Curt and Kevin Talk About the Possibility of Zilisch in the Indy 500, Testing, New Tracks, and More!
October 6, 2025 • 45 mins
Tonight, on a Monday night edition of Trackside with Curt Cavin and Kevin Lee, they talk recap the NASCAR weekend at the Charlotte Motor Speedway Roval with Shane van Gisbergen winning the Cup Series race, while Connor Zilisch won the Xfinity Series race. They also talk about the possibility of Zilisch testing an IndyCar with Dreyer & Reinbold Racing. They later talk about if Ryan Hunter-Reay and/or Conor Daly could return to Dreyer & Reinbold or if he could be the fourth driver for Arrow McLaren in the 2026 Indy 500. Later, they recap the recent rookie testing from Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course, with Felipe Nasr being the fastest, and preview the upcoming test days at World Wide Technology Raceway.
In the second segment, they talk about the increase of leader’s circle prize money. They also talk about new street course races in the future that involve NFL stadiums. They later talk about Pato O’Ward speaking on the series missing out to race at Mexico City in 2026 and how to go forward.
To wrap up another edition of the show, Kevin answers fan questions from X.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
This is track Side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee
on ninety three to five and one oh seven five
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tonight. We'll get right into it. No time for audio
in the open. It's the Power hour. We'll make use
of the time we have available before Cubs Baseball starts
just after eight o'clock Eastern that some of us may
be paying attention to. We've got a recap of the
five car evaluation day at mid Ohio last week and
what IndyCar testing is still to come. There's positive news
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for teams on the economic front. Another new market has
emerged for a street race, a new job for Simon Pajano,
and some of your questions and comments via X or
Twitter at Kevin Lee twenty three and at Kirk Cavin.
Hello and welcome. Thanks for joining us landon coons Is
in the studio. It's a Monday night edition of the
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program Kevin Lee along with Kurk Cavin. While we're at it,
let's see today is October sixth. Next week the show
is scheduled for Tuesday, October fourteenth. So while Indiana Fever
season is unfortunately over, PACER's season has started and they
have a preseason clash tomorrow that will air here on
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the radio station. So we will bounce around just a
little bit with pacer games. But apparently there is no
practice play coming up next Tuesday, or actually the rest
of the month. It appears to me that we will
be on Tuesdays according to this for the rest of
the calendar year. So there you go until we take
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our Christmas vacation. We do have some racing this weekend.
We'll get into it a little bit, but it's petite
lamar m Siscott Dixon is going to be one of
the extra drivers in the number sixty Myer Shank Car
No Alex Poalo. I would say he's otherwise detained, but
when you're talking about a court case, I probably shouldn't
use the word detained. He's unavailable. He's got bigger things
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to do. But Tristan Vodier, remember Tristan Vodier, who's carved
out a nice career in sportscar racing with drives here
and there. He's going to be the third driver in
the other Meyer Shank Carr. So we'll get into that
and some things a little bit later on as time permits.
Noon on Saturday on NBC First three hours on NBC,
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all ten and a half hours on Peacock, the first
three hours on Network Television, and we'll have qualifying in
the Michelin Pilot Challenge race on Friday as well on Peacock.
You know, maybe I'll start with this because this is
one of the topics that we'll lead into something. So
I Kurt managed the DVR successfully yesterday and stayed off
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the Twitter and watched Red Zone Live for a while,
then watched the NASCAR race on USA because I like
the road course races and it's kind of like, you know,
I want to see it's like Alex Pollo when he races.
I want to see, can anybody beat SVG? And the
answer is no, no, at least not on a road court.
He won. He won by sixteen seconds. So here's the
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interesting stats for this guy. In just his forty sixth
Cup start, he has six wins. This matches the fewest
starts to reach six wins. Since I'm going to say
Jeff Gordon, Jeff Gordon, how about a J foyt?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You know, because Jeff did what he did basically the
full ninety three season. I think True True Drew. Yeah,
I think I think maybe he debuted at ninety two
and Richard Petty's last race at Atlanta did ninety three,
then won what Charlotte in ninety four, and then the
Brickyard I think was his second win. I could be
off on that, but I know it was his first
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big win.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, that's number two, and that's absolutely the timeline. I
didn't think about him running the full season in ninety three.
I should have known that there weren't enough races for
him to accomplish what SVG has just done. What is
he like five in a row on road courses?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is that won the last five which matches Jeff Gordon
who won five straight road course races over this span
of like four years, because then they ran two per year.
So he's won the most by far in a season.
But that that foint in comparison. Most people aren't going
to get that. But then it makes some sense because
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he only won the races that he was going to
have a chance to win. He was generally going to
be in good equipment, but he did that. He won
his sixth in nineteen seventy two, which was his forty
sixth start over what probably eight years, I don't know
when aj started doing NASCAR races, but probably in the
sixty four, sixty five, sixty six range in there, so
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that was an interesting one as well. And then Connor
Zilich won his tenth race of the season in Infinity
and that's where we'll lead us back to our with
Indy Car and the five hundred, and we talked about
how there are just a limited number of seats available,
and we chatted last week that you know, my best
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guess was that Ryan Hunter Ray would probably be in
the fourth McLaren car. And you say, I think maybe
he'll still end up with drying Ryan Bold did at
asking around and now I see why you. You might
have heard that he may be testing for drying Ryan
Bold at Indianapolis. So I went and asked some sources
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what happened, and then I did get a few people
to tell me, yeah, it wasn't just common sense. We've
also heard that he was headed to McLaren, that that
was all but done. So maybe that still happens. I'm
not going to say it doesn't happen. And I have
and I'll say this too. I have some pretty good
sources within that team. Jack Harvey is not one of them,
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so I didn't really get into direct sources. I'm not
going to put Jack in that position where he either
tells me and I can't say anything, or doesn't want
to tell me to get in trouble. So I have
not traded messages with Jack in quite some time, other
than congratulations on your deal being done, which had been
done for a little while, but it got announced recently.
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So that's not one of my sources. Dennis rein Bold
is not one of you know, I have secondary sources,
so who knows. But it makes me think, And this
is what's more fun about it is speculation because just
to go win the race and give yourself the best
chance to win Ryan Hunterray makes sense. But what doesn't
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make sense are the dollars in cents? So what are
McLaren's priorities for that extra seat? I had heard it
could be had for two million dollars, which is about
a half a million more than what is generally the
going rate. But they know it's going to be a
good seat. Have they found someone to bring budget? Because
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I don't know who they could find. I would say
Connor Daily is another one. Connor could be in that
both situation where Connor is there with Ryan Hunterray. Now
he doesn't have a win like Ryan Hunter Ray, but
he's very accomplished. But we don't think Ryan is attached
to a sponsor. Connor, especially in a McLaren car, could
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raise that pretty quickly. So I start with him. But
it's not because someone has said I think Connor is
in that seat. That's just who's the best available and
who can raise some money do they want to splash?
One theory I've heard is that it was a lot
of work managing the partnership with Henrick, not necessarily Kyle Larson,
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but there's just a lot of people and think about
it from this and this wasn't cited as an example,
but it's one I would use. They didn't know an
hour before the race in twenty twenty three whether the
driver is going to be able to participate. Now, granted
rain got in the way of things, but that just
had to take a lot of time and effort. And
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I've heard they don't really want to go down that
path again, But that's the path I'm going to bring
up as a possibility, and where I get back to
Connor Zilich, And we've thrown his name out there before
he's someone that I think has said I'd like to
do the Indy five hundred. Justin Marx is basically his boss,
and Justin Marx has told me and many other people,
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I want to do the Indy five hundred. I want
to program there. Kind of thought it would always be
more on his own. And I don't know if McLaren
would let you brand it track House McLaren or track
House Aera McLaren anything else, but maybe. And then here's
another reason why he gave me pause to think about
Connor Zilich. Again. If I didn't hear Kevin Harvick's podcast,
(08:50):
I should watch. He's in the Fox Family. But he
said on the most recent episode, who was it they
had on? Oh maybe it was. Was it a Kyle
Larson or something? They were just kind of talking about
who would be the next driver to do it, and
he mentioned he still said I think Kyle Busch would
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do it, but he mentioned Connor Zilich and he said
he should do it now. And this made a lot
of sense because if you do it like Larson in
the middle of your career. Oh, it was Bob Pocras
was the guest. He was asking Bob from Fox Sports,
and Bob responded with, well, don't you think you want
to have a little more leverage and have won a
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Cup title before you go off and do extracurriculars. And
Kevin Harvick's reasoning was, no, you actually want to do
it early in your career, before you are expected to
win a Cup title where you maybe don't have as
many other life distractions as well that a nineteen or
a twenty year old does as a rookie. Next year,
Connor Zillach should not be expected to make should not
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be expected to win the Cup title. Now maybe he does,
or maybe he at least makes it into the play.
