March 4, 2025 • 40 mins
It's Ash's turn to update Matty J on what's been happening while he's been in the throws of the jungle.
During a tiny blip of focus, Ash has decided to test for ADHD, which has inevitably kicked off the process of diagnosis.
While the process has been confronting, Ash quickly discovers why being diagnosed is worthwhile.
Meanwhile, an Aussie TV star has saved Matt's life, and Ash feels forced into doing this one thing at the park.
Keep in mind this chat mentions thoughts of self-harm; here are some helpful resources in Australia:
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Alcohol and Drug Foundation (ADF): Offers information, advice, and services to help with addiction recovery.
- Website: adf.org.au
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Beyond Blue: Provides support for mental health issues, often linked with addiction.
- Helpline: 1300 22 4636
- Website: beyondblue.org.au
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Lifeline: Offers crisis support for individuals in need.
- Helpline: 13 11 14
- Website: lifeline.org.au
Each organisation offers resources, hotlines, and guidance on seeking help and managing recovery.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Do you know one thing I hate at a kid's
path meth addicts? No, I like them, they're they're good fun.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, what do I hate? What do you hate? Can
I have one more guess?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yes? What would Ash hate? Should I just get to it?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bubblers that don't work?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No? I hate the flying fox. When you go to
a park that has a big flying fox. Have you
seen those? They're great, great fun. But I always get
roped into the one parent who keeps going back and forth,
but for not just my kid, all the kids that
join in. What do you mean, how are you getting
roped into that? Okay, so I go with Oscar one second.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome back to two doting dads. I'm Maddie Jay and
I'm Ash. This is a podcast all about parenting. It
is the good, it is the bad. And look, we
don't give any advice. But what we do do do
do is talk about flying foxes. Continue we do do.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Indeed talk about flying foxes. So Oscar just bear with me, Oscar, Daddy,
I want to go on the flying fox. No problems,
go over, help him onto the flying fox. It goes down,
you've got to bring it back up. Usually you'd bring
it back up for the next parent to help their
child on. But for some reason, every time I do
it with Oscar, I go to take it back. There's
(01:27):
no other parent and there's like ten kids, and then
they all can't reach it, so I've got to go
back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Feel like the age of a child to use a
flying fox without parental supervision is around about five. Anything
under concerning anything out.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Of that, I'm looking for consent from a parent.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Would you hand a four year old a flying fox
unaccompanied by an adult?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, you got it, man, you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's a a harsh world out there, and these kids
need to learn.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, but the thing is like, what, like why can't
other parents come over and help me?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
They just yeah, they're like it's okay, no do it
because they're like, oh my god, look at that good
Samaradan dad out there who's relaying like back and forth.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I hate that you have set this up, You set
the standard. I hate that so much. You just want
to I've got I had two kids. If I wanted
to do that for ten kids, I would have had
ten kids. Fuck the other kids to stop them, just
push them off. You reckon, just like another parent they don't.
I've been starting, like all of Christmas holidays, we would
go to this one park called Flying Fox Park. If
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you go to a flying Fox park with your kids,
the expectation is that you have to help your kid
on the flying Fox, not a random other parent. Right,
It's unlike you to be so caring. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's just I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect you to be the one.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Who being like that idiot dad helping out all these
other kids who doesn't even know.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's weird. Why how have you? How has this happened?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It just happened too many times in the heat of summer.
But just tell us, like, that's the thing. Then I
have to deprive my kid from going on it. So
now I was like, can we go? I'm like, oh, soon, soon, soon,
we're doing something else because I know as soon as
I go over there, Timmy, Jimmy, Sally and Susie, you're
going to come up and I'm doing laps of the
flying Fox. Let him, let him be, let him suffer. Well,
(03:21):
then they're just going to stand there. That's life, bro,
that is life.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Flying Fox Park is really just a lesson for what
life is like in the real world.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I don't know if you're on my side or not.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't know either. I had a little session at
the park. Hang on, I got a sneeze. One second.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're a plane. That was good, bless you. I reckon
it was a cessna. You are autistic. You're a divergent actually, which.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We'll get into later. Before before we do that, okay,
before do that. Do you remember Tom Williams from Benhams
and Gardens. Tom Williams very handsome man, what.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I recall, very hand gorgeous. He's a bit older than us.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right now, he's I think he's let me just check,
can confirm that his age. He's fifty four, Still gorgeous, stunning.
He's a carpenter. Imagine that rocking up to your house
to fix your back, like.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Hire a hubby. Yeah, imagine if I know what sort
of person he would be on a night out. You
know what you're getting right there?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
What are you getting? Don't disrespect him? I'm not What
are you getting? I don't want to say, because I'll
just respect him.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He's the loveliest, but the haircut. He's probably really lovely guy.
That haircut back in the day, screamed one thing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
We all had haircuts like that. He has like a
bit for those he has a bit of a mohawk
kind of cut. But he saved my life.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
He looks like Ben Cousins, look like Ben Cousins, and
we all know what he was about.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
How do you how doare you compare the two? He
saved my life. I was at a park literally or
just literally. I was back back in the od stomping
ground around Bondai. Decided Thursday Daddy day. Take my kid
plus my niece from the jungle to the urban jungle.
Some might say, very good from you, Thank you. You should
(05:12):
be a copywriter.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's it for me.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Went to what's called not Flying Fox Park rocket Ship Park.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We have a rocket ship park too.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's not about you, it's about me. Isn't have a
big rocket in the middle, hence the name it does
you know your rocket ship? It was a chain of
parks called rocket Ship Park. It's a great park. It's
a cracking park. I've just finished. It's really beautiful. Went there,
went there, must have been there for like I want
to say, were there for about five minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
What happened started raining. Oh yeah, I don't have enough.
They don't have any cover, no cover at the rocket
Ship parks. It's the cover. The rocket ship's too high
for cover. It's a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, it's it's the Achilles heel of the rocket ship.
The rain. Yeah, it's over, it's over. So I was,
I did. There's a metal slide and Laola was like,
I'm going on it, and I was like, oh nuts.
You know when metal gets wet, it gets very slippery.
She she flew out of there. You know, you know
(06:16):
when something's happening and it text you a second to realize,
and I was, I was about three meters away from
the slide, but I saw her flying down.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I just kind of went. I was frozen. She flying
off the end and she it was like long jump.
She must have got four meters straight onto her like
bumps straight onto the back. Combo were like, was it
like it was?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Thank Heaven, it's the rocket ship parks. All the new
ones have soft landing parks.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Would have been like back in parents. I was like,
I went too fast in the slide.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
She would have had a bottom skin. Luckily she was okay.
But then I was like, this is too dangerous. I'm
pulling the pin on the rocket ship park. Okay, problem, Yeah,
I didn't have a car, it's with him walking. Just nah,
I got the bus there, didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I bustin they've got a bus. I got the basket
of the bus.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But the issue is ash issue is it was a
bit of a walk from the bus stop, so I
couldn't get a bus back home. Tried to call a
TAXI couldn't get my mate.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Why do they even have a phone number anymore? Like
you just sit there on all day to fifteen minutes.
It reminds me of the city to serve.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Remember, yes, can we just allow children, babies and ubers,
like if they're allowed in calves, let them in an
uber without.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
A baby seat.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Canning, Queensland may change the rules. We're living in the
dark ages here in New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
State state by state laws is a joke.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Isn't there an election coming up? We should campaign the
dad party the dad party no baby seats and ubers?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That could be no, yeah, that could be our main thing,
Like any man, woman or child should be able to
ride an uber without discrimination.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And more parental supervision at Flying Fox Parks.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
More shade and more cover. Oh, we are onto something.
This is good. Think of the people that would actually,
can you please look up how to create a political party? Please?
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes. Also, just to put another spanner in the works,
I had my knees. I had Lola. Guess who else
I had?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Nana had Nana.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know what nana's are like in the wet Yeah,
I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I was more worried about Lola. On Nana.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I was like, don't touch, that's OK, You're fine, And
I'm like, how the hell am I going to get home?
And then out of nowhere, Tom Williams. Tom Williams comes
walking through the park. He's just finished a meeting. Walking Yeah,
he don't tell me. He piggybacked you all and he said.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And I said, I'm trying to get home, and he goes,
don't worry, you can hop in my car.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And Lola was like, who is this guy? Not a stranger?
Nana was very happy to get the car of time.
