MAFS' Rhi talks pregnancy rumours, pressure on women and remaining confident

Carina recruited her Married At First Sight bestie Rhi Disljenkovic to co-host this week as Jacob was sadly busy... and the co-stars reflected on what really happened during the show, how all the brides overcame their drama to form a sisterhood, why they won’t buckle to societal pressure and how they remain confident. 

Rhi also responded to all the baby and engagement rumours about her and Jeff and gave us an update on how things are going for the show’s only successful matching this year.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, okay, Well just start off with the intro. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome,
thank you, Welcome to Sydney.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yes, thank you. Good to be here.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Kind of gives you PTSD, it does it a little bit,
a little bit triggered, coming a little bit triggered.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hey guys, welcome back to This is chaos and sadly
this week, my bestar and co host Jacob is unable
to be here due to work commitments. So of course
we thought who would we get to join me and
one name instantly came to my mind, and that's you.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Read thank you, thank you for inviting me. I'm excited
to be here.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
I'm really excited for you to be here in Sydney.
I know, let alone being on my podcast like what
I know?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Firstly crazy, you have a podcast, and secondly I have
definitely PTSD being back here. No, I had a great
experience in Sydney. I absolutely loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I'm nervous. Are you gonna lie? Really? Because I just
keep thinking without Jacob being I'm like, it's my podcast. No,
it's our podcast, don't stress. So I'm going to go
back into that. My other bestie, who was by my
side during married at First Sight and that whole experience.
I want to welcome you read to the podcast. Thank you,

(01:25):
thank you for having me. It's great to be here.
How crazy that you guys have a podcast. Wild Who
would have thought this time last year that all of
this sort of unfolded and that you would have been
sitting here in Sydney and I would be living in Sydney.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
How No, how's the move?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's been good. I feel like I've been NonStop. It
has not like my life has been so busy with
obviously flying into state for appearances and coming to Melbourne.
I feel like I'm in Melbourne every second week.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
I love that for me.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
I also love that I might move to Melbourne, believe it. No, no, no,
I've stick to Sydney. Give it a go. You know,
it's a big transition for myself and moving into my
brand new apartment and just furnishing all that. I'm keeping
myself busy. But again, I do miss my family, but
I think this is definitely where I need to be,
especially on the East Coast.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah so, yeah, good.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
But I wanted to, you know, really hear your experience
on the show, and you know, we both came off
married at first sight, we were co ho, we were
co stars, yes, and we created such a beautiful, unique

(02:41):
relationship and friendship. And this episode for me is very
you know, special in my eyes, and it's meaningful, it's unique,
and I'm honestly so honored to have you here with me.
Thank you so much. You're always smiling. I just can't
stop looking at your teeth. I'm getting side tractors, like

(03:02):
I'm trying to pick you up. It's day. This amazing
makeup that she did, she did, yes, yes, mass incredible,
incredibly gifted makeup artists. And we are also friends, which
is so lovely. I love when, like the industry becomes
like a friendship circle. Right, we've got our Melbourne.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
I meet such amazing people, especially after the experience that
we've had, and I think, like what you said about
this is a sentimental episode. Who'd have thought that coming
off Maths we would have established such great friendships. And
you know, I've watched Maths. I've watched many seasons of Maths,
and you know, you can see that there are a
lot of friends that do stick together because you do
go on this such a crazy wild ride with one

(03:46):
another and Yeah, it's great that you get to share
it with people that.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
You really enjoy their company, you know.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, it's very special, and I think, like you said,
going on this wild journey together, and we're so lucky
and grateful that we were able to experience something that
not many people experience. In saying that, it is also
a very triggering I mean, pressure cooker environments. So myself,

(04:15):
I'm personally so grateful to have made such an easy friendship.
And also I feel like you and I gravitate towards
each other because we are so similar in so many
different aspects as well, we definitely are, and we also
look like sisters, especially now they look like sisters. Okay,

(04:35):
so I want us to do a little bit of
a rewind, sure before the cameras, before our big wedding days,
signing the contracts of going on maths. Who was re
in the dating world? Take me back to your you know,
your past experiences, your past relationships, your twenties and your

(05:00):
life story.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Well, I've always been a relationship kind of gal. I
have been in a couple of long term relationships. I
was single I think for about a year and a
half before going on married at first sight, and I
did do my I guess, fair share of dating in
that time frame. I think when you are older, like
I'm now thirty five I was thirty four, then you know,

(05:23):
you do, as much as you want to enjoy your
own time, you do want to find that person because
you don't know how long it's going to take. But
in regards to the dating world, look, it's definitely tough.
You meet such great people as well, but it's just
not your person. And I think I've said this so
many times that sometimes people might be perfect on paper,

(05:43):
but then in person and the longer that you spend
with someone, it just doesn't just doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, you know what I mean. And I think that
was one of.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
My biggest struggles is forever having doubt in relationships and dating,
Like I never felt like I was with someone and
was one hundred percent certain, and that was something I
carried throughout my whole dating life.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And it was quite exhausting.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I guess that was when the MATHS opportunity came about.
When I got that dmy kind of so.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
You got dm'd as well. Yeah, so I don't remember.
I mean, I have the memory span and the goldfish,
But I don't remember everyone's stories pre going on the show.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Will they reach out to a fair few people like
just I guess seeing who's out there and the type
of personality, and I remember it's sitting there in my requests.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, for quite some time, I actually thought it was.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Spam for a little bit a But the turning moment
for me was having an appointment with my psychologist and
I just said to her, like, I'm in a real
rut in my life where i feel like I'm just
doing the same thing day in day out, Like I've
got great friends and family, I've got a good job,
but I'm just missing that person. Yeah, And I said,
I feel like I need to shake up. And she said,

(06:59):
what's something that wouldn't do? What's something crazy that re
wouldn't do? And I'm like, I thought of that DM instantly,
and I'm like, I'm going to reply to that DM. Wow,
replied to the DM. The next day, I had a
zoom call. The ball just kept rolling.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, I think a lot of people want to know. Also,
how long was the process for you, like your application
because mine was quite quick as well. But then I
know a lot of people apply from I think January
when that show actually airs, like our season has aired
in January, and then people are applying already. So was

(07:35):
your application process quick?

