July 2, 2023 • 39 mins
Marc Vandermeer chats with Matt Taylor, from the Indianapolis Colts, Frank Frangie, from the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Mike Keith, from the Nashville Titans in this special edition of Vandermeer's View.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello Texans, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, today a little bit of a departure as the
AFC South radio voices got together.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
This happened back at the combine.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But this is timeless stuff basically, well it's timeless stuff
for this season anyway, this offseason that we were talking about.
Mike Keith of the Tennessee Titans. He organized this. I
want to give him full credit for that, and it
appeared on his programming originally, but it's good on everybody's.
Frank Frangie voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Matt Taylor,
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voice of the Indianapolis Colts and me. So the four
of us got together, asked each other questions, talked about
things related to broadcasting and the franchises that we work with,
and four at its fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And here it is today for the first time, we
have not one, not two, not three, but all four
of the AFC South play by play announcers together. Let
me introduce you to them. Mark Van me is the
only voice of the Houston Texans. You've been the guy
since two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Welcome, Thank you very much, Mike, and you've been the
only voice of the Titans.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes, it's true. Yes, right, that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Not the Oilers, but the Titans, which never the voice
of the Oilers. Well, since the Titans are sort of
well not sort of keeping the Oiler history, you don't
get to have that the station. It's all me, boys,
I'm the only guy in the league to have it
all right, we bow down.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Frank Franjie is a Jacksonville legend, as he's been involved
in sports talk radio there for thirty five years. Frank
is entering his tenth season as the voice of the Jaguars.
And you started in print.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, I did it, and the first well, legend is
a synonym for old. Okay, so I'm the old guy.
But you went to Inglewood and everyting. I'm a Jacksonville guy.
I was a sports writer. I wasn't all that good
at that, so I got into the broadcast side, and yeah,
kind of like you. I did a lot of college
stuff beforehand, and uh wound up. This will be my
tenth year doing the Jags game.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So yeah, you and I have known each other since
before Matt Taylor was born. That's exactly right. Matt Taylor
is the youthful one in the group. The voice of
the Indianapolis Colts. He is an indian native. He played
football at Franklin College. Voice of the Colts since twenty eighteen.
Welcome to the old Guy crew. And here's my question
for you. Welcome to when they put the three of
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us in a home and you're still going strong, will
you come visit?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I will come visit you. I'll make sure the jello
is the flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's you?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, come on now?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's okay, three of us, Yeah, actually broadcast in our hometowns.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Wow. One is an interloper. Okay. But there's a distinction
here as well. All Right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I wasn't born in Texas, but got there as fast
as I could, which is a Texas expression.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I have two sons born on Texas soil, which is
like marrying into the family. So my DNA has been
spliced properly out of Texan.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, and you don't say y'all. And I've never seen
in a cowboy hat.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And funny because a lot of people who aren't for
Texas end up saying y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I really don't do that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I really don't think it's hard for me to go there,
because I think it would be an affectation for me
to a degree, but I definitely have picked up a
little bit of an accent, you know. And when I
hang out back on the East Coast. I grew up
in the New York area, went to school in Boston.
If I'm there for a week, I come back and
I sound like Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, mettle like this. So my wife, who is from Indiana,
is from the northern part of Indiana, right outside of Chicago.
She got up in church to give a committee report,
and she says, good morning, y'all, and I'm like, yeah,
that's not like yeah, well, but I mean it's part
of her effect.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Now she's been in Tennessee for thirty nine years, so
I guess she.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Can do that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Mike and I are Southerners by and saying y'all is
actually required legally, legally, So even if you don't have
something to say, you just run down the street and
say y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's not all, y'all all, y'all. Yeah, right, yeah, that's right,
that's real. So okay.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The format of this thing is simple. Each one of
us gets three questions, one for the other announcers. Since
his team won the AFC South this past year. Frank
Franchie of the Jacksonville Jaguars, you go first, sir, What
do you want to know how?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And again I should go first. Not only do we
win the division, but we dominate it so often, so
I think there's that. So that's what we've been I
got a lot of questions about about where these franchises are.
