September 16, 2025 • 26 mins
After a little hiatus while Carina enjoyed a post-Married At First Sight summer in America, she's back in the studio with Jacob and ready to spill all about the men she met in the states!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey Karna, you're back from the wait where did you
go again?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Sorry? I forgot to fish brain UK.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
We are back from our hiatus. It's been a long wait, Jacob.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But we had a massive fight. She went to America.
Now we broke up, Yeah, and it was over something
really silly.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And we've made up.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We've made up. We've never had ending. Well, a lot
of people thought that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It was actually ending, and then I was like, no,
Quarina's just gone to America and I'm staying in her apartment.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I've fled the country. I've fled the country. Jacob's been
in the apartment looking after Mickey the cat, the apartment cat,
and Karina's has been traveling the whole world, well all
of America, and really just living her best single life.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So do you want to tell us about that guy
that's all over your TikTok? The whole world was freaking out,
and I was like, I actually got messages from a
few clients being like, who's Queen of Seeing? And I'm like,
you know what, I actually don't know. I don't know
what's happening because she's just out there living. But it
was kind of hot you're not actually single, right, do
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you want to tell everyone who you're dating?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
No one can know American American boy America. As soon
as I got into La arrived from Sydney to Lax,
I was like singing the Miley Cyrus in the USA?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Did you get any wild? Wait?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
No, hold on, let's bring it back to the guy,
the boy, the American boy.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So no one knows his name. And I've had so
many people message me and comment on those tiktoks that
I made about who this mystery America?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
He is so handsome, so handsome. I was dropped. I
haven't told anyone, so maybe keep.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Him on the down they really I was going to
dis close it here on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Keep call him mister, mister cowboy, mister cowboy.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
That was insane, how random I met him? Okay, first
of all, have you seen The Hunting Wives on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm obsessed with that TV show.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I binge watched it with my girlfriend Brook who lives
in America. In America, we binge watched this TV show
based in Texas and anyway, long story short, I was
living that life in Oklahoma. The most Southern American Jesus,
like the most Southern state in America. I flew over
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to LA then went straight to Oklahoma to stay with Brook,
my girlfriend that I've known for ten years. Her sister
is actually marrying a big NFL player.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, I know, I think you mentioned that to me.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm like, they met on Ray years ago, and I'm like,
Ray is not working, He's not working for me, an
NFL player on RAYA. But I'm like, what the hell? Anyway,
they're engaged. They getting married. I've got their wedding next
year in Nashville. Lane Johnson is marrying my good friend Kelsey,
and that's where I stayed.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Travis Kelce like the Taylor Swift person. Wait, is that
that's fal?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I know.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You don't know much about NFL, whereas it's the biggest.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Sport in NL. Like the guys that were was I
supposed to say that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I dropping bombshells left right and.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Said, honestly, can we just say we've been with n
r L NFL. I don't know the different fl or
is that play with balls.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Were jumping?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Okay, we have to bring that story up after this
America trip, because as soon as I got back, I
took you out for dinner and then we ended up
partying with cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The cowboy Wait, wait should we say that? Are we
going to get like something?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They were upsessed who we were.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I was like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Anyway, anyway, let's go back to a cowboy about Oklahoma,
and we partied with the Cowboys NRL team.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Maybe we should end up with cowboys.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I'm in my cowboy era, so wild, I'm obsessed, a
collaboration with schemes and done it. He's done his own
like capsule, he's doing his own clothing brand. He's a cowboy.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Why am I today?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Quavo his whole new album is based on being a cowboy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I'm like, what, Okay, he's gone from rap to.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
More like and you're a cowgirl.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, I'm a cowgirl.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I was really feeding my cowgirl era in America.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I was obsessed. But it's like a whole different level
over there.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
It's like the real cow Anyway, going back to the
Hunting Wives, we went, so I flew into Oklahoma. We
did the fourth of July at Lane's college friend who
plays for the Chiefs where Travis Kelcey that's the Taylor
Swift fiance. Now, oh my god, she's engaged plays at
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the club, so we were like, oh, he might be there,
he might be there celebrating forth of July, but no,
unfortunately he wasn't. But a few of the teammates were
there from the Chiefs, which is a really big club
in Kansas City, and it was great and they really
wanted to show me around after the Fourth of July,
so they took me to a bar and it was
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like the most southern bar you could ever imagine, and
it was in The Hunting Wives. They filmed scenes on
that TV show at Cowboys, because when we're watching it,
I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
My god, Brooke, that's the bar we were at.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And you know, they had the electronic ball there, we
did line dancing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
We literally had like so many drinks and they were
five dollars a drink.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
They were so cheap because it was like in the
middle of nowhere, Oklahoma is there's not a lot going
on right, a lot of fast food joints, and we
tried lots of fast food.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And crumble cookies and swig.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Anyway, it's all over my TikTok, So everyone go check
my tiktoks out because you'll be able to see the videos.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I met this guy. But we were about to
leave the bar. We were done.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
So I went with Kelsey Brooke and their mum and
myself and yeah, we were just chilling having drinks, doing
all that thing, all that stuff, and we were about
to leave. I'm not kidding you. I saw this handsome man.
