December 28, 2025 • 35 mins
Is the sudden push to reschedule marijuana about your health, or is it a calculated distraction from the collapse of our national sovereignty?
In this episode, Joe connects the dots between two seemingly separate stories to reveal one active threat: Government wants to micromanage your life while they let the country burn.
Part 1: The Border War (with Judge Ted Poe)
- The "Invasion" Reality: Judge Poe confirms what ICE agents are seeing on the ground—this is no longer migration; it is a coordinated military-grade takeover.
- The War Plan: How cartels are seizing territory and why local governments are helping them do it.
Part 2: The Hypocrisy (with Kay Smythe)
- Freedom vs. Control: Kay Smythe exposes the convenient timing of the marijuana rescheduling push.
- The Real Agenda: Why the Feds are obsessing over regulating a plant while refusing to regulate the border.
The Bottom Line: The betrayal is real. The threat is active. Who is the real enemy—the cartels invading us, or the politicians letting them in?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Government is obsessed with micromanaging what you can access for
your own health, obsessing over schedules and regulations, yet at
the same time they refuse to manage the actual invasion
happening at our border. First judged Tedpoe is going to
join me to expose the war plan ice is seen
on the ground and why your local government might be
actually helping the enemy. Then it's going to be case
my Hill breaking down the marijuana rescheduling fight, proving government
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is more obsessed and focused on controlling you than protecting
you and your family to disgrace. Let's get into it.
You and I both know, so you talked about it
over the years that it is illegal. It is a crime,
not a civil event. It is a criminal act to
come across the border illegally. It is a criminal act
of felony to be deported and then come back across
the border illegally. Again, during Biden, he decided we treat
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it like it was civil and give people tps and
use parole and let anybody in everybody and their mother
come in to this country. Trump is doing his level
best to get back to enforcing the law, and the
Left is every single day pounding in that we're detaining
American citizens, we're deporting Americans. So one poor woman is
an American citizen, she's going to be deported. She's raised
in Louisiana. Where you going to deport her to if
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she's from the United States. So ted one side's lying,
the other side isn't. What do you see going on?
You know more about the border than almost anybody I know.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, I went down there thirteen times while I was
in Congress, and it was a war zone then and
now as we know, nobody's crossing across the Texas Mexico border. Generally.
It's really pretty simple the way I see it, big picture,
Almost all countries in the world protect their borders except us.
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If I wanted to go down to well, pick any country.
This is France. If I want to take my family
over to France, and I would come into France and say, look,
I'm here, take care of me and my family, educatus,
give us free medic that kick us out of the country.
You go to any country that would do that, even
third world countries, which we can't use that phrase anymore.
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Somebody protects the border except us. Try going to sound
some of these South American countries or Central American countries
and do what I just said. We wouldn't do that.
Why they'd kick us out of the country. But we
don't do that. And we have been sold to biddle
of goods by the left that we should let everybody in.
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And we have seen through history countries that let everybody
in from some other place, that country usually is overthrown
by somebody else. So we want to protect our borders.
We want to just regulate who comes in. We ought
to be able to say no or yes. That should
be our decision. It shouldn't be some left wing professor
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at Brown or at some other university saying that this
is the way it ought to be. We ought to
follow the law, and all Ice is doing is following
the law. You don't come to America without permission, end
of story. If you are here illegally, however you got here.
But if you're here illegally, you got to go home. Sorry.
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That's just one of the rules to protect the sovereignty
of the United States. And this idea that we should
let everybody in, even if they snuck in, we should
forgive them, take care of them, make sure that they
get pre medical, free schooling, and everything else they want
and allow them to carry signs hating on America. No,
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that's wrong. And those on the left who object to that, well,
you know they need therapy, and especially those people who
have come from other countries who are now in the
United States demanding that we allow people to come in
and live off the rest of us doing so illegally.
Let me just say this other thing. The United States legally,
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legally let's in over a million people a year from
all over the world that come the right way. And
we know, you know a lot of the people, so
do I. But that's a lot of people. That's more
than all of Europe does in a year. And so
ten years, that's ten million people we let in legally
get in the line for that list, or stay where
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you have come from and don't come to the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It is a former representative, former judge, and mathematician. Turns
out ten times a million is ten million. I just
checked it, Ted, So you're right what you just said.
The pretty quick math there, Poe.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So well.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Of the public schools, right, let's talk about Minneapolis. You
have this police chief come out. His name is Brian O'Hara.
He comes out full regalia as if he's really a
law enforcement officer, and he says, if you see people
who are dressed as law enforcement in the city of
Minneapolis grabbing people off the streets, they might not really
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be law enforcement. They might be kidnappers. Called nine one
to one, and then Jacob Pry, the mayor of Minneapolis,
walks up and says, the Somali community, by the way,
in Minneapolis, they're all they're all entrepreneurs, they're all our
doctors and our lawyers. Well that then we don't have
them any Minneapolis, I guess. So if you see somebody,
because they're dropping one hundred federal agents into our city,
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if you see somebody doing something that looks like excessive force,
or we see somebody doing something that you know is
somehow illegal, call the authorities. They're making all sorts of funds. Now,
I'm going to give you a fund to protect the
Somalis who are hiding or something. They want to open
their businesses tay is any of that legal. Can a
police chief come out and say, called nine one one
on ICE when he knows ICE is in town. Can
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the mayor say, do not help ICE and report them
when you see them?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
If a person helps another person resist arrest, that is
a crime, and it's a federal crime, and it's also
a local crime. And encouraging people to go out and
bolate the law and fight against ICE to keep them
from doing their legal job, and you're acting illegally, that's
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wrong and it's illegal to do that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
We need to look at the backstory on all of
the Somalia allegations that are taking place in Minnesota and
figure out some of the way people got in here
legally or illegally, and we need to follow us a nation,
need to follow up on that. I believe this is
my personal opinion that the government, the government officials of
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Minnesota are given a pass on this. They have known
what's taking place. They don't care. They don't care. They
don't care about the fraud that's taking place and health care.
They don't care because they think it's okay to do
what they do. Well, those people need to get out
of office what they're doing. I think that the federal
government should enforce the rules of immigration and local officials
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who are probably making money off of US campaign money
for fighting against the MINO ICE, I think that they
should be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Voters.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The voters in Minnesota need to look at what's going
on and see if that's the kind of place they
want to live or whether they don't want to live there.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So well, well, the DOJ wants to see their voting
roles to make sure that voters of Minnesota actually have
a say. I think the franchise probably is being stolen
from some good people in Minnesota and being somehow jockeyed
around with. I hope they we'll get the real story
on that. But when it comes down to it, the
only reason these raids are happening, and Ted, you and
I have talked about this a lot, is because places
like Illinois will not honor four thousand detainers that DHS
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ask them to honor, they won't do it. And in Minnesota,
they're not only not honoring detainers, they're now helping people
to not open their businesses. Again, the mayor said, we're
starting a fund to give you money and food and
services so that you don't have to be in the
streets and get picked up by ice. And again Ice
is only picking up people who are here illegally, and
the only reason they're even in town is because Jacob
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Fry and the governor of the state. Walls will not
cooperate with DHS, just like JB. Pritzker and Johnson won't
in Illois in Chicago. I mean, that's really the bottom line, right.
If they just said, Okay, here are the bad guys,
leave everybody else alone, ICE wouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, true, that's what many jurisdictions do. You have some
person that's in a jurisdiction and they're in custody for
a local offense, but they're in the country illegally, and
there's a detainer lodged against them by the federal government.