Was she in front seat? No?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I put her in the back. Smart Tom Williams saved
my life.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That it's just dad's looking out for each other, just
one dad to another, one dad to another. So vote
one the political the dad political party. We look out.
We call it the party for the Dad party.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Like it's I now have to like with that good deed.
You know, I'm now looking to give my good deed
to another parent. You don't need any good deeds.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You're fine. Well I'm not, actually, and I have a
story about that. Not fine. Hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids about the hemorrhoids
were vicious while you were gone, And that was from
stress because stressed about you. I was worried about you,
not about me or my terrible lifestyle and my horrible
habits had nothing to do with that. It's all stress.
But we have some answers Matthew to why I am
(09:41):
like the way that I am? Okay, it's formal, so
we always joke. We joke a lot on these podcasts
about the poster boy for a particular it's a disorder disorder. Yeah,
there's got enough d's in there to add of disorder.
It's a disorder. I have formerly been diagnosed bias like
high triss as a severe let me finish a severe
(10:06):
case of adult ADHD. Do we class? Look, I didn't
know what to do. I was like, congratulations, I can't
say I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. We all knew. Now
(10:26):
that I know, it's it's way worse. I'm just like,
I found myself yesterday. Better. It's better the disorder. You
don't know, Yeah, I found myself yesterday. We're at the
PM's house for that thing you're doing, and I was
like staring off into the like into no man's landlight,
and then I'd be like, oh, oh shit. If someone's
(10:50):
like talking, was like ash, just this echo, like yeah,
it's quite a long process. I thought Matt's scaring at
the jungle and he pulled my finger out and do
something for myself off here? And can I ask?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Can I ask what made you want to get tested?
Because you've you're now in your.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
About one hundred and seventeen episodes of this podcast. I
listened back to all them. I was like, Fuck, that
guy needs some help.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Because you kind of think you've come this far. You're
in your mid thirties, you come this far, you know surely,
surely you know you're fine.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, it's getting worse. It's getting progressively worse. Really in
what way? Look, I know I know that I've always
had problems focusing. I know that I always I'm real scattery,
I'm real up and down, I move everything.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Don't? I'm happy? Shut up? And honestly it was I
knew it was getting worse. And then I started to
pay attention to some things that Oscar would do and
how okay, and you know he's five, he's he's you
know not. He just reminded me so much of what
(12:06):
of what I what like my brain and like what
the mannerisms and things like he cannot focus on anything?
What was Oscar doing that? He can't focus on me,
but he can hyper focus on a small on a
one small task and like for me, I used to
be able to hyper focus on things. And then can
I just refresh your memory? And I you know this,
(12:28):
But for the listeners, Ash, I don't know what it was.
But he was like, I'm really into Pokemon cards and
I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And you would watch you would watch people live stream
opening Pokemon cards and then you started collecting Pokemon cards.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And now I'm in severe debt.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeap just you were like locked into Pokemon car locked in.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Still bro, I am locked in. Actually I guess I
can harp a focus on that. But like I would
find that, I was like, Okay, well I can't. I can't.
I'm starting to become as focused as Oscar is, and
I'm an adult who like should be able to focus on.
I can't read an email. I can read like a
head of an email. I could learn a new skill
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like Rubik's cube. Took me one day to learn the
Rubik's cube, you know what I mean. But I can't.
I can't form a new habit. I can't build a
new habit, like just shit like that. And it's progressively
getting worse to the point where like I'm unmotivated to
do anything, like I'm unmotivated to get out of bed,
(13:31):
all this sort of stuff. That it was like, all right,
probably need to do something about it. Do you remember
and tell me if this is the case or not.
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It must have been like six months ago we had
a conversation about potentially getting diagnosed, and you said something
along the lines of you don't want to get medicated
because it's going to change who you are.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That's a common concern they say it because it's like
we talk about ADHD as you know, like a disorder
like a it's really bad, but it's also a superpowerful.
A lot of people, Like the psychiatrist said to me,
he said, you've gotten as far as you have done
now with what's going on in your head, but you're
obviously at a point in your life where you need
(14:14):
you need. I need to be able to create a routine,
have some sort of structure. I need to be able
to sleep properly. Like this's so like it takes me
like four hours to go to sleep. I'll just lay
there bro and my head will just just run the
whole time, the biggest one. And you'll notice it when
and you probably already notice it when that I noticed
(14:36):
when I come on the phone to someone and I'm
invested in our conversation and something so minute will get
my attention and I'll pull on that piece of string
and the complete conversation changes to me just I'm not
there anymore. And I've gotten to the point where I'm
doing that to family and stuff like that, and I'll
(14:58):
get off the phone and I'll go, fuck, I just
did that again. I'll have to ring, Like I rang
my sister back up yesterday and I was like, I'm
so sorry. You would having an actual important conversation with me,
and I didn't digest him. I didn't digest the back
end of I don't even know what happened because something
had caught my eye and I cannot refocus on that conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And it's tough because obviously your sister's going to be
very sympathetic because she understands you and you and who
you are. But I guess other people might be like
fuck ash, like that's.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Rude so many people, and I feel really bad. So
if you are on the phone to me and I
do tune out, it's a disorder now, okay, but yeah,
it's yeah, it just was getting to the point where
I have that's just put yourself in my shoes for
a moment. No motivation, no routine, no structure, no goals,
(15:55):
no interests. Like I was just like a blob. Yeah,
pretty much. And it's like I can't. It really really
hit me when I surfed the wavepool before you it
was before you left or during your left, I don't know.
I did hurt my back on the same session, but
I literally paddled out and I was like, I fucking
(16:16):
hate this and it was like why though, why is that?
Like why is your brain now associating this with something
that you hate, Like, yeah, is it because maybe that
I put too much pressure on myself to be the
best that I can be, but I don't have the
patience to work to be the best I could be.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So what was the process? Because I remember you saying
it was hard. I know you were kind of like
tiptoeing around getting tested. But it's not just a simple
make an appointment. Oh yeah, you like to do this test?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You have it? What does it look like? Step by step?
So this is the second time I've been down it
because we spoke about it last year. But it was
the referral I got then was to a particular clinic
that feel like they were quite big. So you sort
of get you sort of go into the conveyor belt
of process, if you will. And I felt like the
(17:12):
information was like the step was like it felt like
the test, you know what I mean? It was like,
I'm not going to get through all this shit. I
can't focus on one thing. How do you want me
to focus on fifteen different things before I can see
a psychiatrist who to say, Okay, what's going on, which
probably deters a lot of people. I got really lucky
(17:32):
because of Kisha. Keisha's such an advocate for it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
For people who don't know. It's Keisha from Life Uncut.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
She created Cloud, which is on the Life on Cut network,
which is a podcast all about ADHD, and she was
able to point me in the right direction of how
she went through it where it wasn't as painful, which look,
the steps are essentially the same, but there was more
guidance instead of just being like, here go, this is
what you need to do because you're one of a
(18:00):
million people in this in the in the start of
this clinic here where you need to go do this,
do that? Do this? Do that? What do they make
you do? So stuff Like there's a lot of like
cognitive testing, Like when you go for a new job
in a corporate situation ago, you go through an online questionnaire. Yeah,
but it's long. Again, you feel like this is the
ADHD test, but it's just to find out what sort
of person you are, Like what what makes you tick?
(18:22):
What doesn't make your tick? Are you depressed? Are you sad? So?
Do you do that?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You do that test and then what happens after that?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You've got to they say that you need to provide
some like character references. Why I wasn't I called up?
Uh what do you think it was? Like? Thankfully you
don't necessarily have to I think there is you do
enough cognitive testing about your character, and then they're also
(18:51):
asked for like penis. I don't know, I haven't seen
it in ages, and it's like like old school reports
and stuff like that, because there's no way you would
have had that. Oh no, no, definitely not no, no no.
And thankfully through this channel, I didn't have to do
any of that. So like your reports would have said,
(19:13):
easily distracted bam. Yeah, losers focus bam, cannot focus on
tausk bam. My advice to anyone who's who wants to
go down the track and looks at it and goes, fuck,
it looks like a long thing. Just do your due
diligence on where you do it. Because this was really
quick opposed to it being really really long. So this
was like a couple of week wait to see a
(19:35):
psychiatrist off the back of your testing.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It was telehealth. We spent an hour together. So just
so I know, so you've done your online online test,
I'll go from.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Stuff GP to with your concerns as you should do
with everything. Really, go and see your GP. Just tell
them what's going on and what makes you think, and
they'll ask you some general questions there too, because they're
trained to do so as well. But then they'll go, O,
do you have a clinic in mind, which thankfully from
Keisha I did, and then you essentially the referel goes
(20:08):
to them, They reach out to you. They essentially give
you all the information about what comes next.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'm really dumb here, but is a clinic like an
ADHD clinic?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah? Yeah, it's like an ADHD clinic and like like
brain neurodiversion, they specialize and all that sort of stuff.