Let's let's talk about the franchises. And I want to
start with Mark because Mark further, when I started doing this,
the Texans won the thing every year. You know, the
Texans were a dominant team, and then I watched how
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it changed the Deshaun Watson things. So my question for
you is where are you? Is the rebuild starting? Is
the rebuild is it? Is it underway? Because of all
these draft picks, how do you feel about to make
where where's the franchise?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's fluid, Frank, it's fluid. You guys know how it is.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It's Bill O'Brien used to say, every year is different, right,
and every year is different because you never know what's
going to happen. Look at what happened to the Jaguars
this year. We all thought the Colts would do a
lot better. Obviously, with Matt Ryan and then look what
happened and Tennessee. I never could have predicted this, you know.
A year ago, I was saying, you know, Tennessee looks
like the premier team in the division and organization in
the division. And then the dismissal of John Robinson, I'm thinking,
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oh wow, that's a real change, you know. And obviously
everybody goes through changes, and the Texans have gone through
more than anybody in recent years. So yeah, I think
the rebuild if you want to call it that. No
one's going to call it that publicly, but it is.
I mean, when you win four four and three games,
you're rebuilding, you're retooling, rebuilding below whatever it is, you're
redoing it. But I think it is underway, and it
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has been underway because of the last two draft classes
by Nick Cassario leading into the twenty twenty three draft class,
that you have some seedlings, some good foundational pieces there
to build on, and finally they get the coach that
can be here for a long time. You know, David Colleague,
great guy, wasn't the right coach. Lovey Smith didn't work out.
We don't have to get into all that. But now
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they have to meet go Ryans who played for the team.
Obviously best player leader I've ever been around in the
Texans Organiza say that includes the quarterbacks, and he's the
right guy for the job. Premiere higher right there, and
I'm excited to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And i am too. I think I'm very intrigued with it.
My question for you, Mike, we could all talk about
where's the state of the franchise, but more than that,
we had this guy that grew.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Up in Yulie.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Julie is very close to Jacksonville, it's probably about thirty miles.
Everybody said, well, you know, he's a good high school
running back, but he's gonna have to play defensive end
in college. He can't run, he's too upright, and lo
and behold he went. He went to college and he
played running back, and he did okay, okay, won that
big trophy. And then they said, well, we gets the NFL.
He's now he's you can't the NFL's five nine two
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o five running backs. I think Derrick Henry's one of
the greatest athletes to ever come out of my area.
My question is how long has he got left or
how much does he have left. He's twenty nine. He
defies the eyes. The rules tell us running backs are
done now at twenty nine or thirty, But I don't
believe it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
With him.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
How much longer are we going to have Derrick Henry
watching Derrick Henry look like Dereck Henry Number one?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think it's how long does he want to do it?
His conditioning is so crazy. I think that's why he's
at this point. Matt and I were discussing it earlier
in the week. He's beaten the odds already. Running Backs
don't fall off the cliff, as Charles Davis likes to say,
they don't even make it to the cliff. And I mean,
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there's just gonna come a point where he can't do
it anymore. Now, when is that? I mean, you saw
it with Arian Foster in Houston, and certainly you saw
it with Fred Taylor in Jacksonville, and we saw it
with Eddie George, and I mean it happens. I certainly
think the plan if he's on this roster this year,
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the plan is to make sure he touches the ball
twenty to twenty five times a game like normal. Yeah, Well,
I mean that's what you're gonna do. He's a first
and second down back, you know, and we know that
about Derek. Derek does play some third down, but very little,
and so he doesn't get every snap, which probably helps
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the beating he takes ways on the other side. But
I think he's still Derrick Henry until just the moment
he's not. And at that moment it will probably be
something you'll see very quickly, because quickness is not his thing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's about getting to the fourth or fifth step, and
then he's when he's rolling, he's you seen bolt fast.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's not a stopwatch thing. It's a plaything.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But at the moment that it's over, I think it'll
be obvious to everybody. But from what he did last year,
it's clearly not over.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And I can tell you defensive coaches at Jacksonville different staffs.
