December 22, 2025 • 30 mins
Congressman Byron Donalds joins Joe Pags for a wide-ranging, serious conversation about power, control, and why so many American systems feel broken at the same time.
This episode goes far beyond headlines. Donalds explains how political incentives — not compassion or incompetence — drive decisions in Washington, from immigration policy to law enforcement, health care, and federal overreach. He walks through how narratives are manufactured, why enforcement is selectively applied, and how government power quietly expands while accountability disappears.
The discussion touches on immigration and border enforcement, but also zooms out to the deeper issues:
• how incentives shape policy
• why “temporary” government powers never go away
• how control replaces representation
• and what happens when common sense is pushed out of policymaking
Donalds also talks about Florida’s governance model, why it’s working when other states are struggling, and why leadership — not slogans — determines outcomes.
If you’re trying to understand why things feel off in the country, and why the same failures keep repeating no matter the issue, this conversation connects the dots.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What you're about to watch matters more than most of
what's floating around out there online right now. It's an
interview with Byron Donald's. There's a lot of lying out there.
There's a lot of intentional confusion about what's going on
at the border, what's going on in our country, what's
going on with the economy, what's going on in the
state of Florida. It's where Byron Donalds is from. You're
going to be hearing from him, a sitting member of Congress,
but he's also a candidate for governor for the Great
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State of Florida. He doesn't speak in slogans. He speaks
in systems, incentives, and actual consequences. In this conversation, we're
going to talk about why Democrats have pushed for open
borders for decades. He gets right down to it. Not
the I wonder what they're doing. No, he tells you
why they're doing it. It's not by accident, it's not
out of compassion. It's a strategy for power and controlled
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We're going to break down why sanctuary cities exist, why
ICE is constantly being attacked and being lied about, and
what we can do about changing the narrative and making
people understand exactly what's really going on. We also get
into the uncomfortable truths that are out there, truths that
you have to know. A missing children, how many where
three hundred thousand failed vetting, visa overstays. Why isn't that
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a crime? Why is that a civil offense? It's not
a sound by the interview. It's an interview with a
serious guy. It's a serious conversation about voter's freedom and
whether America remains a nation governed by law or by chaos.
It's Byron Donald's watch closely. What he says and what
he lays out is going to explain exactly why things
feel so broken and what you need to really know.
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If I have my way, this man is going to
be the next governor of the Great State of Florida.
It's a state where I grew up, but my mother
is stole there, my sisters are stole there. Love the
state a lot. We go as offend as we can.
It's Byron Donald's US Representative District nineteen, the Great State
of Florida, also goob natorial candidate Byron How are you
good to see it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Doing good? Going to be back with you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's always a pleasure. I want to get into some
stuff that's happening in the news right now, and then
I do want a full throw to talk about your
run for governor. But there's a lot going on. I
just made the mistake on x howne of you follow
me on X but I just said this on there.
I made the mistake of having for you clicked instead
of following. And you've got people at urob elbow with
every day in the House of Representatives that are just
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lying about what Trump is doing about immigration, lying about
what Ice is doing out there in the streets, lying
about about everything Trump says, everything you say, everything that
I say, and man, they just get away with it,
almost with impunity. Are there people in that body, I
won't say any names other than maybe Japel and I
won't say maybe Omar. Are there other people that you
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can tell me that aren't there representing anybody but their
own interest? Because I don't think these representative districts are
getting any love, any help, any any representation from these people.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What is going on, frankly, what's going on is that
the Democrats, for more than thirty years in America have
wanted wide open borders, no accountability, and no ability to
actually have an immigration law and process that prioritizes the
American people or Americans. I mean, they've never wanted that.
What they wanted were the last four years under Joe Biden.
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They wanted a wide open border, no checks, no ability
for anybody to say no. This is why they support
sanctuary jurisdictions in Washington State or again California, Illinois, New
York because they have the deranged belief that wide open
borders and no rules around immigration whatsoever actually make the
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country better. And that's just a flat out lie. All
we have to do is look at Europe. Europe is
ten years ahead of where the United States is, and
we see the major immigration problems they have. And the
biggest issue of all pass all the illegal immigration, is
that you don't have assimilation of people coming from other
countries to become a fabric of your own. So this
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is why they lie about what ICE is doing. This
is why you have these Democrats who decide that they're
all going to be tough guys and go stand up
to ICE officers who are doing the job that they
have been hired to do by the commander in chief.
The President of the United States Donald J. Trump. So
that's why they lie, That's why they blame shift, that's
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why they're always trying to find some cause celeb to
rally around. Because what they want is in America with
wide open borders, no immigration checks whatsoever. They want people
from foreign nations to come to America. And in a
lot of respects, the Democrats do want to change the
political fabric of our nation. And they know that Americans
who come here legally excuse immigrants who come through the
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legal channels. Americans here in the United States, we reject
their policies time and time again. So they try to
find new voters, and that's why they believe in wide
open immigration.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It's Byron Donald Jewish Representative District nineteen, Great State of
Florida running for governor, go and support as candidacy Byron
Donalds dot com Byron Donalds dot com. All right, and
they're understood it because they're flooding the zone into the
greatest nation on the planet. People are coming here because
of all that we have and all that we offer.
Yet when they come here, they try to change what
it is that we stand for, our value system, the
fact that we're Western civilization. You're bringing people in from
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third world countries who allegedly are looking for a better life,
and then they try to make this country like the
country they came from. So you said that they think
it makes America a better place to have all these
people come in. Illgally, I got to take it to
the next level. Isn't this really about power and control?
If they've got a bunch of people here that are
on the dole, that are only relying on government, doesn't
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that give the people that I mentioned and others on
the left this idea that they're somehow monarchs or leaders
or filled with the power. That we all need our
meal from them, we need our electricity from them, are
housing our transportation from them. It seems to be a
power play to me.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Do you agree? Oh, one hundred percent, it's a power play. Listen,
the Democrats what they care about more than anything, Power
and control. That's what they care about. Look at the
policies that they support. I mean, everybody's talking about healthcare
right now, right well, the healthcare problems in the United States.
The fact that insurance premiums and deductibles have gone through
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the roof is the fault of the Democrat Party. They
created this monstrosity. They voted for it. Republicans at the time,
and every year since have I've told the American people
time and time again, this is not going to work.
It's gonna make it unaffordable. It's gonna drive us to
single payer healthcare. That's what the Democrats want, and what
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happens in a single payer healthcare system. You can only
see your doctor when the government allows you to. You
can only get a service when the government allows you to.