And then you do the online. Yeah, they sort of
give what's going to happen next. And the cost. That's
another thing too. It's because how much does it costs?
Oh look, it's like it's upwards as three grands. Oh
it's not cheap, it's not cheap. Wow, it's for me.
(20:39):
I was at a point where I felt like I
needed to invest it so that I don't essentially become
you know, depressed really, because it's where it was headed. Yeah,
it was headed to like impacting you that much. It
was impacting you to the point where there was thoughts
of suicide, like just completely honest, like very minor. But
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I've felt that before, but I thought, this is getting
worse and this is the trigger for that. It was
sort of like for me, that was my how I
felt because I had no motivation, no, no structure, no no, no, no, no, no,
don't don't don't at all. Like I've I've sort of
stuffered with this sort of stuff for long and a
half that I'm like, okay, well, but what was getting
(21:22):
me down was that I couldn't. I would do the thing.
You know, here's an example, like you would go, okay,
I want to do this, right. See what you do
is you put the steps in place to get to there.
I would go, I want to do this, get to
the first step in my brain and go this is
all too hard and that's it, you know, Like here's
a good one. I started doing laps at the pool.
(21:43):
So what did I bought? Like one hundred dollars pair
of goggles. They're still in the packet and that was
two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Like, so after after you do your you went to
the clinic, did are you testing there? And is that
off the back of that, do they say you like
you have it?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Well, yeah, so you do the testing and then you
have your consultation with with a psychiatrist, and there's a lot.
They dive into a lot like childhood, family life, both
your immediate family and then obviously my wife and kids,
and you know, school and hobbies and habits like alcohol,
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drug or they do into everything in a family loss. Look,
if you're not at a position where you want to
talk about all that stuff, then maybe it's not worth
going down there. Front. It's really confronted. It's like exhausting.
At the end of it, you're like fuck like like
it's like a it's a proper therapy session, which thankfully
I've got some experience in so I wasn't, but I
(22:44):
can imagine if that's your first Oh yeah, you'd be
like holy Like I had to take it in the
car because it's just like I needed zero distractions. I
just needed to I was like, if I'm going to
spend all this money and do it to improve my life,
I need to just lock myself away and get it done.
(23:04):
And then, based off that in the conversation, he said, look,
in my professional opinion you do have adult ADHD along
with there's a couple other things that's in the They
give you a diagnosis, which is the diagnosis goes back
to my GP for next steps, which is next steps
is blood work ECG and for me, blood work and
(23:27):
ECG is really important because I've got heart disease. Out
for medication, for medication, yeah, because he openly says, hey,
we can treat this with medication whatever that's going to
look like, I don't know yet, or we can. You
can look at you unpacking. It's like a fast way
or slow like that's the way they put it. And
(23:48):
I was like, look, I'm open to being medicated, but
that's what I was worried about losing my spark, right,
I was losing like I didn't want to lose my
personality and will lose how my brain works in certain ways.
And he was like, no, no, I will. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But then at the same time you talk about your spark,
it's like, I don't I look think about that moment
where you say you're thinking about self harm and you're like, well,
that's not it's not helping it. It's it's not a
spark that you think it is.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah, there's always like the negative side to my
brain and the personality that I have. But he said
to me, no, no, no, He's like, look, what we
can do is we can look to just make it
easier for you to focus on tasks and and and
achieve smaller goals than just being like, here's something kind
of completely dull who you are as a person for
(24:37):
the rest of your life. And that's a big stigma
around medication. When I'm medicated already now and I have
been for years, but it's like before that, I was like,
I didn't want to be medicated because I didn't want
to be seen as that person who's medicated. Right, it's
like he's had like a lobotomy, yeah, essentially, and like
but then once I went down the process the first
(24:59):
time with you know, with that, it's like, it's not
that bad.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Do they when you say severe? Is there like a scale?
Is it like between?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I guess it's just his medical opinion, right, He's like, Okay,
well I've heard you. I've heard what you're like, what
your brain's like, and they're very good at like drawing
stuff out of you that they are trained to do,
right if.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They could, But it's kind of I guess. On the
one hand, it's kind of daunting to know like, Okay,
I've actually got this thing now, But then at the
same time, it must be nice in a sense to know, like, hey,
it's you know, I've been living with this thing which
has been hindering me for so long. It's not you,
it's it's like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah, it's
(25:45):
like now that I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And there's certain things that the certain behaviors that I do,
like like Mike, my doom scrolling is on a fucking
another level. It's because it's ADHD paralysis. I'm just there
searching for open mean search and that's the easiest way
for me to get it without you know, racking up
you know what I mean. Like in that I'm just
(26:08):
like consistently searching. And it's like it's a known thing
that you go into a paralysis where you're like, I'm
just gonna sit here all day in a vortex, and
I have done that. You know what. The first day
both kids went back to school, I think you were
away and I think we had nothing on or whatever.
I literally sat there till the kids got home. He
(26:28):
got nothing achieved that day, and it was like, I
don't have the motivation, nor do I have this drive
the strength to move off his couch and other than
just sit there and doom scroll Yeah, maybe joke off. Yeah,
so that's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay, so you haven't had any medication.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Gotta do blood test ECGs. Then you go and do
another psych appointment to talk about medications, the pros, the
con all that sort of stuff. Like another hour, and
then they see you again, just make any adjustments, and
then it's up to you how often you want to
see them, like check in. So like I think Keish
was saying that she did the first initial appointments and
(27:11):
they adjusted the medication and everything seems to be working fine.
But if her if her brain chemistry changes or something changes,
like maybe she falls pregnant and hormones changed things that
maybe she might need to change when it came again. Yeah,
but she's gone through the harder process. Well, dude, I'm
I'm proud of you. Thank you, very proud of you.
That's the most serious conversation I've had in a very
long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think it would have been so easy to kick
this bucket down the road. A little bit longer, a
little bit longer, knowing how hard the process is. I think,
well done, thank you, well done. I feel better about
it already.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I mean it's like you said, there's no surprises like
it was. You know, I can I can have a
large red Bull and go straight to sleep, like you know,
you know, it's just yeah, it just got to the
point where it was like and then I was doing
I was doing this thing where I was like.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Wish I'd known this before I started a podcast with you.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Sorry, it's two years, I'm kidding, kidding, But it was
getting to the point where I was like, you know,
I'm not yeah, like I definitely have a problem with alcohol,
Like well, that's no fucking secret. But it was getting
to the point where it was like I was just
drinking because I was just depressed about it. And it
was like, if I'm gonna be unmotivated to do things,
(28:29):
I might as well do the things that's like, the
the easy things that give me some sort of chemical
in my brain to make me feel a bit better. Anyway,
here we are, and I'll keep you I'll keep you
updated when I get back from Vegas. Keep us posting.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I guess if anyone has any questions specific to your
process of getting diagnosed, hit us up, let us know.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, for sure, Facebook, Instagram, whatever do you damn me?
I don't mind. I'll ignore it. Matt, Yes, back from
the Jungle. But you did miss quite a key moment
in Marley's life. You did make a little heart symbol
on TV. You did wish her well from the Jungle,
(29:11):
which she loved.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
The heart loved her and I felt guilty a few times.
I'd forget to do it and I'd be like laying
there and be the first day, like.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The first recording, first episode, we're all here now, like
when's he got to do it? And then like eventually
you did it, like a little like I think when
you got the opportunity because it was hard. You don't
know what's going to air, what's not going to air. Yeah,
but the first day of school, primary school, You've you've
been back a week or so. Now now she's doing
(29:40):
she's done really well.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
You've been doing drop offs and stuff, like I've been
doing drop offs only at the new daycare with Lola,
so I've kind of been missing school.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I haven't seen the late great Mandy j come through.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I went to We actually had a parent teacher night
where we have this three kindergarten classes and you and
all the parents go along and it's not one on one.
