November 2, 2025 • 62 mins
You know Ryan as one-half of the Toni and Ryan show. He also happens to be a dad to little toddler Mabel!
From the time his partner Bridget squeezed his fake finger a bit too hard during labour to getting in trouble at school for not throwing an eraser... Ryan’s got stories.
He also opens up about being adopted, meeting his biological parents for the first time, and the very risky joke Toni dropped at the family reunion.
Yes, the lasagna really was really good.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Matt Ashton. Do you know what I love?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I know, I know you love football, you love beer,
you love lingerie. I think what else have I missed?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I love sleep, you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Love cross podcasts, integrations, usions, fusions, fusions.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
If you will.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And this week we have a very special guest from
a very popular podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I call him a megastar. He's a megastar, a podcast megastar.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, he's paving the way I would say.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, pioneer.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He has crawled through the world of podcasting, so mere
mortals like us can run.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And walk and and all sorts of different methods of transportation.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm talking about Ryan John. Ryan John, right, does sound
like Ryan John?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Ryan John, not Ryan and John. There's not two guys,
there's only the one.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's Ryan John, who happens to be one half of
Tony and Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's just they are dominating.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
They pump out like five, like a big.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Old like they're wearing leather with whips, just dominating the
podcast world.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you trying to turn me out? You're trying to
make me come dude?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
What love? I've lit up?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
What do we talk about? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We talk about the fact that he has a fake
finger okay, because something happened when he was younger a
sporting incident, and that it was redamaged during the birth
of his child.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We also talk about Ryan's biological mother giving him up
for adoption when he was born. It was several days
later that the hospital requested his biological mum returned to
the hospital to give him cuddle's post surgery.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think this is the first time we've had anyone
on the podcast who speaks about their experience of being adopted.
So this is our first with two doing dads, and
it's the first time that I've been able to have
a deep dive into what it's like growing up knowing
that your parents aren't your biological parents.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And his mum actually gave him up as an ultimate
sacrifice so that he could live a life to his
full potential. And look at him now, I know it's crazy.
She actually left him a letter for him to read
when he was old enough, which is.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Really really sweet. It's an amazing story.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
He also talks about meeting his biological father and will
and connecting with his biological family.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
He continues to have a relationship with them.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ash shall we get into it?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Absolutely, and you like that big boy.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Welcome back to three doting dads. I am Maddie, Jay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ash, and I'm Ryan. Thanks for having me and I
come with a scandal.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Hold, he'll be quick as podcast all my parenting. It's good.
It's the bad and the relabel and we don't give advice.
Scandal hit me.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Before the scandal though. I just want to apologize.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I smell a bit garlicy because I'm trying to kill
a parasite and Matt has been giving a shit about it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So how do you kill a parasite? Gallic really don't
pass this information onto anything.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, I'm back to day one because it came back
so or it never went No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Is this like a medicine alternative? Yeah? Are we conspiracy
adjacent show here? Or are we?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We have on occasions been known to slag off the
medical world, particularly vets.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And rural doctors, but we we.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I got it from TikTok at the remedy that works.
I just went with that and chat GBT backed it up.
So I thought that's two scientific facts, two reliable sources. Sam.
I think Matt' has been at Oh yeah, do you
want him to get better or not.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I was like, when he's weak, like medicine, he
comes in and he's.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Apparently the antibiotics makes you feel way worse. I don't
want anyway, scandal scandal, So I said, is Laura here today?
And what did you say?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
She's at work.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I've come from Life Uncut where I did a show
with Keisha and Brittany and that was it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
She's having an affair, but I'm here.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, but if she's a work and I was
at her work and she wasn't there, then what's the
real fucking story.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, the thing is my wife has about twelve jobs.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It really works out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I'm like, we would really like a new car.
So if you want to get back and do it.
She was working at Tony May her story. She was
there making making rings.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
She still do that regularly.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Her, she designs.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, I called her. She's an answer.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, she's still a ward bottle today. So we called her.
She's rejected our calls. This is getting juicy.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Thank you for bringing this toll right, that's just my
gallic breath.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Also, thank you. We were alerted our listeners.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Ye, who I think I should have crossover?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
This crossover cross over. Now, yeah, Donna as Donna's she
may be a Tapa first and Dota second.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's not it's not about it's just where all. It's
all fine.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
She was a quick Listen today's episode yep from the
twenty sweper market.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Now you guys got half an episode today. Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. You can't buy that kind of advertising.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So the rule is that you can't turn if people
have just had a baby, You can't turn up empty handed.
Do you appreciate that or is that annoying after a
while where you're at after three kids?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And no, you know what, I was just always accept
food and I think if you are going to bring anything,
I think you're always going to have a winner when
you bring food with you, because it's just there's no
better feeling. They're not having to cook from scratching meal.
So thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So we brought a lasagna from Melbourne, flew it up
to Sydney and it has been an ordeal. But Tony
did her famous bechamel sauce that she makes from like scratch.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
What's beamel?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Um?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's a great question. Does anyone can anyone help with that? Yeah?
It doesn't work, but Tony made it from scratch on
the weekend because she was going to knit something. But
then apparently for babies you can't have like big chunky
knitted stuff because their fingers get stuck in it. Yeah,
(06:19):
we'll do a lasagna. And she makes a great lasanna
and she felt bad that she couldn't come up as well,
so she's like, all, I can send my love through lasagna.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The comments about yourself, like Tony.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Is a huge ash fan. I love that. I think
she said a few things on the show, but it's
what she says after the show and regularly it was
like like this will be her scrolling, like she's like,
you know, having lunch tween episodes whatever, and she goes, oh,
jam Pike, she's a huge and I don't like you
gotta take the winds. So I'm sorry Matt that I
(06:54):
don't have any words from Tony to pass on.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I've got everything I need.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Thank you, Tony, I can confirm. And I think I
mentioned before the flight attendant like would not let me
hold the las onion on the flight, so made me
put it in the overhead compartment. I was like, you
have to put it up there, and I was like,
I'm not going to do that. I wouldn't, no, lad no,
because he said, but under the seatond front, they're the rules.
Well he said it's a projectile and he goes, it
could go flying when we take off. You got to
(07:21):
put above. And I was like, and I don't know
if you noticed this, Like Tony wasn't generous with the foil,
like it's a very travel for travel safe for later. Yeah. Yeah,
so like yeah, like you kind of see it coming
out of the sides and whatever, and I was like, she.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Left about at most two centimeters side.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And I was like, I'm not not going to put
it up there for me. I'm not going to put
it up there for all of the other people in
the plane because they're like we came at like business o'clock,
so everyone's got their briefcase and laptop bag. I'm like,
there's going to be whatever the fuck that is the
besha male source is going to be everywhere. And then
I was like I'd said I and it's actually I
think we got on camera, so when I'll go back
(08:02):
and look at the footage, because Lil was filming, we
walk down the aisle when he came up was like,
but then he said put it under the seat in front.
And then so when you take off, obviously the front
goes up and then the lasagna slides back down, and
so we're like, I've got my foot like trying to
hold it down little at one stage, like I probably
looked harrowing from a few rows up because she's got
(08:23):
her head down like trying to hold the thing, but
it ends up her head's in my lap trying and
it was fucking chaos. So I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Do anyone say anything?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Lots You will never be more popular than carrying alasagna
onto a plane because everyone was just all right. If
I had a doll off every time someone went is there.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Enough for all of us?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I would have flown first class to it. So they
loved it. I'm pretty sure the flight attendant at the
first was like, oh, you're allowed to take it to
Sydney and I was like, oh really, and she goes, yeah,
you'll have to leave it with me. And then like
a lot of people were real chatty, and I said,
someone goes, what's that for? And I said, Australia's Golden
couple have had a third child. And then and everyone
(09:07):
kind of went, that's so lovely. Like I was expecting
a bit of like change, but if I saw someone
with a lasagna, I'd be like, are you fucking sick?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's alarm bells?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I just like seriously, So I was kind of
expecting to be that, but genuinely everyone was like, that's
so nah and they thought I made it. It's such good.
I'm like, yes, friends have had a baby, like, oh,
they love that. Like, I'm not going up for any
other reason other than the.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mom is going to be so proud.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, I've heard that this is your mum's.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
This is my mum's behavior.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Passing it on to the next GM, just like if
it was a Carbondar, we're gonna go of it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Who hates lasagna anyone? The time there?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I wasn't a big lasagnian, did you? Was the only
thing I was concerned about is when my daughter Mabel
was born, Like, you know, someone brought lasagna, thank you
so much. The next day someone drops in a lasagna
thanks and after about the eighth lasagnia just go fuck,
I'm pretty over Lazani. And that's what I was concerned.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is a lasagna shortage. I've been waiting since the
birth of thought. People are coming and they have little hampers,
and in those hampers they have some wife and some
you know, like a little teddy, and I was kind
of like looking for the lasagna and I was like,
in amongst the teddies, none here, Like under the napp
is not one lasagna at all. People, I don't know
(10:26):
what's happened. They've gotten spooked.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's the price of the sheets there is.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's the real scanner, for the love of God. So
thank you for being the only lasagna that I've received
since the both the birth of popping.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yea and how are you guys? Because I have one
and it is tough. And then I think do we
speak on the phone like a year and a half
ago and you were like, I think we're gonna have
another one? Yeah, that sounds about right. It was a
real random because we don't like but it was like
a one random call you and you're like, oh, something
about work, and you go, I think we're gonna have
another one, And I was like, you're fucking joking.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, but you know what, like, obviously this is about
you today, Ryan, but obviously, but I'll answer this one question.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You better.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Someone once told me that the jump from one to
two jump to one is the biggest jump of all.
Then one to two is also a big ish but
a lesser jump than the first. From two to three,
there's a lot of jumping going on. Jump with me,
with me, I try to keep it okay, sorry, but
the jump from two to three it's not really just
(11:31):
like an extra It's like it's barely like it's half
a step?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Is it just because you're so frazzled anyway, Like what's different?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, and you're so locked in. Your life is already over.
You've let go of all type of enjoyment outside of
being a parent.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I just sent you on Instagram. It was a video
of a three person child. See that you just you
just put in like it's one seating.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Hey, the three of us go for a cruise and
that the sign is.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But yeah, we're we're doing okay, We're doing okay.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
This has been something that we've been trying to make
it work since like early days of two doting dads.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Oh yeah, lockdown. Well last time, well the first time
you were sick, oh yeah, because I was coming out
here and you were like quick, and it was just
like that was your fault. And then I know we
stopped coming to Sydney because then because you didn't want
to get sick, get sick. Every time I come to Sydney,
it's like for boring meetings and stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, city's pretty like like one big boring meeting compared
to Melbourne. Like especially like you go anywhere in Melbourne
at like any night of.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The week and it's something happening. To Sydney, it's like
lock it down. Well, I'm glad I'm finally here because
it feels right, and I'm also glad to finally meet
someone else who's passed out in the birth suite because
as someone who also lost consciousness, I've always felt alone
and then knowing you're also a pansy make me feel better. Yeah,
(13:01):
I thank you for being here. I didn't do in
the epidural so early on I think I was the same.
It was way early and I'm just like I've never
been good with blood.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, touch and go, like sometimes I'm like sweet, But
in that particular moment, I just remember waking up on
the ground with my legs in the air, and I
had a.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Juice legs in the air and a flannel over my head,
and I was just like, look at this guy. I
thought that'd be nice. What do you mean? But the
staff that April.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
She was being cut open. She just wanted to hold
her husband's hand for support. I spent the whole time
and you're there were three nurses and midwife and' psatrician.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, took photos of me to shame you. The doctor
made fun of me. I assumed when she lean over,
she's it happens all the time, worry. But she was
just like, that's so embarrassing for you. I just like
kept doing what she was doing fair enough.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What was the moment in particular where it made you
pass out?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I do think it was like epidural town or they
were doing something and Bridge was in a lot of pain.
And then I've actually got a fake finger. This finger
isn't real. So see that like little scar down in
the middle of it. So when I played volleyball, I
broke it like ten or twelve times to the point
where it's just like callous and cyst and there wasn't
(14:16):
actually much bones.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
They like replaced it because of the spiking is at
the spik.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Blocking so with the other people spiking because I'm not
that tall. I've just like for years just you know,
and oh and then after ten years they just go,
there's not much left, We're going to have to replace it.
So I've got a bit of my wrist is in
there and a bit of coral yout wrist finger. You've
got wrist finger, Well, they're going toral, yeah, because it
calcifies and kind of like you know regenerates. Did they
(14:41):
tell you where the coral is from a place that
is not struggling with the environmental issues. Yeah, but they
were going to use a bit of my hip. But
then I have a fake hip, and I'm like, if
you want to get some bone out of there, you're
not going to find what's the fake hip from. Also, volleyball,
(15:01):
I landed weird and I've got like like the ball
and socket a bit broke off, so it kept like falling.
So they just put a bit of like plastic on.
And I was like, if you go hunting for bone
bone in my hunting for bone down there, you're not
going to find my space will take it from the anyway,
Bridget was squeezing my hand and so and so the
other hands were hurting and I was just very aware
(15:23):
that like twisting that finger could just like set off
whatever's going on. So I was like really nervous, really,
and she just squeezed so hard because Bridget's strong as fuck.
She's like a trade and so she's just got manhand.
She was a winemaker, so she's actually works hands on
and she like she's climbing up ladders carrying barrels like
she's and she and so when she decides to squeeze
(15:45):
my hand as hard as she can, like it's almost
like she squeezed the soul out of my person. And
that's why I was like, I'm getting a bit lightheaded.
