September 7, 2025 • 53 mins
Tayla Montoya is an Italian mum from "The Area" who happens to be married to a Bulldogs football player, Marcello.
After a whirlwind pregnancy, Tayla and Marc welcomed their twin girls, Tiana and Milan, almost a year ago.
But before the girls entered the world, mum would have to go through a type of miscarriage that only 1 out of every 1000 women experience.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ash, I think you're gonna love this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I love every episode.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I don't know what you're talking about, but you love NRL,
and this is a love story that has come from
the world of NRL.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Yes, I'm not going to say it's between a cheerleader
and an NRL player, because that would be off limits.
Matthew is a cheerleader and an under twenties player, which
I don't know how makes a difference.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's us perfectly fine.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
This episode is with Taylor Montoya, beautiful name, and she's
married to Marcelo Montoya, who plays with the Bulldogs currently,
who is a try scoring machine.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Matthew.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
She is Italian background, he is Fiji, And yes she
was a cheerleader. Yes he plays NRL. But this is
a match made in heaven.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yes, we talk about all things. Growing up in the area,
also having twins.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Growing up in what area? That's what they call the
Area's what's the area?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Ash, Oh my god, in the area.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What's the area?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And you want to say that, or you wanted to
say they talk about the area?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Take her a.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Different again, I guess, but no.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
One's going to get that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, everyone knows the area.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What's the area?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Anyway, Yes, we talk all things love, rugby league, cheerleading,
and twins and the area I don't like being more.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Her road to motherhood wasn't without its hiccups. She did
feel pregnant, which sadly did end in a miscarriage, but
the story does have a beautiful ending because she has
welcomed too beautiful twins. Just quickly, before we get into
the episode, I spotted Taylor on a footy show on
Fox and she was hilarious doing an interview with her partner,
and I thought, we have to get her on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So this one is going to be a lot of fun.
She is hilarious.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Strap yourself in, listen do it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mom.
I am Maddie, Jay.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I'm Ash, I'm Taylor.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
it is.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
The bad and the relatable and Tay Taylor Tane.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Yeah yeah, sal friends here, we don't give advice, but
you're more than welcome to I guess you're.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Is this the first mother of twins? This is?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And also I have to apologize because you've been sitting here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Fuck for half an hour. Literally, I honestly, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Will all share the responsibility?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
No, I love it.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
This is like a holiday for me, guys, So take
your time.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We were just talking about being in the car on
the way anywhere without the kid.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's better than the same.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Yeah, literally, especially now, Yeah, because you can be.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like, you know, I'm gonna do you turn the rounding off.
We'll see her in silence.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You can, but we're taking away from like alone time
for take because she's just been sitting here as we've been.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like the last oh god, apologies, no plea.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And we do like to start these episodes with our
guests by asking them a question about their childhood, and
we want to know, what's the most trouble you ever
got in as a child slash teenager?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
M I was. I was like a pretty chill kid.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I don't believe that for a.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yeah, Like to be honest, well, probably like around year nine,
year ten is when I kind of was like, oh cool, Yeah,
so that was when I probably started getting grounded. The
first time would have been a New Year's Eve party
in the area. It was a boy's house from high
school and my mom was like, you can go, but
there's parents, right, and I was like, yeah, obviously, like
(03:50):
who would leave a bunch of fourteen year olds by
themselves on?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
And then so I went to this New Year's Eve party.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
We call them gatheros in the Shire. It would be
like a bonfire in some random guy's backyard and then
you just sit around, yeah, like a townhouse.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah it's summer.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
And then like the whole week, people be like you're
going to go to the gather this weekond and like, yeah,
I'm going to the gather.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
And then so I went watched the fireworks there, a
bit of underage drinking was going on.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
It's a very big in and I thought everything went well.
I thought I came home unscathed. And then turns out
the boy that had the party, his older brother, was
in the same year as my older brother, and they
got talking one day and then my brother snitched.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
And goes to you know there was parents are that much?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
And then so my mom played the long game and
came up to me that day and was like, so,
is there anything you want to tell me? And I
was like like no, Like I hadn't really.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Good time any inkling that she.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Knew because I thought my brother always had my back
as well, it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Was such a loaded question too, is Matthew, is there
anything that you want to tell me?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Literally?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And I'm like god like and like this is going
to sound really harsh to myself, but I was one
of those girls at high school with all the boys
like don't want it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I was like, I was like, so, I was.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
Like, look at me.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I didn't get with anyone at the gather. I was like,
it wouldn't have been that. And then she was like, well,
I've heard there was no parents and I was like
there were, And then like what made it worse was
I doubled down and told her stories where I was
like they ordered us pizza the parents literally and she
was like I'm going to give you like five seconds
now to just confess. And I was like, okay, there's
(05:44):
no parents, and she was like you grounded for the
rest of summer holidays. So then like for the rest
of the school holidays, I had to make up excuses,
why do you want to hang out with my friends?
Like my friends didn't come from a strict parent Like
I'm like, my background's Italians, my mom dad are pretty
street and the like. All my friends didn't really like
parents were pretty chill, So every time I got an invite,
(06:06):
I was like, oh, no, like that sounds pretty lame.
I'm going to watch Jersey.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Literally, in the last few months gad to gather.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Yeah, I love how like like back like then, parents
were so patient to play the longer.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, my kids.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And I'm like, seriously now already like thinking about obviously
my girls are only nine months old. But if I
was to think of that them in that situation, mate,
I would have me going at them. I'd call my mom,
I'd call my husband.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
You are never leaving the house again, I did it?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Did you get your brother back at all?
Speaker 6 (06:46):
I like literally was like, what the hell was that about?
And he's like, well, I don't like those group of
people you're hanging out with.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So maybe he saved you.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Actually yeah maybe actually, but yeah, and look like, to
be honest, I don't hang out with those people anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So there you go. Yeah, yeah, long Bay, there at
a big gathero in prison.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
All together.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm actually interested to know how does someone get into cheerleading?
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
So I grew up dancing my whole life, and I
always aspired to be a Dallas Cowboy's chileader. That was
end game for me. And then probably around fifteen years old,
I realized I don't have the flexibility that's going to
get me there, but I'll kind of aim for the
NROL and see how Yeah, and I don't want to
(07:38):
talk about my brother again, but pretty much, he was
at a gavo and there was a Bulldogs cheerleader at
the party and he goes, what does my sister have
to do to get in the squad? And the chillier
at the time goes, we actually got auditions this week,
like if she's keen. So I went to the audition,
got in. I was eighteen at the time.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah, and I got in, and then yeah, the rest
was history.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Kind of what was audition like?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
It was pretty chill at the time, like nothing like
the Dallas Cabos chierleaders. I'm like, god, like, have you
guys watched that show? Yeah? Yeah, it's crazy, like more
than what an NFL player would have to do. So yeah,
I just kind of got in and then did that
for three years, but two years in I decided to
fratnize with the player.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
So yeah, so I've heard.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Can I ask is there any attraction to the world
of cheerleading because of the connection to the players.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
I would say for me personally, yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
I.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Don't want to talk on behalf of other cheerleaders who
were there to do it because they're so talented.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And that was their dreams around it.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
There are there absolutely are.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Do they say, hey, do not do not look at
the players.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah. So like at the time, I don't know what
it's like now, but because I was ten years ago now,
in the contract that you signed, it's like not fragnizing
with players. And I was like, well, that's fine because
when I met Marcello, he wasn't an n RL player,
was under twenties.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I was like, that's fine, Like, if anything, they'll appreciate.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So it's actually the like NRL players off limits. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Yeah, it's kind of weird, right because my parents met
at work, so they do Quantus.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Who was the pilot, Where did.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You guys meet you and myself?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yeah, So I would see him around like in the
sheds and stuff, and I always thought like the first
time I saw him, I was like, holy ship, they
did not make men like that in the ship. I've
never seen someone like tall, dark and handsome like that.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I don't know, he just like to be by surprise.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And the gather, but he kind of gives off really
resting bitch face. So I was like, okay, like he's
kind of rude, and I was like whatever, I'm not interested.
And then the club at the time holds a dinner
where the cheerleaders have dinner with the under twenties players.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
I was going to say, going to say, you have
dinner with the dinner wat you just said.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
We can't frightenize, and now you're putting us.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
On speed dating literally, and it's like the purpose is
to like have an etiquette dinner, and it's kind of
like you like kind of have conversations and teach the
boys and the girls kind of how to have etiquette.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you do it in the room.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
And I remember seeing him there and like he was
talking to my friend and he was kind of like
not giving me too much, So I was like, well,
stuff him. But then he followed me on Instagram later
that day, yeah, and I was like, okay, maybe he
kind of did see something in me. And once the
facilit but nothing happened, and then we ran into each
other at Cargo Bar.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, and then you know, sparks flew from there.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It was it's no longer around cargo bus.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, it's just more there's more food there now. Yeah,
but less drives more food.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It's a well known night clif anyone outside of the city, well,
no night class.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, there was a couple of story story high.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
It was unreal back in the day, I'm pretty sure.
Like now, I think they just celebrated their like twenty
fifth birthday or something. I don't know why I know that,
but yeah, it looks it looks like we have a
gone that's kind of not our vibe anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
But yeah, and then was it your first day at
hogs bread correct?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Yeah, so he is wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I go hogs Breadth.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
We're very classy. So he at the time was living
in Liverpool and I was in Krenulla. So I thought
it was big props to him that he was like, oh,
come out to you, I'll come pick you up. And
I know that's kind of people probably listen going that's
that should be standard.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Back then, I was like this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yeah, And so he pulled up at my house and
I was about to leave and my mum was like,
where the hell do you think you're going. I was like, oh,
like bread, Yeah, that's the boy. There's a boy out
here waiting for me. And she's like, oh, like, you know,
he should really come to the door. And I was
like I'm not going to fucking make him come to
the door, mum, and I just left, bolted, got in
his car and suddenly this smell just hit me and
(12:16):
I was like holy shit. And he had that.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Black ice air freshener.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
And I never smelled that before, and I was like,
holy crap, this guy has like game, I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's like the equivalent of Leaks Africa literally.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Literally, and I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
And then from that moment, I'm like it was just
a dream that date, like Hoggs Bread, curly Fries. Oh.
They still have definitely not in Crenella anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Not Inna.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
They're still around in Brisbane. I think they're still doing
well in Brisbane. But yeah, damn shame hard to get traction.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I went to one in Dubbo Ones It was terrible, shame.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Sorry he still existing, but remember all the old ads
and stuff like that, Like it was just like similar
to Sizzlovie.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, Miss Siler.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's another story.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Do you remember the moment that Marcello proposed to you?
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I do.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
So I had been begging him for a proposal for
a while because we were together from the moment I
was eighteen, he was nineteen, and then like we were
coming up to like twenty five years old and still
nothing had happened, and all our friends were getting engaged.