It's like the curriculum, and they kind of say like,
this is what the kids learning, and they made it
sound really complicated. They were like, so we're going to
be learning about maths and social studies. And I was
(30:15):
kind of like, what do you learn about maths? They're like, oh,
just like they count to ten. Timmy has seven oranges,
twelves and twelve plum But I was thinking, oh, wow,
they're teaching some pretty full on stuff here. But no, no, no, no, no, no,
it's all it's all like, it's all fun times.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I mean these days, they've obviously got iPads in class.
They've got like a you know, we have like a
chalkboard or a fucking whiteboard. They've got like a TV
screen board. They've got TV scoos at your school, Yeah, dude,
the whole thing. It's like interactive what I don't know,
wild public school.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We're living in the dark ages over here in Bonda.
We've got whiteboards. Still, you've still got BONDI beach. I
was like, what is this what is this rubbish? Yeah,
it's funny how you forget how much kids.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Froth on a little merit award.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
They had these badge system, so if you are seen
to be doing something that's like in line with school rules,
you can get ethics yeah yeah, yeah, and then you
get these little badges like little tokens, and then if
you get three tokens, you get a merit award.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Then if you get two merrit awards, you get.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like a Blue Award or something, and it's then you
get four Blue wards, you get a rid of Week. Yeah,
and you're like, who cares? But the kids they lose
their ship. Molly's had one badge so far, like little token,
and she's like, you're never going to believe what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I was like, well what did you get?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And she's like, I got the token. I amost that
molays in a run run the world god and losing
her mind. But she's she's taken a school Yeah fine, yeah,
same with Oscar. I mean the thing for us like
that he's frothing on is who's the fastest. That's that's
what boys do, right, They're like, who's the fastest in
the school And every week it's different. He's very quick,
(31:53):
he's very quick, but he was like this kid was
faster than me last week, but this week was definitely
faster than him.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Or like this is so base. Who's I know, I
know who's the fastest is the best? But all the
girls like, oh my god, there's that. It was really funny,
like we've got like a really long track to get
to school. Yeah, one entrance, one exit, and you know,
we walk all the way down with him and I
was like, what you do today, you know? And he
(32:20):
was like, oh, we did rhyming words and I was like,
oh yeah, like what words and he was like like
truck and I was like, okay, don't do it. Don't
do it. Don't do it rhymes with truck and he
was like fuck. I was like, and there's a little
girl in front of us that was in her grade too,
and she was like, oh yeah, does wrong with that?
(32:43):
And you're like my work. I was just like, oh,
this is good year. So it's how fast you are.
The running is definitely a big who's the fastest? And
another one is that I wanted to ask you about
is obviously lunches. All kids want canteen food. They just
they just want on a Friday. Yeah, so we haven't
(33:05):
done it at all, but the kids are trying to
manipulate all the parents by saying every oh, this kid
gets it every day, like everyone gets it but me,
And so we've figured them out. Lenny and Oscar obviously
in the same cli wat trying to playoffs. They're trying
to play each other, but they don't realize that. We
talked to his parents. It's so dumb. And apparently Lenny
(33:28):
went home and was like, uh, everyone gets Canteen food
every day except for me, and they were like everyone
everyone gets Oscar. They're like, hang on a moment rings
April on lad Speak and He's like, does os get
Canteen food And I was like, na, not yet, and
they were like, see Lenny just trying to We were
(33:51):
all like showing him like that because it's all on
apps and stuff. Now that's that's a that's a crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Like Laura was like, hey, you got to put in
eight am is a deadline in the morning of put
your order in, and she's like, just do it on the.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
App and I was like, what, where's the brown paper bag?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You just ride on like sausage roll dollars sixty. Put
the money in the battle sausage roll twelve dollars sixty.
Very expensive. But they have apps now. They have apps
for Canti.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Any app called I have a really good name for
that app. It's called the app should be called brown paperbag.
Just saying the app right, no good, it's not your best.
I'll put it down to yet I. I just thought
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'll put it down to your ADHD.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, Well, I'm not going to tell you things if
you're going to use it against me. So I also
have a massive penis.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But Marley today has her first exam. First example, see
already first test they have. They do these reading tests
to figure out what books you get, So you get
different books depending on your ability to the library at.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
The library or do you guys have a library or school? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I think so, I don't know school. I zoned out
during the parent teaching. There is some kind of a library.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It was a forty five minute meeting about school curriculum,
so I was twenty. Can I just say to the
teacher it was great.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Try and do it with ADHD. It's not a competition broke.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's but Maria's going to find it. Maria's going to
find out what level her reading is. That she's so good,
she's very good. She's freakishly good. Like Reeds better than me.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Doing a running test today, mondays Marley's doing a reading.
She's like, what's this?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
But Lola hates it. Lola's like, why is she going
to a separate school? So now we're debating. We were
going to hold back Lola for one more year of
daycare next year, but now we're like, do you know what,
Let's just send them both.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
She's a fair baby, so I think I think she'll
be five when she starts. Yeah, fine, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Send her Yes, the draft, Yeah this one, fine, give
to this one. But it's so fast and good, so
fast good, and the parents that we've met are lovely.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I really love it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And the most exciting part ash I'm going to get
my electric bike this weekend so I can start doing
drop offs.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
In my bike. I've been doing the drop offs on
a bike because it's carnage down there. It's an nightmare. Absolute.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I would rather spend an afternoon in Hell than do
a drop off in the car.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Trying to find a part, and I'm like five hundred
meters from the school. But the problem is it's like
all uphill on the way back, which to walk. It's like, oh,
but the electric bike. You just mosey back up because
Oscar must love it. Loves it every day, even April
and I rode the bike to parent teacher interviews April together.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Man, everyone's trying to get parks. I rode all the
way down to the front of the school. Where was
she sitting on the back. She's sitting, bitch, baby, what's
that the seat behind where you grab like that? There's
plenty of grab onto at the moment, that's for sure.
She was like, all this, you look great, thank you?
But yeah, did you get the bucket one?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
A little buck at the front, double seat at the back?
I got the real I got the dad Mode one.
You got the cool one I've got, you got the
cool surf one.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I've got a new one coming. Oh jeez, must be nice.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
This one's just a freebie. This one just someone who
wants to with the odd one. Ah, I don't know,
that's mine. How many how many electric bikes do you need?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I needed a new one because the one I've got
is not powerful enough for all the hill.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Hey, we have a little update. A little while ago
would have been last year, the end of November.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Can you believe it's nearly the end of fair? But
I can't. I cannot, I cannot. Where does the time go?
Where did it go? Lost it? I'm thirty five this year. Yeah, okay,
you're forty. I'm thirty eight. Yeah, your wife's forty though
these gray hairs.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Anyway, we did the calendar, the raaunchry raunge calendar. He did.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
You may be wondering, Ash, how much money did we
raise because we were donating all proceeds to a great
charity called rise Up. They support victims of domestic violence. Ash,
have a guess how much money we will be donating.
Fifty bucks, A little bit more than that. It is
three thousand, five hundred and fourteen dollars will be donated
to rise Up.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
That is outstanding, and that is because of the listeners.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So thank you so much for your support. That is
a roundom applause.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, that's worth a round the clause.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Are we are a clapping podcast?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Now? Now where's two doting clappers?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
So yeah, I really appreciate the support. We do have
some calendars left, so if you would like to hit
your hands. I know we talked about the year going
so far, but.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
There's plenty of time. We'll had two extra months at
the year. He got nine months to enjoy the calendar.
That's all they have to do is put the two
front months at the end. Just roll it on into
twenty twenty six. Yes, March twentieth.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
This guy's good a business. We will put a link
in the shows. We will put the link in the
show notes where you can buy the calendar. But a
huge thanks for all your support.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
And we obviously need to do like March twentieth as
a two doing Dad Day or something. Why is that
again because we did twice cops. Yeah, yeah, that is.
That is quality control on that calendar seems to.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
But but if you haven't bought one, it's a great calendar. Yeah,
there's a couple of mistakes in there, but ignore it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Now it still rolls on. I think if it didn't
roll on, if it threw every other day, it's just numbers,
just numbers.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It doesn't it doesn't make any major impact.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, what's the calendar exactly? No one. You should buy one,
no one to buy in the calendar for the dates
to the pictures. That's the for days anyway, that's good.
That's good gear.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And on that note, we will get out of here.
