May 18, 2025 • 53 mins
Dave Hughes is a comedian, radio host, and chaotic dad of three. His stories about fatherhood, fame, and the time he got way too high on weed gummies in Hawaii.
Hughesy opens up about growing up with an alcoholic father, getting punched by Brother O’Brien at school, and the moment he met his wife Holly.
Matty J and Ash talk pocket money dramas with his kids, the realities of raising teenagers, and whether he’s actually serious about having more children at this stage of life.
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Welcome back to three doting dads.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I am Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Dave Hughy
Hughes and thanks for having me, thanks for including me,
Thanks for widening your doting dad circle.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It is an absolute pleasure. You are now a doting
dad and Husey. In case you didn't realize, this is
a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it
is the.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Bad and the relatable.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Ash Night, for legal reasons, are not allowed to give advice.
We are mandated by a legal team.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
But there's a loophole. The guests are allowed to give advice.
All right, great, so you have any I'm full of it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And as Mattie knows from our time and the I'm
a celebrity jungle, I'm full of advice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
He's a wise man.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And that's why you're here.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Thank you to enlighten us.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good to enlighten the.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Li and like myself, you off and off and I
come up with the gems and I go, oh my god,
it will help me.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You'll be on the bus right home after this going fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I just I'm a genius. I'm a parenting genius. I
don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I do have to say we are, of course, at
my kitchen table. I have a set of school shoes
arriving bake school, not me. Fucking Marley has just grown
out of her school shoes, so I had to order
another pet. They will arrive I think during the record,
and when anyone knocks on the door, Buster will bark
like we're being robbed. Yep, okay, so there's a knock
(01:33):
and there's barking.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I've got a wife who spends I think most of
her nights are buying stuff online, and then she goes
to work until I'm the one who has to be
there during the day, so that happens a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I just wanted to manage expectations, Dave. I want to
talk about what life was like growing up. I'm assuming
it was super yachts, helicopters, not far from what life
is like right now.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, so thank you for that assumption.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But no, I grew up in a country town in
Victoria called Warnambull, which is about maybe thirty thousand people
now it is probably twenty thousand when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, so we weren't in the rich.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Part of town.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're in the commission house area. Of town west warnable,
the emphasis on West Hill west as and so yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Was a different time.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It was more the wild West really in the seventies,
you know. So there was like dogs would roam the streets.
No dogs ever had to stay in yards. How would
just roam the streets and they would get run over
quite often any dog attacks.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Streets you wouldn't want to ride your bike down because
the dogs in that street were like angry. So yeah,
so there's yeah more attacks than they are now, and
dogs could survive the attacks. It was less likely that
the dog would get you know, taken to the farm,
if you know what I mean, if a bit a kid.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Basically the kid would have to.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Look inside themselves and go why did I why did
that dog buy me?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
You know one of this podcasts all about dog attacks.
What about school? I would we would assume that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You would be the class clown at school.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I was a shy kid, especially early in primary school.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I was pretty shy.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, so I remember walking around and not speaking to
anyone for probably the first month or two of you know,
and I was just like, how can I get involved
in that game of footy or something? So yeah, It
took me.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
A while to warm up.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But once I warmed up and became comfortable, yes, then
the humor would flow from me. Especially in high school.
I started year ten, eleven and twelve started being pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, did you get in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, punching the head by a Christian brother once, who's sorry,
a Christian brother, so yeah, and it was a Christian brother.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Christian brother. You don't know what Christian brothers is.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
No enlighteness.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I went to most high school was at CBC
Christian Brothers College.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
A Christian brother.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They're Catholic, but they're not priests, so they don't do
the like the ceremonies the priests do, you know, Like
they don't have they don't say Mass. But they are
sworn to celibacy and they hang out with other men
and they hang out in aid and I think, look,
I think there is I mean, there's not many left.
(04:20):
It's a it's a it's a dying bre. It seems
like they're disciples. What's the difference.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, they are, they're discipled.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They're like they again, sworn to celibacy.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So that's the So that's no sex, right, So you
have no sex without the title.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
They wonted the dwindling, I know, and yeah, and they
some of them are nice, but some of them really angry.
And I think it might have been sexual frustration.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Did you do something that warranted the bunch of their head?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It was Brother O'Brien, and Brother O'Brien was He was
our year eleven religious education teacher, amongst other subjects he taught,
and he wasn't respected Brother Brian. I remember Brother Brian
walking down the corridor one day and there was probably
fifty to sixty kids started chanting, Brother is shagging the cleaner.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh my god, talk about poking, and I wonder what.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And so did you lead the chant?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What was your how?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was probably just laughing at the chat. I didn't know,
and it was I found it funny, but he didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You had the rhythm drum. So make sure everyone's in there.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
On my first stand up comedy gig, I Reckon was
in Brother Brian's year eleven religious class where I hadn't
prepared a speech on some holy figure and I just
started in proing and the whole class were just killing
themselves laughing. It was It was the moment a lot
of here we go, I've got something here, and that
class had to judge the speeches and I got ten
off every class member. Wow, incredible moment in my Life's
(05:51):
like winning an Academy award. And but Brother Brian failed
me in that subject. One of the only subjects I
failed in high school was that year eleven religious education class.
Because of that speech, I believe, and you know what,
but that's what propelled me to do comedy. But he
didn't punch me in the head that day. This other
(06:11):
day was sitting there and made of mine. Moose was
sitting near me, Moose, the big guy, And.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I love how I love how everyone has like a
mate named Moose or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That Moose ended up being a policeman. So and I
wouldn't have ever given him a gun, to be honest,
But so Moose was flicking spitballs, a little bits of
paper that he'd like lick and then just roll up,
and he was flicking them at Brother O'Brien at the
front of the class. And Brother Obrian didn't see what
was happening, and he probably had put fifteen to twenty
spitballs on Brother O'Brien brother Obrian knowing, and then brother
(06:48):
O'Brien looked up and realized he was covered in like
saliva rhythm paper, and he looked up. I was the
only one who had seen what was happening, so no
one else in the class had seen what I'd seen
because I'd seen Moose doing it. And his brother Brian
looked up, saw that I was smiling, thought it must
have been me, and then and then what he Then
(07:10):
he walked to the back of the class, and I
wasn't at the back of the class. I was like
towards the front, and I didn't you don't do a
turn around, but I had no idea. And then I
just it was al mighty whack where he's king hit
me from behind?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
His coward punched you in a classroom.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Brother Brian.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Brian coward punched me. And you know, And because I
didn't want to snitch on Moose, I couldn't say to
him I did not deserve that because but I was
almost concasteric.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
God, he didn't blame news another person.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Getting counted moved me the big guy as well.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
To be honest, did he lose his job?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, because I didn't report.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It smart smart pitched, but he wouldn't have anyone back then,
that was before they got rid of you know, what's
the word capital, not capital, corporal punishment, capital punishment, corporal punishment.
So you were back then you were allowed to hit.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Kids, did you when you were in primary school? Were
they still using the cane?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
There was Miss Hunter? Yeah, Miss Hunter, and she really
she was like eighty. She was in my sister's grade.
It was a year above me. And I remember I
heard rumors that everyone was like, miss Hunter, if you
get her class, because she's eighty, she's from like the
older generation. She was still caning kids, and that for
some reason, no one really stopped her.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She was.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That was just like we'll just wait till she retired.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Or she retired. It's funny like like that.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You can imagine when they were like, look, guys weren't
allowed to hit the students anymore, and all the teachers
were going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Like, oh, well fuck, what do we even do this?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
This Hunter was like, well, I'm fucking leaving this protesting.
Give her three more years, mate.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, but I would have been a shocking moment for
this Christian Brother's college. The moment where you were allowed
to hit kids. That weird, you know, because there was
a lot of kids. Every day some kid was getting
like a meat rule or just snapped.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It half over their art or it's a different time
at different times. What was your relationship like with your
mom and dad, Hughsy.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It was, Look, my mum was it was again they were.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It was a time where it was a big drinking
culture in my hometown. So yeah, so it was. It
was a different time where look, dad drank a lot.
I've talked about this before, but he's yeah, so that
was that could be tricky when your dad is a
big drink as you know, Maddie. So so yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Was as in your walking on eggshell.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, absolutely, because his mood would just go, he'd just
get it, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
He ended up angry, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So it was hard and so and it was he
was a shift work as well for many years. That's
not good for your mental health. So they're like starting
work at midnight or starting work at you know. But anyway,
there was alcohol and shift work. The combination made life
pretty tense in our house for a number of years. Really,
so uh and then I started I stopped drinking before
(09:57):
I turned twenty two, and so there's yeah, So do you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Think growing up with the dad who had a drinking
problem played into the fact that you were aware of
what alcohol can do to people? And maybe you want
to stop?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I mean I don't want to sound like I'm holy
than them. They will give myself too much credit, but
you know what, I didn't want my kid's life to
be as stressful as mine because of alcohol. So I
saw the I think it's I think it's genetic. I
reckon some people just shouldn't drink.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
What what do you mean by stressful as a child.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean, as a child, you shouldn't be stressed really
about anything other than your friends and.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Getting punched by brother.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
If your dad's basically, you know, some of the time
unhinged because of alcohol, that's just stressful for kids. You know,
it's just not knowing what's going to you know, he
was never really it was never really physically violent. Actually
got to say that, but yeah, but yeah, but it
was still the threat of what could happen?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You think, what is going on here? So yeah, so
that was for a number of.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Years, like an emotional role.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, absolutely definitely.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I remember, like there's five kids in my family, and
there was all with four boys, there's always something that
was going to be broken or damaged, and we felt
like Dad used to kind of like walk the house
looking for something.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I know, I know we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
What was it like for you?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, like what sometimes what come up?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Just be just looking for something to get angry at basically,
so grab grab it, like a broom and then find
some cobwebs in the top corner of like a ceiling,
you know what I mean, and just go look at
this and just lose the plot for just crazy reasons.
So no reason. Yeah, sometimes like he definitely wants to
be angry. Whose turn is it today? Who's going to
comp it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Sort of?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
How do you avoid that with the kids in your family?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So it's hard, but I was younger, so maybe I
got off a bit easier than than some of the
others in my Yeah, but it was it was yeah, look,
it was it was stressful, and you know, we well
we loved our parents and Mum was great and Dad
could be great. But yeah, but yeah, we sort of
getting out of the house was there was there was
no staying at home to you're thirty, because it was
(12:01):
you didn't want to. It was too stressful, basically, so
just get out.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Basically leave. How are you when you left left hand?
I was I first.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I was eighteen when I first left, and just after
high school and then yeah, but I came back because
I got evicted from it. I was a bad drinker too,
So we got evicted from a house.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I ended up coming.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Back home, which that was because I didn't know where
else to live.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But you know what I.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Remember, we were I lived in a house. I used
to call it a mad house. So at the age
of eighteen, I moved in with four mates and we
just we were crazy. And it was like we'd all
like everyone had drink stubbies in the lounge room and
then someone would just throw a stubby into a wall
and then you know, everyone else we did be smashing
glass and then you like walk around glass.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's wasn't I wasn't Moose.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Then Moose was involved a bit, but yeah, but then
so it was a crazy house. Actually, now I think
about it, we're in a crazy house when I was
eighteen or ninety and we had feral cats move into
the house.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Sounds like that's how me and animal is just running.