Will hold that person X number of hours or days
before so federal government can come pick them up safely,
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pick them up when they're in a safe position, both
of them are. But Minnesota apparently doesn't want.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So what do they do. They let that person go
back into the community and then ICE has to go
track them down and find them and legally then arrest them.
That way, it's better for everybody if the local police
and mayors work with the idea that if a person's
illegally in the country, we're going to help remove them
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from the country. But they don't want to do that
because they want him to stay. They think it's we're wrong,
so they don't like the law, so they won't follow
the law. That's basically I think the position of these
local officials and the governors who want to give a
sanctuary for people illegally in the country.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It is a Ted Pogo follow Hm. I judged Ted
Poe over on X. Let's talk about something that I
saw just a little while ago. On X some guy
did a video where he's talking about a thirteen year
old being detained by ice. Now, maybe I don't understand
the laws as well as I thought, but I have
been pulled over a lot in my life. I've got
a little sports cars, and when I get pulled over, oddly,
I'm not an American citizen. Oddly, I'm being detained by
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police until the contact with police is over, contact that
I may or may not have instigated with my heavy
right foot. Am I allowed to say, Hey, I'm an
American citizen, you can't detain me. I don't care who
you are. I'm allowed to do anything I want. Because
this thirteen year old allegedly, if the story's even real,
the guy might have made it up. But this thirteen
year old legedly is an American citizen? Are police allowed
to detain American citizens? Did something change?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Police are allowed to detain American citizens when they have
cause to detain them, such as like a person speeding
like you, speeding down god B thirty going over eighty five.
You know, yes, And they have a right to investigate
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a stop and detain momentarily for the purpose of stopping them.
And you have to show identification. You know, when the
police stop somebody, even on the street or in your car,
what do they want? They want identification? Identify who you are.
And you saying I'm an American citizen or I'm the governor,
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or I'm a member of Congress or whatever, that doesn't
mean anything. You have got to prove who you say
you are, or the police need to find out who
they're actually dealing with. They do that for their own safety,
and they do it to see if they're stopping a person,
this particular person for the right reason. So the police
have that.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm gonna be inundated, gonna I'm gonna be inundated by
emails and by by exes. Now, the police have every
right to do that, provided the reason they're making the
contact is legitimate. And again, if you're running with a
bunch of people who are here illegally, If you're in
the midst of an apartment where two criminal illegals are
being picked up by Ice, they have every right to
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detain you and find out who the hell you are.
They have every single right to do that. Now, cop
can't stop me in the sidewalk and say you look funny,
give me your ID. Not in Texas they can't. But
if there's some reason somebody said that guy, we're.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
In that shirt. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Because if I got trapped of berbing and funny looking
tea be stopped every day, So at the end, at
the end of the day, you have to be making
official contact. And they always leave the context out to
be a script videos.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It can't be a pretext right under any circumstance. Police
can't stop you under a pretext. He looks he looks suspicious,
so he looks like he's from New York.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Right that he stopped every day, that's true. I just
just want to make sure I cleared that. I because
there is so much stupidity online right now, and unfortunately
people fall for it, and I want them to stop
falling for it. That's why I keep on doing the
work I try to do. That's why I keep bringing
you back on talk about what is and what is
in llegal. Let's talk about Venezuela. Last night, Tucker Carlson said,
I have good information from members of Congress at Trump's
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speech tonight, he's going to announce that we're going to
war with Venezuela. Now, the last time I checked, you've
got to talk to Congress before you go to war
with anybody. If you're actually going to war. Now, if
you're blowing up boats off the coast, you're allowed to
do that, going after terrorist organizations, drug runners, and whatever
else is there forgetting that. Tucker was dead wrong about that.
I generally liked the guy, but that was just weird.
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Let's talk about blowing boats up that are loaded to
the brim with cocaine off the coast of Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Do we have the right to do it?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
All? Right? Let's back up a little bit about Congress,
who generally doesn't do a whole lot. They have voted
twice to stop Trump from doing what he's doing. And
both of those boats sponsored by the left failed House
of Representatives. So they were voting on whether or not
his conduct was authorized under the War Powers Act of
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seventy three, and it failed both times. Therefore, I think
giving the go ahead to buy the house to do
what Trump was doing. About the boats. What has been
going on for years is that drugs have been being
manufactured in Colombia and Venezuela, and they've been put in
boats made boats that are concealed in the jungles. They
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fabricate them, they put the cocaine stuff it in there,
and then they run them down the rivers, put them
in the Atlantic, and put them in the Pacific. They
have no flag. That's a big deal under international law.
They're not flying a flag, they have no transponder. They
don't know they're what people are what they are, And
the coastguard occasionally would catch one of these folks and
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pull them over. And before they could pull them over
to see if there are drugs, they sink the boat.
Why do they sink the boat because the evidence is
gone And that's been going on really for a long time.
The drugs are gone, then the so called fishermen are
rescued and we have to take them back to their
country of origin. So we spend taxpayer money to do
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it again, it again, just to do it again, and
they've been doing laughing at us the whole time. Trump said,
We're not going to do that. We're gonna if you're
not flying a flag, you have all the markings of
look like a drug boat, which they all are, We're
gonna blow you out of the water because you're committing
a really an act of aggression against the United States.
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You're bringing in drugs into the US. These drug cartels,
now two of them from Venezuela have been marked as
terrorist organizations by the United States, and you are going
to suffer the consequences. Blows them out of the water.
You know something that I think it works. They're not fishermen.
They don't ever find any fishing poles or nets or
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fish or fish.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You kind of need one of those things if you're
going fishing, right, you need a couple of those items.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I would think think they'd be something, and you don't.
You know, you don't fish with a speed boat going
that fast anyway, So they're not fishermen and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You can't control at eighty miles an hour. I didn't
know that. It is, uh, it is Ted Poe we
love having Ted on. So when when the left goes
nuts like they're going and they keep on saying this
is a war crime, that Pete hag Seth and Donald
Trump are war criminals, they're they're legitimately they're supporting its
sponsoring and backing the drug runners. Ted, what the hell
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happened to the Democrats he used to rub elbows with
in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. Do
they really think that Americans are going to buy that
the good people are the ones on the boats and
the bad people are the ones keeping drugs from coming here.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It seems like they're always taking the wrong side. They
take the side of the criminals and that commit crimes
in our country. They could take the side of people
illegally in the country over the law. Then now they're
taking the side of the worst people on earth smuggling
poison into the United States that will kill Americans, and
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those folks are making money off of it. And now
all of a sudden they have their new poster people,
and that's the drug runners into the United States. I
don't know why they take that side. They're taking the
wrong side. They should take the American side, the side
of America, not the side of terrorist organizations.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
But they remark like that it's Ted Poe. Of course
he was a triathlete back in the early seventies. But
a hamstring issue, hamstring, which is what happened Tad. I
got about a minute. Are are we going to see
the end of Ukraine Russia in our lifetimes? What the
hell's going on with that? I got about a minute left.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I can't answer that question. I just think we ought
to quit given money to anyone involved in of course Ukraine,
and of course you know where I stand on that,
we've been spending money over there. I don't know if
we're going to get a sea spar. I think it's
going to boil down to this one issue. It's going
to continue until it hurts Putin, until he figures out
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that it's whatever's happening hurting him. Well, I don't think so.
He'd quit so and I don't think he's going to quit.
He wants a certain part of Ukraine and he's not
going to quit until he gets it. I think we
ought to realize that. And he hasn't been hurt enough.