I don't know what gets into me when I go
to America. I just get the biggest confidence boost. I
think it's the accent. And I was like a different person,
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and I really just I went up to him.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I went up to him, and I was like, you
were very handsome. And then every day I was like,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I'm not kidding here the fuck?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And then I was like what, like ask him what
does he do? Where is he from? Like, oh my god,
you are such a good looking person. Do you you
do modeling? Why here in Oklahoma? Why not in New
York or in La? Anyway, long story short, he ended
up buying us some drinks. We stayed longer, and it
was so random. He thought we were on like a
bachelorette party because we were all dressed up in our
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like southern.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Country girl but had cowboy hat on cowboy hat and.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
My cowboy boat Kelsey has all of those, like all
the belts, the accessories, because she's a real southern girl,
and I went all out. I was like, this is
like a costume party for me. Anyway, long story short,
we exchanged information. He is one of the most handsome
men I've ever laid eyes on. Everything was perfect about him,
and I really thought he was a big time like model,
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someone famous. No, he's just a country boy and no
social media Jacob nothing, that is nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Can I just say that is the biggest turn on
when a guy doesn't have social media.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I was praising him left right and center and I
was like, sorry, what.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I was like, why are you not modeling? I was
like why.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Anyway, we ended up hanging out. He took me out
on dates like he was so lovely and yeah, we
just had like a little short term fling and he
wants to come.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
To Australia, so's it gonna come.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's going to come, And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. I was like, he does not stop messaging.
He's so lovely and do you want to know his name?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Okay, tell me his name?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Shannon, Shannon the Cowboy and no social.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Media, so no one even knows, like no one can
find you trust anything.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
He works in a field every day on a tractor,
and he is just so like such a Southern boy,
and his accent is so sexy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He's just very sweet and he was like a.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Really that it kind of makes guys like guys that
do that, It makes them almost mysterious.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Really makes me more attractive. It's attracted to it. Their lives,
but like no one really knows what they do. We
kind of like they're not even here.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, so it was to be continued.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I mean, I feel like right now I'm starting to
dabble in the dating pool again because I was very
cautious coming off Maths and still now a bit protective
and my guards up because I'm still healing.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm scared. I've got a few trust issues, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, And so I was really just in my own
feels and error. But then I think, you know, doing
America going away for seven weeks, I did party a lot,
and I think it's now you were stop.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It was it was great.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I felt like when we got when you got back.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Kept partying and we still party.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So is this the guy that you're still texting like
the Cowboys? He there?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Do you think he's the one?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, no, because I am mess doing other people, because
I've met so people.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I don't know. I think it's the accent. I'm not sure,
but no, I did meet someone else. He believe it
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
He's like every he is perfect in every way on paper.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He plays in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I'm definitely not disclosing his name because I I.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Can't disclose that I want to make his.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
For I actually yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I'll tell you what team he plays for and how
the date went and how it came about.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So I was obviously in New York.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
He plays with the New York Jets, and he has
been playing with them for quite some time. That's been
his main club. And I don't know what position he plays,
but anyway.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's like one of the first questions you asked, what position?
What position do you for?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
He's very in touch with like his fashion. So he
does a lot of New York Fashion Week, which I'm
obsessed with. So and you know his his Yeah, he's
a very good look at, a look at. But he's
also a real nice, like gentleman you know, with NFL
players and athletes, you just.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Don't know what way it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And you know, I didn't want like I want to
be one and done in courtard kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And that's exactly how it was going. Courted.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Do you want to know the definition of court What
is it? Wait?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I kind of like forgot.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
It's when it's when the opposite have to work exactly
like caught you and make you feel special and yes,
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Like, oh, yeah, you came with me on my last
day anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Anyway, So how it happened.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I actually met this guy like years ago when I
was living in New York and we were messaging back
and forth and that kind of thing. We always just
kept in touch back like on and off and then
didn't hear each other.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But then we matched on RAYA.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because like is kind of dead yeah anyway, but.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I was anyway, So we matched on ray we started
talking again. I was like, Oh, I'm actually going to
be in America very soon. Long story short. He was
going into training camp, which is like fifteen hour days,
seven days a week. He's so focused and committed and
it was really hard to organize a time to catch
up and then he was traveling to a different state
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to do his like camps he was doing he does
like foundation charity camps and stuff. So anyway, we re
lined it up. When I was in New York from
traveling to the Hampton's back and forth, he was in
town and basically he lives in Jersey, which is on
the other side of the Main River, and I was
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staying in Manhattan. So one Saturday night he organized to
get a driver to come pick me up, and he
organized the restaurant, and then while I was on my
way there, he to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was like, I'm going to pre order what would
you like to eat?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And I was like, oh, I'm happy with anything, Like
I'm not fussy at all. I mean, I am really
fussy because I want Cavia.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I was like, Allie anything.
I was like, no, what, Like, I don't mind you
order for me? Oh my god. He took the initiative
I'm not kidding you once.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Once the driver dropped me off to the restaurant, he
was like, I'm in the corner when you arrive, I'm
sitting in the corner.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I was like, okay, cool. And then I arrived.