We eventually got evicted from this house.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And then I went home and I took all my
bedding home, but I had, like, I brought home scabies
to my parents.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
What are scabies?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Scabies are like little lice that live in your bedding
when you're bed bug, when it's bed bargs and like
scabies And you're like, that was not like sexual disease.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It was like the eighteenth century, like sailors would get
sc scurvy.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
See the confusion.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Then my parents got home skirvy from the sharehouse.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Both parents end up with this terrible skin condition because
of the the lice infested bedding on brought home my
fucking dad's from this house I've been evicted from as like, yeah, so,
but you know I stopped drinking not long after that actually,
So anyway, so when you.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Talk about the fact that you're bringing scabies back home,
you fucking got smashed bb tallies on the floor. Your
life sounds like a bit of a mess.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Feral cat for one of it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, your farah cats they follow you home or not.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
No, feral cats did not follow something.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
God for that.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
But that was, oh God, that was that was a
terrible time.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was it a real fork in the road moment when
you stopped drinking, that life got on track.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, it was absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So I came back and lived with my parents, and yeah,
my father had probably he'd stopped doing a shift work
by now, so that life was easier. He was still like,
you know, would still drink every day, but he was
he was calmer than what he had been when I
was younger.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
To be honest. So that was you know, it was
it was okay to live.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
At home then.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But yeah, but I was really depressed and I was
like and I sort of connected it to the drinking,
I think, and then so and I just decided to
stop because I would always get out of control when
I drank, So I decided to stop. And yeah, so
I stopped before I turned twenty two, and I started
feeling better straight away. And yeah, so it was the
it was like, you know, that was nineteen ninety two,
(15:07):
was my last drink. So yeah, so and yeah, and
I was twenty one, so it was a big thing
to do. And like kids that age, you're like, you know,
a party, party, party, So I've just gone full party mode.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
If other people.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Weren't drinking, I was like, why aren't you drinking. Why
do you hate us? You know we're having a good
time and you're ruining it because you're sober. You know,
leave Basically, so I was that guy to being the
guy who didn't drink. So yeah, it was weird for
my friends for a while. But then I did know
been the designated driver and so they were happy with that.
I mean, I had some terrible driving experiences with drunks
(15:41):
in my car. I had a guy, look, he's move
not another guy is no longer with us, but he
he once I was doing, I was so annoyed by him.
He was I was doing like eighty k's driving.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It's in Perth.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I moved to person not long after I stopped drinking,
and he's another guy from Wannable. He was so crazy
that I were driving down this beach road in Perth,
and I was so annoyed with him. But he climbed
out of the car window of the passenger side and
onto the bonnet.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
But I was so annoyed at him that I didn't
want to.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I want I wanted to. I wanted him to fall
off the car. But so I'm driving.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You did start this saying he's no longer with us, was.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Always he was always going to die young. But it
was like he's staring through the window at me. I'm
doing eighty k's. I'm going to just put your head down.
I want to see where I'm going. And I was
trying to remember, trying to like get him off on
a corner like so I had think he'd roll off
the car, but he held on to the windscreen wipers
and I did not want to break the winds.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
He's done this before, he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Crazy, that's a crazy time. Did he come off?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
He didn't come off then, but.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
He was back into the window and he was he
was crazy.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I remember once did you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Get to a destination at his house? And thank you?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So we were living together time. It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Remember once were sitting in the lounge and like watching
Wheel of Fortune or something, and he said on boord
but and then so he just grabbed the really heavy
lounge chair and just just picked it up and then
just dropped it on his own head. And he's just oh,
he went back to sitting there and he's just bleeding
watching television. I sat back down, sat down like, oh
that's a psychopath, that's yeah, well yeah, fortune.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's like the wheel keeps spitting around. Someone stop it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Ninety two is when you stopped drinking. Yes, do you
remember the year that you met Holly?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, two thousand and two, ten years later.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And by then, and not to pass your yougo, you
were doing very well for yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I was, Yeah, I just started doing radio in Melbourne.
I'd started the TV show as well on the ABC.
So yeah, I was, I was, I was. I was
the gone.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Which is it's weird that you met in the bar
because you're sober. Yeah, but that's that's all you guys
cross parts.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yes, she barely drinks as well, to be honest, So
which is good if I mean, I've said this a
million times, but if you're if you're, if you don't drink,
you want to be with somebod who doesn't drink. If
you're like, you know, a full time heroin junkie, you
want to be with another full time heroin junkie. And
I think that's love. Yes, And then you can get
through I reckon. You've got to be on the same
page as a partner.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
When they say soul mate, that's exactly what that is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You see, you know, a crackhead couple walking down the
street and then you know they're in love.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
But it's baby, that's what they do.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Fight together. Family anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So yeah, so we met in the bars or just
a fluke on a Friday night that will both happen
to be in the same bars. She was with a
group of blokes. Actually she just.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Broke up with a boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And these blokes came up to say get out of
me because they'd recognize me. And I saw her behind them,
and yeah, she was stunning, and I'm like, my god,
that woman's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
And and then we.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Got talking and her friends left and my friends were
leaving as well, so I was like, this is perfect.
Then one of my friends who had no money and
I lived with him at the time, not Moose or
the other guy, he said, I've got no money. You're driving.
I said, well, sorry, I'm talking to this person here,
so just walk. Yeah, he wouldn't. He refused to walk,
(19:21):
and I said, oh god, I said can he? I said,
I'll give you money for tax I didn't have any
money on me. I said, let's walk to the ADM.
I'll get your money so you can piss off. And
as we're walking to the atm she started talking to him.
I thought, does she want him this? I don't like this,
and so I got annoyed at him and I said
to her, we're going to go.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
So I drove him home, yelling at him.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And because Holly didn't come with, you didn't cock blocker.
And she given she just started as a journalist at
one of the local newspapers and she'd given me her card,
but then she gave him her card.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's confusing, and that was annoying to me.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
That was the moment I was, I don't like this,
so I don't want him to So I yelled him
as we as we drove, and I said, you should
have walked, mate.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
She used to get on and broke broke.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, you know, it's only like a six k walk
that night and exactly exercise for anyway. So talk about
it on the radio on the Monday, and her friends
apparently were listening to the radio, and they rang her
or texted her, and then she called in to the
radio station. Didn't go on hour, but she said to
our producer, I was, you know, I was just being
(20:28):
friendly to your friend, and I said, hang on, maybe
I'm a chance. So I rang her that day and.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
So your producers are husy. She's on the on the phone.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
She wouldn't go on hour, but she said yeah, but
got the got the Yeah, she got the store. I
got the story that she was possibly keen. So that
gave me the impetus to ring her that day. And
then we went to Imax that night. Yeah, that night
had free tickets. So we saw some some three D thing.
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It was like a space thing, was a short thing.
It was only like forty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Good, that's all you needed to be.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, but we have these massive helmets on the three
D things there were you look beautiful to You're going
to space yourself or something. So yeah, but that was
the Yeah. So that night from that night were still
being together.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Did you ever ask her why she gave two cards away,
one to you, one to your friend.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
She said she was just being nice. I don't know
if she was playing the field all night at the time,
so she was.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Just planning the seat.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, She's just like walking around the bar. Gain.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So she was proud of her cards. You know, laminated cards.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Your first card is laminated.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Do you ever get laminated? My used car salesman cards
weren't laminated. They were just flimsy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Cardboard getting a card as a salesman somewhere. I think
I worked at Optus or something and I didn't make
any money.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But I had a card, you know. So yeah, I
don't have a card.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Do you feel like you're my winner?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
My grandmother has all of my cards, all of my
dad's business cards in a folder, so we should find
that because I've had an array of different when I
was a Prince salesman.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
She's loved that card.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Anyway you can Maddie hasn't had a card. If you
never had a card, No.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I did.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I did. I did. I had one in London and
it was just it's a shame because it was right
at the end of the card phase. So like it
was always like damn it was. Yeah, it was kind
of laughable to hand one out, but I was still
I was like, holy I was, I'd get I'd get
a coffee.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
And you're just dishing about. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yeah, I never.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It was never handed out with much purpose.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, I look, I think I was. I never really
just game to my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't give a shout out to all salespeople here.
They work really hard. Salespeople worked so hard.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That is an absolute lie.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
If if you work on commission, they yeah, it's a
dog eat dog. It's every day. The scoreboard gets like
a race. You got to start again every day. Really
hard work. Salespeople well done with the backbone of I
shouldn't hang up on you as much as I do.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I'm not talking about Nigerian sales people. They're they're fine,
they're great. I don't hang up on them. You know,
you wait for that silence on the call. Do you
answer the calls?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I don't get any I'm not getting any of the
text from class. I'm not getting any of the sales
calls from Nigeria. I'm missing out.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You got a private number, some weird sort of thing
that he is.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
One of those guys in the private.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I'm oping I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
He's like, no, I don't get his prank calls anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So I've had the same number for I reckon twenty
five years, maybe longer. And I used to, like on
Saturday nights, I'd be like, answer the phone us, Yeah,
it's it's Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I don't know you. Yeah you do?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
No, I don't you do?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And that was enough for me. Now that they don't
call anymore, man, it's really sad.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't answer.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I'm part of the generation that it's scared to answer
their phone in case it's bad news.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah right, I don't need the bad news.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, in case you end up giving you left kidney
to someone. Yeah, if you get I'm gonna rub.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I only really answer his calls my Lafe's cause that's
probably about it enough.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Do you remember who was yourself or Holly who spearheaded
the baby making process?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I was her?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Yeah, absolutely she.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I wasn't never that.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I wasn't like you know, someone, I wasn't yearning. I
didn't realize how to yearn. There was no yearn for
me for children. But she was straight away, like straight away.
She has been maternal forever basically, so not a not
a nightclub person. So I think there's two types of people,
maternal people and nightclub people. And she wasn't a nightclub person.
So she was like early on in a relationship. I
(24:34):
remember saying that I did a joke about her, but
she said, can we have kids in three years?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I'm like, this is early on.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm like, before you were married.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, three years we're.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Going out like we've been probably out three months when
she said that, yeah, real early, and I'm like, I mean,
I said, no, I'm not sure about that, but we're
gonna have ficking ship tonight. So in the moment, yeah,
so yeah, but she was always really keen. So took
six years to have our first one was two thousand
and nine, so said, seven years before we first had
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our son.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You made her so she wanted three?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You made a wait, do she wanted more than she
wanted more than three kids? She wanted Yeah, actually, yeah,
I made it make double that. You're right, good masks,
but yes, but she I thought you said three kids, but.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
No you didn't. You were talking about earlier. I understand
what you both say.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You do that things like every time you mentioned I'm
going to double the years you got to wait.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But you know what, once we had them, I was,
you know, one year, as you guys know, once you
have one, you're like, you're in love. And I, yeah,
I was very happy to have three, and I actually
wanted to have more and she I thought she wanted
that five initially. But she's like, she said, if you
want to have more, if we're gonna have more kids.
You need to stop, you know, touring stand up comedy.
So I said, no, three's enough enough. So I gave
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up more children because I love stand up comedy. I said,
that's my first love. I just love it more than
I don't love more than my children. Don't get me wrong,
but as much so you got three.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You have to you have to caveat that. We can
after record. You can be honest and tell.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Us, yeah, you got three. And I don't know if
you've heard, but our young man over here.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I know I have my wife and children passed on
their congratulations.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah to me?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
But do you have any tips for a third with Matt?
Matt's been debating for a while, and now it's happening.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Educate the man.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Three is a lot harder, yeahs, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Three. Two is easy.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Two is easy.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
One ah, three, But it's much more work than you
would have thought.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You know. I keet really conflicting messages.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I have.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Some people say, once you're in that that realm of
multiple kids, adding a third is no big deal, But
why was it? What's harder about it?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think you're outnumbered and I'm not the first one
to say that. But yeah, and it's just just one each.
You can you've got two, and you've got two parents,
you can both. You know, it's manage one of them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So the next one, right, Yeah, just hit me out
for a second. If it's two on two, did you
say sports analogy, let's go. I feel like this is
my Yeah. But once a team is then has like
if someone gets sin binned and the team is one
upper player, it's all over.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah. Yeah, but also let me flip that for you please.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay, sometimes the team that has the player sent off
stand up, that's true and actually win the game because.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
They're like, yeah, I hear what you're saying. They're going
to there get extra motivation. We're not going to let
the fact that one of our players got cancust or
you know, sent off because they can cust someone else.
Not going to let that beat it. So yeah, so yeah,
I mean you'll be fine. But it is a lot
of work, so don't think it's not and yeah it's not.
