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July 31, 2025 43 mins

In this powerful episode of Unshaken and Unafraid with Joe Pags, two bold challengers break down why California and Minnesota are in crisis—and it’s time for new leadership:

  • Ryan Tillman (CA): Chiming in on Gavin Newsom’s track record, Tillman details how rising crime, homelessness, and unchecked government policies have hurt California.

  • Dr. Scott Jensen (MN): Taking on Tim Walz, Jensen explores how progressive policies, economic challenges, and political overreach have left Minnesota struggling.

With Newsom and Walz facing increasing scrutiny as among the “worst governors” in recent discourse, Hear Tillman and Jensen present their plans to rescue their states from political chaos.

📌 We dig into:

  • Why Newsom is being labeled a failed California governor

  • Allegations that Walz’s progressive agenda is backfiring

  • Bold new vision from Jensen and Tillman for restoring safety, prosperity, and freedom.

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