Speaker 3 (07:37):
I think my messages came through around April potentially. I
think they messaged me twice as well from memory, but
I remember I didn't hear anything back for a while
after I had my in person meeting and I thought, oh,
maybe this wasn't for me. And then I got a
phone call and they're like, oh, we're just trying to
find your match, but like hold time, make sure you're
not doing anything from July onwards. And I'm like, oh, okay,

(07:59):
no worries. But really it happened quite quickly from there.
Like I remember having to plan the wedding dress and everything.
It felt so rushed. Yeah, it just really rough. So
it went from zero to one hundred, Yeah quite quick,
real quick, like you know, like zero to one hundred.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
And were you in the like were you worried about
who you were going to be matched with? Like what
were you more stressed about? For me, I was so
busy getting everything sorted, organizing the bridesmaid dresses, my family
because my whole family flew over for the wedding. And
then my family were dealing with like babysitters and who's

(08:37):
going to look after the kids on the West Coast.
And then my little niece, who was only eight weeks old,
wasn't able to actually be at the wedding because obviously
for occupational health and safety, so we had to find
a full time nanny based in Sydney to look after
her while my sister would quickly run out during the
wedding and breastfeed and blah blah blah. So I was

(08:59):
so busy organizing all of that that I didn't even
think about the person at the end of the aisle, Like,
was that in the mix.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Of your experience or yeah, definitely, Like I remember thinking,
you know, if I'm not instantly attracted to the person,
I'm going to give that person the time of day
and get to know them, because you know, you give
up a lot to be on the experiment. I wasn't
going to do a ruh, you know, run straight away
if I didn't have that instant spark, which.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
A few people did from the show.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I think my biggest concern was not even being
able to establish a friendship with my match, like if
they were completely different to me, but I get on
with everyone. I feel like I've got a similar personality
to you. You get on with everyone. Yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
How we clicked so well and gravitated towards each other.
And I also think the European I don't want to
keep saying it, but like we're special. There's there's something
in the European ocean or something where Yeah, it was
a similar upbring and values and yeah, we had a
lot of things that we could relate to you, and
I think, yeah, that's why we did instantly click from

(10:06):
their hands.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, straight away.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I remember thinking as soon as I met you, I
remember thinking, Wow, she's stunning. And then I got to
know you, and I'm like, oh, she's got an even
better personality.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Am I perfect?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
God, that's such a compliment. Thank you so much. And
I can say the exact same thing back. Tin. I'm
not just saying that, but like everything, you just radiate
the best energy and your smile. Like one of my
girlfriends actually said in the question box, because I asked Instagram,
I took to Instagram saying that you're going to come
on the podcast and if anyone has any questions about anything,

(10:37):
just ask us. And my girlfriend actually said, how does
Ree speak and smile at the same time. It's like
a craft, And I was like, no, shit, it's a craft.
It's like you're genetically gifted because your smile, and just
like from an exterior point of view, it's incredibly strong
and gorgeous and unique, but also like that's who you

(11:00):
are as a human, like you radiate such incredible, gorgeous,
like easy energy.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Thank you so much that.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
I think the smile, like a lot of people say,
you always have a smile on your face.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
I am generally a happy person. I do try and
look at the I'm a glass half full type of person.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
So I always try and look at the positive in
every relation, in every situation.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Sorry, yeah, but in regards to.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Sometimes my smile could be a nervous smile if I'm
feeling like even pain, Like if I'm at the physio
and someone's massaging me and it's absolutely killing, I start
cracking up laughing and they're like, how are you laughing
right now?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
How is this funny?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I'm like, I don't know how I deal with things,
so I think I've just got a really good poker face.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Well, I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (11:43):
What about when you do an ice bath and you
know how they say we did an ice bath together. Yeah,
I remember that when we did it. It's super young
and Helburn. That was really that was such a nice experience.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
That was a good expense. My gosh, I think we
were both laughing that day. We were we were like,
we were laughing pain exactly. Don't cry about you just laugh.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
But they say, like when you do the ice bats,
releasing a lot of like like a lot of you know,
voices going high pitch and kind of like, well.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Because we're screaming, that's right, yes, And then I remember
the owner was like, are you guys okay because she
was screaming in the eye spot like we're.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Just freezing out. We're really enjoying each other's company, but
we're struggling, but we're just gonna smile and we're letting
it all out. Apparently that's a good like form of release.
I'll just get when I come to Melbourne at the
end of the month. That's still another one again and
we'll get onto that sure. But yeah, it's such a
I honestly admire. It's so admiring and more girls need

(12:47):
a smile because life is too short. So I want
to ask you, what kind of partner do you think
you are? I can be like my Italian genetics can
sometimes get in the way, or maybe the tous in
me where I will give absolutely everything to my partner.

(13:08):
I will drop everything at the job like you know, everything,
and put them first and prioritize and give them my awe.
But then if something little happens, I can sting a bit,
so like yeah, you know what, what the type of
partner I think? I'm a very considerate person. That's just
as a whole.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I always think of other people and how I can
make their life easier, and I feel like that's what
I really try and do in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
So I'm always thinking about Jeff and how I can
make his life easier.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
So also access service is a big thing for me
and I love receiving it as well, like take the
bin out and I'm all for you. I just like
it when people think about when they're a step ahead,
and I try and be like that in a relationship
as well. So that's just keeping the house clean, getting
things ready. And Jeff is extremely considerate as well, so
I think that's another thing like why we gel so

(14:00):
well because our values and who we are as people
in a.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Relationship are very very similar.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
I'm extremely affectionate and touchy feely, like I'm all.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Even on the plane on the.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Way here, Jeff was probably thinking get off me. I
had my legs on him, I had my arms locked
in him. Even the flight attendants of walking past looking
at us with the biggest smile, thinking though, because I'm
just a leech.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
But I love making my partner feel like loved and wanted. Yeah,
so I do try and remind him all the time,
Like I'm always like, you look so good, you look so.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Hard little koala, I asked amongst the tree. Yeah, that's
the best though, And honestly, like like you said that,
that's your your that's how you show your love for
that person. Definitely, and that's really special. Talking about Jeff
and talking about you know, your relationship. People have always
asked me, you and I had a very similar encounter.