I don't think it's it's not like an extra thirty
(27:48):
three percent work.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's more than that.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I think it's a fifty work.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Wow, even though it's one child, So you would.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Say your third was that was the hardest transition of
all I think so.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But at the time we had three kids. While where
we had the three kids, I was doing breakfast radio,
I was doing nightly TV show, I was doing a
weekend TV show, and I was doing stand up I
was touring stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So wow, crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I probably wasn't home that much, to be honest, but
I was, you know, I was involved on the phone.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Do you remember their names? I do, No, I do jokes.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
They can watch me on TV if they want to.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Three then and three now they're older.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Would you say three now is like glad you had
the three and it's much more fun.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, it would be awkward if you said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I can say my hand on heart it is. Yeah,
we're glad they've got the three and and they're they're
they're good, They're they're self contained. I do we drive
them everywhere those That's one thing, because you know, the
show for service just never ends. And you know, I've
bought them bikes, which are good bikes, which they could ride,
and I'm happy for them to ride them, but they
just don't. They just get a lift. My son gets
(28:56):
a lift to the gym. I'm happy he's going to
the gym, don't get me wrong. But home from the
gym him just fucking just lifts all the time.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
He could exercise to the gym, then gym and then
exercise homes.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He could, he could, he could ride his bike.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I've actually heard it's an issue this country is facing
that kids don't know how to ride bikes anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
My wife doesn't know how to ride a bike and
she's in her thirties.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well that's that's see, that's a rare kids aren't. Kids
aren't riding bikes anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Because my parents are too worried.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Like back in look look at this is I mean,
it's it's it's a like back in the seventies, parents
had more kids. So you don't have like five or
four at four was a minimum. Really, someone have seven
or eight, and you know what, they'd lose the odd kid,
you know what I mean, just like the old kid
would get hit by truck.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Just that was the seventies. Mate.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Then you go to a funeral and there was just
one less kid in that family. But they already had
a number of kids, so they had spares. Now people
aren't having spares?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You have true, very true to have one extra for contingency.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, two or three extra I got made of
mine who is one of eighteen children.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
True story.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
My grandfather was one of fourteen. Yeah, you're right, like
they lose a kid. He would lose a kid every year.
So yeah, they got they got extras, They got extras.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Eighteen's big and no no twins, no twins, dairy farmers
and yeah, and you know you were to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
They milk that cow. But also you've got to keep.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You need to keep your cows pregnant to get milk.
You know, milk only comes from cows that are continually pregnant.
So okay, so I don't know that if he had
the same wife.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
But yeah, eighteen is a big effort.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Was it a hard adjustment for yourself? Usual when you
stop doing breakfast radio?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, I look, I our latest radio show sort of
got halted, you know, towards the end last year.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
And it was a shot for a moment.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
How do they deliver that news.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Well, it's delivered it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Quickly, I suppose, But yeah, so it's not really yeah
all right, yeah so yeah, but so but as it
was a shock for a moment, blow to the ego,
I would say, as well, but then quickly became joyful,
really joyful.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And what was joyful about it?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Just you know what anyone who does Breckegtrader or anyone
who has to get up really early would know. For me,
I'm never been a great sleeper. So it's like every night,
Oh God, it's nine o'clock. I should be in bed.
It's nine thirty, I should be in bed. It's ten o'clock.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I'm in bed.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm not asleep. I should be asleep. It's ten thirty.
I'm still not asleep.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So that four hours.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, Now I don't want to look at the clock,
and so I can't look at it, and so that's
that's stressful. I never really had a proper routine over
twenty years or more. Wow, So yeah, which is annoying.
And then kids come along as they and they're on
their own agendas, and when they're little they go to
bed earlier. It's great, but they get older and then
they're stayed up, and so you're going to bed and
everyone else is awake, and then you're like, then you're
(32:07):
not asleep anyway, you should have stayed awake, So yeah,
every night, and then when I do stand up comedy,
now I can just relax. I don't have to going
first how big on last? So yeah, I'm really happy.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Was it hard to slot into the morning routine because
you would have always been at radio when the kids
are getting ready.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
For her school?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
No, No, it's Holly, like, Dave, you're making this harder.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Look, she still does the lunches, which is I feel
bad about, but she's really leant into it. Like she's
a full time school teacher, but she does the lunches
before she goes to school. And so at the moment
I'm getting up around seven, she probably gets up a
quarter to seven, but she's yeah, she's working hard. I'm involved,
and I always unpacked the dishwasher in the morning.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm like, don't do that, I'll do that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I drive the kids to school.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I am.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I don't sit down much anymore. I'm like, I will
tidy the house. And I've stopped getting angry at the
kids and the fact that they don't tie. You know,
kids should tidy. I actually know. I still get angry
at that, but I'm cleaning up a lot. So I'm
doing all around the house. My wife's very happy, which
is good. So we're happy.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Are you enjoying the transition from being busy, busy, busy
to now being more of a day Are you enjoying
that that process?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Look, I really enjoy I do enjoy being with the kids.
And like my son, for instance, his basketball, he plays
Red Basketball, and I'm drive him to the games most times.
I mean, it's a bit more stand up comedy happening.
Now I'm not I do it quite as much, but
I'm still mainly there. So yeah, I love that sort
of that relationship were having my son and he's basketball,
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so he's been playing red basketball since under twelve, I think, so,
which is a Friday night and it's it's right, you
might have to drive up to an hour and a
half on a Friday night to get to some game
in the middle of nowhere basically, so.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That's annoying, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So the two of us, so I've got a real
Friday night ritual and we get along, you know we.
I mean I will yell at him and he'll yell
back at me. So like we're like I often score basketball.
I'm scoring. And then I think, if he's not switched out.
I'll switched and I'll go switch on mate, you know,
and he will yell at me. I am certainly you're not.
You haven't watched it, you haven't scored yet.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You're six foot six?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Six six foot six? How old is he?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
He turned sixteen the other day.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Goodness, I'm getting a lot of this like when we're
in like I would wear the dentist two days ago,
the three kids at the dentist, they're like, you know,
and good on them. So I picked up from school
early to taking the dentist and get it done. And
their teeth are great, by the way, And which is
what they don't do is they don't drink soft drinks.
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And I drank soft drink all through and I wasn't
a rich kid, but we drank soft drink. I drank
and my teeth and the danist said, they don't want
to get teeth like yours.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And then because he six with six, she goes, where
do you get his height from?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You know, well that's hurtful.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And then his mum's seven foot tall.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
When she goes, I suppose your wife's tall, but you're
not even that tall. She's like five eight. Maybe, yeah,
it's a five eight. She's not in the w NBA,
and she's she's not that tall, so and then.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Is a pleasant height and people wondering.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
In front of my son, who's like his mouth open
because she said it must have been the milkman. Why
would you say that, you know, it's kind of fun
She's basically saying that to my son in the room.
She's saying, he's not your dad, your mum rooted someone else.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Maybe she was trying to be funny, but at least
it's easy to break up with a dentist because you
don't see him that much. If it was a hairdresser,
it would be way way I know, you know what.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And at the end of it, and I do, I
think she was trying to be funny, but but it
was still a bit hurtful. But at the end of
the day, the kids teeth are good, so no cavity
is at all at all. Yeah, I know, it's I'm
that shocked.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That is shocked. That is a rare Well, there's no sugar,
no sugar soft drinks. It is quite a fl I'm
going I touch wood. I've never had a cavity myself and.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
In your life.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Never never, not once me.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, it's I think I've had. Remember I've got a
tooth out last year.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, I've had. I'm missing you know what I'm missing?
Ten teeth?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, well I couldn't tell.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, I mean you probably can, but it's I've had
one replace because it was too close to the front
and made me look too you know, like this guy's
you know, he's sleeping rough. So I got one replaced.
But yeah, I've I had my teeth over the year.
I had some shocking times in the dentist the the
back in the in the seventies and eighties, there wasn't
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much anesthetic. I remember getting a getting a root canal,
you know where they you know, you wouldn't know what
a recon both of you don't root canal is. They
take the whole route out of it to they dig
it out. And the anesthetic hadn't worked on me, and
I'm there's a as a dentist digging a root out
of my mouth and it was either infected or the
(36:58):
antithety hadn't worked. It was it was like Guantanamo Bay stuff.
You're like screaming, I'm like, what the fuck is.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Going on here? This is the worst pain in my life.
It's exactly where the saying comes from. It's like pulling teeth,
that's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Oh yeah, sometimes pulling teeth where to get them out
is so much work, Like three of them trying to
get the two thousand.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I know.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
It was like I'm born in the seventeen hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
And they would have also up soldier to a root
canal because we had a joke where dentist is just
mouth salesman when you go in for a check up
and I'm like, oh, you need the most expensive thing
we have, which is a root canal.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, I'm sure your teeth were fine. Actually, they just
saw you come in and go we'll get this guy.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
We'llet at least one out.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Well, I mean it was they certainly got announced blood
out terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We we get a lot of mixed feedback.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
With the question of should you give your kids pocket money? Yeah,
I have always thought that it's a good idea. It
allows them to understand the value of money. What's your
stance on that? To your kids? Do they get an allowance?
Do they have to do chores? How does that work?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We've been so slack with that, to be honest, so
they really never had to do chores. We've tried to
institute it and it didn't work. We had like a
thing up on the you know, like a little spreadsheet
up on the fridge at some point, but it hasn't worked.
So they don't really get pocket money, no, but they
just want for nothing, you know what I mean. My
son especially, we're just he just texts me can I
(38:25):
get a nice tea? And I have to put money
in his account. Like he's at a seven eleven saying
I want to get a nice.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Tea six or six?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, so can you put some money in my account?
So I go to my banking app and put money
in his account so I can buy a nice tea.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
And that happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
So he but he's got to get a job.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I've decided. He was basketball coaching, so coaching younger teams,
and he was doing really well. But he's quit that
this year too, you know, focus on his studies.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
So I'd rather be working.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Have you ever thought when he's like, hey, can I
get a nice tea? It's like you promised to clean
your room and you get I.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Know, I should have done that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I never have so, but he's put applications in for jobs,
but nothing's come through. I'm like, what are you writing
on these applications? How can you not get a job
at McDonald's when your bloody deadbeat mates working there.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
You know what's he got that you don't have.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I think he's got the enthusiasm and he doesn't have
a parent who's putting money in his account every five minutes. Yeah, yeah,
cut off the supply maybe, yeah, I know, I've got.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Once the iced tea runs out, he'll be there.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I don't have icy money anymore. Hughes.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You are a man who likes a holiday.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Recently you were on a trip to Hawaii. Yes, but
it didn't go to plan.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I look, I have been I injured my shoulder about
it's about fifteen sixteen months ago now, and it was
like dessiccated. And it was that through radio, no surfing.
It was on news eve. So I'm surfing with my family.
It was a surf lesson and my own board took
away without me and just it cow punched me. My
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own board hit me from behind and it took my shoulder.
It dissipated my shoulder from behind, which is apparently more
painful than if it goes backwards. If it goes forwards,
apparently it's more painful. It was the most painful experience
of my life. And I'm just I was on the
beach in writhing in agony for like two hours. It
was at the Gold Coast, so and they didn't they
(40:25):
don't have green whistles at the Gold Coast. So the
surf life savers don't you know, the green whistle were
stuck on it.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
They just don't have them. They're not letting.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
This guy's young bloke said, oh, the government took them
office because we misused them. So apparently they were like
partying with the green whistles that this club is in
you anyway. So I was so painful and I eventually
got the greensle when I ended up, I've done a
whole comedy routine about which is, you know, everything becomes
a comedy for me. But basically it was it was
(40:54):
I got end, which is a like heroin inside a
pill basically, and that's the only get one script of that,
because yeah, it's productive. And then I ended up on
medicinal marijuana for the pain after my shoulder reconstruction, and
the gummies.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
The gummies.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But on Honolulu, I said to my wife on the flight,
I said, over to Honolulu, we're going to be their
tender beause I didn't bring any gummies with me, thinking
that she would go, good on you, you don't need gummies.
