June 28, 2025 • 22 mins
It's been quite the week for Carina and Jacob, featuring a pregnancy scare, medical drama, surprising first date and a potential new romance. Plus, what is and acceptable to ask on a first date? Because one question caught Jacob off-guard...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to This is Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome guys. We had a We've had quite a big
week this week, and unfortunately I fractured my hand. Yeah,
so we're just going to hide it here. I don't
know if it's fractured yet, but I've got a I
did an x ray yesterday. You came with me and
(00:24):
we're going to see if the results come back. And
hopefully it's just a sprain. But if it's fractured, I'm
going to have to look at a new career because
I can't work. How am I supposed to do hair
with one hand?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What am I going to do without you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm so reliant on you and the magic you create.
So is this like another path for you? Or should
we just try and know? Book an occupational like an
book a hand therapist to give you some exercises.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So I don't know what I'm going.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
To do fronto. You know a little synopsis of our
week right since I last saw you. We went on
a little farms day getaway too. Was out of Sydney.
Where did we go? Bundanoon? Yeah, we stayed at Osborne House,
which is so lovely. I was calling it a shack
or a bunk.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, it was a farmhouse. It was a farm farmhouse.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm always I always say the wrong word.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You said it was a lodge, farmhouse and large.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just look at it, you know. The serenity is real.
The bunny rabbits. Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And I woke up and I saw kangaroos and little
blue and blue and redbirds. And I'm like, the blue
and red birds must have a meaning. Like I looked
up on chat epytm, like does blue and red birds
have a spiritual meaning? What does it mean for me?
Does it mean love is going to come my way?
Like what's happening? You know?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So we thought we would get some zen on our
beautiful We had such a beautiful our time away two
hours out of the city. Get like we we you know,
got out of the big smoke and we did our
simple life. Two point zero two girls.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Literally were in the forest. Yeah, in a forest, in
a forest we did in the cut true side. It
was the forest. I mean there was trees and stuff,
but we we had we had a really beautiful time.
We did a spa, we did.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The ice ball, I did New Witness and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I did not go into ice bath I'm too chicken
for that. But yeah, it was an amazing, beautiful time
and and do you want to share the news about
your pregnancy?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
What you know? It was so crazy, everything a lines
in perfect duration of life. I'm a big believer in that,
and everything that we've been endeavoring and going on this
crazy roller coaster of a whirlwind ride together has led
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us to today.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
What's her name?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's a girl girl? I thought, I don't know. I
didn't think I was pregnant. However, in saying that, I
have been diagnosed with IBS, kidding, I thought it was IDs.
So a few weeks ago, I was flying back home
just after my birthday, right where my birthday, I was
flying back home to Perth for the week, and I
was inexcruciating pain and okay, it's going to get a.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Bit you know what I feel like, you need to
say it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, Well, I was super bloated, very gassy, a very
uncomfortable gut like it was feeling raw and it was
like gurning at me and rumbling, and I was like, well,
I'm not hungry, it's not my period. I got my
period for like maybe two days, which was so random.
I had real bad diarrhea, and I was like, what
is going on? So I had to go to the
(03:31):
doctor in Perth, did a bunch of blood tests and
then I did a stool test as well, and the
doctor was like, you're either pregnant. I was like, well,
that's definitely not the case. Very celibate, and so because
I had like a metallic taste in my mouth as well,
I would wake up and I'm like, what it's going on.
I'm bloated. But I was so uncomfortable and in it,
(03:52):
I was very, very very uncomfortable, and normally I just
pushed through pain, but this was different. So she yeah,
checked me for like my iron, all my different blood.
She was like, maybe I have a parasite or a bug.
Have you been overseas anywhere recent? I was like no,
I haven't. Anyway, I came back to Sydney. I did
(04:13):
my telehealth over the phone call and she gave me
the results and she goes, oh, she was like, everything's
looking really good from your blood test results, in saying
that you know, maybe you have IBS and I was like,
oh no. I was like I'm a what. I love you.
I just want to eat everything.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That means you know, alcohol, sugar, and gluten my feet
three favorite things I could never I was. I was
so upset and I was like, okay, I have to
get probiotics. I went to the health store and I
bought sea moss, I bought butcher. I was like, I
need to put myself in for a colony. I was
really you know, getting above my head. Anyway, just recently
on Monday, while just before we were going down to
(04:56):
our farm's s day, I get a call from my
doctor and she you have a parasite growing because test
grew yeah, over time. So at the beginning when she
got the results from my stool test, there was nothing.