So I'm wondering if that's just sound reasoning or does
maybe Kevin Harvick knows something. He also said, by the way,
that Connor Zilich is the one from our world that
could have done F one, and I remember throwing his
name out over the winner that if he was willing
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to do it, I could have seen Andrette ETWG Motorsports
Cadillac F one doing like the Colton hurd a deal
putting him in an F two car to learn more
about Formula car racing. But he's getting paid a lot
of money to drive stock cars right now, so that's
a little risky.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, and you say all that because he has you know,
he had such a good karting career to begin with.
That's really you know, he sort of comes from the
world that that was his path. Yeah, that's his path,
and it certainly aligns very well. He has said, at
least to the best of mine recollection, that I would
like to do the ND five hundred. The only thing
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is that I can shoot a hole in the the
Harvick and this is a wild shot. To the negative
is or to the theory is that I think he
will be a championship contender next year. I mean he's won.
He's won ten of the twenty eight Infinity races. I
mean he this is an Infinity season pursuit like we've
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not seen in recent years. Ten wins already. He's won
at Indianapolis on the Oval, he's won at Gateway, he's
won at Portland. I'm thinking he's won. You know, he's
got as many wins on IndyCar tracks as anybody not
named not named Alex Below or Kyle Kirkwood this year.
So it's anyway, it's interesting. I think I think Justin
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Marx will be the path. It is interesting that he
drives for JR Motorsports or Junior Motorsports, depending on how
you call it. And you know Hendrick's done this. Hendricks
a cohenner of that team, and Dale Junior is very
intrigued by Indy as well. But I think Justin Marx
is the path, and I think that Justin Marx is
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going to want to do it as a track house deal.
I just don't know that. I don't know that. I
just have that sense. He seems like and I don't
know Justin very well, but I just feel like that
would be it would he would want that to be
a track house deal, not an arrow McLaren deal.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Maybe it can be, though it can be. It could
be for the right amount of money. So it's two
million if you want to drive a McLaren car, it's
four million if you want to own the whole program,
and then it becomes a track house McLaren entry. You
know what is your name goes first. And in reality,
he's going to need to do that. He's not going
to once because he's going to want to be competitive.
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He's going to have to partner with the thought had
always been Chip Ganassi Racing. He gave Chip forty million
dollars or something like that for the NASCAR charters, and
he drove for Chip previously, so that made some sense,
and that could still happen because Chip could run an
extra car next year, because I don't think they're going
to have a team in sports car racing again next year.
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That's one of the other sports car developments is that
I thought maybe they would get the Ford contract, but
Ford is going to run it in house as a
full factory program in wek and May. They've not announced
EMSE yet, but they assumingly would come to IMSA. So
I don't think that Ganassi has a sports car program
again next year. I think they are doubling their Indie
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Next entries, which is how we're going to get to
twenty four as a Max, and I think there's a
good chance that that happens.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think it's got to be Aera McLaren over Chip
Ganassi Racing, because that's a Chevy program. They're a Chevy team,
They're a Chevy. I mean, he's been a Chevy year,
doesn't it. Yeah, it's it's I just don't see how
you know a Chevy Cup driver is going to go
get to run a Honda in Indy five hundred right now.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So that's just a theory out there right now. And
one so while McLaren Aaron McLaren might love to have
the knowledge and teammate capabilities of Ryan Hunter Ray, if
and Justin Marx is magnificent at raising money, he could
raise the money for the attention that he knows how
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to generate and that Connor Zilich is going to generate.
I don't think that'll be hard raising a couple of
million dollars for Zillage to run the Indy five hundred.
So if you're mclaar and you're looking at all, right,
we can pay or find the sponsorship for Ryan Hunterray
to run, or we can get paid to have Connor
Zillach and maybe develop a relationship where he does this
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thing two or three times and you know, maybe it's
not every year, maybe it depends on where he's at,
But wouldn't you like to have that as a part
of your program. This guy might be the best that
we've seen in a long time to be a lot
to be determined on that, but he's on that path
to be the latest as good as slice bread, you
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know kind of thing. So anyway, we'll just keep an
eye on that moving forward, and who knows, maybe this
is all subterfuge and Hunter Ray ends up back in
a McLaren car at some point, but I'd like to
see him stay with with Dryan Rein. But mostly I
just won him in the race, and I was kind
of excited about that because that would open up a
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seat if Connor Daily doesn't get a full time seat,
that would be a good place for him to be,
to be back at Dryan Reinbold in a really good car.
So those are a couple of things going on. We
had some young drivers and some not quite as young
that probably aren't headed to Indy Car test at mid Ohio.
The evaluation day quote evaluation for former Formula One driver
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for Lee by Nazer, who was a multi time champion
in imsub He was the quickest of the day, but
just barely over Neil's Colan. The indie next driver for
Chip Ganassi Racing was three hundreds of a second off
the best LAFE time of Felipe Nasser. This is what
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I from what I have, and I think this is
courtesy of racer dot Com, but I saw some other
outlets had posted some times as well. Kyle Collette was
another tenth Yeah, about a tenth off in the aj
Foyd car. Kaku Ota Honda driver for Meyer Shank Racing
was about a half a second off. Actually those are
(16:26):
morning times. Yeah, I need to find some and then
Dennis Hower because what I'm looking at has no time
because it looks like Dennis Hauger crashed on pretty much
the outlap and then I think crashed again later but
did have pretty representative time. So I think I've got
a screenshot of the final times from somewhere else in there.
What stands out to me one Neil's Colon two. We
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don't know how many tires everybody used. Maybe Nils threw
on a sticker set every eight laps or something like that,
but still you have to produce the time. I like
what I saw from Kyle Collette, and we expected him
to be good enough. Now, which is going to come
down to whether they can all find the budgets. But
if they can find the budget, I would think Floyd
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would find that he's pretty acceptable.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So we'll get to testing next week. But Kyle Colet's
going to go again with Foight. I mean, I think
that's the one that makes sense as we start to
watch this landscape for twenty twenty six start to materialize
in a concrete manner, I think Kyle Collette seems to
me to be headed for a full time job with
with AJ Foyt racing in next season's calendar, alongside Santino Ferrucci,
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So that that starts to give us some additional clarity,
you know, And I've thought a lot of this talent.
I thought his you know, you watch the next race
is even closer than I did. But I think I
think he's got a shot. I think he's got a
shot to be to hold his own next year if
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he can get that full time. See, it pretty much
generally comes down to budget. You know they're going to end,
but it is a pendulum. It's not that, you know,
what they'd love to have is a really good driver
who brings ten million dollars. That's what a proper program costs,
and you could pretty easily spend eleven or twelve and
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doing it on the cheap now is probably six seven.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Million, and I'm not sure that's even possible, but somewhere
in that range. So you know, anybody of his caliber
that can bring six million plus is going to be
hired immediately. That's just going to happen. Now. The question though,
is all right, what if he only has two or
three million? Is Foyd willing to subsidize? Can they make
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that work to find him the seat? Because I know
it was not a snap of the finger for him
to find the anywhere between eight hundred thousand and one
point five million it costs for the Indie Next program.
That was a challenge for he and his supporters, and
it was like most of them touch and go at times.
So it's not like he can just generate three million
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dollars immediately. Here's what I see from Jefferson Kern who
had had some pictures. Jefferson I think is a brazil
maybe a Brazilian journalist, and he had NASA Quickest, then Kyo,
then Hauger third quick, then Neil's Colon. So those are
the morning times I posted. So Colin was nine tenths off,
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and then kaku Oda was one point one second soft.
But Nazar Collette, it looks like Collette was only tenth off.
Felipe Nazar in a Penske car. So you're getting something
done there. So that was a positive test and I'm
happy to hear that he's going to get another go.
Getting to go a second time tells me that they
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are serious about this, and there looks like there is
at least a potential path toward making that happen. A
week from today, right is the next time we're going
to see somebody in any car at the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway next Monday on the road course. It's been previously
reported and actually confirmed by all parties that Mick Schumacher
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is going to be in a ray Hall Letterman Landinggan car,
and I think we all also agree that's not just
making use of the evaluation day, that this is a
proper tryout to see how he goes, see how he
likes it, and then maybe see if they can find
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the funding to back him. Yeah, I think we know
about anybody else. Do we know about anybody else that's
going to be there?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, Kyle koalit and there'll be a couple of evaluation drivers,
Lackey Hughes being one of them. Dennis Hager would get
a second chance in a dale Coin car. ECR is
going to use the test day I'm going to have
its two drivers on the track, and I think there's
still one more.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm going to let him use their current driver. CCR
is using Rossi and Ras.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, who goes Hollinger is going to do that?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Surprises me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Who goes Hollinger is going to do a car? And
I'll let them. I don't think that one's been announced.
I'm going to let that one stand out there for
a few more days and let them let them announce it.