I tell the waitress. I'm like, yeah, I'm here to
meet blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
She brings me downstairs. I'm like, what is this place?
I didn't even look up. I was like what the hell.
Turns out it was like, oh my gosh, it was gorgeous,
a beautiful steakhouse. And it was a cigar bar downstairs
as well. It was it was sunny. So I walked
down the stairs. It was like I felt like I
was in a movie Loki. I'm not gonna lie. This
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is like my dream. So yeah, high expectations, right. Anyway,
So I turned the corner. I look at him, and
I see him there like while I was walking down
the stairs. Turn right and he was there in the corner,
sitting down. The food literally just had arrived, he said.
And I'm not kidding you. There was fish for me,
and he had steak. Then we had a caesar salad
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and then some fries.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
What else did we have?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
He had a drink waiting for me and I was
on the wines and then he wasn't drinking because like
it hit training camp, and I was like, come on,
just you know.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Just drink, just drink for me just have one drink.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
But he had a cigar in his hand and he
looked so boogie, so fancy. I was like, what, I'm like,
who is his bresent? And it was so nice to
like properly meet him, hang out with him, spend time
with him, get to know him. And he ended up
drinking a few glasses of wine, which was so lovely.
I convinced him well and yeah, I just thought that
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was a really nice evening. And then once we had
wrapped up, we walked upstairs. The valet driver handed him
his keys, got in this black rolls Royce.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
There was like all sprinkles of like I.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Don't even know what they called the lighting things above
us at the stars, the stars they call them. And
he was like holding my hand while he was driving,
and his hand was like in my thigh.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like,
this is so lovely.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And then we did go back to his and Sawyer's apartment.
It was so cool, like very artsy, creative, real nice guy,
very big gentleman, and I ended up sleeping over.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
We did not do anything. I wasn't going to give
it up at all.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Good girl, good girl, way.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Way at least a second day, and i'mkidding. I was
definitely not going to give it up. But it was
really nice. He goes, I had such a lovely evening tonight,
and I was like same. Anyway, we're still talking here.
The season started, I think the season started, but he goes,
now I have an excuse to come to Australian and
I was like, yeah, you do. But he's really sweet,
he's a good age, but I'm going to take it slow.
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Obviously Sydney's home right now, but who knows what could happen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But yeah, that was that funny story.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We like it sounds like you had fun. It was,
and all of these guys were kind of like, you.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Know, you're just living I was living my life.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You have to do like you had.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You had a bit of a break there where you
kind of didn't want to date and you were skinned
dating and you didn't want to even like talk talk
to a guy or look at a guy.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And sometimes you still like that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
The other day at the beach, you said, oh my god,
that guy is so hot and I wanted to go
up to him and we actually had a bit of
a tackle on there.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I'm very protective.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I like, you know everyone, not everyone. A lot of
people are asking are you dating? Who's the person you know?
So I'm quite cautious and I don't want to just
scene out with multiple guys because people get the wrong
idea about me and I'm not that girl. So I
honestly love being in my own little home, my own bubble,
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especially coming off such a big reality show, and I'm
still finding my way.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
I'm very lost and I'm very like fragile right now
in terms of like.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Just yeah, bit confused, and I feel like you're quite similar.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Feel like something the air or the water that we're drinking,
I don't know is at that time of year. So yeah,
I'm very cautious, but I think I am ready, but
I'm not going to settle. So I've got very high expectations.
The only way I'm going to find my person is
to date. And that's okay because I always have thought
it's like a burden or it's inappropriate, and you know
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that it's not being responsible. And I've always seen dating
as I can negative because my parents have only dated
that that one person and being together like your parents
for a very long period of time, whereas unfortunately that's
not the world we.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Live in now.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
So I have to just like keep reminding myself that
it's okay to go on dates and every time though
I know, I think we put it in our own
heads at seeing dating.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You just kind of like go out with someone and
that's like, yeah, I did that. Yeah, Like yeah, obviously
I was looking after the car in Bondai in your.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
How was it living in the Eastern Suburbs?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
To be honest, did you have the best time? It
was like cool for like.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Two weeks and then I just I think I got
over it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, I'm like, where are the wogs at? Yeah? Where
are the wogs are?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm like I miss I missed going and like I
missed my family. I feel like in that time I
actually built a better relationship with mom and dad and
like I actually missed them and like I would go
home on like a random Thursday. It's like Dad can
cook a barbecue and like I could eat a home
with them, and it was it was kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Didn't you meet an American book? Jacob an American boy Australia.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He was an American actor as hot as like in
a movie that's coming out next year, which is wild. Actually,
I don't want to say it embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Anyway, let's move on from that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, I went on like a few dates, so I like,
I hanged out with him. I feel like, oh no,
I'm just like you. I'm feeling you know, like honestly
after John. Obviously that didn't work out, and John one
of my friends. I actually haven't spoken to him in
a few weeks. But you know, I'm like, why am
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I holding myself back on dating? Like I should be
out here and dating people. You know, I'm not going
to settle until I find the right one. So I've
been like meeting different types of people. I'm meeting different
kind of personalities. I'm going for people that I normally
wouldn't go for. So yeah, I did that. I did.