(14:59):
We both knew our partners that we got matched with.
What on earth? How crazy is that?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Like crazy?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
And we are so close and we're so similar and
it's just wild, Like do you think production planned that
they knew.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
That Jeff and I followed each other, and I know
that they knew who followed each other.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
They couldn't have known we dated.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
It's impossible because even though we dated for one month,
but even my bridesmaid, Dora, one of my bridesmaids, who's
my best friend, she had no idea who Jeff was.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Because as you get older.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
You know, you don't tell your best friends every single
person you date. You might go on a few dates ago, nah,
and then when they're like how you being, You're like, yeah, good,
but like they're just sometimes you don't mention every single thing.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm going to be a bit of a gatekeeper until
it might even be serious.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
So they couldn't have known that we dated, but they
did know that we knew each other in some capacity.
So yeah, Apparently when I walked down the aisle and
Jeff said hey, Ree, and I'm like, hey Jeff, apparently
the producers were piercing themselves laughing.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
So I'm like, little ship wasn't Mia.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, I don't know who because I was too busy
being nervous, trying to think of how to redo my
vowels for someone who was clearly not a stranger, but yes,
they definitely knew we knew each other and someway that.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, I was quite similar, like I obviously the environment
is so it's scary, like you're not it's not familiar place.
You don't know how to how to be and like
how to compose yourself. Like I'm a very big yes girl,
Like I'm a big doer and I will abide by
everything I remember. Like that's why I found it so

(16:43):
great working with the producers and everything from the show.
And we have a surprise for here for me. So, guys,
we just got some beautiful cakes made. They are stunning,

(17:03):
and it does look quite familiar, Yeah it does. It
does miniature versions of our wedding cakes from the day
of our wedding. I'm married at first sight, do you know.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
I remember eating this cake at the end of the
night and we forgot it and I was devastated.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm like, I don't even get to taste the wedding cake.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
And then all of a sudden, a producer rocks up
about half an hour later and gives us the cake.
We sat there at the table eating our wedding cakes
in an awkward silence, waiting for the producers to leap.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Was this before you go to your airbnb?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
This was at the airbnb.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh, this was at the bit they brought the cake
to the airbnb. Yeah, oh my god. How's that for service? Yeah?
I know even I didn't even touch my cake. And
la petite tart is that how I pronounce it? La
petite tart? So crazy. I was just on Instagram and
I've got so many dms that unfortunately I am trying
to get through to and I came across the I

(17:59):
think I was looking at the photos of our wedding
day or something, and then I saw that she had
the cakes and I was like, wait, oh my gosh,
this was my wedding day cake. And so I just
did I react or something? And then I liked your
photo because I was going through. And then she goes,
if you're in Sydney, I would love to make a

(18:21):
mini version of your wedding day cake. And I was
like wait. I was like, wait, that would be incredible.
I live in Sydney now and I've got recoming on
the podcast, and she was like, oh, We'll make you guys,
both your wedding day cakes and miniature version.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
So thank you so much. What surprised you most about
the experiment?

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Definitely, what surprised me the most was the lack of
flexibility around filming. I thought that we'd be able to
film and then go for a walk and then go
to the gym and then do your thing.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
No, you got to stay until you're allowed to leave.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
And I'm someone who is so active, you know, I
feel like when I'm when I stay at home not
doing anything, twiddling my thumbs for too long. After everything's clean,
I'm like, okay, I need.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
To move now.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I remember for the first week, Jeff and I were
actually doing burpies inside our hotel because we needed to move,
and I'm like, okay, let's just do burpies. But I
tell you what, those burpies lasted a week and then
the weight slowly just kept going on and.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
On and on.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Because I was usually doing about twelve to fifteen thousand
steps a day we're on the experiment, I was doing
about between three and five thousands. It's just not enough,
but yeah, pretty much. Yeah, the lack of flexibility, And
I understand why they do it because obviously, if we're
communicating outside of like what's off camera, it ruins storylines
and everything. But I thought I'd get to enjoy Sydney. Yeah,

(19:44):
a little bit more so, I see a little bit. Yeah,
just a random Wednesday lunch outing.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, no, nope, nope, filming cold times, yeah, all technology
taken off us. Basically, it was like COVID time totally.
It was even I I think the biggest thing that
one of the most interesting things for me was that
we weren't even allowed to converse. I remember you and
I would bump into each other and we couldn't even

(20:11):
stop and have a quick conversation. Yes and yeah, our
producers or the house a piece, but like, keep moving,
keep moving. And I was like, I just want to
do work out with you. Remember you would come back
and You're like I just ran fifteen k's and I'm
like what. And then one day you and Jeff did
twenty k's. I was like what. I was like, okay.
I was like girl, And then I'm asking you, asking
you all these questions about your diet and what what

(20:34):
else you do for fitness, and I was like okay,
but we're getting told off and I would freak out
and I'd be like, we're.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Not even talking about the experiment. We're talking about literally talking.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
About fitness, and I would just always like look up
to you because you're so into your fitness and your
health and your well being. Thank you, which is super inspiring.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Let's talk about My stomach is rumbling? How wild there?
I know, I'm like, I keep staring at your cake
and I'm like, yeah, it around. I don't know, I'm
like that, I don't about it. We definitely have to
have a coffee and cake after this. Uor Angelina sen
Sory's calling me? Should I answer it?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Hi?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Babe? Oh my god, Angelina. I I just have to
tell you you are calling and I have my phone
right here with my questions and I've got my Girlfriendrie
from the show and we're recording my podcast, so you're
on speaker.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Hi.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
How you going? How this is? I love hearing from you.
What are you up to? You're back in Australia. Ah,
I know this is so random, but I'll call you
as soon as I'm done filming the podcast and we'll
have a little chitty chat. Yes, of course, Thanks babe.

(21:42):
Thanks babe, I'll keep in touch. I'll call you soon.
Bye babe. Bye.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
I think I've met her maybe before like seeing her
in the sow one.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Does she still work at rock Ebony.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, she still works there, but just causy. But she's
been traveling all around the world with her sister Bianca
and Kanye What.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
So rand what an amazing experience.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
A little story about her. She's so lovely. When I
was in Melbourne and remember we're getting out her and
makeup done, I was with Jamie and we were at
rock Ebony in South Tiarra and Alex and Angelina were
doing our makeup and she came and dropped me off
my coffee and I was like wait. I was like,
she looked so familiar. And I was like, I was like,

(22:21):
is that Angelina sensory? And Alex was like, yeah, that is.
She works here casually and I was like wait what.
I was like, I followed her on Instagram for so
many years. I just love her style and her fashion,
and Alex was I'll go get her. And then anyway,
she comes back and we have a massive chat.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's so cute.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
She's so lovely and she wished me a happy birth
and I was like, you're You're so sweet. Anyway, that
was a little fun, fun call. So random but anyway,
let's get back to it talking about Jamie, our friendship
and everything. You know, no bad blood at all, right,

(22:58):
and we doing a lot of appearances together.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
But you guys look like you're having a great time.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, we are, and I love it and I love
the friendship, and you know, I've always been in Jamie's
court like, and I appreciate our friendship and get along
with her so well. Obviously what happened on the show,
it was, yeah, I think a miscommunication or whatever it was.
But post show we caught up a lot, right. We

(23:26):
came and celebrated your birthday and that kind of thing,
and then obviously doing some appearances, we had a big
chat and a lot of you know, viewers were team
Karna and team Jamie. Right now, I feel like the
air is cleared righty, and you've seen it. It's not
a fake friendship. It's legitship. It's a real friendship. And

(23:48):
you know, I think it's like Team Charlie Angels or
Team Team Sister Teams sisterhood definitely.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I think.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
Yeah, on the experiment, everything is really magnified and you're
not sleeping well, you're not eating as well as you
normally would you live and breathe maths and everything just
feels so fresh and raw and real, And it's funny
when you look back, I think, why was I so
stressed during those times?