I know you shouldn't compare, but it's hard not to
do an your bloody bridesmaids freaking five times a year.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Yeah, And so he was like to.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Me, I was I was graduating from my degree at
the time, so my mum had organized this big family
dinner and he was like, I'm going to take you
to a hotel before the dinner to.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Celebrate your graduation. I was like, okay, cool before dinner.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I was like I didn't even think much of it,
and like the I was increneal and he took me
the four Seasons in the city.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
I was like, this is.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
And my mom I don't know why, but she thought
I was kind of getting suspicious. So she took me
for a walk one day and was like, you know,
like Marcella's graduation present it's pretty huge.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
It's not like you've been dreaming of. And I was like,
oh my god, yeah, you got your French bulldog.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
And I was like, did you want that idea? But yeah,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Ye, I hear all the issues on Jesus Christ uninsurable. Yeah,
but I was like really and she's like yeah, Like
don't don't let him know that I told you, But yeah,
you got a French And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
She's like I get what she's doing, but it's an
interesting setup. She's taking you on a different path.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah. I wasn't suspicious though, so I was like, I
don't understand why she needed to do that, but yeah,
it seems to.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Be like why are you telling you?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Don't worry? I got you.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Please start. So he took me to this hotel and
like he was like, oh, we'll take you up to
the room, but I'm going to blindfold and I was like, well,
obviously because there's a French so many questions, but blindfolded
me opened the door and then there was music playing
our favorite song at the time, and then what so
(15:22):
freagain Forever Love by God. I'm not going to pronounce
your name correctly. It's a new KEYWI singer can singer.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
So he under the blindfold and then yet said will
you marry me? In balloons on the window? And then
I was like, oh my god, yes, and I'm looking around.
I was like, where's the door and he was like
like look, dog, and I was like, mom said you
got me French ballot on. He's like, you want to
fucking ring and the French boll was like fifteen.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
K and it's uninsurable.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
And then and he was like what would your mom
tell you that? And I was like I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
And then he's like what fuck.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
I'm happy, but like okay.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Dog, And then yeah, so that was the that was
the proposal.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And and then you had to go to the family
dinner afterwards.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, that was the reason for the hotel before exactly
done that, yeah, in traffic.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And I think he knows like I because he originally
said I'll do it in front of all her family
at the dinner. And then I was like, if that
is ever a thing, do not fucking do it in
front of my family, Like I just it would be
a whole thing with them and his family, and it's
just like a lot.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Yeah, it's like we were talking about if someone sings
me happy birthday in public, that is why he literally
if was like back in the day, or you can
only propose me in front of my family, I'll be like, well.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Sawyer absolutely like.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Credits to people who do it at restaurants.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, another credit, do it somewhere.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Else between you and Marcelo, who was the person who
started talking about having a family.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
First, Yeah, definitely Marcello's Yeah, so like again the big
Fiji and background, he's kind of always wanted to have kids,
probably earlier than later, and because we were together from
the age of eighteen, he was probably like I don't know,
like twenty two and ready, but he was very Yeah,
he was very respectable.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I'm respectful so for my career and kind of where
I was.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I was not ready at twenty two. I'm barely ready now.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Does he have a lot of siblings and he does, He's.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
One of four, and then he's got mate that many cousins,
Like I can't keep up, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
You go to Fiji mentioned his name, I will do that.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
So yeah, he was like not pastoring me, but he's
always wanted that and i'd be like, hold your horses,
like because in NRL as well, there it's kind of different,
like they peak in this incredible career that they've dreamed
of and work so hard for so.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Early on, whereas for other people.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Like in your twenties, you're just getting started and you've
got to kind of work your way up the ladder
and make your name literally literally. So I was like,
I don't want to do that. That would be so
hard for me to get back in the workplace. And
so yeah, he was very respective, unrespectful, and yeah, eventually
we got there in the end. Anyway, So I was
trying to fall pregnant, so we'd like kind of bits
(18:41):
and pieces. So I was on the pill for ten
years and I'd heard my whole life that's going to
stuff you up really bad. So as soon as we
got married, I got off it, not to necessarily start trying,
but just to kind of like learn my body again
because you don't realize what the pill does to you.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Like this is going to sound so crazy, but tell us.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Coming off the pill, I was like, oh my god,
I don't remember feeling happy in ten years now, Like.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
It gets to that, like it's it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
It's a weird feeling, especially for.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like young man.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
We don't at that age, like even now, I'm only
learning about all this yeah, and all the different variations
and all the different things that it can potentially do
to the female boy, but he would have had any
idea what that was.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
And then so when I came off the pill, suddenly,
like I dropped all this weight because you hold onto
a lot of water, and I was happier, like less tired,
and he's like, holy crap, like this is like the
real you know.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I was like, yeah, like if you love me, then.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
So I got off it and then we were married
for two years at the time, and went for an
off season trip to Hawaii and then I don't know,
one drunken night in Hawaii, like fell pregnant luckily, and
then but unfortunately that pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. Yeah,
thank you. So it was kind of like a weird, weird,
(20:00):
very rare pregnancy. So two sperms went in the one egg.
So it was a partial mol of pregnancy, Okay, And
you don't really like I'm lucky in a way that
normally when you have a miscarriage, there's a lot that
doctors can't tell you what happened, Like you'll get a
generic answer like oh, this is very common, like one
(20:21):
in four women have it, and you're like kind of like, well,
that kind of doesn't help me sleep at nights because
I'm like, hey, how do I avoid this?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Like what the fuck?
Speaker 6 (20:28):
But luckily, luckily for me, I got the surgery to
remove the tissue and they were able to test it
and find out that two sperms entered the one egg.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So when you had your miscarriage, what test did they
do to find that out?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
So when I got it's called like this DNC, So
they remove the tissue or unsuccessful embryo I guess, and
they take that off to a lab and test it
and that's how they found out.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
So it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
So okay, if, for example, and this is excuse my ignorance,
if there was no miscarriage and you continued on that pregnancy,
and how is there a stagelong there that you would
ever have known that you had or was that the
like I mean like I'm.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Trying to figure yeah, Like it's honestly, I'd never heard about.
So it happens in one percent of pregnancy, so it's
extremely rare.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It is rare.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I think it's like one in twelve hundred pregnancies. Like, so,
what happens is the chromosome. It's got to triple the
amount of chromosomes as to what needed pretty much.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
But the weird thing about it is once they remove it.
So when I found out, I got a call from
the gynecologists on Christmas Day, and I was like, why
is this guy calling me?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Because I had kind of what kind of gynocologist Christmas for.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
All I knew at the time was Okay, I was pregnant,
and at ten weeks I went for an ultrasound and
the heart wasn't beating, so they removed it. That's all
I thought. I thought I'd never find out answers. I
thought they'd be like, it was just a miscarriage whatever.
And then so when I got a call on Christmas Day,
he was like, okay, so yours is a bit different.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
It's a partial mole of pregnancy.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Two sperms went in the one egg, so I'm going
to need you to do all these things to me.
And I was like, oh my god, Like I'm kind
of just still dealing with the fact that I've had
a miscarriage, Like what do you mean and he's like,
so pretty much because it's formed an abnormal cyst is
pretty much what they called it. It can continue to
grow if all of it wasn't removed, and to like
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get rid of it, you need chemotherapy.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
And I was like, holy shit, what do you mean,
Like like I'm trying to deal with Christmas lunch and
I was like I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
I'm asking all these questions and he's like, sent me
this article treat He's like, this article will explain it
better than I can, because he's like it's just such
a rare thing.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Trap your head around.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So then, pretty much from that phone call, as soon
as labs opened up again, I had to go for
weekly blood tests to make sure my hCG was lowering,
because if it wasn't, then would show my body would
still think I was pregnant and growing this abnormal tissue
and then would have to go through chemotherapy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, At the same time as dealing with all of that,
for people who haven't had a miscarriage or experience that
situation with their partner, there's a real emotional whiplash because
you going, oh my God, I'm pregnant. Yeah, quickly going okay,
well this life I was imagining is now completely taken away.
How did you deal with the emotions of finding out
you had a miscarriage?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Oh, Like, honestly, like you said, we weren't those people
that thought we're going to wait till twelve weeks to
tell people I'm pregnant, like the test said, like so
why why wait? So we were telling my family, his family,
like my close friends, and you get wrapped up in
that excitement because it's a beautiful thing. Everyone's excited for you,
and you want to be You want to share that
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enjoyment with people, and then to then yeah, miscarry and
then go through that. So at the time, we're in
New Zealand, just me and my husband, no family around
there or from Sydney. So I guess in a way
we really leaned on each other. And like, I know
he wouldn't mind me saying this, but he probably struggled a.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Bit more than I did.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I think because it's my body and I kind of
can grasp what's happening a bit more, whereas like the male,
like you've contributed to this thing, but you're removed from it.
So but it's like, but hang on, so like was
it real like kind of thing. So he kind of
tackled a bit more than me, but we were just
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there for each other and really leaned on each other.
And honestly, like this is gonna sound weird, but like
a dog, like the amount of happiness that dog brought
me because my husband was during pre season, so he's
still going to work every day and I had no
family around, so be me and my sausage dog, and
like I'd be crying on the couch watching bloody Vanda
punt rules and then heat out of nowhere like fart
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and I just like.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Laugh like things like that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm to go through that.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, thank you, But yeah, it must be isolating to
being in a different country.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And there's there's players over there in the team. Yeah
they have partis and stuff, but they're not you. They're
not your yeah yeah your.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Group, yeah exactly.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, they're not at the gather and.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Like there's only so much, like your mom can be
there for you over FaceTime as well, Like my mom
and dad would FaceTime me like every two hours, pretty
much knowing that Muscella was at work all day.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
There's something about being overseas and away from your family
that just heighten every emotion. I can't imagine experiencing something
like a miscarriagter.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, full on.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
We've spoken to people that have had miscarriages before and
the anxiety going into it again.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
How long after the after you found out, you decide,
to lack of a better term, get back on the horse.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Yeah. Well literally, Like I've got an obsessive personality, so
to be pregnant and then have it taken away from you.
I went from being like, oh, kids, it'll happen when
it happened, to them being like no, fuck this, Like
I just had that, like.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
I want it, like I want I want it back.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
But our obstetrition because of the type of miscarriage I had,
was like, it's not advised to start trying within six
months to a year because there's a higher chance of
complications now. And I was like, yeah, that's fine. So
I was like, what can I do to control this
situation if I can, So I went to naturopaths and acupuncture,
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and because my cycle TM, I sorry, guys, my cycle
went from being like perfect to then getting this miscarriage.
So then going to like forty days, and I was like,
well that's not healthy, Like what's going on with me?
So I was just stress, stress stress. I went on
all whole foods diet, which I'd love a bit of
that now because I'd love that determination because now you
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should see what I eat. But so I kind of
just tried to control things like that, but got quite obsessive.
So then the minute I kind of was like, you're
being an idiot, now just and relaxed.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Then I felt pregnant again. Naturally.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
God.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I miscarried in November. I fell in March.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Yeah, And I remember ringing my obstecution.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He was like, I.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Said, and he was like really And I was like
well yeah, And he's like, okay, we're gonna have to
get a blood test immediately and then bring you in
for a scan to make sure it's not that same tissue.