I kind of just, yeah, wanted to test myself on
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how much I can connect with someone and if people
do want the same things. Look, there was one guy
that told me he loved me after the first date,
and I was like, WHOA, that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, I was like, absolutely fucking not.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, like, you're you're in love with me after maybe
about two hours at dinner. Yeah, no, sorry, so yeah,
I had to. Yeah, I was like, what the hell?
So I definitely cut him off.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And then I.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Had so how many guys slept in my bed? That's
what I want to know?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Only one, only one did, and I did.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, you washed as soon as I got back up.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But there was no honestly, there was no really funny
business happening there.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
It was very it was very kind.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You're similar to me, You don't just know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I didn't give it up. No, I did not give
it up at all. But yeah, I definitely had my fun. Like,
I definitely had fun. And yeah, and then like I
kind of.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I missed your birthday. You celebrated your birthday with all
your friends, and.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
My friends went to Bar Tiger. But it was so
nice and we just had a little lunch, we went out.
I feel like I was just partying for the last
seven weeks, which is really not like me because I
didn't party, I didn't go out. I don't do any
of that. So like it was kind of nice to
kind of let my hair down and.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I influenced you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, you were kind of.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Honestly, summer in America was the best summer I've ever done.
And I'm so grateful and glad I did that because
I networked, I you know, organized some interviews, some meetings.
I met so many new people. So yeah, for me,
it was amazing as well as I let my hair
down a little bit, really enjoyed the city life New York.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
LA.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Tried different states that I wouldn't normally gravitate towards, and
it was so crazy. Sorry, I just full on cut you.
But when I was running in Hudson Yards, which is
a new suburb that they just built in New York,
I was doing my morning run and I stopped for photos.
I was like, oh my god, am I really here? Like,
no matter how many times I visit New York, it
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will never be.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, it's always going to be in incredible and like
the best vibrance feeling ever. And I stopped and then
a group of family came up to me. They're like,
are you Karina from Married at First Sight? And I
was like, oh my god, yeah, I'm on the other
side of the What do you know how many people
actually watched that show from all different countries. And I
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remember I went to share Margo, which is chees Margo.
I kind of even pronounced it a members only club.
There's so many members only clubs in New York. It's wild.
And I was there with a friend having dinner and
we're at the bar and girls next to us were like,
we recognize you. I got recognized so much, and I
was like, oh my god, this is wild, because you know,
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I'm a small pond in a small fish in a
big pond over there. But yeah, the summer was incredible
for me. And that's what they do. They go on break,
they go to Hampton's every weekend. They leave the city
because it's so hot. People take time off work. So
I really just enjoyed that, and I think it kind
of reflected on you here and see too.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I feel like, you know, I was like, I got
seven weeks in BONDI I'm not usually here. I'm just
going to let my hair down, let your be down,
let down, just go with the flow. So yeah, I
did that on and yeah I'm speaking to someone at
the moment, but like just very lightly like what three dates,
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But it's just kind of like I'm actually waiting for
someone to jump, like I'm with Jacob.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I feel like you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But also can I say something.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, you're going through this whole transitional period of social media,
like the whole you know, I would go on your
Instagram and I might, wait, you've gotten all your business
pages out of your bio. What's going on? Are you transition?
What are you coming up with like a new business idea?
What's going on in your life?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I was that kind of like happening too, But yeah,
I I don't know. I feel like I'm entering this
new chapter in life where I feel like I don't
have to share every bit of myself. Yeah, I feel
like the pressure of sharing every bit of yourself is
a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I don't know how people do it. I feel like
this is.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A really big topic for me, and I've been going
through a lot and I need to get into it properly.
But with business and life and social media and everything,
it's it's been I think one of the most wildest
journeys I've been on, and it's something that I need
to get into properly.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So I'm going to do that in the next episode.
But yeah, it's actually.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Been crazy, and I'm still going through the motions and
still figuring it out and still kind of yeah, working
what I want to do out and business changes too,
is scary, and that's something I'm going to also touch on.
And I think the biggest thing is me wanting to
kind of like go ghosts from the world.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, I feel you on that one.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah you can't, but I mean I can't cannot.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Let's dive into this next episode. Yeah, and the next
one will be more serious and a lot of people
can resonate towards it because they I feel like they,
you know, are going through similar things. Yeah, especially your
age category, and you know, working in your craft and
industry for fifteen years, you're maybe wanting something fresh for
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the next fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's kind of exciting. But I'll share that with you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, all right, Well until next episode.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Stay chaotic, guys, Take chaotic because we are.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Because we definitely are. Goodbye.
Hey, how are you?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hey Karna, you're back from the wait where did you
go again?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Sorry? I forgot to fish brain UK.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
We are back from our hiatus. It's been a long wait, Jacob.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But we had a massive fight. She went to America.