The country of Russia hadn't been hurt enough. Otherwise they
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would start stop.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Uh, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We need to send you over there to get it settled.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, that that make him stop immediately? This New Yorker
guy who speeds down the road all the time and
he's Italian. Let's just stop the war it is, Tedpoe,
go follow him at judged, Ted Poe, ky, fill me
and please let me understand what the hell this means
that we went from Schedule one to Schedule three. That
didn't make it legal, it didn't decriminalize it, but it
puts it in a different category. Do you know what
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the hell President Trump did last week?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So essentially it was just common sense Paul Sea making.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I just want to clarify for everyone.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Faically, I didn't know that many terms for cannabis.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That was pretty impressive. Are you sure.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I know a lot of words. I just know a
lot of words. So what does this mean? So it
was really really bad. Now it's still bad, but not
as bad. What does this mean?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It's well, cannabis has never actually been that bad, like
as a substance. It's just not. And I say this
as literally an experts. One of the few things I
can say I'm an expert in route my dissertation partly
on cannabis and cannabis scheduling.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Back in the UK.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
This was pre Brexit, where there was some hope that
our veterans might be able to get the help that
they need, people with mental health issues could get the
sort of help they needed from what is essentially a
substance that is not only incredibly useful for people in
terms of like manufacturing, like textiles, things like that, but
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is very helpful as an alternative to those hideous synthetic
drugs opioids. Even a lot of people, you know, I've
seen online saying like, we have plenty of good drugs
that help people who are in pain, help people with nausea,
and of life care people who are dealing with disgusting
side effects from particularly cancer drugs, but also vicious side
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effects from things like opioids. You know, when we think
of opioids, Joe, I think most people go to you know, fentanyl,
they go to crisis that you saw hero Well, yeah,
it's all heroin, right, Like every single opioid. You're just
getting prescription heroin. Every single time someone sits there and
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tells me like, oh I've got an adderall prescription I
just think okay, so you've got a prescription for essentially
crystal meth or speed cocaine, any of those kind of oppers.
It's exactly the same as those. But we think because
it comes in a little pell bottle that it's safe
and good for you.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It's really bad for you. And anyone who thinks otherwise
is kidding themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Let me tell me a little context. And this is
from my area. You're way too young. Of course, you
know who Elvis is. But Elvis was loaded full of
drugs and he was for years and years and years.
And I hate even saying that. I'm such a fan.
And he was certainly, you know, an idol of mind
when it comes to music and performing. But the guy
was taking it. But it was all prescription, and he
literally said, no, this is okay. The doctors gave me this.
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And that's what you're talking about. How many people go
and they've got a back surgery or something, they get
on some sort of oxy, some form of oxy, and
they're just stuck on it. Now they just can't get
off of it. They're hooked on pain pills. So we're
talking about really really hard drugs that for some reason
people are using thinking it's perfectly fine because some doctor
wrote a prescription for it. And then there's marijuana that
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we try to vilify like it's the worst thing on
the planet. And I don't do marijuana. I don't smoke,
I don't drink alcohol. I'll do any of that stuff.
But I've said this a million times. If alcohol is
available and legal to adults in America, why wouldn't marijuana be.
And many people watching listening things that I'm a pothead
nocause I said that. No, the bottom line is, I
don't think there's ever been a study that shows it's
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a gateway drug. And I've said this a million times.
I'd much rather be in the highway with somebody who's
stoned than somebody who's drunk. Now, I don't want to
be in the highway with either one of them, but
I've had my choice. It's gonna be the guy going
twenty in the slow lane.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
And I think that's like a misconception that a lot
of people have that, you know, cannabis is up there
with meth, particularly P two P meth, which is like
the one stop shop for psychosis that we have along
with sort of like all those different like SSRIs, prescription drugs,
opiates just essentially being yeah, prescription heroin, Benzo's not really
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far off the same kind of thing, highly addictive, highly dangerous.
You should not be operating any machinery really when your
mind is altered in any way, shape or form. I mean,
like I'm pregnant, I'm stone cold, sober, and every way
like that possibly imaginable, And I don't think I should
be operating heavy machinery because my brain is.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Emails and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm gonna get now that you just suggested pregnant women
shouldn't be operating heavy machinery.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There running the front end loader in the back hoe, No.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Don't.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I was like I was putting together another chicken coop,
Like I'm eight months pregnant, I'm still going out trying
to do all of this stuff, and I keep getting
told that you need to sit down and chill, but no.
So basically, what this rescheduling has done has essentially gone
down that sort of common sense policy route of moving
cannabis away from being scheduled, the same way the heroin, fentanyl,
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all these drugs that actually do kill people. You know,
we have zero recorded deaths due to cannabis. Ever, you
literally cannot overdose on it. And all those people sitting
around being like, oh, well, my cousin or like my brother,
my son, he like ate a weed gummy once and
he went insane. He could eat mushrooms and go insane.
It's a temporary state, and yeah, you might get some
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flashbacks from it, but like nothing that literally talk therapy
can't cure. And I don't care about all of people
who are going to blow me up and yell at
me and say that I'm wrong yelling at me.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You're be yelling at me. It's case.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I feel that she's done the research. She's a very
very smart lady. So talk to me about what this
actually means. It was this schedule, now it's this schedule.
Does that mean that veterans who need it can get
it even if it's not so called legalized in a
particular state. What people don't understand is that the individual
states have been passing laws and changing the ways to
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deal with marijuana for a long time, but the federal
government has not changed the schedule. The federal government at
any moment could come into any state USA and say
we're shutting down your dispensaries because it's illegal, they aren't
doing that. They've left it alone. So what does this
change in schedule literally mean?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Do we know?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I think what it ultimately means is not only do
we like, does every state now have to look at
this from like a feacing perspective differently, Like there is
not a human being under the sun who should be Like,
if you're illegally dealing drugs, there's a big difference between
illegally dealing pot versus illegally dealing heroin. People are gonna
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die from the heroine that you supply. You know, we've
already seen. Like there are rumors Joe that one of
the main reasons that we went into the Middle East
in the early two thousands. Yes we had nine to eleven,
which you know, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
But there's a lot of rumors that one of the
reasons we went in was really to grab hold of
the opium trade, and we protected it as a country
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by the way.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like that was something grows all the poppies, right.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, it grows all the poppies.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
But I think for us here at home, what this
kind of does is it removes those legal stigmas that
are associated with cannabis, which allows for I think a
lot of doors and windows to open in the research
side of things. So I think we're gonna see probably
the tobacco industry, definitely the pharmaceutic I mean I already
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know people in the tobacco and the pharmaceutical industry who
are literally just waiting for cannabis to be fully legalized,
not just in terms of like they want to create
medical systems because they know that cannabis is a much
safer substance than all the stuff that they've been prescribing
and giving people since you know, pretty much pretty much
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since like the turn of the last century, like when
we went from eighteen hundreds to nineteen hundreds. But again
through manufacturing, like when you can use cannabis based products,
like even just the stem, when you break those things
down from cannabis and from hemp, which is same plant,
but like one has the sort of stoner side effects
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the other one doesn't. But when you sort of break
down these plants into all the different factions that they
can be broken into, we can actually revolutionize American manufacturing
in a million different ways. I mean, we could literally
bring it all home. I mean, we don't have time
to get into it today, but it really is a
wonder plant in that way, the like in the same
(26:11):
way that sort of like opium, and you know, even
like mushrooms. All of these other different naturally occurring substances
just aren't, like really really like just aren't.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And so I think what.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
We're seeing is a gradual move towards understanding the benefits
of this stuff far outway any costs. Again, I don't like,
you can't really put cannabis and alcohol in the same bucket,
because you speak to any social worker in the world,
and they're going to tell you the worst drug out
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there across the spectrum of drugs, They're going to tell
you that the worst drug out there is alcohol.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like true, And I've talked about the civillion times though.