We tend to change the staffs a lot of all
the week. Do you play the Titans, they spend days
working on stiff arm. Right, they have stiff arm practice.
I don't know if the Textans and the Colts have
done that, but they all they'll have a segment of practice,
I mean working on stiff working on not getting stiff armed, right,
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which is which is amazing. That's an extra portion of
your practice week that they only do again when they're
playing the Titans.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
If he has one more great year, suddenly you're talking
about hall of Fame question, because if you look at
the backs who are in the Hall of Fame, it's
generally five year stretches.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, certain players are judged for their careers, right,
but backs are really judged on periods of time.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And the Gail Sayers twelve days absolutely well.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And we think Fred Taylor should be in the Hall.
His numbers are incredible, and the running back is kind
of a dying breed. The Hall of Fame running backs
a dying breed. It's not gonna be a lot of
them make it now, so we think Fred maybe next,
but it'll be interesting to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, one thing though, before we get off the Derek
Henry subject, and we'll probably return to it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Don't you guys feel like the other? All right?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So you're you're playing Mike's team, We don't, but our
teams are. When they pull Derreck Henry off the field
on third down, I'm like, ye, same same even there
now maybe to wear and tear, but sometimes and look,
this is probably a broader football discussion for coaches, But
third and eight, third and seven. If I'm a defense
and as a play by play guy, I'm terrified when
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I see Derek Henry. He's one of the most terrifying players.
As a play by play announcer, it's third down, and
I want my team off the field. When when I
see Derek Hmill first and second in his case, when
I see Derek Henry on the field, it's it's terror.
It's like, oh my gosh, what are we gonna do
to stop him? It used to be Peyton Manning with
the Colts, Steve McNair a little bit right with with
the Titans. Of course with Jacksonville Nobody. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I first shot, Yeah, I first shot Fred Taylor.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
But I was trying to think of somebody when he
was saying that. No, no, I've been as a play
but player.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Back to the stiff arms, I'm wondering which one of
our guys is going to get stiff armed into the
front row. And I'm like, Mark, I love it when
he's out of the game, you know, So, I mean,
but you got to third and nine.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You can't keep running well.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And let's face it to part of the most fun,
one of the most fun parts of our job is
watching guys on our teams who are freaks.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's so much fun to see somebody who is just
and he's one of those. I mean, he is crazy strong,
no question, he's that guy. He's that guy.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
My question for you, Matt, And Matt told me stat
and I knew it, but I didn't know it when
Matt sat in with me the other day. It's been
fifteen and sixteen since the Colts have had a quarterback
play starting the same starting quarterback pat back years. That
just astounded me, not that I didn't know it, but
because I've done the games all these years, it just
just forget me.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So, so, and I'm gonna ask you a question about
your boss. So, how do you talk about your boss
on on air? I guess but thanks, Hey, you're no problem.
But how does the ownership Jim Ursay, who I think
is a good owner, but he's kind of out there
connect with your public, with your fan base. He was
very good in the Peyton years and very good in
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the luckiears. How does he connect I'm very curious about that.
I mean, I think he's one of the best owners
in the game. I mean, certainly, he's a fascinating guy.
He's got a ton of outside of interests, outside of football.