Now we broke up, Yeah, and it was over something
really silly.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
And we've made up.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
We've made up. We've never had ending. Well, a lot
of people thought that.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
It was actually ending, and then I was like, no,
Quarina's just gone to America and I'm staying in her apartment.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I've fled the country. I've fled the country. Jacob's been
in the apartment looking after Mickey the cat, the apartment cat,
and Karina's has been traveling the whole world, well all
of America, and really just living her best single life.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So do you want to tell us about that guy
that's all over your TikTok? The whole world was freaking out,
and I was like, I actually got messages from a
few clients being like, who's Queen of Seeing? And I'm like,
you know what, I actually don't know. I don't know
what's happening because she's just out there living. But it
was kind of hot you're not actually single, right, do
(01:21):
you want to tell everyone who you're dating?
Speaker 4 (01:24):
No one can know American American boy America. As soon
as I got into La arrived from Sydney to Lax,
I was like singing the Miley Cyrus in the USA?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Did you get any wild? Wait?
Speaker 2 (01:39):
No, hold on, let's bring it back to the guy,
the boy, the American boy.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
So no one knows his name. And I've had so
many people message me and comment on those tiktoks that
I made about who this mystery America?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
He is so handsome, so handsome. I was dropped. I
haven't told anyone, so maybe keep.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Him on the down they really I was going to
dis close it here on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Keep call him mister, mister cowboy, mister cowboy.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
That was insane, how random I met him? Okay, first
of all, have you seen The Hunting Wives on Netflix.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I'm obsessed with that TV show.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I binge watched it with my girlfriend Brook who lives
in America. In America, we binge watched this TV show
based in Texas and anyway, long story short, I was
living that life in Oklahoma. The most Southern American Jesus,
like the most Southern state in America. I flew over
(02:42):
to LA then went straight to Oklahoma to stay with Brook,
my girlfriend that I've known for ten years. Her sister
is actually marrying a big NFL player.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, I know, I think you mentioned that to me.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I'm like, they met on Ray years ago, and I'm like,
Ray is not working, He's not working for me, an
NFL player on RAYA. But I'm like, what the hell? Anyway,
they're engaged. They getting married. I've got their wedding next
year in Nashville. Lane Johnson is marrying my good friend Kelsey,
and that's where I stayed.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Travis Kelce like the Taylor Swift person. Wait, is that
that's fal?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I know.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
You don't know much about NFL, whereas it's the biggest.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Sport in NL. Like the guys that were was I
supposed to say that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I dropping bombshells left right and.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Said, honestly, can we just say we've been with n
r L NFL. I don't know the different fl or
is that play with balls.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Were jumping?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Okay, we have to bring that story up after this
America trip, because as soon as I got back, I
took you out for dinner and then we ended up
partying with cowboys.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
The cowboy Wait, wait should we say that? Are we
going to get like something?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
They were upsessed who we were.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I was like, oh my god, oh my god.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Anyway, anyway, let's go back to a cowboy about Oklahoma,
and we partied with the Cowboys NRL team.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Maybe we should end up with cowboys.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
I'm in my cowboy era, so wild, I'm obsessed, a
collaboration with schemes and done it. He's done his own
like capsule, he's doing his own clothing brand. He's a cowboy.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Why am I today?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Quavo his whole new album is based on being a cowboy.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
I'm like, what, Okay, he's gone from rap to.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
More like and you're a cowgirl.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, I'm a cowgirl.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
I was really feeding my cowgirl era in America.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I was obsessed. But it's like a whole different level
over there.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
It's like the real cow Anyway, going back to the
Hunting Wives, we went, so I flew into Oklahoma. We
did the fourth of July at Lane's college friend who
plays for the Chiefs where Travis Kelcey that's the Taylor
Swift fiance. Now, oh my god, she's engaged plays at
(05:11):
the club, so we were like, oh, he might be there,
he might be there celebrating forth of July, but no,
unfortunately he wasn't. But a few of the teammates were
there from the Chiefs, which is a really big club
in Kansas City, and it was great and they really
wanted to show me around after the Fourth of July,
so they took me to a bar and it was
(05:33):
like the most southern bar you could ever imagine, and
it was in The Hunting Wives. They filmed scenes on
that TV show at Cowboys, because when we're watching it,
I was like, oh.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
My god, Brooke, that's the bar we were at.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
And you know, they had the electronic ball there, we
did line dancing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
We literally had like so many drinks and they were
five dollars a drink.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
They were so cheap because it was like in the
middle of nowhere, Oklahoma is there's not a lot going
on right, a lot of fast food joints, and we
tried lots of fast food.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And crumble cookies and swig.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Anyway, it's all over my TikTok, So everyone go check
my tiktoks out because you'll be able to see the videos.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And I met this guy. But we were about to
leave the bar. We were done.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
So I went with Kelsey Brooke and their mum and
myself and yeah, we were just chilling having drinks, doing
all that thing, all that stuff, and we were about
to leave. I'm not kidding you. I saw this handsome man.