The liquor lobby is why is why marijuana is not legal.
That's why they spent all the money they possibly could
one hundred years ago. So to say this is a horrible,
disgusting they vilified it. You can't possibly have this but
drink some more are straight you know, one hundred and
ninety proof. So I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
Last question, on this because I want to move on
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a couple other things. Is it a gateway drug, You've
done the studies. I contend that it's not, but there
are people who suggest it is.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Actually, you know what I'd say the biggest gateway drug
is is narcissistic parenting. Like if you're sitting there thinking like, oh,
the reason that my child has problems is because they
smoke weed, you need to go home and look in
the mirror, sit down and listen to what your child
actually has to say, because I guarantee they've been telling
you the problems that they have their whole lives, and
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you refuse to listen to them. Cannabis is not a
gateway drug. Cannabis is what most people who use cannabis
use it to chill out at the end of the day.
And it's a heck of a lot healthier than even
your glass of wine or your mums sitting there thinking
that you're all high and mighty and neither.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
K nor I are suggesting you smoke or drink. We're
just giving you the facts. Yeah, it is a case
my phill exactly right. No, no, Hello, I've been sober
for a million years. This is and this is what
you get now. I drank a little bit, not much
back in there. I am not a good A good drinker,
A takes away too much, got to drink like a
too way too much even feel anything that's dumb, just
(28:23):
a waste of money. And b why lose control of
your faculties all the time. I don't understand that. All right,
let's let's move on to this, because I did not
know about this. Ted Cruz is suggesting he's running again
for president. Nolt that for me, the farm Team, jd Vance, obviously,
Marco Rubio, obviously, Ron desanthis, obviously Ted Cruz is jumping.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
In What did you hear?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I read it on Newsmax today?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
That again?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
That again, Ted.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Cruz is floating the idea of a run at twenty
twenty eight. And I gotta tell you, Joe, like, there
is no one in my generation who looks at Ted
Cruz and thinks, oh yeah, he's trustworthy, Oh yeah, he's
someone that we want to listen to.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
It breaks my heart because he's just gone so off
the deep end on social media, which is you know
where most people end of the age of forty get
their news these days. So I just I feel bad
for the guy. I know a lot of people who
work on his campaigns. I know a lot of people
close to head. He is, by all regards, a really good,
really nice guy, excellent lawyer. He's amazing for the state
(29:26):
of Texas. But he does not have a shoe in
but he I think he's going to raise a heck
of a.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Lot of money.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I just have a gut feeling that he is going
to raise a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Ted forever, I understand you, and I hear what you're saying.
I think that was maybe a suggestion toward Israel. Maybe
what I know. Having said that, Ted is a very
smart guy. He's a very good senator. I consider him
a professional friend. We've known each other a very long time.
You're right, he's a very nice guy, very smart man.
He was not prepared for the for that interview with Tucker.
(30:01):
That was kind of dumb. But how do you raise
money knowing that the big three I just mentioned are
the big three? There's no doubt President Trump is going
to say jd Vance is the guy. I don't see
why he wouldn't say that. As he leaves he thinks
that jd Vance is the next guy up. And then
Marco Rubio has proven himself like crazy as the Secretary
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of State.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Holy crap.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I never knew Marco had that in him. And then
Ron DeSantis was like the front runner other than Trump
the last time around, and he's done great wonders for Florida.
I guess I don't understand why right now would make
sense for Ted Cruz. What he knows, those three are
already like batting first, second, and third in the major leagues.
He's like a minor league right now when it comes
to presidential races. He's not even in the ballpark.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Do you know.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
I hadn't even thought about the Israel And I was
thinking more in terms of like the sort of Texan
big oil, like you guys have so much industry down there,
like no, but yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, but yeah, I've got a stuff because I live here. No, yeah,
nobody in big oil, in big billionaires you know from Midland,
Texas are going. Man, I can't wait for Ted CRUs
to run.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Maybe there are allegiances there that I don't know about,
but I mean, I am not hearing that, and I'm here,
and I think that I would. I mean, I talk
to everybody who wants to run for anything in this state.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
So I'm not sure that that's really what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I said Israel because on the debate with Tucker Carlson
and he was defending a pack, he was defending Israel,
so on and so forth. I've got no problem with Israel,
you know how I feel about that. But I don't
see like Big Texas going Ted's our guy. Maybe I don't.
I'm not in the conversation that could. So that's what
you were talking about. Do you think he's maybe getting
that Lincoln or not? Because why else even suggested?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I think it's that.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I think it's data centers. I think I sadly, Joe,
I think the only reason the Ted thinks that he's
got a chance at running is he might live in
a bit of an echo chamber. Everyone takes money from APAC.
That doesn't make him special in any way, shape or form.
I think there's like three people in like all of
politics ever that haven't taken money from them, and there's
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so much money to go around that Yeah, Like if
any I listen, I'm completely with you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I think it's Vance.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Rubio, and then I think DeSantis, he definitely has a
shot of being in that administration, but I don't know
what that looks like. I don't see him being he
can't compete for me, he can't compete with the other
two for the presidential nomination. I do see him actually
being an incredible secretary of State. He deserves a place
(32:31):
in the administration above literally everyone else in politics in
the entire country, because I just like, I've never met
anyone who lives in Florida who is unhappy about living in.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Florida, which I think is incredible.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Like I can't even think of another state where that
is happening. But for Ted, I think this is just
something he really, really, really really wants, and I think
he's got a lot of people around him telling him
that it's a good idea because they just don't want
to hurt his feelings. And so as great as I
think today, I feel like someone che needs to give
him a hug and be like, buddy, no.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
No, I've got one minute, but I really do want
you to talk about this diversity visa program.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You're not here in a diversity visa, right, No.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I came out here. For the first ten years I
was on an one visa expert in my field.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
And then uh, now why would diversity?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Why did we want diversity? We keep diversity is not
our strength. Let me make that as clear as I can,
Like Charlie Kirk said, unity is our strength. Yes, come
from diverse parts of the world and diverse cultures and
backgrounds and skin tones, and then become one and then
unite in the in this country for our future and
to make a better country. So why was this even
put in place? Do you know why we have something
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called a diversity visa?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean it's been around for a heck of a
long time, Like are really like it predates I think
even my existence on the planet, Like it's been around forever.
I can't tell you the number of people I know, Joe.
The other term for the diversity visa program is the
visa lottery. So there's a handful of countries where if
people like even Britain. Actually now so it used to
be that there were so many people from Britain who
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applied through regular means to get a visa to work
in the States that the States was like, you don't
get the lottery, you don't get to be part of.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
The diversity visa program. Because we have enough of you.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
But Britain was actually supposed to be on the list
this year, so people I knew, people I know are
actually waiting for the Diversity Visa lottery to open up
so they could apply to it and potentially get a
visa that way. I know so many Australians that have
done the same thing. I don't know why this thing exists.
I do, personally kind of think it's dumb. I think
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everyone should have to.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Work to be able to be here. That's just me.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I went about it the legit, legal way.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I didn't get any special treatment.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So you know, well, I we're so glad you did.
I'm so glad that you're here. It is Casemi Field.