And then yeah, I think it was the epitrool or
they were trying to do that and it wasn't working,
and there was a bit of blood and the squeeze,
and I just was like the roomor's going wider, the
rooms going wider. And then I've just like leant back
and I was like, good night, did you hit the deck?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I landed in a chair, luckily, but I think one
of the nurses could see me going so she made
sure a chair was behind me. So she was like, oh,
this guy's a fucking gone, and then so she'd like
put the chin and then I kind of fell back
and kind of sat in it, and it made it
worse because I feel like, if you fall on the ground,
it's like, oh, well, he's obviously like.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
He's in trouble.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He's in trouble. Yeah, But when you just like, oh,
it's getting to be much for me, might just sit
chair and put it up, and it just yeah. And
so I'm just sitting there like sort of like this.
I don't think I was fully out, but I was
just like like I had seventeen years. All of a sudden,
I hit the deck.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I was like on I was sort of on my
knees anyway in front of April.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Like that, and I just went gone, yeah, it's it,
daint Like, obviously there's someone in there. Your welfare is
who we need to care for at this moment. But
if you hit your head, like I mean a hospital,
so I need and where I need to be.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, that's concussion, yeah, head trauma.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But I'm right, I think you've had too and you're
you've you're done now I've had the snipect me Yeah, yeah,
all right, because I wear one and I think, yeah,
like that's it, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So we're going to come back. Okay, we're gonna We're
just going to jump far forward when you were a youngster. Yes,
and we want to know one thing about you when
you're little.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, what's the most trouble that you ever got in
as a child?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Do you want like cheeky or like what an asshole?
Whatever comes to mind?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, you can answer this way in a way that
you feel fit.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
This doesn't paint me in a positive light that I respect.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We've had people who have murdered animals. We've had people
who have been arrested for stealing.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh, I've been arrested, but that isn't it. I didn't
even consider that. That's a funny one. I've got arrested
for jaywalking and did a night in the tank, but
that's not that's not this one. The most in trouble,
like at school in trouble. Yeah, so I'm like no
good at science, like not my area. Sorry, And so
what do kids do when it's not there? That's when
(18:00):
you start getting silly, because if you're into the subject,
you're into the subject especially and they put a buns and.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Burn open flame on the desk.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Decision yeah. And so if I'm interested or you're good
at it, you'll do it. But it's when I just
don't get it, and so I'm just gonna amuse myself.
So anytime I was in science, I was always like, oh, Ryan,
it's a bit of a troublemaker. And so I got
moved like to the front of you know, like come
sit up the front was like keep an eye on
you and that open flame on your Yeah. And so
(18:30):
I'm sitting in the front row and someone from the
back row has lobbed a rubber and it's hit the
blackboard next to the teacher and she's turned around and
looked at me and just gone Ryan. And first of all,
I never like the fact that I would have utensils
or anything of use is my first defense, because I
just pen if I was lucky, never had a pencil case,
(18:52):
no way. And so I was like and I was like,
you know, I'm a piece of shit. You know, I
don't have stuff to throw, and she just kind of
gave me this look. And then I said, I'm so
embarrassed about this. I said, if I had have thrown it,
I wouldn't have missed. Ah. I made it as if
(19:13):
because I'm a really good throw and she's taken that
as like, oh what you think of me?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, and like saying it now and hearing it, but
like I went to the coordinators and got suspended and stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You little can't yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And when the head guy, mister Pringle's his name, he goes,
you know you said this, and I was like, now
that you say it, I can hear it. But what
I meant was what I meant was, mister Pringle, I'm
a good throw and I was a meeter from her. Yeah,
but who's me? And I said, mister Pringle, you've had me?
You know what? You know I don't have.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I played volleyball, like I'm an athlete, but you.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Know I don't have rubbers and pencil shower. And I
also did give my friend a horseshoe tattoo in the
metal room by heating up a yeah yeah and he yeah.
Kelsy mc goes, oh, don't you think would be cool
if I like put my arm like he had his
arm on it, and I went, I'm like put it
(20:09):
on and he like screamed for thirty seconds and then
he looked at it and he goes, fuck.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, my heel. Is it still permanent.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, his name's kelsy mc so he's got scars all
over him and I don't know which was men. It
was there for a few years full of horses.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What a childhood?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Wow. Yeah, we didn't have a uniform at our school.
I don't know if that makes a lot more sense
after what you've just heard, but no school uniform. I
didn't really wear shoes that much.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So how do you decide what to wear each day?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, that's the thing. Like other people ask that all
the time. That don't but after the third day you
stop kind of giving a fun because it's just normal.
So you just like end up wearing jeans and a
T shirt and whatever. And it was like a pretty
artsy hippie school and so like everyone was just doing
their own thing and like it was fine. I've never
been to school with that uniform.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, we had one high. Yeah, we're always like that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They are yay away from them. I'm from Alpham and
there's two schools. There's Alpham High, which is where i'ment
with no uniform, and then there's Alpham College where if
you like have a kid that like is smart, like
they would go there and if not, they would go
to Alpham. Alpham College is like legit, and often like
go from Eltham. They go, oh really, and I got
(21:20):
not that much.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I didn't let start the train track.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You've spoken about the fact that you are adopted. Yep,
quite a lot. Do you remember when it was that
you were first informed that your first memory of being
told you were adopted.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, so it's like almost a Hollywood thing where like,
you know, like the kid finds out and it's like
this big moment. But the reality is for ninety nine
percent of adoptees is that you just grow up knowing.
And so adoptive parents have asked me like, oh, when
should I tell them? And I might tell them before
they're old enough to understand. It's like when you, oh,
when did you take your first breath? I don't know.
I just started a breath, like it's just so natural.
(21:56):
So for me it was I just always knew. So
that was never like a big reveal or a big
moment because they were telling me before any wondering why yeah, yeah,
and then and we always used to joke about it
all the time. So my mum's like a rat bag
idiot in the nicest way possible, but when she is
an idiot that, well, clearly I'm adopted because I'm not
(22:17):
related to her. It's just a very like natural dialogue
in the house and stuff, and so yeah, it's just
really normal. And like since I've like talked about it
and post online, I've got a lot of dams from
people being like, oh, I thought I was the only one,
but like same, Like it was just really normal. But again,
you watch movies and it's just it's like, you're not
my real mom, Like did you have those moments?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Never, like really never said that once because she is
my mum in my mind. I don't know any different.
And we're like, pretty soon.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Did she clean your room or put you up?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well? I don't think so. It's good to know she
might have thought it, but I think she they had
twelve years of trying to get pregnant. Yeah, so I
think anytime I was a brat, they'd probably go happy
to have you. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but like my
mum and dad got married when they were twenty one,
twenty two, and then they're thirty three thirty four when
(23:13):
I was dropped off. Yeah, and then so how were
you sorry? I was ten weeks old. Wow. So what
happens is every year couples who aren't able to conceive
for whatever reason would like apply and like I don't know,
the health department would like sign you off or go yep,
comfortable house, well good. And so in nineteen eighty seven,
(23:35):
that was a thousand Victorian couples that were willing to adopt,
and there was fifteen babies. And I often think of
what's that movie with Gwyneth Paltrow Starting Doors or whatever.
So that's like a thousand alternative lives that I had
just given. So I actually met someone who was in
(23:56):
my batch, like this other person that's three days older
than me, and he did my will when Mabel was born,
and they asked me about my family history and I
was like, oh, I don't really know medical stuff because
I was adopted. And he's oh me too. It's like,
oh what year, Oh what month? Oh what day? Saint
John Anglican blah blah blah, Broad Meadows, Yeah, holy shit. Yeah,
(24:16):
So he was three days older. The family that adopted
him were like like Italian, and so he's like lived
in this Italian household. He's like really smart, he's a
lawyer now, and I'm like, oh, you could have lived
with my hippie parents in Alphem if it was like
a toss of the coin that day.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
So it's kind of like if you smoke weedn think
about that too hard?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Really, is it still the same like process, you know,
like is there more to it?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I assume there's more to it. And I think now,
and I say this delicately, that if you don't want
the child, it's probably easier to not have it in
the first place. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I thought you were going to say if you if
you get if you adopt the child, and then like
there's a certain like grace period.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Actually, what is it. Really? You can win the oxygen
on Saturday and change your mind till Tuesday. One of
those kids do that in the cooling off periods.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Cooling off with a topic a child, though, actually is
a really good The foster system is now you can
like be a foster parent to take kids on for
like two week periods.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well I was a foster for that first ten weeks.
So maybe that's why I ended up with Mum and dad,
because the foster parents were like, God, this.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Is okay just to try about his personality.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I was with from four days old to ten weeks.
I was with his family and apparently that family had
forty kids through over ten years. Like they were just like,
that's it. Yeah, the parents don't start till ten weeks
because there's the paperwork and the blah blah blah. So
these people just took and you know what a newborn's
like that they're up all special breeder. I don't know
who they are, but like that's great, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's like the patience on those people, and yeah, like
and for what do you imagine how hard it would be
after because you grow an attachment and you get to
know the people are like, oh, really gratitude they actually understand,
like they thy all the gratitude.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
We say instagram much, but they get it. Yeah, we're
just like I'm so grateful. Yeah really not. Mum and
dad get approved, like they go, yep, we've signed off
your approved for a child, so hopefully you get one.
Two years go past, they don't hear anything, and they
get a call on the Thursday, yeah he's good to
pick up tomorrow and their mum goes, I.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Can't do tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I recall the bottom who is this and goes, Okay,
I guess we let's go shopping and buy some stuff.
And then mum was a school teacher, and so she goes, Okay,
mister principal, I'm going to need maternity leave and oh congratulations.
When she's like, I'm leaving right now. Oh my god.
(26:50):
So the principal goes in apparently like mum wasn't there,
but goes into the staff meeting the next day and
goes off Mandy duns having maternity and everyone goes, she
was he to down she was not pregnant. Yeah, and
so just like and I actually met a teacher that
was like at that school when at the time. Yeah,
(27:10):
because when I first talked about adoption, the luck popped
off online and so there's a lot of people going,
oh and she was like I didn't actually get it
until watching this video thirty years later because she just
disappeared one day everyone when pregnant. We all went okay,
so yeah, what about covering up here? Yeah kind of yeah.
And so they get this call and have you got
(27:31):
a cop nut? Have you got stuff nut? What do
they eat? I don't know. He's ten am tomorrow, Doug.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So then I like that style. Yeah, it's crazy to
did they give you.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Like, now that you're older, have they given you any
sort of like what it was like for them you
transitioning into the house and what that.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Moment was like. Well, I think it was just the
because as you guys know, it like the pregnancy is
what nine months, but I can feel like five years,
like the anticipation you just by the end. I mean,
we didn't have to carry the child's so I can
only imagine how hard it is for the mums. But
it gets to that point, not thirty five weeks past.
We just like, can this kid just turn? I'm so
(28:09):
looking forward to meeting them. My wife's really uncomfortable. Yeah,
and he's here tomorrow. Like it's just I think it
was just the shock of like, oh, we've wanted this
for so long and we didn't have much of a
build up. It just happened nice that.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Way though as well.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I guess, yeah, you're just like adapt.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What's it like growing up for yourself? Like what's your
perception of being put up for adoption? Did that weigh
on you in a heavy way or was it just
the norm? And it didn't really?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Nah, because my birth mum wrote a letter that was
like dear Ryan, when you're old enough to understand sort
of thing. And she was from like a really rough area.
It was one of eight kids, and the eight kids
shared like three single beds, like it was a rough
and rough area, drugs crime, and she was like adamant
(28:57):
that she wasn't going to like pass that on to
the next generation. So she was actually twenty eight when
she gave birth to me, and I grew up just
assuming probably like it's probably terrible to say, but I
just like to assume she was like seventeen or you know, yeah, yeah,
But now she was twenty eight and she was going
to night school, and she was like, I'm going to
better myself and if I have a family, they're not
going to be born into this community. They're not going
to have the childhood I had. And she was just
(29:18):
so adamant that, like, no, my child, I don't want
the life that I had for my child. So she
gets accidentally pregnant and she's just like this is the
kind of stuff people from here do. They get accidentally
pregnant and they were going to change the world, and
well now we just struggle on and that just happens
again and again, and she was just so determined that
(29:40):
that was not going to be the case. And so
she was also living in a sharehouse, and she was
just more than others, just like a child needs two parents.
And she didn't know my birth father, and like they
sort of that one time, and she was like, well,
this is not for me. And I think also by
the time she if you realize, like when you're trying,
(30:01):
you're kind of checking. She didn't know she was pregnant
until way into it, and I think it was like
past the point of no return. Yeah, and so she
was like, well, this kid's gonna have to be born.
I don't want them growing up in there. And so
I always go, oh, you've done me this huge favor.
So it wasn't like how could you do this to me?
I was always like thank you for doing that for me,
(30:22):
And so I was never like, never once was I
like what the fuck? And it was like, actually the opposite,
Like she felt a bit guilty afterwards, and a lot
of birth mums feel guilt, And the only reason I
wanted to meet her really was just go like, you
don't need to feel guilty, Like all good, I've like
hit the jackpot over here with my family, Like, I
(30:43):
hope you're go and marry someone, have a family of
your own and kind of forget about me and the
nicest way possible. Do you remember when you got that letter? Yeah,
well again, I was in the drawer always, but I
wasn't old enough to read it, and I'm not actually
very good at reading still, so it actually a few
more years the name, but I've still got it. It's
(31:05):
like a yellow booklet and it's a little ribbon and
it's like dear Ryan. It's called Ryan's Story, and they
kind of said, yeah, you know, my brothers are this tall,
and we back for Collingwood and all this stuff and
kind of yeah, and it was it was pretty nice.