Speaker 2 (24:14):
What made me so stressed?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
But I guess it is the environment and it is
very testing and it does show like how resilient we
all really are, the fact that we can recognize where
we've gone wrong, where we've gone.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Right, what we need to improve on.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
Yes, And I think it also goes to show that
we're bigger people being able to overcome something like that.
And I think if a friendship is worth having, you
forgive people because.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Not everyone's perfect totally. Everyone makes mistakes.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
And yeah, I think that we both had to really
have a good friendship with Jamie and it's great that
we can now on the outside of the show remain
so close.

Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah. And I also think it's something where we experienced
such a unique experience and we went through this together. Yeah,
and not many people can say that they did that.
So it's a beautiful thing that a friendship and has
blossomed out of it. And that's how that's the way
I look at it. I'm like, I'm such a big

(25:14):
like I don't know. I look forward. I look forward,
and I don't I don't hold grudges. I don't want
any grudges. I want to everyone around me. I want
to succeed and be happy and spread positive vibes. And
how I see is that we all went through this
experiment together and not many people can relate to that.

(25:36):
So it's nice that we are able to share those
experiences and still have a beautiful friendship moving forward post experiment.
I think as well, Like you know, when someone asks
you a question about the experiment, I always say, be
more specific, because really, if someone's like, how was it.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's like where do I start? We're gone for four months. Yeah,
it's just such a big wild ride. So when yeah,
maintaining like these amazing friendships, like you can just start
in any like part of the experiment and they know
exactly Yes, you can start talking about any part of
the experiment experiment and they know exactly where what you
talk and what we.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Were going through. It's relatable and they understand like the
pressure cooker environment. For me, it was also I remember
us running into each other and be like, how are
you feeling, And we will both say we're absolutely drained.
And that was even towards the beginning when my relationship
was going great and yours obviously was good as well
with Jeff, but it wasn't even difficult times that we

(26:34):
were encountering, but we both were still so exhausted and drained.
Like mentally, I think.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
How often do you talk about your feelings morning, midday
and night? And also you're repeating yourself so much, and
you can see why you have to do it, Yeah,
but I think especially after the dinner party, in the
commitment ceremony, on such little sleep, and then you've got
to talk about your feelings in a boxy and it's
like I just told you yesterday how I feel last night,
and I feel exactly the same as I did last

(26:59):
night now, and then also at lunchtime, I'm gonna feel
the same.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Do you not say the same.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
So it's like fuck, But it's crazy that you're a
producer has a job to do, So I feel like
what's so crazy is also that they were feeling.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
It was like a reflection as well. Like even the
camera crew, the audio and the producers would like intwine
with us as they.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Will relate to us a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, back us up, like no, you're right, r yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I am right, and they give encouragement and then they
also feel when wear down, they're down, like they are
so energy zapped as well. I remember speaking to one
of my producers and Blake, he had a partner, and
he was like, when I get home, I just want
to vege it. I don't even want to speak to
my partner with like how my day's gone and ask

(27:46):
them questions because I've been doing that all day. And
I was like, well that makes sense. So they really
they have a very difficult job to do. Honestly, A
massive applaud to all everyone or the crew, all the producers,
a cast like it's in. It's funny how when producers
would say like, please try not have serious conversations off camera,
It's like.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Don't worry, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
I just want to.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
I want to talk about absolutely nothing.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I want to put Netflix on, snuggle up to Jeff,
and need to block a chocolate.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
The last thing I feel like doing is repeating.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yourself and talking. It's like absolutely not, Oh my god,
talking about that. Though the group chats were wild, I
actually felt like I was back in high school. That's
how I felt with like all the different chats that
were situations. Yeah, and I remember Paul and I really
definitely stayed. And I feel like you and Jeff were
similar until people brought you into them to ask for
advice and to vent kind of thing. But I definitely

(28:38):
was so oblivious to all the drama that was going on,
and I would always like come to the dinner party
and be like, wait, what happened? What's happened? I'm like
another fight with Jackie and Ryan. Oh god, okay, that
makes sense. But I remember Paul and I was so
out of it, and then everyone just knew so much
information and shit that was going on, and I would
be like wait what Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Sometimes would have like late face, like drunken face.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
Times we've all gone out in the weekend and had
a few and then we'd like FaceTime each other in bed,
and then the house aps would knock on the door
and be like I can.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Hear get off the phone? Shot that mainly to Jamie
and Jamie and Dave.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, yeah, they just call us.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Sometimes it would be one o'clock and Jeff and I
are still up and you're.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Like okay, You're like all right, we didn't really ever
do that, Paul and I we never did. We We
we would message a bit and remember we sent the
selfies of us on the couch and then you guys
responded the same and we were like, hey, we're just chilling, yeah,
but eating all the chocolate and the Alan's lollies. So
we would get sponsored by Alan's and Nesley and they

(29:44):
would house people come drop off so much our body
weight in in confectionery. Yeah yeah, and we would just
snack on that and they'll put them by the door
as a little gift of surprising. The Cocoabella water and
then the yogurt at three am in the morning, it
hit yeah, hit different. Did you ever eat the noodles?