But good for them, it's a driver evaluation. His son no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well his son just did a day the next car
and his son just won British F four race. So
that's a big leap to go from British F four
uh to Indy car. So who was it? It's a
sports car driver. I think Marshall Pru had had this
that they were meant to do something. It was a
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Nico Varoni that they were trying to do something with
at mid Ohio and it didn't happen. So Nico Varoni
is from Argentina, so there's a connection there and he
will be at so I'll ask Nico this weekend. He'll
be at Petite Lama running as the third driver on
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the number four Corvette team a Tommy Milder Niki Katzberg.
But he is a very well regarded former junior formula
driver who has well, I think he's done some maybe
F one testing or something like that, but he is
a very highly rated talent. So that name has been
out there and there is the connection from Argentina like
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Ricardo Hunko.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So we shall see a couple days of testing this
week actually before we get to next Monday at Worldwide
Technology Raceway. We'll see the debut in an official debut
because we actually have seen David Malucas in a Team
Penske car previously. That was in an evaluation day a
couple of years ago, and he is one of the
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couple three at least two that I know of that'll
be at Worldwide Technology Raceway tomorrow and Wednesday, I believe,
for the two days. So we'll see how David likes that.
I'm sure he's going to much to talk about tomorrow.
It's got to be like, you know, kid in a
candy store, first day of school, whatever you want to
describe it. I think his excitement is going to be
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off the charts and we'll see Big Dave, Little Dave
go to Big Dave as he transitions to a Team
Penske driver.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
By the way, going back to the Middle Ohio test,
I think the reports were that Kyle Kollett was the
only one who did not crash. Now, some of the
crashes were not significant. I saw a picture of one
of Hawger's and it was pretty significant. But not only
was he quick, but he didn't cause any damage. So
that's always a positive and that helps you get an
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extra test.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
One thing about the Japanese driver, he was the only
one who had not been to midd Ohio previously, so
that he was last of five or six, you know,
shouldn't really be a surprise. I hear great things about him.
He is third in the super Formula Japan formula series
where Alex Plot came from. He's got three wins already.
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I think he's kind of the next rising star of
Japanese drivers. And you know, I think he's got a
shot not in twenty twenty six, but twenty seven. It
seems like a possibility.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Good well, if he has a shot in twenty seven,
that would bode well for Honda. Still continuing because I
don't think he's going to be here if Honda is
not a part of IndyCar, because I believe their contract
ends at the end of twenty six, still believe burning
questions that this. I feel like this has been decided
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and they are doing a fantastic job of keeping it
quiet because we don't know about their participation in NASCAR either,
and I don't know if they can do both. And
the entree in the NASCAR is generally the truck series.
You start out there and then you eventually make your
way up to Cup And that seemed to be a
foregone conclusion over a year ago that they were headed.
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And then one of the theories was they found out
what that was going to cost, and it is significantly
more than what IndyCar will cost. And you know, you
can debate the merits of which one is better, which
one is not. You know, there's a cool factor involved
with IndyCar, but a stock car looks more like a
car that you're going to sell, so pluses and minuses.
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You know, one has the Indy five hundred, one has
a lot of events. But you know, now we're to
the point IndyCar ratings, at least once you get to
football are not far off of what Cup races are.
They're getting one four to one seven four races on
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cable because they have a long schedule and they have
to go against the NFL. And I'm telling you, if
somehow they could magically make their season ends when Indy
Cars does, they would do it because it is a
losing battle if television ratings matter, especially if you're on cable.
And it's an another reason why the IndyCar television deal
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was masterful to get every single race on network television.
So even a bad day is still a good day,
you know. Now IndyCar is getting half on bad days
of what NASCAR is getting on their bad days. They
used to get a fifth of what NASCAR was getting.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know, I think I'm a great example of it.
You know, I certainly follow racing on on multiple levels,
but I watched probably five football games over the weekend,
and there's.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Just not to work hard. I had to work hard
to watch the NASCAR race, and I felt I wanted
to see it. I hadn't watched a race in like
three weeks, and I felt bad. Those are all my
friends on that broadcast, the producer, the director, you know,
Diffy everybody, and I feel like, and I also understand
that's my business. I'm not really in the football business anymore,
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but i still like to watch football. So that's the
challenge that they have. And you know, I saw Denny
Hamlin had some pointed comments and they took the money
they took. That's what you get when you do cable.
They're going to pay you more than being on network television.
And they have I think nine more years of this
deal or something like that where they only have six
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or seven races a year on network television, and I
feel like they're all going to panic and are they
going to change the playoff structure? You know, if there
wasn't a playoff situation. I found yesterday's race interesting as
to whether Ross Chasteam was going to make it or
a star a champion in Joey Logano. That came down
to the very final lap, the final corner as to
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who was going to make that. Had they not had that,
You've got SBG, a guy not in the playoffs, winning
by fifteen seconds, and then what you have, So it
did lead you to something for this particular race. I'm
intrigued to see what a full season points system would
be like, and they're thinking about it again because they
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feel like they got to do something. I'm told at
the beginning of the year that was not in play
that maybe we'll tweak the playoff structure, but we would
never think about going back to the old system. I
think it's still more likely it's a change to a
playoff system. But this just simple points. And that's the
other thing. I'm in the business, and it's confusing me too,
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playoff points and how does it work? And I saw
something today that they're not even sure if the graphic
was correct, that Chastain was maybe in when he decided
to pile drive Denny Hamlin to get that spot in
the last corner. So sometimes, when you know people have
a hard time watching thirty six straight weeks or thirty
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six out of thirty eight, maybe you do want to
go back to some simplicity. There's no perfect answer. I
feel for him. Yeah, I agree with you. It's between
stage points and chase points, and you know, I can't
keep all that in my head with thirty six cars,
you know, much less watch thirty six races. All right,
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some business of IndyCar, some positive news on that, and
we'll get to your tweets. Up next track side ninety
three to five one oh seven five to the fan. Hi,
this is Scott McLachlin and you'll listen to trackside on
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Another item from Racer Magazine last week. This was very
pleasant news to read that. Marshall Proud writes that multiple
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sources tell Racer Penske Entertainment recently informed its entrance of
a plan to add five hundred thousand dollars to each
Leader Circle contract for twenty twenty six, to rise to
nearly one point seven million dollars per contract, would represent
the largest year to year increase since the program is
created in two thousand and two. It's been thought to
be about a million here at this point, and he
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mentions in the article that likely no coincidence since Fox
purchased thirty three percent of the series, so Penske Entertainment
may be reinvesting. Nothing official yet. You may not be
able to comment because you've not been asked, You've not
written a press release yet. Since this out right, it
seems like pretty solid information and no one has refuted
this at this point.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, I've not been asked to edit or write press
release or even read it. So I've not seen it
other than what Marshall wrote. And you know, obviously, you know,
you've got to think about the infrastructure of your program,
you know, and that includes maybe even starts with your participants.
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So the better what the better shape they're in, the
better shape you're in. So it always makes good sense
to invest in your stakeholders, employees, however you want to
phrase your constituents.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So now you're up to that is getting close to being,
you know, fifteen percent or so of a reasonable budget,
and it is something that is basically everybody found a
half a million dollar sponsor, which is not Jump Change.
So that is a significant deal and that's what we
want to see in that regard new races. Sports Business
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Journal reported that IndyCar is exploring a potential street course
race in Cleveland for twenty twenty eight, according to a
survey sent to local leaders that was seen by SBJ.
So I think, I'll say, and by the way, it's
not Burke Lakefront Airports, different location. I don't know if
that's not viable anymore. I was never there. Is that
close to downtown? Is that close to stuff? It is,
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it is okay, so maybe it's not viable anymore, or
maybe they figure light figure something else would be a
little more aesthetically pleasing, would be literally walking distance from
restaurants and so forth. Here's what I will say. I
think Fox has made it clear that they're looking to
help create big events, but we'll probably see more of these.
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I would just take a map where there are NFL
stadiums and just say any one of these is a possibility.
And who knows how deep along the lines this is.
Maybe it's just because somebody leaked it. I have no
idea whether this is real or not, but I would
think they either have or will kick the tires on
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every major market where there is a great, big parking
lot in a football stadium that is somewhere close to things.
So cross off landover Maryland. That's not close to a
lot of things. But those are the types of things
that they're looking and it's not going to be fourteen
races like that. They're going to want to try to
find the two or three best that come together, because
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you're going to have to cast a wide net to
find those one or two or three because as we
all know, there are a lot of obstacles in the
way to being able to get a temporary event completed.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, I was thinking about that. I was going
through the NFC teams and their stadiums because that's where
Fox is dominantly plays during football season. Is in the NFC,
not the AFC. Cleveland's in AFC, Denver is an AFC.