That does not sound like a system based upon freedom
and economics which supports people directly. That sounds like a
command and control industry, a command and control society. You
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take a look at what it did under the Biden
administration COVID nineteen. They didn't have an honest debate about
the COVID vaccine. They didn't have honest debates about what
we're gonna be the procedures to help people avoid contracting
COVID nineteen. No, they did the exact opposites. Lockdowns, suppression,
suppression of free speech, blackballing doctors who were trying to
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put the truth out there, shadow banning people. That is
themo of the Democrat Party. So it doesn't really matter
what the issue set is. It's all about power, it's
all about control. So you're call it a monarchy, an oligarchy,
whatever you want. It's about them having political power and
they will do anything to achieve that goal.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
BYRONDONALDS dot Com US representative Byron Donald's running for governor
the Great State of Florida. What do you do about
states like Minnesota where the governor says we're not helping.
In fact, we're gonna hinder your ability to go and
get people that are here breaking the law. Or the mayor,
Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis saying these are bad people
in call nine one one, the police chief saying call
nine one one, these are master men that are kidnapping
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our citizens. And then I mean, even to that end,
go to Illinois where JB. Pritzker is refusing four thousand
detainer requests by Christy Noman the DHS. Isn't there something
that says that's aiding in the betting or harboring. Can't
we do something about them getting in the way of
just enforcing the law.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, I will leave that in the hands of the
Attorney General and the director of the FBI. But let's
be very clear, these states and jurisdictions, they do not
have the right to violate federal law. If I had
my way, I would strip them of their funding because
if you're not going to comply with federal law, then
you don't need federal dollars, period, full stop. But in
the interim, what I think is that we are going
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to continue to move forward with the process of sending criminal,
illegal aliens home. That's what we're gonna do, That's what
the President ran on, that's why he won a mandate.
And so now we're not going to take the phony
outrage from the radical left. And now, mind you, this
is the radical left. We're not going to take the
phony outrage from the radical left as gospel as truth.
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It's not. These are actually the complete opposites. They are
lying to their constituencies. They are lying to the American
people because the only thing they're left with is opposing
Donald Trump, because they do not have ideas and policies
that are going to work for the people.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, Byron, are we doing a good enough job
on our side, the right conservatism in getting the message
out Because I just talked about what I just saw
on X when I did by accident for you, and
out of context, Ice is beating up pregnant women. Now,
out of context, Ice is trying to deport us citizens.
None of those things is true, but they keep on
saying it, and they're messaging I mean, million views on
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somebody who posted a short snippitt of a piece of
video with no context about a woman who, by the way,
showed up where Ice was arresting somebody and actually hit
an ICE vehicle with her vehicle. They didn't say any
of that, but I fear the messaging is not where
it needs to be on our side, are we getting
better at that?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're getting better. I mean, look, we always have to
message just to one thing as a Republican that the
party never really has been good at it. We're just
starting to get good at it, and I think we're
going to continue to get better. But this is one
of the reasons why President Trump constantly talking to the press,
constantly set in the record straight cabinet meetings that are
actually occurring, where the press gets to ask questions. These
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are the critical things that you have to do. But
we cannot take our foot off the gas. I would
say if twenty twenty five revealed anything is that. Yes,
we were able to pass the press it it's agenda.
Yes we secured the border. Yes we're starting to deport criminal,
illegal aliens. But you have to continue to tell that
story day in day out. You cannot let up.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It is representative Byron Donalds. Go to Byron Donalds dot
com support its candidacy for governor the Great State of Florida. Well,
we talk about who's here in this country. We saw
the two National Guards members. One died got shot by
somebody who's a terrorist. Allegedly he was here, certainly from
Afghanistan on this allies list that Biden came up with. Byron,
we don't know who's here. We can't vet people from
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third world countries. The war lords in the mountains of
Afghanistan don't have a database that they're sharing with us.
So what do we do. We know that there are
thousands of others that are here. I know that with
the pause that there HR sixty two twenty five. You
want to stop new people coming in who might be
on that certain list or from that certain region. What
do you do about who's here? Now?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We're gonna have to go through the painstaking process of
vetting people and sending a lot of people home. It's
not going to be easy. It's easy to just let
everybody come in the country with no checks. That's what
Joe Biden was doing. That's what Kamala Harris was doing
in the Democratic left. The hard part is having to
find all those people. Look this the last administration, they
lost what ninety thousand kids, one hundred thousand kids, just
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lost them, had no idea where they were.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
In the I think at one point it was three
hundred thousand was the number. It was like three hundred
and twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You're probably right, you ever, I don't even remember the
number committed to memories. But they've just lost these kids.
When when Joe Biden allowed unaccompanied miners to come into
the country illegally, Well, if you just lost kids, what
happens with somebody who came in on one of Joe
Biden's lists that actually wants to do harm in the
United States, like the gunman here in Washington, d C.
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Or anywhere else. This is the problem. And so that's
why the Pause Act what it does. It does put
a temporary freeze on immigration. It ends h one b
visus it and then it also has a deliberate process
for us to get the immigration system under control while
also deporting criminal, illegal aliens. That's the prudent thing to do.
That's what anybody, if it's your home, or anybody if
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that's your business, that's what you do. When you're at
capacity or over capacity and you're trying to get people out,
you say, hold on, nobody else can come in. Let
me get these people out first before we restart. It's
common sense stuff. Every business does it, every family does it.
The United States needs to do it as well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is it time to make overstaying your visa a crime?
That's civil when it comes to coming across the voter illegally,
as you know, eight USC. Thirteen twenty five means it's
a misdemeanor crime, federal crime to come across the vote.
If you're deported and come back, it's thirteen twenty six,
it's a felony. But if you overstay your visa, it's
a civil infraction. Now it's speaking tickets a civil infraction,
and I can go to jail if I don't pay
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the fine. But I would like to see that called
a crime. And I think Americans on the left are
getting away with saying this is just a civil thing.
It's a nice person. Men here twelve years. If we
make that a crime, that would give it more teeth,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It would. And let's also be clear, the biggest problem
we have, of the big problems we have, we don't
even have a biometric exit system in immigration. The nine
to eleven Commission, and part of their report was is
that we needed to have a biometric entry and exit
system so you could actually track people who were on
visas to make sure that they actually left the country.
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We have no idea. The Democrats have opposed a biometric
exit system every single year I filed the legislation the
last two congresses. They completely oppose it. They don't want
to do it. This is one of the reasons I
think the filibusters should be eliminated so we can get
to common sense policy that's actually going to help the
American people. So I think if you're going to go
down the line of making it a crime over saying
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your visas, we have to create a tracking system so
we know when people leave Joe. We don't have that
capability today. It makes no sense at all. This is
another reason why I think we should actually go back
to a quota system in immigration as opposed to chain migration.