Speaker 2 (30:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (30:03):
No, I didn't eat them. Eat oats or the oats.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, and I eat oats every day, I know.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
And now I'm like, once you so I stayed at
your place, right, remember when I came to Melbourne as
a major overnightes Yes, and you did the overnight oats
with berries. Oh my gosh, delicious. You're obsessed with protein
and stuff. You really open my eyes up to ingredients.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Simple.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Jeff has started Jeff Eats, which I'm obsessed with.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, he's going really well.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
He's he speaks really well on camera, and his recipes
are so easy and delicious.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
And I'm the now the camera woman.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Great, you're behind the camera. Look at least you're getting
all different you know, you're really learning all the different
angles and the different techniques.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
I'm actually tracking the macros as he's making it, which
is so much fun.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I can't wait for after day of work to come
home and film him cook.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
It's actually it's actually great and we can we just
like have fun during it.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah. Yeah, and it's like, you don't need to watch
My kitchen Rules. You've literally got it in your own
kitchen feets.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
You just see.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
I bought him an apron and I surprised him. He
was talking and then I put it over his head
and I got jeff eat all that.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
I was like, wow, you were honestly girlfriend goals, WiFi goals. Sorry,
my apologies to wearing a wedding.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Ring right, yes, And the other day Jeff forgot it
twice and I'm like, excuse me, can you put your back.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
On, Jeffrey? What is going on?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's very sentimental now.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Honestly, I wear it on my left finger and I
just I just like it there, and so when I
see he's not on his left finger, I'm offended.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I would be as well. But what I'm really hoping
you washed your hair and had a quick shower and
you left.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
The other day he had a night out with tj
oh Okay.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
He wore it that day.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
It was another time that he went out and I
was like, where's your ring? He's like, I forgot it? Sure, sure,
You're like, well, it made him feel really guilty, so
he would never forget it again.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
I would be that kind of partner. I have girlfriend,
whatever you want to call it, and make sure it's
like glued on gluteninger, like right near the bedside table,
like don't forget Yeah, write a little note. I'm crazy
when it comes to stuff like that. How do you
feel that your relationship was on the show and now

(32:20):
off the show? Does it how does it compare? Is
it different or very much the same? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I think one of my big concerns. One of my
biggest concerns was the.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
Experiment actually holding our relationship together, because you know, you
have to be with each other every single day. You're
made to do a lot of things together on the weekends,
we did everything together, and I thought, oh, I hope
that on the outside world it reflects like the same,
and to be honest, the outside is even better, Like
it just shows that our relationship really is that strong.
And I think like Jeff and I choose to hang

(32:48):
out all the time, like we want to do everything together.
And I feel like we are now in that real
honeymoon phase, because I feel like the honeymoon period doesn't
really have and on the show, like as much as
you go through those feelings of liking one another, there's
so much pressure around it that it's like you're stressed
at the same time as a honeymoon period, whereas outside

(33:11):
of the experiment was so stress free. And then we
just got to really enjoy each other's company. So no,
it's been it's been amazing together.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Well, it's definitely no clickbait, no front page article headliners
saying that you guys are doing this, you know, for publicity.
It's real. I've witnessed it. I've stayed with you guys
for like what nearly three weeks in your new apartment,
new house. Ye, and you guys are so welcoming and
so inviting that you even gave me a key, and

(33:42):
you guys would go to work in the morning and
I would work from home, and you're like, come and
go whenever you please. Here's your key. We've all sorted
out the bed feet and I was like, oh my goodness,
and it was just such a beautiful environment to be around.
And honestly, it's I love watching your relationship because I
look up to it. It's so similar to my siblings relationships.

(34:03):
And yeah, I'm very I'm very like inspired by it,
and I hope that I find that person for me
in the future. We'll go definitely, thank you, please expect it.
How do you guys navigate the pressure of the public
and social media?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
You know, I think that comes with agreeing to go
on a show like Married at First Sight. You know,
a lot of people come over to you and want
photos and want to chat about your experience, and you know,
I really enjoy the support from everybody. And also I
know it's going to be pretty short lived. Like it's
not like I'm not Kim Kardashian. You know, I'm not
going to walk down the street and I'm going to
get bombarded by people for the rest of my life.

(34:42):
It probably happened for a hot six months and then
the newcast will come and will be like see a rain, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
But but no, it's been really lovely.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Like I've had so much many positive comments, also some negative,
but that's so fine.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
That comes with it, also comes with the nature. That's
why we have thick skin and we've got one another.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, if that's exactly right. But no, it's been. It's
been so fine. I do find that now, Like I
used to go to Kohl's and Woolworths looking like an
absolute bum.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Now I do try and do my hair. You could,
just in case, because you tell Tea what.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Every single time I'm looking terrible, someone's like, can I
have a photo with you?

Speaker 2 (35:17):
And I'm like, sure, no problem. You can't really deny it,
so no, sorry, I look like shit. I'm just like, Noah, sure.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
You could never look terrible. Just an fire. You look,
you look not even exactly the same. You look better
without makeup. That's a fire that is not for real. No,
for just.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Defended Jess a beautiful makeup job.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
If you're if you're listening, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
It's not you. It's not you, it's the product. It's
the products. Okay, you're so nuture without makeup and your eyes, oh,
thank you. Just every time at the dinner parties, I
would see you and your makeup would be the same.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Same with you, same with you.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
It's like that one time, one time in the week
that we really to go be extra. It's funny people
comment like, how much makeup are you wearing, and it's like, guys,
we literally worn barely any makeup all the other days.
It's one day that you get to just be that
little bit extra. It's a dinner party. You meant to
glance up and we loved.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Doing that and going all out, and so we should,
you know, definitely, and your eyes would just always pop
and I'd be like, thank you makeup.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Artist, thank you, Belinda, thank you for thinking to all.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Our makeup artists and and hair stylists for making us
look and feel a borgeous for those seventeen hour filming days,
Like I know, I look at the end of the
day on a boxing meant a face on for the
amount of hours that we filmed for you can also
your eyes towards the end of the interview, I'm I'm

(36:46):
drunk and way there was one part. There actually a
few times where you you and Jeff would get voxed
or you would get boxed after and I would know,
I knew that you were. It was like at the
end of the night.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
There was one time eyelash was completely in my my
hair was completely in my eyelash. It's on tiktop and
then people are trying to wipe it from my face
on TikTok Oh. It was so funny, but I'm like,
whoever that camera person was, you need to be fired.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Yeah, literally, because I can help the girl out one
hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I would always ask my producer be like Vic Boobs,
like okay, like tell me if I've got some broccoli
and my teeth from the food. I just say, like,
you know, you knew, what's so funny. My family would
always save me, Kriana every time I would watch you
the dinner party, always eating same with me. I was like, well, yeah,
call I'm hungry, and I'm like, I don't want to
get involved in the drama bread. We were so similar.

