September 30, 2025 • 43 mins
Tonight, on Trackside with Curt Cavin and Kevin Lee, they talk about James Hinchcliffe and Romain Grosjean getting to test a Haas F1 car at Mugello over the weekend. They later talk about Jack Harvey returning to drive the #24 INVST Chevrolet with Dreyer & Reinbold Racing in the 2026 Indy 500. They also talk about where Ryan Hunter-Reay could land for the 2026 Indy 500, and which open seats and drivers remain for the race. Later, they talk about Ron Ruzewski moving to Andretti Global as the new team principle. They also talk about new faces for the Mid-Ohio preseason testing: Niels Koolen at Chip Ganassi Racing, Kakunoshin Ohta at Meyer Shank Racing, and Felipe Nasr at Team Penske. Other testing news at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course with Mick Schumacher at Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing, Lochie Hughes at Andretti Global, and Enzo Fittipaldi at Arrow McLaren for Sebring testing.
In the second segment, they talk about the significance of Mick Schumacher testing for Rahal. They also talk about the Alex Palou/McLaren trial going on in London.
To wrap up another edition of the show, Kevin talks about a possible return to Cleveland in 2028.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is track side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee
on ninety three five and one oh seven five the.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Ban So first day in a Formula One car done.
What a what a great day here. Migello started out wet.
Gros Jean was in the car first and he got
a lot of laps done then and gave me a
little bit of advice, as did Alia Essamon before I
jumped in in similar conditions and then luckily rain stopped
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and the sun came out and for the very last
run of the day was able to bolt on some
slicks and get a sense of what this thing can
do and dry conditions and kind of speechless honestly at
the end of the day, which a guy for talks,
that talks for a living. That's that really is saying something.
Really just an incredible experience, an incredible machine. Can't thank
everybody at HOSS Racing.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Enough and it's it's a day I'm going to remember
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hopefully I'll find a way to get to do this
again sometime because I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I would love to do it again.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But again, I can't thank everybody the team enough and uh,
hopefully you guys enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Following along, we've got news to cover another Indy five
hundred confirmation and a first look at what seats are
remaining and the path to thirty three and maybe beyond
for the Indy five hundred, which also has a big
unknown right now as we look to the field of
thirty three, there's been a major management change in Indy
Car Off season testing starts tomorrow, with one very notable
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test coming up that could lead to a twenty twenty
six drive. The McLaren versus Alex Pollou trial is underway
in the UK. But we start with who we heard
from James Hinchcliff courtesy of has F one. When a
friend and colleague who is semi retired gets to drive
a Ford from the one car we talk about it,
we lead with it. Hello, Welcome track Side ninety three
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to five, one oh seven to five the fan, Kevin Lee, Kirk,
Cavin Landon Coon's in our studio. A lot to get to,
but first Roma Grojean Worth noting got to kind of
finish off his drive with HASEF one. He's been there
and done that before. But for any racing driver, and
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I think for James Hinchcliffe. He always knew IndyCar was
the option for him. But when you're thirty seven, thirty
eight years old and seemingly done in single seaters to
get the drive that pretty cool. I have not chatted
with him about it, other than letting him gloat over
crushing me in fantasy football over the weekend. I was
quite surprised that he was paying attention enough to set
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his lineup and very disappointed. But he got to drive
the F one car.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, I think his enthusiasm for that speaks to,
you know, really how how drivers regard Formula One. You know,
we talk about it, and I know that we're always
in a competitive environment as IndyCar fans. We're like, you know,
Indy Cars as great as Formula One, but in its
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core drivers, the hearts of drivers, they want to drive
a Formula one car. That's what they want to do.
It's nothing against Indy Car. It's nothing that says that
the lifestyle of Formula one is better. It's not even
it's just they want to drive one.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's just cool.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I was trying to think what in my life
might be comparable as a jump, and I don't know
that I've got it, but it got an answer to it.
But to go from my day job get to do
something like that, that would be just unbelievably cool. I guess,
you know, me covering Formula one races at Manza, to
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have been to the Ferrari headquarters where they make and
test cars, I think those are comparable kind of cool
things that I've gotten to do. But you know, for
a driver at this point in Hinch's career, to get
to do a bucket list type of thing is good
for him.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And I don't know that they all want to race
Formula one exactly the best car they like. We hear
this from the ones that come from Formula one. They
love racing in IndyCar, but just the pure driving of
a day, single car, no one else involved, that's the
ultimate test. Can you master it? Can you do it?
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And even that said, they'd love to drive a cup car.
Formula one guys would like to drive a cup car.
They probably would like most of them to drive an
Indy car. They would like to drive an lmd H,
you know, prototype sports car. Race car drivers are race
car drivers so very cool. Sad that it was wets.
Luckily it dried out so he did get a stint
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on dry weather stick or tires. Grojean's was all in
the rain, or at least all in the wet. But
I'm looking forward to talking more with Hinch. We've got
a little gathering coming up, so we'll get a full
report and I'm sure he'll talk about it on his
podcast here coming up later this week. So that's one
notable from this week. All right, let's get into news
(04:57):
of the day. We have another confirmation for the Indie
five hundred and I've done some math. Not a huge surprise,
but good news anytime anything is confirmed. Jack Harvey is
back with Investors as partner for Dryer and Ryan Bold
Racing for the Indianapolis five hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think we'll see the same lineup from Dryan Reinbold
Hunter Ray has not been announced. We could see some
paths for him elsewhere and it may happen that way.
Maybe you know something I don't know, but I think
we will see that same combination. And it was a
good combination and in you know, these recent years, so
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good to see Jack back in a car and hard
to believe this is nine andy five hundreds now for him,
he's I think he missed one or two. But in
the middle of all that. But he's come a long
way from that twenty seventeen opportunity with Andrette that kind
of became Michael Shank and so forth.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And this has turned out to be a good opportunity
for Jack, and I'm sure this is part of the process.
It makes him a no brainer for a team and
a partner because one, he's a good race car driver,
Dryan Ryan Bold presents a good program. They were solid
in the month of May. But two, let's just be honest,
He's a part of the Fox broadcast team, so we
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know that car and that driver is going to get coverage.
So if I'm a partner, if I'm a sponsor like
invest I want Jack Harvey as my driver because even
if you're having a bad day, that car is going
to get on television in front of last year with
seven million people, and it's going to be discussed, and
it's going to be discussed in the run up.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
To the race.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I will offer a differing opinion. Don't know. I
don't think Ryan Hunter Ray is going to be the
second driver there. So I'm going to go through my
rundown and talk about options. I still think so it
starts with what's the best seat available and who is
probably hiring maybe not, Maybe they're going to require budget
and that becomes a different situation. But what is the
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best seat that is open and who who could use
Ryan Hunter Ray and be willing to pay for it.
Aeron McLaren fourth card, I think he's going to be.
That's where I think he's going to be. I don't
think I think this was subterfuge and just Zach Brown
playing that we've got a big thing planned. Maybe I'll
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be wrong on that. I don't know who it is.
I think it's a lot of work bringing in someone
that does not know the car and they have one
driver that's fully set and up to speed in Poddle Ward.
The second Christian loan guard is very competent and as
I said last week and I've said before, I think
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he'll take another big step and I think he's a contender,
you know, to be a Tier one or Tier two
type driver next year. But they could use some veteran help.
And unless they're going to bring in JR. Hildebrand who's
been out of the seat for a little while, or
I don't know who else it is, so that's why
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and I often use so I don't spend a lot
of time making phone calls like real journalists do and
getting sourcing, you know. And that'll get to how I
think we both said. And I had no idea that
Andrettie was going to be able to make a change
in hire Ron Razuski. I didn't know that was happening,
(08:20):
but it just made sense. It's just logic that he
was going to be there. So we'll get that in
a moment. So my logic says, Aaron McLaren is going
to hire Ryan Hunter Ray, here's what I have for
the five hundred. And there's a big caveat in all
of this. So we normally start with what's still available
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based on twenty seven full time cars, but we don't
know if they're going to be twenty seven. It's possibly
it's twenty five. We need to know what's happening with Prema,
and we have nothing. I don't think there. I know
other people, other journalists are asking what's going on and
they're getting no comment, So who knows. So let's start
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if they returned to the grid and we have twenty
seven cars, the twenty eighth is ed Carpenter. The twenty
ninth is Jack Harvey, the thirtieth is an Aryl McLaren.