Go follow her casemyifel dot com. Go follow her at
casemith over on socials. See her on Newsmax, where she's
a contributor. K You're amazing, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Thanks Joe, You're amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
Government is obsessed with micromanaging what you can access for
your own health, obsessing over schedules and regulations, yet at
the same time they refuse to manage the actual invasion
happening at our border. First judged Tedpoe is going to
join me to expose the war plan ice is seen
on the ground and why your local government might be
actually helping the enemy. Then it's going to be case
my Hill breaking down the marijuana rescheduling fight, proving government
(00:23):
is more obsessed and focused on controlling you than protecting
you and your family to disgrace. Let's get into it.
You and I both know, so you talked about it
over the years that it is illegal. It is a crime,
not a civil event. It is a criminal act to
come across the border illegally. It is a criminal act
of felony to be deported and then come back across
the border illegally. Again, during Biden, he decided we treat
(00:45):
it like it was civil and give people tps and
use parole and let anybody in everybody and their mother
come in to this country. Trump is doing his level
best to get back to enforcing the law, and the
Left is every single day pounding in that we're detaining
American citizens, we're deporting Americans. So one poor woman is
an American citizen, she's going to be deported. She's raised
in Louisiana. Where you going to deport her to if
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she's from the United States. So ted one side's lying,
the other side isn't. What do you see going on?
You know more about the border than almost anybody I know.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Well, I went down there thirteen times while I was
in Congress, and it was a war zone then and
now as we know, nobody's crossing across the Texas Mexico border. Generally.
It's really pretty simple the way I see it, big picture,
Almost all countries in the world protect their borders except us.
(01:38):
If I wanted to go down to well, pick any country.
This is France. If I want to take my family
over to France, and I would come into France and say, look,
I'm here, take care of me and my family, educatus,
give us free medic that kick us out of the country.
You go to any country that would do that, even
third world countries, which we can't use that phrase anymore.
(02:00):
Somebody protects the border except us. Try going to sound
some of these South American countries or Central American countries
and do what I just said. We wouldn't do that.
Why they'd kick us out of the country. But we
don't do that. And we have been sold to biddle
of goods by the left that we should let everybody in.
(02:20):
And we have seen through history countries that let everybody
in from some other place, that country usually is overthrown
by somebody else. So we want to protect our borders.
We want to just regulate who comes in. We ought
to be able to say no or yes. That should
be our decision. It shouldn't be some left wing professor
(02:45):
at Brown or at some other university saying that this
is the way it ought to be. We ought to
follow the law, and all Ice is doing is following
the law. You don't come to America without permission, end
of story. If you are here illegally, however you got here.
But if you're here illegally, you got to go home. Sorry.
(03:07):
That's just one of the rules to protect the sovereignty
of the United States. And this idea that we should
let everybody in, even if they snuck in, we should
forgive them, take care of them, make sure that they
get pre medical, free schooling, and everything else they want
and allow them to carry signs hating on America. No,
(03:27):
that's wrong. And those on the left who object to that, well,
you know they need therapy, and especially those people who
have come from other countries who are now in the
United States demanding that we allow people to come in
and live off the rest of us doing so illegally.
Let me just say this other thing. The United States legally,
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legally let's in over a million people a year from
all over the world that come the right way. And
we know, you know a lot of the people, so
do I. But that's a lot of people. That's more
than all of Europe does in a year. And so
ten years, that's ten million people we let in legally
get in the line for that list, or stay where
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you have come from and don't come to the United States.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
It is a former representative, former judge, and mathematician. Turns
out ten times a million is ten million. I just
checked it, Ted, So you're right what you just said.
The pretty quick math there, Poe.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
So well.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Of the public schools, right, let's talk about Minneapolis. You
have this police chief come out. His name is Brian O'Hara.
He comes out full regalia as if he's really a
law enforcement officer, and he says, if you see people
who are dressed as law enforcement in the city of
Minneapolis grabbing people off the streets, they might not really
(04:49):
be law enforcement. They might be kidnappers. Called nine one
to one, and then Jacob Pry, the mayor of Minneapolis,
walks up and says, the Somali community, by the way,
in Minneapolis, they're all they're all entrepreneurs, they're all our
doctors and our lawyers. Well that then we don't have
them any Minneapolis, I guess. So if you see somebody,
because they're dropping one hundred federal agents into our city,
(05:09):
if you see somebody doing something that looks like excessive force,
or we see somebody doing something that you know is
somehow illegal, call the authorities. They're making all sorts of funds. Now,
I'm going to give you a fund to protect the
Somalis who are hiding or something. They want to open
their businesses tay is any of that legal. Can a
police chief come out and say, called nine one one
on ICE when he knows ICE is in town. Can
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the mayor say, do not help ICE and report them
when you see them?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
If a person helps another person resist arrest, that is
a crime, and it's a federal crime, and it's also
a local crime. And encouraging people to go out and
bolate the law and fight against ICE to keep them
from doing their legal job, and you're acting illegally, that's
(05:57):
wrong and it's illegal to do that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
We need to look at the backstory on all of
the Somalia allegations that are taking place in Minnesota and
figure out some of the way people got in here
legally or illegally, and we need to follow us a nation,
need to follow up on that. I believe this is
my personal opinion that the government, the government officials of
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Minnesota are given a pass on this. They have known
what's taking place. They don't care. They don't care. They
don't care about the fraud that's taking place and health care.
They don't care because they think it's okay to do
what they do. Well, those people need to get out
of office what they're doing. I think that the federal
government should enforce the rules of immigration and local officials
(06:47):
who are probably making money off of US campaign money
for fighting against the MINO ICE, I think that they
should be held accountable.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Voters.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
The voters in Minnesota need to look at what's going
on and see if that's the kind of place they
want to live or whether they don't want to live there.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
So well, well, the DOJ wants to see their voting
roles to make sure that voters of Minnesota actually have
a say. I think the franchise probably is being stolen
from some good people in Minnesota and being somehow jockeyed
around with. I hope they we'll get the real story
on that. But when it comes down to it, the
only reason these raids are happening, and Ted, you and
I have talked about this a lot, is because places
like Illinois will not honor four thousand detainers that DHS
(07:30):
ask them to honor, they won't do it. And in Minnesota,
they're not only not honoring detainers, they're now helping people
to not open their businesses. Again, the mayor said, we're
starting a fund to give you money and food and
services so that you don't have to be in the
streets and get picked up by ice. And again Ice
is only picking up people who are here illegally, and
the only reason they're even in town is because Jacob
(07:52):
Fry and the governor of the state. Walls will not
cooperate with DHS, just like JB. Pritzker and Johnson won't
in Illois in Chicago. I mean, that's really the bottom line, right.
If they just said, Okay, here are the bad guys,
leave everybody else alone, ICE wouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, true, that's what many jurisdictions do. You have some
person that's in a jurisdiction and they're in custody for
a local offense, but they're in the country illegally, and
there's a detainer lodged against them by the federal government.
Will hold that person X number of hours or days
before so federal government can come pick them up safely,
(08:30):
pick them up when they're in a safe position, both
of them are. But Minnesota apparently doesn't want.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So what do they do. They let that person go
back into the community and then ICE has to go
track them down and find them and legally then arrest them.