Because let's say, let's say you have Brazil. We give
Brazil two thousand visas a year for whatever the reason is, Well,
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look if they're visa. If there's two thousand per year
and only one thousand Brazilians go back at the end
of that visa, that means we have a thousand still
in the country because we were tracking it. So under
a quota system, you could easily say, well, Brazil, guess
what next year, you only get a thousand it's supposed
to two thousand visas because only a thousand of your
foreign nationals actually went back home like they were supposed to.
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These are common sense policies that need to be adopted nationally.
The Democrats want no part of it. As a matter
of fact, what the Democrats really really want they want
to still count illegal aliens and other people in the
country who are not citizens. They want to count them
for the purposes of setting congressional districts. That's what the
Democrats want to do, and so we have to stop
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that kind of nonsense. American policy has to be first
and foremost focused on the American people. Let's do that first.
Then you can deal with immigration, legal immigration people coming in.
So my view is no more migration quota systems, and
immigration a biometric exit system so we can track visa
entrance coming in and also going out. And then if
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these other countries, if they're not going to make sure
that their people are coming back to their country, then
we limit the amount of visas they get next year.
You do that, this whole thing could well be able
to work very seamlessly for the American people.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, Byron, the problem is you're filled with common sense.
It doesn't make any sense to the other side. They
wanted to get rid of common sense. It's Byron Donald's
go to Byron Donalds dot com support US candidacy for
Governor of the Great State of Florida in Washington, DC.
We just talked about it a minute ago. The National
Guard presence there has decimated criminals and crime. It has
done an amazing job. Now, of course, we had the
terrorist attack the other day, but I've noticed that a
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lot of people are very very easy on the police
chief there. You're not, and the Oversight Committee isn't. But
a lot of people in Congress, even on our side,
are like, yeah, you know, she's cooperating. She gets it now,
she's coming around. I don't think so. And this is
somebody that we know is punishing people that were giving
their real stats on what crime was happening. She was
cooking the books, and you're not reporting from the oversight
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committe that she was literally removing people because they were
telling the truth. I added that work.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
H Yeah, they were definitely removing people. That's what the
police chief was doing. And it's all because they were
trying to hide the fact, which frankly everybody knew in
DC if you come here. They were hiding the fact
that Democrat policy was leading to massive amounts of crime
in the nation's capital. And so when Donald Trump deployed
the National Guard, a funny thing happened. Crime plummeted in DC.
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I mean plummeted. We had the mayor in a committee
a couple of months ago, Mayor Bowser, she testified under
oath that crime was down forty percent in Washington, d C.
Forty percent from when the president deployed the National Guard.
But you have radical Democrats who do work in the
government in the city of Washington, DC, who were trying
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to hide the truth from the people of d and
from the American people. And back to the first question, Joe,
this was all about power and politics. Crime was rampant
in DC, rampant all over the country. So the Democrats
were lying during the federal the presidential election talking about
how crime was actually coming down. Not true. They were
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cooking the books. They were not reporting crimes, they were
not reporting it to the FBI so that the crime
statistics were accurate, so we could actually compare and contrast.
They don't want to do anything that makes sense, common
sense things like supporting police, supporting law and order. And
that's even before you get to their radical das that
don't want to prosecute crime, which is one of the
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biggest issues you have when you have lawlessness, is you
have das that don't want to prosecute. And so instead
of doing the right thing, they cook the books, they lie,
they dissemble, and they try to win an election to
act like nothing ever happened. Donald Trump has proven you
put bodies on the street, support law and order, a
funny thing happens. It becomes a lot safer.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, it's Byron Donald's go to Byron Donalds dot com.
You've got beautiful highways in Florida. I grew up driving
nine ninety five I seventy five the Turnpike, Saugress Expressway,
US one. It's always a nice drive in A one A.
But you've also got a lot of people now driving
big rigs, not only in Florida but across this country
that are getting CDLs, many of them here illegally from
places like California, the getting a CDL New York. Now,
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you guys are coming down on New York, and the
Transportation Secretary the other day so that he is because
they're hitting out CDLs like their candy. Why does anybody
have a driver's license?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Byron?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
If they're here illegally Number one, number two, if they
can't read remedial English and read the road signs, what
are you doing behind the wheel of any vehicle much
less than eighteen wheeler? And then we see the stark
videos of these guys who are here illegally, allegedly just
killing families by not knowing how to drive their trucks.
What can you guys, congressually do about that? And should
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be you become the governor is at the governor's job
to clamp down and letting people into the state. I
have a CDL in some sort of speecious way.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well for as I want to command. Governor DeSantis and
our agriculture or Agriculture Commissioner Wilson Simpson, they've actually taken
this the bull by the horns with this and at
way stations in Florida, they're actually checking for your ability
to read signs, and they're actually checking immigration statuses through
our two eighty seven g program that's actually helping in Florida.
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The problem nationwide is, you said, New York, California, they're
giving cd a license to illegals who can't even read
They can't read the signs, they don't speak the language,
but you gave them an eighty thousand pound vehicle to
drive on our highways. That puts people at risk. And
it's not about Republicans versus Democrats. It doesn't matter what
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your party is, it doesn't matter what your race is,
it doesn't matter what your gender is. If there is
an illegal alien who cannot read English, doesn't know our language,
driving an eighty thousand pound tractor trailer that brings serious
harms to Americans on New on these roadways, what we've done,
what we can do in Congress. I have a bill,
The Way Act, patterned after what we've done in Florida,
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which would empower the Department of Transportation under Secretary Duffy
to withhold federal funds from jurisdictions that essentially are giving
CDLs to illegal drivers. This is again common sense stuff.
It also gives the Department of Transportation the ability to
check for English proficiency and immigration statuses on every highway
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in the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's not representative. Byron Donald's running for governor the great
State of Florida Byrondnalds dot com go and support as
candidacy there. So, what do you do should you become
the governor Byron with Ron DeSantis, He's done a very
good job, as you said, President Trump would agree with
that since we're away from the primaries where they're going
at each other. But it's a great state run by
a very good governor. Should you come in do you
just continue that course? Do you want to make the
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Byron Donalds change? If so, what is that?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, Joe, first and foremost, we build on the successes
of Governor Desantas. He's done a great job. Best governor
in the country. You build on that success. You don't
come in and start changing things. That doesn't make any sense.
You want to keep those successes going. What I want
to do is continue to build our economy, grow our economy.
We want to make sure we have high paying jobs
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in our state. We want people to be able to
chase the American dream in Florida. I'm blessed enough to
have been to live my life and have lived the
American dream in the great state of Florida, and I
want that for everybody in our state. We want to
make sure our kids are economically viable when they graduate
high school. If you're going to go into the trades
and get a skilled great, let's do that. If you're
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going to go to college, great, let's do that. But
let's make sure when you graduate high school, number one,
you're mastering math, reading, and writing, and number two, you
have a definable skill that can help put food on
the table. We want to be able to continue to
push down insurance costs. The governor has done some great
work on that already. We want to follow up on
that and continue to drive down insurance costs. We have
ninety five the turnpike in seventy five. It's all great.