And then she kind of explained like the circumstances, and
I think when you kind of hear that side of
the story, you kind of go, oh, like it's actually
(31:26):
quite selfless. It's not like, yeah, she couldn't be bothered
or she did the calling off period, but the final
like not that we need any evidence, but like, in
terms of being selfless, I actually had surgery when I
was three days old on my hip.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Hip's no good man, Yeah, Hip's no good.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I wonder the same or something. Is that a hip
hernia or not. I don't know. But I came out
of the surgery and they're like, oh, like the baby's
going to be fine, but like he's going to be sore,
and so he just like needs lots of hugs and
cuddles from his family and the nurses like, well, he
doesn't have family yet. So she actually, my birth mother
really came back to the hospital like after doing the
(32:05):
traumatic like believing she like came back and just like
sat in the chair for two days just to like
kind of hold me while I was a bit sore
and tender. And so you're going to go, oh, like
she cared and she was doing the right thing, and
there's no like and I'm like, yeah, you can't be
angry something. It's amazing. Yeah, like the selflessness to come back.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, especially after that, I can't imagine, like I can't
imagine giving up one of my children.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Well yeah, like I always thought that would be really tough,
but I just remember the first hour with Mabel, so
Bridge had a few complications and was off in the theater.
So it's just like the two of us and the
thought of like going, oh, I love you, and like
like I wouldn't be selfless or brave enough, like there'd
be no circumstance, like I just couldn't. Yeah, And I
(32:54):
think when Mabel was born, I was just like, well,
it's sort of like the respect I had for my
birth mother Julie, like ten x almost. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
As an adult, you then went on the quest to
then find your parents. You then got in contact with
your dad, who was in the UK. You then flew
over to meet him. How much were you hoping for
a long term relationship and how much were you happy
for it just to be like a like hey, putting
a face to a name.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah. So I did the ancestry DNA test trying to
find because I never really considered my birth father because
I just knew he was like backpacking and it was
what he didn't even know I existed, so there wasn't
any He didn't make decisions on my behalf. So I
do this ancestry DNA test hoping to find my birth mother, Julie,
who lives in Melbourne and as it turns out, live
(33:42):
three streets from my best mate and just up the
road and worked at a place that I've been to
like like crazy, so there's a chance you might have encountered.
I actually would be like, it's hard to believe I
wouldn't have. So when she she I was gonna say,
shouldn't have dor like she's she's now ass away so
we won't matter. But she worked at Vinnie's in Sydney
(34:05):
Road in Brunswick. Wow. And so I've been to that
vinnie so many times because we love getting a bargain
and got all the dress up paid, so we would
actually go there all the time. And so she volunteered
there and stuff for ages and I'm like, there's no
way I didn't run into it. But so trying to
find her down the street, no chance at all. But
(34:28):
we found some random guy in London, which turned out
to be easier to find, which is just insane. Yeah,
so we did the ancestry gena test and then I
write this letter to Joel and said like I didn't say,
like I think you're my father. I kind of went.
I was stopted they don't know the father my birthda.
His name is Julie. This was my birthday. I think
(34:48):
you worked in Melbourne nine months before that for a
little bit. You know I'm in London next, like, you know,
if you want to grab a coffee by kind because
I didn't want to put the pressure on and make
it feel weird. But I also was like, I'm not
after an explanation. You don't know me anything, And I
think I was more of a like a curiosity and
just like because at the time of life, I've never
met anyone in my biological family. So if we ever beer,
(35:11):
that'd be like the craziest thing that they ever do.
So I send this letter. He's like away for the weekend,
and the neighbor the post. He goes, oh, they away,
give the letter to the neighbor, and the neighbor goes, yeah,
cool mate, and just chucks it in the draw And
so a month later he's looking for an old water
(35:31):
bill opens the drawer and goes, oh, fuck, I got
that letter for Joe. Oh my god. Yeah, And then
so like it was almost that close to not meeting him.
Also because you know, neighbor and this is like such
a tight art thing that I paid for, Like what's
that extra thing you can pay where it like tracks it.
(35:54):
They're like, oh, it's like eight dollars a pen. It's
a peel Off thing. Yeah, but if it's for twelve dollars,
we'll track it. And I was like great, and I
was like I paid an extra four fucking dollars. And
so then like he sends me an email and goes, yeah,
like I think that's me. I hear what you're saying, Like,
let's do a proper test and see. So I did
(36:15):
a few swabs and he did the same, and I
sent it this place in London and then he emailed
me saying, yeah, it's a match. And then that email
went to my jump folder for like a week, and
then I got it and then I was like yeah.
I was like, yeah, I'm in London, shoul we catch
up and went over there and had a coffee and
we had a coffee and we met at ten am
and we're still at the cafe four like six hours later.
(36:37):
Just like if you were also in the cafe, you
would be like, oh, these are like two old mates
catching up like you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It was that sort of natural.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And you're still stay in contact now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, so I've been So I've been to London and
hung out with them three times. Tony we met, we're
in London, last year, and so they oh, you know,
we'll go out for dinner here, and then at the
end of dinner, Joel my birth other goes, I'll pay
for us, and Tony goes, well you missed the first
thirty years, and Joel's wife just goes, my god. And
(37:12):
Joel did find that funny after the feet like he
was like, she's joking. Oh, yeah, it's a joke. But yes,
I've been to London three times there originally from the US.
So I've done a Thanksgiving in New Orleans, Thanksgiving in Austin,
and then in a month, I'm going to Thanksgiving in
I think we're going to Carbo and I'll go back
(37:32):
to Austin for a bit.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
So.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
So he's got two sons who are like my half brothers.
One of them looks like exactly like I did before
I got You guys have the.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Same you said, and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Look the same eyes. We do have the same eyes. Yeah,
I was like, oh, you've got blue eyes and like yeah, yeah,
we like you both got harry chest and like yeah,
you guys both got small dicks, and yeah, that was
very crazy. But we like in compared in my family,
(38:07):
like my mum teacher, dad Trady, all aunties, teachers, nurses, trades,
and I studied finance, which was a bit like like,
no one's really into that. Birth father finance, two brothers
finance account and his brother stockbroker. Like I think you
might have got it from there, but like that was
all these crazy se people got bad hips.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
See this scar.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, I have had a shoulder reconstruction.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
My birth father just taking his shirt off. Yeah, anyone's wondering.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Your pants off? Birth father, same scar, same surgery from
when he played like fort back in the day. So
there's all these like little quirky things and we just
find o how interesting.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So when you were trying to have a kid talk
about six years, Yeah, were you and Bridge ever considering adopting.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, but because I there's a lot of kids born
into like unfortunate circums answers and even still you know
that mums passed away, dad's in jail, like there's people
that are really stuck. And so I think I've always
felt like it was a way of like passing it
on or it was a genuine option, and Bridge was
like open to it, but it was like, oh, but
(39:15):
I'd still like to have our her own child Becau.
She's a real like Bridge had a great career, but
even in the heights of what she was doing in
white making, she was like, I want to be a mum.
I want to have a garden with veggies and make food.
And she's just like a real like soult of the earth,
Like she's not Italian, but like she's an old Italian
Honnor and so that's what she really wanted and that
was really important, and so I think but we did
(39:36):
talk about it and stuff. But when I was in
Western Australia, I kind of was thinking about adoption and
I kind of really understood the concept of it was
only starting to click that some couples just couldn't conceive
because you know, in high school you go to health
class and they're like, if you look at a girl
at a party pregnant and then it's so crazy that
you get to thirty and you go, it's actually really
(39:57):
fucking hard to get pregnant, which is crazy. So I
was like I kind of had this like I know
what I was going through, but I had this like
I can understand that, and I think I want to
like donate sperm is my way of like paying it
forward a little bit, and so there was this website
in Perth, and imagine what's had to have taken place
previously for this to be written on the website. Okay,
(40:20):
there's two women who are looking for a donor. You
don't get to have sex with the girls, That's what
it's says. And I was like, well, obviously, and don't
come on your computer because it doesn't work. I was like, yeah,
obviously they need a mail for that, and so I
was like and then I was like, how many guys
have messaged for them to.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Need to expectations rule number one?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah? Yeah, And then I think that's when I started.
I wasn't with like a new bridget at the time,
but we went like together, and then as we came together,
she was like, I really respect that, but I'd also
like to have our own first. Also, were about to
bust open its scandal. Can you hear someone at the door?
(41:08):
I've been inspired by you, by the way from a fire.
My name is right.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
He's a guest.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I guess guess yeah, you are.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
What he brought.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Guess what he brought on a plane all the way here?
Have one guess? Jeez? Close type of cheese platter, but
it has it was from Melbourne.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Eyes light up.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, yeah, you've been in inspiration with your traveling food
hydriinks over the years, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And I'm so sorry mom, you'll have to get out
of the don't have to defend yourself. It's okay. I'm
so sorry. We'll have to banish. So then for six years?
What is that like? This is coming from Ashley myself.
(41:53):
We both were very fortunate and we've got our wives
pregnant quickly. But what's it like for yourself having to
go through that six year wait?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Hoping hoping. Yeah. We also move for work a few times,
so we were in Canberra, then we moved to Perth
and then we moved back. But like when you're moving
across the country, you start you're doing the like, oh, well,
hang on, do we just take a break real quick
because if we're about to move, and then the support
like my mum's not there to and so you're kind
of like stopping and starting and it's not really working.
And then you kind of because Bridge's career was going
(42:24):
really well and radio is going alright for me, we're like, oh,
things are going really well. Maybe it's not the worst
thing if like there wasn't that urgency right and start,
and so you kind of just assume, oh, you know,
not this month, maybe next month, and then oh, we're
moving at the end of the year. We'll wait till then.
And then Bridget gets to that age where she is
a geriatric, which is written on all the forms. What Yeah,
(42:50):
a geriatric? What when you're over thirty five? All of
the forms they did. Laura cop that as well.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah she was because we were third just
thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Now did I use that to mock people older than me? Yeah,
so now I'm joking you are. Yeah, yeah, so I
need to change that. But even seeing that word on
forms is just so like yeah, but and yeah. Then
we did IVF. Few rounds didn't quite work. And it
was also during lockdown, which just made like logistically really
(43:22):
because we're in Melbourne as well by this stage you
couldn't really go anywhere, you couldn't do anything. When I
had to give a sperm sample, I wasn't allowed into
the hospital. Do it out the front. Well, They're like,
you bring it in from out the front. Well, they
actually because I was like off in the car park,
you've got forty minutes from the time when you produce
(43:45):
to when you have to because less then it goes
cold or whatever and you can't do it there. So
you start thinking, like, am I jerking about the front?
What am I doing? I didn't have a car at
the time, so I actually, well, I got an uber
and I had the cup in my jacket. You yeah,
And so I was.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Hang on a second, so have you have you pre
booked the uber or Okay?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
So yeah, let me through which apps open at which time?
So I'm on air at Kiss on the radio at nine.
My start on air and it's just me the solo
shift at nine at.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Then yeah, coming up, here's me.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
The clinic opens at eight and I'm on air at nine.
So I'm like, there's this sort of a small window
to get it done. And so Tony Lodge goes, I
know what I'll do. I'll text Ryan every two minutes
from seven forty to eight o'clock and just she's like
taking selfies and smiling. She's like does this help? Does
this help? I'm made it real awkward because she was
(44:51):
like because I told him, like, I'm gonna have to
run into there, I do that and come back and
she's like, okay. So then I get an Uber and
I kind of don't hate the Uber driver of this
because if you're an Uber driver and this person goes,
can we get to the hospital as soon as possible?
He goes, is everything okay? You know, like, is everything fine?
(45:13):
I go it's actually fine? And he goes which entrance
and I go the one here and he goes, oh,
what's going on? And he's asking all these questions.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
And I'm like, and You've got a bucket of come
on his shirt.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I've got a bucket of com fully a car. There's
perspiration on my forehead still, and I'm like, normally confident,
is I guess? But like, I'm so sheepish in this moment.
I'm just so embarrassed and awkward. And also I have
to rock up to reception. Oh where do I put
the you know? So I'm just so so you're in
(45:45):
an uber with a bucket of cum.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
And so who record? How much was it?
Speaker 1 (45:52):
How many meals well do they need? Or how many
in the cup? I tell you what's really like humbling.
He's like, when I think they should make the cup
was so wide that it doesn't fill up and you
just feel like, is that all love got to?
Speaker 2 (46:09):
It's a thin pancake.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I want to start a family, and this is what
I'm Yeah, I need a cash proent net. Yeah, it's
just so awkward. And then you walk in there and
I don't know why this makes it worse, but the
girl behind the counter is the hottest girl you've ever
seen in your and you just go, of course it is.
And it's just so awkward. And I told the uber driver,
(46:32):
I'm like, I got to get back to kiss thread.
Can you wait out the front? And he's like, how
long are you going to be? And then I think
I think he's realized, oh it's a sperm donation place,
and he doesn't know it's in my pocket. So when
I go, wait right here, I'm not going to be long,
He's like, am I waiting for this guy to go?
I've just like kept the car running out the front,
(46:54):
keep the Yeah. I talked about this on our podcast
and because people in Melbourne were like, oh, same, but
we don't live within forty minutes. So this lady, she's
from Melton, which is probably forty minutes away, and so
she was driving the car and her husband was jerking
in the in the backseat coming down the Western Highway.