I feel like we can say that they're going to
run a car, but I don't know that, but I'm
going to put that down for the moment. That also
makes seventeen Chevyes. If the two Premas make the field,
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if the twenty seven to happened last year, it's fourteen
Chevy and thirteen Honda. Thirty first, I'm going to say
Andretti runs a fourth car. It's probably for Marco Andretti,
but we don't know that yet. They do have another
pretty solid option in the stable who is free if
they wanted to do it. I doubt they do. I imagine
they tell Colton heard it a focus on Europe in
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the F two program and being an F one test driver,
but they could do that if they wanted. I suppose
they could also run a fifth if they wanted to,
and there's a scenario where the race and the event
might need it that I'll get to. Thirty second is
Meyer Shank Racing. I don't know if Elio has been
officially confirmed, but I feel like that's happening. There's been
(10:07):
no announcement, but there's I think that's happening. I think
he's going to get at least one more opportunity next year.
If not, I would expect they would go ahead and
run a third car. They should be equipped to do that.
Thirty third would be a Ray Hall Letterman Lanigan fourth
car for Takumasado with a question mark next to that.
It looks like they would run to run that back.
(10:28):
I would think SODO could get some funding for that,
and I would think Ray Hall Letterman Lanigan would want
him back. He was their best performer most of May
last year to get to thirty four Dry and Ryan
Bold's second, So that gets us back to where we
were last year. Those are the entries that we had
last year. If Hunter Ray does not return, a lot
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of ifs could be JAIRR. Hildebrand, he's raised for them before.
If Dennis Ryan Bold we know once to win the
NDY five hundred, best available driver out there that is
not running full season, that's not Ryan Hunterrey might be JR. Hildebrand.
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That is additive to the program. Even if he doesn't
win the race, He's going to help Jack Harvey. If
I'm Jack Harvey, that's who I'd like. The other option
is if Connor Daily does not have a full time seat,
that actually moves to probably P one because you know
Connor is going to be able to bring partners and
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help with the budget. So if Connor wants it, I
have to believe that that is his seat, and that
is a good option for Connor. If he doesn't have
a full time others on the list and this will
I could go back to McLaren and I suppose you
could say Connor or Jr. For McLaren, especially if they
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want budgets, then Connor Daily's guy. I don't think Ryan
Hunter Ray brings anything. I think those were all team
sponsors on his car, but I don't know that for certain.
But I think he's just simply a higher driver. And
I don't know the financials of McLaren. And that's why
it's hard to predict what's going to happen because we
don't know what they ask. It's not like baseball or basketball,
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where you're just getting the best power forward you can
with the salary cap money that you have. Other factors
are involved. If Prema goes away, Callum is Lot is
a candidate for all seats in a one off that
should be able to coincide if and when he gets
a sports car opportunity, or remember he drove for McLaren
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and did well in the five hundred to recover after
they had a mechanical. I'd put him in play for
any other team too. That's doing a one off. Young
guys like Toby Salary, who is really impressing in sports
cars in LMP two and I think has some budgets,
so I would not rule out Toby Salary. I would
rule out Hunter mcilray. So that's thirty fourth car in
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options and tell me when I finish them for getting there.
To get to thirty five, or here's where it gets important.
This could be just to get to thirty three. If
Prema goes away, you need all of this to happen
to get to thirty three. It's going to take a
third from Foyts or a third from Coin or Prema
running an Indy five hundred program. Maybe someone comes in
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and buys the equipment for pennies on the dollar because
they don't know what to do with it and says, well,
we don't have the budget to run, you know, to
pay twenty million to run these two cars, but we
can find sponsorship to run the ND five hundred. Maybe
maybe that's an opportunity there, or someone else just buys
the equipment and runs an extra car and they're knowing
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that it's going to.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Be easy to make the race.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I could see Foight doing an extra car with
Penske supports for Miles Row again, especially if Prema goes away,
they're going to have to field an extra car. And
I think it's critical. Thirty three is not a number.
So before Penske Entertainment does their marketing budget for next year,
they need to find out a PREMI is coming back
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because some of their marketing or activation budget may have
to go to making sure they have thirty three cars,
because unfortunately that has happened before.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No I would agree with everything, and I was. It
was funny. I was almost keeping score in my head
of pathways to the numbers you've described and extra opportunities.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I think.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think Connor's a huge wild card in this. Obviously,
the premise story is a big one. Huntery is a
valuable asset wherever he ends up. But I think you've
you've nailed it. I don't see I still keep coming
back to Kyle Collette being involved in the Indy five
hundred next year, you speak of you know, you have
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a little more depth with him than I do, but
whether his budget is sufficient to get him to the
ND five hundred next year. But well, you might say
full time, he might be full time. I just think
he has to be in the void card. I just
have to imagine he factors in somewhere, and if he is,
if he is not factored in, or if he is
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factored in as a full time or word does Jacob
Abel end up? So some are somewhere in there. I
think Jacob Abel factors in. So then there's and there's
some others. There's some other drivers who obviously could be
in full time rides, you know as Lina Slundquist out there,
uh in a full time seat. And there's obviously a
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long list of people who would like to be and
and you're you're always great about documenting I'm listing identifying
those those other drivers. But uh, I think we've we've
got our hands around it. And you know, the the
aera McLaren one, if it's a real wild card, if
it's beyond Ryan Hutteray as a wild card, I just
think we're going to have to hear that pretty soon soon.
(16:00):
I just think it you're not gonna You're not going
to wait on that until pretty deep. If it's a
new driver, somebody coming out of the out of a
different formula.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
What if it's someone that is waiting to see what
other opportunities are out there. A couple of names I
did not mention. While I think it's I think Ryan Hunter,
Ray makes the most sense, and I think that's who
it's going to be, I can't say that with one
hundred percent confidence, So I will add in those others
that I that I talked about, like Connor, like Hildebrand,
like ey Lot, and what about Lenis or Renus? If
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Renus vk now surely he's got a full time seat,
he has to They would not have told dale Coin
we are not interested in coming back without something. So
he has to be somewhere. We don't think it's at foight,
so it has to be And who goes Hollinger? I
guess it could still be a Ray Hall, Letterman, Landingham,
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but we'll get to that, and we think we see
if they're making any changes, who that's going to be.
But if somehow Renus vk does not have a full
time seat, He's going to have his pick of places
and Linas Lunquist that could be. So this is the
other way McLaren could go. They could use it as
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a tryout, all right. Nolan Siegel is apparently on the
last year of his contract and they are probably going
to expect something from him this year. So if it
does not go well and they want to consider other options,
do they put Calumilot back in the car to think
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about twenty twenty seven or do they put Linas Lunquist
in the car to think about twenty twenty seven? So
all of those are still in play there. But yeah,
we have to know what else is going to happen
from the full time And you're right about Jacob Abel
so I think his best chance would be Foy full time.
Don't know what Kyle Khaled, who's going to test what
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his budget level is. I would think Jacob has the
ability for it to be more. If that doesn't happen,
if there is no full time opportunity, then yeah, I
would think someone would be interested, and I think they
would be motivated to try to find a proper Indy
five hundred situation that could be an extra ride with Foight.
Maybe they could revisit Coin. Don't know that they would.
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I don't see them spending to go back to where
they were bumped last year. But Coin now as a
partnership with Andretti, And what we don't know is how
deep is that partnership. Is it just for Dennis Hauger's
car or is everyone confident enough that that's going to go.
And remember they have Michael Cannon, which they did not
have for did they have him now? They got him
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after the after they did not have him for the
five hundred last year. So that's where I think things
are at at this point. Next topic, Former Penske managing
director Ron Razuski has joined Andretti Global. And I threw
around in engineer. The more I thought about that, I
mentioned a you know, team manager type. Makes sense that
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Ron might not be interested in being an engineer, and
I should have kind of. I also didn't want to
give him someone's job, which is sort of what he got.
He's sort of taking over for Rob Edwards, but Rob
is still going to be heavily involved in a management role.
What is Rob's title now? Chief Performance Officer and he'll
be more involved with everything they do, which with TWG
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Motorsports is a lot. So I don't think this is
necessarily a demotion for Rob Edwards. Oh I don't think
so at all. I don't think so. I think this
is taking someone who knows other forms of motorsport and
isn't a managing capacity. And this is what I did
get right, is that there's room. There's plenty of room
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at the end for more management types. But another veteran
engineer was recently telling me who's become more of a
technical director. He said, being the car engineer, the lead
in engineer. Our car is a young man's game or
a young woman's game, but it is a young person's game,
and it takes total devotion, and there becomes a time
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in life where you may not want to do that,
and you can run a program with a little more
time at night than you can just crunching numbers and
doing that. So that makes sense that this is the
perfect opportunity for Ron Razuski. So the band is back together.
