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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is track side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee
on ninety three to five and one oh seven five
the Fan.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So far, so good.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
We have a lot of things that we've wanted to
try for a little while coming to attract we're actually
going to raise that, so I think we got a
few of those things done. We had a minor issue,
but we got that resolved. Heard a little bit with
the red towards the end of the session, which we
could have gotten a full run on the new tires,
just to kind of feel what that's like. We have
a pretty good baseline from what Miles and my teammates
have told me so far about the car, but just
really excited to keep progressing, get through our run plan
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and ultimately go back to news to see how that
works together with the changes we made.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yea, I think the test day is going well.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
First time here at IMS super special track, so I'm
enjoying it.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
The team's great to work with. We're testing many things today.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
We're running that new gearbox, so yeah, I think it's
a new thing on the in the next car, which
is the gearbox, and I think all teams, you know,
are trying to get as much data as possible before
the start the next season. So that's what we're doing today.
And yeah, driving IMS is very cool. It's a very
fun track to drive. It's not the oval, it's the
road course, but you's still you know, you're here at IMS,
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driving this legendary track. It's very special for me. So
I'm super happy to be here and very happy to
be working with.
Speaker 6 (01:15):
Him d anytime you're hear it kind of gives you
these chills and these goosebumps, you know, yesterday through the
track walk, I was just kind of like staring at
the stadium, like becoming as a driver, you always kind
of imagine yourself racing in the five hundred here, one of.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
The most historic races in the world.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
So it's definitely no matter how many times you come back,
it's always grateful to come back to it.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Always very surreal. I think we've come to the end
of our activity at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. This year
you heard from some of the young drivers getting an opportunity,
some for the first time in an Indie next car.
You heard from USF Pro two thousand champion Max Garcia,
who I think is still sixteen years old. He'll be
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seventeen next year and running in Indy next. Enzo Fittipaldi,
you recently tested an IndyCar and I think is going
to be full time in Indy next next year, and
then one of the championship favorites entering his third season.
Miles Row Hello, thanks for joining us trackside ninety three
to five one oh seven five the fan in Indianapolis
(02:15):
or other parts. I'm Kevin Lee Kurkkavin is with US
landon Koons is in our studio. We are dockside for
my portion of the program, and with that we have
the ability to talk to IndyCar and NASCAR announcer from
Fox Sports, Jamie Little. We're here doing what we often
do in the cooler portions of the year, the Fort
(02:38):
Lauderdale International Boat Show for Fox Sports that will appear
i think starting December seventh, is the first of many
airings on FS one and Kurt I am the producer
for Jamie, so this is an all female cast. Will
Christian Kristin Beide who worked with us on the last
couple of imsiraces for NBC. They are our quote talent
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and when you're not on air, we like to use
that word talent. Because the announcers actually hate that word.
So Jamie is my talent for the weekend, and I
am in charge of scripts, information, fact checking, lighting, I
don't know how to do lighting and whatever as her
producer for this program. So all the best to Jamie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
So my son is he does direct some things in
LA but he mostly is their lead producer of a
production company, which means taking care of the talent. Sometimes
that is people like Mariah Carey or others of high
profile and they have a lot of needs. I'm sure
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Jamie doesn't have as many needs as Mariah Carey, but
it does mean making sure you know you've got enough
snacks and making sure that the chair is right for
the talent. So let's make sure Jamie has enough snacks.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah. I'm not really even in charge of that stuff.
We have people for that. I'm in charge of content,
which is scary because unfortunately, all I know about these
boats is I can't afford any of them. So between
the two of us, we do some research and make
the best of it. But it's a fun event. So
we always see some people in the racing community here
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that come by. So this is what we're doing for
this week and it'll be fun to talk with Jamie
about NASCAR this weekend in our IndyCar experience and some
more coming up. So a few things to get to.
We're going to start with what we had on track yesterday,
and we had young drivers at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway,
and we've actually had some more news. It seems like
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if you're an IndyCar team and you are not participating
in Indy Next, you're being left out. So we had
a bit of a surprise. I did not know this
was coming. Cape Motorsports is not affiliated with Andretti anymore.
It's now ed Carpenter Racing. So Ed Carpenter Racing and
Java House and Splenda have done a partnership including Jay Howard,
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so this is like the triumvirate of things. So I
forget what the exact names of the teams are, but
Cape Motorsports partner is going to be Ed Carpenter Racing.
So now in Indy Next, those that have affiliations or
teams Andretti and Ganassi and who goes Hollinger Racing have
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outright teams. Ed Carpenter Racing has a partnership with Cape.