Over a week it had formed. This parasite is called
guardius parasite.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That I photos of her and it literally looks like
a cockroach with jellyfish and tentacles. Like it's gross. You've
got You've got a little baby in you, you know,
can we name her?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
No? It was so scared and then she said to me.
I was like, where did I get this parasite from?
And she was like, it could be from cos sushi.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You saught it was from sushi.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah. Food. We did go and have sushi trainers like
that's it. It was the sushi ashy raw fish. Anyway,
he's me freaking out. But she did give prescribe me
with antibiotics, and now I'm on antibiotics for the next.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I just want to name her. I'll name her Deandra.
I feel like that's a cute parasite.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know. What's also really random that where the stars aligned,
we rock up to the Osborne house. We're checking into
our lodge whatever we call it. What are we calling it?
Was a lodge to our lodge? It And what's on
the TV screen?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm jellyfish jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And they looked exactly anyway, So you have almost a
broken wrist. We're still trying to figure out what's going on.
I have a parasite inside me, but it's good to
know that we are getting it all fixed. So you're
waiting for your X ray results and the antibiotics are
killing this parasite in Sammy, and then I'm going to
book for a colonic or something.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I can't do one of those, but you can do
that alone, doll.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
While we were on our farm's day, Jacob, we were
doing a bit of a brainstorm and I was like, okay,
so I'm very single. I'm really not in the dating
game at the moment, and you are very single, but
you're open to dating and you really want to go
on a date. So you've been saying this for quite
some time, and I was like, you know what, I'm
(07:01):
going to give you an exercise. Like we're in school
and you're my student, and you have a task. I
gave you a task.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Which and I completed.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You have completed, and the task was to go on
a date. Yeah, and you went on a date.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I went on a date with mister muscles.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We're callings.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's his name.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We will disclose his name, but right now it's mister muscles.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's mister muscles.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So tell me how your date went, Jacob.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know what I am.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I am living through you and your love life right now.
I mean, are we getting a bit of ahead of
ourselves because you've only gone on one date.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I've gone on one date. But it was a good day.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
How did it all start? How did mister muscles come
into your life?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, so mister muscles came into my life. So through
a mutual friend, I've been going to this guy's birthday
for a few years now, so we've we've actually seen
each other on multiple occasions, but we've never actually spoken. Yeah,
and then this was a few weeks ago. So I
went on to Instagram and anyway, I think I'm pretty
(08:04):
sure I followed first. I'm going to say I followed first.
I followed first, and then he followed me back. And
then anyway, I think I liked one of his photos,
and then that was it. He didn't like any of
my photos. Anyway, A few days later, I posted an
Instagram story and he slid into my DMS.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well we've got receipts.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, we've got receipts. But I I it was the
first episode of our podcast that launched, and we were
in the bathroom. That's the one that he responded to.
And then anyway, then later that week, he invited me
to his spin class, and me and you, yeah, we're
supposed to go to the spin class. Yeah, he works
out one playground and we were like, okay, well let's
(08:44):
go to the spin class. Anyway, then he was like,
let's go to dinner before the spin class.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And we find ourselves at Bondai Junction, Westfield going to
all the I.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But everything was too tired on my stomach. So I
was like, anyway, whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, you're ready. You're getting prepared for this spin class.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. I was getting prepared for the spin class. Anyway,
the spin class never never ended up happening. I had
work on that Friday. I'm pretty sure it's Friday yet.
So we we didn't end up meeting then. But anyway,
while we're on our farm vacate, we we were messaging,
and so we ended up setting a date for last night.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I said, bite the bullet, just organize it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yea go, Yeah, because you were really because I haven't.
I was so nervous. But I haven't dated for like
a good year and a half, I reckon, so it's
been a while. I I have been scarred from dating prior.
I have had a lot of situationships, so this was
definitely out of my comfort zone. I was. I think
I was getting a bit too comfortable, just you know,
(09:47):
being by myself and not really kind of allowing anyone
to kind of come into my life.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, and we low key in a relationship. You're like,
whatever before have deep pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Wherever I end up in a relationship with with the
yours too. Yeah, we come as a package for one
but it was a really nice night. It was actually,
I don't know if this is sad to say this,
but it's the first time I've ever been picked up
on a date. So anyway, I got picked up from
your house and the.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
First time you've ever been picked up and dropped off
for a date.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, isn't that sad?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's not sad. No, you just you got lower expectations though.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I mean the that I've dated have no change.