So anyway, it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Has Denver changed because when I first started hearing about this,
I had not heard that they were building a new stadium.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They are building a new stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Well, does that change things? Yeah, I'm not sure, but
we know how that went in Tennessee. If they build
a new stadium, that means there's no no place available
for the next little while. So yeah, we'll need to
have some more update on those things. As you know,
they're never done until they're done. Mexico City, Poto Award.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Was on.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Was it Connor's podcast? He was on some sort of
podcast and he wants Mexico City to be the opener
for IndyCar And you know, as we've said before, Poto
does not mix words. He's direct, He's not going to
cover for anyone. And his basic response has been yeah,
with the options that were available. This was not winnable
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for IndyCar. The option to run there in twenty six
was not good, so we need to make it right.
He wants it to be the season opener at the
end of February. Only problem that there is we have
a pretty good event that runs at the end of
February in the beginning of March. So I get you
got to look out for number one, and if I'm Potto,
I want that to be the season opener too. But
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unless there's some financial benefit for IndyCar that supersedes everything else,
I'm not super interested in bumping a well established events
in America. Now, can we make if Phoenix doesn't work out,
which that's all tbd? How this does, Week two could
be open, but I would prefer if that is still
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the date February twenty seventh of March, seconds that you
stick with what works now. If Mexico City can go
a week or two earlier, which we'd all like to do.
We'd all like to see the season start a little
bit earlier, get some more races in, or shorten the
off season a little bit than fine. But if it's
just booting Saint Pete, I don't know that that's the
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best option in my mind.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, I would agree with that. I would. I would
caution you to say that Saint Pete has not always
been that early in March, and it has not always
been the season opener. So so those two things are true.
But I think I would want to start in the
US from a just a media standpoint, from you know,
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if I could start, if I could start in Saint Petersburg,
that would be my preference.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Now as I think out loud, Saint Pete used to
enjoy being on Indiana spring break time, and they might
welcome being the second week, but then you run into
potentially going head to head with Seabring. You know, when
you're March first ish, you know you're never going to
go head to head with Seabring. Used to be oftentimes
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one week apart the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
First the first eleven or twelve years of the of
the IndyCar Saint Pete because they did run one year
under the cart banner, but after the IndyCar Series began
there they ran eleven or twelve years. The first first
eleven or twelve years was the last weekend of March
or the first couple of days of April, so it
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was essentially a month later in the schedule. So you know,
it's only been the last you know, really last year
was the first time they went to March, you know,
like March second, and you know they've done that that
first week of March here now a couple times. But
I even did a February race. But you know, typically,
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or at least for most of this event's history, it's
been the end of March, which which is the Indiana's
Midwest spring break time.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yep, it's working pretty well where it's at, and so
I need to hear more though, you know, if we
can be convinced that this Mexico City Race is going
to be awesome and it just slots in quite well
to have somewhere else, but ideally you're opening up in
America unless I think, unless it gets your season started earlier.
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All right, bring back Chicago in is the Twitter? Not Jacob? Sorry?
What's Indy next? Testing that auto been Ali had four?
Is it a general test day for the teams with
Penske buy any tracks from NASCAR if they lose the
trial against twenty three to eleven. If the judge forced
NASCAR to sell So the test at Autobon a couple
of weeks ago. Is just an evaluation test day for
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Indie Next teams for drivers that have not driven an
Indie Next car before. Don't see. That's not going to
be a race location. It's just an approved track where
junior Formula team, sports car teams and so forth can test.
I cannot see Penske buying any more tracks. I believe
they have enough going on at this point because they
could just rent them. If they feel like they want
to control an event, they can just rent it for
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the day.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, I don't see that. You know, they're as far
as you know tracks or I guess venues where IndyCar
has been in the past that's still like Richmond is
the one that you would discuss as opposed to a
Chicago land or you know, maybe being somewhere else. Autubon,
I believe, is the place where Bobby Rainghall has a garage,
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mahal kind of thing he does. Yeah, that's loyalty and
I've been there to see Bobby's place, and you know
that's that's not an IndyCar racetrack.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So Hector Serrano asked this last week after you left,
so you can look into this is the FIA going
you get the call to take over IndyCar officiating. What's
the word on this? It's almost October now, it is October.
Not really in a hurry on my part, but is
there something in the works, so you let us know
when you hear on that front of it. Who is
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taking over IndyCar officiating next year.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
They're just dying to tell me, to tell tracks what's
happening with that. But it, like the Honda thing, it
is something. You know, we've been kind of waiting to
hear what the what the resolution is because they have
been they have just you know, Doug Bowles has talked
about this on a number of occasions, but we don't
yet have clarification on how this is going to look.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
They got a lot of things to work on at
this point.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I sure do.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
From Ken one k Moose will be a good street
course race to a ten IndyCar next season. I've only
been to Ovals well, I love Saint Pete and Long Beach.
Don't know anything about the new Toronto events, so we'll
all find out together on that.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, I mean a Long Beach is just a lot
of fun. Saint Pete just always feels good based on
the weather and so forth. I was looking at the
looking at the list. Yeah, I mean I think I
think Saint Pete is the answer. I think I think
Arlington is going to have a lot of buzz. I
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think you're going to find. I mean it is you're
talking about conveniently located to you know a lot of
things that are fun. I think I think Arlington takes
those boxes.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But I just none of us can speak to what
the sitelines are unless you purchase a correct and you
know how expensive this hospitality and things along that regard.
I like Detroit, but I don't know that people would
put that, as you know, super high up on their
You know, one thing with Detroit you get is you
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get an m's a race too, if that's important to
you to see some extra racing, which is what you
can also get a long beach. It's tough, so I'll
say this about street races. It's tough to just have
a GA ticket and really get a good look at
the track. So if you do a GA, you're just
there to walk about and experience the event. But if
you want to have some good vantage points from GA,
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you're going to a place like barber Well Road America
where you don't need to buy a ticket, you just
walk around and you're going to have plenty of good
places where you can see things. Whereas I found it
at Saint Pete, I think you need to get up
in that grandstand at the exit of turn one if
you really want to see what's happening. There are some
places where the media center is what's that building that's
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not is that the Mahafe Theater.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It is the Mahaffe Theater.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So along there you can see them coming down Lake
Shore whatever the road is called. They're the one that
goes into Turn ten and Dan Weldon Way. You get
a good glimpse of the cars there, and that's where
a lot of people just ga kind of congregate, and
I think there might be a video board there where
you can kind of hang out as as well.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I think if I was just going to an event
to feel the vibe, though, I'd go to Long Beach.
I mean, there is so much, There is so much
going on, and you can walk to the to the
paddocks and you know, you can you can really be
a part of the event without actually seeing the race cars.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Alex came in seventeen seventy six says, why did the
hype of the hybrid die off and the race day
discussion about it shoes during the broadcast fall off to
basically nothing? Watching races on Fox after the five hundred,
the guy's hardly ever mentioned it. I don't know that
we find it super interesting. So I'm not involved in
that conversation because I'm not in the booth. That's more
of a booth led discussion. But I don't think it's
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enough to really I think the feeling would be this
is not going to get we like to talk about
Aunt Linda. What's going to interest Aunt Linda. We're trying
to bring new people in and grow the audience, and
confusing them and overwhelming them about hybrid probably is not
the way to do it. They've already got us and
(42:46):
they have me, and I don't care about hybrid. Hybrid
is here because it was important to one of the manufacturers.
It's important to the auto industry as well. I get it.
I get why that's important to say your car is hybrid.
That does seem to be the future, was it? The
head of four just recently said, yeah, this electric thing
ain't working, but we do see a future in hybrid.
(43:06):
So I think we're all wrestling with why we really
want to spend a whole lot of time on this.
There's only so much time available.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Well, even the even the conversation about just push to
pass in general is it. There's a couple points during
a race where it would come up, but it's not
like it's a huge Everybody kind of uses it the same.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
They use it the same way, yeap. So when everybody
uses the same there's been enough one for a long time.
How much conversation did they talk about hybrid other than
every once in a while, you have to they're managing
their hybrid. It is a passing reference that fans general
fans do not care about. And that's kind of and
that's a challenge for the manufacturers. I don't know. We
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never heard from anyone saying, you guys have to talk
about hybrid. I think they're going to trust Fox do
what they think is best from an entertainment standpoint, and
so far we've not really found what makes this super
interesting to people. Maybe that will change, and maybe we'll
change too as the hybrid gets more powerful, as it
becomes a more powerful push to pass, which might come
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with the next generation. All right, we'll see what we
missed and more coming up next on Trackside, Hi, this
is Graham ray Hall and you're listening to Trackside on
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A few Twitter or X questions, Lynn underscore IndyCar says,
or ask. Could Andretti Global become the Dodgers of IndyCar.
They have so much money that they can sign any
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driver or team member. They're well financed and coincidentally twg
owns the Dodgers and Andretti, so there is a connection there,
Dana ask. Is the new Andrette building the Fisher's airport
solely being used for Cadillac F one? Yes, because of
F one cost cap deals, they have to be totally separate.
No IndyCar work can be done there, or vice versa.