Aj Foyd Racing maybe this has happened since our last show.
I can't recall, but they are now running or they
are involved in a two car operation with HMD and
Cusick Morgan Motorsports Don Cusick has had a partnership with
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Indy five hundred teams and now they have a partnership
with HMD. So there are some advantages. I did ask,
and what you get if you're an Indie car team
is you get an extra test day for the entire team,
so that Carpenter Racing will get an extra test day
for Rossi and for Rasmussen. And what I can't remember
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is if they must bring along the Indie next driver
or not. I think that can. That doesn't necessarily have
to happen, but that's the specific benefit or at least
one of them. And then from a commercial partnership, I
think this is good for Ted Geloff and Java House
and Splenda because they're going to have their brands sprinkled
around the paddock. In fact, at the USF Pro Championships test,
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my son Jackson was coaching a young driver, Indy Anderson,
running for Jay Howard. On Sunday. He had a fully
decked out Java House and Splendid car they've already got
a couple of the cars wrapped in the Jay Howard,
USF Juniors and USF two thousand program.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Well, I also think, you know, it's beneficial for the
organization from an employee standpoint. You know, Ed Carpenter Racing
is about to build or is in the process of
moving up to Grand Park, which is on the north
side of Indy. It's in the little town of Westfield,
which is no longer a little town, I guess you
could say, and having just another program to hire employees,
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to keep employees busy, just to you know, expand their
their business footprint is really beneficial. If you're keeping score.
The teams that now don't have the IndyCar Series, teams
that do not have an Indie Next program, Dale Coin Racing,
Ray Hall Letterman, Lanagan Meyer, Shank Racing, those are the
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Honda teams without an affiliation, and then on the Chevy side,
Eryl McLaren and Team Penske.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
So it's about half.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And I was surprised as well by the Ed Carpenter program,
But the more I thought about it, the more it
just makes sense. As for the reasons I just stated
in their new expanding organization up on the north side
of Eddie, so good for Indie Next. We saw twenty
four cars at the Griffiths test on Monday, and a
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twenty four car field is going to be pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yep. Yeah, lots of synergies between all of this, and
it makes it easier for the junior teams to sell
their programs when they can not only say there's a
direct path, but more just for commercial reasons or a
cool factor that you have access to an IndyCar team.
And for the IndyCar team they get to help train
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not necessarily drivers. I think it's more important for crew people,
for young engineers to get some hands on lead engineering
experience at either the Indie Next or the USF level,
a way to train mechanics. You know, if you have
some aptitude, sometimes they will put you directly in IndyCar,
but they prefer not. So this is a chance. And
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what I've always tell young people in any business, go
where you can do more, And if you go to
a USF program, you can do a lot more where
you might have one specific job on Indiecar team and
you kind of learn some skill sets of helping to
manage a program rather than just be in charge of
the dampers or in charge of the right front of
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the car. So all good. As far as what we
saw on track yesterday, as we kind of expected, Andretti
is really strong. They had the top three times Sebastian Murray,
who has moved fully to Andretti. He was with Andretti
Cape last year. He was fastest than Max Taylor, who
is now with Andretti, and Josh Pearson, who is entering
his third year it is with Andretti and is one
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of those championship favorites. Nikita Johnson was with the Cape
ed Carpenter team. He was fourth quick. Alessandro Detulio, who
had some success in I think in USF Pro two thousand,
was next quick. Lockeye Hughes was six miles row, Bryce
Aaron and so on and so forth. Those twenty four
drivers are not necessarily the twenty four for the season.
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I'm sure not every one has been signed. Some we're
just somewhat auditioning for one, seeing what the program is like,
seeing how they do, you know, probably needing secure some
more budget. But my best guesstimate is we've got about
twenty confirmed. There are not many seats left at this
point and they will continue to do testing. I think
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they're at Barber. It's not next Monday. I think it's
in a couple of weeks. A couple of weeks from yesterday.