But she didn't say that. She said, why do you
tell me that? I said, I thought it was interesting.
She said how often you're having them? I said not
very often, and she said, well, it sounds like you are.
(41:32):
I said, no, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
This is actually rehab for me.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I'm like, well, anyway, it was a bit of information,
and I immediately regretted having told her that. But four
days into the trip, where we were past the vape
shop and I was hooked on vaping for a while,
which happens. But I'm off that that is hard. Nickodine
is the hardest thing to get off, harder than anything else.
And I've given up a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah. One day I just quit smoking.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Did you Yeah, and never had back a day.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Man, you know, I do.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I do wish like I made of mine said to me,
it's a shame that you will never talk to me
you will never experience the joy of a morning coffee
and a cigarette. And I sometimes I wish I would
have that and enjoy it. I tried to smoke, but you.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Don't need any more aids to help you ship trusting.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It does help, But yeah, the nicotine is it's really good. Yeah,
but it's string good though, because then you need it
every five minutes, and that really takes over your life.
Vaping took over my life. I couldn't. I'd be missing,
you know, moments in basketball games because I was in
the you know, of my children, because I was in
the he went on the bench like disabled. I was
in the disabled toilets vaping. You know, I think, what
(42:47):
am I doing. I'm in my fifties and I mean
a disabled toilet. It's some far flung basketball stadium sucking
on a vape, you know.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
And I appealed to be the only one in this
whole bloody you know.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Your son probably enjoyed the break though, ye God.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Anyway, we went past the vape shop and they we
had a chat about me not vaping anymore, and I
can never vape again. I can had that conversation with
a guy who sells vape as we walked past with
my family. Yeah. So, but I saw the sign that
said you don't see gummies on the sign or something,
and I thought, oh god, they sell gummies there in Honolulu.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I didn't know it was legal.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
And so the family went to the beach and I said,
I'm gonna go find somewhere to watch the footy tonight,
and I'll see you at the beach. And I went
back to the gummy shop on the way to find
a bar to watch the footy, and I bought two barrels.
I bought one barrel. Actually it was thirty bucks. That's
outstand was it seemed to be like two hundred in there,
(43:43):
and I'm like this, like must.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Be so weak. I thought that money. I had two straight.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Away and it's like midday in Honolulu, and then nothing
happened for ten minutes. So I just had I had look,
I had one more. I almost had two more. I
had one more, but then the three of them in
another five minutes.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Just I couldn't see.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I was like, I was so munch I was, I
was so paranoid. I was so I couldn't I was
so confused. And I'm going to Honolulu. My family's at
the beach, and I eventually got back to the hotel.
Then it took a long time. I just didn't know
where I was. I've got my hotel room, and I'm like,
I can go to sleep now. But then I realized
(44:22):
at the midday, and and that's going to be weird.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Were you doing the thing where you're like, why am
I breathing so loud? How do I breathe? And you're
like you can't figure out the room properly.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I was on another planet.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
But I'm like, I've got to get to the beach
because my wife can't know.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I lied.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I lied to it, and I lied and said I
was going to find the bar, but I really wanted
to go to the gummy shop. You got to come close,
and he's already sussed on me, and so I said,
I've got to find the beach. So I put the
swimmers on and I tried to find the beach and
that took ages as well, even though it was right
next to the hotel. And I eventually I'm ringing my wife,
going where are you? And she was like where you are?
Speaker 5 (45:00):
You're like three.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
And I've tried to extra. I've got to actra because
you can't know I've lied to her. And then I
swear to god, she's looked at me and she goes
She said to me, why are you wearing my shorts?
Speaker 5 (45:12):
And I had the.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Most ridiculous shorts sign but I couldn't even work out
why I had them on.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
And then I was just like, I don't know. And
then the kids were out.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
There was really calm at why a key beach It wasn't,
but in my head there was.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
A tsunami coming.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And so I've ran out and my son again, he's
six ft six, he might have been six foot four.
Then he's grown a bit lately. But and I'm dragging
him in on a float. He's on a floating. He's like,
just like he's on a calm water on a floating
and I'm dragging him in because what are you doing?
I said, I'm bringing you to safety and we're in
like we're in like waste deep water and he's like,
(45:48):
what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And nothing?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Just don't just don't go back out there. Apparently didn't
have any idea. They didn't know that I was stoning.
My wife knew, and she's like, you're an idiot, And
I went back to hotel. Then I said I'm stoned,
and she said.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I know, I know you wear my underpants as well.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I didn't get it. I went back went to bed
and I didn't get up for the footy that night.
So I bet my son's like, why is't Dad getting
up towards the footy?
Speaker 5 (46:15):
He loves the footy? No, yea was that was?
Speaker 3 (46:18):
That was bad?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
So anyway, she's a patient woman.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
What did you do with the rest of the gummies?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know? I sat there and I'm like, I can't
have any more, and so I didn't have any more
on the trip, and I put them.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
In the bin. I did traumatize.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I put them in the bin. No, I've been back
on him since.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I do have to give you a very big compliment,
CUsing because after the jungle top five, I think it
was top five, we all staid at a lodge.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Now it was top eight mate. I was eight down,
I honestly because you obviously top three, but I was.
I was when we was leaving the jungle because I
got evicted and I was shocked. I got a victored.
I thought me, Maddie thought I was going to win. Well,
he told me that win.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I thought you were going to win anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
So whatever, I got evicted and I was annoyed, but
I thought it was all rigged and that storyboarded and
I would be in the final three whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
But that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And as I'm coming out, I'm like, well, at least
my wife and family won't have to come over, because
as Maddie knows, it was a stress for busy people.
My wife had started her school year and you know,
a trip to Africa is not as valuable for some
people as his for others.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Whatever. That's the way.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I only ended up in South Africa because it was like, hey, yeah,
can you help me get South Africa with these two kids?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And I was like yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
And then my wife's like, you don't go to South
Africa made for like two days.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
So yeah, with three kids, it's a stress to get
over there. So so when I'm coming out, so or
at least my wife I had to come over, and
they producer about that and I said, what, she's there
on the plane now.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I was like, oh shit, So they hadn't.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Landed in Perth like Melbourne Perth Joe Berg and I said,
get it. I've got to get her on the phone
because she might want to turn around. Because anyway, my
daughters wanted to come, but my son wanted to go
back and plays red basketball. He didn't care about. But anyway,
they came over. That was eight So for whatever reason,
they we had eight families. That was actually lovely in
the little where we were staying in the lotch. It
was a beauty of your family and all the other families.
(48:11):
It was great, and you were there toly, so you
didn't get to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Didn't get to enjoy it. But I do remember one
standout for me was the fact that everyone's there with
their kids, and your kids and teenagers are little assholes
most of the time. Like there's a little cafe down
the road where I get a coffee from, and it's
next to a school, and it's sometimes in the afternoon's
full of school kids.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
They tease him.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, and they suck with your kids, Like, I don't know,
if they were just being on their absolute best behavior,
they would look you in the eye, say good morning,
ask you what are you up to today. They'd have
a conversation. Yeah, And you don't often get that from
teenage kids. So I got to say, well done.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, credit to my wife more than me obviously, but
yeah they are, yeah, they're they're good and they and
they'll play with the little kids as well. So you're yeah,
they love playing with your daughters and yeah, I got
two daughters who are bloody.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Yeah, they're good kids. And my son's good as well.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I also have to just say, as well, compliment.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
For the kids.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
But at the airport, you really stitched me up. Yeah,
big time.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
I haven't heard this well.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I was trying to get a business upgrade. Oh yeah, okay,
you do love it business.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
It's his Achilles eight kilos in the jungle.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
We really lost a friendship over it because when we
went to Vegas and there's only one seat and I'm like, oh,
I don't worry, He's like, sorry.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
You're painting me in.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
He wanted to leave you for that fourteen hours or
whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, yeah, And so I was trying to get an upgrade.
Couldn't happen. We're at joe Berg Airport, Johannesburg with those
playing at home, and I was on the phone to
the flight agent and he was trying hard to get
me an upgrade. It wasn't going to happen. And as
I was on the phone, like pleading desperate for an upgrade,
Laura was talking to you, and I didn't know. The
conversation was along the lines of you had said to Laura,
(49:56):
there is no way on earth I'm going to sit
in that business seat for a second. It's going to
go to my wife. Yeah, okay. And then after that conversation,
I then hang up the phone. I go to Laura
and I say, there's been no business class upgrade. I'm
really sorry. You're going to be in premium. Also didn't
know that she was pregnant at the time. Yeah, right,
(50:19):
And so when I walked her to her seat in premium,
she was. It was We had a big argument. Yeah,
a big argument.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, I know, I know it wasn't just you, ors
that the others as well. I guilted Zach into it
as well, and I think Sam Thriday as well. So yeah,
so Zach to in Sam Friday. You know, throw who
are just going to go and business and leave their
partners and kids in economy. But you know what, I
(50:47):
luckily there was some luck. We were able to get
pretty cheap business upgrades. For everyone, and they did as well.
So all those guys paid for their partners to be
in business worth making, honestly. And I'm and my wife's
a mart and she would have let me go in business. Honestly,
she would have let me.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
But I knew I would. It would have been in
the back of it was something.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
There's points that you get deducted, and they would have
been deducted forever.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
I would I would have just sat in the business
class seat and not spoken to them the whole time.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
No, I can't, No, I'm I'm playing a long game, man.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
It was very contentious when he got back and that
story and then people piling.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Still gon attack now, and when Laura announced that she
was pregnant, that everyone's now coming back for a second attack,
being like.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
And she was, you know, I appreciate you doing that.
I appreciate you being honest in that way. And you know,
you know, what's great content and people love to have
their opinion, so well, good on you for being honest
enough to say that you're a selfish asshole.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Excuse me. One final question that we always end on
for the podcast episodes, When your three children are old
enough to fly the nest. They're no longer living with you.
What is the one thing you would want them to
remember about the house they grew up in.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
That.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I'm big on don't take life seriously. I'm big on
laugh your way through life. So that's my don't and
I say to them all the time, which I read,
but I believe it to be true. There's been studies
done and the people who think about themselves the least
of the happiest people. So stop thinking about yourself and
just and I say this almost every day I'm dram
(52:25):
to school. Look at the sun. And I sit in
the jungle as well. Look at the sun. We're on
a planet.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
This is weird.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
The chances of us ever being here are so astronomical.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
Just you know, be happy you're alive.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I really want them just to go through life with
that attitude.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
So yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I love Ituse It's been an absolute pleasure. Lovely to
see you again.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
We've got to keep in touch, all right. So you
went to the Grand Prix, you didn't You didn't ring me?
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Man, what do you ring me? He's going to Grand Prix?
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You know? Handing hours again to catch up with him
to down there.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I was meant to catch up with him.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Down there, and he reads me the night before and
he goes.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm going home.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
You can say what about me.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
I've come down like you. I had a few people, but.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I was like, I'm really gonna I'll get up and.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Laura and the girls and then hugh'sy loved to meet you.
Thank you for coming in. It's your pleasure. It's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Two Doting Dads. Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country
throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
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and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Straight
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Welcome back to three doting dads.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I am Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm Dave Hughy
Hughes and thanks for having me, thanks for including me,
Thanks for widening your doting dad circle.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It is an absolute pleasure. You are now a doting
dad and Husey. In case you didn't realize, this is
a podcast all about parenting. It is the good, it
is the.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Bad and the relatable.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Ash Night, for legal reasons, are not allowed to give advice.
We are mandated by a legal team.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
But there's a loophole. The guests are allowed to give advice.