Like and I was like, fuck me, dad, nothing's ever straightforward,
Like I was like, let me just enjoy this moment.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
But yeah, so like four or five months later, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Wow, And so how do you find out what was
this situation where you I told the news that you
were carrying twins?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
It was crazy, man, so at the time, Marcello had
just flown back to Sydney to think they were versing
dragons or something. So I was home by myself in
New Zealand and I told my mom I was pregnant.
I was like, well, I'm going for the first scan
at six weeks because my HGG is really high. So
they kind of worried and she was like, okay, cool.
Didn't say anything. The day before the skin, some people
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knock at my door and I'm like, I don't answer doors,
especially wh myles. It's not home. I just no one
come see me. So I'm like sitting like watching the
Telly for ten minutes and these people are knocking, knocking, knocking,
and I'm like, oh my god, they're persistent. And I
opened the door.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Literally a phone call when someone knocks on our door
and I'm not home.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Someone at the door like, yeah, that's exactly like me.
So yeah, finally open the dawns and my mom, my
mom and dad. So they had surprised me to be
with me.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Door away get the fu.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
So they had surprised me to come to the scan
with me just in case. Yeah yeah. And then so
we went to the scan and my dad was like, oh,
wait outside. I was like, that's a great idea because
this early on, they'll go internal. So you went outside
and so me and mom in the chair and they
went over the stomach at first, and she's like, oh,
great news, like there's the heartbeat. I was like, oh
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my god, unreal because I never got to experience that
the first time. So I was like, amazing, I'm on
like cloud nine. My mom's crying. She's like, wow, a miracle.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Amazing it is.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Yeah, and so early on too, because that's six weeks.
I was not. I thought it would just be like
adult like the first time. And then so she was like,
but I just want to take a closer look, you know,
given your history. So yeah, yeah, literally said.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
She's like, go, I'm to your bladder and come back in.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
And then immediately, like my mom's body language sunk, I sunk.
And then I come back and then get on the
table and then she like goes internally and she's like, okay, yep,
so I just want to confirm there is the heartbeat.
So we're all good there and I was like unreal,
and she's like, but I just want to draw your
attention to this area and I was like yeah, and
like I don't know what I'm looking at it. And
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then she's like, so heartbeat one and then you'll just
see there's another heartbeat here. And literally before I could
say anything, my mom's like, I'm.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Like, holy shit, so come down, my bloody won't. And
I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (30:14):
And she's like, you're having twins, honey, And I was like,
oh man, what And.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
The lady doing the skin was a twin mom herself.
So I was like, that is like destiny.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Because I said to her without thinking, I'm gonna need
a bigger fucking card. She's like, no, honey, I had
twins in a yarras your and then so like from
that moment on, she was able to tell me they
were identical twins. I don't know how, but she could
see there was only one placenta, so that confirms it's identical.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's the question I had about the twins.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
So one placenta, but you can have two if they're
not identical.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yes, So fraternal is two placentas, like each baby gets
their own placenta, which is luxury. And then in my
case there was one placenta, two sacks. So the way
she said to me was they're in the same house,
own bedroom, same bathroom.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
I was like, okay.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
So from that point on, like my mom's just a mess,
like a combination of happy tears and like what the fuck.
And then we walk out of the room and my
dad looks at me and he sees my mom's face.
He's like a ghost, bawling her eyes down. So he's like,
oh my god, like what's happened. I was like, I'm
having twins. And he's like, fuck you, Taylor. You never
take serious.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
We have a very dark humor now fairly.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
And I was like, Dad, I'm having twins, and he's like,
I can't take you seriously.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
He's such a bullshitter.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
And and then he looks at my mom and she's
like she's had fucking and he's like yes, and everyone's
looking at me. In New Zealand as well. People are
very in.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
The New Zealand medical practice. There's three going off there.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Literally everyone's like okay, so yeah, And then like the
ride home, I was like to mom, We're gonna have
to FaceTime Marcelo, like I can't keep this from him.
They had just lost so he was in a really
crazy meeting like with the coach and all that, and
they were kind of I think getting like the review. Yeah,
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and then so he ran out and he didn't look
very happy, and I was like, he was like, how
did it all go? And I was like yeah, fine,
and he's like, oh cool, and I was like, yes,
so we're having twins and he was like, you're fucking
kidding and I was like, no, we're having twins. He's like,
I'm gonna have to start playing Origin.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Was a money mask.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
We're going to need some forward.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
But then so yeah, kind of just from that point on,
because they were identical twins, I got the rundown straight away,
fortnightly scans from pretty much six weeks to full term.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Was the birth straightforward?
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Yeah, straightforward as I could imagine twins. So the plan
originally was to have the babies in New Zealand because
my husband was contracted for the Warriors for a few
more years. So like met with this beautiful obstetricia. He
was pretty set on having a C section, and I
kind of didn't really know much about either, so I
was like, whatever safest, I don't really care. And then
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as my pregnancy progressed, everything was looking fine, and then
Mussello ended up signing a deal with a club in
Sydney when I was thirty two weeks pregnant with twins,
which is great, it is great to come home to family,
but not great in the fact that I was like,
not really no, so.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, as soon as you said that I was.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Threshold with high risk twins, like yeah, So when I
got told that, I was like to my obstetrition hey mate,
thanks for your help, like all this pregnancy, but I'm
a dip. Yeah, keep the money. Like literally, I was like,
please give me medical clearance. So he did one last
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scan on me and he was like it's fine, it's
a three hour flight. Granted me medical clearance and then
I was like soon as we landed, like, let's find
someone to deliver my babies. And found this amazing obstetrician
in Cogra who was like, if you want to do
this vaginally, like I got you, let's do it. And
I was like, shit, yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Does she got.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Somefore I'm action up there out but I was like,
because I was like to mussel I don't want to
not drive for six weeks after Like their job is
like so intense, like they're never home rightly, so they're
always training or traveling. And the time that I was
due was right in the heart of pre season, and
for like the NRL season, pre season is like the
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most intense.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
They're like out of the house by five am, home
by seven. It's like the wildest thing. So I was like,
I need to be able to drive, like just doctor's.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Appointments things like that. So I was like, if I can, like,
let's just do it. And then yeah, I didn't really
think about that choice until I was in the birthing suite,
couldn't sleep and had one woman.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Push out one and I was like, I gotta fucking
do this.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Twice I was like, like, it's too late, But yeah,
it ended up working out well. Section no vaginally going
through thank you, Yeah, come.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
On, sorry sorry. I was like I was expecting.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Anyway I could drive six weeks no, So yeah, that
whole ordeal was God, it felt like a lifetime.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
But they were born eight minutes apart, So you mentioned, yeah,
is that quick?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I think, so, yeah, I wonder how long it can
actually get.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, well, I think if it gets too long with twins,
they will put you into an emergency Caesar because there was.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
He did give me the rundown.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
You might be able to give birth vaginally for the
first one, twin a, and then we might cut you
open for twin Ben.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Want the bigger one to come first, yeah, and she didn't.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
The smaller one came first, head first, and then the
second one came legs first and bigger.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Going on.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Yeah. I mentioned before that they were PREMI yeah weeks
so quite lucky to be honest, thirty six weeks so
pretty good. I was told because there was such a
high risk identical more high risk because there's this thing
called like one placenta. There's like, what could happen is
the placenta starts to favor one baby, and then that's
why you have to go for routine scans because the
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minute the growth starts to get kind of big, they're like, okay,
the placenta's only kind of feeding one baby. Like we
need to induce you now, like people have had identical
twins at like twenty eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Wow, yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I suppose like, yeah, the one just mal nurish. You
don't want exactly I want that? And do they have
to spend some time in Nico?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Yeah? Yeah, So they thought they were a lot bigger
than what they actually were. So when they were.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Born, did that before or after?
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah? Well literally, like my whole pregnancy, they're like they're
They're right up there with singular babies. I'm like, oh
my god, I'm doing so well, like for someone with
low iron.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I'm like, And then.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
When they were born, we were guessing, like the nurses
like guess, like they only have to be over two
point five to avoid specially, ok And I was like,
that was not like four weeks ago. And then twin
one ended up being born at one point eight and
Milan at two point two, So like it went from
like riding high to like, Okay, they're going to spend
quite a while in special care. It ended up being
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three four weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, and you go back and forth.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Is that how it works? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Kind of. So for the first week they wanted me
around like in the hospital like for your milk supply
and bonding and stuff. But I mean bonding in the kniku.
It's not the nicest there, Like it's.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Like the bubble Boy and sign film.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Literally literally I wasn't allowed to touch them for about
two days and then after that they that's hard it's
so hard, and like I would even like sneak because
they were in like like an incubator. I guess their
legs I could touch, so when the nerve, like the
midwife will by like touch their little leg and then
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the heart rate would like like go crazy, would yeah,
So then the midwife would come over and be like, look,
I know you think you've got the magic time, but
we really can't be touched on the heart. And I
was like, oh my god, like that's what it felt
like and it's really dark room.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And then what's that first hold line?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Got I was lucky enough to get the first hold
after giving birth. They gave me skin to skin, so
but to be honest, like it's an outer body experience.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
In the moment, you don't really remember. I don't remember
it now.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
So the special care though it was it was beautiful
but terrifying because they were tiny, like when I'm like
the size of my really yeah, not much bigger. Like
I've even got this photo and I'm holding both of
them and I'm covering them pretty much like it's just
their head.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
It's crazy.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
So that like I was trying to be delicate I'm
not a delicate person. As you can see, my hands
are going ever literally and I'm like and I like,
my babies were pretty much the first babies I really
ever hearld And then you're kind of trying to not
look awkward in front of these midwives because you're like,
oh my god, they're going to think I'm like not
capable of me.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
And then like, yeah, it was surreal, really surreal.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So small.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I'm trying to think back to when I had Marley,
my first child, and I don't think anything can really
prepare you for the newborn face. Yeah, you can kind
of see little snippets of your friends and other family
who've got a newborn.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You can read the books.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I didn't read your books, but until you're in the trenches, nothing,
why I prepares you for it.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
And then you've got two of them?
Speaker 6 (39:57):
What is that like?
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Same as you.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
It didn't hit me until that first night I gave birth.
So the babies went away to special care. I got
taken back up to the maternity ward and I was
just in a public hospital. So I'm sharing with like
four other mothers some globe literally, so like some mothers
have their newborn babies with them. Some are going into
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labor the next day, like and I'm just here. No
baby's in my stomach, no baby's by my bed, but
I can hear babies crying, and I'm and like Marcella
had to go home because he had worked the next
day at five am. So I was like literally on
the bed and it all hit me and I just
burst into tears, and I was like, you should have
read a fucking book, you idiot. Like the whole time
you're pregnant with twins, especially people like how are you
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going to do it? Oh my god, one's hard enough,
Oh my god. And I didn't think anything of it.
I would just laugh those comments off. And then when
I sat there on the bed, I was like, those
motherfuckers were right.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
How am I going to do this?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I was like, so I remember my obscitration like weeks ago.
One of the appointments gave me, like a twins what
to expect me, and I had it in my hospital back.
So I was like, I'm going to read that and
what to expect two of them literally, and I'm sitting
there reading and it's not a good leaflet to give
to a mother because it goes into how high chance
it is to get postnatal depression with twins and triplets
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and all that, and I was like, well, okay, cool negative.