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We have more infrastructure that we have to build. People
are choosing Florida because we have great policies. We have
the best tax frankly system in the country, and we
leave you the hell alone. We're a free state for
a reason. We're going to continue all that. I want
Florida to become the financial hub of the world. I
think that's very possible. Look at Chicago, look at New York.
They're a mess. Why would people even go there and
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do business? Come to Florida. Do it here. Because of
Cape Canaveral, we're a We are at the hub of
commercial space. We should use that as really the heartbeat
of a tech boom in the state of Florida, where
you're bringing aerospace, defense tech into our state, continuing to
build out our economy. I mean, listen, we're the best
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state in the country, but we're not done growing, We're
not done leading. I want to build off the success
of Governor DeSantis while also making sure Florida remains the
free state of Florida and the very best state in America.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All of my fifteen stations in Texas, you said, oh yeah,
you're the best state in the country will give you.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
An extent, Joe, tell them, sorry, Texas, it's going to
be number two. Though, it's going to be number two.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
But I live in Texas, right well, I have to
I have to support my Texans as well. But again,
my roots are in Florida. The one question that I
hear from Florida residence, and I'm hearing it a lot,
is that they fear the influx of people from New York.
New York City is going to lose millions Byron and
then they're all heading south. Some may be coming here,
but I think most are going to your state of Florida.
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Can you handle that infrastructure wise if you get an
influx of another million people from New York City because
they don't want to handle you know, some mayor with
socialist policies.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh look, it's gonna be tough. But my view is
we have to plan for the future. People are going
to continue to come to Florida because we do it
right in the United States. You know, I've heard the
talk let's build a wall. Look, the truth of the
matter is you can't do that. There's this thing called
the Constitution. We're going to follow the Constitution. One hundred percent.
But what we do is plan. We figure out how
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we're going to build out our road system to accommodate
more people. What are we going to do around housing?
One of the things I want to do. We actually
need to modernize governmental operations. Government needs to move at
the speed of business, not at the speed of government,
because slow government adds unnecessary costs to everybody. Right, So
we need to speed that process up. But one hundred
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percent believe we can accommodate, no doubt about it. But
what that means is infrastructure, how we build homes in
our state. We're gonna have to speed up the process,
speed up the timelines. But listen, when you're the best
thing going, everybody wants to be a part of it. Yeah,
so it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, I agree, and you're gonna get that influx. Let
me ask you something that might be a weird question
to ask, do you want them? And what I mean
by that is there's a good likely chance they're going
to bring a very leftist policy mindset with them, although
they weren't for Mamdani because he's off, he's falling out
of the car to the left and he's a socialist
and maybe even worse than that. But a lot of
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these people still are very blue in their thought processes.
Do you want them in Florida.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, I'll tell you this. We actually had that same
thought process during COVID nineteen. You know, we had a
large influx from the Northeast during COVID nineteen. We were
very concerned are they going to bring their politics with them?
But what we found was they were so sick to
death of terrible Democrat, socialist, insane policy. They chose common sense,
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they chose freedom, and when they came to Florida, they
were Republicans. They came here, they've been voting Republicans. That's
why Governor DeSantis won by such a large margin four
years ago. Donald Trump won Florida by I think it's
thirteen points in the presidential election. People who have come
to Florida, they are choosing the Florida way. They're choosing conservative,
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common sense government. And I think that even if you
have people who are fleeing New York because of Mom Donnie,
they don't they're leaving for a reason because they don't
want to be around for the mess of Mom Donnie.
They're like, you know what, let me get somewhere that
actually makes sense, where my kids can thrive, somewhere where
I can thrive. And I think that, then it's the
responsibility of myself and my Republican colleagues to always remind
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the people of Florida we are the best state for
a reason. Here are the common sense policies that's got
us here. Let's keep the train running. Let's keep the
train going. Don't try, don't bring, don't give it to
the Democrats, because we've already seen what they've done. That's
why you left New York. That's why you left Chicago,
That's why you left Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Bottom line is in Floridians, if you're watching and listening,
make sure you tell anybody who's new to town has
got to fit New York accent. We love you, We're
glad you're here. Leave your voting record back where you
messed it up because coming to South Florida, coming to Florida, period.
But I'm from South Florida. It's a different world. We
used to call it Little New York. Now you've got
all sorts of people who realized they were conservatives, including
in Miami Dade County and Broward County, certainly at Palm
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Beach County, and hopefully that that wave is going to continue.
There's a reason why you guys are doing so well.
I just fear because we've got all sorts of blue
enclaves here in Texas, just that it's going to happen there.
But it does seem as though you guys are doing
it better there. Every big city in this state is
now very blue. You guys seem to be turning blue
cities red in Florida. How are you doing that? That's
very interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Common sense, Joe, I'll tell you common sense. Everything starts
with law and order. We back our law enforcement, We
enforce the law. There will be no compromise, compromise when
it comes to that. Number two, great business environment, low taxes,
low regulation. We leave you alone, We let you live
your life. Number Three, we protect children. We make sure
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they're not indoctrinated. And you know that's what we do.
It's really a common sense. A recipe is that you
don't really have to like do a bunch of like
power points and put on the whole show. You really
don't need to do that. You have to talk about
common sense policies. You have to actually deliver those policies,
which we do in the great State of Florida, and
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then you watch, frankly, your society bloom and thrive. And
then what happens is other people see this and they say, well,
why can't we have that, or they talk to their
their cousin or their friend who made the move to Florida.
And what also what always happens is they say, man,
I'm glad I came to Florida. I should have came
here ten years sooner. And when you do that, and
you're consistent in that approach, then what happens is people
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love your state. They want to come more.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, and hopefully they'll they'll keep on enhancing and improving
your state as you've done over time. And don't bring
that that voting record with him, because you don't want
New York to become or Florida to become New York.
It's Byron Donalds.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That's not going to happen. And listen, I'm gonna tell
you if somebody comes to Florida and they think that, oh,
it should be like how it was in New York,
they're gonna be sadly mistaken because we're not going back
to that we are not Florida. Thirty years ago, Florida
was a blue state. We're never going back. We are
the free state of Florida that's going to remain. It's
gonna be great representative.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Byron Donalds. Go support as candidacy no matter where you're
watching or listening from. You don't have to be in Florida.