Will Power has Ron Rezuski is a part of his
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program and this is a huge get for Andretti and
it's not great for Team Penske, No, just in the
competition standpoint, and they knew that, they knew that when
they hit. They let these guys go. Roger Penske decided,
I'm going to look at the big picture and I
need to think about image and what everybody's thinking. I'm
still not convinced. I don't know what happened. I don't
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know who was responsible. I don't know if they're being blamed.
I tend to think it was more. Roger just said,
I've got to make a start that this is not
going to be tolerated and whether you're guilty or not,
you're all gone. And that's what happened. Well, I think
what we've seen. I think the underlying theme here over
the last year is that good teams find room for
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good people. And we've seen it with Kyle Moyer, we've
seen it now with Ron Razuski, and there are other
examples in the Panic where beefing up your management is
not just replacing someone else, it's adding good people to
the program. And you know, I kind of I don't
want to just give Aaron McLaren credit, but I look
at Aaron McLaren's situation and I look at all the
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depth that they have in people who have great institutional
knowledge in the sport. And it's just like it seems
like every six months they add somebody else that adds
to the program. At some point it has to deliver
an NY five hundred win or a series championship, but
they put you know, they go into basically the last race.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The season second and third points, or with the potential
to finish second and third points. That's a pretty good season,
especially when your Formula One program is working as well
as it does.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Not everybody has, you know, an alternative program that is
that is doing well. But I think if if you
look at overall how Zach Zach Brown has put that
program together, there's just they just have great depth in
their management and I think for years we kind of
underestimated that, you know, you needed a technical director and
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you needed a lead engineer, you needed it, you know,
but they just keep adding and that's good for the program.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And thinking more about Rob Edwards, it's very possible that
Rob said hey, we need to get Ron Razuski and
other people are going to be trying to get him.
So I am a team player and if we need
to say he is leading the IndyCar operation. Let's do it.
There's plenty for me to do. Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And and you know the other thing about Ron, in
addition to being just a smart guy, he's about us
calm to a program's needs. You know, I just saw
something on social media the other day. Don't be the
problem for your boss. Be the kind of the calming
person in your in your organization that just gets stuff done.
(23:23):
That's that's Ron Razuski. He just gets stuff done. He's
not looking for show voting.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
He's not you know, speaking out of turn. He just
does his job. And you can't have too many of
those people.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's a big deal. It is a really big deal.
People are asking, well, right, Tim Sindric, you're on the clock.
I don't think Tim Sindrick, is that's different, a different scenario. Yeah,
And what we don't know? And I tweeted out something
that I think we might say for next week. There
was something I want to find actually what it was.
There was something on Awful announcing that.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
There is going to be.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Five unsolved sports mysteries we want Pablo Tory to find out.
There's a podcast. Pablotory is an ESPN Personalities off and
on pardon the interruption, and he's the guy that kind
of uncovered what might be a salary cap circumvention with
the Los Angeles Clippers and Kawhi Leonard, and there were
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a few things in there. Honestly, I didn't all find
that interesting in sport, but I tweeted something that might
be a good track side off season discussion most interesting
on unsolved mysteries in IndyCar And the first one that
comes to mind me is, I want to know what
happened at Saint Pete, who ordered the code read and
who knew about it in twenty twenty four, and then
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you knows someone else mentioned what happened this year in
the Indy five hundred. We'll save that for next week
or the week after. People want to send in some
more things, but that's one of those in that department
as well.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
That we find interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead, go ahead, next up, because
we're going to try to run through a lot of
things in the hour that we have tonight. Testing gets
started tomorrow, yes, or twenty twenty six. There are a
few cars at mid Ohio. Neil's Colan, who had a
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really impressive second season in Indy next this year for Ganassi.
Those that don't pay attention. Neils came as a rookie,
ran at the back in twenty twenty four. Wasn't surprised
because he was basically jumping up from F four to
Indy Next, had all the budget in the world behind him,
did proper testing, ran most of the full season, and
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did about what you'd expect. Year two, he started running
in the top ten most of the time and sometimes
in the top five. He is going to get an
evaluation test in the Indy Car. He's not a candidate
to race next year. I don't think that's been announced,
but I have to believe he's doing another year in
Indy next or next season. Kaku Oda was announced yesterday
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with Meyer Shank Racing. I met him briefly. He has
run in the endurance races for Meyer Shank Racing. He
is a Honda driver. I don't believe he's a candidate
for a twenty twenty six seat either. Meyer Shank is
full but this is part of the He's a talented driver.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He's running.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I think he's third in the championship.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
He is won three races in super Formula which is
where is from there yeah, some guy named Alex Palo.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
He's pretty good and he didn't win that championship either.
I think he might have finished third in that championship,
so similar pedigree. I just remember hearing at the Rolex
that he is highly regarded, so he could be someone
for the future. I'm happy that Honda wants to put
him in IndyCar. Maybe that means they plan on staying
in IndyCar, or maybe it's just simply we want our
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drivers to drive as much as they can. You know,
maybe Formula One is something they're thinking about for him.
And I hear Felipe Nasser, that young up and comer,
is doing an evaluation test for Team Penske, so we'll
find out if Felipe Nasser has the goods. And this
is just simply using the system to what it is
because Felipe Naser is not full time and he's done
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this at least once before. I don't know what the
limit is or if maybe it has to have a
year separated between it. It's probably been a couple of
years and he was he drove I think a Carlin
car at Coda in preseason the year of the pandemic
in twenty twenty one. That was twenty twenty. But was
(27:36):
that twenty twenty? I think in twenty twenty he was
under I think I got to go back to my notes.
I may be wrong about that, but he is a Poorschapenski,
very highly regarded sports car driver who has spent time
in Formula one. So this is an opportunity for Penske
to learn some things and still smart to have a
reserve driver.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yep, yeah, I think this is exact exactly that he's
not got a future in IndyCar in my opinion, to me,
he must have characteristics in his driving style that compares
favorably to other drivers they have, and therefore they look
for his feedback as an experienced driver who's driven a
lot of things. You know, it certainly beats just throwing
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somebody in the car who provided a check to cover
that event.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'll tell you this. Someone of importance told me last
year if I could choose someone to hire not worried
about upside and age, just right now, it's Felipe Nazar
for Indiecar. So I think he'd still do it if
offered the opportunity. But he's got a pretty good deal
(28:47):
with being a Penske or a Porsche factory driver driving
for Porshapensk as well. Next up on the testing list
is what's coming up at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. And
we have it confirmed from Ray Hall Letterman that Mick
Schumacher is going to be in a car there.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This is the road course.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
This is the road road course, sorry, the road course.
On Monday, October thirteenth, Marshall Prooded Racer wrote that Andretti
Global may test Indie next driver Lockey Hughes in an
evaluation run and let's see Aera McClaren may test Enzo
fit A Paldi at Sebring later in the month. I
(29:33):
believe Enzo fit A Paldi is doing full season in
Indy next next season, and I know he was just
at a test at Autoban last week. So what they
had and I had some questions on this last week?
What was this test at Autobon. There were about I
think there were twelve cars, maybe fifteen drivers. Some just
did one day two day test. It was only for
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people who have not driven in in the next car before.
So there there was another F two driver that came over.
I let the team share the name and I'll be honest,
I didn't recognize the name. And then some drivers that
are potentially moving up from USF Pro two thousand and
I believe he was one of those in that last week.
(30:17):
What else do we know as far as testing. Oh
and by the way, Enzo was pretty accomplished in LMP two,
But I think Schumacher one is the big one. And
there's also a test I think at Barber coming up
at some point.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
At some point I think, you know, we're still going
to see. We haven't got any details to share, but
there'll be an oval test at the Speedway. That's why
I wanted to kind of make sure everybody understood that
mix Schumacher was a road course test and there'll be
a couple other cars there with him, I'm sure, but
you know, some of these things, the teams are in
control of that information, so unless it leaks out, it's
(30:51):
not like there's a list of names of people yet.
For particularly the Indie test, and I don't know the
scope of it. Couple of years ago that was like
I think maybe last year it was like nine all
ten teams, maybe nine or ten teams, and each one
had one car as opposed to everybody getting two or
three cars. It was just one driver. I think that
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was last year, but I think it'll be it might
even be a smaller field this year, so we'll see
how that shakes out.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
We know will Power won't be a part of that.
I did a screenshot of this one from a couple
of weeks ago, never got to it. John Jay Wards
seventy seven tweeted, will she just repeatedly go to the
Team Penske building and make coffee on the cureg machine
and remind them he still has a contract for three
and a half months, use the restrooms, fitness.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Center, et cetera. Same with Ron Rizziski. By the way,
he's not available. The press release from Andretti said he
would start January of twenty twenty six, so.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's still on gardening leave. He has a non compete yep.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Same with will and so you know, if if Team
Penske is part of a test at the speedway in
the fall here, probably this month, it won't be will Power.