They have a test to Barber and they do some
testing over the off season as well. As far as
Indy Car, I've heard there is some testing going on
at Phoenix with just a couple of cars. Yes, that's
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the not a whole lot else.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, that's the sixth and seventh in November, and I
believe that's Scott Dixon at Alexander Rossi. It's a Chevy
and a Honda. You know, they both have extensive experience
at Phoenix. Dixon's won a couple times there. He's probably
raced there, I don't know five, six, seven times. Rossi's
run there three times, was on the podium the last
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time we raced there in twenty eighteen. Of course, he
made his his IndyCar debut in twenty sixteen and that
was the second race of his career, and so he
got indoctrinated pretty quickly to short track oval racing in
the IndyCar side, which he had never done, obviously, being
a European path driver for our sport, and so that'll
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be good, and they'll have an open test. I'm sure
I've not seen dates. I've not even seen confirmation that
there will be an open test at Phoenix, but it
just stands to reason that race is too early in
the season. It's a place that most teams and drivers
those combinations haven't raced, and Firestone will want to see,
you know, just how those things go. So we'll probably
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see that. I would think, you know, early February, mid February,
so we'll go from there.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
You know, everybody will be at Seabring at some point,
but that always has to be split up because that
little short you can't do twenty seven twenty five cars
on all at the same time, so a lot of
times they do half one day, half the next, or
it could be split up from morning to afternoon. And yeah,
Phoenix makes a lot of sense for a full field test.
The other thing to watch, and I don't know if
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and when this is happening, but if ray Hall let
him in, Lanigan and Mick Schumacher are going to move
forward together then and I think Mick said this, you know,
the next thing is an oval, so can they get
him to Nashville or one of the other approved tracks.
You know, Homestead may still be an approved track Texas,
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Indy Car doesn't necessarily have to race there, but something
a mile and a half would probably be better than
the short role oval of Phoenix that it's a little
bit closer to Indianapolis and covers a lot of bases,
So that's one. I don't know if and when that
is happening, but I'll be watching that. I think this
could be really big in the commercial business side of things.
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Droplight was announced yesterday as a partner for Ray Haul
Letterman Land again, multi year deal. I think, much bigger
than what it has been, and it may be attached
to Louis Foster's car. But budget is budget. You know,
if Graham's car is set financially and now Loui's car
is set, you know, all of a sudden, you're all right,
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we're getting pretty close. And that's what the goal for
teams will be is to have all three cars or
all of their cars fully paid for. And I'm sure
the hope is with someone with the experience and the
name of Mick Schumacher, that we can help sell that.
So we'll watch on that help me what else? What
else are we still wading for? I think you have
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made a little list of latest of what's still open.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, I think I really count five cars. I know
two of them Prema. We don't really know what happens.
There are those cars going to field in twenty twenty six,
but you know, their mechanics are still working, the people
are still employed. That gives me. I mean it is
almost November. I think that that gives promise for a
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return of that two car teams. So there's two cars
we still need to know about dale Coin Racing second car.
You've obviously alluded to the Ray haul car. So there's
two cars that from a full time standpoint need to
be resolved. Then we still don't know what Humkos Hollinger
is doing with its second car, although we think it
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could be Sting Ray, could be counter Daily, could be
somebody else. And then, while we haven't heard from aj
Foyt Racing officially on Kyle Collett, everything I get tells
me he's going to be on the grid. He's tested
in pretty impressive fashion twice, and so we still you know,
we kind of keep that as a little bit in pencil,
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but you know, for all intents and purposes, probably an
ink And we need to see what the second car
at Indy looks like for Dryan Raibold, and I think
that will once we kind of know that there's really
as I look at India only programs and this is
a discussion for another day, there's a lot of a
lot of announcements still to come. I mean, do we
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know Elio's coming back from Meyer Shank? I think we do.
Is Ed Carpenter going to run again? I think he is?
You know where what does Aero McLaren do? Is that Hunterray?
Or is it not Hunter Ray?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Then does you know some other some other situations out there?
Is Thoto indeed going to run for Ray? Holly just
tested at the speedway, It would make sense and he's
obviously very quick at the speedway. So there's some of
those things still Marco Marco or herd it at Andretti,
what does that fourth car look like there? So there's
still several Indie programs to resolve or at least to
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be announced, and just a few of the full time
cars at this point.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I think that fourth Andretti car is one we need
to see confirm My best guess is that before Michael
Andretti exited the organization, mostly that he helped secure a
two year agreement for Marco and then he's good for
next year. But we're going to need to see that
otherwise it's still TBD at this point because let's be honest,
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it has not gone well for Marco the last few years.