Go to Byron Donalds dot com. Byron Donalds dot com,
go support that candidacy. We hope that you win and
win big. My friend. Good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Good seeing you. Thanks, Take it easy. Merry Christmas, Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Merry Christmas. We'll talk to you very soon. You saw
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outlook for how he would run the state of Florida
should he become the next governor. He would pretty much
do what DeSantis is doing. He'd add his own flavor, obviously,
but making massive changes doesn't make any sense when you're
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What you're about to watch matters more than most of
what's floating around out there online right now. It's an
interview with Byron Donald's. There's a lot of lying out there.
There's a lot of intentional confusion about what's going on
at the border, what's going on in our country, what's
going on with the economy, what's going on in the
state of Florida. It's where Byron Donalds is from. You're
going to be hearing from him, a sitting member of Congress,
but he's also a candidate for governor for the Great
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State of Florida. He doesn't speak in slogans. He speaks
in systems, incentives, and actual consequences. In this conversation, we're
going to talk about why Democrats have pushed for open
borders for decades. He gets right down to it. Not
the I wonder what they're doing. No, he tells you
why they're doing it. It's not by accident, it's not
out of compassion. It's a strategy for power and controlled
(00:43):
We're going to break down why sanctuary cities exist, why
ICE is constantly being attacked and being lied about, and
what we can do about changing the narrative and making
people understand exactly what's really going on. We also get
into the uncomfortable truths that are out there, truths that
you have to know. A missing children, how many where
three hundred thousand failed vetting, visa overstays. Why isn't that
(01:03):
a crime? Why is that a civil offense? It's not
a sound by the interview. It's an interview with a
serious guy. It's a serious conversation about voter's freedom and
whether America remains a nation governed by law or by chaos.
It's Byron Donald's watch closely. What he says and what
he lays out is going to explain exactly why things
feel so broken and what you need to really know.
(01:24):
If I have my way, this man is going to
be the next governor of the Great State of Florida.
It's a state where I grew up, but my mother
is stole there, my sisters are stole there. Love the
state a lot. We go as offend as we can.
It's Byron Donald's US Representative District nineteen, the Great State
of Florida, also goob natorial candidate Byron How are you
good to see it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Doing good? Going to be back with you, Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
It's always a pleasure. I want to get into some
stuff that's happening in the news right now, and then
I do want a full throw to talk about your
run for governor. But there's a lot going on. I
just made the mistake on x howne of you follow
me on X but I just said this on there.
I made the mistake of having for you clicked instead
of following. And you've got people at urob elbow with
every day in the House of Representatives that are just
(02:02):
lying about what Trump is doing about immigration, lying about
what Ice is doing out there in the streets, lying
about about everything Trump says, everything you say, everything that
I say, and man, they just get away with it,
almost with impunity. Are there people in that body, I
won't say any names other than maybe Japel and I
won't say maybe Omar. Are there other people that you
(02:23):
can tell me that aren't there representing anybody but their
own interest? Because I don't think these representative districts are
getting any love, any help, any any representation from these people.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
What is going on, frankly, what's going on is that
the Democrats, for more than thirty years in America have
wanted wide open borders, no accountability, and no ability to
actually have an immigration law and process that prioritizes the
American people or Americans. I mean, they've never wanted that.
What they wanted were the last four years under Joe Biden.
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They wanted a wide open border, no checks, no ability
for anybody to say no. This is why they support
sanctuary jurisdictions in Washington State or again California, Illinois, New
York because they have the deranged belief that wide open
borders and no rules around immigration whatsoever actually make the
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country better. And that's just a flat out lie. All
we have to do is look at Europe. Europe is
ten years ahead of where the United States is, and
we see the major immigration problems they have. And the
biggest issue of all pass all the illegal immigration, is
that you don't have assimilation of people coming from other
countries to become a fabric of your own. So this
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is why they lie about what ICE is doing. This
is why you have these Democrats who decide that they're
all going to be tough guys and go stand up
to ICE officers who are doing the job that they
have been hired to do by the commander in chief.
The President of the United States Donald J. Trump. So
that's why they lie, That's why they blame shift, that's
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why they're always trying to find some cause celeb to
rally around. Because what they want is in America with
wide open borders, no immigration checks whatsoever. They want people
from foreign nations to come to America. And in a
lot of respects, the Democrats do want to change the
political fabric of our nation. And they know that Americans
who come here legally excuse immigrants who come through the
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legal channels. Americans here in the United States, we reject
their policies time and time again. So they try to
find new voters, and that's why they believe in wide
open immigration.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
It's Byron Donald Jewish Representative District nineteen, Great State of
Florida running for governor, go and support as candidacy Byron
Donalds dot com Byron Donalds dot com. All right, and
they're understood it because they're flooding the zone into the
greatest nation on the planet. People are coming here because
of all that we have and all that we offer.
Yet when they come here, they try to change what
it is that we stand for, our value system, the
fact that we're Western civilization. You're bringing people in from
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third world countries who allegedly are looking for a better life,
and then they try to make this country like the
country they came from. So you said that they think
it makes America a better place to have all these
people come in. Illgally, I got to take it to
the next level. Isn't this really about power and control?
If they've got a bunch of people here that are
on the dole, that are only relying on government, doesn't
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that give the people that I mentioned and others on
the left this idea that they're somehow monarchs or leaders
or filled with the power. That we all need our
meal from them, we need our electricity from them, are
housing our transportation from them. It seems to be a
power play to me.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Do you agree? Oh, one hundred percent, it's a power play. Listen,
the Democrats what they care about more than anything, Power
and control. That's what they care about. Look at the
policies that they support. I mean, everybody's talking about healthcare
right now, right well, the healthcare problems in the United States.
The fact that insurance premiums and deductibles have gone through
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the roof is the fault of the Democrat Party. They
created this monstrosity. They voted for it. Republicans at the time,
and every year since have I've told the American people
time and time again, this is not going to work.
It's gonna make it unaffordable. It's gonna drive us to
single payer healthcare. That's what the Democrats want, and what
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happens in a single payer healthcare system. You can only
see your doctor when the government allows you to. You
can only get a service when the government allows you to.
That does not sound like a system based upon freedom
and economics which supports people directly. That sounds like a
command and control industry, a command and control society. You
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take a look at what it did under the Biden
administration COVID nineteen. They didn't have an honest debate about
the COVID vaccine. They didn't have honest debates about what
we're gonna be the procedures to help people avoid contracting
COVID nineteen. No, they did the exact opposites. Lockdowns, suppression,
suppression of free speech, blackballing doctors who were trying to
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put the truth out there, shadow banning people. That is
themo of the Democrat Party. So it doesn't really matter
what the issue set is. It's all about power, it's
all about control. So you're call it a monarchy, an oligarchy,
whatever you want. It's about them having political power and
they will do anything to achieve that goal.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
BYRONDONALDS dot Com US representative Byron Donald's running for governor
the Great State of Florida. What do you do about
states like Minnesota where the governor says we're not helping.