All right, great, so you have any I'm full of it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
And as Mattie knows from our time and the I'm
a celebrity jungle, I'm full of advice.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
He's a wise man.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And that's why you're here.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Thank you to enlighten us.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Good to enlighten the.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Li and like myself, you off and off and I
come up with the gems and I go, oh my god,
it will help me.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
You'll be on the bus right home after this going fuck.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I just I'm a genius. I'm a parenting genius. I
don't even know it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I do have to say we are, of course, at
my kitchen table. I have a set of school shoes
arriving bake school, not me. Fucking Marley has just grown
out of her school shoes, so I had to order
another pet. They will arrive I think during the record,
and when anyone knocks on the door, Buster will bark
like we're being robbed. Yep, okay, so there's a knock
(01:33):
and there's barking.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I've got a wife who spends I think most of
her nights are buying stuff online, and then she goes
to work until I'm the one who has to be
there during the day, so that happens a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I just wanted to manage expectations, Dave. I want to
talk about what life was like growing up. I'm assuming
it was super yachts, helicopters, not far from what life
is like right now.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
Yeah, so thank you for that assumption.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
But no, I grew up in a country town in
Victoria called Warnambull, which is about maybe thirty thousand people
now it is probably twenty thousand when I was growing up.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Yeah, so we weren't in the rich.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Part of town.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
We're in the commission house area. Of town west warnable,
the emphasis on West Hill west as and so yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Was a different time.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It was more the wild West really in the seventies,
you know. So there was like dogs would roam the streets.
No dogs ever had to stay in yards. How would
just roam the streets and they would get run over
quite often any dog attacks.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, yeah, there was.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Streets you wouldn't want to ride your bike down because
the dogs in that street were like angry. So yeah,
so there's yeah more attacks than they are now, and
dogs could survive the attacks. It was less likely that
the dog would get you know, taken to the farm,
if you know what I mean, if a bit a kid.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Basically the kid would have to.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Look inside themselves and go why did I why did
that dog buy me?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
You know one of this podcasts all about dog attacks.
What about school? I would we would assume that.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You would be the class clown at school.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I was a shy kid, especially early in primary school.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
I was pretty shy.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, so I remember walking around and not speaking to
anyone for probably the first month or two of you know,
and I was just like, how can I get involved
in that game of footy or something? So yeah, It
took me.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
A while to warm up.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
But once I warmed up and became comfortable, yes, then
the humor would flow from me. Especially in high school.
I started year ten, eleven and twelve started being pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, did you get in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, punching the head by a Christian brother once, who's sorry,
a Christian brother, so yeah, and it was a Christian brother.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Christian brother. You don't know what Christian brothers is.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
No enlighteness.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
So I went to most high school was at CBC
Christian Brothers College.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
A Christian brother.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
They're Catholic, but they're not priests, so they don't do
the like the ceremonies the priests do, you know, Like
they don't have they don't say Mass. But they are
sworn to celibacy and they hang out with other men
and they hang out in aid and I think, look,
I think there is I mean, there's not many left.
(04:20):
It's a it's a it's a dying bre. It seems
like they're disciples. What's the difference.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, they are, they're discipled.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
They're like they again, sworn to celibacy.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
So that's the So that's no sex, right, So you
have no sex without the title.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
They wonted the dwindling, I know, and yeah, and they
some of them are nice, but some of them really angry.
And I think it might have been sexual frustration.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
I don't know, but.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Did you do something that warranted the bunch of their head?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
It was Brother O'Brien, and Brother O'Brien was He was
our year eleven religious education teacher, amongst other subjects he taught,
and he wasn't respected Brother Brian. I remember Brother Brian
walking down the corridor one day and there was probably
fifty to sixty kids started chanting, Brother is shagging the cleaner.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Oh my god, talk about poking, and I wonder what.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And so did you lead the chant?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
What was your how?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I was probably just laughing at the chat. I didn't know,
and it was I found it funny, but he didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
You had the rhythm drum. So make sure everyone's in there.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
On my first stand up comedy gig, I Reckon was
in Brother Brian's year eleven religious class where I hadn't
prepared a speech on some holy figure and I just
started in proing and the whole class were just killing
themselves laughing. It was It was the moment a lot
of here we go, I've got something here, and that
class had to judge the speeches and I got ten
off every class member. Wow, incredible moment in my Life's
(05:51):
like winning an Academy award. And but Brother Brian failed
me in that subject. One of the only subjects I
failed in high school was that year eleven religious education class.
Because of that speech, I believe, and you know what,
but that's what propelled me to do comedy. But he
didn't punch me in the head that day. This other
(06:11):
day was sitting there and made of mine. Moose was
sitting near me, Moose, the big guy, And.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
I love how I love how everyone has like a
mate named Moose or something like that.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
That Moose ended up being a policeman. So and I
wouldn't have ever given him a gun, to be honest,
But so Moose was flicking spitballs, a little bits of
paper that he'd like lick and then just roll up,
and he was flicking them at Brother O'Brien at the
front of the class. And Brother Obrian didn't see what
was happening, and he probably had put fifteen to twenty
spitballs on Brother O'Brien brother Obrian knowing, and then brother
(06:48):
O'Brien looked up and realized he was covered in like
saliva rhythm paper, and he looked up. I was the
only one who had seen what was happening, so no
one else in the class had seen what I'd seen
because I'd seen Moose doing it. And his brother Brian
looked up, saw that I was smiling, thought it must
have been me, and then and then what he Then
(07:10):
he walked to the back of the class, and I
wasn't at the back of the class. I was like
towards the front, and I didn't you don't do a
turn around, but I had no idea. And then I
just it was al mighty whack where he's king hit
me from behind?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
His coward punched you in a classroom.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Brother Brian.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Brian coward punched me. And you know, And because I
didn't want to snitch on Moose, I couldn't say to
him I did not deserve that because but I was
almost concasteric.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
God, he didn't blame news another person.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
Getting counted moved me the big guy as well.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
To be honest, did he lose his job?
Speaker 5 (07:49):
No, because I didn't report.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
It smart smart pitched, but he wouldn't have anyone back then,
that was before they got rid of you know, what's
the word capital, not capital, corporal punishment, capital punishment, corporal punishment.
So you were back then you were allowed to hit.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Kids, did you when you were in primary school? Were
they still using the cane?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
There was Miss Hunter? Yeah, Miss Hunter, and she really
she was like eighty. She was in my sister's grade.
It was a year above me. And I remember I
heard rumors that everyone was like, miss Hunter, if you
get her class, because she's eighty, she's from like the
older generation. She was still caning kids, and that for
some reason, no one really stopped her.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
She was.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That was just like we'll just wait till she retired.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Or she retired. It's funny like like that.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
You can imagine when they were like, look, guys weren't
allowed to hit the students anymore, and all the teachers
were going to be.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Like, oh, well fuck, what do we even do this?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
This Hunter was like, well, I'm fucking leaving this protesting.
Give her three more years, mate.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, but I would have been a shocking moment for
this Christian Brother's college. The moment where you were allowed
to hit kids. That weird, you know, because there was
a lot of kids. Every day some kid was getting
like a meat rule or just snapped.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
It half over their art or it's a different time
at different times. What was your relationship like with your
mom and dad, Hughsy.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It was, Look, my mum was it was again they were.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It was a time where it was a big drinking
culture in my hometown. So yeah, so it was. It
was a different time where look, dad drank a lot.
I've talked about this before, but he's yeah, so that
was that could be tricky when your dad is a
big drink as you know, Maddie. So so yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Was as in your walking on eggshell.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Yeah, absolutely, because his mood would just go, he'd just
get it, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
He ended up angry, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
So it was hard and so and it was he
was a shift work as well for many years. That's
not good for your mental health. So they're like starting
work at midnight or starting work at you know. But anyway,
there was alcohol and shift work. The combination made life
pretty tense in our house for a number of years. Really,
so uh and then I started I stopped drinking before
(09:57):
I turned twenty two, and so there's yeah, So do you.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Think growing up with the dad who had a drinking
problem played into the fact that you were aware of
what alcohol can do to people? And maybe you want
to stop?
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I mean I don't want to sound like I'm holy
than them. They will give myself too much credit, but
you know what, I didn't want my kid's life to
be as stressful as mine because of alcohol. So I
saw the I think it's I think it's genetic. I
reckon some people just shouldn't drink.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
What what do you mean by stressful as a child.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I mean, as a child, you shouldn't be stressed really
about anything other than your friends and.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Getting punched by brother.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
If your dad's basically, you know, some of the time
unhinged because of alcohol, that's just stressful for kids. You know,
it's just not knowing what's going to you know, he
was never really it was never really physically violent. Actually
got to say that, but yeah, but yeah, but it
was still the threat of what could happen?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You think, what is going on here? So yeah, so
that was for a number of.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Years, like an emotional role.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yeah, absolutely definitely.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
I remember, like there's five kids in my family, and
there was all with four boys, there's always something that
was going to be broken or damaged, and we felt
like Dad used to kind of like walk the house
looking for something.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
I know, I know we're talking about.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
What was it like for you?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, like what sometimes what come up?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Just be just looking for something to get angry at basically,
so grab grab it, like a broom and then find
some cobwebs in the top corner of like a ceiling,
you know what I mean, and just go look at
this and just lose the plot for just crazy reasons.
So no reason. Yeah, sometimes like he definitely wants to
be angry. Whose turn is it today? Who's going to
comp it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Sort of?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
How do you avoid that with the kids in your family?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
So it's hard, but I was younger, so maybe I
got off a bit easier than than some of the
others in my Yeah, but it was it was yeah, look,
it was it was stressful, and you know, we well
we loved our parents and Mum was great and Dad
could be great. But yeah, but yeah, we sort of
getting out of the house was there was there was
no staying at home to you're thirty, because it was
(12:01):
you didn't want to. It was too stressful, basically, so
just get out.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Basically leave. How are you when you left left hand?
I was I first.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I was eighteen when I first left, and just after
high school and then yeah, but I came back because
I got evicted from it. I was a bad drinker too,
So we got evicted from a house.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I ended up coming.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Back home, which that was because I didn't know where
else to live.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
But you know what I.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Remember, we were I lived in a house. I used
to call it a mad house. So at the age
of eighteen, I moved in with four mates and we
just we were crazy. And it was like we'd all
like everyone had drink stubbies in the lounge room and
then someone would just throw a stubby into a wall
and then you know, everyone else we did be smashing
glass and then you like walk around glass.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's wasn't I wasn't Moose.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Then Moose was involved a bit, but yeah, but then
so it was a crazy house. Actually, now I think
about it, we're in a crazy house when I was
eighteen or ninety and we had feral cats move into
the house.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
That's not good.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Sounds like that's how me and animal is just running.
We eventually got evicted from this house.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
And then I went home and I took all my
bedding home, but I had, like, I brought home scabies
to my parents.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
What are scabies?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Scabies are like little lice that live in your bedding
when you're bed bug, when it's bed bargs and like
scabies And you're like, that was not like sexual disease.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
It was like the eighteenth century, like sailors would get
sc scurvy.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
See the confusion.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Then my parents got home skirvy from the sharehouse.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Both parents end up with this terrible skin condition because
of the the lice infested bedding on brought home my
fucking dad's from this house I've been evicted from as like, yeah, so,
but you know I stopped drinking not long after that actually,
So anyway, so when you.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Talk about the fact that you're bringing scabies back home,
you fucking got smashed bb tallies on the floor. Your
life sounds like a bit of a mess.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Feral cat for one of it.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yeah, your farah cats they follow you home or not.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
No, feral cats did not follow something.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
God for that.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
But that was, oh God, that was that was a
terrible time.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Was it a real fork in the road moment when
you stopped drinking, that life got on track.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Yeah, it was absolutely.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
So I came back and lived with my parents, and yeah,
my father had probably he'd stopped doing a shift work
by now, so that life was easier. He was still like,
you know, would still drink every day, but he was
he was calmer than what he had been when I
was younger.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
To be honest. So that was you know, it was
it was okay to live.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
At home then.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
But yeah, but I was really depressed and I was
like and I sort of connected it to the drinking,
I think, and then so and I just decided to
stop because I would always get out of control when
I drank, So I decided to stop. And yeah, so
I stopped before I turned twenty two, and I started
feeling better straight away. And yeah, so it was the
it was like, you know, that was nineteen ninety two,
(15:07):
was my last drink. So yeah, so and yeah, and
I was twenty one, so it was a big thing
to do. And like kids that age, you're like, you know,
a party, party, party, So I've just gone full party mode.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
If other people.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Weren't drinking, I was like, why aren't you drinking. Why
do you hate us? You know we're having a good
time and you're ruining it because you're sober. You know,
leave Basically, so I was that guy to being the
guy who didn't drink. So yeah, it was weird for
my friends for a while. But then I did know
been the designated driver and so they were happy with that.