You've got to drive home. I'm going to pick up
the kids.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
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People's Today
Do you know one thing I hate at a kid's
path meth addicts? No, I like them, they're they're good fun.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, what do I hate? What do you hate? Can
I have one more guess?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yes? What would Ash hate? Should I just get to it?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Bubblers that don't work?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
No? I hate the flying fox. When you go to
a park that has a big flying fox. Have you
seen those? They're great, great fun. But I always get
roped into the one parent who keeps going back and forth,
but for not just my kid, all the kids that
join in. What do you mean, how are you getting
roped into that? Okay, so I go with Oscar one second.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome back to two doting dads. I'm Maddie Jay and
I'm Ash. This is a podcast all about parenting. It
is the good, it is the bad. And look, we
don't give any advice. But what we do do do
do is talk about flying foxes. Continue we do do.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Indeed talk about flying foxes. So Oscar just bear with me, Oscar, Daddy,
I want to go on the flying fox. No problems,
go over, help him onto the flying fox. It goes down,
you've got to bring it back up. Usually you'd bring
it back up for the next parent to help their
child on. But for some reason, every time I do
it with Oscar, I go to take it back. There's
(01:27):
no other parent and there's like ten kids, and then
they all can't reach it, so I've got to go
back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Feel like the age of a child to use a
flying fox without parental supervision is around about five. Anything
under concerning anything out.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Of that, I'm looking for consent from a parent.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Would you hand a four year old a flying fox
unaccompanied by an adult?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Yes, you got it, man, you got it.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's a a harsh world out there, and these kids
need to learn.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, but the thing is like, what, like why can't
other parents come over and help me?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
They just yeah, they're like it's okay, no do it
because they're like, oh my god, look at that good
Samaradan dad out there who's relaying like back and forth.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I hate that you have set this up, You set
the standard. I hate that so much. You just want
to I've got I had two kids. If I wanted
to do that for ten kids, I would have had
ten kids. Fuck the other kids to stop them, just
push them off. You reckon, just like another parent they don't.
I've been starting, like all of Christmas holidays, we would
go to this one park called Flying Fox Park. If
(02:32):
you go to a flying Fox park with your kids,
the expectation is that you have to help your kid
on the flying Fox, not a random other parent. Right,
It's unlike you to be so caring. I don't care.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
It's just I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect you to be the one.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Who being like that idiot dad helping out all these
other kids who doesn't even know.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, that's me.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's weird. Why how have you? How has this happened?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It just happened too many times in the heat of summer.
But just tell us, like, that's the thing. Then I
have to deprive my kid from going on it. So
now I was like, can we go? I'm like, oh, soon, soon, soon,
we're doing something else because I know as soon as
I go over there, Timmy, Jimmy, Sally and Susie, you're
going to come up and I'm doing laps of the
flying Fox. Let him, let him be, let him suffer. Well,
(03:21):
then they're just going to stand there. That's life, bro,
that is life.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Flying Fox Park is really just a lesson for what
life is like in the real world.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
I don't know if you're on my side or not.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
I don't know either. I had a little session at
the park. Hang on, I got a sneeze. One second.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
You're a plane. That was good, bless you. I reckon
it was a cessna. You are autistic. You're a divergent actually, which.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
We'll get into later. Before before we do that, okay,
before do that. Do you remember Tom Williams from Benhams
and Gardens. Tom Williams very handsome man, what.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I recall, very hand gorgeous. He's a bit older than us.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Right now, he's I think he's let me just check,
can confirm that his age. He's fifty four, Still gorgeous, stunning.
He's a carpenter. Imagine that rocking up to your house
to fix your back, like.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Hire a hubby. Yeah, imagine if I know what sort
of person he would be on a night out. You
know what you're getting right there?
Speaker 2 (04:26):
What are you getting? Don't disrespect him? I'm not What
are you getting? I don't want to say, because I'll
just respect him.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
He's the loveliest, but the haircut. He's probably really lovely guy.
That haircut back in the day, screamed one thing.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
We all had haircuts like that. He has like a
bit for those he has a bit of a mohawk
kind of cut. But he saved my life.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
He looks like Ben Cousins, look like Ben Cousins, and
we all know what he was about.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
How do you how doare you compare the two? He
saved my life. I was at a park literally or
just literally. I was back back in the od stomping
ground around Bondai. Decided Thursday Daddy day. Take my kid
plus my niece from the jungle to the urban jungle.
Some might say, very good from you, Thank you. You should
(05:12):
be a copywriter.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
That's it for me.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Went to what's called not Flying Fox Park rocket Ship Park.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
We have a rocket ship park too.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's not about you, it's about me. Isn't have a
big rocket in the middle, hence the name it does
you know your rocket ship? It was a chain of
parks called rocket Ship Park. It's a great park. It's
a cracking park. I've just finished. It's really beautiful. Went there,
went there, must have been there for like I want
to say, were there for about five minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
What happened started raining. Oh yeah, I don't have enough.
They don't have any cover, no cover at the rocket
Ship parks. It's the cover. The rocket ship's too high
for cover. It's a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Yeah, it's it's the Achilles heel of the rocket ship.
The rain. Yeah, it's over, it's over. So I was,
I did. There's a metal slide and Laola was like,
I'm going on it, and I was like, oh nuts.
You know when metal gets wet, it gets very slippery.
She she flew out of there. You know, you know
(06:16):
when something's happening and it text you a second to realize,
and I was, I was about three meters away from
the slide, but I saw her flying down.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I just kind of went. I was frozen. She flying
off the end and she it was like long jump.
She must have got four meters straight onto her like
bumps straight onto the back. Combo were like, was it
like it was?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Thank Heaven, it's the rocket ship parks. All the new
ones have soft landing parks.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Would have been like back in parents. I was like,
I went too fast in the slide.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
She would have had a bottom skin. Luckily she was okay.
But then I was like, this is too dangerous. I'm
pulling the pin on the rocket ship park. Okay, problem, Yeah,
I didn't have a car, it's with him walking. Just nah,
I got the bus there, didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I bustin they've got a bus. I got the basket
of the bus.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
But the issue is ash issue is it was a
bit of a walk from the bus stop, so I
couldn't get a bus back home. Tried to call a
TAXI couldn't get my mate.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Why do they even have a phone number anymore? Like
you just sit there on all day to fifteen minutes.
It reminds me of the city to serve.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Remember, yes, can we just allow children, babies and ubers,
like if they're allowed in calves, let them in an
uber without.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
A baby seat.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Canning, Queensland may change the rules. We're living in the
dark ages here in New South Wales.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
State state by state laws is a joke.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Isn't there an election coming up? We should campaign the
dad party the dad party no baby seats and ubers?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
That could be no, yeah, that could be our main thing,
Like any man, woman or child should be able to
ride an uber without discrimination.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And more parental supervision at Flying Fox Parks.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
More shade and more cover. Oh, we are onto something.
This is good. Think of the people that would actually,
can you please look up how to create a political party? Please?
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yes. Also, just to put another spanner in the works,
I had my knees. I had Lola. Guess who else
I had?
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Nana had Nana.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
You know what nana's are like in the wet Yeah,
I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I was more worried about Lola. On Nana.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
I was like, don't touch, that's OK, You're fine, And
I'm like, how the hell am I going to get home?
And then out of nowhere, Tom Williams. Tom Williams comes
walking through the park. He's just finished a meeting. Walking Yeah,
he don't tell me. He piggybacked you all and he said.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And I said, I'm trying to get home, and he goes,
don't worry, you can hop in my car.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
And Lola was like, who is this guy? Not a stranger?
Nana was very happy to get the car of time.
Was she in front seat? No?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I put her in the back. Smart Tom Williams saved
my life.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
That it's just dad's looking out for each other, just
one dad to another, one dad to another. So vote
one the political the dad political party. We look out.
We call it the party for the Dad party.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Like it's I now have to like with that good deed.
You know, I'm now looking to give my good deed
to another parent. You don't need any good deeds.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
You're fine. Well I'm not, actually, and I have a
story about that. Not fine. Hemorrhoids. Hemorrhoids about the hemorrhoids
were vicious while you were gone, And that was from
stress because stressed about you. I was worried about you,
not about me or my terrible lifestyle and my horrible
habits had nothing to do with that. It's all stress.
But we have some answers Matthew to why I am
(09:41):
like the way that I am? Okay, it's formal, so
we always joke. We joke a lot on these podcasts
about the poster boy for a particular it's a disorder disorder. Yeah,
there's got enough d's in there to add of disorder.