So I kind of just like shove that to my
side and was like, well I'm here now, like just
get into it. And that was the start of a
three four week journey of just getting to know them,
like trying like trying to breastfeed, getting to know the
other parents in special care, because oh my god, like
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that was eye opening, Like I was. We were very
lucky that my twins. After the first couple of days,
they were kind of just in there to learn how
to feed because that was so small, and learn how
to breathe and feed at the same time. So they
were put on caffeine for the first five days of
their life. The babies were and I was like canos
literally I was mine because I was having coffee all
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it literally Italian. So they were on caffeine, and then
after that it was kind of just like building them up.
But some of the other parents in there, like there
was another set of twins that were born at twenty
seven weeks, and those poor babies were in and out
of operations like every time, like every week I would
go there, the mother was just there and I would like,
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that is one of the most eye opening experiences of
my life. And I take my hat off to the
midwives in special care and all parents that have been there,
because it's it's not what you expect when you when
you're pregnant and you see all these things on social
media and it's like, oh my god, a woman eating
sushi after she's just given a birth.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
So much about how happy and how yeah perfect, everything's.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
And then you meet someone like yourself, or you meet
someone who's like a friend of mine had a kid
that it was twenty.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Six weeks yeah, and so yeah, the mental toll on
him and his wife. I don't think they'll ever be
the same.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yes, it's not talked about enough.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Hundred and yeah. I remember literally like seeing that all
over socials. And then when I was in this dark
hospital room listening to other babies cry with a bloody leaflet,
I was like, well, this is not the fucking Instagram.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, like, it's not the it's not the Instagram world.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
It's gonna get fucking likes.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
So yeah, And then getting to know other parents and
then trying to breastfeed twins in special care. You've got
midwives and I know they're trying their hardest because they
want you to have that bond. And it's big on
the milk supply the first week, the first few days.
So like, bless my husband during the pregnancy bought me
one of those twin feeding breastfeeding pillows and he's like,
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you're going to use this religiously. Trust me. The girl
at the shop and I was like, you bought a
fucking three hundred dollar pillow. She's going to tell you
it's made a goal. I was like, you know, we
have couch cushions.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Interesting taken advantage of it.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Literally, So the next day at the hospital he brought
the damn pillow and it's like to all the midwives,
she's got the pillow. And then having two babies there
and like like you've got strangers around you, like other
dads and stuff, and it's like your topless. It's like
the weirdest thing ever. And I'm like, I'm like, they're
not looking at me.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I know they're not that good.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Literally literally, and I was like I was like, this
is just weird neighbors next door.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
It must be so weird because I'm sure you never
imagine being a mother to twins, never, But the mother
you are now, is it similar or quite far away
from the mum that you imagine you would be?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Oh my god, so much further apart to what I
thought i'd be in what way, Like before I knew
I was having twins, I was like, I am going
to be so zen.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
I'm gonna be jealous mom.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Like my mom is highly strung. She's me copy and paste,
so she so street growing up, so like with discipline
us like loved a wooden spoon, you know.
Speaker 7 (45:06):
So I was like, I'm not going to be like that.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
I'm so chill, like my husband's Fiji, and I'm going
to adapth that life.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
And then when I found out I was having twins,
and then now that the girls are here, mate, I'm
already like you see when they're like wingsing at me,
I'm like, don't talk to mom like that. Like so,
and I'm not as calm as I thought I would be.
I would think the newborn phase. I would be one
of those idiots that would say I worked full time
(45:34):
my whole life. I worked shift work, I didn't eat sleep,
I don't care. I am wake up for five years
of my life now, how are it's going to be?
Jesus Christ, there's no HR department when like it's yeah,
not like the whole no sleep and two babies. Like
the things with twins is the newborn like they one
(45:54):
will set the other off, or like at the time
they were so small and tiny, so one feed would
take like an hour to an hour and a half
and they need to be fed every three hours because
they were premies.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Do they Is there any like talk about, you know,
trying to get them in the same cycle. Yeah, I
mean because obviously when you have one and it's like, okay,
we'll get them in the routine as soon as soon
as you get as best as you can.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
You got to just try your bet. But then I
can imagine like being.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
In the thick of that with no sleepers, like okay,
we need to get them on the same side.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
Literally, So every twin parent I came across through my
pregnancy was like, you've got to get them on the
same schedule.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Got it?
Speaker 6 (46:30):
And again I was like I'm not like that. I
don't have a schedule for myself, Like every day is different.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Did you manage to get the twins on the same cycle.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
So the first night when they were newborns and they
weren't in a routine, I was like, okay, so this
is why everyone says getting a routine. So it would
be one would wake up feed and then the other
one would wake up and feed.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I'm like, fuck, this that's a.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
Long didn't sleep at all that whole night. So from
the from that day and I was like, okay, I'm
going to be adamant here. So I would do every
feed tandem or bottles obviously feed. Yeah, it's a crazy thing.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Yeah, yeah, Look I didn't know whether I could ask
that question, whether you do it at the same time.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Have you on the routine with the pillow, with the.
Speaker 6 (47:11):
Pillow, got to work the pillows. So yeah, and now
to this day, it's crazy, but they like they ship
at the same time now, like everything is literally if
one's got a dirty nappy, like within two minutes, I
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hear the other pushing, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Do you have you Look, I don't know because I've
never had twins. Do you have you ever mistakenly identified
one of them?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Never?
Speaker 6 (47:43):
So this seems like something like people ask me all
the time because they are identical.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
From the get go.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
They've never looked similar to me ever, like to even
at the point in special care, I'd be like to
the midwife, they're not freaking identical.
Speaker 7 (47:58):
Other like, oh honey, they're pretty similar. And even as they.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Grow they like everyone's like, wow, they're really identical. I'm like,
what are you looking at?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, I'm so bad with identical.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
I remember I had a mate I didn't know yet,
like I meet him playing soccer. I didn't know he
had an identical twin. And then I turned up to
soccer once an.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Identical twin was there and I was like I started talking.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
To him like it was like I was like, that's rude.
And then he was like you must know my brother.
So I'm so bad for that stuff.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
But I always wondered moms and dads ever mistaken.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
I can't say it's happened yet, Like I think it's
I think it's like science or something.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
It's just a good parent.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I don't know what any of them look like.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah I do.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I have to say like, well.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Done, thank you surviving Yeah twins, because my god, I've
been at breaking point seventy.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
With one newborn.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
He's about to go through it.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Again, you know, But I feel like what you're going
through like a different ages. I feel like that's hard
of what you guys do them while I I do because,
like I said, mine on the same nap schedule and
stuff your kids of all different ages. It's like you're
going through three different days in the one day he's about.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
To because I'm too and done. Matt's gone for a third,
which is a great girl dad. He's having another girl
at work, perf and this is the boost that I needed.
I'm like, if taken to it, yes.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
Yeah, it's just the Godfather, you'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I do want to ask one last question before we go.
When the kids are all grown up and if the
time comes that they are no longer living at home,
what is the one thing you would want them to
remember about the house they grew up in.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
I think that it was just a very supportive and
loving home and that like pretty much do whatever they
want within reason. And I hope they just remember like
how much fun we had, and I hope they remember
like how in love their father was with them as well,
like the way he's another girl dad obviously, and the
(50:13):
way he looks at those girls, it's he was born
to be a girl dad. He dopes over them.
Speaker 7 (50:20):
Yeah, and I feel like he needed them to bring
out that softer side.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
So I hope. I hope they remember that, and I
hope they'll definitely remember me as bad cop.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
But that's fine.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
I'll pop back and just how hard their dad as
well worked for them to have a good roof over
their head. One thing that I'm very fortunate is like
my maternity leave is pretty much up this month, so
if we were still in New Zealand, I'd be going
back to work. But now that we're in Australia, I
haven and started applying for dogs.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
I'm like, smuscle that you got this.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
Remember that's the deal.
Speaker 7 (50:56):
So yeah, very fortunate that he's able to do that.
Speaker 6 (51:00):
So I can be at home with them for as
long as I can, and I hope they remember that
we were just always there for them.
Speaker 7 (51:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, I love it, Taylor. It has been a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Thanks guys, sorry again to make you You've been here
for five hours now.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
Oh my god, it's like keep for me.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
This is much.
Speaker 7 (51:18):
Thank you so much, Thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Matt. That was Turbo.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
She has a lot to say, but she is very
funny and delightful.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I will say she's married bro.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I know that, I know, and he is much bigger
than me.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
How big is he?
Speaker 2 (51:40):
With six' three something like.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
That he's like a gentle. Giant i'm sure he'd be
lovely to us if we met.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
HIM i don't want to find.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
OUT a big shout out To taylor for jumping on our.
Podcast if you would like some more Of taylor and
maybe some more of her husband that happens. Handsome they
have a podcast called The Montoya, podcast which is hilarious if.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
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Us Matt, well just quickly on those. Reviews you know.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
WHY i put forward a request to try and get
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THOUSAND i think we're seven hundred and fifty.
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ONE, Whoa, OKAY i want to get to one thousand
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Year is it?
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Possible, Potentially, matthew anything is, possible but it's not.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
Possible without your.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
Help, yes you you, there you there? Listening so, yeah
if you haven't left a review PLEASE i would love.
It ash would love it as. Well it just reminded
me Of.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
Shrek you, there. Olga, yeah have you done a social plug?
Speaker 5 (52:41):
Again?
Speaker 2 (52:42):
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Speaker 3 (52:45):
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Speaker 1 (52:54):
Not these Ones. Wednesdays, yeah very.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
Confusing oh, god just a regular episode and if you're,
more you gotta pay for.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
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Speaker 6 (53:13):
It but.
Speaker 1 (53:16):
Bo see you.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
Guys next week's.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Circling how do we get out of?
Speaker 3 (53:19):
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Ash, I think you're gonna love this episode.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I love every episode.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
I don't know what you're talking about, but you love NRL,
and this is a love story that has come from
the world of NRL.
Speaker 4 (00:11):
Yes, I'm not going to say it's between a cheerleader
and an NRL player, because that would be off limits.
Matthew is a cheerleader and an under twenties player, which
I don't know how makes a difference.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's us perfectly fine.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
This episode is with Taylor Montoya, beautiful name, and she's
married to Marcelo Montoya, who plays with the Bulldogs currently,
who is a try scoring machine.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Matthew.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
She is Italian background, he is Fiji, And yes she
was a cheerleader. Yes he plays NRL. But this is
a match made in heaven.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yes, we talk about all things. Growing up in the area,
also having twins.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Growing up in what area? That's what they call the
Area's what's the area?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Ash, Oh my god, in the area.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What's the area?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
And you want to say that, or you wanted to
say they talk about the area?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Take her a.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Different again, I guess, but no.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
One's going to get that.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, everyone knows the area.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
What's the area?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Anyway, Yes, we talk all things love, rugby league, cheerleading,
and twins and the area I don't like being more.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Her road to motherhood wasn't without its hiccups. She did
feel pregnant, which sadly did end in a miscarriage, but
the story does have a beautiful ending because she has
welcomed too beautiful twins. Just quickly, before we get into
the episode, I spotted Taylor on a footy show on
Fox and she was hilarious doing an interview with her partner,
and I thought, we have to get her on the podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So this one is going to be a lot of fun.