I mean, I had some terrible driving experiences with drunks
(15:41):
in my car. I had a guy, look, he's move
not another guy is no longer with us, but he
he once I was doing, I was so annoyed by him.
He was I was doing like eighty k's driving.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
It's in Perth.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I moved to person not long after I stopped drinking,
and he's another guy from Wannable. He was so crazy
that I were driving down this beach road in Perth,
and I was so annoyed with him. But he climbed
out of the car window of the passenger side and
onto the bonnet.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
But I was so annoyed at him that I didn't
want to.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
I want I wanted to. I wanted him to fall
off the car. But so I'm driving.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
You did start this saying he's no longer with us, was.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Always he was always going to die young. But it
was like he's staring through the window at me. I'm
doing eighty k's. I'm going to just put your head down.
I want to see where I'm going. And I was
trying to remember, trying to like get him off on
a corner like so I had think he'd roll off
the car, but he held on to the windscreen wipers
and I did not want to break the winds.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
He's done this before, he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Crazy, that's a crazy time. Did he come off?
Speaker 3 (16:53):
He didn't come off then, but.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
He was back into the window and he was he
was crazy.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
I remember once did you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Get to a destination at his house? And thank you?
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So we were living together time. It was terrible.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Remember once were sitting in the lounge and like watching
Wheel of Fortune or something, and he said on boord
but and then so he just grabbed the really heavy
lounge chair and just just picked it up and then
just dropped it on his own head. And he's just oh,
he went back to sitting there and he's just bleeding
watching television. I sat back down, sat down like, oh
that's a psychopath, that's yeah, well yeah, fortune.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's like the wheel keeps spitting around. Someone stop it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Ninety two is when you stopped drinking. Yes, do you
remember the year that you met Holly?
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Yeah, two thousand and two, ten years later.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And by then, and not to pass your yougo, you
were doing very well for yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
I was, Yeah, I just started doing radio in Melbourne.
I'd started the TV show as well on the ABC.
So yeah, I was, I was, I was. I was
the gone.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Which is it's weird that you met in the bar
because you're sober. Yeah, but that's that's all you guys
cross parts.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yes, she barely drinks as well, to be honest, So
which is good if I mean, I've said this a
million times, but if you're if you're, if you don't drink,
you want to be with somebod who doesn't drink. If
you're like, you know, a full time heroin junkie, you
want to be with another full time heroin junkie. And
I think that's love. Yes, And then you can get
through I reckon. You've got to be on the same
page as a partner.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
When they say soul mate, that's exactly what that is.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You see, you know, a crackhead couple walking down the
street and then you know they're in love.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
But it's baby, that's what they do.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Fight together. Family anyway.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
So yeah, so we met in the bars or just
a fluke on a Friday night that will both happen
to be in the same bars. She was with a
group of blokes. Actually she just.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Broke up with a boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And these blokes came up to say get out of
me because they'd recognize me. And I saw her behind them,
and yeah, she was stunning, and I'm like, my god,
that woman's beautiful.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
And and then we.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Got talking and her friends left and my friends were
leaving as well, so I was like, this is perfect.
Then one of my friends who had no money and
I lived with him at the time, not Moose or
the other guy, he said, I've got no money. You're driving.
I said, well, sorry, I'm talking to this person here,
so just walk. Yeah, he wouldn't. He refused to walk,
(19:21):
and I said, oh god, I said can he? I said,
I'll give you money for tax I didn't have any
money on me. I said, let's walk to the ADM.
I'll get your money so you can piss off. And
as we're walking to the atm she started talking to him.
I thought, does she want him this? I don't like this,
and so I got annoyed at him and I said
to her, we're going to go.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
So I drove him home, yelling at him.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And because Holly didn't come with, you didn't cock blocker.
And she given she just started as a journalist at
one of the local newspapers and she'd given me her card,
but then she gave him her card.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's confusing, and that was annoying to me.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
That was the moment I was, I don't like this,
so I don't want him to So I yelled him
as we as we drove, and I said, you should
have walked, mate.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
She used to get on and broke broke.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, you know, it's only like a six k walk
that night and exactly exercise for anyway. So talk about
it on the radio on the Monday, and her friends
apparently were listening to the radio, and they rang her
or texted her, and then she called in to the
radio station. Didn't go on hour, but she said to
our producer, I was, you know, I was just being
(20:28):
friendly to your friend, and I said, hang on, maybe
I'm a chance. So I rang her that day and.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
So your producers are husy. She's on the on the phone.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
She wouldn't go on hour, but she said yeah, but
got the got the Yeah, she got the store. I
got the story that she was possibly keen. So that
gave me the impetus to ring her that day. And
then we went to Imax that night. Yeah, that night
had free tickets. So we saw some some three D thing.
(20:56):
It was like a space thing, was a short thing.
It was only like forty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Good, that's all you needed to be.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, but we have these massive helmets on the three
D things there were you look beautiful to You're going
to space yourself or something. So yeah, but that was
the Yeah. So that night from that night were still
being together.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
Did you ever ask her why she gave two cards away,
one to you, one to your friend.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
She said she was just being nice. I don't know
if she was playing the field all night at the time,
so she was.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Just planning the seat.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, She's just like walking around the bar. Gain.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
So she was proud of her cards. You know, laminated cards.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Your first card is laminated.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
Do you ever get laminated? My used car salesman cards
weren't laminated. They were just flimsy.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Cardboard getting a card as a salesman somewhere. I think
I worked at Optus or something and I didn't make
any money.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
But I had a card, you know. So yeah, I
don't have a card.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Do you feel like you're my winner?
Speaker 4 (21:47):
My grandmother has all of my cards, all of my
dad's business cards in a folder, so we should find
that because I've had an array of different when I
was a Prince salesman.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
She's loved that card.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Anyway you can Maddie hasn't had a card. If you
never had a card, No.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
I did.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I did. I did. I had one in London and
it was just it's a shame because it was right
at the end of the card phase. So like it
was always like damn it was. Yeah, it was kind
of laughable to hand one out, but I was still
I was like, holy I was, I'd get I'd get
a coffee.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
And you're just dishing about. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Yeah, I never.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It was never handed out with much purpose.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, I look, I think I was. I never really
just game to my grandmother.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
I don't give a shout out to all salespeople here.
They work really hard. Salespeople worked so hard.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
That is an absolute lie.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
If if you work on commission, they yeah, it's a
dog eat dog. It's every day. The scoreboard gets like
a race. You got to start again every day. Really
hard work. Salespeople well done with the backbone of I
shouldn't hang up on you as much as I do.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I'm not talking about Nigerian sales people. They're they're fine,
they're great. I don't hang up on them. You know,
you wait for that silence on the call. Do you
answer the calls?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
I don't get any I'm not getting any of the
text from class. I'm not getting any of the sales
calls from Nigeria. I'm missing out.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
You got a private number, some weird sort of thing
that he is.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
One of those guys in the private.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I'm oping I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
He's like, no, I don't get his prank calls anymore.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So I've had the same number for I reckon twenty
five years, maybe longer. And I used to, like on
Saturday nights, I'd be like, answer the phone us, Yeah,
it's it's Jimmy.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
I don't know you. Yeah you do?
Speaker 5 (23:39):
No, I don't you do?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And that was enough for me. Now that they don't
call anymore, man, it's really sad.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
I don't answer.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
I'm part of the generation that it's scared to answer
their phone in case it's bad news.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Yeah right, I don't need the bad news.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, in case you end up giving you left kidney
to someone. Yeah, if you get I'm gonna rub.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I only really answer his calls my Lafe's cause that's
probably about it enough.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Do you remember who was yourself or Holly who spearheaded
the baby making process?
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I was her?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Yeah, absolutely she.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
I wasn't never that.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
I wasn't like you know, someone, I wasn't yearning. I
didn't realize how to yearn. There was no yearn for
me for children. But she was straight away, like straight away.
She has been maternal forever basically, so not a not
a nightclub person. So I think there's two types of people,
maternal people and nightclub people. And she wasn't a nightclub person.
So she was like early on in a relationship. I
(24:34):
remember saying that I did a joke about her, but
she said, can we have kids in three years?
Speaker 5 (24:39):
I'm like, this is early on.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I'm like, before you were married.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Yeah, three years we're.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Going out like we've been probably out three months when
she said that, yeah, real early, and I'm like, I mean,
I said, no, I'm not sure about that, but we're
gonna have ficking ship tonight. So in the moment, yeah,
so yeah, but she was always really keen. So took
six years to have our first one was two thousand
and nine, so said, seven years before we first had
(25:05):
our son.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
You made her so she wanted three?
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You made a wait, do she wanted more than she
wanted more than three kids? She wanted Yeah, actually, yeah,
I made it make double that. You're right, good masks,
but yes, but she I thought you said three kids, but.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
No you didn't. You were talking about earlier. I understand
what you both say.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
You do that things like every time you mentioned I'm
going to double the years you got to wait.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
But you know what, once we had them, I was,
you know, one year, as you guys know, once you
have one, you're like, you're in love. And I, yeah,
I was very happy to have three, and I actually
wanted to have more and she I thought she wanted
that five initially. But she's like, she said, if you
want to have more, if we're gonna have more kids.
You need to stop, you know, touring stand up comedy.
So I said, no, three's enough enough. So I gave
(25:48):
up more children because I love stand up comedy. I said,
that's my first love. I just love it more than
I don't love more than my children. Don't get me wrong,
but as much so you got three.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
You have to you have to caveat that. We can
after record. You can be honest and tell.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Us, yeah, you got three. And I don't know if
you've heard, but our young man over here.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I know I have my wife and children passed on
their congratulations.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah to me?
Speaker 4 (26:16):
But do you have any tips for a third with Matt?
Matt's been debating for a while, and now it's happening.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Educate the man.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Three is a lot harder, yeahs, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Three. Two is easy.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
Two is easy.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
One ah, three, But it's much more work than you
would have thought.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
You know. I keet really conflicting messages.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
I have.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Some people say, once you're in that that realm of
multiple kids, adding a third is no big deal, But
why was it? What's harder about it?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I think you're outnumbered and I'm not the first one
to say that. But yeah, and it's just just one each.
You can you've got two, and you've got two parents,
you can both. You know, it's manage one of them.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So the next one, right, Yeah, just hit me out
for a second. If it's two on two, did you
say sports analogy, let's go. I feel like this is
my Yeah. But once a team is then has like
if someone gets sin binned and the team is one
upper player, it's all over.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah. Yeah, but also let me flip that for you please.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay, sometimes the team that has the player sent off
stand up, that's true and actually win the game because.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
They're like, yeah, I hear what you're saying. They're going
to there get extra motivation. We're not going to let
the fact that one of our players got cancust or
you know, sent off because they can cust someone else.
Not going to let that beat it. So yeah, so yeah,
I mean you'll be fine. But it is a lot
of work, so don't think it's not and yeah it's not.