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Esf one says, is Renu's Vick still in the picture
for a twenty twenty six Indy Car seat or is
he wearily dug himself to contractless Grave. That's one of
the questions we need answered. I have to believe he
has something and we should learn something soon. Out of time.
We'll see you next Tuesday night at seven o'clock join
us for him. So from Road Atlanta, Petite lamon this
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weekend with Peacock and NBC
This is track Side with Kirk Cavin and Kevin Lee
on ninety three to five and one oh seven five
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Tonight. We'll get right into it. No time for audio
in the open. It's the Power hour. We'll make use
of the time we have available before Cubs Baseball starts
just after eight o'clock Eastern that some of us may
be paying attention to. We've got a recap of the
five car evaluation day at mid Ohio last week and
what IndyCar testing is still to come. There's positive news
(00:33):
for teams on the economic front. Another new market has
emerged for a street race, a new job for Simon Pajano,
and some of your questions and comments via X or
Twitter at Kevin Lee twenty three and at Kirk Cavin.
Hello and welcome. Thanks for joining us landon coons Is
in the studio. It's a Monday night edition of the
(00:53):
program Kevin Lee along with Kurk Cavin. While we're at it,
let's see today is October sixth. Next week the show
is scheduled for Tuesday, October fourteenth. So while Indiana Fever
season is unfortunately over, PACER's season has started and they
have a preseason clash tomorrow that will air here on
(01:14):
the radio station. So we will bounce around just a
little bit with pacer games. But apparently there is no
practice play coming up next Tuesday, or actually the rest
of the month. It appears to me that we will
be on Tuesdays according to this for the rest of
the calendar year. So there you go until we take
(01:36):
our Christmas vacation. We do have some racing this weekend.
We'll get into it a little bit, but it's petite
lamar m Siscott Dixon is going to be one of
the extra drivers in the number sixty Myer Shank Car
No Alex Poalo. I would say he's otherwise detained, but
when you're talking about a court case, I probably shouldn't
use the word detained. He's unavailable. He's got bigger things
(01:58):
to do. But Tristan Vodier, remember Tristan Vodier, who's carved
out a nice career in sportscar racing with drives here
and there. He's going to be the third driver in
the other Meyer Shank Carr. So we'll get into that
and some things a little bit later on as time permits.
Noon on Saturday on NBC First three hours on NBC,
(02:19):
all ten and a half hours on Peacock, the first
three hours on Network Television, and we'll have qualifying in
the Michelin Pilot Challenge race on Friday as well on Peacock.
You know, maybe I'll start with this because this is
one of the topics that we'll lead into something. So
I Kurt managed the DVR successfully yesterday and stayed off
(02:43):
the Twitter and watched Red Zone Live for a while,
then watched the NASCAR race on USA because I like
the road course races and it's kind of like, you know,
I want to see it's like Alex Pollo when he races.
I want to see, can anybody beat SVG? And the
answer is no, no, at least not on a road court.
He won. He won by sixteen seconds. So here's the
(03:07):
interesting stats for this guy. In just his forty sixth
Cup start, he has six wins. This matches the fewest
starts to reach six wins. Since I'm going to say
Jeff Gordon, Jeff Gordon, how about a J foyt?
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You know, because Jeff did what he did basically the
full ninety three season. I think True True Drew. Yeah,
I think I think maybe he debuted at ninety two
and Richard Petty's last race at Atlanta did ninety three,
then won what Charlotte in ninety four, and then the
Brickyard I think was his second win. I could be
off on that, but I know it was his first
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big win.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yeah, that's number two, and that's absolutely the timeline. I
didn't think about him running the full season in ninety three.
I should have known that there weren't enough races for
him to accomplish what SVG has just done. What is
he like five in a row on road courses?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Is that won the last five which matches Jeff Gordon
who won five straight road course races over this span
of like four years, because then they ran two per year.
So he's won the most by far in a season.
But that that foint in comparison. Most people aren't going
to get that. But then it makes some sense because
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he only won the races that he was going to
have a chance to win. He was generally going to
be in good equipment, but he did that. He won
his sixth in nineteen seventy two, which was his forty
sixth start over what probably eight years, I don't know
when aj started doing NASCAR races, but probably in the
sixty four, sixty five, sixty six range in there, so
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that was an interesting one as well. And then Connor
Zilich won his tenth race of the season in Infinity
and that's where we'll lead us back to our with
Indy Car and the five hundred, and we talked about
how there are just a limited number of seats available,
and we chatted last week that you know, my best
(05:12):
guess was that Ryan Hunter Ray would probably be in
the fourth McLaren car. And you say, I think maybe
he'll still end up with drying Ryan Bold did at
asking around and now I see why you. You might
have heard that he may be testing for drying Ryan
Bold at Indianapolis. So I went and asked some sources
(05:32):
what happened, and then I did get a few people
to tell me, yeah, it wasn't just common sense. We've
also heard that he was headed to McLaren, that that
was all but done. So maybe that still happens. I'm
not going to say it doesn't happen. And I have
and I'll say this too. I have some pretty good
sources within that team. Jack Harvey is not one of them,
(05:55):
so I didn't really get into direct sources. I'm not
going to put Jack in that position where he either
tells me and I can't say anything, or doesn't want
to tell me to get in trouble. So I have
not traded messages with Jack in quite some time, other
than congratulations on your deal being done, which had been
done for a little while, but it got announced recently.
(06:15):
So that's not one of my sources. Dennis rein Bold
is not one of you know, I have secondary sources,
so who knows. But it makes me think, And this
is what's more fun about it is speculation because just
to go win the race and give yourself the best
chance to win Ryan Hunterray makes sense. But what doesn't
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make sense are the dollars in cents? So what are
McLaren's priorities for that extra seat? I had heard it
could be had for two million dollars, which is about
a half a million more than what is generally the
going rate. But they know it's going to be a
good seat. Have they found someone to bring budget? Because
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I don't know who they could find. I would say
Connor Daily is another one. Connor could be in that
both situation where Connor is there with Ryan Hunterray. Now
he doesn't have a win like Ryan Hunter Ray, but
he's very accomplished. But we don't think Ryan is attached
to a sponsor. Connor, especially in a McLaren car, could
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raise that pretty quickly. So I start with him. But
it's not because someone has said I think Connor is
in that seat. That's just who's the best available and
who can raise some money do they want to splash?
One theory I've heard is that it was a lot
of work managing the partnership with Henrick, not necessarily Kyle Larson,
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but there's just a lot of people and think about
it from this and this wasn't cited as an example,
but it's one I would use. They didn't know an
hour before the race in twenty twenty three whether the
driver is going to be able to participate. Now, granted
rain got in the way of things, but that just
had to take a lot of time and effort. And
(08:04):
I've heard they don't really want to go down that
path again, But that's the path I'm going to bring
up as a possibility, and where I get back to
Connor Zilich, And we've thrown his name out there before
he's someone that I think has said I'd like to
do the Indy five hundred. Justin Marx is basically his boss,
and Justin Marx has told me and many other people,
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I want to do the Indy five hundred. I want
to program there. Kind of thought it would always be
more on his own. And I don't know if McLaren
would let you brand it track House McLaren or track
House Aera McLaren anything else, but maybe. And then here's
another reason why he gave me pause to think about
Connor Zilich. Again. If I didn't hear Kevin Harvick's podcast,
(08:50):
I should watch. He's in the Fox Family. But he
said on the most recent episode, who was it they
had on? Oh maybe it was. Was it a Kyle
Larson or something? They were just kind of talking about
who would be the next driver to do it, and
he mentioned he still said I think Kyle Busch would
(09:12):
do it, but he mentioned Connor Zilich and he said
he should do it now. And this made a lot
of sense because if you do it like Larson in
the middle of your career. Oh, it was Bob Pocras
was the guest. He was asking Bob from Fox Sports,
and Bob responded with, well, don't you think you want
to have a little more leverage and have won a
(09:32):
Cup title before you go off and do extracurriculars. And
Kevin Harvick's reasoning was, no, you actually want to do
it early in your career, before you are expected to
win a Cup title where you maybe don't have as
many other life distractions as well that a nineteen or
a twenty year old does as a rookie. Next year,
Connor Zillach should not be expected to make should not
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be expected to win the Cup title. Now maybe he does,
or maybe he at least makes it into the play.
So I'm wondering if that's just sound reasoning or does
maybe Kevin Harvick knows something. He also said, by the way,
that Connor Zilich is the one from our world that
could have done F one, and I remember throwing his
name out over the winner that if he was willing
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to do it, I could have seen Andrette ETWG Motorsports
Cadillac F one doing like the Colton hurd a deal
putting him in an F two car to learn more
about Formula car racing. But he's getting paid a lot
of money to drive stock cars right now, so that's
a little risky.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Well, and you say all that because he has you know,
he had such a good karting career to begin with.