In fact, we're gonna hinder your ability to go and
get people that are here breaking the law. Or the mayor,
Mayor Jacob Fry of Minneapolis saying these are bad people
in call nine one one, the police chief saying call
nine one one, these are master men that are kidnapping
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our citizens. And then I mean, even to that end,
go to Illinois where JB. Pritzker is refusing four thousand
detainer requests by Christy Noman the DHS. Isn't there something
that says that's aiding in the betting or harboring. Can't
we do something about them getting in the way of
just enforcing the law.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Well, I will leave that in the hands of the
Attorney General and the director of the FBI. But let's
be very clear, these states and jurisdictions, they do not
have the right to violate federal law. If I had
my way, I would strip them of their funding because
if you're not going to comply with federal law, then
you don't need federal dollars, period, full stop. But in
the interim, what I think is that we are going
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to continue to move forward with the process of sending criminal,
illegal aliens home. That's what we're gonna do, That's what
the President ran on, that's why he won a mandate.
And so now we're not going to take the phony
outrage from the radical left. And now, mind you, this
is the radical left. We're not going to take the
phony outrage from the radical left as gospel as truth.
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It's not. These are actually the complete opposites. They are
lying to their constituencies. They are lying to the American
people because the only thing they're left with is opposing
Donald Trump, because they do not have ideas and policies
that are going to work for the people.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
You know, Byron, are we doing a good enough job
on our side, the right conservatism in getting the message
out Because I just talked about what I just saw
on X when I did by accident for you, and
out of context, Ice is beating up pregnant women. Now,
out of context, Ice is trying to deport us citizens.
None of those things is true, but they keep on
saying it, and they're messaging I mean, million views on
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somebody who posted a short snippitt of a piece of
video with no context about a woman who, by the way,
showed up where Ice was arresting somebody and actually hit
an ICE vehicle with her vehicle. They didn't say any
of that, but I fear the messaging is not where
it needs to be on our side, are we getting
better at that?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
We're getting better. I mean, look, we always have to
message just to one thing as a Republican that the
party never really has been good at it. We're just
starting to get good at it, and I think we're
going to continue to get better. But this is one
of the reasons why President Trump constantly talking to the press,
constantly set in the record straight cabinet meetings that are
actually occurring, where the press gets to ask questions. These
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are the critical things that you have to do. But
we cannot take our foot off the gas. I would
say if twenty twenty five revealed anything is that. Yes,
we were able to pass the press it it's agenda.
Yes we secured the border. Yes we're starting to deport criminal,
illegal aliens. But you have to continue to tell that
story day in day out. You cannot let up.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
It is representative Byron Donalds. Go to Byron Donalds dot
com support its candidacy for governor the Great State of Florida. Well,
we talk about who's here in this country. We saw
the two National Guards members. One died got shot by
somebody who's a terrorist. Allegedly he was here, certainly from
Afghanistan on this allies list that Biden came up with. Byron,
we don't know who's here. We can't vet people from
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third world countries. The war lords in the mountains of
Afghanistan don't have a database that they're sharing with us.
So what do we do. We know that there are
thousands of others that are here. I know that with
the pause that there HR sixty two twenty five. You
want to stop new people coming in who might be
on that certain list or from that certain region. What
do you do about who's here? Now?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
We're gonna have to go through the painstaking process of
vetting people and sending a lot of people home. It's
not going to be easy. It's easy to just let
everybody come in the country with no checks. That's what
Joe Biden was doing. That's what Kamala Harris was doing
in the Democratic left. The hard part is having to
find all those people. Look this the last administration, they
lost what ninety thousand kids, one hundred thousand kids, just
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lost them, had no idea where they were.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
In the I think at one point it was three
hundred thousand was the number. It was like three hundred
and twenty.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
You're probably right, you ever, I don't even remember the
number committed to memories. But they've just lost these kids.
When when Joe Biden allowed unaccompanied miners to come into
the country illegally, Well, if you just lost kids, what
happens with somebody who came in on one of Joe
Biden's lists that actually wants to do harm in the
United States, like the gunman here in Washington, d C.
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Or anywhere else. This is the problem. And so that's
why the Pause Act what it does. It does put
a temporary freeze on immigration. It ends h one b
visus it and then it also has a deliberate process
for us to get the immigration system under control while
also deporting criminal, illegal aliens. That's the prudent thing to do.
That's what anybody, if it's your home, or anybody if
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that's your business, that's what you do. When you're at
capacity or over capacity and you're trying to get people out,
you say, hold on, nobody else can come in. Let
me get these people out first before we restart. It's
common sense stuff. Every business does it, every family does it.
The United States needs to do it as well.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Is it time to make overstaying your visa a crime?
That's civil when it comes to coming across the voter illegally,
as you know, eight USC. Thirteen twenty five means it's
a misdemeanor crime, federal crime to come across the vote.
If you're deported and come back, it's thirteen twenty six,
it's a felony. But if you overstay your visa, it's
a civil infraction. Now it's speaking tickets a civil infraction,
and I can go to jail if I don't pay
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the fine. But I would like to see that called
a crime. And I think Americans on the left are
getting away with saying this is just a civil thing.
It's a nice person. Men here twelve years. If we
make that a crime, that would give it more teeth,
wouldn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
It would. And let's also be clear, the biggest problem
we have, of the big problems we have, we don't
even have a biometric exit system in immigration. The nine
to eleven Commission, and part of their report was is
that we needed to have a biometric entry and exit
system so you could actually track people who were on
visas to make sure that they actually left the country.
(13:18):
We have no idea. The Democrats have opposed a biometric
exit system every single year I filed the legislation the
last two congresses. They completely oppose it. They don't want
to do it. This is one of the reasons I
think the filibusters should be eliminated so we can get
to common sense policy that's actually going to help the
American people. So I think if you're going to go
down the line of making it a crime over saying
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your visas, we have to create a tracking system so
we know when people leave Joe. We don't have that
capability today. It makes no sense at all. This is
another reason why I think we should actually go back
to a quota system in immigration as opposed to chain migration.
Because let's say, let's say you have Brazil. We give
Brazil two thousand visas a year for whatever the reason is, Well,
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look if they're visa. If there's two thousand per year
and only one thousand Brazilians go back at the end
of that visa, that means we have a thousand still
in the country because we were tracking it. So under
a quota system, you could easily say, well, Brazil, guess
what next year, you only get a thousand it's supposed
to two thousand visas because only a thousand of your
foreign nationals actually went back home like they were supposed to.
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These are common sense policies that need to be adopted nationally.
The Democrats want no part of it. As a matter
of fact, what the Democrats really really want they want
to still count illegal aliens and other people in the
country who are not citizens. They want to count them
for the purposes of setting congressional districts. That's what the
Democrats want to do, and so we have to stop
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that kind of nonsense. American policy has to be first
and foremost focused on the American people. Let's do that first.
