slightest they're like, oh, you know, I
can feel a spirit baby around and I've been like,
(29:27):
my spirit baby's connecting to me, or when they are pregnant.
And I think because like now that we're sort of
so open to so much more, like it's just such
a different world now, and it's so exciting for people
like you and I like you and I where it's
almost like we can just be free and brs and
be weird.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Yeah, and like it's normalized totally.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yes, it's getting them thinks it's all right, I love it.
But like, you know, people are really starting to connect
like with these little beings and starting to connect with
like and even to be to see children as souls
as well, I think is so powerful and is changing
(30:10):
a lot of how we parent because it's not like
they've come on down and you know, our job as
parents is to tell them what to do and teach
them att life and all of that kind of thing
and you're seen and not heard, and or the other
way around heard and also nope, that's seen, not her.
You're right. But now like these these little spirits are
coming down and we understand that there's like this dance
(30:33):
between parent and child where like we're here to help
them be human because we've been doing it for longer,
but they're here to teach us so much shit, Like
they're here to just evolve us in a really like
spectacular way.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I found the same thing a lot of mums. I'm like, Wow,
your daughter's here to heal you. I'm like, it's like
you see yourself in her, or like she'll trigger things
in you, but it's actually to help you recognize parts
of yourself that still need healing, and you'll heal yourself
through parenting your child.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yes, children do that to us.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They're like little mirrors, yes, for sure, mirrors.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
How some other ways that you find that the loved
ones really want to connect with like people on.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Earth through like signs, signs and symbols, and that's how
you can connect with your own loved ones. And I
like to say, don't wait for a sign, ask yeah them,
be like hey, I haven't heard from you guys in
a while, like where are you? Like, if you want
to connect with your nana, be like all right, Nana,
Like you show me a sign, ask for a specific
one and just see what happens.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Yes, And I always say to people, if you think it,
if you think it is, it is, like and even
the fact that if you see someone and you think
of them, it's them, you know, like I'll have to
I often find like when I'm connecting to loved ones,
like really interestingly, they they keep showing me even like
they'll show up in like books or something like they'll
(32:00):
be reading a passage for example, and it's just like
one paragraph and as they're reading that, they're like thinking
about their mum or whatever it is, and it's like
those words are like from her to you.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Oh I love that. But it's so powerful.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
But it's like in ways, and it's also like funny
as well, like spiritual. So they love to make you,
especially in a time where you're grieving. They love to
bring a lightness.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
Yes, I agree, and that's why I say with my
readings too, it's like, yes, we will go deep and
we need to go wherever we need to go.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
But a lot of it's light. It's fun.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
It's like they're reminding you of some of the weird
things they've done, all the things you've done together, or
they come through with their.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Sas and we just laugh at like their personality.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Like I just think it's nice sometimes to have the
lightness with the darker energy and that like grief in
the trenches of life loss, Like, we can't stay in that.
That's not healthy for us to be living in that
grief energy. We have to be able to find a
way to see the lightness or to.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
Jump in and out of that.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
So I think that spirit in readings really do that beautifully.
They jump in and out of the lightness to the grief,
and they sort of just make you feel better. I
always find that we always walk away from readings feeling
so much lighter, both of us really.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
And I feel like they even sort of were saying
to me the other day, like about the lightness and
the darkness, especially like when we're feeling grief, because often
when people are grieving, they feel really guilty to feel
anything else the second they feel anything other than grief
and sadness, Like if they they feel this like this guilt,
Like I shouldn't be feeling this whereas like spirit is like,
(33:44):
but that's impossible, Like you should be like smiling as
much as you're grieving, Like there's so much beauty in
the world, Like it could be the most horrible day
in the whole wide world, and yet there's still like
a sunset or a sunrise, and they're still laughter. There's
still funny things, and you shouldn't be denying yourself of that.
Like it's as much to feel as it is to
(34:05):
feel the grief.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I agree. You need to try to ride the wave.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
That's I like to call it, you know, if you're
feeling a certain way, like I've been through the same things.