I mean say it won't be willpower, but if Andretti
does as well, it won't be willpower. So he'll be
on the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What's the significance of Mick Schumacher. We're going to talk
about that next on track side. Hi, this is Poto
Award and you're listening to truck side all right, hustling
through some things here. Didn't get to finish up all
the testing stuff we ran long in the first segment.
Does Mick Schumacher testing with Ray Hall mean anything? I
have a thought you go first. So, first of all,
it kind of has two things. One, it is a
(32:27):
huge opportunity for IndyCar and publicity because Mick wile maybe not,
I mean just because he's a Shoemacher, is a big deal.
I mean his dad still is huge fan base. Second
of all, I think if this goes well for him,
if he enjoys it, I think he's got the backing
to do that, and they have a seat potentially for him,
(32:47):
and that would be in the thirty car that Devil
and d Francesco drove this year. I think that's we'll
have to see how it goes, but this would be
a good draw for IndyCar and I think could be
their answer in the thirty car as well. So the
question has been asked, is this just Rayhall taking advantage
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of an evaluation day to get some data like Penske does.
And my thought on that is it is not at all.
If it was, they would be doing it anywhere other
than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course where they are
hooked up. They don't. Yes, you need to always keep
getting better, But if they're going to invest in a
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test day, they would do it at midd Ohio, they
would do it at Barber, they would do it at Sebring,
they would do it at any place other than the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This is real now. It simply could
be Mick Schumacher brought budget and said I want to
show what I can do, and the road course is
the most friendly to European drivers, easiest track to learn
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to show what you can do and get a feel
of the car. And he could be stating his intentions
that he wants to come here and look at other opportunities,
you know, the open seats with Coin or who goes
Holling or Foyd or whoever. But there's something I think
there's something potential to this, so we will keep an
eye on that. What else did I say? Okay, So
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the McLaren Alex Polow trial is underway in the UK.
There are good right ups on that in the Indie
Star with Nathan Brown, Racer dot Com with Marshall Pruitt.
We're probably going to learn some more things and we're
going to learn some salaries and it's it's.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Just the kind of juicy stuff we want to know.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I don't think I mentioned this. Alex Polow is starting
to loosen up a little bit. So I went to
the banquet or the victory celebration here a few weeks
ago and Bob pocras, Yeah, Bob wrote some things on
Fox Sports dot Com as well, and Bob was there
and wrote some of these quotes down. He talked to
them before and upstairs on the day as he basically said, yeah,
(35:00):
I was a little bit of an idiot, but everybody
gave me another chance. And he just kind of makes
jokes about his bad decisions and how he's happy to
have another chance in that. So one of the things
that McLaren is arguing is that they had to pay
Poto Award more than they would have because they didn't
have Alex Polow. I don't know. I mean, yes, there
(35:20):
was more importance to keep him, but I think they
would have wanted to keep Poto Award anyway. You know
out there is everything Nolan Siegel is getting paid, what
Christian Loonguard is getting paid, what the bonuses were involved
in all of this, and I'm a lot of it.
(35:45):
I think is going to come down to the F
one opportunity. I think that's what the Polo side is
going to be arguing we were led to believe there
was an F one opportunity. McLaren is saying, no, there
was no promise of that, because that's what Polo has said.
Once I learned that Pastre was the real deal and
there was not going to be any open seat between
him and Norris, I'm not interested. I want to stay
(36:07):
with the best Indy car team. That's clearly was part
of it for him. And then that's where they're going
to have to get into what was written down and
what was verbally agreed to, and then how much money
they lost from loss of sponsors by not having plow.
Is that his responsibility for that and does it come
into play that he signed with McLaren the first time
(36:28):
around when he had a binding contract with Ganassi that
was ignored. McLaren will say that's on the driver. He
told us he was free.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I just know the legal fees are going to be
high in this. Did you see saw jim Boyle's there.
Saw Jimmy Boyle's there hanging out very tight with Gassi, Yeah,
very tight with Ganassi and I on my side, and
they've got a lot of good lawyers on that team,
I'm sure. But that's going to be fun stuff. I mean,
I know it's not fun for those going going through it,
and Alex has got a mess to kind of clan
(37:00):
up here. But I think we was race. Fans will
learn some things and it could be entertaining.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I've got some tweets that I'll try to get to
in the final segment. Wanted to mention the loss of
someone that fans may not know, but people in the
Indy car community would know. Chris Bucher passed away after
a long battle photographer recently with co Force. One of
those guys that I'll be honest, I didn't know. Well,
(37:28):
just someone a friendly face that you waved to and
said hello, I know you know.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Chris, Yeah, one of the one of the really good photographers,
one of the great people. He actually many of our
listeners know. Mark Lynch Well from the Burger Bash markin
and Chris Mark and his brother Matt grew up with
with Chris, and they were longtime buddies. In fact, this
is funny that you know. It's so it's Matt and
(37:53):
Mark Lynch and and Chris Bucher and another friend of
theirs named John. So so they identified themselves for a
long time as Matthew, Mark Luke and John Buke and John. Sorry, Matthew,
Mark buch and John and John.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Okay, it still works.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, But Chris a great was a great man and
such a great photographer. And you've seen so much of
his work. His indy car work I actually think is
not as good as some of his artistic work. His
artistic work is unbelievable. And you know indy cars. You
try to shoot race cars as you as you can,
(38:32):
but they're fast moving. So it's a it's a huge
loss for the community. And I saw a lot of
people in the Indianapolis community reached out about him, people
I didn't know had crossed paths with him. That's that's
always the mark of what a person meant to a community.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Thoughts go out to Chris his friends and family, all Right,
what we missed is coming up next on trackside.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Hi, this is Felix frozen Quist and you're listening to trackside.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, final second meant what we missed and I'll admit
if it happened today, I might have missed it. So
here's one of the benefits to being what is my title, the.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Director of.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Business Relationships, revenue, whatever you want to call with Jackson
Lee Racing. So I was invited to play at Cricket
Stick today, which is one of the top golf courses
in the Indianapolis area with some potential partners of Jackson's
next year. Had a great time and have not looked
at social media in the last eight hours or so.
(39:35):
Plausibly Live is how we did. The first couple of segments.
Tried to talk Kurt into coming in this evening.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
You know he doesn't do nights.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
But I did see Adam Stern post something that the
Greater Cleveland Sports Commission sent out a survey to area
leaders that states that there is an exciting opportunity that
we are assessing for northeast Ohio the return of IndyCar
to downtown Cleveland in twenty two twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Adam Stern of SBJ also says the IndyCar is exploring
a potential street course race in Cleveland, according to a
survey sent to local leaders. So yeah, I think that's,
you know, part of the partnership with Fox IndyCar as well.
They're looking at where we can can we go in
major cities and create events.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
So I find that interesting.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
What else, Let's go to the Twitter inbox Ken add
one k Moose.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
You know Moose always gets you to the head of
the line.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
S What would be a good street course race to
attend next IndyCar season?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
One? To go to one?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I've only been to OVAL's and road courses best for
our first timer.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Good views of the.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Track, nice fan experience. So I love Saint Pete. There
are not a lot of ton just GA views, although
I think there are some kind of next to what's
is it a convention center. It's kind of where the
media is center is. You can stand out there and
see a few things. I'd still maybe think about trying
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to get a grandstand seat in that.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Turn one area.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
That's just a fantastic view. But I love Saint Pete.
I love Long Beach. Those are the two as far
as street courses with just walk to a lot of.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Things in the area, you're going to run into people
as well.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
A few tweets about my idea of you know, the
biggest unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
In IndyCar that we'll we'll get to next week as well.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Hector Serrano asks, is the FIA going to get the
call to take over IndyCar officiating?
Speaker 4 (41:37):
What's the word on this? It's almost October. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I don't know what the plan is for. That's one
of the tbds TBAs. How are they taking this to
a third party? It seems like the FIA might be expensive,
but that also would seem like that would be one
of the possibilities as well.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
IndyCar can or I should have asked Kurt this. Hopefully
Kurt listens to this part of the segment. Ken R.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Anderson eighty two, I've heard there's some renderings out there.
When do we expect the new car renderings to be made.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Available to the public?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Also a bit late, congrats to you and the resident
driver for a great showing at IMS.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Thank you, Ken.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So I'll tab that for Kurt to ask, he needs
to walk down the hall and say and ask when.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Will we the public see what the plans are.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Trill Power says, why didn't the Richmond Race return to
the schedule after COVID. They were scheduled to race there
in twenty but COVID altered the schedule.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Was it a promoter events? The answer is always money.