That way, it's better for everybody if the local police
and mayors work with the idea that if a person's
illegally in the country, we're going to help remove them
(08:58):
from the country. But they don't want to do that
because they want him to stay. They think it's we're wrong,
so they don't like the law, so they won't follow
the law. That's basically I think the position of these
local officials and the governors who want to give a
sanctuary for people illegally in the country.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
It is a Ted Pogo follow Hm. I judged Ted
Poe over on X. Let's talk about something that I
saw just a little while ago. On X some guy
did a video where he's talking about a thirteen year
old being detained by ice. Now, maybe I don't understand
the laws as well as I thought, but I have
been pulled over a lot in my life. I've got
a little sports cars, and when I get pulled over, oddly,
I'm not an American citizen. Oddly, I'm being detained by
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police until the contact with police is over, contact that
I may or may not have instigated with my heavy
right foot. Am I allowed to say, Hey, I'm an
American citizen, you can't detain me. I don't care who
you are. I'm allowed to do anything I want. Because
this thirteen year old allegedly, if the story's even real,
the guy might have made it up. But this thirteen
year old legedly is an American citizen? Are police allowed
to detain American citizens? Did something change?
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Police are allowed to detain American citizens when they have
cause to detain them, such as like a person speeding
like you, speeding down god B thirty going over eighty five.
You know, yes, And they have a right to investigate
(10:23):
a stop and detain momentarily for the purpose of stopping them.
And you have to show identification. You know, when the
police stop somebody, even on the street or in your car,
what do they want? They want identification? Identify who you are.
And you saying I'm an American citizen or I'm the governor,
(10:45):
or I'm a member of Congress or whatever, that doesn't
mean anything. You have got to prove who you say
you are, or the police need to find out who
they're actually dealing with. They do that for their own safety,
and they do it to see if they're stopping a person,
this particular person for the right reason. So the police
have that.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I'm gonna be inundated, gonna I'm gonna be inundated by
emails and by by exes. Now, the police have every
right to do that, provided the reason they're making the
contact is legitimate. And again, if you're running with a
bunch of people who are here illegally, If you're in
the midst of an apartment where two criminal illegals are
being picked up by Ice, they have every right to
(11:23):
detain you and find out who the hell you are.
They have every single right to do that. Now, cop
can't stop me in the sidewalk and say you look funny,
give me your ID. Not in Texas they can't. But
if there's some reason somebody said that guy, we're.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
In that shirt. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Because if I got trapped of berbing and funny looking
tea be stopped every day, So at the end, at
the end of the day, you have to be making
official contact. And they always leave the context out to
be a script videos.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
It can't be a pretext right under any circumstance. Police
can't stop you under a pretext. He looks he looks suspicious,
so he looks like he's from New York.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Right that he stopped every day, that's true. I just
just want to make sure I cleared that. I because
there is so much stupidity online right now, and unfortunately
people fall for it, and I want them to stop
falling for it. That's why I keep on doing the
work I try to do. That's why I keep bringing
you back on talk about what is and what is
in llegal. Let's talk about Venezuela. Last night, Tucker Carlson said,
I have good information from members of Congress at Trump's
(12:19):
speech tonight, he's going to announce that we're going to
war with Venezuela. Now, the last time I checked, you've
got to talk to Congress before you go to war
with anybody. If you're actually going to war. Now, if
you're blowing up boats off the coast, you're allowed to
do that, going after terrorist organizations, drug runners, and whatever
else is there forgetting that. Tucker was dead wrong about that.
I generally liked the guy, but that was just weird.
(12:40):
Let's talk about blowing boats up that are loaded to
the brim with cocaine off the coast of Venezuela.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Do we have the right to do it?
Speaker 2 (12:47):
All? Right? Let's back up a little bit about Congress,
who generally doesn't do a whole lot. They have voted
twice to stop Trump from doing what he's doing. And
both of those boats sponsored by the left failed House
of Representatives. So they were voting on whether or not
his conduct was authorized under the War Powers Act of
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seventy three, and it failed both times. Therefore, I think
giving the go ahead to buy the house to do
what Trump was doing. About the boats. What has been
going on for years is that drugs have been being
manufactured in Colombia and Venezuela, and they've been put in
boats made boats that are concealed in the jungles. They
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fabricate them, they put the cocaine stuff it in there,
and then they run them down the rivers, put them
in the Atlantic, and put them in the Pacific. They
have no flag. That's a big deal under international law.
They're not flying a flag, they have no transponder. They
don't know they're what people are what they are, And
the coastguard occasionally would catch one of these folks and
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pull them over. And before they could pull them over
to see if there are drugs, they sink the boat.
Why do they sink the boat because the evidence is
gone And that's been going on really for a long time.
The drugs are gone, then the so called fishermen are
rescued and we have to take them back to their
country of origin. So we spend taxpayer money to do
(14:15):
it again, it again, just to do it again, and
they've been doing laughing at us the whole time. Trump said,
We're not going to do that. We're gonna if you're
not flying a flag, you have all the markings of
look like a drug boat, which they all are, We're
gonna blow you out of the water because you're committing
a really an act of aggression against the United States.
(14:36):
You're bringing in drugs into the US. These drug cartels,
now two of them from Venezuela have been marked as
terrorist organizations by the United States, and you are going
to suffer the consequences. Blows them out of the water.
You know something that I think it works. They're not fishermen.
They don't ever find any fishing poles or nets or
(14:57):
fish or fish.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
You kind of need one of those things if you're
going fishing, right, you need a couple of those items.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I would think think they'd be something, and you don't.
You know, you don't fish with a speed boat going
that fast anyway, So they're not fishermen and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
You can't control at eighty miles an hour. I didn't
know that. It is, uh, it is Ted Poe we
love having Ted on. So when when the left goes
nuts like they're going and they keep on saying this
is a war crime, that Pete hag Seth and Donald
Trump are war criminals, they're they're legitimately they're supporting its
sponsoring and backing the drug runners. Ted, what the hell
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happened to the Democrats he used to rub elbows with
in the House of Representatives and in the Senate. Do
they really think that Americans are going to buy that
the good people are the ones on the boats and
the bad people are the ones keeping drugs from coming here.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
It seems like they're always taking the wrong side. They
take the side of the criminals and that commit crimes
in our country. They could take the side of people
illegally in the country over the law. Then now they're
taking the side of the worst people on earth smuggling
poison into the United States that will kill Americans, and
(16:09):
those folks are making money off of it. And now
all of a sudden they have their new poster people,
and that's the drug runners into the United States. I
don't know why they take that side. They're taking the
wrong side. They should take the American side, the side
of America, not the side of terrorist organizations.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
But they remark like that it's Ted Poe. Of course
he was a triathlete back in the early seventies. But
a hamstring issue, hamstring, which is what happened Tad. I
got about a minute. Are are we going to see
the end of Ukraine Russia in our lifetimes? What the
hell's going on with that? I got about a minute left.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
I can't answer that question. I just think we ought
to quit given money to anyone involved in of course Ukraine,
and of course you know where I stand on that,
we've been spending money over there. I don't know if
we're going to get a sea spar. I think it's
going to boil down to this one issue. It's going
to continue until it hurts Putin, until he figures out
(17:07):
that it's whatever's happening hurting him. Well, I don't think so.
He'd quit so and I don't think he's going to quit.
He wants a certain part of Ukraine and he's not
going to quit until he gets it. I think we
ought to realize that. And he hasn't been hurt enough.
The country of Russia hadn't been hurt enough. Otherwise they
(17:28):
would start stop.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Uh, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
We need to send you over there to get it settled.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, that that make him stop immediately? This New Yorker
guy who speeds down the road all the time and
he's Italian. Let's just stop the war it is, Tedpoe,
go follow him at judged, Ted Poe, ky, fill me
and please let me understand what the hell this means
that we went from Schedule one to Schedule three. That
didn't make it legal, it didn't decriminalize it, but it
puts it in a different category. Do you know what
(17:55):
the hell President Trump did last week?