So from a performance standpoint where they at, you know,
what is the motivation for Marco? What is the motivation
for the team to continue doing that? But that may
already be locked in. If it is not, that becomes
a premier seat and quite interesting today. You know, this
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was asked after it was announced for Colton Hurda moving
towards the F one path. And by the way, I
forgot to mention this last week, but it's now confirmed
that he is doing F two with one of the
top teams, high Tech, and what was confirmed this morning,
So we wondered would he possibly do a one off
with the ND five hundred. His schedule is clear to
do that, So the debate would be, well, do you
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want to take away from his focus of what the
full task is? Well, clearly they are willing to take
away from the focus. Colden Hurda was announced today as
the endurance driver in the Imsilweather Tech Championship in the
Cadillac GTP for Wayne Taylor Racing, So that means he
will run the Rolex twenty four Sebring and Petite Lamar
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races in late January, a two week commitment before F
one starts in mid March, also before F one starts,
but there would be preseason testing going on for F
one in F two and then in October in the
middle of the F one season, near the end of
the F two season, so it's clear that they have decided.
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We do not have to say Colden Hurda is doing
the Formula one World and nothing else. Also, sometimes it
comes down to dollars and cents. Cadillac TWG Dan Towers
are paying Colden Hurda. I would imagine his salary that
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he was getting an IndyCar, which was reported to be
the highest, maybe six and a half million, maybe more,
maybe a little bit less. Most other drivers in F
two are bringing three plus million dollars, so that's a
nine and a half million dollar swing. We got to
get the most out of this employee. Let's put him
in the sports car for three races also with Cadillac.
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That helps out. And for those that don't know, TWG Motorsports,
the Dan Towers Group has a major financial stake in
Wayne Taylor Racing. That happened a few years ago with
Anne Tretty, so they are still involved. That is still
the part of the program in the empire for TWG,
which includes Spiro Motorsports and NASCAR formulae, the Dodgers, the Lakers, Chelsea,
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on and on and on. So it can't rule that
out whether Cold would do the five hundred. It's one
to watch. By the way, is Game three of the
World's He's over yet, because oh man, I'm glad. I
gave up in the eighth inning.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I watched the ninth inning and thought now and then
they played nine more so and they're about to take
the field already. So it was a short night, short
day for the World Series, Budge. But yeah, they went
a long time last night, three am, almost Eastern time.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
So okay. It reminds me of something I wanted to
talk about. Was watching F one practice this past weekend,
and I greatly enjoy when Jacques Villeneuve is a part
of the F one broadcast, and I'm somewhat surprised he's
still invited back. I know he did some last year
and he is massively blunt, no filter, isn't worried about
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hurting feelings. We'll say things like this driver simply isn't
good enough. They need to move on. And the conversation
came up about what's Red Bull going to do, and
he was saying, they don't really have any good options
from within. These people have shown that they're not good enough.
I think he was talking specifically about Liam Laws in
most point, and they said, well, who are you going
to get? And he said, you should go get Pullo
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from IndyCar, which brings us back to the conversation and
the rumors that were coming around in August. And oh,
by the way, I forgot to congratulate Nathan Brown of
the Indianapolis Star, and unfortunately we're losing him on the
IndyCar beats. But as much as I think this is
the pinnacle and this is what I want to do,
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working for the local professional football team and covering that
is probably the higher profile assignment. So he is moving
on to one of the Colts beat writers and we'll
still see him doing some things around the Indy five
hundred and a little bit of IndyCar. But that job's open.
By the way, Kurt, do you want your old job back?
Speaker 1 (20:43):
That funny they did ask no figure they would no,
I don't want my old job back. But the other
thing about Nathan is he now gets a partner, so
he has somebody to help him cover the colts where
he really didn't have anybody to help him cover IndyCar.
And as we know, it is pretty much twenty four
to seven. There's about a two week break at Christmas.
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That's about the only time where news isn't happening, and
you get to work daytime hours. The NFL beat is
better than the Pacers beat because you're not working until
one am most of the time. And the travel is oh,
pretty much about twenty days a year, you know, eight
or nine road games two days apiece. So that's a
good get for Nathan. So congratulations.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
But I bring him up because you know, the rumor
was coming around about Polo having an option to go
to Formula one, and it was serious and he actually
I forget the wording, but he wrote about it, and
knowing Nathan, he didn't just take it from the same
people that were telling me this. You know, I had
people in the paddock saying, oh, it's happening, Polo is gone,
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people that should know what's going on. I think, knowing Nathan,
he needed more than that. And I don't know what
his sourcing is and what his contacts are in Formula one,
but I think there is likely something to it. Was
it ever close to happening and which side most wanted it?
I don't know this very well. May have been coming
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from the Red Bull side, and Polo might have shut
it down, or Ganassi might have shut it down, but
it just seems obvious. Now money always comes into it.
And now we have since had a confirm that Ganassi
is basically backing Polo in this suit with McLaren And
you know, one theory was, well, maybe Red Bull is
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willing to take over that liability. Now when you think
about that from Red Bulls side, as good as Alex
Polow might be, is he worth forty million? That might
be hard to do. But what if he's free and clear.