That's really you know, he sort of comes from the
world that that was his path. Yeah, that's his path,
and it certainly aligns very well. He has said, at
least to the best of mine recollection, that I would
like to do the ND five hundred. The only thing
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is that I can shoot a hole in the the
Harvick and this is a wild shot. To the negative
is or to the theory is that I think he
will be a championship contender next year. I mean he's won.
He's won ten of the twenty eight Infinity races. I
mean he this is an Infinity season pursuit like we've
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not seen in recent years. Ten wins already. He's won
at Indianapolis on the Oval, he's won at Gateway, he's
won at Portland. I'm thinking he's won. You know, he's
got as many wins on IndyCar tracks as anybody not
named not named Alex Below or Kyle Kirkwood this year.
So it's anyway, it's interesting. I think I think Justin
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Marx will be the path. It is interesting that he
drives for JR Motorsports or Junior Motorsports, depending on how
you call it. And you know Hendrick's done this. Hendricks
a cohenner of that team, and Dale Junior is very
intrigued by Indy as well. But I think Justin Marx
is the path, and I think that Justin Marx is
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going to want to do it as a track house deal.
I just don't know that. I don't know that. I
just have that sense. He seems like and I don't
know Justin very well, but I just feel like that
would be it would he would want that to be
a track house deal, not an arrow McLaren deal.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Maybe it can be, though it can be. It could
be for the right amount of money. So it's two
million if you want to drive a McLaren car, it's
four million if you want to own the whole program,
and then it becomes a track house McLaren entry. You
know what is your name goes first. And in reality,
he's going to need to do that. He's not going
to once because he's going to want to be competitive.
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He's going to have to partner with the thought had
always been Chip Ganassi Racing. He gave Chip forty million
dollars or something like that for the NASCAR charters, and
he drove for Chip previously, so that made some sense,
and that could still happen because Chip could run an
extra car next year, because I don't think they're going
to have a team in sports car racing again next year.
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That's one of the other sports car developments is that
I thought maybe they would get the Ford contract, but
Ford is going to run it in house as a
full factory program in wek and May. They've not announced
EMSE yet, but they assumingly would come to IMSA. So
I don't think that Ganassi has a sports car program
again next year. I think they are doubling their Indie
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Next entries, which is how we're going to get to
twenty four as a Max, and I think there's a
good chance that that happens.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
I think it's got to be Aera McLaren over Chip
Ganassi Racing, because that's a Chevy program. They're a Chevy team,
They're a Chevy. I mean, he's been a Chevy year,
doesn't it. Yeah, it's it's I just don't see how
you know a Chevy Cup driver is going to go
get to run a Honda in Indy five hundred right now.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
So that's just a theory out there right now. And
one so while McLaren Aaron McLaren might love to have
the knowledge and teammate capabilities of Ryan Hunter Ray, if
and Justin Marx is magnificent at raising money, he could
raise the money for the attention that he knows how
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to generate and that Connor Zilich is going to generate.
I don't think that'll be hard raising a couple of
million dollars for Zillage to run the Indy five hundred.
So if you're mclaar and you're looking at all, right,
we can pay or find the sponsorship for Ryan Hunterray
to run, or we can get paid to have Connor
Zillach and maybe develop a relationship where he does this
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thing two or three times and you know, maybe it's
not every year, maybe it depends on where he's at,
But wouldn't you like to have that as a part
of your program. This guy might be the best that
we've seen in a long time to be a lot
to be determined on that, but he's on that path
to be the latest as good as slice bread, you
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know kind of thing. So anyway, we'll just keep an
eye on that moving forward, and who knows, maybe this
is all subterfuge and Hunter Ray ends up back in
a McLaren car at some point, but I'd like to
see him stay with with Dryan Rein. But mostly I
just won him in the race, and I was kind
of excited about that because that would open up a
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seat if Connor Daily doesn't get a full time seat,
that would be a good place for him to be,
to be back at Dryan Reinbold in a really good car.
So those are a couple of things going on. We
had some young drivers and some not quite as young
that probably aren't headed to Indy Car test at mid Ohio.
The evaluation day quote evaluation for former Formula One driver
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for Lee by Nazer, who was a multi time champion
in imsub He was the quickest of the day, but
just barely over Neil's Colan. The indie next driver for
Chip Ganassi Racing was three hundreds of a second off
the best LAFE time of Felipe Nasser. This is what
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I from what I have, and I think this is
courtesy of racer dot Com, but I saw some other
outlets had posted some times as well. Kyle Collette was
another tenth Yeah, about a tenth off in the aj
Foyd car. Kaku Ota Honda driver for Meyer Shank Racing
was about a half a second off. Actually those are
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morning times. Yeah, I need to find some and then
Dennis Hower because what I'm looking at has no time
because it looks like Dennis Hauger crashed on pretty much
the outlap and then I think crashed again later but
did have pretty representative time. So I think I've got
a screenshot of the final times from somewhere else in there.
What stands out to me one Neil's Colon two. We
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don't know how many tires everybody used. Maybe Nils threw
on a sticker set every eight laps or something like that,
but still you have to produce the time. I like
what I saw from Kyle Collette, and we expected him
to be good enough. Now, which is going to come
down to whether they can all find the budgets. But
if they can find the budget, I would think Floyd
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would find that he's pretty acceptable.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
So we'll get to testing next week. But Kyle Colet's
going to go again with Foight. I mean, I think
that's the one that makes sense as we start to
watch this landscape for twenty twenty six start to materialize
in a concrete manner, I think Kyle Collette seems to
me to be headed for a full time job with
with AJ Foyt racing in next season's calendar, alongside Santino Ferrucci,
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So that that starts to give us some additional clarity,
you know, And I've thought a lot of this talent.
I thought his you know, you watch the next race
is even closer than I did. But I think I
think he's got a shot. I think he's got a
shot to be to hold his own next year if
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he can get that full time. See, it pretty much
generally comes down to budget. You know they're going to end,
but it is a pendulum. It's not that, you know,
what they'd love to have is a really good driver
who brings ten million dollars. That's what a proper program costs,
and you could pretty easily spend eleven or twelve and
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doing it on the cheap now is probably six seven.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Million, and I'm not sure that's even possible, but somewhere
in that range. So you know, anybody of his caliber
that can bring six million plus is going to be
hired immediately. That's just going to happen. Now. The question though,
is all right, what if he only has two or
three million? Is Foyd willing to subsidize? Can they make
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that work to find him the seat? Because I know
it was not a snap of the finger for him
to find the anywhere between eight hundred thousand and one
point five million it costs for the Indie Next program.
That was a challenge for he and his supporters, and
it was like most of them touch and go at times.
So it's not like he can just generate three million
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dollars immediately. Here's what I see from Jefferson Kern who
had had some pictures. Jefferson I think is a brazil
maybe a Brazilian journalist, and he had NASA Quickest, then Kyo,
then Hauger third quick, then Neil's Colon. So those are
the morning times I posted. So Colin was nine tenths off,
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and then kaku Oda was one point one second soft.
But Nazar Collette, it looks like Collette was only tenth off.
Felipe Nazar in a Penske car. So you're getting something
done there. So that was a positive test and I'm
happy to hear that he's going to get another go.
Getting to go a second time tells me that they
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are serious about this, and there looks like there is
at least a potential path toward making that happen. A
week from today, right is the next time we're going
to see somebody in any car at the Indianapolis Motor
Speedway next Monday on the road course. It's been previously
reported and actually confirmed by all parties that Mick Schumacher
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is going to be in a ray Hall Letterman Landinggan car,
and I think we all also agree that's not just
making use of the evaluation day, that this is a
proper tryout to see how he goes, see how he
likes it, and then maybe see if they can find
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the funding to back him. Yeah, I think we know
about anybody else. Do we know about anybody else that's
going to be there?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, Kyle koalit and there'll be a couple of evaluation drivers,
Lackey Hughes being one of them. Dennis Hager would get
a second chance in a dale Coin car. ECR is
going to use the test day I'm going to have
its two drivers on the track, and I think there's
still one more.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
I'm going to let him use their current driver. CCR
is using Rossi and Ras.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, who goes Hollinger is going to do that?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Surprises me a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Who goes Hollinger is going to do a car? And
I'll let them. I don't think that one's been announced.
I'm going to let that one stand out there for
a few more days and let them let them announce it.
But good for them, it's a driver evaluation. His son no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Well his son just did a day the next car
and his son just won British F four race. So
that's a big leap to go from British F four
uh to Indy car. So who was it? It's a
sports car driver. I think Marshall Pru had had this
that they were meant to do something. It was a
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Nico Varoni that they were trying to do something with
at mid Ohio and it didn't happen. So Nico Varoni
is from Argentina, so there's a connection there and he
will be at so I'll ask Nico this weekend. He'll
be at Petite Lama running as the third driver on
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the number four Corvette team a Tommy Milder Niki Katzberg.