I mean, he's got the which I'm sure you guys
have seen.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
He's he collects uh billion a half Okay, yeah, I mean,
and right now he's taken across the country. I don't
I don't know if you guys are privy to this,
but he's got he's got tour stops all over the country.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He's been doing it since November.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I think actually next weekend is going to be in
Las Vegas where the collection's on display. Then he's got
the band that he's in and it's it's a I mean,
you love music, we all love music. He's got Kenny
Wayne Shepherd in the band. He's got the drummer that
used to play all over the country with John Mellencamp.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
He's playing with.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Joe Walsh, She's played you know, the guys that were
in Fleetwood Max. So he's a fascinating guy. I think
he connects well with you know, the city, you know,
with with the fan base. He more so than anybody
is desperate for this franchise to get back to where
it was. You know, the last time the Colts won
the AFC South was twenty fourteen, right, every point. Every
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team has won it twice since then in the division. Wow,
that's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, well, if we could do a whole freak e
stats kind of segment here. But so the Colts wanted
in twenty fourteen, right, The Texans since twenty eleven have
won it six times and since that time, and that's
more than anybody. Since that time, all three other teams
have been to the AFC Championship Game except the Texans,
and they won the division more than anybody else, which
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is a weird status.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Weird.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
My final thing before I passed it off, I'll tell
you a story, a Nursey story. So I'm I graduated
from Florida in nineteen eighty and in nineteen seventy nine,
I'm kind of home for the summer, working summer jobs,
no money, and we were going out, hanging out, and
so all of a sudden, the word gets around that
you gotta go down to the stadium, the Gator Bowl
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at the time, Okay, because something BIG's happening like late song. Okay,
so we're gonna go down there. So we didn't know
what was but you know, our parents and our friends knew.
So I'm a broke, broke ass college student. Why I'm
getting a free hot dog and a coke. I'm gonna
go there. We go to the Gator Bowl. Sixty thousand people,
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sixty thousand show up at the Gator Bowl for a
hot dog and a coke to watch Robert or Say
fly in on a helicopter because he's thinking about moving
the Baltimore Colts to Jacksonville and we wanted it so bad.
The helicopter lands. Okay, I got my hot dog and
a coke. Okay, which is big news for me. There's
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sixty thousand people just to say hello. He gets out
of the helicopter, walks at waives everybody, and gets back
in it and leaves.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's probably about.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Twenty minutes, and I'm convinced. I'm convinced that's the first
step in Jacksonville having an NFL team. I'm convinced that
Robert Say getting out of that helicopter waving to all
of us with our hot dogs on our cokes is
not why but it's the first step of why jackson.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
That's a great story.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The Oilers flirted with Jacksonville all back in the day.
We're all a division now and both other French as.
Jacksonville gets a team, eventually Houston gets a team back.
That's interesting and the Oilers was in eighty seven. By
then I was a sports writer and I covered the story.
I actually went to Houston. Well, and there's also a strike. Yeah,
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so the Oilers were talking about coming to Jacksonville. There
was a strike going on, so Warren Moon and some
of the players were practicing on their own at Love
Park or some park in Houston. I went out there
and did a story talking to them, Hey, how you
feel about jackson Hey, we love to come to Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We'll come more.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And then I covered a replacement game, right and then
came back.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So I remember that storry very well.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I want to ask Mark vandermir of the Houston Texans
to this question. The Titans are unveiling oiler uniforms this year.
If the Titans where the oiler uniforms against the Texans,
will there be any sort of reaction from the Texans
fan be reaction?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
All right? You think, yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Because all right, So the Columbia blue, do you still
call it Columbia blue? In say Titan blue, you say
Titan blue, So you change the name of the blue,
but it's, you know, basically the blue that we're all blue.
We know it kind of blue blue. Yeah, it's that
light blue. Well, it's funny because the Texans have made
it public that they're experimenting with uniform changes possibly coming
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into play next year and we'll see how it goes.
It's a process, and they've had a lot of focus
groups and they've actually put out a lot of stuff
that the fans have sent them, and some of the
stuff involves this.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We call it h Town blue, all right, And I've
learned about colors today.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh, our senior director of marketing put up all the
blues on a board that you know, Detroit, you know,
the Honolulu Blue, Carolina Titans, and they're all kind of blue,
but they're all different. In fact, if you put the
Titan logo on the Detroit blue, it looks like the Titans.
It's hard for the eye to tell, but they're all
a little tiny bit different than PMS color or whatever
they call it. Anyway, Texans have started to sell that
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h Town Blue and gear in you know, T shirts,
long sleeve T shirts, jackets, along with the battle red
and the Deep Steel blue and the Liberty White.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We have to how many colors do you get to have?
We have three Liberty White, Deep Steel Blue, battle Red.