(37:38):
We would be with such avoidance and we actually re
and I have something very in common, like we are
very anxious, riddled women and that is okay. That is fine.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
It was fine, but gosh, those parties sometimes. I remember
that dinner party after retreat. I ate nothing. I ate nothing,
and Jeff's like eat and a Fina was like eat.
I'm like, I actually can't stand if anything. I was
so nervous.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
That's a turning. I remember when we were sitting on
those couches. We had no idea what was about to
happen or what was going to come our way, but
I was freaking out. I remember I was like, I'm sweating.
I was full of sweat. Yeah. Oh, I don't miss
those times because you just never know what's going to
be presented on those platters at the dinner party. Aheads,

(38:21):
A heads, yes, I'm ready to chopin me both. I
want to know what's going on for the future, re
what's going on in your life post MATHS experience. It's
been a few months since it's finished airing, and our
life has honestly been a whirlwind. I can speak on
my behalf, but I feel that you're very similar with

(38:43):
how busy you've been, so much going on in your life.
What are we to hear and see for the future?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
All three, I've had my fitness blog, training au for
It'll be three years in December this year. It's something
I've been really passionate, passionate about for a really long
time because I always try every new fitness fat I'm
always trying new gym's, pilates, yoga. I love health and wellness,
and I remember when I started the blog, I had
packs everywhere and I thought to myself, I'm just going

(39:11):
to start blogging my experiences. Started doing that. People love
my content. So I was getting paid to go and
visit gyms. I'm like, this is this is a dream job.
So I was pretty much doing that part time, which
I'm trying to make full time. But I also started
so during my Maths experience, I gained quite a bit
of weight and the unhealthy habits that I you know,
I've always been someone really proud of my body and

(39:33):
someone confident in their body and from Maths, and I
can't fully blame Maths because I carried those habits outside
of Maths with just my eating and lack of steps
and way more lax with my diet, and I started
feeling my clothes were really tight. My mental health wasn't
as good because I'm such a positive person.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I really related to because I was a personal trainer
for quite some time and when people were telling me
about their insecurities, I'm like, this is what that felt like.
Because in the past, I'm like, you know, just go
for a run, just do this, just do that, But
sometimes you don't have the mental space to do those things.
And it really opened my eyes. So I started a

(40:13):
challenge called five for You, which is five daily habits
to introduce to your life, and I set like a
default five for everyone.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
A lot of people are doing the five.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Yeah, it's amazing. So where do you read it? Like,
so you wake up in the morning, a lot of
people check their phone. But what would you recommend for
people to implement? Do they memorize these five daily habits
and then they speak out loud in front of the
mirror when they're having a shower.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
It's honestly just like a challenge, a five week challenge
that I've set. And there's five habits and the habits
are they're very simple, but I tell you what, they're
very easy to not do. So one of them is
seven to eight hours sleep at night. Another one try
and eat as many whole foods as possible, do a workout,
two to three liters of water a day. But if
they don't align with you, you can change them. But

(41:00):
it's to tick them off every single day for five weeks,
and I've had such an amazing response. I started an
Instagram page, which is it's free, it doesn't cost anything.
It's just a community of people doing the exact same thing.
And people I'm sharing recipes, people are showing their recipes
of what they're making. And I've had so many messages
come through to saying I feel so much better following
these five habits every single day. And I think it's

(41:22):
just the accountability that people lack, and people know.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
What to do.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
Nine times out of ten, people know what they're not doing.
But having that community and accountability of people doing the
same thing, it's good motivation.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Well that's why I did it.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
I'm like, if I get everyone else to do it,
I have to do it. So now I'm like I
get to like I look at my steps and I've
done seven thousand. I'm like, oh, I got to do
ten thousand every day. A lot of people don't realize
how little steps they do. They think I've done my
workout today, that's enough, and then they do not move
for the rest of the day, where me just dropping
my daily step count because I was still eating relatively

(41:55):
healthy at the start of maths, I watched my weight
come on because of the lack of movement.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
So everyone, you know, I think the main focus for
you and Jeff post experiment and even during the experiment
was like, your relationship is going so well. You guys
are basically married, Yeah, but you're not, you know, properly married. Yes,
and kids are a massive, big talking point.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Huge, everyone wants to know about, woe wants to know.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
So I want to clear the air. Sure, I have
you here sitting with me right now, and I know
how honest and vulnerable you can get in front of me,
So let's clear the air. What's going on.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
Yes, I'm not pregnant, although every article says I am.
And I think the weight game contributed to the pregnancy comments.
And then I saw a few comments about me putting
on weight, which is like, you know, it just sucks
that women have to explain their body changes all the time. Yeah,
like men don't. I swear men don't have to do
that as much as we do.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
No shit, it's like, sorry, our hormones are always up here.
Get our periods. You try being a man and getting
a period.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
For when you have your period, you do look three
months pregnant for a couple of days there. But I think, look,
I was really honest with That's why I was honest
with putting on weight and why I was starting a challenge,
and because of the comments that I was getting. But
Jeff and I definitely want to have kids at some stage.
I think right now, it's just we do want to
just focus on, you know, creating our home, like we've

(43:24):
recently moved in together and enjoying each other's company outside
the experiment, and we're both busy doing our own thing.
And as much as you know, I am thirty five,
I've got into metriosis. I was told at twenty five
I will probably have trouble having children. And they actually
told me when I had surgery when I was twenty five,
I should have kids that year, and I was like.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I'm single.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Oh so I just got goosebums, I know.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
So it'll be it'll be an interesting journey, I think
when we do try and start having kids, and it's
definitely on the cards, but just not right at.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
This yeah, and no pressure and don't let society pressure
you in those ways. Yeah, I think it's just keep
doing what you guys are doing.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
And kids change a lot of things too, Like right now,
I think that it would almost be like it just
wouldn't be great timing. I feel like I wouldn't be
a great mum right now because of all the things
I have going on. I really want to make sure
it's the right time. But then my mum tells me
there is no right time, just fee pregnant whenever, and
you make it work.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Marriage. Because you guys did get married on a reality show,
what's your take on proper marriage? Like, are you interested
in getting married.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Or just you know what's really funny?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I always said prior to the show, marriage for me
has never been something like when women talk about I've
always imagined, like my wedding to be like this, my
dress to be like this.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I want to have this big wedding for me.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
I was just like, I just want to find my
person that I have not a doubt in my mind about.
And that was my biggest concern. I think marriage for me,
it's really not a necessity. If my partner said, like
I really want to get married one hundred percent. But
if I didn't get married, it wouldn't affect me, if

(45:05):
that makes sense. As much as a relationship is something
to be celebrated for, and people can celebrate that however
they like. But you know, if Jeff did turn around
and ask me to marry.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Him, I wouldn't say no.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
So exciting. Look again, it's completely did you hear that, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.
I'll come ring shopping with you. Wink, wink, nudge and nudge.
You know. I'm sure Ree might have a Pinterest board.
I know I do of the ring I want. Maybe
I'll just start making my opinion. Yeah, put it out there.