What if he wins this suits and Ganassi is not
on the hook and there's still a buyout, and then
Red Bull is not needing to pay that much it's
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just paying Ganassi handsomely for the buyout, and it can
still be true when Polo and Ganassi say, I don't
know why people bring this up because he's perfectly happy.
I believe he is, but everyone reserves the right to
explore things. Do I think it's happening. I do not.
But if you just look at who's the best available,
it's Alex Polo. And if I'm Red Bull or their
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affiliate team, I want Alex Polo. He's the only gop
hate that might be able to drive a car like
Max for Stappin, he's the best. I would want to
find out. This is a series Indy car which is
massively even, and he's crushing everyone. I would want to
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see what he might do. Now, Polo might say, no,
I'm content. I'm content, I like winning and I'm going away.
So I tend to think this is more coming from
the F one side, And there's a reason why they
just again they said, well we're going to announce by
Mexico City. They didn't do it. They're stalling. They want
to wait as long as they can. Is it because
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they want to see if there's.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Any way that they can get Alex below could be
a couple quick thoughts on Alex I went back and
kind of looking at the season stuff. At Milwaukee, he
outqualified the field by two tenths of a second on
a short oval one mile track. Two tenths of a
second at Milwaukee. That's pretty impressive. Secondly, I was with
him during the IMS test the other day and I
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was just I was just couldn't believe how built, how
rock solid he is these days, and bigger he really
has gotten bigger. And anyway, just a couple quick observations.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
One of the other interesting notes we saw out of
this McLaren trial where people are taking strays and we're
learning all kinds of things. Rio here at Kawa, a
Toyota factory driver we learned through this paid three point
five million dollars to take part in free practice one
for McLaren unbelieved in twenty three point five million dollars
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to do a forty five or an hour minute practice
where he got basically nine laps or whatever it was.
I don't know how they adjudicate this because things like that,
if Polow would have been available, they would have not
collected that money, yep. And you know they would have
not collected the Nolan Siegel money that they've collected, that
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some of that has come out, and so on and
so forth. You know, the f one thing I've seen
this comment in their world they really need to add
an extra pit stop to start their races. Are struggling
again for entertainment. One pitstop races are not it. They're
going to need to figure that out. And the more
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and more I think about this Apple deal, I also
understand they're smarter than I am, and maybe the messaging
on all of our Apple devices is going to bring
in viewership. But I think this is fantastic for Indy
Car in any other sport that has a traditional television
contract for right now, there is a limit to how
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many streaming services people will get. I am fascinated at
what the number is going to be next year. But
it's not going to be one point three million people watching,
and it's not going to be take a million off
of that, and it's.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Not going to be ESPN showing highlights and talking about it.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's just not yep. Okay, So what else have we
not covered? We've got a couple of more minutes I
think left in this segment. What else do we have
that we need to knock out before we chat with
Jamie Little. I don't know if I mentioned it or
didn't go ahead. Well, I did see that Daytona is
going to move back a week. They're worried about the
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Super Bowl moving and they don't want to be on
the same weekend, So their season is going to start
a little bit later, starting in twenty twenty seven. They've
already got a date for the Daytona five hundred and
twenty twenty seven that will be February twenty first, to
avoid I head to head clash with the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Did I mention that all I am tickets are now
on sale?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
That's really mentioning.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I think that's big, and it does show two sports
car races in the fall, plus all the traditional dates
that you know we know to be true around the
Indy five hundred and the NASCAR weekend and so forth.
So all those tickets, the Sancio Grand Prix, Miller Like
Carbon Day, Legends Day, the five hundred Cores, Light Snake Pit,
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all those things, vintage racing on the twenty twenty first
of June. So all those tickets are on sale now
at IMS dot com.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Few questions via the Xbox. Christensen says, what are the
plans for Penske entertainment if the captain is no longer involved?
As Fox pursue at one hundred percent stake, what happens
to Team Penske. These are all questions that we cannot answer.
Not that we're avoiding it, but we don't know and
probably only few people know what the succession plan is.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well, not only that, it's it's so complicated that that
I guess I'd be surprised. You know, how Team Penske
goes in the future might be another story. But the
essence of the speedway I think stays in the Penske family.
But it's really hard to say. I mean, there's who
would have just even what six years ago? Could you
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have predicted where we're at today? You can imagine six
more years.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Greg is very involved, it's more than just Roger. His
son is very involved in the racing business at this point.