This would have blown up my sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And now we've had they and then there's fall because
the h Town blue is really it goes back even
before the Oilers. There are things in Houston that have
that blue on it, like architectural structures and things like that,
and it's a Houston color. So the Rockets have used
it as well. The Houston fans go nuts for this
when they see oiler of unis on the Titans, and
I know they did a few years back, maybe ten
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years ago with the nineteen year Rich the Yeah yeah,
the AFL right, and those were like the original oiler
uniforms that look kind of like the oiler uniforms that
we grew.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To know, but not quite. This will be a real kick.
Is going to be the red. You think you think
they will react negatively.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They'll they'll be it'll be jealous, It'll be you know,
they left us, what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know? The fan you know fans all right they react. Look, fans,
you don't make it on third down, they go crazy.
So and but it's good you want them to be passionate.
All we have is teal in black. I need fancy names.
I do not have fancy names from I don't like Jaguars.
That's my goal.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
My goal is something funky, Jay Town Jaguar. I mean
a change volteel. Yes, I've got it. I'm marketing for
right now.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I passed the stick to Matt Taylor. All right, questions
from Matt? Can I go a different direction? Do whatever
you want strictly football? No, this is a good roundtap discussion. Okay,
let's go inside the biz. Let's go behind the Michael
to do it. You guys have been doing this a
long time. You guys have been to basically every NFL stadium.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Give me the best booth in the NFL to call
a game, give me the worst booth to call a game,
and your favorite visiting stadium to call a game within
the division.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
All right, I'll go uh wait, can can we just
say two things first to the listeners?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Booth? Uh and stadium are off in different things. Right.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You could have a great stadium, but the booth could
be terrible. Also, even play by play announcers versus engineers. Right,
there are some booths that I've really liked, Like Oakland
was terrific as far as the view once I'm sitting down,
Oakland was great. The engineers hated it's small. They got
out the hall. Yeah, the equipment's out in the hall like.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
The day one.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So there's there are different categories here, But go on, Frank, Yeah,
well no, I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
For the look of the game. I love love the
Metal and met Life Stadium. You're right there. It's a
perfect look. It's clean, it's easy. That's probably. I like
the Patriots. I like even though you're not near the
other you get that. Why I like wit spread and
and and those are my two favorite worst booths in
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the history of organized sport.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Is Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's they They actually should shut down the franchise because
of the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Wait wait, wait, it's Miami. Miamiami, thankers. Miami. Miami is
worse of Washington. The new Miami. It's not.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It's not worse. You're wrong, but I appreciate that. You're
not wrong because Washington's low. It's low and bad.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is Miami? Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I mean, would all agree with that, but Miami Glasstan Yes,
opposite side field, Yeah, in the corner of the zone.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Too small. It's crazy bad.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
My friends at the University of Tennessee got to play
in the Orange Bowl this year and they called me.
They go, hey, can we get four across on the front.
I'm like, you may not even be able.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
To get two as somebody's got to stand. Well, here's
what they did.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
They got the booth next to them because there was
no national radio or something for that game, and so
they put the color commentator in another booth.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They're tiny, you can't.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
When they should be. They should be out of the
league in my opinion, based on the booth. And you
have to walk through that night club slow, yeah, to
get to the booth. Franchise, Can I tell a New
England booth story real quick? So we're up there in
two thousand and three and we're playing and the head
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of the company it is a massive booth. You can
get twenty people in there, I mean at least best,
both in terms of size.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It is.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So the head of the company says that his nephews
are fans of Tom Brady. Can they come and stand
in our booth, but there are rights holders company and
it's the president of the company, so we got to
do it. So they've got press passes and they're standing
in the back of the booth and they're very polite.