I was already like, okay tick. I was like green
tick for you, green, green tick for mister muscles.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Do we know? Do we get a name? Now that
you're going into the story, We're going to call him
mister muscles.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Still Muscles drove.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Back down, We drove back to bond Ive from Osbon House.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We got ready, you got ready.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You was so nervous, the energy. I've never seen you
this nervous before, and it was making me really anxious.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You were shaking and I was like, stop shaking because
I'm about to pass out. And he's like, I'm three
minutes away and I'm like fuck, I'm like, do I
need a shop before I go out on this date?
Like I'm nervous. But anyway, I went down and when
I got picked up, we went to Cafe Roma in
Pot's Point. It was really nice. Yeah, like he's a
really cool guy. He's a pet, he does spin classes,
(11:28):
he's a boxer. So like, I mean, with my hand
right now, I look like I've been boxing. I haven't.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Did he wrap your hand for you?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I wish, Oh my god, maybe I should ask him
to wrap my hand. But yeah, it was It was
a really nice night. It was the first time where
I've gone on a date that, you know, I haven't
been loved bombed. And that was weird because usually when
I speak to people, it's the total love bomb conversation,
like let's get married, let's have kids. You know, I
(11:55):
want a relationship, Let's get married in Italy. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And they don't even know your parents' name.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, I mean, they don't even know what I do
for work at that problem, you know. And I was like, Okay,
this is crazy because I'm getting to know someone properly,
like the proper way of just sitting down with someone,
getting to know them who they are. I mean, you
don't know someone over one date, of course, but like
it was just really nice to sit down with someone
and share our stories about our past relationships, share what
(12:25):
we expect in each other, share what you know, what
you want in life, share who you are?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know, and yeah, all the right signs were there. Yeah, yeah,
and you feel comfortable, you know. Do you think he
was asking all the right questions?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
There was one question that I did feel very challenged by,
and yeah, it was he asked me, have I ever
done anything wrong in a relationship? And I was like
really thinking, I'm like, have I done something wrong? I've
never cheated, crossed my heart, I've never cheated. I've never
(13:03):
been a bad person. I've never done anything malicious to
hurt anyone ever, even when in my previous situationship when
you know, I found out that this person that I
was dating had a double life, well yeah, had had
a relationship for three years and I was kind of
in the midst of it all. I didn't know, you know,
I still held that with I ended it with kindness,
(13:28):
and I wasn't a mean person. Looking back, I'm like, fuck, Jacob,
you could have really hit the fan, But I really
I moved through relationships with love and with care, and
I never want to hurt someone, you know, I don't
my parents have never taught me how to do that,
so I, you know, I just yeah, I moved with love,
and that's that's what I was trying to say to him.
I'm like, I've never done anything bad, and he's like, well,
(13:51):
I can tell you the stuff that I've done bad,
which I'm not going to get into.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He took himself.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, he was very accountable, and I admire that. I
admire that he was accountable for his actions. Yeah, up
front and honest, and you know, that's the only thing
that you can be. On my end, though, I did
feel like I'm like, did I have I ever done
something wrong? And that played on my mind, like when
I got home, when I got home to your house,
like I was like, have I done anything wrong in
(14:17):
a relationship? I was kind of like.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I was giving you that reassurance, like you didn't
really break everything down to me because I was like,
let's save it for the podcast. Yeah, but from the
quick synopsis you gave me, I feel like you and
I are very similar and how we were raised and
it really reflects on how we, you know, treat our relationships.
And I was saying, you know, you felt challenged by
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first of all him opening up and getting really deep
with you, which I don't think you've had in your
previous relationship anyone. From what you've told me, we go deep,
we get deep, but not from a.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Relationship relationship point of view.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So that was really interesting to have that conversation with you.
And you know, obviously dissecting everything when you're walking away
after date is super crucial, and it's good to break
everything down, especially if you want to invest in this person,
because you know, within the first five minutes of getting
(15:22):
to know someone whether you see them as a friend
or maybe something more.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, I think that's I think that's a pretty valid point.
Like you do know within the first few minutes of
meeting someone, whether you have that connection, you know that
you want to see them again. I don't believe in
you have to see someone for like five months before
you make things official. No, No, you know, I think
you pretty much know straight away whether you guys are compatible,
whether you guys connect, whether you you know, and then
(15:48):
all of you know. Once you have your your groundwork,
then that's that's something you build on then and then
you build a relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, you know, I find it quite admirable hearing that
he did ask those types of questions.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I've never been asked that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't think I've been asked.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I've always been in situation on.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
My past relationship and asked myself what did I do
and how can I work on these things for my
next relationship and hold my personal experience and take accountability. So,
you know, when you just keep playing the blame game
to your partner or continues to call them out or
bitch about them in an open forum or to your friends,
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and I purely don't think that's the greatest way to go.