Mohammed says, because we're at in the off season, some
things I'd like to see all cars have onboard cameras.
How can a big series like IndyCar just have a
few We need to see in the races on TV.
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The fuel percentage and seeing who is on which tire
for the whole race, not moments. So I would like
to see and I know everyone would like to see
an onboard and that is being efforted, but it also
costs money. But I think that is a goal to happen.
I don't know that it's going to happen next year,
but we'll probably keep getting more and more on boards.
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So when it comes to the graphics like that, you
know it's there's no right or wrong way. But one
thought is you can only put so much information on
the screen, so that's why it often gets flipped back
and forth. I think there is an argument that you'd
like to see what tire they are on at all times,
but do you have to and then you want to
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show other things. It just gets to be a little
bit much. But that's a consideration and the fuel percentage.
So here's my opinion, and it's only opinion. I don't
want to know. And this is something I've been thinking
about in imsiraces that now it's showing a percentage of
energy and I don't like that. I like the uncertainty
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and us guessing and the drama. Are they going to
make it? I don't want to see that he has
three percent left and he can still do that one
last lap, So I would prefer that remain a bit
of an unknown. It's not all not everyone agrees, and
I'm okay with that. It's a competitive advantage too. That's
fun to you know, people make decisions based on estimations
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of other competitors, and so I think that's a competitive,
a competitive thing that you know, there's no reason for
us to know if he's down to three percent. Let's
just let's just let it play out. Maybe this is
self serving because I like to have a purpose on
pitt Lane to go up and ask the engineer, hey,
can you make it? Knowing he might be lying to me.
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But that's all part of the fun of the game.
Whover's the most honest, who has the best poker face?
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, I mean we got to leave some things to
the imagination. I think that's a great one. It doesn't
change our viewership in terms of, you know, our interest
in the event, so we don't need to know that.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Doug Ivy twenty twenty five says should be a topic
on this week on track Side is twenty twenty five.
Penske's worst year Across motorsports since nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Okay, I'm glad, he said, since night ninety nine, because
it doesn't get any The worst year was nineteen ninety nine.
This year does not compare to nineteen ninety nine. It
just doesn't. They lost to.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Drive vertically an IndyCar. It clearly is statistically. I don't
know about NASCAR. Yes, they don't have anybody in the
final four, but they still had some moments. They won
the weather Tech Championship, so they still won a championship.
It was yeah for them, probably was their worst year,
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but their worst year is still better than a lot
of people's really good years. So that's going to be
one of the great stories. How do they bounce back?
It's still I still expect to see more personnel changes
and assignments clarified before next year. And Lynn underscore IndyCar
says well, dale Coin announce his second driver by Halloween.
(31:50):
Who do you think it will be? I believe, he
said on a broadcast. So he's made that promise. It's
going to happen. And I hear that they still want
to have Halloween is tough, Halloween is fried. I don't
know that it's going to happen by Halloween. But I
do think it's going to happen by mid novemberish yep, yeah, okay,
all right, Jamie Little and Grojean would still be a
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decent bet, is it. I don't know. We're just guessing
with Dale. I'm going to say it's I'm going to
say it's not Roma at this point. All right, I'm
gonna say it's going to be someone else, all right,
is my best guest? All right, Jamie Little joins us
in a moment on Trackside. Hi, this is Alexander Rossi
and you're listening to Trackside. Trackside continues Stockside for the
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day in the evening ninety three to five, one oh
seven to five the fan Kevin Lee in Fort Lauderdale,
and I have my Fox Sports teammate Jamie Little here,
who will be calling the Championship Truck Series race the
NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series on Friday night on FS one.
She's also one of the hosts for the Fort Lauderdale
International Boat Show and part of our Indy Car on
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Fox team as well. So we've got a lot of
things we can talk about. First of all, are you
prepared for me to be responsible for how you look
on television. I am your field producer for this fine
program you are.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
This's going to be fun.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Obviously you've been part of it as long as you know,
way before I was even here. But we've never actually
worked together in the field, so I think it's going
to be a lot of fun. I mean, it doesn't
get better than this, does it.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Kevin? You come down here.
Speaker 7 (33:20):
We're literally surrounded by multimillion dollar boats and.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
It's absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 7 (33:25):
It's a little chilly at home, so I don't mind
being down in Fort Lauderdale for a few days.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
So if I write it, Jamie will say it, stay
classy San Diego and stay classy Fort Lauderdale. I think
the first edition of this show, I believe I heard
December seventh on FS one, and there are many many
riairs on FS one and FS two over the winner.