They were very, very nice young men, and it all
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worked brilliantly until postgame they had press credentials on and
so they went to the Patriots locker room no. And
asked Tom Brady for autographs as he was coming out
of the shower of.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We're on a plane going back to Nashville, just lost
a tough game, and we get this call. Larry Stone,
who was running our network at this time, gets a
call about who on your crew? So the Patriots complained
to the NFL, and our media relations guy, Robbie Born says,
what is this because he knows all of us, he's
at that time, he's worked with all of us for
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six years, and he's like, who on your crew went
down and got Tom Brady's autograph? In postgame? We're like,
we have no idea what you're talking about. And so
finally somebody with the Patriots came through it. And this
is before camera phone, so nobody really took a picture
of him. So they gave a description. It's like, oh no,
and so we explain the story and it does not
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satisfy the Patriots, it doesn't satisfy the NFL. It doesn't
it doesn't satisfy our people. And this went on for
like weeks where we're having to answer for this, and
finally we said call so and so we're not taking
a call all about it anymore. They were gonna find
us for it.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Wow, well, thank goodness I'm here because Frank New England
and guys, I don't know how you guys feel about
the Patriots booth, but it is good in that all right.
It's close, but it's too low. It's too low because
when the play, when when you first get there, you're like,
this is gonna be awesome. When the players are standing
on the sideline, you your view is actually obstructed up
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until the numbers on that end. So when somebody catches
a pass on the near sideline, you're like, ah, it's
kind of like calling a three in basketball when they're
in the corner and you can't see if their feet
are behind the line.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You just gotta wait for the official to put his
hands up, right.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I gotta wait for the official to rule it a
catch in order to call it correctly in New England. Plus,
you're right there with the fans, so it's like Tommy
Brady's the best quarterback half. I saw it and I'm thinking,
oh my gosh, that's making it on the air.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Back in the day, Bill Pollian used to I mean,
the relationship between Patriots, Patriots fans and Bill Pollion, You
guys know what, that really really good.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's really good.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
So Bill, because of how big the booth was, Bill
would actually sit in the booth and watch the game.
Uh and because and then I don't know when they
did it, but they actually elevated the booth up a
little bit because the fans used to be literally right
right right there under you. Now they're maybe like five
or six feet under you. But they would they would
throw stuff in the booth and yell things. Obviously at
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Bill and all those epic playoff games. I do have
to share this picture though, if we can zoom in
on this, that's Miami.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, this is I'm sorry, Frank.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
This is twenty nineteen, week seventeen at Jacksonville. There's a
torrential rainstorm and it is raining.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In the booth.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I did in ninety nine, the third game I ever did. Yeah,
there was water blowing into the booth. We I mean,
it's one of those funny things that happens in Florida
where you get a storm right over you so and
and the what and it blows all my notes. I mean,
I've did the whole second half with Pat Ryan and
we had nothing because they had no game programs left.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Fortunately it was a division team, so you knew them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, yeah, we try and drench the visiting this part
of the goal.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, this is it's all psychological. So about that.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Hour before the bus ride to the stadium in twenty nineteen,
I get a call from the PR guy that says, yeah,
it's raining.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
In your booth. I said, it's training in our booth.
What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
So we we bring towels from we steal towels from
the hotel, but steal good.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So there's the rain bucket catching the water and so
we're called So this this area here was not even
used during the game, So we call the game from
like where the engineers site up above. So that's that's
my horror story on it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, you know, the best I'll do a game is
Nissan Stadium because it's low and because you're not obstructed
by the fans, and because you're on that twenty five
to thirty five area, you can see the whole field.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's good, it's good, but it looks better, all right,
Jacksonville's better, ye jackson But in the middle it's a
better view because all right, Tennessee, I'm not saying it's bad.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm not saying it's bad.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
But you come into our booth and steal snacks every
time you come out from how are you talking to us?
Then say something nice about us, whether you want to
or not. I do, I know it hurts you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I do, uh. I do think the booth is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But the problem is when they're off to the right
end of the field, when they get inside the twenty,
it gets a little like now the yard line the
pot when they pile on I'm like seventeen or that.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, it's a little with him heat. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, you guys said the best booth or with the
biggest booth was the Patriots. But I like Dallas. Dallas
is a wonderful I don't like the view, but the
booth that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Bathroom.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, but you know it's like in Los Angeles, though,
where you have to call part of the game off
the jumbo trone because there are parts of the field
you can't see.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't have a problem in Dallas because the height
of it, like Pittsburgh, is long.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I don't mind being in the corner if I'm high up.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
If I'm low like Miami or Washington, that's a real
disaster Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I tell you a quick story, but I was doing
college games. Do you remember, and you probably remember it,
when when LSU won the national title under less Miles,
they beat Auburn in a game, Mike, you may remember this.