She is hilarious.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Strap yourself in, listen do it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Welcome back to two doting dads and one doting mom.
I am Maddie, Jay.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I'm Ash, I'm Taylor.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Is a podcast all about parenting. It is the good,
it is.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
The bad and the relatable and Tay Taylor Tane.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
Yeah yeah, sal friends here, we don't give advice, but
you're more than welcome to I guess you're.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Is this the first mother of twins? This is?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And also I have to apologize because you've been sitting here.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Fuck for half an hour. Literally, I honestly, I apologize.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Will all share the responsibility?
Speaker 7 (02:38):
No, I love it.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
This is like a holiday for me, guys, So take
your time.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
We were just talking about being in the car on
the way anywhere without the kid.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
It's better than the same.
Speaker 7 (02:47):
Yeah, literally, especially now, Yeah, because you can be.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Like, you know, I'm gonna do you turn the rounding off.
We'll see her in silence.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You can, but we're taking away from like alone time
for take because she's just been sitting here as we've been.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like the last oh god, apologies, no plea.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
And we do like to start these episodes with our
guests by asking them a question about their childhood, and
we want to know, what's the most trouble you ever
got in as a child slash teenager?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
M I was. I was like a pretty chill kid.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, I don't believe that for a.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Yeah, Like to be honest, well, probably like around year nine,
year ten is when I kind of was like, oh cool, Yeah,
so that was when I probably started getting grounded. The
first time would have been a New Year's Eve party
in the area. It was a boy's house from high
school and my mom was like, you can go, but
there's parents, right, and I was like, yeah, obviously, like
(03:50):
who would leave a bunch of fourteen year olds by
themselves on?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
And then so I went to this New Year's Eve party.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
We call them gatheros in the Shire. It would be
like a bonfire in some random guy's backyard and then
you just sit around, yeah, like a townhouse.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah it's summer.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
And then like the whole week, people be like you're
going to go to the gather this weekond and like, yeah,
I'm going to the gather.
Speaker 7 (04:21):
And then so I went watched the fireworks there, a
bit of underage drinking was going on.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
It's a very big in and I thought everything went well.
I thought I came home unscathed. And then turns out
the boy that had the party, his older brother, was
in the same year as my older brother, and they
got talking one day and then my brother snitched.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
And goes to you know there was parents are that much?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
And then so my mom played the long game and
came up to me that day and was like, so,
is there anything you want to tell me? And I
was like like no, Like I hadn't really.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Good time any inkling that she.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Knew because I thought my brother always had my back
as well, it.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Was such a loaded question too, is Matthew, is there
anything that you want to tell me?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Literally?
Speaker 6 (05:10):
And I'm like god like and like this is going
to sound really harsh to myself, but I was one
of those girls at high school with all the boys
like don't want it.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I was like, I was like, so, I was.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
Like, look at me.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
I didn't get with anyone at the gather. I was like,
it wouldn't have been that. And then she was like, well,
I've heard there was no parents and I was like
there were, And then like what made it worse was
I doubled down and told her stories where I was
like they ordered us pizza the parents literally and she
was like I'm going to give you like five seconds
now to just confess. And I was like, okay, there's
(05:44):
no parents, and she was like you grounded for the
rest of summer holidays. So then like for the rest
of the school holidays, I had to make up excuses,
why do you want to hang out with my friends?
Like my friends didn't come from a strict parent Like
I'm like, my background's Italians, my mom dad are pretty
street and the like. All my friends didn't really like
parents were pretty chill, So every time I got an invite,
(06:06):
I was like, oh, no, like that sounds pretty lame.
I'm going to watch Jersey.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Literally, in the last few months gad to gather.
Speaker 8 (06:20):
Yeah, I love how like like back like then, parents
were so patient to play the longer.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Yeah, my kids.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
And I'm like, seriously now already like thinking about obviously
my girls are only nine months old. But if I
was to think of that them in that situation, mate,
I would have me going at them. I'd call my mom,
I'd call my husband.
Speaker 7 (06:43):
You are never leaving the house again, I did it?
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Did you get your brother back at all?
Speaker 6 (06:46):
I like literally was like, what the hell was that about?
And he's like, well, I don't like those group of
people you're hanging out with.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So maybe he saved you.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Actually yeah maybe actually, but yeah, and look like, to
be honest, I don't hang out with those people anymore.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
So there you go. Yeah, yeah, long Bay, there at
a big gathero in prison.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
All together.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm actually interested to know how does someone get into cheerleading?
Speaker 7 (07:16):
Yeah, great question.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
So I grew up dancing my whole life, and I
always aspired to be a Dallas Cowboy's chileader. That was
end game for me. And then probably around fifteen years old,
I realized I don't have the flexibility that's going to
get me there, but I'll kind of aim for the
NROL and see how Yeah, and I don't want to
(07:38):
talk about my brother again, but pretty much, he was
at a gavo and there was a Bulldogs cheerleader at
the party and he goes, what does my sister have
to do to get in the squad? And the chillier
at the time goes, we actually got auditions this week,
like if she's keen. So I went to the audition,
got in. I was eighteen at the time.
Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah, and I got in, and then yeah, the rest
was history.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Kind of what was audition like?
Speaker 6 (08:01):
It was pretty chill at the time, like nothing like
the Dallas Cabos chierleaders. I'm like, god, like, have you
guys watched that show? Yeah? Yeah, it's crazy, like more
than what an NFL player would have to do. So yeah,
I just kind of got in and then did that
for three years, but two years in I decided to
fratnize with the player.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
So yeah, so I've heard.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Can I ask is there any attraction to the world
of cheerleading because of the connection to the players.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
I would say for me personally, yeah.
Speaker 8 (08:35):
I.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
Don't want to talk on behalf of other cheerleaders who
were there to do it because they're so talented.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And that was their dreams around it.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
There are there absolutely are.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Do they say, hey, do not do not look at
the players.
Speaker 6 (08:51):
Yeah. So like at the time, I don't know what
it's like now, but because I was ten years ago now,
in the contract that you signed, it's like not fragnizing
with players. And I was like, well, that's fine because
when I met Marcello, he wasn't an n RL player,
was under twenties.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
I was like, that's fine, Like, if anything, they'll appreciate.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
So it's actually the like NRL players off limits. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Yeah, it's kind of weird, right because my parents met
at work, so they do Quantus.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
Who was the pilot, Where did.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
You guys meet you and myself?
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yeah, So I would see him around like in the
sheds and stuff, and I always thought like the first
time I saw him, I was like, holy ship, they
did not make men like that in the ship. I've
never seen someone like tall, dark and handsome like that.
Speaker 7 (09:42):
I don't know, he just like to be by surprise.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
And the gather, but he kind of gives off really
resting bitch face. So I was like, okay, like he's
kind of rude, and I was like whatever, I'm not interested.
And then the club at the time holds a dinner
where the cheerleaders have dinner with the under twenties players.
Speaker 8 (10:05):
I was going to say, going to say, you have
dinner with the dinner wat you just said.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
We can't frightenize, and now you're putting us.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
On speed dating literally, and it's like the purpose is
to like have an etiquette dinner, and it's kind of
like you like kind of have conversations and teach the
boys and the girls kind of how to have etiquette.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, you do it in the room.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
And I remember seeing him there and like he was
talking to my friend and he was kind of like
not giving me too much, So I was like, well,
stuff him. But then he followed me on Instagram later
that day, yeah, and I was like, okay, maybe he
kind of did see something in me. And once the
facilit but nothing happened, and then we ran into each
other at Cargo Bar.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, and then you know, sparks flew from there.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
It was it's no longer around cargo bus.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, it's just more there's more food there now. Yeah,
but less drives more food.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
It's a well known night clif anyone outside of the city, well,
no night class.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yeah, there was a couple of story story high.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
It was unreal back in the day, I'm pretty sure.
Like now, I think they just celebrated their like twenty
fifth birthday or something. I don't know why I know that,
but yeah, it looks it looks like we have a
gone that's kind of not our vibe anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
But yeah, and then was it your first day at
hogs bread correct?
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Yeah, so he is wrong.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
I go hogs Breadth.
Speaker 6 (11:33):
We're very classy. So he at the time was living
in Liverpool and I was in Krenulla. So I thought
it was big props to him that he was like, oh,
come out to you, I'll come pick you up. And
I know that's kind of people probably listen going that's
that should be standard.
Speaker 7 (11:48):
Back then, I was like this is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Like, oh my goodness.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Yeah, And so he pulled up at my house and
I was about to leave and my mum was like,
where the hell do you think you're going. I was like, oh,
like bread, Yeah, that's the boy. There's a boy out
here waiting for me. And she's like, oh, like, you know,
he should really come to the door. And I was
like I'm not going to fucking make him come to
the door, mum, and I just left, bolted, got in
his car and suddenly this smell just hit me and
(12:16):
I was like holy shit. And he had that.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Black ice air freshener.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
And I never smelled that before, and I was like,
holy crap, this guy has like game, I don't know what.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
It's like the equivalent of Leaks Africa literally.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Literally, and I was like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
And then from that moment, I'm like it was just
a dream that date, like Hoggs Bread, curly Fries. Oh.
They still have definitely not in Crenella anymore, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Not Inna.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
They're still around in Brisbane. I think they're still doing
well in Brisbane. But yeah, damn shame hard to get traction.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
I went to one in Dubbo Ones It was terrible, shame.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Sorry he still existing, but remember all the old ads
and stuff like that, Like it was just like similar
to Sizzlovie.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, yeah, Miss Siler.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
That's another story.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Do you remember the moment that Marcello proposed to you?
Speaker 7 (13:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I do.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
So I had been begging him for a proposal for
a while because we were together from the moment I
was eighteen, he was nineteen, and then like we were
coming up to like twenty five years old and still
nothing had happened, and all our friends were getting engaged.
I know you shouldn't compare, but it's hard not to
do an your bloody bridesmaids freaking five times a year.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
Yeah, And so he was like to.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
Me, I was I was graduating from my degree at
the time, so my mum had organized this big family
dinner and he was like, I'm going to take you
to a hotel before the dinner to.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
Celebrate your graduation. I was like, okay, cool before dinner.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
I was like I didn't even think much of it,
and like the I was increneal and he took me
the four Seasons in the city.
Speaker 7 (14:02):
I was like, this is.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
And my mom I don't know why, but she thought
I was kind of getting suspicious. So she took me
for a walk one day and was like, you know,
like Marcella's graduation present it's pretty huge.
Speaker 7 (14:18):
It's not like you've been dreaming of. And I was like,
oh my god, yeah, you got your French bulldog.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
And I was like, did you want that idea? But yeah,
and I was.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I didn't want to.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Ye, I hear all the issues on Jesus Christ uninsurable. Yeah,
but I was like really and she's like yeah, Like
don't don't let him know that I told you, But yeah,
you got a French And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
She's like I get what she's doing, but it's an
interesting setup. She's taking you on a different path.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yeah. I wasn't suspicious though, so I was like, I
don't understand why she needed to do that, but yeah,
it seems to.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Be like why are you telling you?