I don't think it's it's not like an extra thirty
(27:48):
three percent work.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
It's more than that.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I think it's a fifty work.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Wow, even though it's one child, So you would.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Say your third was that was the hardest transition of
all I think so.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
But at the time we had three kids. While where
we had the three kids, I was doing breakfast radio,
I was doing nightly TV show, I was doing a
weekend TV show, and I was doing stand up I
was touring stand up comedy.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So wow, crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I probably wasn't home that much, to be honest, but
I was, you know, I was involved on the phone.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Do you remember their names? I do, No, I do jokes.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
They can watch me on TV if they want to.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Three then and three now they're older.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
Would you say three now is like glad you had
the three and it's much more fun.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Yeah, it would be awkward if you said, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I can say my hand on heart it is. Yeah,
we're glad they've got the three and and they're they're
they're good, They're they're self contained. I do we drive
them everywhere those That's one thing, because you know, the
show for service just never ends. And you know, I've
bought them bikes, which are good bikes, which they could ride,
and I'm happy for them to ride them, but they
just don't. They just get a lift. My son gets
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a lift to the gym. I'm happy he's going to
the gym, don't get me wrong. But home from the
gym him just fucking just lifts all the time.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
He could exercise to the gym, then gym and then
exercise homes.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
He could, he could, he could ride his bike.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I've actually heard it's an issue this country is facing
that kids don't know how to ride bikes anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
My wife doesn't know how to ride a bike and
she's in her thirties.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Well that's that's see, that's a rare kids aren't. Kids
aren't riding bikes anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
Because my parents are too worried.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Like back in look look at this is I mean,
it's it's it's a like back in the seventies, parents
had more kids. So you don't have like five or
four at four was a minimum. Really, someone have seven
or eight, and you know what, they'd lose the odd kid,
you know what I mean, just like the old kid
would get hit by truck.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
Just that was the seventies. Mate.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Then you go to a funeral and there was just
one less kid in that family. But they already had
a number of kids, so they had spares. Now people
aren't having spares?
Speaker 1 (30:03):
You have true, very true to have one extra for contingency.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Yeah, yeah, two or three extra I got made of
mine who is one of eighteen children.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
True story.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
My grandfather was one of fourteen. Yeah, you're right, like
they lose a kid. He would lose a kid every year.
So yeah, they got they got extras, They got extras.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Eighteen's big and no no twins, no twins, dairy farmers
and yeah, and you know you were to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
They milk that cow. But also you've got to keep.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
You need to keep your cows pregnant to get milk.
You know, milk only comes from cows that are continually pregnant.
So okay, so I don't know that if he had
the same wife.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
But yeah, eighteen is a big effort.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Was it a hard adjustment for yourself? Usual when you
stop doing breakfast radio?
Speaker 5 (30:52):
No?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
No, I look, I our latest radio show sort of
got halted, you know, towards the end last year.
Speaker 5 (31:01):
And it was a shot for a moment.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
How do they deliver that news.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
Well, it's delivered it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Quickly, I suppose, But yeah, so it's not really yeah
all right, yeah so yeah, but so but as it
was a shock for a moment, blow to the ego,
I would say, as well, but then quickly became joyful,
really joyful.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And what was joyful about it?
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Just you know what anyone who does Breckegtrader or anyone
who has to get up really early would know. For me,
I'm never been a great sleeper. So it's like every night,
Oh God, it's nine o'clock. I should be in bed.
It's nine thirty, I should be in bed. It's ten o'clock.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I'm in bed.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
I'm not asleep. I should be asleep. It's ten thirty.
I'm still not asleep.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So that four hours.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah, Now I don't want to look at the clock,
and so I can't look at it, and so that's
that's stressful. I never really had a proper routine over
twenty years or more. Wow, So yeah, which is annoying.
And then kids come along as they and they're on
their own agendas, and when they're little they go to
bed earlier. It's great, but they get older and then
they're stayed up, and so you're going to bed and
everyone else is awake, and then you're like, then you're
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not asleep anyway, you should have stayed awake, So yeah,
every night, and then when I do stand up comedy,
now I can just relax. I don't have to going
first how big on last? So yeah, I'm really happy.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Was it hard to slot into the morning routine because
you would have always been at radio when the kids
are getting ready.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
For her school?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
No, No, it's Holly, like, Dave, you're making this harder.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Look, she still does the lunches, which is I feel
bad about, but she's really leant into it. Like she's
a full time school teacher, but she does the lunches
before she goes to school. And so at the moment
I'm getting up around seven, she probably gets up a
quarter to seven, but she's yeah, she's working hard. I'm involved,
and I always unpacked the dishwasher in the morning.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I'm like, don't do that, I'll do that.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
I drive the kids to school.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I am.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I don't sit down much anymore. I'm like, I will
tidy the house. And I've stopped getting angry at the
kids and the fact that they don't tie. You know,
kids should tidy. I actually know. I still get angry
at that, but I'm cleaning up a lot. So I'm
doing all around the house. My wife's very happy, which
is good. So we're happy.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Are you enjoying the transition from being busy, busy, busy
to now being more of a day Are you enjoying
that that process?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Look, I really enjoy I do enjoy being with the kids.
And like my son, for instance, his basketball, he plays
Red Basketball, and I'm drive him to the games most times.
I mean, it's a bit more stand up comedy happening.
Now I'm not I do it quite as much, but
I'm still mainly there. So yeah, I love that sort
of that relationship were having my son and he's basketball,
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so he's been playing red basketball since under twelve, I think, so,
which is a Friday night and it's it's right, you
might have to drive up to an hour and a
half on a Friday night to get to some game
in the middle of nowhere basically, so.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
That's annoying, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
So the two of us, so I've got a real
Friday night ritual and we get along, you know we.
I mean I will yell at him and he'll yell
back at me. So like we're like I often score basketball.
I'm scoring. And then I think, if he's not switched out.
I'll switched and I'll go switch on mate, you know,
and he will yell at me. I am certainly you're not.
You haven't watched it, you haven't scored yet.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
You're six foot six?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
What are you doing?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Six six foot six? How old is he?
Speaker 5 (34:17):
He turned sixteen the other day.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Goodness, I'm getting a lot of this like when we're
in like I would wear the dentist two days ago,
the three kids at the dentist, they're like, you know,
and good on them. So I picked up from school
early to taking the dentist and get it done. And
their teeth are great, by the way, And which is
what they don't do is they don't drink soft drinks.
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And I drank soft drink all through and I wasn't
a rich kid, but we drank soft drink. I drank
and my teeth and the danist said, they don't want
to get teeth like yours.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
And then because he six with six, she goes, where
do you get his height from?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
You know, well that's hurtful.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
And then his mum's seven foot tall.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
When she goes, I suppose your wife's tall, but you're
not even that tall. She's like five eight. Maybe, yeah,
it's a five eight. She's not in the w NBA,
and she's she's not that tall, so and then.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Is a pleasant height and people wondering.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
In front of my son, who's like his mouth open
because she said it must have been the milkman. Why
would you say that, you know, it's kind of fun
She's basically saying that to my son in the room.
She's saying, he's not your dad, your mum rooted someone else.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Maybe she was trying to be funny, but at least
it's easy to break up with a dentist because you
don't see him that much. If it was a hairdresser,
it would be way way I know, you know what.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
And at the end of it, and I do, I
think she was trying to be funny, but but it
was still a bit hurtful. But at the end of
the day, the kids teeth are good, so no cavity
is at all at all. Yeah, I know, it's I'm
that shocked.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
That is shocked. That is a rare Well, there's no sugar,
no sugar soft drinks. It is quite a fl I'm
going I touch wood. I've never had a cavity myself and.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
In your life.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Never never, not once me.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Yeah, it's I think I've had. Remember I've got a
tooth out last year.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, I've had. I'm missing you know what I'm missing?
Ten teeth?
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Okay, well I couldn't tell.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, I mean you probably can, but it's I've had
one replace because it was too close to the front
and made me look too you know, like this guy's
you know, he's sleeping rough. So I got one replaced.
But yeah, I've I had my teeth over the year.
I had some shocking times in the dentist the the
back in the in the seventies and eighties, there wasn't
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much anesthetic. I remember getting a getting a root canal,
you know where they you know, you wouldn't know what
a recon both of you don't root canal is. They
take the whole route out of it to they dig
it out. And the anesthetic hadn't worked on me, and
I'm there's a as a dentist digging a root out
of my mouth and it was either infected or the
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antithety hadn't worked. It was it was like Guantanamo Bay stuff.
You're like screaming, I'm like, what the fuck is.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Going on here? This is the worst pain in my life.
It's exactly where the saying comes from. It's like pulling teeth,
that's exactly it.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Oh yeah, sometimes pulling teeth where to get them out
is so much work, Like three of them trying to
get the two thousand.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
I know.
Speaker 5 (37:20):
It was like I'm born in the seventeen hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
And they would have also up soldier to a root
canal because we had a joke where dentist is just
mouth salesman when you go in for a check up
and I'm like, oh, you need the most expensive thing
we have, which is a root canal.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, I'm sure your teeth were fine. Actually, they just
saw you come in and go we'll get this guy.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
We'llet at least one out.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Well, I mean it was they certainly got announced blood
out terrible.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
We we get a lot of mixed feedback.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
With the question of should you give your kids pocket money? Yeah,
I have always thought that it's a good idea. It
allows them to understand the value of money. What's your
stance on that? To your kids? Do they get an allowance?
Do they have to do chores? How does that work?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
We've been so slack with that, to be honest, so
they really never had to do chores. We've tried to
institute it and it didn't work. We had like a
thing up on the you know, like a little spreadsheet
up on the fridge at some point, but it hasn't worked.
So they don't really get pocket money, no, but they
just want for nothing, you know what I mean. My
son especially, we're just he just texts me can I
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get a nice tea? And I have to put money
in his account. Like he's at a seven eleven saying
I want to get a nice.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Tea six or six?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, so can you put some money in my account?
So I go to my banking app and put money
in his account so I can buy a nice tea.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
And that happens a lot.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
So he but he's got to get a job.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I've decided. He was basketball coaching, so coaching younger teams,
and he was doing really well. But he's quit that
this year too, you know, focus on his studies.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
So I'd rather be working.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
Have you ever thought when he's like, hey, can I
get a nice tea? It's like you promised to clean
your room and you get I.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Know, I should have done that.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
I never have so, but he's put applications in for jobs,
but nothing's come through. I'm like, what are you writing
on these applications? How can you not get a job
at McDonald's when your bloody deadbeat mates working there.
Speaker 5 (39:14):
You know what's he got that you don't have.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I think he's got the enthusiasm and he doesn't have
a parent who's putting money in his account every five minutes. Yeah, yeah,
cut off the supply maybe, yeah, I know, I've got.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
To do it.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Once the iced tea runs out, he'll be there.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
I don't have icy money anymore. Hughes.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
You are a man who likes a holiday.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
Recently you were on a trip to Hawaii. Yes, but
it didn't go to plan.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
No.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I look, I have been I injured my shoulder about
it's about fifteen sixteen months ago now, and it was
like dessiccated. And it was that through radio, no surfing.
It was on news eve. So I'm surfing with my family.
It was a surf lesson and my own board took
away without me and just it cow punched me. My
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own board hit me from behind and it took my shoulder.
It dissipated my shoulder from behind, which is apparently more
painful than if it goes backwards. If it goes forwards,
apparently it's more painful. It was the most painful experience
of my life. And I'm just I was on the
beach in writhing in agony for like two hours. It
was at the Gold Coast, so and they didn't they
(40:25):
don't have green whistles at the Gold Coast. So the
surf life savers don't you know, the green whistle were
stuck on it.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
They just don't have them. They're not letting.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
This guy's young bloke said, oh, the government took them
office because we misused them. So apparently they were like
partying with the green whistles that this club is in
you anyway. So I was so painful and I eventually
got the greensle when I ended up, I've done a
whole comedy routine about which is, you know, everything becomes
a comedy for me. But basically it was it was
(40:54):
I got end, which is a like heroin inside a
pill basically, and that's the only get one script of that,
because yeah, it's productive. And then I ended up on
medicinal marijuana for the pain after my shoulder reconstruction, and
the gummies.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
The gummies.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
But on Honolulu, I said to my wife on the flight,
I said, over to Honolulu, we're going to be their
tender beause I didn't bring any gummies with me, thinking
that she would go, good on you, you don't need gummies.