(47:15):
And now if you heard someone jerking off and you
heard faster, faster, slower, slower, what are you expecting the
accelerator correct, Because he's like, there's a person right next
to me, So he's like, can you just speed up
a little bit so they're not right there? I not
slow down his poot. He's trying to concentrate on that
(47:35):
and do it.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
And then is that a legal Can you masturbate in
the car? No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
If you're a passenger, you can.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You're still you're a public you're in a car, it's
a private vehicle.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
It's a private vehicle.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
If you're in a taxi, you probably can't do that. Okay,
let's get a list of wherein where you can.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
If anyone's listening who works in law police.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
That's your personal computer, Jess, don't google it, yeah, because
your algorithm will be fucked. But yeah, fun times I
buy all really And then another time I did get
to go in. But I think that's worse because the
there is never less eye contact than when you're in
the waiting room. I thought you're gonna say you do
it in front of them, but there's seven other guys
(48:13):
in the waiting room and you're just sitting their way
and you all know watching. Yeah, and then you finish
and you go sit back down and there sort.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Of everyone's grinning.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
He's the sweatiest. It's really awkward. But yeah, I think
COVID made it weird. Bridget getting older like sort of
put the pressure on a little bit. And then the
strangest thing because like with you do you do a
pregnancy test with? Is that how you guys found out?
You know, the partner comes out from the bathroom with
the stick.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
And I think one of the times Laura had some.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
This reminds me of that story. I was like, we
thought we'd dip it in the toilet.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
We were like they like just win the toilet and like,
like you do like stirring some punch.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
That's a fair question, Like you idiots. They should teach
that in school. But we get told, oh, yeah, will
call you at two forty seven on Tuesday or you know,
just or we get an email because we tried a
few times once, wasn't it. It's just the least romantic.
I'm like, this is a beautiful moment. Check your Gmail.
(49:13):
You know, it's just junk. Yeah, and even we found
out the gender from an email. Oh wow. And it's
really like because you know, it's going to be this
moment and we're going to embrace and it's going to
be huge in we're life.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
What's the dialogue? How are they writing these emails?
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Is it like just a big girl? Yeah, bridge got it.
It's actually a very unromantic. It's very scientific. Oh, here's
the print out of your DNA and the numbers and
the this and the that, and the blood says this,
and the blood set and it's almost like if the
(49:49):
blood level of this test is above that, it means
you're pregnant. But like you're getting a print out of
shit that's all foreign. Like like when I.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Got my OP which is what we get when we
finish school, and it's number between one and twenty five.
Ryan's just coming up along.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
But we thought of your school. Yeah, it's like one.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
I remember like trying to scan the letter, trying to
find out tell me.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
What it is. Yeah, the letter itself was a test. Yeah,
you know what did you get?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I got like a twenty one out of the legend.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Is that good? Is that good.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Twenty five is the worst.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
One of you. Here I am sitting next to a
fucking genius. Where'd you go to school? Which time? High school?
The first time? Some polls? So would you get an
Nenter score or you're out of twenty five?
Speaker 5 (50:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
No, I left school on was fifteen. It never made
it a score. Is twenty one more than you?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, yep. Look I got life lessons? So true.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
So what was it like then, jumping into the deep
end of parenthood? You think to you swim?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think I did a pretty good job at the
start Bridge bridges out of action for six weeks after
the birth, and so it was just like she couldn't
really move, butudn't do much. So I was running around
doing a lot, doing a lot. She was still doing
way more than me. But I kind of did the
night shift.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
You can always hold over them that you can't drive
at that time, like, well, I.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Guess I'll love to Maybel was born just before or
the twenty twenty three Ashes cricket which was in England
that started at ten pm every night, and so that's
so I said, I did the night shift and this
is like so simple, But the whole time we were
trying to get pregnant. I was just Bridges trying to
(51:41):
get pregnant or just sitting. I just kept thinking, one day,
I'm going to sit on the couch, I'm going to
have our dog Broun on my legs, Mabel on my chest,
the fire on, and just lay there and go, this.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Is it, and then the cricket's on, and then you go,
fuck that ashes a coming on.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
And so every night we had the and we just
moved into our house, which I guess now is like
our forever house a few months earlier, and my home
Bridge is like, the other thing I really want is
a bath. That's my like my thing, and I was like, great,
I really want a fireplace and whatever the rest of
the house is, We'll figure that out. But that was
our thing. And so I just remember. And it wasn't
just once, it was every night for months on end.
(52:22):
I'm like I'm laying here, you know, you know they're
kind of cooing and just like really slinging when they're
not screaming. Yeah, the dog who gets along really well
with like well, nervous about that. You know, you're not
supposed to leave a dog and a kid in the
same room. Oh yeah, you can't separate the my dog
and Mabel. They are best friends, that's concerning. So I'm
sitting there bronze on my lap, Mabel's like on my chest,
(52:44):
cooing the fires on, and I was just like, I've
done it, this is this is the best. And so
as like not as much sleep and all that stuff,
it was just like the best. I also wasn't working
because ton and I had like gone out on our own.
So Tony was really like we could be flexible, Whereas
if I had a job, like when I was working
(53:06):
at Kiss, like besides jerking it that morning, it's pretty like,
oh cool, Well you start at nine, so there's no flexibility.
So I don't know how people do breakfast radio with
a kid. That would just be insane. But yeah, I
don't know. I guess I was pretty lucky with the
flexibility if we win that action serious, I was a draw,
(53:29):
but we were a champion, so we retained. That's right.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Not to bring up the adoption thing, please again, sorry
to Kip reminding you that's right.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Did that have any impact on the way that your parent.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
A little bit? I think? I so before that, the
one thing that's like affected my life is because my
birthma made a huge sacrifice for me. I felt like
a lot of pressure to like have a good life
whatever that means to kind of like, well, you made
this sacrifice for me. The least I can do is
like do a really good job of it. And so
(54:07):
I kind of felt pressure for that. And so a
big word for me is like pride, Like I want
to do stuff I'm proud of. When I'm old, I
want to look back and think, oh, I'm proud of
the things I've done. And then I hope my birth
mum can be proud of the things I've achieved. And
so that's like a big thing for me. And so
ye make me cry. Yeah. But so with Mabel, I
tell her every day like how proud I am. But
(54:30):
I actually, you know, like it's going to lose meaning,
like as like people think, oh that one day Dad
sat me down and said, I'm so proud of you, sir.
But I say it all the time, like five times
a day. And so by the time she's fifteen, should
have look but I like really take like you take
bright in it. I take pride in telling her how
proud I am when even when it's really small, i'ms are,
(54:52):
I'm really proud, that was really old, that was really kind.
You're sharing your toys that I'm really proud of you
for that.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
It could be your thing that you don't know that
you don't know how she's going to take it in
fifty your time, which just might be shut up and
be like, well that's our thing.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, if we're proud of each other, I can.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Tell you from personal experience, you never get fed up
or sick of hearing someone say you're doing a really
good job, no matter who it comes from, whether it's
my mum, whether it's law or my wife, if it's
someone at work. As rarely says it to me, I
say it all the time. You don't.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I say it to my screen about you a fair
bit ash thank you. Should put that in the DMS moment,
I think, is.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
It is something you can say it until you're black
and doing the face, and I think there is absolutely
no I mean psychologists, especially.
Speaker 7 (55:34):
Like I mean when when Maybe gets a little bit
older and she's up and running around and she's starting
to establish hobbies, and then she does really good, like
I know with Oscar when he does something and you
can see right on his face.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yea, Like I without having to even say, I just
feel it, you know what I mean. And I know
he can feel that. I can feel it too. Yeah,
what's always doing at the moment, that's like, gives you
a real life job like ju jitsu. Right, Oh, that's
sick shit.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Out of other kids.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
And he's an absolute weapon and he doesn't know it.
But when when when push comes to shovel the time
to fight another kid, the other kids shipping himself because
I was taken down like a bag.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And I'm like, as a joke, I tried to grab him,
he tried to kidnap him.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
I tried to grab him, and the kid fucking fly
kicked me in the.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Face and I was like, and then he dude a
trade six year people up. Yeah, yeah, he's like a
spider monkey. But when he when he has that good
class and he's.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
Like he's like a fucking whale on two kids in
their dad, I'm like, yeah, I'm proud of that, and
that's always going to be there because he'll probably move
on from that and find a new hobby.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Or when he catches the foot.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
If you feel it, especially like if you you've got
your kid and your kids, Like if dad's proud of me,
I'm proud of me.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
One thing I've liked so me maybole do swimming lessons
at the moment, that's our on a Saturday morning with
do swimming lessons and we go get a coffee. But
one line that I like to use because I don't
want to also be like the parent that like we've
all seen those really crazy overbearing especially fathers that are
like you have to win some love it, yeah, just
saying like I love watching you do that, like they
(57:19):
just know that I'm out. So when she gets out
of the pool, like I just love seeing you swimming.
It like sometimes she'll have a really good lesson and
sometimes you know she's a bit shy and doesn't work,
but I just I love seeing you and she just goes, oh,
dad loves seeing me have a go yeah, and even
her hearing Dad loves seeing you do that, Like you
can kind of see it in her go oh great totally.
And so when she gets older for sport and stuff,
(57:41):
I'm really trying to remind myself, like I love watching
you do that, is that it might be like I'm
glad you won or if you lost, you shouldn't have
done this. It's like, no, I just love watching your play.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, Miley's trying to learn to write a black at
the moment and she's absolutely useless. Like the moment you
let go, she falls over instantly. That's like April and
she was like, Dad do I's sorry, that's your wife.
She's like, did I do good? And I said, honey,
You're doing amazing. That's the best I've ever seen. Wasn't
but she was like she was so happy to hear
(58:13):
you say that.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
But she like having fun trying and falling over and stuff. Yeah, yea, yeah,
yeah yeah. And then I just love saying you having
fun out here total, you know, and then you don't
have to lie. That's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
When Mabel is older and she's no longer living with you,
what is the one thing you'd want her to remember
about the house she grew up in.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
That's a great question, a simple question that I've never
thought of. Well, Like I said, Bridget's like a real
nono type, like we've got we've got this huge veggie garden,
We're going to get chickens. Mabel has this Do you
guys have that little thing at the bench where they
stand at the kitchen bench and like.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
I know, I never got done, but they're so good.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
I throw it out annoyed out of me. It's so good.
But like Mabel loves helping, like in the kitchen. And
I feel like if she grows up and knows that, like, oh,
Mum and dad love each other. I love me and
we're always like cooking food, we're in the garden. It's
just like a really calm, peaceful, healthy kind of player.
I don't know, like that might seem like overly simplistic,
(59:17):
but like I just feel like if she grows up
and has like a pretty wholesome because you know, you're
always fighting the screens and it's a crazy word out there,
but I think if she remembers home, it's like we
always had like really great food and you know, we
always hung out together. And I always make a point
of being like Maybel, who does dad love And she'll go,
you dad loves mart. I'm just really making sure that
(59:38):
she knows that mom and dad love each other. Yeah,
So I feel like if she's like, oh, yeah, like
if she think, what was your dad, Like, Oh, he
just loved mom so much and he just loved me
like that would be really cool if that was what
she remembers.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
All memory stuff. Yeah, I did have one more question,
which I don't know if this is going to make sense,
but someone submitted this on our Instagram. Yeah I think
I'm doing this, remember it correctly. They want to know what.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Sauce you like? What sauce?
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah? Does that make any sense at all? Okay, but
someone just said, well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Horn Day sauce is the greatest sauce in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Can you just double check the two doting dads.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
And she's obviously got a lot of quality comments and
questions coming through the box. It could be Tony's famous,
but maybe it's the besh of male sauce.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I thought you were going to be like, oh, like
this is such a like in joy Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Ship was that Donna again?
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I know. And to finish this chat, smoky.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Barbecue, Ryan, It's been a pleasure, take a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
And that lasagna was out of the fridge for a while,
so I'll just leave that up to you to decide
what I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
To get poisoning.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I'll let you know either way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
If you could send that tray back next time. We
thank you mate, ash. Look.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
At the time of recording this outro, I will admit
that I have eaten the lasagna. It fed the family,
my children. My kids don't like lasagna. That was wrong,
so I tried to give it to the kids. They
weren't too keen. Laura did have it on the first
night of it being cooked. She was a little bit
wary about how long it would be safe to eat,
(01:01:25):
considering that it traveled into state unfrozen on an airplane.
It was a long time in transit, not being refrigerated,
so she was like, look, after night one, I'm out.
I continued to eat the lasagna for three or four
days until Laura was like, I'm throwing that fucking thing out.
Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Where's the dish? She threw that out too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I've kept the dish. My mum was like, should we
return it, post it back. I'm like, I'm sure you
could just order one off Amazon and it'd be the
same price as what it costs to send it to Melbourne.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Make sure you wrap it in newspaper, put it in
a nice box, and send it back.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Shut up, mother, should.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
We clean it first?
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Nah? But if you enjoyed this episode as much as
I enjoyed dolasagna. Please give us a review. That's all
I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Five stars, Share with a friend if you like, or
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Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
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the people who make Lasagnas would say, adios. Two Doting
(01:02:41):
Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia
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Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
We pay our respects to their elders past and present
and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Island
the people's today
Matt Ashton. Do you know what I love?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I know, I know you love football, you love beer,
you love lingerie. I think what else have I missed?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I love sleep, you.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Love cross podcasts, integrations, usions, fusions, fusions.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
If you will.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
And this week we have a very special guest from
a very popular podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
I call him a megastar. He's a megastar, a podcast megastar.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Yeah, he's paving the way I would say.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Yeah, pioneer.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
I love this.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
He has crawled through the world of podcasting, so mere
mortals like us can run.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
And walk and and all sorts of different methods of transportation.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
I'm talking about Ryan John. Ryan John, right, does sound
like Ryan John?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Ryan John, not Ryan and John. There's not two guys,
there's only the one.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's Ryan John, who happens to be one half of
Tony and Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's just they are dominating.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
They pump out like five, like a big.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Old like they're wearing leather with whips, just dominating the
podcast world.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Are you trying to turn me out? You're trying to
make me come dude?