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Don't worry? I got you.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Please start. So he took me to this hotel and
like he was like, oh, we'll take you up to
the room, but I'm going to blindfold and I was like, well,
obviously because there's a French so many questions, but blindfolded
me opened the door and then there was music playing
our favorite song at the time, and then what so
(15:22):
freagain Forever Love by God. I'm not going to pronounce
your name correctly. It's a new KEYWI singer can singer.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Right now.
Speaker 6 (15:48):
So he under the blindfold and then yet said will
you marry me? In balloons on the window? And then
I was like, oh my god, yes, and I'm looking around.
I was like, where's the door and he was like
like look, dog, and I was like, mom said you
got me French ballot on. He's like, you want to
fucking ring and the French boll was like fifteen.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
K and it's uninsurable.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
And then and he was like what would your mom
tell you that? And I was like I don't know.
Speaker 6 (16:14):
And then he's like what fuck.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
I'm happy, but like okay.
Speaker 6 (16:19):
Dog, And then yeah, so that was the that was
the proposal.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And and then you had to go to the family
dinner afterwards.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Yeah, that was the reason for the hotel before exactly
done that, yeah, in traffic.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
And I think he knows like I because he originally
said I'll do it in front of all her family
at the dinner. And then I was like, if that
is ever a thing, do not fucking do it in
front of my family, Like I just it would be
a whole thing with them and his family, and it's
just like a lot.
Speaker 8 (16:53):
Yeah, it's like we were talking about if someone sings
me happy birthday in public, that is why he literally
if was like back in the day, or you can
only propose me in front of my family, I'll be like, well.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Sawyer absolutely like.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Credits to people who do it at restaurants.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, another credit, do it somewhere.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Else between you and Marcelo, who was the person who
started talking about having a family.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
First, Yeah, definitely Marcello's Yeah, so like again the big
Fiji and background, he's kind of always wanted to have kids,
probably earlier than later, and because we were together from
the age of eighteen, he was probably like I don't know,
like twenty two and ready, but he was very Yeah,
he was very respectable.
Speaker 7 (17:39):
I'm respectful so for my career and kind of where
I was.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
I was not ready at twenty two. I'm barely ready now.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Does he have a lot of siblings and he does, He's.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
One of four, and then he's got mate that many cousins,
Like I can't keep up, Like.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
You go to Fiji mentioned his name, I will do that.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
So yeah, he was like not pastoring me, but he's
always wanted that and i'd be like, hold your horses,
like because in NRL as well, there it's kind of different,
like they peak in this incredible career that they've dreamed
of and work so hard for so.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
Early on, whereas for other people.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Like in your twenties, you're just getting started and you've
got to kind of work your way up the ladder
and make your name literally literally. So I was like,
I don't want to do that. That would be so
hard for me to get back in the workplace. And
so yeah, he was very respective, unrespectful, and yeah, eventually
we got there in the end. Anyway, So I was
trying to fall pregnant, so we'd like kind of bits
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and pieces. So I was on the pill for ten
years and I'd heard my whole life that's going to
stuff you up really bad. So as soon as we
got married, I got off it, not to necessarily start trying,
but just to kind of like learn my body again
because you don't realize what the pill does to you.
Speaker 7 (18:58):
Like this is going to sound so crazy, but tell us.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Coming off the pill, I was like, oh my god,
I don't remember feeling happy in ten years now, Like.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
It gets to that, like it's it's crazy.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
It's a weird feeling, especially for.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like young man.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
We don't at that age, like even now, I'm only
learning about all this yeah, and all the different variations
and all the different things that it can potentially do
to the female boy, but he would have had any
idea what that was.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
And then so when I came off the pill, suddenly,
like I dropped all this weight because you hold onto
a lot of water, and I was happier, like less tired,
and he's like, holy crap, like this is like the
real you know.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
I was like, yeah, like if you love me, then.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
So I got off it and then we were married
for two years at the time, and went for an
off season trip to Hawaii and then I don't know,
one drunken night in Hawaii, like fell pregnant luckily, and
then but unfortunately that pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. Yeah,
thank you. So it was kind of like a weird, weird,
(20:00):
very rare pregnancy. So two sperms went in the one egg.
So it was a partial mol of pregnancy, Okay, And
you don't really like I'm lucky in a way that
normally when you have a miscarriage, there's a lot that
doctors can't tell you what happened, Like you'll get a
generic answer like oh, this is very common, like one
(20:21):
in four women have it, and you're like kind of like, well,
that kind of doesn't help me sleep at nights because
I'm like, hey, how do I avoid this?
Speaker 7 (20:26):
Like what the fuck?
Speaker 6 (20:28):
But luckily, luckily for me, I got the surgery to
remove the tissue and they were able to test it
and find out that two sperms entered the one egg.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
So when you had your miscarriage, what test did they
do to find that out?
Speaker 6 (20:43):
So when I got it's called like this DNC, So
they remove the tissue or unsuccessful embryo I guess, and
they take that off to a lab and test it
and that's how they found out.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
So it was crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
So okay, if, for example, and this is excuse my ignorance,
if there was no miscarriage and you continued on that pregnancy,
and how is there a stagelong there that you would
ever have known that you had or was that the
like I mean like I'm.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Trying to figure yeah, Like it's honestly, I'd never heard about.
So it happens in one percent of pregnancy, so it's
extremely rare.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It is rare.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
I think it's like one in twelve hundred pregnancies. Like, so,
what happens is the chromosome. It's got to triple the
amount of chromosomes as to what needed pretty much.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
So.
Speaker 6 (21:32):
But the weird thing about it is once they remove it.
So when I found out, I got a call from
the gynecologists on Christmas Day, and I was like, why
is this guy calling me?
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Because I had kind of what kind of gynocologist Christmas for.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
All I knew at the time was Okay, I was pregnant,
and at ten weeks I went for an ultrasound and
the heart wasn't beating, so they removed it. That's all
I thought. I thought I'd never find out answers. I
thought they'd be like, it was just a miscarriage whatever.
And then so when I got a call on Christmas Day,
he was like, okay, so yours is a bit different.
Speaker 7 (22:06):
It's a partial mole of pregnancy.
Speaker 6 (22:07):
Two sperms went in the one egg, so I'm going
to need you to do all these things to me.
And I was like, oh my god, Like I'm kind
of just still dealing with the fact that I've had
a miscarriage, Like what do you mean and he's like,
so pretty much because it's formed an abnormal cyst is
pretty much what they called it. It can continue to
grow if all of it wasn't removed, and to like
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get rid of it, you need chemotherapy.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
And I was like, holy shit, what do you mean,
Like like I'm trying to deal with Christmas lunch and
I was like I don't understand.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
I'm asking all these questions and he's like, sent me
this article treat He's like, this article will explain it
better than I can, because he's like it's just such
a rare thing.
Speaker 7 (22:47):
Trap your head around.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
So then, pretty much from that phone call, as soon
as labs opened up again, I had to go for
weekly blood tests to make sure my hCG was lowering,
because if it wasn't, then would show my body would
still think I was pregnant and growing this abnormal tissue
and then would have to go through chemotherapy.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
That's why.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, At the same time as dealing with all of that,
for people who haven't had a miscarriage or experience that
situation with their partner, there's a real emotional whiplash because
you going, oh my God, I'm pregnant. Yeah, quickly going okay,
well this life I was imagining is now completely taken away.
How did you deal with the emotions of finding out
you had a miscarriage?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
Oh, Like, honestly, like you said, we weren't those people
that thought we're going to wait till twelve weeks to
tell people I'm pregnant, like the test said, like so
why why wait? So we were telling my family, his family,
like my close friends, and you get wrapped up in
that excitement because it's a beautiful thing. Everyone's excited for you,
and you want to be You want to share that
(23:49):
enjoyment with people, and then to then yeah, miscarry and
then go through that. So at the time, we're in
New Zealand, just me and my husband, no family around
there or from Sydney. So I guess in a way
we really leaned on each other. And like, I know
he wouldn't mind me saying this, but he probably struggled a.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Bit more than I did.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
I think because it's my body and I kind of
can grasp what's happening a bit more, whereas like the male,
like you've contributed to this thing, but you're removed from it.
So but it's like, but hang on, so like was
it real like kind of thing. So he kind of
tackled a bit more than me, but we were just
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there for each other and really leaned on each other.
And honestly, like this is gonna sound weird, but like
a dog, like the amount of happiness that dog brought
me because my husband was during pre season, so he's
still going to work every day and I had no
family around, so be me and my sausage dog, and
like I'd be crying on the couch watching bloody Vanda
punt rules and then heat out of nowhere like fart
(24:55):
and I just like.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
Laugh like things like that.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I'm to go through that.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, thank you, But yeah, it must be isolating to
being in a different country.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Yeah, New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
And there's there's players over there in the team. Yeah
they have partis and stuff, but they're not you. They're
not your yeah yeah your.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Group, yeah exactly.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
Yeah, they're not at the gather and.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Like there's only so much, like your mom can be
there for you over FaceTime as well, Like my mom
and dad would FaceTime me like every two hours, pretty
much knowing that Muscella was at work all day.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
There's something about being overseas and away from your family
that just heighten every emotion. I can't imagine experiencing something
like a miscarriagter.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, full on.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
We've spoken to people that have had miscarriages before and
the anxiety going into it again.
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
How long after the after you found out, you decide,
to lack of a better term, get back on the horse.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Yeah. Well literally, Like I've got an obsessive personality, so
to be pregnant and then have it taken away from you.
I went from being like, oh, kids, it'll happen when
it happened, to them being like no, fuck this, Like
I just had that, like.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
I want it, like I want I want it back.
Speaker 6 (26:06):
But our obstetrition because of the type of miscarriage I had,
was like, it's not advised to start trying within six
months to a year because there's a higher chance of
complications now. And I was like, yeah, that's fine. So
I was like, what can I do to control this
situation if I can, So I went to naturopaths and acupuncture,
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and because my cycle TM, I sorry, guys, my cycle
went from being like perfect to then getting this miscarriage.
So then going to like forty days, and I was like,
well that's not healthy, Like what's going on with me?
So I was just stress, stress stress. I went on
all whole foods diet, which I'd love a bit of
that now because I'd love that determination because now you
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should see what I eat. But so I kind of
just tried to control things like that, but got quite obsessive.
So then the minute I kind of was like, you're
being an idiot, now just and relaxed.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Then I felt pregnant again. Naturally.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
God.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I miscarried in November. I fell in March.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (27:10):
Yeah, And I remember ringing my obstecution.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
He was like, I.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Said, and he was like really And I was like
well yeah, And he's like, okay, we're gonna have to
get a blood test immediately and then bring you in
for a scan to make sure it's not that same tissue.
Like and I was like, fuck me, dad, nothing's ever straightforward,
Like I was like, let me just enjoy this moment.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
But yeah, so like four or five months later, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Wow, And so how do you find out what was
this situation where you I told the news that you
were carrying twins?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
It was crazy, man, so at the time, Marcello had
just flown back to Sydney to think they were versing
dragons or something. So I was home by myself in
New Zealand and I told my mom I was pregnant.