I've lost a lot of people in my life. I've
had a lot of really shitty things happen with.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Me, and I just surrender to it all. Now I'm
kind of like, you know what.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
At one point I said to my wife, I was
just crying one night, just in the kitchen. I wasn't
hysterically crying, just tears. We're just rolling down my face
and she's like, are you okay, And I'm like, don't worry,
just let them go.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
I just kept going on with my business. I'm just
crying around the house and I didn't even know why,
but I was like, obviously I need a release.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I'm just like just restingtically moving through my body.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, but you just let yourself if you feel it,
you know, just let it go, like allow it to
come out, because you'll find that one day you'll just
stop crying and it'll be done, you know, and you
might randomly feel that way, but it won't be that
consistent energy. I feel like the more we try to
stop things, or we try to control how we're feeling,
(35:09):
or oh I should be over it by now, or
I can't still be crying or whatever, it's like who says,
like but why not, Like don't hold back, Like that's
you processing.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
We need to process to move forward and to heal.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yes. Actually, even something came up the other day when
I was like connecting to spirit and they were talking about,
you know, grief and connecting to loved ones, and they
were saying, often they'll like even make themselves known and
like you'll feel them so that you can actually feel
and process that grief because you know, often sometimes at
the time when it's all happening and it is like
(35:43):
this constant thing and often we'll keep it in our
bodies and it will stay stagnant. So they'll sort of
like you'll remember them, or like you'll have a moment
where you just will miss them so much and you'll
have that real physical reaction where you'll like cry and
you'll feel it all. And they're like, we're actually helping
you move it, we're helping you process it.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, so don't deny it, just allow it to unfold.
And like the thing is, I.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Was in the kitchen, I was at home, there was
no one around, and they chose that moment.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I'm like cool.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
I'm like, I'm glad you've chosen this moment. So sometimes
they do it for you. They're like, all right, she's
got a night where she's got no one around. Just
let it all happen, let it all out, and then
I can wake up the next day. And I always
like to think too that tomorrow's another day. Tomorrow will
be better. Tomorrow you'll wake up and it might hurt
just a little bit less, or you might have a
confident day, or just allow yourself to Yeah, as I said,
(36:38):
ride the way, it's important.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Can you think of any readings that have felt or
like moments in readings that have felt extremely significant, where
it's like it was such a like learning moment, or
in a harm moment, or like that was fucking crazy moment.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
There's so many of them, hope, and all the time,
which is so great and I love it too. And
I think the most amazing readings are where you needed
the to hear that stuff too. It's like sometimes I
sit there and I'm like, wow, I'm like that was
really powerful.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
And you know what, I find really sweet too.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Sometimes if I've had a really like crappy moment before reading,
or I felt a bit emotional myself, or maybe something's
just gone wrong and I can't quite get it out
of my head, but I know I need to because
I have to read for someone right now. Sometimes I'll
sit there and I'll start to channel for them, and
even before I know who the person is, that step forward.
Sometimes other people's loved ones give me comfort.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's really quite sweet. So one time I heard this
lady and she was like, she's like, it's all right, love.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
She's like, You've got this, don't worry, everything will be better.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
You just relax and breathe right now and we'll get
through this. One together, and I.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
Was like, oh my god, I'm like, this is somebody's
love one.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
You don't know me from a bar of.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Soap, but you are making sure I'm okay before we
start the reading.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I know they're the most amazing ones, but I'm like,
you are making me feel like you're my nana right now,
or you're someone who's like coming in to give me
what I need so that I can be the.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Best version of myself for the person that I'm reading for.
Who you love?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
I love that so much. So how do you like
set up your reading? Like as in like when you're
calling people in, is it just like whoever just pops
in like they're coming through for that person. Have you
ever been surprised by who's coming or who hasn't come in?
Speaker 3 (38:28):
Yeah. So usually when I start to read for somebody,
I'll ask them if there's anyone in particular they want
to connect with. Some people are like, yep, I want
to connect with a woman or a man or whatever.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
So I kind of go in the direction they're hoping for.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
But sometimes people just leave it open, so we just
go with whoever comes forward.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
A lot of the time when we go with the flow.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
There are times where people step forward and they're like,
oh my god, like I haven't thought about that person
in years, or I haven't seen them for so long,
or I never met them, And I'm like, well, they're
coming through so strongly because they want you to know
that they've been watching in your whole life, and regardless
of if you've had a physical connection here in the
physical world, it doesn't take away the sole connection that
(39:08):
you still have with them and that they know of
you and there've been a guide to you. So I
kind of like those moments where we get a little
bit shocked by who's here.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Yes, we should probably start to wrap it up, But
is there anything else? You feel like a loved ones
well loved ones would love everyone to know that.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
You're never going to disappoint them. Oh, it's a massive
message I always get. There is not one single day
that goes by that you disappoint anyone on the other side.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So you just do you.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yes, I love that. That's a perfect way to end. Yes,
I mean tell us, how how do people book in
a reading with you? How do they find about about
the limes? I mean, I mean it's pretty like straightforward.
You cut a line up and you put it in
a room. Information.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yes, so you can follow me on Instagram or TikTok
at Jessica Lin Mediumship or my website is Jessica Lynn
Mediumship dot com or as you said at the start,
I have my own podcast called Talk Spirit to Me
on Apple or Spotify, so and check us out.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Amazing And I have all of those in the show
notes as well.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Thank you so much, jess thank you, thank you,
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