Speaker 4 (01:09):
What love? I've lit up?
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
What do we talk about? Man?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
We talk about the fact that he has a fake
finger okay, because something happened when he was younger a
sporting incident, and that it was redamaged during the birth
of his child.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We also talk about Ryan's biological mother giving him up
for adoption when he was born. It was several days
later that the hospital requested his biological mum returned to
the hospital to give him cuddle's post surgery.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think this is the first time we've had anyone
on the podcast who speaks about their experience of being adopted.
So this is our first with two doing dads, and
it's the first time that I've been able to have
a deep dive into what it's like growing up knowing
that your parents aren't your biological parents.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And his mum actually gave him up as an ultimate
sacrifice so that he could live a life to his
full potential. And look at him now, I know it's crazy.
She actually left him a letter for him to read
when he was old enough, which is.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Really really sweet. It's an amazing story.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
He also talks about meeting his biological father and will
and connecting with his biological family.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
He continues to have a relationship with them.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Ash shall we get into it?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Absolutely, and you like that big boy.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Welcome back to three doting dads. I am Maddie, Jay, I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Ash, and I'm Ryan. Thanks for having me and I
come with a scandal.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Hold, he'll be quick as podcast all my parenting. It's good.
It's the bad and the relabel and we don't give advice.
Scandal hit me.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Before the scandal though. I just want to apologize.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
I smell a bit garlicy because I'm trying to kill
a parasite and Matt has been giving a shit about it.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
So how do you kill a parasite? Gallic really don't
pass this information onto anything.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, I'm back to day one because it came back
so or it never went No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Is this like a medicine alternative? Yeah? Are we conspiracy
adjacent show here? Or are we?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We have on occasions been known to slag off the
medical world, particularly vets.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
And rural doctors, but we we.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I got it from TikTok at the remedy that works.
I just went with that and chat GBT backed it up.
So I thought that's two scientific facts, two reliable sources. Sam.
I think Matt' has been at Oh yeah, do you
want him to get better or not.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I was like, when he's weak, like medicine, he
comes in and he's.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Apparently the antibiotics makes you feel way worse. I don't
want anyway, scandal scandal, So I said, is Laura here today?
And what did you say?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
She's at work.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
I've come from Life Uncut where I did a show
with Keisha and Brittany and that was it.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
She's having an affair, but I'm here.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
I mean, but if she's a work and I was
at her work and she wasn't there, then what's the
real fucking story.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Well, the thing is my wife has about twelve jobs.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
It really works out. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I'm like, we would really like a new car.
So if you want to get back and do it.
She was working at Tony May her story. She was
there making making rings.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
She still do that regularly.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Her, she designs.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Yeah, I called her. She's an answer.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, she's still a ward bottle today. So we called her.
She's rejected our calls. This is getting juicy.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Thank you for bringing this toll right, that's just my
gallic breath.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Also, thank you. We were alerted our listeners.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Ye, who I think I should have crossover?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
This crossover cross over. Now, yeah, Donna as Donna's she
may be a Tapa first and Dota second.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's not it's not about it's just where all. It's
all fine.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
She was a quick Listen today's episode yep from the
twenty sweper market.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Now you guys got half an episode today. Wow?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. You can't buy that kind of advertising.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
So the rule is that you can't turn if people
have just had a baby, You can't turn up empty handed.
Do you appreciate that or is that annoying after a
while where you're at after three kids?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And no, you know what, I was just always accept
food and I think if you are going to bring anything,
I think you're always going to have a winner when
you bring food with you, because it's just there's no
better feeling. They're not having to cook from scratching meal.
So thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So we brought a lasagna from Melbourne, flew it up
to Sydney and it has been an ordeal. But Tony
did her famous bechamel sauce that she makes from like scratch.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
What's beamel?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Um?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That's a great question. Does anyone can anyone help with that? Yeah?
It doesn't work, but Tony made it from scratch on
the weekend because she was going to knit something. But
then apparently for babies you can't have like big chunky
knitted stuff because their fingers get stuck in it. Yeah,
(06:19):
we'll do a lasagna. And she makes a great lasanna
and she felt bad that she couldn't come up as well,
so she's like, all, I can send my love through lasagna.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
The comments about yourself, like Tony.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Is a huge ash fan. I love that. I think
she said a few things on the show, but it's
what she says after the show and regularly it was
like like this will be her scrolling, like she's like,
you know, having lunch tween episodes whatever, and she goes, oh,
jam Pike, she's a huge and I don't like you
gotta take the winds. So I'm sorry Matt that I
(06:54):
don't have any words from Tony to pass on.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I've got everything I need.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Thank you, Tony, I can confirm. And I think I
mentioned before the flight attendant like would not let me
hold the las onion on the flight, so made me
put it in the overhead compartment. I was like, you
have to put it up there, and I was like,
I'm not going to do that. I wouldn't, no, lad no,
because he said, but under the seatond front, they're the rules.
Well he said it's a projectile and he goes, it
could go flying when we take off. You got to
(07:21):
put above. And I was like, and I don't know
if you noticed this, Like Tony wasn't generous with the foil,
like it's a very travel for travel safe for later. Yeah. Yeah,
so like yeah, like you kind of see it coming
out of the sides and whatever, and I was like, she.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Left about at most two centimeters side.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
And I was like, I'm not not going to put
it up there for me. I'm not going to put
it up there for all of the other people in
the plane because they're like we came at like business o'clock,
so everyone's got their briefcase and laptop bag. I'm like,
there's going to be whatever the fuck that is the
besha male source is going to be everywhere. And then
I was like I'd said I and it's actually I
think we got on camera, so when I'll go back
(08:02):
and look at the footage, because Lil was filming, we
walk down the aisle when he came up was like,
but then he said put it under the seat in front.
And then so when you take off, obviously the front
goes up and then the lasagna slides back down, and
so we're like, I've got my foot like trying to
hold it down little at one stage, like I probably
looked harrowing from a few rows up because she's got
(08:23):
her head down like trying to hold the thing, but
it ends up her head's in my lap trying and
it was fucking chaos. So I hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Do anyone say anything?
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Lots You will never be more popular than carrying alasagna
onto a plane because everyone was just all right. If
I had a doll off every time someone went is there.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Enough for all of us?
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I would have flown first class to it. So they
loved it. I'm pretty sure the flight attendant at the
first was like, oh, you're allowed to take it to
Sydney and I was like, oh really, and she goes, yeah,
you'll have to leave it with me. And then like
a lot of people were real chatty, and I said,
someone goes, what's that for? And I said, Australia's Golden
couple have had a third child. And then and everyone
(09:07):
kind of went, that's so lovely. Like I was expecting
a bit of like change, but if I saw someone
with a lasagna, I'd be like, are you fucking sick?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That's alarm bells?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, I just like seriously, So I was kind of
expecting to be that, but genuinely everyone was like, that's
so nah and they thought I made it. It's such good.
I'm like, yes, friends have had a baby, like, oh,
they love that. Like, I'm not going up for any
other reason other than the.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Mom is going to be so proud.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, I've heard that this is your mum's.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
This is my mum's behavior.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Passing it on to the next GM, just like if
it was a Carbondar, we're gonna go of it.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Who hates lasagna anyone? The time there?
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I wasn't a big lasagnian, did you? Was the only
thing I was concerned about is when my daughter Mabel
was born, Like, you know, someone brought lasagna, thank you
so much. The next day someone drops in a lasagna
thanks and after about the eighth lasagnia just go fuck,
I'm pretty over Lazani. And that's what I was concerned.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
It is a lasagna shortage. I've been waiting since the
birth of thought. People are coming and they have little hampers,
and in those hampers they have some wife and some
you know, like a little teddy, and I was kind
of like looking for the lasagna and I was like,
in amongst the teddies, none here, Like under the napp
is not one lasagna at all. People, I don't know
(10:26):
what's happened. They've gotten spooked.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
It's the price of the sheets there is.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
That's the real scanner, for the love of God. So
thank you for being the only lasagna that I've received
since the both the birth of popping.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yea and how are you guys? Because I have one
and it is tough. And then I think do we
speak on the phone like a year and a half
ago and you were like, I think we're gonna have
another one? Yeah, that sounds about right. It was a
real random because we don't like but it was like
a one random call you and you're like, oh, something
about work, and you go, I think we're gonna have
another one, And I was like, you're fucking joking.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, but you know what, like, obviously this is about
you today, Ryan, but obviously, but I'll answer this one question.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
You better.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Someone once told me that the jump from one to
two jump to one is the biggest jump of all.
Then one to two is also a big ish but
a lesser jump than the first. From two to three,
there's a lot of jumping going on. Jump with me,
with me, I try to keep it okay, sorry, but
the jump from two to three it's not really just
(11:31):
like an extra It's like it's barely like it's half
a step?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Is it just because you're so frazzled anyway, Like what's different?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, and you're so locked in. Your life is already over.
You've let go of all type of enjoyment outside of
being a parent.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
I just sent you on Instagram. It was a video
of a three person child. See that you just you
just put in like it's one seating.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Hey, the three of us go for a cruise and
that the sign is.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
But yeah, we're we're doing okay, We're doing okay.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
It is.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
This has been something that we've been trying to make
it work since like early days of two doting dads.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Oh yeah, lockdown. Well last time, well the first time
you were sick, oh yeah, because I was coming out
here and you were like quick, and it was just
like that was your fault. And then I know we
stopped coming to Sydney because then because you didn't want
to get sick, get sick. Every time I come to Sydney,
it's like for boring meetings and stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, city's pretty like like one big boring meeting compared
to Melbourne. Like especially like you go anywhere in Melbourne
at like any night of.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
The week and it's something happening. To Sydney, it's like
lock it down. Well, I'm glad I'm finally here because
it feels right, and I'm also glad to finally meet
someone else who's passed out in the birth suite because
as someone who also lost consciousness, I've always felt alone
and then knowing you're also a pansy make me feel better. Yeah,
(13:01):
I thank you for being here. I didn't do in
the epidural so early on I think I was the same.
It was way early and I'm just like I've never
been good with blood.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Yeah, touch and go, like sometimes I'm like sweet, But
in that particular moment, I just remember waking up on
the ground with my legs in the air, and I
had a.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Juice legs in the air and a flannel over my head,
and I was just like, look at this guy. I
thought that'd be nice. What do you mean? But the
staff that April.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
She was being cut open. She just wanted to hold
her husband's hand for support. I spent the whole time
and you're there were three nurses and midwife and' psatrician.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, took photos of me to shame you. The doctor
made fun of me. I assumed when she lean over,
she's it happens all the time, worry. But she was
just like, that's so embarrassing for you. I just like
kept doing what she was doing fair enough.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
What was the moment in particular where it made you
pass out?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I do think it was like epidural town or they
were doing something and Bridge was in a lot of pain.
And then I've actually got a fake finger. This finger
isn't real. So see that like little scar down in
the middle of it. So when I played volleyball, I
broke it like ten or twelve times to the point
where it's just like callous and cyst and there wasn't
(14:16):
actually much bones.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
They like replaced it because of the spiking is at
the spik.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Blocking so with the other people spiking because I'm not
that tall. I've just like for years just you know,
and oh and then after ten years they just go,
there's not much left, We're going to have to replace it.
So I've got a bit of my wrist is in
there and a bit of coral yout wrist finger. You've
got wrist finger, Well, they're going toral, yeah, because it
calcifies and kind of like you know regenerates. Did they
(14:41):
tell you where the coral is from a place that
is not struggling with the environmental issues. Yeah, but they
were going to use a bit of my hip. But
then I have a fake hip, and I'm like, if
you want to get some bone out of there, you're
not going to find what's the fake hip from. Also, volleyball,
(15:01):
I landed weird and I've got like like the ball
and socket a bit broke off, so it kept like falling.
So they just put a bit of like plastic on.
And I was like, if you go hunting for bone
bone in my hunting for bone down there, you're not
going to find my space will take it from the anyway,
Bridget was squeezing my hand and so and so the
other hands were hurting and I was just very aware
(15:23):
that like twisting that finger could just like set off
whatever's going on. So I was like really nervous, really,
and she just squeezed so hard because Bridget's strong as fuck.
She's like a trade and so she's just got manhand.
She was a winemaker, so she's actually works hands on
and she like she's climbing up ladders carrying barrels like
she's and she and so when she decides to squeeze
(15:45):
my hand as hard as she can, like it's almost
like she squeezed the soul out of my person. And
that's why I was like, I'm getting a bit lightheaded.
And then yeah, I think it was the epitrool or
they were trying to do that and it wasn't working,
and there was a bit of blood and the squeeze,
and I just was like the roomor's going wider, the
rooms going wider. And then I've just like leant back
and I was like, good night, did you hit the deck?
Speaker 3 (16:06):
No?
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I landed in a chair, luckily, but I think one
of the nurses could see me going so she made
sure a chair was behind me. So she was like, oh,
this guy's a fucking gone, and then so she'd like
put the chin and then I kind of fell back
and kind of sat in it, and it made it
worse because I feel like, if you fall on the ground,
it's like, oh, well, he's obviously like.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
He's in trouble.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
He's in trouble. Yeah, But when you just like, oh,
it's getting to be much for me, might just sit
chair and put it up, and it just yeah. And
so I'm just sitting there like sort of like this.