(45:40):
But look, as long as you guys are happy, that's
all that matters. And that is the biggest thing. That
you're in a healthy, loving relationship and you both are
definitely in that time of your life. We are going
to play a game, a quick five game. Okay, okay,

(46:01):
I want you to say the first thing that comes
to your mind.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Okay, okay, are you ready ready?

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Question one most unexpected part of the experiment or the
long hours, most emotional moment, retreat, least favorite part of filming.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Like this sounds kind of siep the lack of movement
and being able to do what you want in between filming.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
So fine.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, that is my biggest hate.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
A cast member who surprised you, Elliott? Why wait, eleborate
on that.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
Because like Elliott, like obviously he's such a nice guy.
I heard obviously Laurens side and he came.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
Back agreed, it's the nicest dude ever.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, he surprised me the most for sure.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Okay, do you regret anything?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
No, I don't regret anything.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Would you do it again? Yes, that's my biggest question.
People always ask would you do the show?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Would definitely do the show again.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
As as much as it was a very anxious experience
and exhausting, it was such a great experience because we
learn a lot about ourselves and how resilient resilient we
really are.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
And I feel like it's made me a better person.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Absolutely, I can fully agree with you. I feel like
I've learned how to be more confrontational and that was
something I was always so worried about. And I would
again like not be avoidant. Yeah, an avoidant, and I
never want to upset anyone or hurt anyone, And when
someone's upset with me and you're very similar or angry

(47:32):
at me, and I don't know why, and I just
I just want everyone to love me. And I think
that's because I love so hard and I love so
much and I really, deep down just want to be loved.
So I project that. So when someone's upset, I'm not
good at confrontation.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Definitely, I feel you there.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
We can resonate, okay. Ree. So, like I said before,
I did a questionnaire on Instagram saying that you're coming
on the podcast. Ye and if anyone had any questions,
ask us anything. Okay, right, So, favorite most special memory
from the show with one another.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I think our relationship on the show was a constant.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
It was never a question.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
And I think that's what I really love about our
friendship is that it's a friendship that we could say
something in a type of way and we know that
there's zero malicious intent behind it. It could have been
maybe a way we didn't articulate ourselves the best.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Yeah, like something like that.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
It's like I don't ever have to question, oh, it's
Karina going to be mad at me, because no, she's not.
Because we know each other we know we'd never mean
anything in another way, and I find like our relationship
is very effortless.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
In that way.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
I don't we don't have to explain ourselves over and
over again, like you know, some friendships you do have
to do that, which because everyone's personalities are different.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Totally, and she'sapping friendships or one sided friendships. But like
you know, if I don't respond for a couple of days,
that you're not going to take it. Yeah, absolutely not
like that. I'm just terrible at that kind of thing.
But it doesn't mean I don't love you any less
or that kind of thing. But I think also we yeah,
just really resonated with one another because we're so similar

(49:13):
and we have similar personality traits, whereas we know we're
not going to offend one another or be quick to judge.
We're not judgmental characters at all.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
And I think as well, when we went through, like
when you were going through your hard times with Paul,
especially like as it was happening one after the other,
that was when I like we were really close because
your pain felt like my pain, and when I could
see like everything like what you were experiencing, I was like,
this is awful, and I just wanted to be there

(49:44):
for you so much because it just was such a
bad time for you.

Speaker 1 (49:47):
It was shit. And you know what's so crazy us
for We're like inseparable, you, Jeff, Paul, and myself. And
I was like on a high. I was like, this
is amazing. This is such a great experience for me personally,
and then a relationship on top of that, and then
a couple relationship, Like I was thinking about the future.

(50:07):
I was like getting excited for post experiment and that
was like at the very beginning, and I remember it
just gradually got worse and worse, and I was having
to ask both of you for your advice. I mean,
that is this normal? Is this normal behavior? Like I
can't and you, but I can't believe all this stuff
is fucking happening to you.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
I really couldn't.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
I think it's hard because like Paul isn't a bad person, no,
but good people can do bad things, yeah, and stuff
up and like that is part of life. But I
think sometimes when they are consecutive, it is a little
bit it's hard to understand. Yeah, but yeah, look I
think that he definitely fumbled. It was, yeah, fumbled and
I think he definitely was a big learning curve. Yeah, him,

(50:47):
totally big learning curve for all of us everyone. But
you know when you just get in that real like
like love bubble and you are like hopeful about the
future and optimistic and like you get giddy and excited,
That's how I was feeling. And then it just I know, yeah,
it was really tough, but I'm so grateful that I
had both you and Jeff and the advice. And I remember,

(51:08):
like the difference between ten years because just what ten
years older than Paul, right, yeah, he's forty.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
So thirty one this year got nine years. Yeah, but
oh my god, I don't like to talk about the
age difference, but my goodness, the age difference was impeccable,
like so different. And I would always be like, why
can't you just be like Jeff, like knock some sense
into him Jeff kind of thing. Yeah, but that's okay,
just not my human wish him all the best.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
A really interesting question was how do we remain confident?

Speaker 3 (51:40):
I think for me, remaining confident is always progressing in
some way. I think that when you're not feeling confident,
you become more stagnant, like you know, you're not motivated
so that you eat bad so that you don't work
out the next day. So it's like a snowball effect.
When I'm not feeling confident, I'm like, how can I
make myself feel good in this moment right now? What

(52:00):
can I do right now to make me feel good?
And it's generally going for a walk, making myself something nourishing,
like what would a healthy, happy version of me do
right now?

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:12):
And then I'm like, this is what I would do.
But look, we all go through those times. Hormones are
a big part of totally. The week before my period,
I'm like, what's wrong with me?

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Am I depressed?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
And then all of a sudden I get my period
and I'm like, oh that's fine.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Fine. Yeah, You're like, well that's why absolutely.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
But I think, yeah, finding something right then and there
that you can change, because I think a lot of
things that we focus on are things that we can't
change right then in that moment, like as sorry, Like
it's like when you say to yourself, this is why
I did the healthy habits. Yeah, I'll be happy when
I lost ten kilos. That's when I'll be happy.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
It's like, well, the process of losing ten kilos is
going to be your life, Like, it's the healthy habits
that you in.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
It's not short term. Eight should be something to implement
for long.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Term, that's it.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Yeah, So that's why I'm trying to focus on the
today and not always the end goals or the process.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
I think also being around good energy, so being around
good people and surrounding yourself with like minded people that
you want to like, where you see a future with,
because that can implement healthy habits and confidence. Like if
you're around a girl that constantly is belittering her self

(53:28):
for always talking about her body weight and I need
to get this skinny, Oh I'm fat. I don't know
at all. This negativity for me personally, I'm like, that's
getting inside my head and it's not making me feel
good mentally at all. So I need to abolish that
and get that out of my mindset and change my
environment to speak better words and be around people that

(53:52):
maybe speak better words. Like I know we always slip
up and we're our biggest critiques, but I think for me,
confidence is also who I surround myself.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Oh, definitely, where someone is constantly negative, it you do
really feel that. But yeah, and like you know, your
friends are going to go through bad times, you might
have negative conversations, totally, as long as I think the
biggest like the biggest teller is after you've seen a friend,
how do you feel after that? If every single time
that you leave you feel heavy and exhausted, Yeah, that's
probably a friendship you should kind of back away from.