I think they were concerned.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
About being able to sell the requisite number of tickets
and sponsorship to pay the promoter cost.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
They found an out and they took it. I think
the track.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
President also changed at that time as well. I'd love
to see it come back. Don't know if it's in
the pipeline or not. We're out of time. We'll see
you next Monday night, I believe, Monday at seven on
track side ninety three five one oh seven five The
fan
This is track side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee
on ninety three five and one oh seven five the.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Ban So first day in a Formula One car done.
What a what a great day here. Migello started out wet.
Gros Jean was in the car first and he got
a lot of laps done then and gave me a
little bit of advice, as did Alia Essamon before I
jumped in in similar conditions and then luckily rain stopped
(00:30):
and the sun came out and for the very last
run of the day was able to bolt on some
slicks and get a sense of what this thing can
do and dry conditions and kind of speechless honestly at
the end of the day, which a guy for talks,
that talks for a living. That's that really is saying something.
Really just an incredible experience, an incredible machine. Can't thank
everybody at HOSS Racing.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Enough and it's it's a day I'm going to remember
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Hopefully I'll find a way to get to do this
again sometime because I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I would love to do it again.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
But again, I can't thank everybody the team enough and uh,
hopefully you guys enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Following along, we've got news to cover another Indy five
hundred confirmation and a first look at what seats are
remaining and the path to thirty three and maybe beyond
for the Indy five hundred, which also has a big
unknown right now as we look to the field of
thirty three, there's been a major management change in Indy
Car Off season testing starts tomorrow, with one very notable
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test coming up that could lead to a twenty twenty
six drive. The McLaren versus Alex Pollou trial is underway
in the UK. But we start with who we heard
from James Hinchcliff courtesy of has F one. When a
friend and colleague who is semi retired gets to drive
a Ford from the one car we talk about it,
we lead with it. Hello, Welcome track Side ninety three
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to five, one oh seven to five the fan, Kevin Lee, Kirk,
Cavin Landon Coon's in our studio. A lot to get to,
but first Roma Grojean Worth noting got to kind of
finish off his drive with HASEF one. He's been there
and done that before. But for any racing driver, and
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I think for James Hinchcliffe. He always knew IndyCar was
the option for him. But when you're thirty seven, thirty
eight years old and seemingly done in single seaters to
get the drive that pretty cool. I have not chatted
with him about it, other than letting him gloat over
crushing me in fantasy football over the weekend. I was
quite surprised that he was paying attention enough to set
(02:29):
his lineup and very disappointed. But he got to drive
the F one car.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know, I think his enthusiasm for that speaks to,
you know, really how how drivers regard Formula One. You know,
we talk about it, and I know that we're always
in a competitive environment as IndyCar fans. We're like, you know,
Indy Cars as great as Formula One, but in its
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core drivers, the hearts of drivers, they want to drive
a Formula one car. That's what they want to do.
It's nothing against Indy Car. It's nothing that says that
the lifestyle of Formula one is better. It's not even
it's just they want to drive one.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
It's just cool.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And I was trying to think what in my life
might be comparable as a jump, and I don't know
that I've got it, but it got an answer to it.
But to go from my day job get to do
something like that, that would be just unbelievably cool. I guess,
you know, me covering Formula one races at Manza, to
(03:33):
have been to the Ferrari headquarters where they make and
test cars, I think those are comparable kind of cool
things that I've gotten to do. But you know, for
a driver at this point in Hinch's career, to get
to do a bucket list type of thing is good
for him.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
And I don't know that they all want to race
Formula one exactly the best car they like. We hear
this from the ones that come from Formula one. They
love racing in IndyCar, but just the pure driving of
a day, single car, no one else involved, that's the
ultimate test. Can you master it? Can you do it?
(04:15):
And even that said, they'd love to drive a cup car.
Formula one guys would like to drive a cup car.
They probably would like most of them to drive an
Indy car. They would like to drive an lmd H,
you know, prototype sports car. Race car drivers are race
car drivers so very cool. Sad that it was wets.
Luckily it dried out so he did get a stint
(04:36):
on dry weather stick or tires. Grojean's was all in
the rain, or at least all in the wet. But
I'm looking forward to talking more with Hinch. We've got
a little gathering coming up, so we'll get a full
report and I'm sure he'll talk about it on his
podcast here coming up later this week. So that's one
notable from this week. All right, let's get into news
(04:57):
of the day. We have another confirmation for the Indie
five hundred and I've done some math. Not a huge surprise,
but good news anytime anything is confirmed. Jack Harvey is
back with Investors as partner for Dryer and Ryan Bold
Racing for the Indianapolis five hundred.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
I think we'll see the same lineup from Dryan Reinbold
Hunter Ray has not been announced. We could see some
paths for him elsewhere and it may happen that way.
Maybe you know something I don't know, but I think
we will see that same combination. And it was a
good combination and in you know, these recent years, so
(05:36):
good to see Jack back in a car and hard
to believe this is nine andy five hundreds now for him,
he's I think he missed one or two. But in
the middle of all that. But he's come a long
way from that twenty seventeen opportunity with Andrette that kind
of became Michael Shank and so forth.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
And this has turned out to be a good opportunity
for Jack, and I'm sure this is part of the process.
It makes him a no brainer for a team and
a partner because one, he's a good race car driver,
Dryan Ryan Bold presents a good program. They were solid
in the month of May. But two, let's just be honest,
He's a part of the Fox broadcast team, so we
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know that car and that driver is going to get coverage.
So if I'm a partner, if I'm a sponsor like
invest I want Jack Harvey as my driver because even
if you're having a bad day, that car is going
to get on television in front of last year with
seven million people, and it's going to be discussed, and
it's going to be discussed in the run up.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
To the race.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I will offer a differing opinion. Don't know. I
don't think Ryan Hunter Ray is going to be the
second driver there. So I'm going to go through my
rundown and talk about options. I still think so it
starts with what's the best seat available and who is
probably hiring maybe not, Maybe they're going to require budget
and that becomes a different situation. But what is the
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best seat that is open and who who could use
Ryan Hunter Ray and be willing to pay for it.
Aeron McLaren fourth card, I think he's going to be.
That's where I think he's going to be. I don't
think I think this was subterfuge and just Zach Brown
playing that we've got a big thing planned. Maybe I'll
(07:17):
be wrong on that. I don't know who it is.
I think it's a lot of work bringing in someone
that does not know the car and they have one
driver that's fully set and up to speed in Poddle Ward.
The second Christian loan guard is very competent and as
I said last week and I've said before, I think
(07:38):
he'll take another big step and I think he's a contender,
you know, to be a Tier one or Tier two
type driver next year. But they could use some veteran help.
And unless they're going to bring in JR. Hildebrand who's
been out of the seat for a little while, or
I don't know who else it is, so that's why
(07:58):
and I often use so I don't spend a lot
of time making phone calls like real journalists do and
getting sourcing, you know. And that'll get to how I
think we both said. And I had no idea that
Andrettie was going to be able to make a change
in hire Ron Razuski. I didn't know that was happening,
(08:20):
but it just made sense. It's just logic that he
was going to be there. So we'll get that in
a moment. So my logic says, Aaron McLaren is going
to hire Ryan Hunter Ray, here's what I have for
the five hundred. And there's a big caveat in all
of this. So we normally start with what's still available
(08:40):
based on twenty seven full time cars, but we don't
know if they're going to be twenty seven. It's possibly
it's twenty five. We need to know what's happening with Prema,
and we have nothing. I don't think there. I know
other people, other journalists are asking what's going on and
they're getting no comment, So who knows. So let's start
(09:01):
if they returned to the grid and we have twenty
seven cars, the twenty eighth is ed Carpenter. The twenty
ninth is Jack Harvey, the thirtieth is an Aryl McLaren.
I feel like we can say that they're going to
run a car, but I don't know that, but I'm
going to put that down for the moment. That also
makes seventeen Chevyes. If the two Premas make the field,
(09:22):
if the twenty seven to happened last year, it's fourteen
Chevy and thirteen Honda. Thirty first, I'm going to say
Andretti runs a fourth car. It's probably for Marco Andretti,
but we don't know that yet. They do have another
pretty solid option in the stable who is free if
they wanted to do it. I doubt they do. I imagine
they tell Colton heard it a focus on Europe in
(09:44):
the F two program and being an F one test driver,
but they could do that if they wanted. I suppose
they could also run a fifth if they wanted to,
and there's a scenario where the race and the event
might need it that I'll get to. Thirty second is
Meyer Shank Racing. I don't know if Elio has been
officially confirmed, but I feel like that's happening. There's been
(10:07):
no announcement, but there's I think that's happening. I think
he's going to get at least one more opportunity next year.