It doesn't build a healthy relationship anything. It brings toxicity
into it. But it's nice that he was communicating with
you about what he had done in the past that
maybe didn't align.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
We have all been in situations where you know, like,
of course, you know, there's been shit situations in everyone's lives,
you know, But I do love that he was very
He owned up to his shit and it wasn't even
the biggest deal, but he still said that that's what
I did wrong. And I really like that. Yeah, because
(17:04):
someone that can actually sit there and own what they've
done wrong and speak about it like that's growth.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know, people do struggle to take account of ability
on their behavior patterns in relationships, and people do need
to own their ship and be up front. That's why
he was asking that type of question to see if
you have self awareness.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And that's I was like, oh my god, do I
not have self awareness?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
No, I was like, do I not have self awareness?
Because he told me this, he was like, he was like, welcome,
Welcome to your counseling session.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Look, you've got a free therapy session. I don't think
you have self awareness. I think you just haven't. I've
just never dated the right person you have.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And I don't think i've dated enough either either, Like
I've dated a few people, but not a whole shitload.
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think that you go for men that are very
complex and you do a form of t a bonding
in situationships and relationships. Yes, because the way that you
were raised, you were fueled with so much love in
a household where you saw what it was like to
have a moving relationship and you know, the whole family
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or deal. But for some reason, because we were raised
that way and surrounded by we kind of want to
rebel in a sense and do the opposite or try
and find people that are so messed up or traumatize
in their own way because it's maybe a challenge for us,
or we want to fix them and heal them and
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change them and make them be a better person because
it's like a damage control element of relation.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, but I do now see the difference between someone
that is like that and then yeah, a normal person
that actually wants to find them.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, so we all want a visual appearance
of mister muscles because you know we can't see him
right now, but just give us the rundown of his
his physical features, what he looks like, so we can
visualize him because we don't have a name. We've just
got mister muscles. Muscles. So about nationality, what's the deal?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So half Spanish, half Italian and then I think it
was like maybe ten centimeters taller than me. We might
need a rule the next time. Ten centimeters taller. Mister
muscles speaks for itself and just he's got a personality,
which I like, I'm used to dogging people with no personalities.
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I'm always like the loud one or the one that
needs to push people around. And I said, I even
said on TikTok the other day, I'm like, I want
someone to aim and me in the middle, but also
like push me around, nudge me a little bit, like
give me a bit of something to kind of like
go off.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You know, I think we all want No, did you kiss?
And is there a second date?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We didn't kiss.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I just feel like it was nice for once that
someone hasn't just like gotten into my pants or gone
in straight away. I feel like that's too soon, especially
when dating in a you know, in this world. You know,
I appreciate that. I'm like, Okay, well, this person's not
just trying to like get into my pants, you know,
they're actually like building a base first. They want to,
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you know, see if we're compatible, build a friendship.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So we didn't kiss, and respects their massive green tick.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh, he messaged me this morning. He sent me a
little good morning. He went for his run at five am.
So I think there is a second date next week.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I'm living vigorously through you.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm dead. Well, yeah, it's been fun and second date
is next week on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Do you want to plan this one me? Can you
plan it?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Plan your date?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, like I'm supposed to plan like the new he
was supposed to. He planned the first one. Yeah, oh
my god, did I say that? He also paid for
the bill, which was so nice. It was the first
time someone's ever paid for a bill.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I cry, It's so nice. I know we have really
low expectations, but I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You can tell I've had the bare fu minimum minimum.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
You have, Babe, I haven't, but you have. But that's
not honestly, that's that's so lovely of him. You know
what I'm going to plan your next day. You're going
to plan it with mister Muscles. Mister muscle Date number two?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Can we do like nothing like to? I don't do
rock climbing, and I don't do heights like nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You don't do heights and you don't do rock climb
You love to be a foodie?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm happy. Can you play me a nice boogie
dinner bogie? Did that?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I feel like we do that every week? I mean,
maybe not every week, every second week, but we do
that a lot. I think I need it.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I don't know if I trusted I'm one hundred.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
This next date Muscles. Stay tuned everyone, because the next
episode we're going to dissect Jacob and mister Muscle second date.