But he is a very well regarded former junior formula
driver who has well, I think he's done some maybe
F one testing or something like that, but he is
a very highly rated talent. So that name has been
out there and there is the connection from Argentina like
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Ricardo Hunko.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
So we shall see a couple days of testing this
week actually before we get to next Monday at Worldwide
Technology Raceway. We'll see the debut in an official debut
because we actually have seen David Malucas in a Team
Penske car previously. That was in an evaluation day a
couple of years ago, and he is one of the
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couple three at least two that I know of that'll
be at Worldwide Technology Raceway tomorrow and Wednesday, I believe,
for the two days. So we'll see how David likes that.
I'm sure he's going to much to talk about tomorrow.
It's got to be like, you know, kid in a
candy store, first day of school, whatever you want to
describe it. I think his excitement is going to be
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off the charts and we'll see Big Dave, Little Dave
go to Big Dave as he transitions to a Team
Penske driver.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
By the way, going back to the Middle Ohio test,
I think the reports were that Kyle Kollett was the
only one who did not crash. Now, some of the
crashes were not significant. I saw a picture of one
of Hawger's and it was pretty significant. But not only
was he quick, but he didn't cause any damage. So
that's always a positive and that helps you get an
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extra test.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
One thing about the Japanese driver, he was the only
one who had not been to midd Ohio previously, so
that he was last of five or six, you know,
shouldn't really be a surprise. I hear great things about him.
He is third in the super Formula Japan formula series
where Alex Plot came from. He's got three wins already.
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I think he's kind of the next rising star of
Japanese drivers. And you know, I think he's got a
shot not in twenty twenty six, but twenty seven. It
seems like a possibility.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Good well, if he has a shot in twenty seven,
that would bode well for Honda. Still continuing because I
don't think he's going to be here if Honda is
not a part of IndyCar, because I believe their contract
ends at the end of twenty six, still believe burning
questions that this. I feel like this has been decided
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and they are doing a fantastic job of keeping it
quiet because we don't know about their participation in NASCAR either,
and I don't know if they can do both. And
the entree in the NASCAR is generally the truck series.
You start out there and then you eventually make your
way up to Cup And that seemed to be a
foregone conclusion over a year ago that they were headed.
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And then one of the theories was they found out
what that was going to cost, and it is significantly
more than what IndyCar will cost. And you know, you
can debate the merits of which one is better, which
one is not. You know, there's a cool factor involved
with IndyCar, but a stock car looks more like a
car that you're going to sell, so pluses and minuses.
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You know, one has the Indy five hundred, one has
a lot of events. But you know, now we're to
the point IndyCar ratings, at least once you get to
football are not far off of what Cup races are.
They're getting one four to one seven four races on
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cable because they have a long schedule and they have
to go against the NFL. And I'm telling you, if
somehow they could magically make their season ends when Indy
Cars does, they would do it because it is a
losing battle if television ratings matter, especially if you're on cable.
And it's an another reason why the IndyCar television deal
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was masterful to get every single race on network television.
So even a bad day is still a good day,
you know. Now IndyCar is getting half on bad days
of what NASCAR is getting on their bad days. They
used to get a fifth of what NASCAR was getting.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
You know, I think I'm a great example of it.
You know, I certainly follow racing on on multiple levels,
but I watched probably five football games over the weekend,
and there's.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Just not to work hard. I had to work hard
to watch the NASCAR race, and I felt I wanted
to see it. I hadn't watched a race in like
three weeks, and I felt bad. Those are all my
friends on that broadcast, the producer, the director, you know,
Diffy everybody, and I feel like, and I also understand
that's my business. I'm not really in the football business anymore,
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but i still like to watch football. So that's the
challenge that they have. And you know, I saw Denny
Hamlin had some pointed comments and they took the money
they took. That's what you get when you do cable.
They're going to pay you more than being on network television.
And they have I think nine more years of this
deal or something like that where they only have six
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or seven races a year on network television, and I
feel like they're all going to panic and are they
going to change the playoff structure? You know, if there
wasn't a playoff situation. I found yesterday's race interesting as
to whether Ross Chasteam was going to make it or
a star a champion in Joey Logano. That came down
to the very final lap, the final corner as to
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who was going to make that. Had they not had that,
You've got SBG, a guy not in the playoffs, winning
by fifteen seconds, and then what you have, So it
did lead you to something for this particular race. I'm
intrigued to see what a full season points system would
be like, and they're thinking about it again because they
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feel like they got to do something. I'm told at
the beginning of the year that was not in play
that maybe we'll tweak the playoff structure, but we would
never think about going back to the old system. I
think it's still more likely it's a change to a
playoff system. But this just simple points. And that's the
other thing. I'm in the business, and it's confusing me too,
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playoff points and how does it work? And I saw
something today that they're not even sure if the graphic
was correct, that Chastain was maybe in when he decided
to pile drive Denny Hamlin to get that spot in
the last corner. So sometimes, when you know people have
a hard time watching thirty six straight weeks or thirty
(28:43):
six out of thirty eight, maybe you do want to
go back to some simplicity. There's no perfect answer. I
feel for him. Yeah, I agree with you. It's between
stage points and chase points, and you know, I can't
keep all that in my head with thirty six cars,
you know, much less watch thirty six races. All right,
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some business of IndyCar, some positive news on that, and
we'll get to your tweets. Up next track side ninety
three to five one oh seven five to the fan. Hi,
this is Scott McLachlin and you'll listen to trackside on
ninety three five and one I seven five the fan. Okay.
Another item from Racer Magazine last week. This was very
pleasant news to read that. Marshall Proud writes that multiple
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sources tell Racer Penske Entertainment recently informed its entrance of
a plan to add five hundred thousand dollars to each
Leader Circle contract for twenty twenty six, to rise to
nearly one point seven million dollars per contract, would represent
the largest year to year increase since the program is
created in two thousand and two. It's been thought to
be about a million here at this point, and he
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mentions in the article that likely no coincidence since Fox
purchased thirty three percent of the series, so Penske Entertainment
may be reinvesting. Nothing official yet. You may not be
able to comment because you've not been asked, You've not
written a press release yet. Since this out right, it
seems like pretty solid information and no one has refuted
this at this point.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, I've not been asked to edit or write press
release or even read it. So I've not seen it
other than what Marshall wrote. And you know, obviously, you know,
you've got to think about the infrastructure of your program,
you know, and that includes maybe even starts with your participants.
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So the better what the better shape they're in, the
better shape you're in. So it always makes good sense
to invest in your stakeholders, employees, however you want to
phrase your constituents.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
So now you're up to that is getting close to being,
you know, fifteen percent or so of a reasonable budget,
and it is something that is basically everybody found a
half a million dollar sponsor, which is not Jump Change.
So that is a significant deal and that's what we
want to see in that regard new races. Sports Business
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Journal reported that IndyCar is exploring a potential street course
race in Cleveland for twenty twenty eight, according to a
survey sent to local leaders that was seen by SBJ.
So I think, I'll say, and by the way, it's
not Burke Lakefront Airports, different location. I don't know if
that's not viable anymore. I was never there. Is that
close to downtown? Is that close to stuff? It is,
(31:30):
it is okay, so maybe it's not viable anymore, or
maybe they figure light figure something else would be a
little more aesthetically pleasing, would be literally walking distance from
restaurants and so forth. Here's what I will say. I
think Fox has made it clear that they're looking to
help create big events, but we'll probably see more of these.
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I would just take a map where there are NFL
stadiums and just say any one of these is a possibility.
And who knows how deep along the lines this is.
Maybe it's just because somebody leaked it. I have no
idea whether this is real or not, but I would
think they either have or will kick the tires on
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every major market where there is a great, big parking
lot in a football stadium that is somewhere close to things.
So cross off landover Maryland. That's not close to a
lot of things. But those are the types of things
that they're looking and it's not going to be fourteen
races like that. They're going to want to try to
find the two or three best that come together, because
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you're going to have to cast a wide net to
find those one or two or three because as we
all know, there are a lot of obstacles in the
way to being able to get a temporary event completed.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know, I was thinking about that. I was going
through the NFC teams and their stadiums because that's where
Fox is dominantly plays during football season. Is in the NFC,
not the AFC. Cleveland's in AFC, Denver is an AFC.
So anyway, it's just interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Has Denver changed because when I first started hearing about this,
I had not heard that they were building a new stadium.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
They are building a new stadium.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Well, does that change things? Yeah, I'm not sure, but
we know how that went in Tennessee. If they build
a new stadium, that means there's no no place available
for the next little while. So yeah, we'll need to
have some more update on those things. As you know,
they're never done until they're done. Mexico City, Poto Award.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Was on.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Was it Connor's podcast? He was on some sort of
podcast and he wants Mexico City to be the opener
for IndyCar And you know, as we've said before, Poto
does not mix words. He's direct, He's not going to
cover for anyone. And his basic response has been yeah,
with the options that were available. This was not winnable
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for IndyCar. The option to run there in twenty six
was not good, so we need to make it right.