I was like, well, I'm going for the first scan
at six weeks because my HGG is really high. So
they kind of worried and she was like, okay, cool.
Didn't say anything. The day before the skin, some people
(28:06):
knock at my door and I'm like, I don't answer doors,
especially wh myles. It's not home. I just no one
come see me. So I'm like sitting like watching the
Telly for ten minutes and these people are knocking, knocking, knocking,
and I'm like, oh my god, they're persistent. And I
opened the door.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Literally a phone call when someone knocks on our door
and I'm not home.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
Someone at the door like, yeah, that's exactly like me.
So yeah, finally open the dawns and my mom, my
mom and dad. So they had surprised me to be
with me.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Door away get the fu.
Speaker 6 (28:46):
So they had surprised me to come to the scan
with me just in case. Yeah yeah. And then so
we went to the scan and my dad was like, oh,
wait outside. I was like, that's a great idea because
this early on, they'll go internal. So you went outside
and so me and mom in the chair and they
went over the stomach at first, and she's like, oh,
great news, like there's the heartbeat. I was like, oh
(29:06):
my god, unreal because I never got to experience that
the first time. So I was like, amazing, I'm on
like cloud nine. My mom's crying. She's like, wow, a miracle.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Amazing it is.
Speaker 6 (29:18):
Yeah, and so early on too, because that's six weeks.
I was not. I thought it would just be like
adult like the first time. And then so she was like,
but I just want to take a closer look, you know,
given your history. So yeah, yeah, literally said.
Speaker 7 (29:31):
She's like, go, I'm to your bladder and come back in.
Speaker 6 (29:33):
And then immediately, like my mom's body language sunk, I sunk.
And then I come back and then get on the
table and then she like goes internally and she's like, okay, yep,
so I just want to confirm there is the heartbeat.
So we're all good there and I was like unreal,
and she's like, but I just want to draw your
attention to this area and I was like yeah, and
like I don't know what I'm looking at it. And
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then she's like, so heartbeat one and then you'll just
see there's another heartbeat here. And literally before I could
say anything, my mom's like, I'm.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Like, holy shit, so come down, my bloody won't. And
I was like, what do you mean?
Speaker 6 (30:14):
And she's like, you're having twins, honey, And I was like,
oh man, what And.
Speaker 7 (30:19):
The lady doing the skin was a twin mom herself.
So I was like, that is like destiny.
Speaker 6 (30:24):
Because I said to her without thinking, I'm gonna need
a bigger fucking card. She's like, no, honey, I had
twins in a yarras your and then so like from
that moment on, she was able to tell me they
were identical twins. I don't know how, but she could
see there was only one placenta, so that confirms it's identical.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
That's the question I had about the twins.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
So one placenta, but you can have two if they're
not identical.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yes, So fraternal is two placentas, like each baby gets
their own placenta, which is luxury. And then in my
case there was one placenta, two sacks. So the way
she said to me was they're in the same house,
own bedroom, same bathroom.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
I was like, okay.
Speaker 6 (31:13):
So from that point on, like my mom's just a mess,
like a combination of happy tears and like what the fuck.
And then we walk out of the room and my
dad looks at me and he sees my mom's face.
He's like a ghost, bawling her eyes down. So he's like,
oh my god, like what's happened. I was like, I'm
having twins. And he's like, fuck you, Taylor. You never
take serious.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
We have a very dark humor now fairly.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
And I was like, Dad, I'm having twins, and he's like,
I can't take you seriously.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
He's such a bullshitter.
Speaker 6 (31:40):
And and then he looks at my mom and she's
like she's had fucking and he's like yes, and everyone's
looking at me. In New Zealand as well. People are
very in.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
The New Zealand medical practice. There's three going off there.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Literally everyone's like okay, so yeah, And then like the
ride home, I was like to mom, We're gonna have
to FaceTime Marcelo, like I can't keep this from him.
They had just lost so he was in a really
crazy meeting like with the coach and all that, and
they were kind of I think getting like the review. Yeah,
(32:22):
and then so he ran out and he didn't look
very happy, and I was like, he was like, how
did it all go? And I was like yeah, fine,
and he's like, oh cool, and I was like, yes,
so we're having twins and he was like, you're fucking
kidding and I was like, no, we're having twins. He's like,
I'm gonna have to start playing Origin.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Was a money mask.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
We're going to need some forward.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
But then so yeah, kind of just from that point on,
because they were identical twins, I got the rundown straight away,
fortnightly scans from pretty much six weeks to full term.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Was the birth straightforward?
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Yeah, straightforward as I could imagine twins. So the plan
originally was to have the babies in New Zealand because
my husband was contracted for the Warriors for a few
more years. So like met with this beautiful obstetricia. He
was pretty set on having a C section, and I
kind of didn't really know much about either, so I
was like, whatever safest, I don't really care. And then
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as my pregnancy progressed, everything was looking fine, and then
Mussello ended up signing a deal with a club in
Sydney when I was thirty two weeks pregnant with twins,
which is great, it is great to come home to family,
but not great in the fact that I was like,
not really no, so.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, as soon as you said that I was.
Speaker 6 (33:46):
Threshold with high risk twins, like yeah, So when I
got told that, I was like to my obstetrition hey mate,
thanks for your help, like all this pregnancy, but I'm
a dip. Yeah, keep the money. Like literally, I was like,
please give me medical clearance. So he did one last
(34:08):
scan on me and he was like it's fine, it's
a three hour flight. Granted me medical clearance and then
I was like soon as we landed, like, let's find
someone to deliver my babies. And found this amazing obstetrician
in Cogra who was like, if you want to do
this vaginally, like I got you, let's do it. And
I was like, shit, yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Does she got.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
Somefore I'm action up there out but I was like,
because I was like to mussel I don't want to
not drive for six weeks after Like their job is
like so intense, like they're never home rightly, so they're
always training or traveling. And the time that I was
due was right in the heart of pre season, and
for like the NRL season, pre season is like the
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most intense.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
They're like out of the house by five am, home
by seven. It's like the wildest thing. So I was like,
I need to be able to drive, like just doctor's.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Appointments things like that. So I was like, if I can, like,
let's just do it. And then yeah, I didn't really
think about that choice until I was in the birthing suite,
couldn't sleep and had one woman.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
Push out one and I was like, I gotta fucking
do this.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Twice I was like, like, it's too late, But yeah,
it ended up working out well. Section no vaginally going
through thank you, Yeah, come.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
On, sorry sorry. I was like I was expecting.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
Anyway I could drive six weeks no, So yeah, that
whole ordeal was God, it felt like a lifetime.
Speaker 7 (35:40):
But they were born eight minutes apart, So you mentioned, yeah,
is that quick?
Speaker 2 (35:45):
I think, so, yeah, I wonder how long it can
actually get.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Yeah, well, I think if it gets too long with twins,
they will put you into an emergency Caesar because there was.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
He did give me the rundown.
Speaker 6 (35:56):
You might be able to give birth vaginally for the
first one, twin a, and then we might cut you
open for twin Ben.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
Want the bigger one to come first, yeah, and she didn't.
Speaker 6 (36:05):
The smaller one came first, head first, and then the
second one came legs first and bigger.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Going on.
Speaker 6 (36:14):
Yeah. I mentioned before that they were PREMI yeah weeks
so quite lucky to be honest, thirty six weeks so
pretty good. I was told because there was such a
high risk identical more high risk because there's this thing
called like one placenta. There's like, what could happen is
the placenta starts to favor one baby, and then that's
why you have to go for routine scans because the
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minute the growth starts to get kind of big, they're like, okay,
the placenta's only kind of feeding one baby. Like we
need to induce you now, like people have had identical
twins at like twenty eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Wow, yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
I suppose like, yeah, the one just mal nurish. You
don't want exactly I want that? And do they have
to spend some time in Nico?
Speaker 6 (36:58):
Yeah? Yeah, So they thought they were a lot bigger
than what they actually were. So when they were.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Born, did that before or after?
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Yeah? Well literally, like my whole pregnancy, they're like they're
They're right up there with singular babies. I'm like, oh
my god, I'm doing so well, like for someone with
low iron.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
I'm like, And then.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
When they were born, we were guessing, like the nurses
like guess, like they only have to be over two
point five to avoid specially, ok And I was like,
that was not like four weeks ago. And then twin
one ended up being born at one point eight and
Milan at two point two, So like it went from
like riding high to like, Okay, they're going to spend
quite a while in special care. It ended up being
(37:37):
three four weeks.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, and you go back and forth.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Is that how it works? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (37:42):
Kind of. So for the first week they wanted me
around like in the hospital like for your milk supply
and bonding and stuff. But I mean bonding in the kniku.
It's not the nicest there, Like it's.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Like the bubble Boy and sign film.
Speaker 6 (37:58):
Literally literally I wasn't allowed to touch them for about
two days and then after that they that's hard it's
so hard, and like I would even like sneak because
they were in like like an incubator. I guess their
legs I could touch, so when the nerve, like the
midwife will by like touch their little leg and then
(38:19):
the heart rate would like like go crazy, would yeah,
So then the midwife would come over and be like, look,
I know you think you've got the magic time, but
we really can't be touched on the heart. And I
was like, oh my god, like that's what it felt
like and it's really dark room.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And then what's that first hold line?
Speaker 7 (38:41):
Yeah, so I.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
Got I was lucky enough to get the first hold
after giving birth. They gave me skin to skin, so
but to be honest, like it's an outer body experience.
Speaker 7 (38:50):
In the moment, you don't really remember. I don't remember
it now.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
So the special care though it was it was beautiful
but terrifying because they were tiny, like when I'm like
the size of my really yeah, not much bigger. Like
I've even got this photo and I'm holding both of
them and I'm covering them pretty much like it's just
their head.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
It's crazy.
Speaker 7 (39:10):
It's crazy.
Speaker 6 (39:11):
So that like I was trying to be delicate I'm
not a delicate person. As you can see, my hands
are going ever literally and I'm like and I like,
my babies were pretty much the first babies I really
ever hearld And then you're kind of trying to not
look awkward in front of these midwives because you're like,
oh my god, they're going to think I'm like not
capable of me.
Speaker 7 (39:30):
And then like, yeah, it was surreal, really surreal.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
So small.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, I'm trying to think back to when I had Marley,
my first child, and I don't think anything can really
prepare you for the newborn face. Yeah, you can kind
of see little snippets of your friends and other family
who've got a newborn.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
You can read the books.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
I didn't read your books, but until you're in the trenches, nothing,
why I prepares you for it.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
And then you've got two of them?
Speaker 6 (39:57):
What is that like?
Speaker 7 (40:00):
Same as you.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
It didn't hit me until that first night I gave birth.
So the babies went away to special care. I got
taken back up to the maternity ward and I was
just in a public hospital. So I'm sharing with like
four other mothers some globe literally, so like some mothers
have their newborn babies with them. Some are going into
(40:23):
labor the next day, like and I'm just here. No
baby's in my stomach, no baby's by my bed, but
I can hear babies crying, and I'm and like Marcella
had to go home because he had worked the next
day at five am. So I was like literally on
the bed and it all hit me and I just
burst into tears, and I was like, you should have
read a fucking book, you idiot. Like the whole time
you're pregnant with twins, especially people like how are you
(40:45):
going to do it? Oh my god, one's hard enough,
Oh my god. And I didn't think anything of it.