If not, I would expect they would go ahead and
run a third car. They should be equipped to do that.
Thirty third would be a Ray Hall Letterman Lanigan fourth
car for Takumasado with a question mark next to that.
It looks like they would run to run that back.
(10:28):
I would think SODO could get some funding for that,
and I would think Ray Hall Letterman Lanigan would want
him back. He was their best performer most of May
last year to get to thirty four Dry and Ryan
Bold's second, So that gets us back to where we
were last year. Those are the entries that we had
last year. If Hunter Ray does not return, a lot
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of ifs could be JAIRR. Hildebrand, he's raised for them before.
If Dennis Ryan Bold we know once to win the
NDY five hundred, best available driver out there that is
not running full season, that's not Ryan Hunterrey might be JR. Hildebrand.
(11:14):
That is additive to the program. Even if he doesn't
win the race, He's going to help Jack Harvey. If
I'm Jack Harvey, that's who I'd like. The other option
is if Connor Daily does not have a full time seat,
that actually moves to probably P one because you know
Connor is going to be able to bring partners and
(11:34):
help with the budget. So if Connor wants it, I
have to believe that that is his seat, and that
is a good option for Connor. If he doesn't have
a full time others on the list and this will
I could go back to McLaren and I suppose you
could say Connor or Jr. For McLaren, especially if they
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want budgets, then Connor Daily's guy. I don't think Ryan
Hunter Ray brings anything. I think those were all team
sponsors on his car, but I don't know that for certain.
But I think he's just simply a higher driver. And
I don't know the financials of McLaren. And that's why
it's hard to predict what's going to happen because we
don't know what they ask. It's not like baseball or basketball,
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where you're just getting the best power forward you can
with the salary cap money that you have. Other factors
are involved. If Prema goes away, Callum is Lot is
a candidate for all seats in a one off that
should be able to coincide if and when he gets
a sports car opportunity, or remember he drove for McLaren
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and did well in the five hundred to recover after
they had a mechanical. I'd put him in play for
any other team too. That's doing a one off. Young
guys like Toby Salary, who is really impressing in sports
cars in LMP two and I think has some budgets,
so I would not rule out Toby Salary. I would
rule out Hunter mcilray. So that's thirty fourth car in
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options and tell me when I finish them for getting there.
To get to thirty five, or here's where it gets important.
This could be just to get to thirty three. If
Prema goes away, you need all of this to happen
to get to thirty three. It's going to take a
third from Foyts or a third from Coin or Prema
running an Indy five hundred program. Maybe someone comes in
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and buys the equipment for pennies on the dollar because
they don't know what to do with it and says, well,
we don't have the budget to run, you know, to
pay twenty million to run these two cars, but we
can find sponsorship to run the ND five hundred. Maybe
maybe that's an opportunity there, or someone else just buys
the equipment and runs an extra car and they're knowing
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that it's going to.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Be easy to make the race.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
But I could see Foight doing an extra car with
Penske supports for Miles Row again, especially if Prema goes away,
they're going to have to field an extra car. And
I think it's critical. Thirty three is not a number.
So before Penske Entertainment does their marketing budget for next year,
they need to find out a PREMI is coming back
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because some of their marketing or activation budget may have
to go to making sure they have thirty three cars,
because unfortunately that has happened before.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
No I would agree with everything, and I was. It
was funny. I was almost keeping score in my head
of pathways to the numbers you've described and extra opportunities.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I think.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
I think Connor's a huge wild card in this. Obviously,
the premise story is a big one. Huntery is a
valuable asset wherever he ends up. But I think you've
you've nailed it. I don't see I still keep coming
back to Kyle Collette being involved in the Indy five
hundred next year, you speak of you know, you have
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a little more depth with him than I do, but
whether his budget is sufficient to get him to the
ND five hundred next year. But well, you might say
full time, he might be full time. I just think
he has to be in the void card. I just
have to imagine he factors in somewhere, and if he is,
if he is not factored in, or if he is
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factored in as a full time or word does Jacob
Abel end up? So some are somewhere in there. I
think Jacob Abel factors in. So then there's and there's
some others. There's some other drivers who obviously could be
in full time rides, you know as Lina Slundquist out there,
uh in a full time seat. And there's obviously a
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long list of people who would like to be and
and you're you're always great about documenting I'm listing identifying
those those other drivers. But uh, I think we've we've
got our hands around it. And you know, the the
aera McLaren one, if it's a real wild card, if
it's beyond Ryan Hutteray as a wild card, I just
think we're going to have to hear that pretty soon soon.
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I just think it you're not gonna You're not going
to wait on that until pretty deep. If it's a
new driver, somebody coming out of the out of a
different formula.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
What if it's someone that is waiting to see what
other opportunities are out there. A couple of names I
did not mention. While I think it's I think Ryan Hunter,
Ray makes the most sense, and I think that's who
it's going to be, I can't say that with one
hundred percent confidence, So I will add in those others
that I that I talked about, like Connor, like Hildebrand,
like ey Lot, and what about Lenis or Renus? If
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Renus vk now surely he's got a full time seat,
he has to They would not have told dale Coin
we are not interested in coming back without something. So
he has to be somewhere. We don't think it's at foight,
so it has to be And who goes Hollinger? I
guess it could still be a Ray Hall, Letterman, Landingham,
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but we'll get to that, and we think we see
if they're making any changes, who that's going to be.
But if somehow Renus vk does not have a full
time seat, He's going to have his pick of places
and Linas Lunquist that could be. So this is the
other way McLaren could go. They could use it as
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a tryout, all right. Nolan Siegel is apparently on the
last year of his contract and they are probably going
to expect something from him this year. So if it
does not go well and they want to consider other options,
do they put Calumilot back in the car to think
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about twenty twenty seven or do they put Linas Lunquist
in the car to think about twenty twenty seven? So
all of those are still in play there. But yeah,
we have to know what else is going to happen
from the full time And you're right about Jacob Abel
so I think his best chance would be Foy full time.
Don't know what Kyle Khaled, who's going to test what
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his budget level is. I would think Jacob has the
ability for it to be more. If that doesn't happen,
if there is no full time opportunity, then yeah, I
would think someone would be interested, and I think they
would be motivated to try to find a proper Indy
five hundred situation that could be an extra ride with Foight.
Maybe they could revisit Coin. Don't know that they would.
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I don't see them spending to go back to where
they were bumped last year. But Coin now as a
partnership with Andretti, And what we don't know is how
deep is that partnership. Is it just for Dennis Hauger's
car or is everyone confident enough that that's going to go.
And remember they have Michael Cannon, which they did not
have for did they have him now? They got him
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after the after they did not have him for the
five hundred last year. So that's where I think things
are at at this point. Next topic, Former Penske managing
director Ron Razuski has joined Andretti Global. And I threw
around in engineer. The more I thought about that, I
mentioned a you know, team manager type. Makes sense that
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Ron might not be interested in being an engineer, and
I should have kind of. I also didn't want to
give him someone's job, which is sort of what he got.
He's sort of taking over for Rob Edwards, but Rob
is still going to be heavily involved in a management role.
What is Rob's title now? Chief Performance Officer and he'll
be more involved with everything they do, which with TWG
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Motorsports is a lot. So I don't think this is
necessarily a demotion for Rob Edwards. Oh I don't think
so at all. I don't think so. I think this
is taking someone who knows other forms of motorsport and
isn't a managing capacity. And this is what I did
get right, is that there's room. There's plenty of room
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at the end for more management types. But another veteran
engineer was recently telling me who's become more of a
technical director. He said, being the car engineer, the lead
in engineer. Our car is a young man's game or
a young woman's game, but it is a young person's game,
and it takes total devotion, and there becomes a time
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in life where you may not want to do that,
and you can run a program with a little more
time at night than you can just crunching numbers and
doing that. So that makes sense that this is the
perfect opportunity for Ron Razuski. So the band is back together.
Will Power has Ron Rezuski is a part of his
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program and this is a huge get for Andretti and
it's not great for Team Penske, No, just in the
competition standpoint, and they knew that, they knew that when
they hit. They let these guys go. Roger Penske decided,
I'm going to look at the big picture and I
need to think about image and what everybody's thinking. I'm
still not convinced. I don't know what happened. I don't
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know who was responsible. I don't know if they're being blamed.