Speaker 5 (17:57):
So essentially it was just common sense Paul Sea making.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
I just want to clarify for everyone.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Faically, I didn't know that many terms for cannabis.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
That was pretty impressive. Are you sure.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
I know a lot of words. I just know a
lot of words. So what does this mean? So it
was really really bad. Now it's still bad, but not
as bad. What does this mean?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
It's well, cannabis has never actually been that bad, like
as a substance. It's just not. And I say this
as literally an experts. One of the few things I
can say I'm an expert in route my dissertation partly
on cannabis and cannabis scheduling.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Back in the UK.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
This was pre Brexit, where there was some hope that
our veterans might be able to get the help that
they need, people with mental health issues could get the
sort of help they needed from what is essentially a
substance that is not only incredibly useful for people in
terms of like manufacturing, like textiles, things like that, but
(18:58):
is very helpful as an alternative to those hideous synthetic
drugs opioids. Even a lot of people, you know, I've
seen online saying like, we have plenty of good drugs
that help people who are in pain, help people with nausea,
and of life care people who are dealing with disgusting
side effects from particularly cancer drugs, but also vicious side
(19:21):
effects from things like opioids. You know, when we think
of opioids, Joe, I think most people go to you know, fentanyl,
they go to crisis that you saw hero Well, yeah,
it's all heroin, right, Like every single opioid. You're just
getting prescription heroin. Every single time someone sits there and
(19:42):
tells me like, oh I've got an adderall prescription I
just think okay, so you've got a prescription for essentially
crystal meth or speed cocaine, any of those kind of oppers.
It's exactly the same as those. But we think because
it comes in a little pell bottle that it's safe
and good for you.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
It's really bad for you. And anyone who thinks otherwise
is kidding themselves.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Let me tell me a little context. And this is
from my area. You're way too young. Of course, you
know who Elvis is. But Elvis was loaded full of
drugs and he was for years and years and years.
And I hate even saying that. I'm such a fan.
And he was certainly, you know, an idol of mind
when it comes to music and performing. But the guy
was taking it. But it was all prescription, and he
literally said, no, this is okay. The doctors gave me this.
(20:27):
And that's what you're talking about. How many people go
and they've got a back surgery or something, they get
on some sort of oxy, some form of oxy, and
they're just stuck on it. Now they just can't get
off of it. They're hooked on pain pills. So we're
talking about really really hard drugs that for some reason
people are using thinking it's perfectly fine because some doctor
wrote a prescription for it. And then there's marijuana that
(20:49):
we try to vilify like it's the worst thing on
the planet. And I don't do marijuana. I don't smoke,
I don't drink alcohol. I'll do any of that stuff.
But I've said this a million times. If alcohol is
available and legal to adults in America, why wouldn't marijuana be.
And many people watching listening things that I'm a pothead
nocause I said that. No, the bottom line is, I
don't think there's ever been a study that shows it's
(21:09):
a gateway drug. And I've said this a million times.
I'd much rather be in the highway with somebody who's
stoned than somebody who's drunk. Now, I don't want to
be in the highway with either one of them, but
I've had my choice. It's gonna be the guy going
twenty in the slow lane.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
And I think that's like a misconception that a lot
of people have that, you know, cannabis is up there
with meth, particularly P two P meth, which is like
the one stop shop for psychosis that we have along
with sort of like all those different like SSRIs, prescription drugs,
opiates just essentially being yeah, prescription heroin, Benzo's not really
(21:47):
far off the same kind of thing, highly addictive, highly dangerous.
You should not be operating any machinery really when your
mind is altered in any way, shape or form. I mean,
like I'm pregnant, I'm stone cold, sober, and every way
like that possibly imaginable, And I don't think I should
be operating heavy machinery because my brain is.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Emails and stuff.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
I'm gonna get now that you just suggested pregnant women
shouldn't be operating heavy machinery.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
There running the front end loader in the back hoe, No.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Don't.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I was like I was putting together another chicken coop,
Like I'm eight months pregnant, I'm still going out trying
to do all of this stuff, and I keep getting
told that you need to sit down and chill, but no.
So basically, what this rescheduling has done has essentially gone
down that sort of common sense policy route of moving
cannabis away from being scheduled, the same way the heroin, fentanyl,
(22:40):
all these drugs that actually do kill people. You know,
we have zero recorded deaths due to cannabis. Ever, you
literally cannot overdose on it. And all those people sitting
around being like, oh, well, my cousin or like my brother,
my son, he like ate a weed gummy once and
he went insane. He could eat mushrooms and go insane.
It's a temporary state, and yeah, you might get some
(23:02):
flashbacks from it, but like nothing that literally talk therapy
can't cure. And I don't care about all of people
who are going to blow me up and yell at
me and say that I'm wrong yelling at me.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
You're be yelling at me. It's case.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I feel that she's done the research. She's a very
very smart lady. So talk to me about what this
actually means. It was this schedule, now it's this schedule.
Does that mean that veterans who need it can get
it even if it's not so called legalized in a
particular state. What people don't understand is that the individual
states have been passing laws and changing the ways to
(23:37):
deal with marijuana for a long time, but the federal
government has not changed the schedule. The federal government at
any moment could come into any state USA and say
we're shutting down your dispensaries because it's illegal, they aren't
doing that. They've left it alone. So what does this
change in schedule literally mean?
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Do we know?
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I think what it ultimately means is not only do
we like, does every state now have to look at
this from like a feacing perspective differently, Like there is
not a human being under the sun who should be Like,
if you're illegally dealing drugs, there's a big difference between
illegally dealing pot versus illegally dealing heroin. People are gonna
(24:15):
die from the heroine that you supply. You know, we've
already seen. Like there are rumors Joe that one of
the main reasons that we went into the Middle East
in the early two thousands. Yes we had nine to eleven,
which you know, that's a whole other kettle of fish.
But there's a lot of rumors that one of the
reasons we went in was really to grab hold of
the opium trade, and we protected it as a country
(24:39):
by the way.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Like that was something grows all the poppies, right.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Yeah, it grows all the poppies.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
But I think for us here at home, what this
kind of does is it removes those legal stigmas that
are associated with cannabis, which allows for I think a
lot of doors and windows to open in the research
side of things. So I think we're gonna see probably
the tobacco industry, definitely the pharmaceutic I mean I already
(25:08):
know people in the tobacco and the pharmaceutical industry who
are literally just waiting for cannabis to be fully legalized,
not just in terms of like they want to create
medical systems because they know that cannabis is a much
safer substance than all the stuff that they've been prescribing
and giving people since you know, pretty much pretty much
(25:29):
since like the turn of the last century, like when
we went from eighteen hundreds to nineteen hundreds. But again
through manufacturing, like when you can use cannabis based products,
like even just the stem, when you break those things
down from cannabis and from hemp, which is same plant,
but like one has the sort of stoner side effects
(25:50):
the other one doesn't. But when you sort of break
down these plants into all the different factions that they
can be broken into, we can actually revolutionize American manufacturing
in a million different ways. I mean, we could literally
bring it all home. I mean, we don't have time
to get into it today, but it really is a
wonder plant in that way, the like in the same
(26:11):
way that sort of like opium, and you know, even
like mushrooms. All of these other different naturally occurring substances
just aren't, like really really like just aren't.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
And so I think what.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
We're seeing is a gradual move towards understanding the benefits
of this stuff far outway any costs. Again, I don't like,
you can't really put cannabis and alcohol in the same bucket,
because you speak to any social worker in the world,
and they're going to tell you the worst drug out
(26:46):
there across the spectrum of drugs, They're going to tell
you that the worst drug out there is alcohol.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Like true, And I've talked about the civillion times though.