He wants it to be the season opener at the
end of February. Only problem that there is we have
a pretty good event that runs at the end of
February in the beginning of March. So I get you
got to look out for number one, and if I'm Potto,
I want that to be the season opener too. But
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unless there's some financial benefit for IndyCar that supersedes everything else,
I'm not super interested in bumping a well established events
in America. Now, can we make if Phoenix doesn't work out,
which that's all tbd? How this does, Week two could
be open, but I would prefer if that is still
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the date February twenty seventh of March, seconds that you
stick with what works now. If Mexico City can go
a week or two earlier, which we'd all like to do.
We'd all like to see the season start a little
bit earlier, get some more races in, or shorten the
off season a little bit than fine. But if it's
just booting Saint Pete, I don't know that that's the
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best option in my mind.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, I would agree with that. I would. I would
caution you to say that Saint Pete has not always
been that early in March, and it has not always
been the season opener. So so those two things are true.
But I think I would want to start in the
US from a just a media standpoint, from you know,
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if I could start, if I could start in Saint Petersburg,
that would be my preference.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Now as I think out loud, Saint Pete used to
enjoy being on Indiana spring break time, and they might
welcome being the second week, but then you run into
potentially going head to head with Seabring. You know, when
you're March first ish, you know you're never going to
go head to head with Seabring. Used to be oftentimes
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one week apart the.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
First the first eleven or twelve years of the of
the IndyCar Saint Pete because they did run one year
under the cart banner, but after the IndyCar Series began
there they ran eleven or twelve years. The first first
eleven or twelve years was the last weekend of March
or the first couple of days of April, so it
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was essentially a month later in the schedule. So you know,
it's only been the last you know, really last year
was the first time they went to March, you know,
like March second, and you know they've done that that
first week of March here now a couple times. But
I even did a February race. But you know, typically,
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or at least for most of this event's history, it's
been the end of March, which which is the Indiana's
Midwest spring break time.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yep, it's working pretty well where it's at, and so
I need to hear more though, you know, if we
can be convinced that this Mexico City Race is going
to be awesome and it just slots in quite well
to have somewhere else, but ideally you're opening up in
America unless I think, unless it gets your season started earlier.
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All right, bring back Chicago in is the Twitter? Not Jacob? Sorry?
What's Indy next? Testing that auto been Ali had four?
Is it a general test day for the teams with
Penske buy any tracks from NASCAR if they lose the
trial against twenty three to eleven. If the judge forced
NASCAR to sell So the test at Autobon a couple
of weeks ago. Is just an evaluation test day for
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Indie Next teams for drivers that have not driven an
Indie Next car before. Don't see. That's not going to
be a race location. It's just an approved track where
junior Formula team, sports car teams and so forth can test.
I cannot see Penske buying any more tracks. I believe
they have enough going on at this point because they
could just rent them. If they feel like they want
to control an event, they can just rent it for
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the day.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, I don't see that. You know, they're as far
as you know tracks or I guess venues where IndyCar
has been in the past that's still like Richmond is
the one that you would discuss as opposed to a
Chicago land or you know, maybe being somewhere else. Autubon,
I believe, is the place where Bobby Rainghall has a garage,
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mahal kind of thing he does. Yeah, that's loyalty and
I've been there to see Bobby's place, and you know
that's that's not an IndyCar racetrack.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So Hector Serrano asked this last week after you left,
so you can look into this is the FIA going
you get the call to take over IndyCar officiating. What's
the word on this? It's almost October now, it is October.
Not really in a hurry on my part, but is
there something in the works, so you let us know
when you hear on that front of it. Who is
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taking over IndyCar officiating next year.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
They're just dying to tell me, to tell tracks what's
happening with that. But it, like the Honda thing, it
is something. You know, we've been kind of waiting to
hear what the what the resolution is because they have
been they have just you know, Doug Bowles has talked
about this on a number of occasions, but we don't
yet have clarification on how this is going to look.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
They got a lot of things to work on at
this point.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I sure do.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
From Ken one k Moose will be a good street
course race to a ten IndyCar next season. I've only
been to Ovals well, I love Saint Pete and Long Beach.
Don't know anything about the new Toronto events, so we'll
all find out together on that.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, I mean a Long Beach is just a lot
of fun. Saint Pete just always feels good based on
the weather and so forth. I was looking at the
looking at the list. Yeah, I mean I think I
think Saint Pete is the answer. I think I think
Arlington is going to have a lot of buzz. I
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think you're going to find. I mean it is you're
talking about conveniently located to you know a lot of
things that are fun. I think I think Arlington takes
those boxes.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
But I just none of us can speak to what
the sitelines are unless you purchase a correct and you
know how expensive this hospitality and things along that regard.
I like Detroit, but I don't know that people would
put that, as you know, super high up on their
You know, one thing with Detroit you get is you
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get an m's a race too, if that's important to
you to see some extra racing, which is what you
can also get a long beach. It's tough, so I'll
say this about street races. It's tough to just have
a GA ticket and really get a good look at
the track. So if you do a GA, you're just
there to walk about and experience the event. But if
you want to have some good vantage points from GA,
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you're going to a place like barber Well Road America
where you don't need to buy a ticket, you just
walk around and you're going to have plenty of good
places where you can see things. Whereas I found it
at Saint Pete, I think you need to get up
in that grandstand at the exit of turn one if
you really want to see what's happening. There are some
places where the media center is what's that building that's
(41:18):
not is that the Mahafe Theater.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
It is the Mahaffe Theater.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
So along there you can see them coming down Lake
Shore whatever the road is called. They're the one that
goes into Turn ten and Dan Weldon Way. You get
a good glimpse of the cars there, and that's where
a lot of people just ga kind of congregate, and
I think there might be a video board there where
you can kind of hang out as as well.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I think if I was just going to an event
to feel the vibe, though, I'd go to Long Beach.
I mean, there is so much, There is so much
going on, and you can walk to the to the
paddocks and you know, you can you can really be
a part of the event without actually seeing the race cars.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Alex came in seventeen seventy six says, why did the
hype of the hybrid die off and the race day
discussion about it shoes during the broadcast fall off to
basically nothing? Watching races on Fox after the five hundred,
the guy's hardly ever mentioned it. I don't know that
we find it super interesting. So I'm not involved in
that conversation because I'm not in the booth. That's more
of a booth led discussion. But I don't think it's
(42:23):
enough to really I think the feeling would be this
is not going to get we like to talk about
Aunt Linda. What's going to interest Aunt Linda. We're trying
to bring new people in and grow the audience, and
confusing them and overwhelming them about hybrid probably is not
the way to do it. They've already got us and
(42:46):
they have me, and I don't care about hybrid. Hybrid
is here because it was important to one of the manufacturers.
It's important to the auto industry as well. I get it.
I get why that's important to say your car is hybrid.
That does seem to be the future, was it? The
head of four just recently said, yeah, this electric thing
ain't working, but we do see a future in hybrid.
(43:06):
So I think we're all wrestling with why we really
want to spend a whole lot of time on this.
There's only so much time available.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Well, even the even the conversation about just push to
pass in general is it. There's a couple points during
a race where it would come up, but it's not
like it's a huge Everybody kind of uses it the same.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
They use it the same way, yeap. So when everybody
uses the same there's been enough one for a long time.
How much conversation did they talk about hybrid other than
every once in a while, you have to they're managing
their hybrid. It is a passing reference that fans general
fans do not care about. And that's kind of and
that's a challenge for the manufacturers. I don't know. We
(43:54):
never heard from anyone saying, you guys have to talk
about hybrid. I think they're going to trust Fox do
what they think is best from an entertainment standpoint, and
so far we've not really found what makes this super
interesting to people. Maybe that will change, and maybe we'll
change too as the hybrid gets more powerful, as it
becomes a more powerful push to pass, which might come
(44:15):
with the next generation. All right, we'll see what we
missed and more coming up next on Trackside, Hi, this
is Graham ray Hall and you're listening to Trackside on
ninety three five and one oh seven five the fan.
A few Twitter or X questions, Lynn underscore IndyCar says,
or ask. Could Andretti Global become the Dodgers of IndyCar.
They have so much money that they can sign any
(44:36):
driver or team member. They're well financed and coincidentally twg
owns the Dodgers and Andretti, so there is a connection there,
Dana ask. Is the new Andrette building the Fisher's airport
solely being used for Cadillac F one? Yes, because of
F one cost cap deals, they have to be totally separate.
No IndyCar work can be done there, or vice versa.
(44:59):
Esf one says, is Renu's Vick still in the picture
for a twenty twenty six Indy Car seat or is
he wearily dug himself to contractless Grave. That's one of
the questions we need answered. I have to believe he
has something and we should learn something soon. Out of time.
We'll see you next Tuesday night at seven o'clock join
us for him. So from Road Atlanta, Petite lamon this
(45:20):
weekend with Peacock and NBC
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