I don't know what gets into me when I go
to America. I just get the biggest confidence boost. I
think it's the accent. And I was like a different person,
(06:41):
and I really just I went up to him.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I went up to him, and I was like, you
were very handsome. And then every day I was like,
what's going on?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
And I'm not kidding here the fuck?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And then I was like what, like ask him what
does he do? Where is he from? Like, oh my god,
you are such a good looking person. Do you you
do modeling? Why here in Oklahoma? Why not in New
York or in La? Anyway, long story short, he ended
up buying us some drinks. We stayed longer, and it
was so random. He thought we were on like a
bachelorette party because we were all dressed up in our
(07:14):
like southern.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Country girl but had cowboy hat on cowboy hat and.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
My cowboy boat Kelsey has all of those, like all
the belts, the accessories, because she's a real southern girl,
and I went all out. I was like, this is
like a costume party for me. Anyway, long story short,
we exchanged information. He is one of the most handsome
men I've ever laid eyes on. Everything was perfect about him,
and I really thought he was a big time like model,
(07:41):
someone famous. No, he's just a country boy and no
social media Jacob nothing, that is nothing.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Can I just say that is the biggest turn on
when a guy doesn't have social media.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I was praising him left right and center and I
was like, sorry, what.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I was like, why are you not modeling? I was
like why.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Anyway, we ended up hanging out. He took me out
on dates like he was so lovely and yeah, we
just had like a little short term fling and he
wants to come.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
To Australia, so's it gonna come.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
He's going to come, And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa. I was like, he does not stop messaging.
He's so lovely and do you want to know his name?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Okay, tell me his name?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Shannon, Shannon the Cowboy and no social.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Media, so no one even knows, like no one can
find you trust anything.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
He works in a field every day on a tractor,
and he is just so like such a Southern boy,
and his accent is so sexy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
He's just very sweet and he was like a.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Really that it kind of makes guys like guys that
do that, It makes them almost mysterious.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Really makes me more attractive. It's attracted to it. Their lives,
but like no one really knows what they do. We
kind of like they're not even here.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah, so it was to be continued.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I mean, I feel like right now I'm starting to
dabble in the dating pool again because I was very
cautious coming off Maths and still now a bit protective
and my guards up because I'm still healing.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
I'm scared. I've got a few trust issues, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, And so I was really just in my own
feels and error. But then I think, you know, doing
America going away for seven weeks, I did party a lot,
and I think it's now you were stop.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
It was it was great.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
I felt like when we got when you got back.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Yeah, we.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Kept partying and we still party.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
So is this the guy that you're still texting like
the Cowboys? He there?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Do you think he's the one?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Well, no, because I am mess doing other people, because
I've met so people.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
I don't know. I think it's the accent. I'm not sure,
but no, I did meet someone else. He believe it
or not.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
He's like every he is perfect in every way on paper.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He plays in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I'm definitely not disclosing his name because I I.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Can't disclose that I want to make his.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
For I actually yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I'll tell you what team he plays for and how
the date went and how it came about.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
So I was obviously in New York.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
He plays with the New York Jets, and he has
been playing with them for quite some time. That's been
his main club. And I don't know what position he plays,
but anyway.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
It's like one of the first questions you asked, what position?
What position do you for?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
He's very in touch with like his fashion. So he
does a lot of New York Fashion Week, which I'm
obsessed with. So and you know his his Yeah, he's
a very good look at, a look at. But he's
also a real nice, like gentleman you know, with NFL
players and athletes, you just.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Don't know what way it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
And you know, I didn't want like I want to
be one and done in courtard kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
And that's exactly how it was going. Courted.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Do you want to know the definition of court What
is it? Wait?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I kind of like forgot.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
It's when it's when the opposite have to work exactly
like caught you and make you feel special and yes,
I was.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Like, oh, yeah, you came with me on my last
day anywhere.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Anyway, So how it happened.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
I actually met this guy like years ago when I
was living in New York and we were messaging back
and forth and that kind of thing. We always just
kept in touch back like on and off and then
didn't hear each other.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
But then we matched on RAYA.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Because like is kind of dead yeah anyway, but.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I was anyway, So we matched on ray we started
talking again. I was like, Oh, I'm actually going to
be in America very soon. Long story short. He was
going into training camp, which is like fifteen hour days,
seven days a week. He's so focused and committed and
it was really hard to organize a time to catch
up and then he was traveling to a different state
(12:46):
to do his like camps he was doing he does
like foundation charity camps and stuff. So anyway, we re
lined it up. When I was in New York from
traveling to the Hampton's back and forth, he was in
town and basically he lives in Jersey, which is on
the other side of the Main River, and I was
(13:07):
staying in Manhattan. So one Saturday night he organized to
get a driver to come pick me up, and he
organized the restaurant, and then while I was on my
way there, he to the restaurant.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
He was like, I'm going to pre order what would
you like to eat?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
And I was like, oh, I'm happy with anything, Like
I'm not fussy at all. I mean, I am really
fussy because I want Cavia.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I was like, Allie anything.
I was like, no, what, Like, I don't mind you
order for me? Oh my god. He took the initiative
I'm not kidding you once.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Once the driver dropped me off to the restaurant, he
was like, I'm in the corner when you arrive, I'm
sitting in the corner.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
And I was like, okay, cool. And then I arrived.