I would just laugh those comments off. And then when
I sat there on the bed, I was like, those
motherfuckers were right.
Speaker 7 (40:54):
How am I going to do this?
Speaker 6 (40:56):
I was like, so I remember my obscitration like weeks ago.
One of the appointments gave me, like a twins what
to expect me, and I had it in my hospital back.
So I was like, I'm going to read that and
what to expect two of them literally, and I'm sitting
there reading and it's not a good leaflet to give
to a mother because it goes into how high chance
it is to get postnatal depression with twins and triplets
(41:19):
and all that, and I was like, well, okay, cool negative.
So I kind of just like shove that to my
side and was like, well I'm here now, like just
get into it. And that was the start of a
three four week journey of just getting to know them,
like trying like trying to breastfeed, getting to know the
other parents in special care, because oh my god, like
(41:40):
that was eye opening, Like I was. We were very
lucky that my twins. After the first couple of days,
they were kind of just in there to learn how
to feed because that was so small, and learn how
to breathe and feed at the same time. So they
were put on caffeine for the first five days of
their life. The babies were and I was like canos
literally I was mine because I was having coffee all
(42:06):
it literally Italian. So they were on caffeine, and then
after that it was kind of just like building them up.
But some of the other parents in there, like there
was another set of twins that were born at twenty
seven weeks, and those poor babies were in and out
of operations like every time, like every week I would
go there, the mother was just there and I would like,
(42:26):
that is one of the most eye opening experiences of
my life. And I take my hat off to the
midwives in special care and all parents that have been there,
because it's it's not what you expect when you when
you're pregnant and you see all these things on social
media and it's like, oh my god, a woman eating
sushi after she's just given a birth.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
So much about how happy and how yeah perfect, everything's.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Going to be.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
And then you meet someone like yourself, or you meet
someone who's like a friend of mine had a kid
that it was twenty.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Six weeks yeah, and so yeah, the mental toll on
him and his wife. I don't think they'll ever be
the same.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Yes, it's not talked about enough.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
Hundred and yeah. I remember literally like seeing that all
over socials. And then when I was in this dark
hospital room listening to other babies cry with a bloody leaflet,
I was like, well, this is not the fucking Instagram.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, like, it's not the it's not the Instagram world.
Speaker 7 (43:19):
It's gonna get fucking likes.
Speaker 6 (43:24):
So yeah, And then getting to know other parents and
then trying to breastfeed twins in special care. You've got
midwives and I know they're trying their hardest because they
want you to have that bond. And it's big on
the milk supply the first week, the first few days.
So like, bless my husband during the pregnancy bought me
one of those twin feeding breastfeeding pillows and he's like,
(43:44):
you're going to use this religiously. Trust me. The girl
at the shop and I was like, you bought a
fucking three hundred dollar pillow. She's going to tell you
it's made a goal. I was like, you know, we
have couch cushions.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Interesting taken advantage of it.
Speaker 6 (43:55):
Literally, So the next day at the hospital he brought
the damn pillow and it's like to all the midwives,
she's got the pillow. And then having two babies there
and like like you've got strangers around you, like other
dads and stuff, and it's like your topless. It's like
the weirdest thing ever. And I'm like, I'm like, they're
not looking at me.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
I know they're not that good.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
Literally literally, and I was like I was like, this
is just weird neighbors next door.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
It must be so weird because I'm sure you never
imagine being a mother to twins, never, But the mother
you are now, is it similar or quite far away
from the mum that you imagine you would be?
Speaker 6 (44:45):
Oh my god, so much further apart to what I
thought i'd be in what way, Like before I knew
I was having twins, I was like, I am going
to be so zen.
Speaker 7 (44:52):
I'm gonna be jealous mom.
Speaker 6 (44:54):
Like my mom is highly strung. She's me copy and paste,
so she so street growing up, so like with discipline
us like loved a wooden spoon, you know.
Speaker 7 (45:06):
So I was like, I'm not going to be like that.
Speaker 6 (45:08):
I'm so chill, like my husband's Fiji, and I'm going
to adapth that life.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (45:12):
And then when I found out I was having twins,
and then now that the girls are here, mate, I'm
already like you see when they're like wingsing at me,
I'm like, don't talk to mom like that. Like so,
and I'm not as calm as I thought I would be.
I would think the newborn phase. I would be one
of those idiots that would say I worked full time
(45:34):
my whole life. I worked shift work, I didn't eat sleep,
I don't care. I am wake up for five years
of my life now, how are it's going to be?
Jesus Christ, there's no HR department when like it's yeah,
not like the whole no sleep and two babies. Like
the things with twins is the newborn like they one
(45:54):
will set the other off, or like at the time
they were so small and tiny, so one feed would
take like an hour to an hour and a half
and they need to be fed every three hours because
they were premies.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Do they Is there any like talk about, you know,
trying to get them in the same cycle. Yeah, I
mean because obviously when you have one and it's like, okay,
we'll get them in the routine as soon as soon
as you get as best as you can.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
You got to just try your bet. But then I
can imagine like being.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
In the thick of that with no sleepers, like okay,
we need to get them on the same side.
Speaker 6 (46:24):
Literally, So every twin parent I came across through my
pregnancy was like, you've got to get them on the
same schedule.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Got it?
Speaker 6 (46:30):
And again I was like I'm not like that. I
don't have a schedule for myself, Like every day is different.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Did you manage to get the twins on the same cycle.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
So the first night when they were newborns and they
weren't in a routine, I was like, okay, so this
is why everyone says getting a routine. So it would
be one would wake up feed and then the other
one would wake up and feed.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
I'm like, fuck, this that's a.
Speaker 6 (46:48):
Long didn't sleep at all that whole night. So from
the from that day and I was like, okay, I'm
going to be adamant here. So I would do every
feed tandem or bottles obviously feed. Yeah, it's a crazy thing.
Speaker 8 (47:01):
Yeah, yeah, Look I didn't know whether I could ask
that question, whether you do it at the same time.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
Have you on the routine with the pillow, with the.
Speaker 6 (47:11):
Pillow, got to work the pillows. So yeah, and now
to this day, it's crazy, but they like they ship
at the same time now, like everything is literally if
one's got a dirty nappy, like within two minutes, I
(47:33):
hear the other pushing, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Do you have you Look, I don't know because I've
never had twins. Do you have you ever mistakenly identified
one of them?
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Never?
Speaker 6 (47:43):
So this seems like something like people ask me all
the time because they are identical.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
From the get go.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
They've never looked similar to me ever, like to even
at the point in special care, I'd be like to
the midwife, they're not freaking identical.
Speaker 7 (47:58):
Other like, oh honey, they're pretty similar. And even as they.
Speaker 6 (48:01):
Grow they like everyone's like, wow, they're really identical. I'm like,
what are you looking at?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, I'm so bad with identical.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
I remember I had a mate I didn't know yet,
like I meet him playing soccer. I didn't know he
had an identical twin. And then I turned up to
soccer once an.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
Identical twin was there and I was like I started talking.
Speaker 8 (48:17):
To him like it was like I was like, that's rude.
And then he was like you must know my brother.
So I'm so bad for that stuff.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
But I always wondered moms and dads ever mistaken.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
I can't say it's happened yet, Like I think it's
I think it's like science or something.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
It's just a good parent.
Speaker 2 (48:40):
I don't know what any of them look like.
Speaker 6 (48:44):
Yeah I do.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
I have to say like, well.
Speaker 3 (48:53):
Done, thank you surviving Yeah twins, because my god, I've
been at breaking point seventy.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
With one newborn.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
He's about to go through it.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
Again, you know, But I feel like what you're going
through like a different ages. I feel like that's hard
of what you guys do them while I I do because,
like I said, mine on the same nap schedule and
stuff your kids of all different ages. It's like you're
going through three different days in the one day he's about.
Speaker 4 (49:24):
To because I'm too and done. Matt's gone for a third,
which is a great girl dad. He's having another girl
at work, perf and this is the boost that I needed.
I'm like, if taken to it, yes.
Speaker 8 (49:33):
Yeah, it's just the Godfather, you'd be fine.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
I do want to ask one last question before we go.
When the kids are all grown up and if the
time comes that they are no longer living at home,
what is the one thing you would want them to
remember about the house they grew up in.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
I think that it was just a very supportive and
loving home and that like pretty much do whatever they
want within reason. And I hope they just remember like
how much fun we had, and I hope they remember
like how in love their father was with them as well,
like the way he's another girl dad obviously, and the
(50:13):
way he looks at those girls, it's he was born
to be a girl dad. He dopes over them.
Speaker 7 (50:20):
Yeah, and I feel like he needed them to bring
out that softer side.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
So I hope. I hope they remember that, and I
hope they'll definitely remember me as bad cop.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
But that's fine.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
I'll pop back and just how hard their dad as
well worked for them to have a good roof over
their head. One thing that I'm very fortunate is like
my maternity leave is pretty much up this month, so
if we were still in New Zealand, I'd be going
back to work. But now that we're in Australia, I
haven and started applying for dogs.
Speaker 7 (50:49):
I'm like, smuscle that you got this.
Speaker 6 (50:54):
Remember that's the deal.
Speaker 7 (50:56):
So yeah, very fortunate that he's able to do that.
Speaker 6 (51:00):
So I can be at home with them for as
long as I can, and I hope they remember that
we were just always there for them.
Speaker 7 (51:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, I love it, Taylor. It has been a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Thanks guys, sorry again to make you You've been here
for five hours now.
Speaker 7 (51:14):
Oh my god, it's like keep for me.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
This is much.
Speaker 7 (51:18):
Thank you so much, Thanks guys.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
Matt. That was Turbo.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
She has a lot to say, but she is very
funny and delightful.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I will say she's married bro.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I know that, I know, and he is much bigger
than me.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
How big is he?
Speaker 2 (51:40):
With six' three something like.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
That he's like a gentle. Giant i'm sure he'd be
lovely to us if we met.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
HIM i don't want to find.
Speaker 3 (51:47):
OUT a big shout out To taylor for jumping on our.
Podcast if you would like some more Of taylor and
maybe some more of her husband that happens. Handsome they
have a podcast called The Montoya, podcast which is hilarious if.
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Us Matt, well just quickly on those. Reviews you know.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
WHY i put forward a request to try and get
the reviews to one.
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THOUSAND i think we're seven hundred and fifty.
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ONE, Whoa, OKAY i want to get to one thousand
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Year is it?
Speaker 3 (52:23):
Possible, Potentially, matthew anything is, possible but it's not.
Speaker 1 (52:27):
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if you haven't left a review PLEASE i would love.
It ash would love it as. Well it just reminded
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Shrek you, there. Olga, yeah have you done a social plug?
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Not these Ones. Wednesdays, yeah very.
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Confusing oh, god just a regular episode and if you're,
more you gotta pay for.
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