I tend to think it was more. Roger just said,
I've got to make a start that this is not
going to be tolerated and whether you're guilty or not,
you're all gone. And that's what happened. Well, I think
what we've seen. I think the underlying theme here over
the last year is that good teams find room for
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good people. And we've seen it with Kyle Moyer, we've
seen it now with Ron Razuski, and there are other
examples in the Panic where beefing up your management is
not just replacing someone else, it's adding good people to
the program. And you know, I kind of I don't
want to just give Aaron McLaren credit, but I look
at Aaron McLaren's situation and I look at all the
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depth that they have in people who have great institutional
knowledge in the sport. And it's just like it seems
like every six months they add somebody else that adds
to the program. At some point it has to deliver
an NY five hundred win or a series championship, but
they put you know, they go into basically the last race.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
The season second and third points, or with the potential
to finish second and third points. That's a pretty good season,
especially when your Formula One program is working as well
as it does.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Now.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Not everybody has, you know, an alternative program that is
that is doing well. But I think if if you
look at overall how Zach Zach Brown has put that
program together, there's just they just have great depth in
their management and I think for years we kind of
underestimated that, you know, you needed a technical director and
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you needed a lead engineer, you needed it, you know,
but they just keep adding and that's good for the program.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
And thinking more about Rob Edwards, it's very possible that
Rob said hey, we need to get Ron Razuski and
other people are going to be trying to get him.
So I am a team player and if we need
to say he is leading the IndyCar operation. Let's do it.
There's plenty for me to do. Oh absolutely.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And and you know the other thing about Ron, in
addition to being just a smart guy, he's about us
calm to a program's needs. You know, I just saw
something on social media the other day. Don't be the
problem for your boss. Be the kind of the calming
person in your in your organization that just gets stuff done.
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That's that's Ron Razuski. He just gets stuff done. He's
not looking for show voting.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
He's not you know, speaking out of turn. He just
does his job. And you can't have too many of
those people.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's a big deal. It is a really big deal.
People are asking, well, right, Tim Sindric, you're on the clock.
I don't think Tim Sindrick, is that's different, a different scenario. Yeah,
And what we don't know? And I tweeted out something
that I think we might say for next week. There
was something I want to find actually what it was.
There was something on Awful announcing that.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
There is going to be.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Five unsolved sports mysteries we want Pablo Tory to find out.
There's a podcast. Pablotory is an ESPN Personalities off and
on pardon the interruption, and he's the guy that kind
of uncovered what might be a salary cap circumvention with
the Los Angeles Clippers and Kawhi Leonard, and there were
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a few things in there. Honestly, I didn't all find
that interesting in sport, but I tweeted something that might
be a good track side off season discussion most interesting
on unsolved mysteries in IndyCar And the first one that
comes to mind me is, I want to know what
happened at Saint Pete, who ordered the code read and
who knew about it in twenty twenty four, and then
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you knows someone else mentioned what happened this year in
the Indy five hundred. We'll save that for next week
or the week after. People want to send in some
more things, but that's one of those in that department
as well.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
That we find interesting.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah, yeah, okay, go ahead, go ahead, next up, because
we're going to try to run through a lot of
things in the hour that we have tonight. Testing gets
started tomorrow, yes, or twenty twenty six. There are a
few cars at mid Ohio. Neil's Colan, who had a
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really impressive second season in Indy next this year for Ganassi.
Those that don't pay attention. Neils came as a rookie,
ran at the back in twenty twenty four. Wasn't surprised
because he was basically jumping up from F four to
Indy Next, had all the budget in the world behind him,
did proper testing, ran most of the full season, and
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did about what you'd expect. Year two, he started running
in the top ten most of the time and sometimes
in the top five. He is going to get an
evaluation test in the Indy Car. He's not a candidate
to race next year. I don't think that's been announced,
but I have to believe he's doing another year in
Indy next or next season. Kaku Oda was announced yesterday
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with Meyer Shank Racing. I met him briefly. He has
run in the endurance races for Meyer Shank Racing. He
is a Honda driver. I don't believe he's a candidate
for a twenty twenty six seat either. Meyer Shank is
full but this is part of the He's a talented driver.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
He's running.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
I think he's third in the championship.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
He is won three races in super Formula which is
where is from there yeah, some guy named Alex Palo.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
He's pretty good and he didn't win that championship either.
I think he might have finished third in that championship,
so similar pedigree. I just remember hearing at the Rolex
that he is highly regarded, so he could be someone
for the future. I'm happy that Honda wants to put
him in IndyCar. Maybe that means they plan on staying
in IndyCar, or maybe it's just simply we want our
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drivers to drive as much as they can. You know,
maybe Formula One is something they're thinking about for him.
And I hear Felipe Nasser, that young up and comer,
is doing an evaluation test for Team Penske, so we'll
find out if Felipe Nasser has the goods. And this
is just simply using the system to what it is
because Felipe Naser is not full time and he's done
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this at least once before. I don't know what the
limit is or if maybe it has to have a
year separated between it. It's probably been a couple of
years and he was he drove I think a Carlin
car at Coda in preseason the year of the pandemic
in twenty twenty one. That was twenty twenty. But was
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that twenty twenty? I think in twenty twenty he was
under I think I got to go back to my notes.
I may be wrong about that, but he is a Poorschapenski,
very highly regarded sports car driver who has spent time
in Formula one. So this is an opportunity for Penske
to learn some things and still smart to have a
reserve driver.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yep, yeah, I think this is exact exactly that he's
not got a future in IndyCar in my opinion, to me,
he must have characteristics in his driving style that compares
favorably to other drivers they have, and therefore they look
for his feedback as an experienced driver who's driven a
lot of things. You know, it certainly beats just throwing
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somebody in the car who provided a check to cover
that event.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'll tell you this. Someone of importance told me last
year if I could choose someone to hire not worried
about upside and age, just right now, it's Felipe Nazar
for Indiecar. So I think he'd still do it if
offered the opportunity. But he's got a pretty good deal
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with being a Penske or a Porsche factory driver driving
for Porshapensk as well. Next up on the testing list
is what's coming up at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. And
we have it confirmed from Ray Hall Letterman that Mick
Schumacher is going to be in a car there.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
This is the road course.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
This is the road road course, sorry, the road course.
On Monday, October thirteenth, Marshall Prooded Racer wrote that Andretti
Global may test Indie next driver Lockey Hughes in an
evaluation run and let's see Aera McClaren may test Enzo
fit A Paldi at Sebring later in the month. I
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believe Enzo fit A Paldi is doing full season in
Indy next next season, and I know he was just
at a test at Autoban last week. So what they
had and I had some questions on this last week?
What was this test at Autobon. There were about I
think there were twelve cars, maybe fifteen drivers. Some just
did one day two day test. It was only for
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people who have not driven in in the next car before.
So there there was another F two driver that came over.
I let the team share the name and I'll be honest,
I didn't recognize the name. And then some drivers that
are potentially moving up from USF Pro two thousand and
I believe he was one of those in that last week.
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What else do we know as far as testing. Oh
and by the way, Enzo was pretty accomplished in LMP two,
But I think Schumacher one is the big one. And
there's also a test I think at Barber coming up
at some point.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
At some point I think, you know, we're still going
to see. We haven't got any details to share, but
there'll be an oval test at the Speedway. That's why
I wanted to kind of make sure everybody understood that
mix Schumacher was a road course test and there'll be
a couple other cars there with him, I'm sure, but
you know, some of these things, the teams are in
control of that information, so unless it leaks out, it's
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not like there's a list of names of people yet.
For particularly the Indie test, and I don't know the
scope of it. Couple of years ago that was like
I think maybe last year it was like nine all
ten teams, maybe nine or ten teams, and each one
had one car as opposed to everybody getting two or
three cars. It was just one driver. I think that
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was last year, but I think it'll be it might
even be a smaller field this year, so we'll see
how that shakes out.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
We know will Power won't be a part of that.
I did a screenshot of this one from a couple
of weeks ago, never got to it. John Jay Wards
seventy seven tweeted, will she just repeatedly go to the
Team Penske building and make coffee on the cureg machine
and remind them he still has a contract for three
and a half months, use the restrooms, fitness.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Center, et cetera. Same with Ron Rizziski. By the way,
he's not available. The press release from Andretti said he
would start January of twenty twenty six, so.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
It's still on gardening leave. He has a non compete yep.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Same with will and so you know, if if Team
Penske is part of a test at the speedway in
the fall here, probably this month, it won't be will Power.
I mean say it won't be willpower, but if Andretti
does as well, it won't be willpower. So he'll be
on the sidelines.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
What's the significance of Mick Schumacher. We're going to talk
about that next on track side. Hi, this is Poto
Award and you're listening to truck side all right, hustling
through some things here. Didn't get to finish up all
the testing stuff we ran long in the first segment.