But she didn't say that. She said, why do you
tell me that? I said, I thought it was interesting.
She said how often you're having them? I said not
very often, and she said, well, it sounds like you are.
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I said, no, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
This is actually rehab for me.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I'm like, well, anyway, it was a bit of information,
and I immediately regretted having told her that. But four
days into the trip, where we were past the vape
shop and I was hooked on vaping for a while,
which happens. But I'm off that that is hard. Nickodine
is the hardest thing to get off, harder than anything else.
And I've given up a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Yeah. One day I just quit smoking.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Did you Yeah, and never had back a day.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Man, you know, I do.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
I do wish like I made of mine said to me,
it's a shame that you will never talk to me
you will never experience the joy of a morning coffee
and a cigarette. And I sometimes I wish I would
have that and enjoy it. I tried to smoke, but you.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Don't need any more aids to help you ship trusting.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
It does help, But yeah, the nicotine is it's really good. Yeah,
but it's string good though, because then you need it
every five minutes, and that really takes over your life.
Vaping took over my life. I couldn't. I'd be missing,
you know, moments in basketball games because I was in
the you know, of my children, because I was in
the he went on the bench like disabled. I was
in the disabled toilets vaping. You know, I think, what
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am I doing. I'm in my fifties and I mean
a disabled toilet. It's some far flung basketball stadium sucking
on a vape, you know.
Speaker 5 (42:54):
And I appealed to be the only one in this
whole bloody you know.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Your son probably enjoyed the break though, ye God.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Anyway, we went past the vape shop and they we
had a chat about me not vaping anymore, and I
can never vape again. I can had that conversation with
a guy who sells vape as we walked past with
my family. Yeah. So, but I saw the sign that
said you don't see gummies on the sign or something,
and I thought, oh god, they sell gummies there in Honolulu.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
I didn't know it was legal.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
And so the family went to the beach and I said,
I'm gonna go find somewhere to watch the footy tonight,
and I'll see you at the beach. And I went
back to the gummy shop on the way to find
a bar to watch the footy, and I bought two barrels.
I bought one barrel. Actually it was thirty bucks. That's
outstand was it seemed to be like two hundred in there,
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and I'm like this, like must.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Be so weak. I thought that money. I had two straight.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Away and it's like midday in Honolulu, and then nothing
happened for ten minutes. So I just had I had look,
I had one more. I almost had two more. I
had one more, but then the three of them in
another five minutes.
Speaker 5 (44:00):
Just I couldn't see.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
I was like, I was so munch I was, I
was so paranoid. I was so I couldn't I was
so confused. And I'm going to Honolulu. My family's at
the beach, and I eventually got back to the hotel.
Then it took a long time. I just didn't know
where I was. I've got my hotel room, and I'm like,
I can go to sleep now. But then I realized
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at the midday, and and that's going to be weird.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
Were you doing the thing where you're like, why am
I breathing so loud? How do I breathe? And you're
like you can't figure out the room properly.
Speaker 5 (44:34):
I was on another planet.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
But I'm like, I've got to get to the beach
because my wife can't know.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
I lied.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
I lied to it, and I lied and said I
was going to find the bar, but I really wanted
to go to the gummy shop. You got to come close,
and he's already sussed on me, and so I said,
I've got to find the beach. So I put the
swimmers on and I tried to find the beach and
that took ages as well, even though it was right
next to the hotel. And I eventually I'm ringing my wife,
going where are you? And she was like where you are?
Speaker 5 (45:00):
You're like three.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
And I've tried to extra. I've got to actra because
you can't know I've lied to her. And then I
swear to god, she's looked at me and she goes
She said to me, why are you wearing my shorts?
Speaker 5 (45:12):
And I had the.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Most ridiculous shorts sign but I couldn't even work out
why I had them on.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
And then I was just like, I don't know. And
then the kids were out.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
There was really calm at why a key beach It wasn't,
but in my head there was.
Speaker 5 (45:24):
A tsunami coming.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
And so I've ran out and my son again, he's
six ft six, he might have been six foot four.
Then he's grown a bit lately. But and I'm dragging
him in on a float. He's on a floating. He's like,
just like he's on a calm water on a floating
and I'm dragging him in because what are you doing?
I said, I'm bringing you to safety and we're in
like we're in like waste deep water and he's like,
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what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (45:49):
And nothing?
Speaker 2 (45:50):
Just don't just don't go back out there. Apparently didn't
have any idea. They didn't know that I was stoning.
My wife knew, and she's like, you're an idiot, And
I went back to hotel. Then I said I'm stoned,
and she said.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
I know, I know you wear my underpants as well.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I didn't get it. I went back went to bed
and I didn't get up for the footy that night.
So I bet my son's like, why is't Dad getting
up towards the footy?
Speaker 5 (46:15):
He loves the footy? No, yea was that was?
Speaker 3 (46:18):
That was bad?
Speaker 1 (46:18):
So anyway, she's a patient woman.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
What did you do with the rest of the gummies?
Speaker 2 (46:22):
You know? I sat there and I'm like, I can't
have any more, and so I didn't have any more
on the trip, and I put them.
Speaker 3 (46:28):
In the bin. I did traumatize.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I put them in the bin. No, I've been back
on him since.
Speaker 5 (46:32):
Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
I do have to give you a very big compliment,
CUsing because after the jungle top five, I think it
was top five, we all staid at a lodge.
Speaker 2 (46:44):
Now it was top eight mate. I was eight down,
I honestly because you obviously top three, but I was.
I was when we was leaving the jungle because I
got evicted and I was shocked. I got a victored.
I thought me, Maddie thought I was going to win. Well,
he told me that win.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
I thought you were going to win anyway.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
So whatever, I got evicted and I was annoyed, but
I thought it was all rigged and that storyboarded and
I would be in the final three whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
But that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
And as I'm coming out, I'm like, well, at least
my wife and family won't have to come over, because
as Maddie knows, it was a stress for busy people.
My wife had started her school year and you know,
a trip to Africa is not as valuable for some
people as his for others.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Whatever. That's the way.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
I only ended up in South Africa because it was like, hey, yeah,
can you help me get South Africa with these two kids?
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And I was like yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (47:32):
And then my wife's like, you don't go to South
Africa made for like two days.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
So yeah, with three kids, it's a stress to get
over there. So so when I'm coming out, so or
at least my wife I had to come over, and
they producer about that and I said, what, she's there
on the plane now.
Speaker 5 (47:47):
I was like, oh shit, So they hadn't.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Landed in Perth like Melbourne Perth Joe Berg and I said,
get it. I've got to get her on the phone
because she might want to turn around. Because anyway, my
daughters wanted to come, but my son wanted to go
back and plays red basketball. He didn't care about. But anyway,
they came over. That was eight So for whatever reason,
they we had eight families. That was actually lovely in
the little where we were staying in the lotch. It
was a beauty of your family and all the other families.
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It was great, and you were there toly, so you
didn't get to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Didn't get to enjoy it. But I do remember one
standout for me was the fact that everyone's there with
their kids, and your kids and teenagers are little assholes
most of the time. Like there's a little cafe down
the road where I get a coffee from, and it's
next to a school, and it's sometimes in the afternoon's
full of school kids.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
They tease him.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
Yeah, and they suck with your kids, Like, I don't know,
if they were just being on their absolute best behavior,
they would look you in the eye, say good morning,
ask you what are you up to today. They'd have
a conversation. Yeah, And you don't often get that from
teenage kids. So I got to say, well done.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, credit to my wife more than me obviously, but
yeah they are, yeah, they're they're good and they and
they'll play with the little kids as well. So you're yeah,
they love playing with your daughters and yeah, I got
two daughters who are bloody.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
Yeah, they're good kids. And my son's good as well.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I also have to just say, as well, compliment.
Speaker 3 (49:04):
For the kids.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
But at the airport, you really stitched me up. Yeah,
big time.
Speaker 3 (49:08):
I haven't heard this well.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I was trying to get a business upgrade. Oh yeah, okay,
you do love it business.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
It's his Achilles eight kilos in the jungle.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
We really lost a friendship over it because when we
went to Vegas and there's only one seat and I'm like, oh,
I don't worry, He's like, sorry.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
You're painting me in.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
He wanted to leave you for that fourteen hours or
whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (49:34):
Yeah, yeah, And so I was trying to get an upgrade.
Couldn't happen. We're at joe Berg Airport, Johannesburg with those
playing at home, and I was on the phone to
the flight agent and he was trying hard to get
me an upgrade. It wasn't going to happen. And as
I was on the phone, like pleading desperate for an upgrade,
Laura was talking to you, and I didn't know. The
conversation was along the lines of you had said to Laura,
(49:56):
there is no way on earth I'm going to sit
in that business seat for a second. It's going to
go to my wife. Yeah, okay. And then after that conversation,
I then hang up the phone. I go to Laura
and I say, there's been no business class upgrade. I'm
really sorry. You're going to be in premium. Also didn't
know that she was pregnant at the time. Yeah, right,
(50:19):
And so when I walked her to her seat in premium,
she was. It was We had a big argument. Yeah,
a big argument.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Yeah, I know, I know it wasn't just you, ors
that the others as well. I guilted Zach into it
as well, and I think Sam Thriday as well. So yeah,
so Zach to in Sam Friday. You know, throw who
are just going to go and business and leave their
partners and kids in economy. But you know what, I
(50:47):
luckily there was some luck. We were able to get
pretty cheap business upgrades. For everyone, and they did as well.
So all those guys paid for their partners to be
in business worth making, honestly. And I'm and my wife's
a mart and she would have let me go in business. Honestly,
she would have let me.
Speaker 5 (51:07):
But I knew I would. It would have been in
the back of it was something.
Speaker 2 (51:09):
There's points that you get deducted, and they would have
been deducted forever.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
I would I would have just sat in the business
class seat and not spoken to them the whole time.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
No, I can't, No, I'm I'm playing a long game, man.
Speaker 1 (51:21):
Thank you for that.
Speaker 4 (51:22):
It was very contentious when he got back and that
story and then people piling.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
Still gon attack now, and when Laura announced that she
was pregnant, that everyone's now coming back for a second attack,
being like.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
And she was, you know, I appreciate you doing that.
I appreciate you being honest in that way. And you know,
you know, what's great content and people love to have
their opinion, so well, good on you for being honest
enough to say that you're a selfish asshole.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
Excuse me. One final question that we always end on
for the podcast episodes, When your three children are old
enough to fly the nest. They're no longer living with you.
What is the one thing you would want them to
remember about the house they grew up in.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
That.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I'm big on don't take life seriously. I'm big on
laugh your way through life. So that's my don't and
I say to them all the time, which I read,
but I believe it to be true. There's been studies
done and the people who think about themselves the least
of the happiest people. So stop thinking about yourself and
just and I say this almost every day I'm dram
(52:25):
to school. Look at the sun. And I sit in
the jungle as well. Look at the sun. We're on
a planet.
Speaker 3 (52:31):
This is weird.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
The chances of us ever being here are so astronomical.
Speaker 5 (52:36):
Just you know, be happy you're alive.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
I really want them just to go through life with
that attitude.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
So yeah, very good.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I love Ituse It's been an absolute pleasure. Lovely to
see you again.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
We've got to keep in touch, all right. So you
went to the Grand Prix, you didn't You didn't ring me?
Speaker 5 (52:53):
Man, what do you ring me? He's going to Grand Prix?
Speaker 1 (52:56):
You know? Handing hours again to catch up with him
to down there.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
I was meant to catch up with him.
Speaker 1 (53:03):
Down there, and he reads me the night before and
he goes.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I'm going home.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
You can say what about me.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
I've come down like you. I had a few people, but.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
I was like, I'm really gonna I'll get up and.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
Laura and the girls and then hugh'sy loved to meet you.
Thank you for coming in. It's your pleasure. It's been
a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Enjoy.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
Two Doting Dads. Podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country
throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
We pay our respects to their elders past and present
and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Straight
Island of people's today
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