We'll see there, we will see then
Speaker 2 (22:07):
We'll see then, guys,
Welcome back to This is Chaos.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome guys. We had a We've had quite a big
week this week, and unfortunately I fractured my hand. Yeah,
so we're just going to hide it here. I don't
know if it's fractured yet, but I've got a I
did an x ray yesterday. You came with me and
(00:24):
we're going to see if the results come back. And
hopefully it's just a sprain. But if it's fractured, I'm
going to have to look at a new career because
I can't work. How am I supposed to do hair
with one hand?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
What am I going to do without you?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm so reliant on you and the magic you create.
So is this like another path for you? Or should
we just try and know? Book an occupational like an
book a hand therapist to give you some exercises.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So I don't know what I'm going.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
To do fronto. You know a little synopsis of our
week right since I last saw you. We went on
a little farms day getaway too. Was out of Sydney.
Where did we go? Bundanoon? Yeah, we stayed at Osborne House,
which is so lovely. I was calling it a shack
or a bunk.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, it was a farmhouse. It was a farm farmhouse.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes, yes, yes, I'm always I always say the wrong word.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
You said it was a lodge, farmhouse and large.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just look at it, you know. The serenity is real.
The bunny rabbits. Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
And I woke up and I saw kangaroos and little
blue and blue and redbirds. And I'm like, the blue
and red birds must have a meaning. Like I looked
up on chat epytm, like does blue and red birds
have a spiritual meaning? What does it mean for me?
Does it mean love is going to come my way?
Like what's happening? You know?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So we thought we would get some zen on our
beautiful We had such a beautiful our time away two
hours out of the city. Get like we we you know,
got out of the big smoke and we did our
simple life. Two point zero two girls.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Literally were in the forest. Yeah, in a forest, in
a forest we did in the cut true side. It
was the forest. I mean there was trees and stuff,
but we we had we had a really beautiful time.
We did a spa, we did.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
The ice ball, I did New Witness and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I did not go into ice bath I'm too chicken
for that. But yeah, it was an amazing, beautiful time
and and do you want to share the news about
your pregnancy?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
What you know? It was so crazy, everything a lines
in perfect duration of life. I'm a big believer in that,
and everything that we've been endeavoring and going on this
crazy roller coaster of a whirlwind ride together has led
(02:40):
us to today.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
What's her name?
Speaker 1 (02:45):
It's a girl girl? I thought, I don't know. I
didn't think I was pregnant. However, in saying that, I
have been diagnosed with IBS, kidding, I thought it was IDs.
So a few weeks ago, I was flying back home
just after my birthday, right where my birthday, I was
flying back home to Perth for the week, and I
was inexcruciating pain and okay, it's going to get a.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Bit you know what I feel like, you need to
say it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yeah, Well, I was super bloated, very gassy, a very
uncomfortable gut like it was feeling raw and it was
like gurning at me and rumbling, and I was like, well,
I'm not hungry, it's not my period. I got my
period for like maybe two days, which was so random.
I had real bad diarrhea, and I was like, what
is going on? So I had to go to the
(03:31):
doctor in Perth, did a bunch of blood tests and
then I did a stool test as well, and the
doctor was like, you're either pregnant. I was like, well,
that's definitely not the case. Very celibate, and so because
I had like a metallic taste in my mouth as well,
I would wake up and I'm like, what it's going on.
I'm bloated. But I was so uncomfortable and in it,
(03:52):
I was very, very very uncomfortable, and normally I just
pushed through pain, but this was different. So she yeah,
checked me for like my iron, all my different blood.
She was like, maybe I have a parasite or a bug.
Have you been overseas anywhere recent? I was like no,
I haven't. Anyway, I came back to Sydney. I did
(04:13):
my telehealth over the phone call and she gave me
the results and she goes, oh, she was like, everything's
looking really good from your blood test results, in saying
that you know, maybe you have IBS and I was like,
oh no. I was like I'm a what. I love you.
I just want to eat everything.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
That means you know, alcohol, sugar, and gluten my feet
three favorite things I could never I was. I was
so upset and I was like, okay, I have to
get probiotics. I went to the health store and I
bought sea moss, I bought butcher. I was like, I
need to put myself in for a colony. I was
really you know, getting above my head. Anyway, just recently
on Monday, while just before we were going down to
(04:56):
our farm's s day, I get a call from my
doctor and she you have a parasite growing because test
grew yeah, over time. So at the beginning when she
got the results from my stool test, there was nothing.
Over a week it had formed. This parasite is called
guardius parasite.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
That I photos of her and it literally looks like
a cockroach with jellyfish and tentacles. Like it's gross. You've
got You've got a little baby in you, you know,
can we name her?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
No? It was so scared and then she said to me.