Does Mick Schumacher testing with Ray Hall mean anything? I
have a thought you go first. So, first of all,
it kind of has two things. One, it is a
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huge opportunity for IndyCar and publicity because Mick wile maybe not,
I mean just because he's a Shoemacher, is a big deal.
I mean his dad still is huge fan base. Second
of all, I think if this goes well for him,
if he enjoys it, I think he's got the backing
to do that, and they have a seat potentially for him,
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and that would be in the thirty car that Devil
and d Francesco drove this year. I think that's we'll
have to see how it goes, but this would be
a good draw for IndyCar and I think could be
their answer in the thirty car as well. So the
question has been asked, is this just Rayhall taking advantage
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of an evaluation day to get some data like Penske does.
And my thought on that is it is not at all.
If it was, they would be doing it anywhere other
than the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course where they are
hooked up. They don't. Yes, you need to always keep
getting better, But if they're going to invest in a
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test day, they would do it at midd Ohio, they
would do it at Barber, they would do it at Sebring,
they would do it at any place other than the
Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This is real now. It simply could
be Mick Schumacher brought budget and said I want to
show what I can do, and the road course is
the most friendly to European drivers, easiest track to learn
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to show what you can do and get a feel
of the car. And he could be stating his intentions
that he wants to come here and look at other opportunities,
you know, the open seats with Coin or who goes
Holling or Foyd or whoever. But there's something I think
there's something potential to this, so we will keep an
eye on that. What else did I say? Okay, So
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the McLaren Alex Polow trial is underway in the UK.
There are good right ups on that in the Indie
Star with Nathan Brown, Racer dot Com with Marshall Pruitt.
We're probably going to learn some more things and we're
going to learn some salaries and it's it's.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Just the kind of juicy stuff we want to know.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
I don't think I mentioned this. Alex Polow is starting
to loosen up a little bit. So I went to
the banquet or the victory celebration here a few weeks
ago and Bob pocras, Yeah, Bob wrote some things on
Fox Sports dot Com as well, and Bob was there
and wrote some of these quotes down. He talked to
them before and upstairs on the day as he basically said, yeah,
(35:00):
I was a little bit of an idiot, but everybody
gave me another chance. And he just kind of makes
jokes about his bad decisions and how he's happy to
have another chance in that. So one of the things
that McLaren is arguing is that they had to pay
Poto Award more than they would have because they didn't
have Alex Polow. I don't know. I mean, yes, there
(35:20):
was more importance to keep him, but I think they
would have wanted to keep Poto Award anyway. You know
out there is everything Nolan Siegel is getting paid, what
Christian Loonguard is getting paid, what the bonuses were involved
in all of this, and I'm a lot of it.
(35:45):
I think is going to come down to the F
one opportunity. I think that's what the Polo side is
going to be arguing we were led to believe there
was an F one opportunity. McLaren is saying, no, there
was no promise of that, because that's what Polo has said.
Once I learned that Pastre was the real deal and
there was not going to be any open seat between
him and Norris, I'm not interested. I want to stay
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with the best Indy car team. That's clearly was part
of it for him. And then that's where they're going
to have to get into what was written down and
what was verbally agreed to, and then how much money
they lost from loss of sponsors by not having plow.
Is that his responsibility for that and does it come
into play that he signed with McLaren the first time
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around when he had a binding contract with Ganassi that
was ignored. McLaren will say that's on the driver. He
told us he was free.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I just know the legal fees are going to be
high in this. Did you see saw jim Boyle's there.
Saw Jimmy Boyle's there hanging out very tight with Gassi, Yeah,
very tight with Ganassi and I on my side, and
they've got a lot of good lawyers on that team,
I'm sure. But that's going to be fun stuff. I mean,
I know it's not fun for those going going through it,
and Alex has got a mess to kind of clan
(37:00):
up here. But I think we was race. Fans will
learn some things and it could be entertaining.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
All right.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I've got some tweets that I'll try to get to
in the final segment. Wanted to mention the loss of
someone that fans may not know, but people in the
Indy car community would know. Chris Bucher passed away after
a long battle photographer recently with co Force. One of
those guys that I'll be honest, I didn't know. Well,
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just someone a friendly face that you waved to and
said hello, I know you know.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Chris, Yeah, one of the one of the really good photographers,
one of the great people. He actually many of our
listeners know. Mark Lynch Well from the Burger Bash markin
and Chris Mark and his brother Matt grew up with
with Chris, and they were longtime buddies. In fact, this
is funny that you know. It's so it's Matt and
(37:53):
Mark Lynch and and Chris Bucher and another friend of
theirs named John. So so they identified themselves for a
long time as Matthew, Mark Luke and John Buke and John. Sorry, Matthew,
Mark buch and John and John.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Okay, it still works.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah, But Chris a great was a great man and
such a great photographer. And you've seen so much of
his work. His indy car work I actually think is
not as good as some of his artistic work. His
artistic work is unbelievable. And you know indy cars. You
try to shoot race cars as you as you can,
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but they're fast moving. So it's a it's a huge
loss for the community. And I saw a lot of
people in the Indianapolis community reached out about him, people
I didn't know had crossed paths with him. That's that's
always the mark of what a person meant to a community.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Thoughts go out to Chris his friends and family, all Right,
what we missed is coming up next on trackside.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Hi, this is Felix frozen Quist and you're listening to trackside.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Okay, final second meant what we missed and I'll admit
if it happened today, I might have missed it. So
here's one of the benefits to being what is my title, the.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
Director of.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Business Relationships, revenue, whatever you want to call with Jackson
Lee Racing. So I was invited to play at Cricket
Stick today, which is one of the top golf courses
in the Indianapolis area with some potential partners of Jackson's
next year. Had a great time and have not looked
at social media in the last eight hours or so.
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Plausibly Live is how we did. The first couple of segments.
Tried to talk Kurt into coming in this evening.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
You know he doesn't do nights.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
But I did see Adam Stern post something that the
Greater Cleveland Sports Commission sent out a survey to area
leaders that states that there is an exciting opportunity that
we are assessing for northeast Ohio the return of IndyCar
to downtown Cleveland in twenty two twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
So there you go.
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Adam Stern of SBJ also says the IndyCar is exploring
a potential street course race in Cleveland, according to a
survey sent to local leaders. So yeah, I think that's,
you know, part of the partnership with Fox IndyCar as well.
They're looking at where we can can we go in
major cities and create events.
Speaker 4 (40:23):
So I find that interesting.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
What else, Let's go to the Twitter inbox Ken add
one k Moose.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
You know Moose always gets you to the head of
the line.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
S What would be a good street course race to
attend next IndyCar season?
Speaker 4 (40:38):
One? To go to one?
Speaker 3 (40:38):
I've only been to OVAL's and road courses best for
our first timer.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Good views of the.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
Track, nice fan experience. So I love Saint Pete. There
are not a lot of ton just GA views, although
I think there are some kind of next to what's
is it a convention center. It's kind of where the
media is center is. You can stand out there and
see a few things. I'd still maybe think about trying
(41:05):
to get a grandstand seat in that.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Turn one area.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
That's just a fantastic view. But I love Saint Pete.
I love Long Beach. Those are the two as far
as street courses with just walk to a lot of.
Speaker 4 (41:18):
Things in the area, you're going to run into people
as well.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
A few tweets about my idea of you know, the
biggest unsolved mysteries.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
In IndyCar that we'll we'll get to next week as well.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Hector Serrano asks, is the FIA going to get the
call to take over IndyCar officiating?
Speaker 4 (41:37):
What's the word on this? It's almost October. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
I don't know what the plan is for. That's one
of the tbds TBAs. How are they taking this to
a third party? It seems like the FIA might be expensive,
but that also would seem like that would be one
of the possibilities as well.
Speaker 4 (41:55):
IndyCar can or I should have asked Kurt this. Hopefully
Kurt listens to this part of the segment. Ken R.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Anderson eighty two, I've heard there's some renderings out there.
When do we expect the new car renderings to be made.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Available to the public?
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Also a bit late, congrats to you and the resident
driver for a great showing at IMS.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Thank you, Ken.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
So I'll tab that for Kurt to ask, he needs
to walk down the hall and say and ask when.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Will we the public see what the plans are.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Trill Power says, why didn't the Richmond Race return to
the schedule after COVID. They were scheduled to race there
in twenty but COVID altered the schedule.
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Was it a promoter events? The answer is always money.
I think they were concerned.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
About being able to sell the requisite number of tickets
and sponsorship to pay the promoter cost.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
They found an out and they took it. I think
the track.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
President also changed at that time as well. I'd love
to see it come back. Don't know if it's in
the pipeline or not. We're out of time. We'll see
you next Monday night, I believe, Monday at seven on
track side ninety three five one oh seven five The
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