It's a disorder. I have formerly been diagnosed bias like
high triss as a severe let me finish a severe
(10:06):
case of adult ADHD. Do we class? Look, I didn't
know what to do. I was like, congratulations, I can't
say I'm surprised. I'm not surprised. We all knew. Now
(10:26):
that I know, it's it's way worse. I'm just like,
I found myself yesterday. Better. It's better the disorder. You
don't know, Yeah, I found myself yesterday. We're at the
PM's house for that thing you're doing, and I was
like staring off into the like into no man's landlight,
and then I'd be like, oh, oh shit. If someone's
(10:50):
like talking, was like ash, just this echo, like yeah,
it's quite a long process. I thought Matt's scaring at
the jungle and he pulled my finger out and do
something for myself off here? And can I ask?
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Can I ask what made you want to get tested?
Because you've you're now in your.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
About one hundred and seventeen episodes of this podcast. I
listened back to all them. I was like, Fuck, that
guy needs some help.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Because you kind of think you've come this far. You're
in your mid thirties, you come this far, you know surely,
surely you know you're fine.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, it's getting worse. It's getting progressively worse. Really in
what way? Look, I know I know that I've always
had problems focusing. I know that I always I'm real scattery,
I'm real up and down, I move everything.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Are you.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Don't? I'm happy? Shut up? And honestly it was I
knew it was getting worse. And then I started to
pay attention to some things that Oscar would do and
how okay, and you know he's five, he's he's you
know not. He just reminded me so much of what
(12:06):
of what I what like my brain and like what
the mannerisms and things like he cannot focus on anything?
What was Oscar doing that? He can't focus on me,
but he can hyper focus on a small on a
one small task and like for me, I used to
be able to hyper focus on things. And then can
I just refresh your memory? And I you know this,
(12:28):
But for the listeners, Ash, I don't know what it was.
But he was like, I'm really into Pokemon cards and
I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (12:37):
And you would watch you would watch people live stream
opening Pokemon cards and then you started collecting Pokemon cards.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
And now I'm in severe debt.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeap just you were like locked into Pokemon car locked in.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Still bro, I am locked in. Actually I guess I
can harp a focus on that. But like I would
find that, I was like, Okay, well I can't. I can't.
I'm starting to become as focused as Oscar is, and
I'm an adult who like should be able to focus on.
I can't read an email. I can read like a
head of an email. I could learn a new skill
(13:11):
like Rubik's cube. Took me one day to learn the
Rubik's cube, you know what I mean. But I can't.
I can't form a new habit. I can't build a
new habit, like just shit like that. And it's progressively
getting worse to the point where like I'm unmotivated to
do anything, like I'm unmotivated to get out of bed,
(13:31):
all this sort of stuff. That it was like, all right,
probably need to do something about it. Do you remember
and tell me if this is the case or not.
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It must have been like six months ago we had
a conversation about potentially getting diagnosed, and you said something
along the lines of you don't want to get medicated
because it's going to change who you are.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
That's a common concern they say it because it's like
we talk about ADHD as you know, like a disorder
like a it's really bad, but it's also a superpowerful.
A lot of people, Like the psychiatrist said to me,
he said, you've gotten as far as you have done
now with what's going on in your head, but you're
obviously at a point in your life where you need
(14:14):
you need. I need to be able to create a routine,
have some sort of structure. I need to be able
to sleep properly. Like this's so like it takes me
like four hours to go to sleep. I'll just lay
there bro and my head will just just run the
whole time, the biggest one. And you'll notice it when
and you probably already notice it when that I noticed
(14:36):
when I come on the phone to someone and I'm
invested in our conversation and something so minute will get
my attention and I'll pull on that piece of string
and the complete conversation changes to me just I'm not
there anymore. And I've gotten to the point where I'm
doing that to family and stuff like that, and I'll
(14:58):
get off the phone and I'll go, fuck, I just
did that again. I'll have to ring, Like I rang
my sister back up yesterday and I was like, I'm
so sorry. You would having an actual important conversation with me,
and I didn't digest him. I didn't digest the back
end of I don't even know what happened because something
had caught my eye and I cannot refocus on that conversation.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
And it's tough because obviously your sister's going to be
very sympathetic because she understands you and you and who
you are. But I guess other people might be like
fuck ash, like that's.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Rude so many people, and I feel really bad. So
if you are on the phone to me and I
do tune out, it's a disorder now, okay, but yeah,
it's yeah, it just was getting to the point where
I have that's just put yourself in my shoes for
a moment. No motivation, no routine, no structure, no goals,
(15:55):
no interests. Like I was just like a blob. Yeah,
pretty much. And it's like I can't. It really really
hit me when I surfed the wavepool before you it
was before you left or during your left, I don't know.
I did hurt my back on the same session, but
I literally paddled out and I was like, I fucking
(16:16):
hate this and it was like why though, why is that?
Like why is your brain now associating this with something
that you hate, Like, yeah, is it because maybe that
I put too much pressure on myself to be the
best that I can be, but I don't have the
patience to work to be the best I could be.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So what was the process? Because I remember you saying
it was hard. I know you were kind of like
tiptoeing around getting tested. But it's not just a simple
make an appointment. Oh yeah, you like to do this test?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
You have it? What does it look like? Step by step?
So this is the second time I've been down it
because we spoke about it last year. But it was
the referral I got then was to a particular clinic
that feel like they were quite big. So you sort
of get you sort of go into the conveyor belt
of process, if you will. And I felt like the
(17:12):
information was like the step was like it felt like
the test, you know what I mean? It was like,
I'm not going to get through all this shit. I
can't focus on one thing. How do you want me
to focus on fifteen different things before I can see
a psychiatrist who to say, Okay, what's going on, which
probably deters a lot of people. I got really lucky
(17:32):
because of Kisha. Keisha's such an advocate for it.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
For people who don't know. It's Keisha from Life Uncut.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
She created Cloud, which is on the Life on Cut network,
which is a podcast all about ADHD, and she was
able to point me in the right direction of how
she went through it where it wasn't as painful, which look,
the steps are essentially the same, but there was more
guidance instead of just being like, here go, this is
what you need to do because you're one of a
(18:00):
million people in this in the in the start of
this clinic here where you need to go do this,
do that? Do this? Do that? What do they make
you do? So stuff Like there's a lot of like
cognitive testing, Like when you go for a new job
in a corporate situation ago, you go through an online questionnaire. Yeah,
but it's long. Again, you feel like this is the
ADHD test, but it's just to find out what sort
of person you are, Like what what makes you tick?
(18:22):
What doesn't make your tick? Are you depressed? Are you sad? So?
Do you do that?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You do that test and then what happens after that?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
You've got to they say that you need to provide
some like character references. Why I wasn't I called up?
Uh what do you think it was? Like? Thankfully you
don't necessarily have to I think there is you do
enough cognitive testing about your character, and then they're also
(18:51):
asked for like penis. I don't know, I haven't seen
it in ages, and it's like like old school reports
and stuff like that, because there's no way you would
have had that. Oh no, no, definitely not no, no no.
And thankfully through this channel, I didn't have to do
any of that. So like your reports would have said,
(19:13):
easily distracted bam. Yeah, losers focus bam, cannot focus on
tausk bam. My advice to anyone who's who wants to
go down the track and looks at it and goes, fuck,
it looks like a long thing. Just do your due
diligence on where you do it. Because this was really
quick opposed to it being really really long. So this
was like a couple of week wait to see a
(19:35):
psychiatrist off the back of your testing.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It was telehealth. We spent an hour together. So just
so I know, so you've done your online online test,
I'll go from.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Stuff GP to with your concerns as you should do
with everything. Really, go and see your GP. Just tell
them what's going on and what makes you think, and
they'll ask you some general questions there too, because they're
trained to do so as well. But then they'll go, O,
do you have a clinic in mind, which thankfully from
Keisha I did, and then you essentially the referel goes
(20:08):
to them, They reach out to you. They essentially give
you all the information about what comes next.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I'm really dumb here, but is a clinic like an
ADHD clinic?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Yeah? Yeah, it's like an ADHD clinic and like like
brain neurodiversion, they specialize and all that sort of stuff.
And then you do the online. Yeah, they sort of
give what's going to happen next. And the cost. That's
another thing too. It's because how much does it costs?
Oh look, it's like it's upwards as three grands. Oh
it's not cheap, it's not cheap. Wow, it's for me.