I was like, where did I get this parasite from?
And she was like, it could be from cos sushi.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
You saught it was from sushi.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah. Food. We did go and have sushi trainers like
that's it. It was the sushi ashy raw fish. Anyway,
he's me freaking out. But she did give prescribe me
with antibiotics, and now I'm on antibiotics for the next.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I just want to name her. I'll name her Deandra.
I feel like that's a cute parasite.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know. What's also really random that where the stars aligned,
we rock up to the Osborne house. We're checking into
our lodge whatever we call it. What are we calling it?
Was a lodge to our lodge? It And what's on
the TV screen?
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I'm jellyfish jellyfish.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And they looked exactly anyway, So you have almost a
broken wrist. We're still trying to figure out what's going on.
I have a parasite inside me, but it's good to
know that we are getting it all fixed. So you're
waiting for your X ray results and the antibiotics are
killing this parasite in Sammy, and then I'm going to
book for a colonic or something.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I can't do one of those, but you can do
that alone, doll.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
While we were on our farm's day, Jacob, we were
doing a bit of a brainstorm and I was like, okay,
so I'm very single. I'm really not in the dating
game at the moment, and you are very single, but
you're open to dating and you really want to go
on a date. So you've been saying this for quite
some time, and I was like, you know what, I'm
(07:01):
going to give you an exercise. Like we're in school
and you're my student, and you have a task. I
gave you a task.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Which and I completed.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
You have completed, and the task was to go on
a date. Yeah, and you went on a date.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, I went on a date with mister muscles.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
We're callings.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
That's his name.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We will disclose his name, but right now it's mister muscles.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
It's mister muscles.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So tell me how your date went, Jacob.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know what I am.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I am living through you and your love life right now.
I mean, are we getting a bit of ahead of
ourselves because you've only gone on one date.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I've gone on one date. But it was a good day.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
How did it all start? How did mister muscles come
into your life?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay, so mister muscles came into my life. So through
a mutual friend, I've been going to this guy's birthday
for a few years now, so we've we've actually seen
each other on multiple occasions, but we've never actually spoken. Yeah,
and then this was a few weeks ago. So I
went on to Instagram and anyway, I think I'm pretty
(08:04):
sure I followed first. I'm going to say I followed first.
I followed first, and then he followed me back. And
then anyway, I think I liked one of his photos,
and then that was it. He didn't like any of
my photos. Anyway, A few days later, I posted an
Instagram story and he slid into my DMS.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well we've got receipts.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Yeah, we've got receipts. But I I it was the
first episode of our podcast that launched, and we were
in the bathroom. That's the one that he responded to.
And then anyway, then later that week, he invited me
to his spin class, and me and you, yeah, we're
supposed to go to the spin class. Yeah, he works
out one playground and we were like, okay, well let's
(08:44):
go to the spin class. Anyway, then he was like,
let's go to dinner before the spin class.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And we find ourselves at Bondai Junction, Westfield going to
all the I.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
But everything was too tired on my stomach. So I
was like, anyway, whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
No, you're ready. You're getting prepared for this spin class.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. I was getting prepared for the spin class. Anyway,
the spin class never never ended up happening. I had
work on that Friday. I'm pretty sure it's Friday yet.
So we we didn't end up meeting then. But anyway,
while we're on our farm vacate, we we were messaging,
and so we ended up setting a date for last night.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, I said, bite the bullet, just organize it.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yea go, Yeah, because you were really because I haven't.
I was so nervous. But I haven't dated for like
a good year and a half, I reckon, so it's
been a while. I I have been scarred from dating prior.
I have had a lot of situationships, so this was
definitely out of my comfort zone. I was. I think
I was getting a bit too comfortable, just you know,
(09:47):
being by myself and not really kind of allowing anyone
to kind of come into my life.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Yeah, and we low key in a relationship. You're like,
whatever before have deep pressure.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Wherever I end up in a relationship with with the
yours too. Yeah, we come as a package for one
but it was a really nice night. It was actually,
I don't know if this is sad to say this,
but it's the first time I've ever been picked up
on a date. So anyway, I got picked up from
your house and the.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
First time you've ever been picked up and dropped off
for a date.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, isn't that sad?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
It's not sad. No, you just you got lower expectations though.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Well, I mean the that I've dated have no change.