I don't think I was fully out, but I was
just like like I had seventeen years. All of a sudden,
I hit the deck.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I was like on I was sort of on my
knees anyway in front of April.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Like that, and I just went gone, yeah, it's it,
daint Like, obviously there's someone in there. Your welfare is
who we need to care for at this moment. But
if you hit your head, like I mean a hospital,
so I need and where I need to be.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Yeah, that's concussion, yeah, head trauma.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
But I'm right, I think you've had too and you're
you've you're done now I've had the snipect me Yeah, yeah,
all right, because I wear one and I think, yeah,
like that's it, I think.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
So we're going to come back. Okay, we're gonna We're
just going to jump far forward when you were a youngster. Yes,
and we want to know one thing about you when
you're little.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah, what's the most trouble that you ever got in
as a child?
Speaker 1 (17:23):
Do you want like cheeky or like what an asshole?
Whatever comes to mind?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, you can answer this way in a way that
you feel fit.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
This doesn't paint me in a positive light that I respect.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
We've had people who have murdered animals. We've had people
who have been arrested for stealing.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh, I've been arrested, but that isn't it. I didn't
even consider that. That's a funny one. I've got arrested
for jaywalking and did a night in the tank, but
that's not that's not this one. The most in trouble,
like at school in trouble. Yeah, so I'm like no
good at science, like not my area. Sorry, And so
what do kids do when it's not there? That's when
(18:00):
you start getting silly, because if you're into the subject,
you're into the subject especially and they put a buns and.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Burn open flame on the desk.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Decision yeah. And so if I'm interested or you're good
at it, you'll do it. But it's when I just
don't get it, and so I'm just gonna amuse myself.
So anytime I was in science, I was always like, oh, Ryan,
it's a bit of a troublemaker. And so I got
moved like to the front of you know, like come
sit up the front was like keep an eye on
you and that open flame on your Yeah. And so
(18:30):
I'm sitting in the front row and someone from the
back row has lobbed a rubber and it's hit the
blackboard next to the teacher and she's turned around and
looked at me and just gone Ryan. And first of all,
I never like the fact that I would have utensils
or anything of use is my first defense, because I
just pen if I was lucky, never had a pencil case,
(18:52):
no way. And so I was like and I was like,
you know, I'm a piece of shit. You know, I
don't have stuff to throw, and she just kind of
gave me this look. And then I said, I'm so
embarrassed about this. I said, if I had have thrown it,
I wouldn't have missed. Ah. I made it as if
(19:13):
because I'm a really good throw and she's taken that
as like, oh what you think of me?
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Yeah, and like saying it now and hearing it, but
like I went to the coordinators and got suspended and stuff.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You little can't yeah exactly.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
And when the head guy, mister Pringle's his name, he goes,
you know you said this, and I was like, now
that you say it, I can hear it. But what
I meant was what I meant was, mister Pringle, I'm
a good throw and I was a meeter from her. Yeah,
but who's me? And I said, mister Pringle, you've had me?
You know what? You know I don't have.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
I played volleyball, like I'm an athlete, but you.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Know I don't have rubbers and pencil shower. And I
also did give my friend a horseshoe tattoo in the
metal room by heating up a yeah yeah and he yeah.
Kelsy mc goes, oh, don't you think would be cool
if I like put my arm like he had his
arm on it, and I went, I'm like put it
(20:09):
on and he like screamed for thirty seconds and then
he looked at it and he goes, fuck.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yeah, my heel. Is it still permanent.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, his name's kelsy mc so he's got scars all
over him and I don't know which was men. It
was there for a few years full of horses.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
What a childhood?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Wow. Yeah, we didn't have a uniform at our school.
I don't know if that makes a lot more sense
after what you've just heard, but no school uniform. I
didn't really wear shoes that much.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
So how do you decide what to wear each day?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Well, that's the thing. Like other people ask that all
the time. That don't but after the third day you
stop kind of giving a fun because it's just normal.
So you just like end up wearing jeans and a
T shirt and whatever. And it was like a pretty
artsy hippie school and so like everyone was just doing
their own thing and like it was fine. I've never
been to school with that uniform.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, we had one high. Yeah, we're always like that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
They are yay away from them. I'm from Alpham and
there's two schools. There's Alpham High, which is where i'ment
with no uniform, and then there's Alpham College where if
you like have a kid that like is smart, like
they would go there and if not, they would go
to Alpham. Alpham College is like legit, and often like
go from Eltham. They go, oh really, and I got
(21:20):
not that much.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I didn't let start the train track.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You've spoken about the fact that you are adopted. Yep,
quite a lot. Do you remember when it was that
you were first informed that your first memory of being
told you were adopted.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, so it's like almost a Hollywood thing where like,
you know, like the kid finds out and it's like
this big moment. But the reality is for ninety nine
percent of adoptees is that you just grow up knowing.
And so adoptive parents have asked me like, oh, when
should I tell them? And I might tell them before
they're old enough to understand. It's like when you, oh,
when did you take your first breath? I don't know.
I just started a breath, like it's just so natural.
(21:56):
So for me it was I just always knew. So
that was never like a big reveal or a big
moment because they were telling me before any wondering why yeah, yeah,
and then and we always used to joke about it
all the time. So my mum's like a rat bag
idiot in the nicest way possible, but when she is
an idiot that, well, clearly I'm adopted because I'm not
(22:17):
related to her. It's just a very like natural dialogue
in the house and stuff, and so yeah, it's just
really normal. And like since I've like talked about it
and post online, I've got a lot of dams from
people being like, oh, I thought I was the only one,
but like same, Like it was just really normal. But again,
you watch movies and it's just it's like, you're not
my real mom, Like did you have those moments?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No?
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Never, like really never said that once because she is
my mum in my mind. I don't know any different.
And we're like, pretty soon.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Did she clean your room or put you up?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Well? I don't think so. It's good to know she
might have thought it, but I think she they had
twelve years of trying to get pregnant. Yeah, so I
think anytime I was a brat, they'd probably go happy
to have you. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but like my
mum and dad got married when they were twenty one,
twenty two, and then they're thirty three thirty four when
(23:13):
I was dropped off. Yeah, and then so how were
you sorry? I was ten weeks old. Wow. So what
happens is every year couples who aren't able to conceive
for whatever reason would like apply and like I don't know,
the health department would like sign you off or go yep,
comfortable house, well good. And so in nineteen eighty seven,
(23:35):
that was a thousand Victorian couples that were willing to adopt,
and there was fifteen babies. And I often think of
what's that movie with Gwyneth Paltrow Starting Doors or whatever.
So that's like a thousand alternative lives that I had
just given. So I actually met someone who was in
(23:56):
my batch, like this other person that's three days older
than me, and he did my will when Mabel was born,
and they asked me about my family history and I
was like, oh, I don't really know medical stuff because
I was adopted. And he's oh me too. It's like,
oh what year, Oh what month? Oh what day? Saint
John Anglican blah blah blah, Broad Meadows, Yeah, holy shit. Yeah,
(24:16):
So he was three days older. The family that adopted
him were like like Italian, and so he's like lived
in this Italian household. He's like really smart, he's a
lawyer now, and I'm like, oh, you could have lived
with my hippie parents in Alphem if it was like
a toss of the coin that day.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
So it's kind of like if you smoke weedn think
about that too hard?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Really, is it still the same like process, you know,
like is there more to it?
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I assume there's more to it. And I think now,
and I say this delicately, that if you don't want
the child, it's probably easier to not have it in
the first place. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I thought you were going to say if you if
you get if you adopt the child, and then like
there's a certain like grace period.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Actually, what is it. Really? You can win the oxygen
on Saturday and change your mind till Tuesday. One of
those kids do that in the cooling off periods.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
Cooling off with a topic a child, though, actually is
a really good The foster system is now you can
like be a foster parent to take kids on for
like two week periods.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Well I was a foster for that first ten weeks.
So maybe that's why I ended up with Mum and dad,
because the foster parents were like, God, this.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Is okay just to try about his personality.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I was with from four days old to ten weeks.
I was with his family and apparently that family had
forty kids through over ten years. Like they were just like,
that's it. Yeah, the parents don't start till ten weeks
because there's the paperwork and the blah blah blah. So
these people just took and you know what a newborn's
like that they're up all special breeder. I don't know
who they are, but like that's great, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's like the patience on those people, and yeah, like
and for what do you imagine how hard it would be
after because you grow an attachment and you get to
know the people are like, oh, really gratitude they actually understand,
like they thy all the gratitude.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
We say instagram much, but they get it. Yeah, we're
just like I'm so grateful. Yeah really not. Mum and
dad get approved, like they go, yep, we've signed off
your approved for a child, so hopefully you get one.
Two years go past, they don't hear anything, and they
get a call on the Thursday, yeah he's good to
pick up tomorrow and their mum goes, I.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Can't do tuesdays.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I recall the bottom who is this and goes, Okay,
I guess we let's go shopping and buy some stuff.
And then mum was a school teacher, and so she goes, Okay,
mister principal, I'm going to need maternity leave and oh congratulations.
When she's like, I'm leaving right now. Oh my god.
(26:50):
So the principal goes in apparently like mum wasn't there,
but goes into the staff meeting the next day and
goes off Mandy duns having maternity and everyone goes, she
was he to down she was not pregnant. Yeah, and
so just like and I actually met a teacher that
was like at that school when at the time. Yeah,
(27:10):
because when I first talked about adoption, the luck popped
off online and so there's a lot of people going,
oh and she was like I didn't actually get it
until watching this video thirty years later because she just
disappeared one day everyone when pregnant. We all went okay,
so yeah, what about covering up here? Yeah kind of yeah.
And so they get this call and have you got
(27:31):
a cop nut? Have you got stuff nut? What do
they eat? I don't know. He's ten am tomorrow, Doug.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
So then I like that style. Yeah, it's crazy to
did they give you.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Like, now that you're older, have they given you any
sort of like what it was like for them you
transitioning into the house and what that.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Moment was like. Well, I think it was just the
because as you guys know, it like the pregnancy is
what nine months, but I can feel like five years,
like the anticipation you just by the end. I mean,
we didn't have to carry the child's so I can
only imagine how hard it is for the mums. But
it gets to that point, not thirty five weeks past.
We just like, can this kid just turn? I'm so
(28:09):
looking forward to meeting them. My wife's really uncomfortable. Yeah,
and he's here tomorrow. Like it's just I think it
was just the shock of like, oh, we've wanted this
for so long and we didn't have much of a
build up. It just happened nice that.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Way though as well.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I guess, yeah, you're just like adapt.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
What's it like growing up for yourself? Like what's your
perception of being put up for adoption? Did that weigh
on you in a heavy way or was it just
the norm? And it didn't really?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Nah, because my birth mum wrote a letter that was
like dear Ryan, when you're old enough to understand sort
of thing. And she was from like a really rough area.
It was one of eight kids, and the eight kids
shared like three single beds, like it was a rough
and rough area, drugs crime, and she was like adamant
(28:57):
that she wasn't going to like pass that on to
the next generation. So she was actually twenty eight when
she gave birth to me, and I grew up just
assuming probably like it's probably terrible to say, but I
just like to assume she was like seventeen or you know, yeah, yeah,
But now she was twenty eight and she was going
to night school, and she was like, I'm going to
better myself and if I have a family, they're not
going to be born into this community. They're not going
to have the childhood I had. And she was just
(29:18):
so adamant that, like, no, my child, I don't want
the life that I had for my child. So she
gets accidentally pregnant and she's just like this is the
kind of stuff people from here do. They get accidentally
pregnant and they were going to change the world, and
well now we just struggle on and that just happens
again and again, and she was just so determined that
(29:40):
that was not going to be the case. And so
she was also living in a sharehouse, and she was
just more than others, just like a child needs two parents.
And she didn't know my birth father, and like they
sort of that one time, and she was like, well,
this is not for me. And I think also by
the time she if you realize, like when you're trying,
(30:01):
you're kind of checking. She didn't know she was pregnant
until way into it, and I think it was like
past the point of no return. Yeah, and so she
was like, well, this kid's gonna have to be born.
I don't want them growing up in there. And so
I always go, oh, you've done me this huge favor.
So it wasn't like how could you do this to me?
I was always like thank you for doing that for me,
(30:22):
And so I was never like, never once was I
like what the fuck? And it was like, actually the opposite,
Like she felt a bit guilty afterwards, and a lot
of birth mums feel guilt, And the only reason I
wanted to meet her really was just go like, you
don't need to feel guilty, Like all good, I've like
hit the jackpot over here with my family, Like, I
(30:43):
hope you're go and marry someone, have a family of
your own and kind of forget about me and the
nicest way possible. Do you remember when you got that letter? Yeah,
well again, I was in the drawer always, but I
wasn't old enough to read it, and I'm not actually
very good at reading still, so it actually a few
more years the name, but I've still got it. It's
(31:05):
like a yellow booklet and it's a little ribbon and
it's like dear Ryan. It's called Ryan's Story, and they
kind of said, yeah, you know, my brothers are this tall,
and we back for Collingwood and all this stuff and
kind of yeah, and it was it was pretty nice.