All right, let's talk NASCAR. What's really interesting right now
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is the debate over the championship Formats and the Cup
is one thing, but in Infinity and the truck series,
it all comes down to one race has been one
driver and each series that has been massively dominant. What's
the reaction going to be if those two dominant drivers
don't win the championship this weekend in Phoenix, it won't
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be good.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
You know, it seems like NASCAR race fans, you just
can't make anybody happy right now. They're just for some reason,
there's so much negativity out there. It's like we've had
this playoff format for so many years now, but all
of a sudden, everybody wants it change. And I understand,
you know, my personal opinion, I would like to see
the final round be multiple races, because one race it
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just isn't fair. You blow an engine something out of
your control. Like Corey Heim and the truck series a
couple of years ago, he was wrecked, nothing to do
with himself or their performance, their truck, and that could
happen again here on Friday night. They have one shot
at it. Corey Heim has dominated, he has rewritten those
the storybooks, you know, the staff books are all corey
Heim now eleven wins on the season.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
But he could go in.
Speaker 7 (34:55):
There on Friday night and something could happen at the
drop of the green flag. So I would like to
see it improved, you know, in some capacity. And it
sounds like NASCAR is working on that. But to your point,
if he doesn't win the championship, it's going to be crazy.
I wouldn't want to work in radio on Monday. People
would be lighting him up in Saturday with Connor Zillach,
She's done the same thing. I mean, he is an
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incredible talent. He's a generational talent. He has dominated this
year in Exfinity and it's his championship and if he
gets taken out, whoses the championship, it won't be good
for NASCAR fans.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Now in the Cup Series, when you consider the track
and recent performance, do we have a favorite in the
final four?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
Gosh, it's hard to say.
Speaker 7 (35:35):
Obviously, Kyle Larson has won the championship by winning there
before William Byron I feel like he's good anywhere. But
then Denny Hamlin has the most experience in this situation,
you know, being under the gun and coming to Phoenix
and knowing what's on the line. And then you have
Chase Briscoe who's just like, you know, this is icing
on the cake. His first year at Joe Gibbs Racing,
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they've got three wins this year.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
It's like, let's go out and see what we can do.
And by the way, he's.
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Won Phoenix before, so there's no clear cut favorite at
this point.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
I don't think I admit I'm a little bit biased
towards Chase because he's such a nice young guy and
he came from so humble origin sleeping on the couch,
sweeping floors. Has just made his opportunities. I think this
would be one of the greatest stories that we've seen
where he's come from to have a chance to win
a championship. He's an Indiana guy, by the way, for
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those that don't know.
Speaker 7 (36:25):
Absolutely he's a Hoosier and right now it's good to
be in sports in Indiana. I just feel like all
signs point to go and win. But I'm with you.
I keep talking about our colts and the Pacers, what
they did last year, the fever. I you football, and
now you've got Chase Briscoe who just want to race
two weeks ago and punched his ticket to the championship run.
It's incredible. We knew how talented he was, but he
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wasn't able to showcase that until he came to Gibbs
and he has this organization around him. But I think
it would be a huge story for him. To your point,
I mean, all these drivers find their way to Cup
through different ways, different avenues, but this guy comes from
such humble beginnings, but his world has been racing and
to get this opportunity, he didn't come with a big check.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
He is there based on talent.
Speaker 7 (37:08):
Performance and personality and he's just one of the good ones.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Jamie Little is joining us. She'll be on the call
for the NASCAR Trucks race on Friday Night on FS
one part of our IndyCar on Fox team for a
couple of events big ones, Saint Pete and the Indy
five hundred this year. What was it like to get
back in the IndyCar world, not all the time, but
enough to kind of all right, yeah, I know these people,
I know what's going on here.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
I loved it.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
If you saw me at Saint Pete, it was like
I only had a couple of weeks lead up time
knowing I was gonna get back in and.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Be with you guys.
Speaker 7 (37:38):
But to learn everybody, to see those familiar faces as well.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
I was on cloud nine.
Speaker 7 (37:43):
I had the best time at Saint Pete and then
to be back at the Indy five hundred, I'd covered
it for eleven years, Kevin, But I wasn't a Hoosier
back then, so I've been living in Scienceville. Now we've
been there for seven and a half years. It was
awesome to be back, and what a great time to
be part of IndyCar.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
It's just growing at LEAs and bounds.