Then you can deal with immigration, legal immigration people coming in.
So my view is no more migration quota systems, and
immigration a biometric exit system so we can track visa
entrance coming in and also going out. And then if
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these other countries, if they're not going to make sure
that their people are coming back to their country, then
we limit the amount of visas they get next year.
You do that, this whole thing could well be able
to work very seamlessly for the American people.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Well, Byron, the problem is you're filled with common sense.
It doesn't make any sense to the other side. They
wanted to get rid of common sense. It's Byron Donald's
go to Byron Donalds dot com support US candidacy for
Governor of the Great State of Florida in Washington, DC.
We just talked about it a minute ago. The National
Guard presence there has decimated criminals and crime. It has
done an amazing job. Now, of course, we had the
terrorist attack the other day, but I've noticed that a
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lot of people are very very easy on the police
chief there. You're not, and the Oversight Committee isn't. But
a lot of people in Congress, even on our side,
are like, yeah, you know, she's cooperating. She gets it now,
she's coming around. I don't think so. And this is
somebody that we know is punishing people that were giving
their real stats on what crime was happening. She was
cooking the books, and you're not reporting from the oversight
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committe that she was literally removing people because they were
telling the truth. I added that work.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
H Yeah, they were definitely removing people. That's what the
police chief was doing. And it's all because they were
trying to hide the fact, which frankly everybody knew in
DC if you come here. They were hiding the fact
that Democrat policy was leading to massive amounts of crime
in the nation's capital. And so when Donald Trump deployed
the National Guard, a funny thing happened. Crime plummeted in DC.
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I mean plummeted. We had the mayor in a committee
a couple of months ago, Mayor Bowser, she testified under
oath that crime was down forty percent in Washington, d C.
Forty percent from when the president deployed the National Guard.
But you have radical Democrats who do work in the
government in the city of Washington, DC, who were trying
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to hide the truth from the people of d and
from the American people. And back to the first question, Joe,
this was all about power and politics. Crime was rampant
in DC, rampant all over the country. So the Democrats
were lying during the federal the presidential election talking about
how crime was actually coming down. Not true. They were
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cooking the books. They were not reporting crimes, they were
not reporting it to the FBI so that the crime
statistics were accurate, so we could actually compare and contrast.
They don't want to do anything that makes sense, common
sense things like supporting police, supporting law and order. And
that's even before you get to their radical das that
don't want to prosecute crime, which is one of the
(17:40):
biggest issues you have when you have lawlessness, is you
have das that don't want to prosecute. And so instead
of doing the right thing, they cook the books, they lie,
they dissemble, and they try to win an election to
act like nothing ever happened. Donald Trump has proven you
put bodies on the street, support law and order, a
funny thing happens. It becomes a lot safer.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Yeah, it's Byron Donald's go to Byron Donalds dot com.
You've got beautiful highways in Florida. I grew up driving
nine ninety five I seventy five the Turnpike, Saugress Expressway,
US one. It's always a nice drive in A one A.
But you've also got a lot of people now driving
big rigs, not only in Florida but across this country
that are getting CDLs, many of them here illegally from
places like California, the getting a CDL New York. Now,
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you guys are coming down on New York, and the
Transportation Secretary the other day so that he is because
they're hitting out CDLs like their candy. Why does anybody
have a driver's license?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
Byron?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
If they're here illegally Number one, number two, if they
can't read remedial English and read the road signs, what
are you doing behind the wheel of any vehicle much
less than eighteen wheeler? And then we see the stark
videos of these guys who are here illegally, allegedly just
killing families by not knowing how to drive their trucks.
What can you guys, congressually do about that? And should
(18:54):
be you become the governor is at the governor's job
to clamp down and letting people into the state. I
have a CDL in some sort of speecious way.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well for as I want to command. Governor DeSantis and
our agriculture or Agriculture Commissioner Wilson Simpson, they've actually taken
this the bull by the horns with this and at
way stations in Florida, they're actually checking for your ability
to read signs, and they're actually checking immigration statuses through
our two eighty seven g program that's actually helping in Florida.
(19:24):
The problem nationwide is, you said, New York, California, they're
giving cd a license to illegals who can't even read
They can't read the signs, they don't speak the language,
but you gave them an eighty thousand pound vehicle to
drive on our highways. That puts people at risk. And
it's not about Republicans versus Democrats. It doesn't matter what
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your party is, it doesn't matter what your race is,
it doesn't matter what your gender is. If there is
an illegal alien who cannot read English, doesn't know our language,
driving an eighty thousand pound tractor trailer that brings serious
harms to Americans on New on these roadways, what we've done,
what we can do in Congress. I have a bill,
The Way Act, patterned after what we've done in Florida,
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which would empower the Department of Transportation under Secretary Duffy
to withhold federal funds from jurisdictions that essentially are giving
CDLs to illegal drivers. This is again common sense stuff.
It also gives the Department of Transportation the ability to
check for English proficiency and immigration statuses on every highway
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in the United States of America.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
It's not representative. Byron Donald's running for governor the great
State of Florida Byrondnalds dot com go and support as
candidacy there. So, what do you do should you become
the governor Byron with Ron DeSantis, He's done a very
good job, as you said, President Trump would agree with
that since we're away from the primaries where they're going
at each other. But it's a great state run by
a very good governor. Should you come in do you
just continue that course? Do you want to make the
(20:54):
Byron Donalds change? If so, what is that?
Speaker 2 (20:58):
No, Joe, first and foremost, we build on the successes
of Governor Desantas. He's done a great job. Best governor
in the country. You build on that success. You don't
come in and start changing things. That doesn't make any sense.
You want to keep those successes going. What I want
to do is continue to build our economy, grow our economy.
We want to make sure we have high paying jobs
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in our state. We want people to be able to
chase the American dream in Florida. I'm blessed enough to
have been to live my life and have lived the
American dream in the great state of Florida, and I
want that for everybody in our state. We want to
make sure our kids are economically viable when they graduate
high school. If you're going to go into the trades
and get a skilled great, let's do that. If you're
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going to go to college, great, let's do that. But
let's make sure when you graduate high school, number one,
you're mastering math, reading, and writing, and number two, you
have a definable skill that can help put food on
the table. We want to be able to continue to
push down insurance costs. The governor has done some great
work on that already. We want to follow up on
that and continue to drive down insurance costs. We have
ninety five the turnpike in seventy five. It's all great.
(22:02):
We have more infrastructure that we have to build. People
are choosing Florida because we have great policies. We have
the best tax frankly system in the country, and we
leave you the hell alone. We're a free state for
a reason. We're going to continue all that. I want
Florida to become the financial hub of the world. I
think that's very possible. Look at Chicago, look at New York.