And then she kind of explained like the circumstances, and
I think when you kind of hear that side of
the story, you kind of go, oh, like it's actually
(31:26):
quite selfless. It's not like, yeah, she couldn't be bothered
or she did the calling off period, but the final
like not that we need any evidence, but like, in
terms of being selfless, I actually had surgery when I
was three days old on my hip.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Hip's no good man, Yeah, Hip's no good.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I wonder the same or something. Is that a hip
hernia or not. I don't know. But I came out
of the surgery and they're like, oh, like the baby's
going to be fine, but like he's going to be sore,
and so he just like needs lots of hugs and
cuddles from his family and the nurses like, well, he
doesn't have family yet. So she actually, my birth mother
really came back to the hospital like after doing the
(32:05):
traumatic like believing she like came back and just like
sat in the chair for two days just to like
kind of hold me while I was a bit sore
and tender. And so you're going to go, oh, like
she cared and she was doing the right thing, and
there's no like and I'm like, yeah, you can't be
angry something. It's amazing. Yeah, like the selflessness to come back.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Yeah, especially after that, I can't imagine, like I can't
imagine giving up one of my children.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Well yeah, like I always thought that would be really tough,
but I just remember the first hour with Mabel, so
Bridge had a few complications and was off in the theater.
So it's just like the two of us and the
thought of like going, oh, I love you, and like
like I wouldn't be selfless or brave enough, like there'd
be no circumstance, like I just couldn't. Yeah, And I
(32:54):
think when Mabel was born, I was just like, well,
it's sort of like the respect I had for my
birth mother Julie, like ten x almost. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
As an adult, you then went on the quest to
then find your parents. You then got in contact with
your dad, who was in the UK. You then flew
over to meet him. How much were you hoping for
a long term relationship and how much were you happy
for it just to be like a like hey, putting
a face to a name.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah. So I did the ancestry DNA test trying to
find because I never really considered my birth father because
I just knew he was like backpacking and it was
what he didn't even know I existed, so there wasn't
any He didn't make decisions on my behalf. So I
do this ancestry DNA test hoping to find my birth mother, Julie,
who lives in Melbourne and as it turns out, live
(33:42):
three streets from my best mate and just up the
road and worked at a place that I've been to
like like crazy, so there's a chance you might have encountered.
I actually would be like, it's hard to believe I
wouldn't have. So when she she I was gonna say,
shouldn't have dor like she's she's now ass away so
we won't matter. But she worked at Vinnie's in Sydney
(34:05):
Road in Brunswick. Wow. And so I've been to that
vinnie so many times because we love getting a bargain
and got all the dress up paid, so we would
actually go there all the time. And so she volunteered
there and stuff for ages and I'm like, there's no
way I didn't run into it. But so trying to
find her down the street, no chance at all. But
(34:28):
we found some random guy in London, which turned out
to be easier to find, which is just insane. Yeah,
so we did the ancestry gena test and then I
write this letter to Joel and said like I didn't say,
like I think you're my father. I kind of went.
I was stopted they don't know the father my birthda.
His name is Julie. This was my birthday. I think
(34:48):
you worked in Melbourne nine months before that for a
little bit. You know I'm in London next, like, you know,
if you want to grab a coffee by kind because
I didn't want to put the pressure on and make
it feel weird. But I also was like, I'm not
after an explanation. You don't know me anything, And I
think I was more of a like a curiosity and
just like because at the time of life, I've never
met anyone in my biological family. So if we ever beer,
(35:11):
that'd be like the craziest thing that they ever do.
So I send this letter. He's like away for the weekend,
and the neighbor the post. He goes, oh, they away,
give the letter to the neighbor, and the neighbor goes, yeah,
cool mate, and just chucks it in the draw And
so a month later he's looking for an old water
(35:31):
bill opens the drawer and goes, oh, fuck, I got
that letter for Joe. Oh my god. Yeah, And then
so like it was almost that close to not meeting him.
Also because you know, neighbor and this is like such
a tight art thing that I paid for, Like what's
that extra thing you can pay where it like tracks it.
(35:54):
They're like, oh, it's like eight dollars a pen. It's
a peel Off thing. Yeah, but if it's for twelve dollars,
we'll track it. And I was like great, and I
was like I paid an extra four fucking dollars. And
so then like he sends me an email and goes, yeah,
like I think that's me. I hear what you're saying, Like,
let's do a proper test and see. So I did
(36:15):
a few swabs and he did the same, and I
sent it this place in London and then he emailed
me saying, yeah, it's a match. And then that email
went to my jump folder for like a week, and
then I got it and then I was like yeah.
I was like, yeah, I'm in London, shoul we catch
up and went over there and had a coffee and
we had a coffee and we met at ten am
and we're still at the cafe four like six hours later.
(36:37):
Just like if you were also in the cafe, you
would be like, oh, these are like two old mates
catching up like you wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
It was that sort of natural.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
And you're still stay in contact now. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, so I've been So I've been to London and
hung out with them three times. Tony we met, we're
in London, last year, and so they oh, you know,
we'll go out for dinner here, and then at the
end of dinner, Joel my birth other goes, I'll pay
for us, and Tony goes, well you missed the first
thirty years, and Joel's wife just goes, my god. And
(37:12):
Joel did find that funny after the feet like he
was like, she's joking. Oh, yeah, it's a joke. But yes,
I've been to London three times there originally from the US.
So I've done a Thanksgiving in New Orleans, Thanksgiving in Austin,
and then in a month, I'm going to Thanksgiving in
I think we're going to Carbo and I'll go back
(37:32):
to Austin for a bit.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
So.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
So he's got two sons who are like my half brothers.
One of them looks like exactly like I did before
I got You guys have the.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Same you said, and I didn't.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Look the same eyes. We do have the same eyes. Yeah,
I was like, oh, you've got blue eyes and like yeah, yeah,
we like you both got harry chest and like yeah,
you guys both got small dicks, and yeah, that was
very crazy. But we like in compared in my family,
(38:07):
like my mum teacher, dad Trady, all aunties, teachers, nurses, trades,
and I studied finance, which was a bit like like,
no one's really into that. Birth father finance, two brothers
finance account and his brother stockbroker. Like I think you
might have got it from there, but like that was
all these crazy se people got bad hips.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
See this scar.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, I have had a shoulder reconstruction.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
My birth father just taking his shirt off. Yeah, anyone's wondering.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Your pants off? Birth father, same scar, same surgery from
when he played like fort back in the day. So
there's all these like little quirky things and we just
find o how interesting.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
So when you were trying to have a kid talk
about six years, Yeah, were you and Bridge ever considering adopting.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, but because I there's a lot of kids born
into like unfortunate circums answers and even still you know
that mums passed away, dad's in jail, like there's people
that are really stuck. And so I think I've always
felt like it was a way of like passing it
on or it was a genuine option, and Bridge was
like open to it, but it was like, oh, but
(39:15):
I'd still like to have our her own child Becau.
She's a real like Bridge had a great career, but
even in the heights of what she was doing in
white making, she was like, I want to be a mum.
I want to have a garden with veggies and make food.
And she's just like a real like soult of the earth,
Like she's not Italian, but like she's an old Italian
Honnor and so that's what she really wanted and that
was really important, and so I think but we did
(39:36):
talk about it and stuff. But when I was in
Western Australia, I kind of was thinking about adoption and
I kind of really understood the concept of it was
only starting to click that some couples just couldn't conceive
because you know, in high school you go to health
class and they're like, if you look at a girl
at a party pregnant and then it's so crazy that
you get to thirty and you go, it's actually really
(39:57):
fucking hard to get pregnant, which is crazy. So I
was like I kind of had this like I know
what I was going through, but I had this like
I can understand that, and I think I want to
like donate sperm is my way of like paying it
forward a little bit, and so there was this website
in Perth, and imagine what's had to have taken place
previously for this to be written on the website. Okay,
(40:20):
there's two women who are looking for a donor. You
don't get to have sex with the girls, That's what
it's says. And I was like, well, obviously, and don't
come on your computer because it doesn't work. I was like, yeah,
obviously they need a mail for that, and so I
was like and then I was like, how many guys
have messaged for them to.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Need to expectations rule number one?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Yeah? Yeah, And then I think that's when I started.
I wasn't with like a new bridget at the time,
but we went like together, and then as we came together,
she was like, I really respect that, but I'd also
like to have our own first. Also, were about to
bust open its scandal. Can you hear someone at the door?
(41:08):
I've been inspired by you, by the way from a fire.
My name is right.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
He's a guest.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
I guess guess yeah, you are.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
What he brought.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Guess what he brought on a plane all the way here?
Have one guess? Jeez? Close type of cheese platter, but
it has it was from Melbourne.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
Eyes light up.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, yeah, you've been in inspiration with your traveling food
hydriinks over the years, So thank you.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And I'm so sorry mom, you'll have to get out
of the don't have to defend yourself. It's okay. I'm
so sorry. We'll have to banish. So then for six years?
What is that like? This is coming from Ashley myself.
(41:53):
We both were very fortunate and we've got our wives
pregnant quickly. But what's it like for yourself having to
go through that six year wait?
Speaker 1 (42:01):
Hoping hoping. Yeah. We also move for work a few times,
so we were in Canberra, then we moved to Perth
and then we moved back. But like when you're moving
across the country, you start you're doing the like, oh, well,
hang on, do we just take a break real quick
because if we're about to move, and then the support
like my mum's not there to and so you're kind
of like stopping and starting and it's not really working.
And then you kind of because Bridge's career was going
(42:24):
really well and radio is going alright for me, we're like, oh,
things are going really well. Maybe it's not the worst
thing if like there wasn't that urgency right and start,
and so you kind of just assume, oh, you know,
not this month, maybe next month, and then oh, we're
moving at the end of the year. We'll wait till then.
And then Bridget gets to that age where she is
a geriatric, which is written on all the forms. What Yeah,
(42:50):
a geriatric? What when you're over thirty five? All of
the forms they did. Laura cop that as well.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah she was because we were third just
thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Now did I use that to mock people older than me? Yeah,
so now I'm joking you are. Yeah, yeah, so I
need to change that. But even seeing that word on
forms is just so like yeah, but and yeah. Then
we did IVF. Few rounds didn't quite work. And it
was also during lockdown, which just made like logistically really
(43:22):
because we're in Melbourne as well by this stage you
couldn't really go anywhere, you couldn't do anything. When I
had to give a sperm sample, I wasn't allowed into
the hospital. Do it out the front. Well, They're like,
you bring it in from out the front. Well, they
actually because I was like off in the car park,
you've got forty minutes from the time when you produce
(43:45):
to when you have to because less then it goes
cold or whatever and you can't do it there. So
you start thinking, like, am I jerking about the front?
What am I doing? I didn't have a car at
the time, so I actually, well, I got an uber
and I had the cup in my jacket. You yeah,
And so I was.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Hang on a second, so have you have you pre
booked the uber or Okay?
Speaker 1 (44:08):
So yeah, let me through which apps open at which time?
So I'm on air at Kiss on the radio at nine.
My start on air and it's just me the solo
shift at nine at.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Then yeah, coming up, here's me.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I'm not here.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
The clinic opens at eight and I'm on air at nine.
So I'm like, there's this sort of a small window
to get it done. And so Tony Lodge goes, I
know what I'll do. I'll text Ryan every two minutes
from seven forty to eight o'clock and just she's like
taking selfies and smiling. She's like does this help? Does
this help? I'm made it real awkward because she was
(44:51):
like because I told him, like, I'm gonna have to
run into there, I do that and come back and
she's like, okay. So then I get an Uber and
I kind of don't hate the Uber driver of this
because if you're an Uber driver and this person goes,
can we get to the hospital as soon as possible?
He goes, is everything okay? You know, like, is everything fine?
(45:13):
I go it's actually fine? And he goes which entrance
and I go the one here and he goes, oh,
what's going on? And he's asking all these questions.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
And I'm like, and You've got a bucket of come
on his shirt.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I've got a bucket of com fully a car. There's
perspiration on my forehead still, and I'm like, normally confident,
is I guess? But like, I'm so sheepish in this moment.
I'm just so embarrassed and awkward. And also I have
to rock up to reception. Oh where do I put
the you know? So I'm just so so you're in
(45:45):
an uber with a bucket of cum.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
And so who record? How much was it?
Speaker 1 (45:52):
How many meals well do they need? Or how many
in the cup? I tell you what's really like humbling.
He's like, when I think they should make the cup
was so wide that it doesn't fill up and you
just feel like, is that all love got to?
Speaker 2 (46:09):
It's a thin pancake.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
I want to start a family, and this is what
I'm Yeah, I need a cash proent net. Yeah, it's
just so awkward. And then you walk in there and
I don't know why this makes it worse, but the
girl behind the counter is the hottest girl you've ever
seen in your and you just go, of course it is.
And it's just so awkward. And I told the uber driver,
(46:32):
I'm like, I got to get back to kiss thread.
Can you wait out the front? And he's like, how
long are you going to be? And then I think
I think he's realized, oh it's a sperm donation place,
and he doesn't know it's in my pocket. So when
I go, wait right here, I'm not going to be long,
He's like, am I waiting for this guy to go?
I've just like kept the car running out the front,
(46:54):
keep the Yeah. I talked about this on our podcast
and because people in Melbourne were like, oh, same, but
we don't live within forty minutes. So this lady, she's
from Melton, which is probably forty minutes away, and so
she was driving the car and her husband was jerking
in the in the backseat coming down the Western Highway.
(47:15):
And now if you heard someone jerking off and you
heard faster, faster, slower, slower, what are you expecting the
accelerator correct, Because he's like, there's a person right next
to me, So he's like, can you just speed up
a little bit so they're not right there? I not
slow down his poot. He's trying to concentrate on that
(47:35):
and do it.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
And then is that a legal Can you masturbate in
the car? No, you can't.