(20:39):
I was at a point where I felt like I
needed to invest it so that I don't essentially become
you know, depressed really, because it's where it was headed. Yeah,
it was headed to like impacting you that much. It
was impacting you to the point where there was thoughts
of suicide, like just completely honest, like very minor. But
(21:00):
I've felt that before, but I thought, this is getting
worse and this is the trigger for that. It was
sort of like for me, that was my how I
felt because I had no motivation, no, no structure, no no, no, no, no, no,
don't don't don't at all. Like I've I've sort of
stuffered with this sort of stuff for long and a
half that I'm like, okay, well, but what was getting
(21:22):
me down was that I couldn't. I would do the thing.
You know, here's an example, like you would go, okay,
I want to do this, right. See what you do
is you put the steps in place to get to there.
I would go, I want to do this, get to
the first step in my brain and go this is
all too hard and that's it, you know, Like here's
a good one. I started doing laps at the pool.
(21:43):
So what did I bought? Like one hundred dollars pair
of goggles. They're still in the packet and that was
two weeks ago. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Like, so after after you do your you went to
the clinic, did are you testing there? And is that
off the back of that, do they say you like
you have it?
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Well, yeah, so you do the testing and then you
have your consultation with with a psychiatrist, and there's a lot.
They dive into a lot like childhood, family life, both
your immediate family and then obviously my wife and kids,
and you know, school and hobbies and habits like alcohol,
(22:23):
drug or they do into everything in a family loss. Look,
if you're not at a position where you want to
talk about all that stuff, then maybe it's not worth
going down there. Front. It's really confronted. It's like exhausting.
At the end of it, you're like fuck like like
it's like a it's a proper therapy session, which thankfully
I've got some experience in so I wasn't, but I
(22:44):
can imagine if that's your first Oh yeah, you'd be
like holy Like I had to take it in the
car because it's just like I needed zero distractions. I
just needed to I was like, if I'm going to
spend all this money and do it to improve my life,
I need to just lock myself away and get it done.
(23:04):
And then, based off that in the conversation, he said, look,
in my professional opinion you do have adult ADHD along
with there's a couple other things that's in the They
give you a diagnosis, which is the diagnosis goes back
to my GP for next steps, which is next steps
is blood work ECG and for me, blood work and
(23:27):
ECG is really important because I've got heart disease. Out
for medication, for medication, yeah, because he openly says, hey,
we can treat this with medication whatever that's going to
look like, I don't know yet, or we can. You
can look at you unpacking. It's like a fast way
or slow like that's the way they put it. And
(23:48):
I was like, look, I'm open to being medicated, but
that's what I was worried about losing my spark, right,
I was losing like I didn't want to lose my
personality and will lose how my brain works in certain ways.
And he was like, no, no, I will. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
But then at the same time you talk about your spark,
it's like, I don't I look think about that moment
where you say you're thinking about self harm and you're like, well,
that's not it's not helping it. It's it's not a
spark that you think it is.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, yeah, there's always like the negative side to my
brain and the personality that I have. But he said
to me, no, no, no, He's like, look, what we
can do is we can look to just make it
easier for you to focus on tasks and and and
achieve smaller goals than just being like, here's something kind
of completely dull who you are as a person for
(24:37):
the rest of your life. And that's a big stigma
around medication. When I'm medicated already now and I have
been for years, but it's like before that, I was like,
I didn't want to be medicated because I didn't want
to be seen as that person who's medicated. Right, it's
like he's had like a lobotomy, yeah, essentially, and like
but then once I went down the process the first
(24:59):
time with you know, with that, it's like, it's not
that bad.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Do they when you say severe? Is there like a scale?
Is it like between?
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I guess it's just his medical opinion, right, He's like, Okay,
well I've heard you. I've heard what you're like, what
your brain's like, and they're very good at like drawing
stuff out of you that they are trained to do,
right if.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
They could, But it's kind of I guess. On the
one hand, it's kind of daunting to know like, Okay,
I've actually got this thing now, But then at the
same time, it must be nice in a sense to know, like, hey,
it's you know, I've been living with this thing which
has been hindering me for so long. It's not you,
it's it's like, you know, it makes sense. Yeah, it's
(25:45):
like now that I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
And there's certain things that the certain behaviors that I do,
like like Mike, my doom scrolling is on a fucking
another level. It's because it's ADHD paralysis. I'm just there
searching for open mean search and that's the easiest way
for me to get it without you know, racking up
you know what I mean. Like in that I'm just
(26:08):
like consistently searching. And it's like it's a known thing
that you go into a paralysis where you're like, I'm
just gonna sit here all day in a vortex, and
I have done that. You know what. The first day
both kids went back to school, I think you were
away and I think we had nothing on or whatever.
I literally sat there till the kids got home. He
(26:28):
got nothing achieved that day, and it was like, I
don't have the motivation, nor do I have this drive
the strength to move off his couch and other than
just sit there and doom scroll Yeah, maybe joke off. Yeah,
so that's where we're at.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Okay, so you haven't had any medication.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Gotta do blood test ECGs. Then you go and do
another psych appointment to talk about medications, the pros, the
con all that sort of stuff. Like another hour, and
then they see you again, just make any adjustments, and
then it's up to you how often you want to
see them, like check in. So like I think Keish
was saying that she did the first initial appointments and
(27:11):
they adjusted the medication and everything seems to be working fine.
But if her if her brain chemistry changes or something changes,
like maybe she falls pregnant and hormones changed things that
maybe she might need to change when it came again. Yeah,
but she's gone through the harder process. Well, dude, I'm
I'm proud of you. Thank you, very proud of you.
That's the most serious conversation I've had in a very
long time. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think it would have been so easy to kick
this bucket down the road. A little bit longer, a
little bit longer, knowing how hard the process is. I think,
well done, thank you, well done. I feel better about
it already.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I mean it's like you said, there's no surprises like
it was. You know, I can I can have a
large red Bull and go straight to sleep, like you know,
you know, it's just yeah, it just got to the
point where it was like and then I was doing
I was doing this thing where I was like.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Wish I'd known this before I started a podcast with you.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Sorry, it's two years, I'm kidding, kidding, But it was
getting to the point where I was like, you know,
I'm not yeah, like I definitely have a problem with alcohol,
Like well, that's no fucking secret. But it was getting
to the point where it was like I was just
drinking because I was just depressed about it. And it
was like, if I'm gonna be unmotivated to do things,
(28:29):
I might as well do the things that's like, the
the easy things that give me some sort of chemical
in my brain to make me feel a bit better. Anyway,
here we are, and I'll keep you I'll keep you
updated when I get back from Vegas. Keep us posting.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
I guess if anyone has any questions specific to your
process of getting diagnosed, hit us up, let us know.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, for sure, Facebook, Instagram, whatever do you damn me?
I don't mind. I'll ignore it. Matt, Yes, back from
the Jungle. But you did miss quite a key moment
in Marley's life. You did make a little heart symbol
on TV. You did wish her well from the Jungle,
(29:11):
which she loved.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
The heart loved her and I felt guilty a few times.
I'd forget to do it and I'd be like laying
there and be the first day, like.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
The first recording, first episode, we're all here now, like
when's he got to do it? And then like eventually
you did it, like a little like I think when
you got the opportunity because it was hard. You don't
know what's going to air, what's not going to air. Yeah,
but the first day of school, primary school, You've you've
been back a week or so. Now now she's doing
(29:40):
she's done really well.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
You've been doing drop offs and stuff, like I've been
doing drop offs only at the new daycare with Lola,
so I've kind of been missing school.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
I haven't seen the late great Mandy j come through.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
I went to We actually had a parent teacher night
where we have this three kindergarten classes and you and
all the parents go along and it's not one on one.
It's like the curriculum, and they kind of say like,
this is what the kids learning, and they made it
sound really complicated. They were like, so we're going to
be learning about maths and social studies. And I was
(30:15):
kind of like, what do you learn about maths? They're like, oh,
just like they count to ten. Timmy has seven oranges,
twelves and twelve plum But I was thinking, oh, wow,
they're teaching some pretty full on stuff here. But no, no, no, no, no, no,
it's all it's all like, it's all fun times.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
I mean these days, they've obviously got iPads in class.
They've got like a you know, we have like a
chalkboard or a fucking whiteboard. They've got like a TV
screen board. They've got TV scoos at your school, Yeah, dude,
the whole thing. It's like interactive what I don't know,
wild public school.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
We're living in the dark ages over here in Bonda.