I tell the waitress. I'm like, yeah, I'm here to
meet blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
She brings me downstairs. I'm like, what is this place?
I didn't even look up. I was like what the hell.
Turns out it was like, oh my gosh, it was gorgeous,
a beautiful steakhouse. And it was a cigar bar downstairs
as well. It was it was sunny. So I walked
down the stairs. It was like I felt like I
was in a movie Loki. I'm not gonna lie. This
(14:16):
is like my dream. So yeah, high expectations, right. Anyway,
So I turned the corner. I look at him, and
I see him there like while I was walking down
the stairs. Turn right and he was there in the corner,
sitting down. The food literally just had arrived, he said.
And I'm not kidding you. There was fish for me,
and he had steak. Then we had a caesar salad
(14:39):
and then some fries.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
What else did we have?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
He had a drink waiting for me and I was
on the wines and then he wasn't drinking because like
it hit training camp, and I was like, come on,
just you know.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Just drink, just drink for me just have one drink.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
But he had a cigar in his hand and he
looked so boogie, so fancy. I was like, what, I'm like,
who is his bresent? And it was so nice to
like properly meet him, hang out with him, spend time
with him, get to know him. And he ended up
drinking a few glasses of wine, which was so lovely.
I convinced him well and yeah, I just thought that
(15:14):
was a really nice evening. And then once we had
wrapped up, we walked upstairs. The valet driver handed him
his keys, got in this black rolls Royce.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
There was like all sprinkles of like I.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Don't even know what they called the lighting things above
us at the stars, the stars they call them. And
he was like holding my hand while he was driving,
and his hand was like in my thigh.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
And I was like, oh my gosh. I was like,
this is so lovely.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
And then we did go back to his and Sawyer's apartment.
It was so cool, like very artsy, creative, real nice guy,
very big gentleman, and I ended up sleeping over.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
We did not do anything. I wasn't going to give
it up at all.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Good girl, good girl, way.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Way at least a second day, and i'mkidding. I was
definitely not going to give it up. But it was
really nice. He goes, I had such a lovely evening tonight,
and I was like same. Anyway, we're still talking here.
The season started, I think the season started, but he goes,
now I have an excuse to come to Australian and
I was like, yeah, you do. But he's really sweet,
he's a good age, but I'm going to take it slow.
(16:29):
Obviously Sydney's home right now, but who knows what could happen.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
But yeah, that was that funny story.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
We like it sounds like you had fun. It was,
and all of these guys were kind of like, you.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Know, you're just living I was living my life.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
You have to do like you had.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
You had a bit of a break there where you
kind of didn't want to date and you were skinned
dating and you didn't want to even like talk talk
to a guy or look at a guy.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And sometimes you still like that.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
The other day at the beach, you said, oh my god,
that guy is so hot and I wanted to go
up to him and we actually had a bit of
a tackle on there.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
But I'm very protective.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
I like, you know everyone, not everyone. A lot of
people are asking are you dating? Who's the person you know?
So I'm quite cautious and I don't want to just
scene out with multiple guys because people get the wrong
idea about me and I'm not that girl. So I
honestly love being in my own little home, my own bubble,
(17:32):
especially coming off such a big reality show, and I'm
still finding my way.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
I'm very lost and I'm very like fragile right now
in terms of like.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Just yeah, bit confused, and I feel like you're quite similar.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Feel like something the air or the water that we're drinking,
I don't know is at that time of year. So yeah,
I'm very cautious, but I think I am ready, but
I'm not going to settle. So I've got very high expectations.
The only way I'm going to find my person is
to date. And that's okay because I always have thought
it's like a burden or it's inappropriate, and you know
(18:11):
that it's not being responsible. And I've always seen dating
as I can negative because my parents have only dated
that that one person and being together like your parents
for a very long period of time, whereas unfortunately that's
not the world we.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Live in now.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
So I have to just like keep reminding myself that
it's okay to go on dates and every time though
I know, I think we put it in our own
heads at seeing dating.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
You just kind of like go out with someone and
that's like, yeah, I did that. Yeah, Like yeah, obviously
I was looking after the car in Bondai in your.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
How was it living in the Eastern Suburbs?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
To be honest, did you have the best time? It
was like cool for like.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Two weeks and then I just I think I got
over it.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, I'm like, where are the wogs at? Yeah? Where
are the wogs are?
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm like I miss I missed going and like I
missed my family. I feel like in that time I
actually built a better relationship with mom and dad and
like I actually missed them and like I would go
home on like a random Thursday. It's like Dad can
cook a barbecue and like I could eat a home
with them, and it was it was kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Didn't you meet an American book? Jacob an American boy Australia.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
He was an American actor as hot as like in
a movie that's coming out next year, which is wild. Actually,
I don't want to say it embarrassing.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Anyway, let's move on from that.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, I went on like a few dates, so I like,
I hanged out with him. I feel like, oh no,
I'm just like you. I'm feeling you know, like honestly
after John. Obviously that didn't work out, and John one
of my friends. I actually haven't spoken to him in
a few weeks. But you know, I'm like, why am
(20:07):
I holding myself back on dating? Like I should be
out here and dating people. You know, I'm not going
to settle until I find the right one. So I've
been like meeting different types of people. I'm meeting different
kind of personalities. I'm going for people that I normally
wouldn't go for. So yeah, I did that. I did.