Speaker 7 (38:00):
And to see that this year with Fox, we knew
what they can do and how they can promote events
and it came out full swing. And now Fox is
bought into IndyCar. That's what it means to them. So
I just hope I'm back for a couple of races
with you guys next year. But how cool is this
Craftsman Truck Series is going to Saint Pete next year,
so they'll be racing the same weekend as IndyCar and
(38:22):
hopefully we'll all be there together and cross promoting.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
It's going to be fun.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I would think they're going to bring the booth to
Saint Pete for truck, so then if you're there, you
might as well work the IndyCar race as well to
get ready for the five hundred. Most people know that
broadcasters need to be diverse and have other business interests
because there's no certainty in anything. So you've got a
new venture in the Indianapolis area, tell me about it.
Speaker 7 (38:45):
We're always working on different ventures. So people called me
the cake Lady because they knew us as nothing bunk cakes.
We had three bakeries in town. We sold those about
a year ago, and my husband's always looking for the
next thing. So we just opened Crave Cookies and Soda.
It's in the Nora Plaza kind of up by North
Central High School if you know where that is, off
eighty sixth Street, and we do amazing cookies. People always
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say it's kind of like crumbled but better. So I
like the competition, and we do those loaded sodas, the
dirty sodas that all the teenagers is all the rage.
So come in and give us a try. Tell them
you heard us here right here on the fan, and yeah,
we just opened literally two weeks ago.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I'm going to venture off the grid in Avon Plainfield
sometime soon and make a road trip to try this out.
All right, watch Jamie on FS one coming up on
Friday night, and then check us out on the Fort
Lauderdale International Boat Show mini airings starting in early December,
I think December seventh. Our first one is on FS one.
We'll see what we missed and more coming up in
just a moment. Trackside ninety three to five one oh
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seven five the.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Fan, Hi, this is what Power and you're listening to Trackside.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
Welcome back to Trackside on a Tuesday night. Kevin has
moved on to the rest of his business this evening
down in Fort Lauderdale. It's a tough job, but Kevin
is excellent about, you know, getting out of the cooler
part of the year in Central Indiana and doing the
work of the boat show down in Fort Lauderdale. So
good for him. Meanwhile, we're here to kind of wrap
(40:08):
up this evening show. I want to call your attention
to Jake Query's interview today with Alex below here on
this station. You can find that interview at one oh
seven five to fan dot com. It's probably ten minutes.
It's a really good listen. I always enjoy Alex Polow.
I think those of you have followed along with this
show know how much I enjoy those conversations. He gives
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you as much as he can. He's entertaining, he's got
an energy and enthusiasm, and I think the one thing
that was very clear with Jake today was was just
how much Alex has appreciated and valued the opportunity to
immerse himself as an Indy five hundred winner and as
a four time IndyCar Series champion in the local community
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with the sports teams. He has been to a handful
of old games. He's smacked the anvil to get the
crowd fired up before the game. So he's done those
kind of things. He has. Over the weekend gone to
an IU football game. He had a chance to be
on the Big Show and the noon kickoff program of Fox,
(41:20):
and they had a milk chugging contest among students. Many
of you have seen that on social media, but that's
a good watch. The winner of that milk chugging contest
amongst students got a wreath placed over there over their head,
courtesy of Alex Pullo. And then Alex took a bottle
(41:41):
of milk and poured it on top of the mascot's head,
the big Bison with the Big Harry and now very
smelly milk drenched bison. And so that was that was
fun to see. And so I listened to Alex talk
about his experience the difference between being a race car
driver and a football player. He noted, you know football
(42:02):
players caring around of football and being chased by by big,
big linemen that quote, you know, they're trying to kill
each other, he said. In my sport, you know, I'm
trying to chase people and being chased, but we do.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
It quote in a polite way.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
So just to just the kind of stuff that makes
Alex Paloso endearing the conversation with Jake. Jake knows how
to press the right buttons to get good answers from people,
and and certainly he spent a lot of time with
with Alex over the last you know, several months to
have that kind of rapport. The other thing Alex was
(42:45):
asked about was the trial and that's going on between
he and McLaren Racing. Obviously, there's not a lot he's
going to share, but he did say he thought the
resolution to this dispute would come after the first of
the year. Now I don't have any grand illusions that
it couldn't happen before that, but that's what Alex had
(43:05):
to say. So we'll see if that comes after the year.
That's all we have time for tonight. I appreciate you
joining us for Kevin and Lannon Coons back in the studio.
My name is Kurt Cavin and we'll be with you
next Tuesday night to talk IndyCar racing in the Indy
five hundred and all things motorsports. Up next at least
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nine innings of World Series Baseball.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Here on what a seven to five of the Fan