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We said right here that that video put out by
the Democrats talking about President Trump saying to the military, hey,
you know you don't have to follow illegal orders. I mean,
it was what it was, what it was. It was
trying to usurpup the president of the United States. It
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was putting into the heads of military members, this commander
in chief should not.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Be listened to. It was disgusting and there are people who.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Are still defending on what's so wrong about letting the
military know about their rights. That's not what happened, And
people saying that on social media anywhere else are liars.
They're liars, they're frauds, and they don't matter. What matters
is what you understand. And you could argue, well, there's
not anything specifically illegal about it, although there's a question there,
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but rather we know what you're trying to say. And
this is the part where it gets so duplicitous and
so ugly. They these democrats want us to believe that
They weren't saying that Donald Trump is engaged illegal orders.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
They want us to believe this, And they all.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Took to the Sunday shows and two our surprise, whether
it's Martha Raddits or over there at CBS, they were
all very very rough and tumbled. What illegal acts are
you suspecting the president of ordering the military to engage in?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
What illegal orders are you urging troops to refuse? And
what do you hope they take away from your message?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Alex, We love this country, we love our constitution. It
is our job as lawmakers, and especially in this moment,
to be clear morally, to be clear legally and simply
and clearly stating what the law says, what the Uniform
Code of Military Justice says. It's not a crime, it
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is not treason, it is not sedition.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
It is our job.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
And I think it's really important that we do our
jobs in this moment.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
I think it's important that we elect people that don't sound.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Like their nine year olds. My god, I'm not just
talking about her voice. Not much you could do about
your voice, but that presentation.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is that the sound of somebody who's strong in their convictions.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
By the way, she is the wife of Jake Sullivan.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You remember that name because he was the former National
Security advisor under Joe Biden. Talk about people who understand
illegal orders. Oh, I'm sorry, Joe Biden gave all those orders.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Sure he did.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Sure he did, like he was competent and in charge
in that last year of his presidency. Oh whatever you say.
She served as an intelligence officer in the US Navy Reserve. Uninspiring?
Is this great nonsense that she just viewed? How about
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Jason Crowe.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
Let's get to the content of what you had in that.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Video, you democrat, By the way, congressman.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Released because there are also fifteen House Republicans who are
also veterans, who released a video, including a retired three
star Marine Corps General Jack Bergman, take a listen to this.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Troops, listen up. Any service member.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Who refuses a lawful order is subject to court martial
for violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
We study what's lawful and what's not lawful, and the
Democrats stunt insinuating that their illegal or unconstitutional orders.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
It's downright dangerous. It is corrosive. It is meant to
weaken our country and weaken the military.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
How do you respond to these allegations from your colleagues
fellow veterans that what you have put out there is
weakening and corrosive to the military.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, these, unfortunately, are some of Trump's core supporters that are, oh,
stop it, you did what you did? Oh it's about Trump,
no turns out. But it's about the movies, says Senator Alyssa.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Slotkin.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Is very clear that no one should follow an illegal order,
but it's very murky when you look at what is
an illegal order, and if you go into morally ethically,
that's a pretty tough thing to look at and say,
how do I navigate.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
This, I don't.
Speaker 6 (06:20):
I mean, look, you're going back to Nuremberg right that, Well,
they told me to do it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
That's why I murdered people. Is not an excuse.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
If you look at popular culture, there's like you watch
you know a few good men like We have plenty
of examples since World War Two in Vietnam where people
were told to follow illegal orders and they did it
and they were prosecuted for it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
So Trump never put forth in illegal order.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
And your proof of he could do it is Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
You are a fool Senator slockin. I don't care if
you can handle the truth.