I kind of just, yeah, wanted to test myself on
(20:32):
how much I can connect with someone and if people
do want the same things. Look, there was one guy
that told me he loved me after the first date,
and I was like, WHOA, that's not cool.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, I was like, absolutely fucking not.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, like, you're you're in love with me after maybe
about two hours at dinner. Yeah, no, sorry, so yeah,
I had to. Yeah, I was like, what the hell?
So I definitely cut him off.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
And then I.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Had so how many guys slept in my bed? That's
what I want to know?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Only one, only one did, and I did.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, you washed as soon as I got back up.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But there was no honestly, there was no really funny
business happening there.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
It was very it was very kind.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
You're similar to me, You don't just know.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
I didn't give it up. No, I did not give
it up at all. But yeah, I definitely had my fun. Like,
I definitely had fun. And yeah, and then like I
kind of.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I missed your birthday. You celebrated your birthday with all
your friends, and.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
My friends went to Bar Tiger. But it was so
nice and we just had a little lunch, we went out.
I feel like I was just partying for the last
seven weeks, which is really not like me because I
didn't party, I didn't go out. I don't do any
of that. So like it was kind of nice to
kind of let my hair down and.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
I influenced you.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Yeah, you were kind of.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Honestly, summer in America was the best summer I've ever done.
And I'm so grateful and glad I did that because
I networked, I you know, organized some interviews, some meetings.
I met so many new people. So yeah, for me,
it was amazing as well as I let my hair
down a little bit, really enjoyed the city life New York.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
LA.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
Tried different states that I wouldn't normally gravitate towards, and
it was so crazy. Sorry, I just full on cut you.
But when I was running in Hudson Yards, which is
a new suburb that they just built in New York,
I was doing my morning run and I stopped for photos.
I was like, oh my god, am I really here? Like,
no matter how many times I visit New York, it
(22:42):
will never be.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
It's so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, it's always going to be in incredible and like
the best vibrance feeling ever. And I stopped and then
a group of family came up to me. They're like,
are you Karina from Married at First Sight? And I
was like, oh my god, yeah, I'm on the other
side of the What do you know how many people
actually watched that show from all different countries. And I
(23:07):
remember I went to share Margo, which is chees Margo.
I kind of even pronounced it a members only club.
There's so many members only clubs in New York. It's wild.
And I was there with a friend having dinner and
we're at the bar and girls next to us were like,
we recognize you. I got recognized so much, and I
was like, oh my god, this is wild, because you know,
(23:28):
I'm a small pond in a small fish in a
big pond over there. But yeah, the summer was incredible
for me. And that's what they do. They go on break,
they go to Hampton's every weekend. They leave the city
because it's so hot. People take time off work. So
I really just enjoyed that, and I think it kind
of reflected on you here and see too.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I feel like, you know, I was like, I got
seven weeks in BONDI I'm not usually here. I'm just
going to let my hair down, let your be down,
let down, just go with the flow. So yeah, I
did that on and yeah I'm speaking to someone at
the moment, but like just very lightly like what three dates,
(24:12):
But it's just kind of like I'm actually waiting for
someone to jump, like I'm with Jacob.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
I feel like you.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
But also can I say something.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, you're going through this whole transitional period of social media,
like the whole you know, I would go on your
Instagram and I might, wait, you've gotten all your business
pages out of your bio. What's going on? Are you transition?
What are you coming up with like a new business idea?
What's going on in your life?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I was that kind of like happening too, But yeah,
I I don't know. I feel like I'm entering this
new chapter in life where I feel like I don't
have to share every bit of myself. Yeah, I feel
like the pressure of sharing every bit of yourself is
a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I don't know how people do it. I feel like
this is.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A really big topic for me, and I've been going
through a lot and I need to get into it properly.
But with business and life and social media and everything,
it's it's been I think one of the most wildest
journeys I've been on, and it's something that I need
to get into properly.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
So I'm going to do that in the next episode.
But yeah, it's actually.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Been crazy, and I'm still going through the motions and
still figuring it out and still kind of yeah, working
what I want to do out and business changes too,
is scary, and that's something I'm going to also touch on.
And I think the biggest thing is me wanting to
kind of like go ghosts from the world.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, I feel you on that one.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah you can't, but I mean I can't cannot.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Let's dive into this next episode. Yeah, and the next
one will be more serious and a lot of people
can resonate towards it because they I feel like they,
you know, are going through similar things. Yeah, especially your
age category, and you know, working in your craft and
industry for fifteen years, you're maybe wanting something fresh for
(26:10):
the next fifteen years.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
It's kind of exciting. But I'll share that with you.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Okay, all right, Well until next episode.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Stay chaotic, guys, Take chaotic because we are.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Because we definitely are. Goodbye.
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