The liquor lobby is why is why marijuana is not legal.
That's why they spent all the money they possibly could
one hundred years ago. So to say this is a horrible,
disgusting they vilified it. You can't possibly have this but
drink some more are straight you know, one hundred and
ninety proof. So I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
Last question, on this because I want to move on
(27:12):
a couple other things. Is it a gateway drug, You've
done the studies. I contend that it's not, but there
are people who suggest it is.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
It's not.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Actually, you know what I'd say the biggest gateway drug
is is narcissistic parenting. Like if you're sitting there thinking like, oh,
the reason that my child has problems is because they
smoke weed, you need to go home and look in
the mirror, sit down and listen to what your child
actually has to say, because I guarantee they've been telling
you the problems that they have their whole lives, and
(27:44):
you refuse to listen to them. Cannabis is not a
gateway drug. Cannabis is what most people who use cannabis
use it to chill out at the end of the day.
And it's a heck of a lot healthier than even
your glass of wine or your mums sitting there thinking
that you're all high and mighty and neither.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
K nor I are suggesting you smoke or drink. We're
just giving you the facts. Yeah, it is a case
my phill exactly right. No, no, Hello, I've been sober
for a million years. This is and this is what
you get now. I drank a little bit, not much
back in there. I am not a good A good drinker,
A takes away too much, got to drink like a
too way too much even feel anything that's dumb, just
(28:23):
a waste of money. And b why lose control of
your faculties all the time. I don't understand that. All right,
let's let's move on to this, because I did not
know about this. Ted Cruz is suggesting he's running again
for president. Nolt that for me, the farm Team, jd Vance, obviously,
Marco Rubio, obviously, Ron desanthis, obviously Ted Cruz is jumping.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
In What did you hear?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
I read it on Newsmax today?
Speaker 5 (28:47):
That again?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
That again, Ted.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
Cruz is floating the idea of a run at twenty
twenty eight. And I gotta tell you, Joe, like, there
is no one in my generation who looks at Ted
Cruz and thinks, oh yeah, he's trustworthy, Oh yeah, he's
someone that we want to listen to.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Like.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
It breaks my heart because he's just gone so off
the deep end on social media, which is you know
where most people end of the age of forty get
their news these days. So I just I feel bad
for the guy. I know a lot of people who
work on his campaigns. I know a lot of people
close to head. He is, by all regards, a really good,
really nice guy, excellent lawyer. He's amazing for the state
(29:26):
of Texas. But he does not have a shoe in
but he I think he's going to raise a heck
of a.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Lot of money.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
I just have a gut feeling that he is going
to raise a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Ted forever, I understand you, and I hear what you're saying.
I think that was maybe a suggestion toward Israel. Maybe
what I know. Having said that, Ted is a very
smart guy. He's a very good senator. I consider him
a professional friend. We've known each other a very long time.
You're right, he's a very nice guy, very smart man.
He was not prepared for the for that interview with Tucker.
(30:01):
That was kind of dumb. But how do you raise
money knowing that the big three I just mentioned are
the big three? There's no doubt President Trump is going
to say jd Vance is the guy. I don't see
why he wouldn't say that. As he leaves he thinks
that jd Vance is the next guy up. And then
Marco Rubio has proven himself like crazy as the Secretary
(30:22):
of State.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Holy crap.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
I never knew Marco had that in him. And then
Ron DeSantis was like the front runner other than Trump
the last time around, and he's done great wonders for Florida.
I guess I don't understand why right now would make
sense for Ted Cruz. What he knows, those three are
already like batting first, second, and third in the major leagues.
He's like a minor league right now when it comes
to presidential races. He's not even in the ballpark.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
Do you know.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
I hadn't even thought about the Israel And I was
thinking more in terms of like the sort of Texan
big oil, like you guys have so much industry down there,
like no, but yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Yeah, but yeah, I've got a stuff because I live here. No, yeah,
nobody in big oil, in big billionaires you know from Midland,
Texas are going. Man, I can't wait for Ted CRUs
to run.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Now.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Maybe there are allegiances there that I don't know about,
but I mean, I am not hearing that, and I'm here,
and I think that I would. I mean, I talk
to everybody who wants to run for anything in this state.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
So I'm not sure that that's really what it is.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
I said Israel because on the debate with Tucker Carlson
and he was defending a pack, he was defending Israel,
so on and so forth. I've got no problem with Israel,
you know how I feel about that. But I don't
see like Big Texas going Ted's our guy. Maybe I don't.
I'm not in the conversation that could. So that's what
you were talking about. Do you think he's maybe getting
that Lincoln or not? Because why else even suggested?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
I think it's that.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I think it's data centers. I think I sadly, Joe,
I think the only reason the Ted thinks that he's
got a chance at running is he might live in
a bit of an echo chamber. Everyone takes money from APAC.
That doesn't make him special in any way, shape or form.
I think there's like three people in like all of
politics ever that haven't taken money from them, and there's
(32:03):
so much money to go around that Yeah, Like if
any I listen, I'm completely with you.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I think it's Vance.
Speaker 5 (32:10):
Rubio, and then I think DeSantis, he definitely has a
shot of being in that administration, but I don't know
what that looks like. I don't see him being he
can't compete for me, he can't compete with the other
two for the presidential nomination. I do see him actually
being an incredible secretary of State. He deserves a place
(32:31):
in the administration above literally everyone else in politics in
the entire country, because I just like, I've never met
anyone who lives in Florida who is unhappy about living in.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Florida, which I think is incredible.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Like I can't even think of another state where that
is happening. But for Ted, I think this is just
something he really, really, really really wants, and I think
he's got a lot of people around him telling him
that it's a good idea because they just don't want
to hurt his feelings. And so as great as I
think today, I feel like someone che needs to give
him a hug and be like, buddy, no.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
No, I've got one minute, but I really do want
you to talk about this diversity visa program.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You're not here in a diversity visa, right, No.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
I came out here. For the first ten years I
was on an one visa expert in my field.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
And then uh, now why would diversity?
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Why did we want diversity? We keep diversity is not
our strength. Let me make that as clear as I can,
Like Charlie Kirk said, unity is our strength. Yes, come
from diverse parts of the world and diverse cultures and
backgrounds and skin tones, and then become one and then
unite in the in this country for our future and
to make a better country. So why was this even
put in place? Do you know why we have something
(33:48):
called a diversity visa?
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
I mean it's been around for a heck of a
long time, Like are really like it predates I think
even my existence on the planet, Like it's been around forever.
I can't tell you the number of people I know, Joe.
The other term for the diversity visa program is the
visa lottery. So there's a handful of countries where if
people like even Britain. Actually now so it used to
be that there were so many people from Britain who
(34:12):
applied through regular means to get a visa to work
in the States that the States was like, you don't
get the lottery, you don't get to be part of.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
The diversity visa program. Because we have enough of you.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
But Britain was actually supposed to be on the list
this year, so people I knew, people I know are
actually waiting for the Diversity Visa lottery to open up
so they could apply to it and potentially get a
visa that way. I know so many Australians that have
done the same thing. I don't know why this thing exists.
I do, personally kind of think it's dumb. I think
(34:46):
everyone should have to.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Work to be able to be here. That's just me.
Speaker 5 (34:50):
I went about it the legit, legal way.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I didn't get any special treatment.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So you know, well, I we're so glad you did.
I'm so glad that you're here. It is Casemi Field.
Go follow her casemyifel dot com. Go follow her at
casemith over on socials. See her on Newsmax, where she's
a contributor. K You're amazing, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Thanks Joe, You're amazing.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.
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