They're a mess. Why would people even go there and
(22:24):
do business? Come to Florida. Do it here. Because of
Cape Canaveral, we're a We are at the hub of
commercial space. We should use that as really the heartbeat
of a tech boom in the state of Florida, where
you're bringing aerospace, defense tech into our state, continuing to
build out our economy. I mean, listen, we're the best
(22:44):
state in the country, but we're not done growing, We're
not done leading. I want to build off the success
of Governor DeSantis while also making sure Florida remains the
free state of Florida and the very best state in America.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
All of my fifteen stations in Texas, you said, oh yeah,
you're the best state in the country will give you.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
An extent, Joe, tell them, sorry, Texas, it's going to
be number two. Though, it's going to be number two.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
But I live in Texas, right well, I have to
I have to support my Texans as well. But again,
my roots are in Florida. The one question that I
hear from Florida residence, and I'm hearing it a lot,
is that they fear the influx of people from New York.
New York City is going to lose millions Byron and
then they're all heading south. Some may be coming here,
but I think most are going to your state of Florida.
(23:29):
Can you handle that infrastructure wise if you get an
influx of another million people from New York City because
they don't want to handle you know, some mayor with
socialist policies.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh look, it's gonna be tough. But my view is
we have to plan for the future. People are going
to continue to come to Florida because we do it
right in the United States. You know, I've heard the
talk let's build a wall. Look, the truth of the
matter is you can't do that. There's this thing called
the Constitution. We're going to follow the Constitution. One hundred percent.
But what we do is plan. We figure out how
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we're going to build out our road system to accommodate
more people. What are we going to do around housing?
One of the things I want to do. We actually
need to modernize governmental operations. Government needs to move at
the speed of business, not at the speed of government,
because slow government adds unnecessary costs to everybody. Right, So
we need to speed that process up. But one hundred
(24:19):
percent believe we can accommodate, no doubt about it. But
what that means is infrastructure, how we build homes in
our state. We're gonna have to speed up the process,
speed up the timelines. But listen, when you're the best
thing going, everybody wants to be a part of it. Yeah,
so it makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
No, I agree, and you're gonna get that influx. Let
me ask you something that might be a weird question
to ask, do you want them? And what I mean
by that is there's a good likely chance they're going
to bring a very leftist policy mindset with them, although
they weren't for Mamdani because he's off, he's falling out
of the car to the left and he's a socialist
and maybe even worse than that. But a lot of
(24:57):
these people still are very blue in their thought processes.
Do you want them in Florida.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, I'll tell you this. We actually had that same
thought process during COVID nineteen. You know, we had a
large influx from the Northeast during COVID nineteen. We were
very concerned are they going to bring their politics with them?
But what we found was they were so sick to
death of terrible Democrat, socialist, insane policy. They chose common sense,
(25:25):
they chose freedom, and when they came to Florida, they
were Republicans. They came here, they've been voting Republicans. That's
why Governor DeSantis won by such a large margin four
years ago. Donald Trump won Florida by I think it's
thirteen points in the presidential election. People who have come
to Florida, they are choosing the Florida way. They're choosing conservative,
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common sense government. And I think that even if you
have people who are fleeing New York because of Mom Donnie,
they don't they're leaving for a reason because they don't
want to be around for the mess of Mom Donnie.
They're like, you know what, let me get somewhere that
actually makes sense, where my kids can thrive, somewhere where
I can thrive. And I think that, then it's the
responsibility of myself and my Republican colleagues to always remind
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the people of Florida we are the best state for
a reason. Here are the common sense policies that's got
us here. Let's keep the train running. Let's keep the
train going. Don't try, don't bring, don't give it to
the Democrats, because we've already seen what they've done. That's
why you left New York. That's why you left Chicago,
That's why you left Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Bottom line is in Floridians, if you're watching and listening,
make sure you tell anybody who's new to town has
got to fit New York accent. We love you, We're
glad you're here. Leave your voting record back where you
messed it up because coming to South Florida, coming to Florida, period.
But I'm from South Florida. It's a different world. We
used to call it Little New York. Now you've got
all sorts of people who realized they were conservatives, including
in Miami Dade County and Broward County, certainly at Palm
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Beach County, and hopefully that that wave is going to continue.
There's a reason why you guys are doing so well.
I just fear because we've got all sorts of blue
enclaves here in Texas, just that it's going to happen there.
But it does seem as though you guys are doing
it better there. Every big city in this state is
now very blue. You guys seem to be turning blue
cities red in Florida. How are you doing that? That's
very interesting to me.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Common sense, Joe, I'll tell you common sense. Everything starts
with law and order. We back our law enforcement, We
enforce the law. There will be no compromise, compromise when
it comes to that. Number two, great business environment, low taxes,
low regulation. We leave you alone, We let you live
your life. Number Three, we protect children. We make sure
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they're not indoctrinated. And you know that's what we do.
It's really a common sense. A recipe is that you
don't really have to like do a bunch of like
power points and put on the whole show. You really
don't need to do that. You have to talk about
common sense policies. You have to actually deliver those policies,
which we do in the great State of Florida, and
(27:53):
then you watch, frankly, your society bloom and thrive. And
then what happens is other people see this and they say, well,
why can't we have that, or they talk to their
their cousin or their friend who made the move to Florida.
And what also what always happens is they say, man,
I'm glad I came to Florida. I should have came
here ten years sooner. And when you do that, and
you're consistent in that approach, then what happens is people
(28:17):
love your state. They want to come more.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Yeah, and hopefully they'll they'll keep on enhancing and improving
your state as you've done over time. And don't bring
that that voting record with him, because you don't want
New York to become or Florida to become New York.
It's Byron Donalds.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
That's not going to happen. And listen, I'm gonna tell
you if somebody comes to Florida and they think that, oh,
it should be like how it was in New York,
they're gonna be sadly mistaken because we're not going back
to that we are not Florida. Thirty years ago, Florida
was a blue state. We're never going back. We are
the free state of Florida that's going to remain. It's
gonna be great representative.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
Byron Donalds. Go support as candidacy no matter where you're
watching or listening from. You don't have to be in Florida.
Go to Byron Donalds dot com. Byron Donalds dot com,
go support that candidacy. We hope that you win and
win big. My friend. Good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Good seeing you. Thanks, Take it easy. Merry Christmas, Joe.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Merry Christmas. We'll talk to you very soon. You saw
him make his case about what's going on at the border,
what's going on left versus right, why the left and
the legacy media are lying like they are, and his
outlook for how he would run the state of Florida
should he become the next governor. He would pretty much
do what DeSantis is doing. He'd add his own flavor, obviously,
but making massive changes doesn't make any sense when you're
(29:24):
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