I was already like, okay tick. I was like green
tick for you, green, green tick for mister muscles.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Do we know? Do we get a name? Now that
you're going into the story, We're going to call him
mister muscles.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Still Muscles drove.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Back down, We drove back to bond Ive from Osbon House.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
We got ready, you got ready.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
You was so nervous, the energy. I've never seen you
this nervous before, and it was making me really anxious.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You were shaking and I was like, stop shaking because
I'm about to pass out. And he's like, I'm three
minutes away and I'm like fuck, I'm like, do I
need a shop before I go out on this date?
Like I'm nervous. But anyway, I went down and when
I got picked up, we went to Cafe Roma in
Pot's Point. It was really nice. Yeah, like he's a
really cool guy. He's a pet, he does spin classes,
(11:28):
he's a boxer. So like, I mean, with my hand
right now, I look like I've been boxing. I haven't.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Did he wrap your hand for you?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I wish, Oh my god, maybe I should ask him
to wrap my hand. But yeah, it was It was
a really nice night. It was the first time where
I've gone on a date that, you know, I haven't
been loved bombed. And that was weird because usually when
I speak to people, it's the total love bomb conversation,
like let's get married, let's have kids. You know, I
(11:55):
want a relationship, Let's get married in Italy. You know.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And they don't even know your parents' name.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, I mean, they don't even know what I do
for work at that problem, you know. And I was like, Okay,
this is crazy because I'm getting to know someone properly,
like the proper way of just sitting down with someone,
getting to know them who they are. I mean, you
don't know someone over one date, of course, but like
it was just really nice to sit down with someone
and share our stories about our past relationships, share what
(12:25):
we expect in each other, share what you know, what
you want in life, share who you are?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You know, and yeah, all the right signs were there. Yeah, yeah,
and you feel comfortable, you know. Do you think he
was asking all the right questions?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
There was one question that I did feel very challenged by,
and yeah, it was he asked me, have I ever
done anything wrong in a relationship? And I was like
really thinking, I'm like, have I done something wrong? I've
never cheated, crossed my heart, I've never cheated. I've never
(13:03):
been a bad person. I've never done anything malicious to
hurt anyone ever, even when in my previous situationship when
you know, I found out that this person that I
was dating had a double life, well yeah, had had
a relationship for three years and I was kind of
in the midst of it all. I didn't know, you know,
I still held that with I ended it with kindness,
(13:28):
and I wasn't a mean person. Looking back, I'm like, fuck, Jacob,
you could have really hit the fan, But I really
I moved through relationships with love and with care, and
I never want to hurt someone, you know, I don't
my parents have never taught me how to do that,
so I, you know, I just yeah, I moved with love,
and that's that's what I was trying to say to him.
I'm like, I've never done anything bad, and he's like, well,
(13:51):
I can tell you the stuff that I've done bad,
which I'm not going to get into.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
He took himself.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, he was very accountable, and I admire that. I
admire that he was accountable for his actions. Yeah, up
front and honest, and you know, that's the only thing
that you can be. On my end, though, I did
feel like I'm like, did I have I ever done
something wrong? And that played on my mind, like when
I got home, when I got home to your house,
like I was like, have I done anything wrong in
(14:17):
a relationship? I was kind of like.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I was giving you that reassurance, like you didn't
really break everything down to me because I was like,
let's save it for the podcast. Yeah, but from the
quick synopsis you gave me, I feel like you and
I are very similar and how we were raised and
it really reflects on how we, you know, treat our relationships.
And I was saying, you know, you felt challenged by
(14:45):
first of all him opening up and getting really deep
with you, which I don't think you've had in your
previous relationship anyone. From what you've told me, we go deep,
we get deep, but not from a.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Relationship relationship point of view.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
So that was really interesting to have that conversation with you.
And you know, obviously dissecting everything when you're walking away
after date is super crucial, and it's good to break
everything down, especially if you want to invest in this person,
because you know, within the first five minutes of getting
(15:22):
to know someone whether you see them as a friend
or maybe something more.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Well, I think that's I think that's a pretty valid point.
Like you do know within the first few minutes of
meeting someone, whether you have that connection, you know that
you want to see them again. I don't believe in
you have to see someone for like five months before
you make things official. No, No, you know, I think
you pretty much know straight away whether you guys are compatible,
whether you guys connect, whether you you know, and then
(15:48):
all of you know. Once you have your your groundwork,
then that's that's something you build on then and then
you build a relationship.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah, you know, I find it quite admirable hearing that
he did ask those types of questions.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
I've never been asked that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I don't think I've been asked.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
I've always been in situation on.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
My past relationship and asked myself what did I do
and how can I work on these things for my
next relationship and hold my personal experience and take accountability. So,
you know, when you just keep playing the blame game
to your partner or continues to call them out or
bitch about them in an open forum or to your friends,
(16:27):
and I purely don't think that's the greatest way to go.