We've got whiteboards. Still, you've still got BONDI beach. I
was like, what is this what is this rubbish? Yeah,
it's funny how you forget how much kids.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Froth on a little merit award.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
They had these badge system, so if you are seen
to be doing something that's like in line with school rules,
you can get ethics yeah yeah, yeah, and then you
get these little badges like little tokens, and then if
you get three tokens, you get a merit award.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Then if you get two merrit awards, you get.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like a Blue Award or something, and it's then you
get four Blue wards, you get a rid of Week. Yeah,
and you're like, who cares? But the kids they lose
their ship. Molly's had one badge so far, like little token,
and she's like, you're never going to believe what happened.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And I was like, well what did you get?
Speaker 2 (31:31):
And she's like, I got the token. I amost that
molays in a run run the world god and losing
her mind. But she's she's taken a school Yeah fine, yeah,
same with Oscar. I mean the thing for us like
that he's frothing on is who's the fastest. That's that's
what boys do, right, They're like, who's the fastest in
the school And every week it's different. He's very quick,
(31:53):
he's very quick, but he was like this kid was
faster than me last week, but this week was definitely
faster than him.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Or like this is so base. Who's I know, I
know who's the fastest is the best? But all the
girls like, oh my god, there's that. It was really funny,
like we've got like a really long track to get
to school. Yeah, one entrance, one exit, and you know,
we walk all the way down with him and I
was like, what you do today, you know? And he
(32:20):
was like, oh, we did rhyming words and I was like,
oh yeah, like what words and he was like like
truck and I was like, okay, don't do it. Don't
do it. Don't do it rhymes with truck and he
was like fuck. I was like, and there's a little
girl in front of us that was in her grade too,
and she was like, oh yeah, does wrong with that?
(32:43):
And you're like my work. I was just like, oh,
this is good year. So it's how fast you are.
The running is definitely a big who's the fastest? And
another one is that I wanted to ask you about
is obviously lunches. All kids want canteen food. They just
they just want on a Friday. Yeah, so we haven't
(33:05):
done it at all, but the kids are trying to
manipulate all the parents by saying every oh, this kid
gets it every day, like everyone gets it but me,
And so we've figured them out. Lenny and Oscar obviously
in the same cli wat trying to playoffs. They're trying
to play each other, but they don't realize that. We
talked to his parents. It's so dumb. And apparently Lenny
(33:28):
went home and was like, uh, everyone gets Canteen food
every day except for me, and they were like everyone
everyone gets Oscar. They're like, hang on a moment rings
April on lad Speak and He's like, does os get
Canteen food And I was like, na, not yet, and
they were like, see Lenny just trying to We were
(33:51):
all like showing him like that because it's all on
apps and stuff. Now that's that's a that's a crazy thing.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
Like Laura was like, hey, you got to put in
eight am is a deadline in the morning of put
your order in, and she's like, just do it on the.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
App and I was like, what, where's the brown paper bag?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You just ride on like sausage roll dollars sixty. Put
the money in the battle sausage roll twelve dollars sixty.
Very expensive. But they have apps now. They have apps
for Canti.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Any app called I have a really good name for
that app. It's called the app should be called brown paperbag.
Just saying the app right, no good, it's not your best.
I'll put it down to yet I. I just thought
of it.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
I'll put it down to your ADHD.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Okay, Well, I'm not going to tell you things if
you're going to use it against me. So I also
have a massive penis.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
But Marley today has her first exam. First example, see
already first test they have. They do these reading tests
to figure out what books you get, So you get
different books depending on your ability to the library at.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
The library or do you guys have a library or school? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I think so, I don't know school. I zoned out
during the parent teaching. There is some kind of a library.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I think, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It was a forty five minute meeting about school curriculum,
so I was twenty. Can I just say to the
teacher it was great.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Try and do it with ADHD. It's not a competition broke.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's but Maria's going to find it. Maria's going to
find out what level her reading is. That she's so good,
she's very good. She's freakishly good. Like Reeds better than me.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Doing a running test today, mondays Marley's doing a reading.
She's like, what's this?
Speaker 2 (35:39):
But Lola hates it. Lola's like, why is she going
to a separate school? So now we're debating. We were
going to hold back Lola for one more year of
daycare next year, but now we're like, do you know what,
Let's just send them both.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
She's a fair baby, so I think I think she'll
be five when she starts. Yeah, fine, right, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Send her Yes, the draft, Yeah this one, fine, give
to this one. But it's so fast and good, so
fast good, and the parents that we've met are lovely.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
I really love it.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
And the most exciting part ash I'm going to get
my electric bike this weekend so I can start doing
drop offs.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
In my bike. I've been doing the drop offs on
a bike because it's carnage down there. It's an nightmare. Absolute.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
I would rather spend an afternoon in Hell than do
a drop off in the car.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Trying to find a part, and I'm like five hundred
meters from the school. But the problem is it's like
all uphill on the way back, which to walk. It's like, oh,
but the electric bike. You just mosey back up because
Oscar must love it. Loves it every day, even April
and I rode the bike to parent teacher interviews April together.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Man, everyone's trying to get parks. I rode all the
way down to the front of the school. Where was
she sitting on the back. She's sitting, bitch, baby, what's
that the seat behind where you grab like that? There's
plenty of grab onto at the moment, that's for sure.
She was like, all this, you look great, thank you?
But yeah, did you get the bucket one?
Speaker 2 (37:10):
A little buck at the front, double seat at the back?
I got the real I got the dad Mode one.
You got the cool one I've got, you got the
cool surf one.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I've got a new one coming. Oh jeez, must be nice.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
This one's just a freebie. This one just someone who
wants to with the odd one. Ah, I don't know,
that's mine. How many how many electric bikes do you need?
Speaker 1 (37:35):
I needed a new one because the one I've got
is not powerful enough for all the hill.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Hey, we have a little update. A little while ago
would have been last year, the end of November.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Can you believe it's nearly the end of fair? But
I can't. I cannot, I cannot. Where does the time go?
Where did it go? Lost it? I'm thirty five this year. Yeah, okay,
you're forty. I'm thirty eight. Yeah, your wife's forty though
these gray hairs.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Anyway, we did the calendar, the raaunchry raunge calendar. He did.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
You may be wondering, Ash, how much money did we
raise because we were donating all proceeds to a great
charity called rise Up. They support victims of domestic violence. Ash,
have a guess how much money we will be donating.
Fifty bucks, A little bit more than that. It is
three thousand, five hundred and fourteen dollars will be donated
to rise Up.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
That is outstanding, and that is because of the listeners.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So thank you so much for your support. That is
a roundom applause.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Yeah, that's worth a round the clause.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Are we are a clapping podcast?
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Now? Now where's two doting clappers?
Speaker 2 (38:41):
So yeah, I really appreciate the support. We do have
some calendars left, so if you would like to hit
your hands. I know we talked about the year going
so far, but.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
There's plenty of time. We'll had two extra months at
the year. He got nine months to enjoy the calendar.
That's all they have to do is put the two
front months at the end. Just roll it on into
twenty twenty six. Yes, March twentieth.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
This guy's good a business. We will put a link
in the shows. We will put the link in the
show notes where you can buy the calendar. But a
huge thanks for all your support.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
And we obviously need to do like March twentieth as
a two doing Dad Day or something. Why is that
again because we did twice cops. Yeah, yeah, that is.
That is quality control on that calendar seems to.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
But but if you haven't bought one, it's a great calendar. Yeah,
there's a couple of mistakes in there, but ignore it
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Now it still rolls on. I think if it didn't
roll on, if it threw every other day, it's just numbers,
just numbers.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
It doesn't it doesn't make any major impact.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, what's the calendar exactly? No one. You should buy one,
no one to buy in the calendar for the dates
to the pictures. That's the for days anyway, that's good.
That's good gear.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And on that note, we will get out of here.
You've got to drive home. I'm going to pick up
the kids.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Ashy. If you've enjoyed this episode, what should you do?
You should leave a review, subscribe like whatever you do?
Yeah five stars. Follow us on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook. Facebook.
We will speak to you guys when I get back.
When I get back from day oh.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
God, please be safe, look after yourself well, come back
in one piece always.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
I am a soldiers. I'm done. I'll be fine. We'll
see you guys. Two.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
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Australia and the connections to land, see and community.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
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