(54:23):
And even like I've had to say in the past,
like I'm sorry, but these conversations, I just can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
We're just going around in circles. It's bringing me down.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yes, yes, And then you know a good friend will go, oh,
I'm really I made you feel like that. You know,
you have a discussion about it. Yeah, they get angry.
It's like they weren't your friend.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
No, they're on the same page. And why would you
want to be around that type of energy? Yeah? Love that.
Would you both ever consider doing Amazing Race another reality show?

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Yeah, well that was all the talk about us doing
the block and I thought maybe I've.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Read that, I've read that in in an article.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Yeah, I don't know who made that up, but it
was definitely a made up comment that just and they
went really ran with it.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You could manifest into existence you and Jeff.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
That would be perfect, That would be really fun. I
feel like, imagine if we broke up on the block. Oh,
I didn't break up in maps, but we had to fight,
and you know what you could you can see white
couples go through stresses and that sort of thing totally,
and I would be useless, Like I know what looks good,
and I can paint a wall, but don't get me
to bang anything. Like I'm a a girly girl when

(55:31):
it comes down off weights. But like, if I have
to do something that's too strenuous.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
You'll leave that to Jeff and you'll do the interior design.
You can move all the furniture around or tell him
to move everything around and product placement. I definitely would
do another reality show. I said this multiple times. Yeah,
probably not a dating show, just because mentally and also
I'm good in that sector. But I did love the experience,

(55:55):
the experience and what came during the filming. I loved
all that and the friendships of course. But yeah, I
think amazing race would be sick.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
I think it would be really.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Yeah, really cool. One last question, if you could have
done anything differently on the show, what would you have done?

Speaker 3 (56:09):
I think for me, I held every like in the
at the dinner parties and the retreat and how heavy
I felt and how.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
It really did affect me for weeks after that.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I remember I even said throughout the experiment to Jeff,
like I think I want to leave, And I was saying, like,
I think I want to leave.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
They showed that Actually.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
No they didn't, because I had a massive meltdown at
the retreat and I remember I slept for like five hours. Yes,
on the second day, I slept for five hours during
the day. I was so exhausted and I was just
like that was a bad few days for me, the
couple's retreat, and I actually had a melt down and
I just was so fed up and with everything and

(56:53):
what was going on and my relationship with Pauln. I
just broke down. I was like, I want to go home.
I want to see my family. And I think that
was in September where I was actually going to go
home for the weekend where production didn't really allow us
to do that, but I said I need to go home.
I remember speaking to my mum. But flying to Perth
was so far and so expensive because it was only

(57:13):
a few days out of me wanting to go, but
then we had home visits like a week later or
two weeks later, so I just like held myself. Yeah,
I remember that. Sorry, keep going.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
No, No, that's all right.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
I just think that I wish I backed myself a
little bit more. Yeah, and you know, having to explain
yourself over and over again in certain situations, like I
just wish I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Which I just said what I thought, yeah, and left
it at that.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
Yeah, but that's what when you speak about we learn
a lot from this and how you said, like you
don't mind confrontation as much. Yeah, same, I think that
now it's not even confrontation. It's speaking about how you feel. Yeah,
say how you feel and not feeling guilty. Everyone else
doesn't give a shit. Everyone else says exactly how they
feel in life, and I'm sitting there trying to accommodate everyone. Yeah,

(57:57):
sure they feel happy, and I'm like, but I'm not
saying what I feel. Yes, And I think that was
It's a long time coming for me. But right now,
like I don't try and beat around the bush. I
am very direct, and I'm like, no, this is how
I feel And just because I'm saying that doesn't mean
I don't care. Yeah, it's just I feel like I
deserve to say what I feel as much as you do.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Wow, So I think.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
And you learn to build on that during the experience,
right and from your experience.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Massively so good.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
And you know, I aspire to be like that as well,
because you and I a very similar big empathpath. Yeah,
can't even pronounce the word, but yeah, I think we
can resonate in so many ways in that sense. But
I'm so yeah, I aspire to do that because I
need to be more like that because then we hold
it for so long, for weeks, two months, and then
we think about it and big overthinkers and no, yes,

(58:45):
cut it off, say goodbye, that's it, and onto the.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Next that's it. Definitely yay.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Well, they were really nice questions.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
It's quite nice questions some viewers, I know, you get
some crazy ones.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
I had someone recently say to me you were very
sweet on the show, but thank god for makeup, And
I said, I thought to myself, thank you for.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
That backhanded compliment.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Like it's so many.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Actually that responded back to them. I was like, thank
you and I love it. Yes, thank you, thank God
for makeup.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
I forget what I said, but I just yeah, it's
wild that people would comments and some of the.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Times, oh, I get some guys said to some person said,
oh you need a nose job. Thanks, just stating the obvious. Mate,
appreciate it, like, thank you so much. When people say
such nasty comments, and I and I am in that.
I'm in that head frame to fight back and arc up,
which I normally just try not to. I say, thanks

(59:40):
so much. I'll pray for you. Yeah, that's what I say.
I'll pray for you because it's just so.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
It's not even worth it. You look at the people
saying it, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
Boy bye or girl bye. Wild. But the rollercoaster of
Maths was so much fun doing it with you.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Thank you, and I had a great time. And I'm
so grateful for our friends.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
I'm so grateful for our friendship and everything that's come
out of it. And I look forward to the future
and remaining really close. And I just want to say
thank you so much for coming on the podcast, so
taking the time.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Thank you for having me. I hope to come back
at some point. Yes, and I have other exciting store.
Not that I had very exciting news just now, but
maybe one day when I do.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I love you and Jeff and I can't wait to
have what you guys have, and I'm sure many people
can say the same thing because it's so real and
so raw, and that's what we're all about on this podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
Thank you, babe, so thank you for sharing your story
with me. Thanks guys,