It doesn't build a healthy relationship anything. It brings toxicity
into it. But it's nice that he was communicating with
you about what he had done in the past that
maybe didn't align.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
We have all been in situations where you know, like,
of course, you know, there's been shit situations in everyone's lives,
you know, But I do love that he was very
He owned up to his shit and it wasn't even
the biggest deal, but he still said that that's what
I did wrong. And I really like that. Yeah, because
(17:04):
someone that can actually sit there and own what they've
done wrong and speak about it like that's growth.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
You know, people do struggle to take account of ability
on their behavior patterns in relationships, and people do need
to own their ship and be up front. That's why
he was asking that type of question to see if
you have self awareness.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
And that's I was like, oh my god, do I
not have self awareness?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
No, I was like, do I not have self awareness?
Because he told me this, he was like, he was like, welcome,
Welcome to your counseling session.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Look, you've got a free therapy session. I don't think
you have self awareness. I think you just haven't. I've
just never dated the right person you have.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
And I don't think i've dated enough either either, Like
I've dated a few people, but not a whole shitload.
You know.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
I think that you go for men that are very
complex and you do a form of t a bonding
in situationships and relationships. Yes, because the way that you
were raised, you were fueled with so much love in
a household where you saw what it was like to
have a moving relationship and you know, the whole family
(18:15):
or deal. But for some reason, because we were raised
that way and surrounded by we kind of want to
rebel in a sense and do the opposite or try
and find people that are so messed up or traumatize
in their own way because it's maybe a challenge for us,
or we want to fix them and heal them and
(18:37):
change them and make them be a better person because
it's like a damage control element of relation.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, but I do now see the difference between someone
that is like that and then yeah, a normal person
that actually wants to find them.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, so we all want a visual appearance
of mister muscles because you know we can't see him
right now, but just give us the rundown of his
his physical features, what he looks like, so we can
visualize him because we don't have a name. We've just
got mister muscles. Muscles. So about nationality, what's the deal?
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So half Spanish, half Italian and then I think it
was like maybe ten centimeters taller than me. We might
need a rule the next time. Ten centimeters taller. Mister
muscles speaks for itself and just he's got a personality,
which I like, I'm used to dogging people with no personalities.
(19:41):
I'm always like the loud one or the one that
needs to push people around. And I said, I even
said on TikTok the other day, I'm like, I want
someone to aim and me in the middle, but also
like push me around, nudge me a little bit, like
give me a bit of something to kind of like
go off.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
You know, I think we all want No, did you kiss?
And is there a second date?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
We didn't kiss.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
I just feel like it was nice for once that
someone hasn't just like gotten into my pants or gone
in straight away. I feel like that's too soon, especially
when dating in a you know, in this world. You know,
I appreciate that. I'm like, Okay, well, this person's not
just trying to like get into my pants, you know,
they're actually like building a base first. They want to,
(20:29):
you know, see if we're compatible, build a friendship.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
So we didn't kiss, and respects their massive green tick.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Oh, he messaged me this morning. He sent me a
little good morning. He went for his run at five am.
So I think there is a second date next week.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
I'm living vigorously through you.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I'm dead. Well, yeah, it's been fun and second date
is next week on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Do you want to plan this one me? Can you
plan it?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Plan your date?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Well, like I'm supposed to plan like the new he
was supposed to. He planned the first one. Yeah, oh
my god, did I say that? He also paid for
the bill, which was so nice. It was the first
time someone's ever paid for a bill.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I cry, It's so nice. I know we have really
low expectations, but I'm kidding.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
You can tell I've had the bare fu minimum minimum.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
You have, Babe, I haven't, but you have. But that's
not honestly, that's that's so lovely of him. You know
what I'm going to plan your next day. You're going
to plan it with mister Muscles. Mister muscle Date number two?
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Can we do like nothing like to? I don't do
rock climbing, and I don't do heights like nothing.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
You don't do heights and you don't do rock climb
You love to be a foodie?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm happy. Can you play me a nice boogie
dinner bogie? Did that?
Speaker 1 (21:43):
I feel like we do that every week? I mean,
maybe not every week, every second week, but we do
that a lot. I think I need it.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I don't know if I trusted I'm one hundred.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
This next date Muscles. Stay tuned everyone, because the next
episode we're going to dissect Jacob and mister Muscle second date.
We'll see there, we will see then
Speaker 2 (22:07):
We'll see then, guys,
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