Speaker 1 (47:38):
If you're a passenger, you can.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
You're still you're a public you're in a car, it's
a private vehicle.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
It's a private vehicle.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
If you're in a taxi, you probably can't do that. Okay,
let's get a list of wherein where you can.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
If anyone's listening who works in law police.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
That's your personal computer, Jess, don't google it, yeah, because
your algorithm will be fucked. But yeah, fun times I
buy all really And then another time I did get
to go in. But I think that's worse because the
there is never less eye contact than when you're in
the waiting room. I thought you're gonna say you do
it in front of them, but there's seven other guys
(48:13):
in the waiting room and you're just sitting their way
and you all know watching. Yeah, and then you finish
and you go sit back down and there sort.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Of everyone's grinning.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
He's the sweatiest. It's really awkward. But yeah, I think
COVID made it weird. Bridget getting older like sort of
put the pressure on a little bit. And then the
strangest thing because like with you do you do a
pregnancy test with? Is that how you guys found out?
You know, the partner comes out from the bathroom with
the stick.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
And I think one of the times Laura had some.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
This reminds me of that story. I was like, we
thought we'd dip it in the toilet.
Speaker 4 (48:43):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
We were like they like just win the toilet and like,
like you do like stirring some punch.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
That's a fair question, Like you idiots. They should teach
that in school. But we get told, oh, yeah, will
call you at two forty seven on Tuesday or you know,
just or we get an email because we tried a
few times once, wasn't it. It's just the least romantic.
I'm like, this is a beautiful moment. Check your Gmail.
(49:13):
You know, it's just junk. Yeah, and even we found
out the gender from an email. Oh wow. And it's
really like because you know, it's going to be this
moment and we're going to embrace and it's going to
be huge in we're life.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
What's the dialogue? How are they writing these emails?
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Is it like just a big girl? Yeah, bridge got it.
It's actually a very unromantic. It's very scientific. Oh, here's
the print out of your DNA and the numbers and
the this and the that, and the blood says this,
and the blood set and it's almost like if the
(49:49):
blood level of this test is above that, it means
you're pregnant. But like you're getting a print out of
shit that's all foreign. Like like when I.
Speaker 2 (49:57):
Got my OP which is what we get when we
finish school, and it's number between one and twenty five.
Ryan's just coming up along.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
But we thought of your school. Yeah, it's like one.
Speaker 2 (50:09):
I remember like trying to scan the letter, trying to
find out tell me.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
What it is. Yeah, the letter itself was a test. Yeah,
you know what did you get?
Speaker 2 (50:18):
I got like a twenty one out of the legend.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Is that good? Is that good.
Speaker 2 (50:22):
Twenty five is the worst.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
One of you. Here I am sitting next to a
fucking genius. Where'd you go to school? Which time? High school?
The first time? Some polls? So would you get an
Nenter score or you're out of twenty five?
Speaker 5 (50:43):
No?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
No, I left school on was fifteen. It never made
it a score. Is twenty one more than you?
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, yep. Look I got life lessons? So true.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
So what was it like then, jumping into the deep
end of parenthood? You think to you swim?
Speaker 1 (51:00):
I think I did a pretty good job at the
start Bridge bridges out of action for six weeks after
the birth, and so it was just like she couldn't
really move, butudn't do much. So I was running around
doing a lot, doing a lot. She was still doing
way more than me. But I kind of did the
night shift.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
You can always hold over them that you can't drive
at that time, like, well, I.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Guess I'll love to Maybel was born just before or
the twenty twenty three Ashes cricket which was in England
that started at ten pm every night, and so that's
so I said, I did the night shift and this
is like so simple, But the whole time we were
trying to get pregnant. I was just Bridges trying to
(51:41):
get pregnant or just sitting. I just kept thinking, one day,
I'm going to sit on the couch, I'm going to
have our dog Broun on my legs, Mabel on my chest,
the fire on, and just lay there and go, this.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
Is it, and then the cricket's on, and then you go,
fuck that ashes a coming on.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
And so every night we had the and we just
moved into our house, which I guess now is like
our forever house a few months earlier, and my home
Bridge is like, the other thing I really want is
a bath. That's my like my thing, and I was like, great,
I really want a fireplace and whatever the rest of
the house is, We'll figure that out. But that was
our thing. And so I just remember. And it wasn't
just once, it was every night for months on end.
(52:22):
I'm like I'm laying here, you know, you know they're
kind of cooing and just like really slinging when they're
not screaming. Yeah, the dog who gets along really well
with like well, nervous about that. You know, you're not
supposed to leave a dog and a kid in the
same room. Oh yeah, you can't separate the my dog
and Mabel. They are best friends, that's concerning. So I'm
sitting there bronze on my lap, Mabel's like on my chest,
(52:44):
cooing the fires on, and I was just like, I've
done it, this is this is the best. And so
as like not as much sleep and all that stuff,
it was just like the best. I also wasn't working
because ton and I had like gone out on our own.
So Tony was really like we could be flexible, Whereas
if I had a job, like when I was working
(53:06):
at Kiss, like besides jerking it that morning, it's pretty like,
oh cool, Well you start at nine, so there's no flexibility.
So I don't know how people do breakfast radio with
a kid. That would just be insane. But yeah, I
don't know. I guess I was pretty lucky with the
flexibility if we win that action serious, I was a draw,
(53:29):
but we were a champion, so we retained. That's right.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Not to bring up the adoption thing, please again, sorry
to Kip reminding you that's right.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
I'm aware.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
Did that have any impact on the way that your parent.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
A little bit? I think? I so before that, the
one thing that's like affected my life is because my
birthma made a huge sacrifice for me. I felt like
a lot of pressure to like have a good life
whatever that means to kind of like, well, you made
this sacrifice for me. The least I can do is
like do a really good job of it. And so
(54:07):
I kind of felt pressure for that. And so a
big word for me is like pride, Like I want
to do stuff I'm proud of. When I'm old, I
want to look back and think, oh, I'm proud of
the things I've done. And then I hope my birth
mum can be proud of the things I've achieved. And
so that's like a big thing for me. And so
ye make me cry. Yeah. But so with Mabel, I
tell her every day like how proud I am. But
(54:30):
I actually, you know, like it's going to lose meaning,
like as like people think, oh that one day Dad
sat me down and said, I'm so proud of you, sir.
But I say it all the time, like five times
a day. And so by the time she's fifteen, should
have look but I like really take like you take
bright in it. I take pride in telling her how
proud I am when even when it's really small, i'ms are,
(54:52):
I'm really proud, that was really old, that was really kind.
You're sharing your toys that I'm really proud of you
for that.
Speaker 3 (54:56):
It could be your thing that you don't know that
you don't know how she's going to take it in
fifty your time, which just might be shut up and
be like, well that's our thing.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Yeah, if we're proud of each other, I can.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
Tell you from personal experience, you never get fed up
or sick of hearing someone say you're doing a really
good job, no matter who it comes from, whether it's
my mum, whether it's law or my wife, if it's
someone at work. As rarely says it to me, I
say it all the time. You don't.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
I say it to my screen about you a fair
bit ash thank you. Should put that in the DMS moment,
I think, is.
Speaker 2 (55:26):
It is something you can say it until you're black
and doing the face, and I think there is absolutely
no I mean psychologists, especially.
Speaker 7 (55:34):
Like I mean when when Maybe gets a little bit
older and she's up and running around and she's starting
to establish hobbies, and then she does really good, like
I know with Oscar when he does something and you
can see right on his face.
Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yea, Like I without having to even say, I just
feel it, you know what I mean. And I know
he can feel that. I can feel it too. Yeah,
what's always doing at the moment, that's like, gives you
a real life job like ju jitsu. Right, Oh, that's
sick shit.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Out of other kids.
Speaker 3 (56:00):
And he's an absolute weapon and he doesn't know it.
But when when when push comes to shovel the time
to fight another kid, the other kids shipping himself because
I was taken down like a bag.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
And I'm like, as a joke, I tried to grab him,
he tried to kidnap him.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
I tried to grab him, and the kid fucking fly
kicked me in the.
Speaker 1 (56:24):
Face and I was like, and then he dude a
trade six year people up. Yeah, yeah, he's like a
spider monkey. But when he when he has that good
class and he's.
Speaker 3 (56:38):
Like he's like a fucking whale on two kids in
their dad, I'm like, yeah, I'm proud of that, and
that's always going to be there because he'll probably move
on from that and find a new hobby.
Speaker 1 (56:48):
Or when he catches the foot.
Speaker 3 (56:50):
If you feel it, especially like if you you've got
your kid and your kids, Like if dad's proud of me,
I'm proud of me.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
One thing I've liked so me maybole do swimming lessons
at the moment, that's our on a Saturday morning with
do swimming lessons and we go get a coffee. But
one line that I like to use because I don't
want to also be like the parent that like we've
all seen those really crazy overbearing especially fathers that are
like you have to win some love it, yeah, just
saying like I love watching you do that, like they
(57:19):
just know that I'm out. So when she gets out
of the pool, like I just love seeing you swimming.
It like sometimes she'll have a really good lesson and
sometimes you know she's a bit shy and doesn't work,
but I just I love seeing you and she just goes, oh,
dad loves seeing me have a go yeah, and even
her hearing Dad loves seeing you do that, Like you
can kind of see it in her go oh great totally.
And so when she gets older for sport and stuff,
(57:41):
I'm really trying to remind myself, like I love watching
you do that, is that it might be like I'm
glad you won or if you lost, you shouldn't have
done this. It's like, no, I just love watching your play.
Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, Miley's trying to learn to write a black at
the moment and she's absolutely useless. Like the moment you
let go, she falls over instantly. That's like April and
she was like, Dad do I's sorry, that's your wife.
She's like, did I do good? And I said, honey,
You're doing amazing. That's the best I've ever seen. Wasn't
but she was like she was so happy to hear
(58:13):
you say that.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
But she like having fun trying and falling over and stuff. Yeah, yea, yeah,
yeah yeah. And then I just love saying you having
fun out here total, you know, and then you don't
have to lie. That's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
When Mabel is older and she's no longer living with you,
what is the one thing you'd want her to remember
about the house she grew up in.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
That's a great question, a simple question that I've never
thought of. Well, Like I said, Bridget's like a real
nono type, like we've got we've got this huge veggie garden,
We're going to get chickens. Mabel has this Do you
guys have that little thing at the bench where they
stand at the kitchen bench and like.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
I know, I never got done, but they're so good.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
I throw it out annoyed out of me. It's so good.
But like Mabel loves helping, like in the kitchen. And
I feel like if she grows up and knows that, like, oh,
Mum and dad love each other. I love me and
we're always like cooking food, we're in the garden. It's
just like a really calm, peaceful, healthy kind of player.
I don't know, like that might seem like overly simplistic,
(59:17):
but like I just feel like if she grows up
and has like a pretty wholesome because you know, you're
always fighting the screens and it's a crazy word out there,
but I think if she remembers home, it's like we
always had like really great food and you know, we
always hung out together. And I always make a point
of being like Maybel, who does dad love And she'll go,
you dad loves mart. I'm just really making sure that
(59:38):
she knows that mom and dad love each other. Yeah,
So I feel like if she's like, oh, yeah, like
if she think, what was your dad, Like, Oh, he
just loved mom so much and he just loved me
like that would be really cool if that was what
she remembers.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
All memory stuff. Yeah, I did have one more question,
which I don't know if this is going to make sense,
but someone submitted this on our Instagram. Yeah I think
I'm doing this, remember it correctly. They want to know what.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Sauce you like? What sauce?
Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Yeah? Does that make any sense at all? Okay, but
someone just said, well.
Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Horn Day sauce is the greatest sauce in the world.
Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Can you just double check the two doting dads.
Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
And she's obviously got a lot of quality comments and
questions coming through the box. It could be Tony's famous,
but maybe it's the besh of male sauce.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
I thought you were going to be like, oh, like
this is such a like in joy Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
Ship was that Donna again?
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
I know. And to finish this chat, smoky.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Barbecue, Ryan, It's been a pleasure, take a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
And that lasagna was out of the fridge for a while,
so I'll just leave that up to you to decide
what I'm not going.
Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
To get poisoning.
Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
I'll let you know either way.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
If you could send that tray back next time. We
thank you mate, ash. Look.
Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
At the time of recording this outro, I will admit
that I have eaten the lasagna. It fed the family,
my children. My kids don't like lasagna. That was wrong,
so I tried to give it to the kids. They
weren't too keen. Laura did have it on the first
night of it being cooked. She was a little bit
wary about how long it would be safe to eat,
(01:01:25):
considering that it traveled into state unfrozen on an airplane.
It was a long time in transit, not being refrigerated,
so she was like, look, after night one, I'm out.
I continued to eat the lasagna for three or four
days until Laura was like, I'm throwing that fucking thing out.
Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Where's the dish? She threw that out too.
Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
I've kept the dish. My mum was like, should we
return it, post it back. I'm like, I'm sure you
could just order one off Amazon and it'd be the
same price as what it costs to send it to Melbourne.
Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
Make sure you wrap it in newspaper, put it in
a nice box, and send it back.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Shut up, mother, should.
Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
We clean it first?
Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Nah? But if you enjoyed this episode as much as
I enjoyed dolasagna. Please give us a review. That's all
I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (01:02:09):
Five stars, Share with a friend if you like, or
you can join us on socials and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Two Doting Dads on Instagram TikTok. There is a Facebook
group as well. Goodbye, Goodbye, farewell, God bless and, as
the people who make Lasagnas would say, adios. Two Doting
(01:02:41):
Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country throughout Australia
and the connections to land, see and community.
Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
We pay our respects to their elders past and present
and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Island
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