At the end of the game, there's like nine seconds left.
They should have kicked the forty yard field goal to win,
but instead he ran to play and they hit a
touchdown on the left corner. Do you remember this play?
He hit a touchdown the left corner of the end zone.
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It was a dumb call, but with one second left
to they win the game. Well, I'm doing the game
with Toretta, and I'm in the right corner. I'm in
the high I'm in the right corner at baton rouge,
I can't see it. We're so far right, I can't
see it. And the big it's the biggest game of
the year in college football. And I'm doing radio and
they dropped to throw fired at left corner of the
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end zone. I mean, I can't see anything. So I'm thinking,
now I got a decision to make. Okay, this is
the biggest play of the year in college football, and
and and so and and the only time I've ever
done this in my life, and all the youth player
I guess what. I saw the fans jump up and
I and I said touchdown ls U, having no idea
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whether it was a touchdown LSU. But I saw the
fans jumping number one, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I said,
and you and yeah, you always wait for it, but
I just I did, and it was a touchdown. I
thought to myself, I said, what would that have done
to my career if it wasn't?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know what I mean? And to play that bad
was thank you Jesus.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah yeah, I mean, how much do you guys use
binoculars to call the game?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't. I did not you do.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like every play, every play, every play, every play in
Texans history has been done with binoculars. I mean every
single one. I will not do it play without it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
For me, it's identifying the running back first. Fore I
got to get in there. I got it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Like I'm used to calling basketball, which I always thought
was my best sport. I think I'm finally and I'm
not joking here. I'm finally getting to a level of
football where I feel like it equals what I did
in basketball, because I did hundreds of basketball games in
the nineties and and felt really good about my basketball
call after a while, put a lot into it. And
when I got to the NFL, and I was doing
football obviously at a high level in college at Miami
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and everything, but the reps you don't get as many,
you know, because it's once a week and everything, and
you know it's not the same when you're calling it
off TV or even a practice sort of under your breath.
And I feel like I finally get there. But I
got to get in there. I want to see it tight.
And yeah, you can recognize body types and everything, but
especially for defense, you know, tackles are sometimes a rumor.
You know, we always have debates on how to properly
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call a tackle because sometimes like big pile, Like you know,
Johnny will give me something in Q and that'll be
one of the guys, you know, and who knows who
they're gonna give it, and you see it differently, Yeah,
I might see it differently, but you know I'll be
like among the tacklers. You know, I'm kind of like, right,
name a couple of guys, because you know, if somebody
made the effort to get over there and somebody got
a low and somebody got them high, you want to
mention both guys.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And you never quite no, because you don't know who
got their friend, like separating combined sacks, right exactly, because
the only way you can tell in many of those
cases who got their first is to watch a replay.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And don't we don't have.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Time to story quick story about that, because I'll take
the baton that you take.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
No, take it your time.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Quick story about that first game in Texans history playing
the Cowboys said that I have football.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I mean it's monumental right.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Back in Houston, five years no football, Texans Cowboys couldn't
be bigger. They've got the lead, Quincy Carter in the
end zone sack and Gary Walker gets up he and
Seth Payne get there at the same time, it's bang bang.
Gary Walker gets up and flexes, and I'm like, Gary
Walker with the sack.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
They gave it to Seth Pain and Seth's.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Still on the air every morning at Houston, and I'm like, sorry,
I apologize every time I see him. I've actually played
the highlight and I edit out the name sack.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Good.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
We're good with that. My motto in journalism is, when
in doubt, be vague. You can't be wrong when you're vague.
So what I want to know from each of you
is is favorite game. Now.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It doesn't have to be like the year we went
to be won the AC Championship game, Mike, not that
because I've got a favorite I'll tell you what it
is in a few moments. But favorite game you've done
where it was just so satisfying, But it's kind of
under the radar, like a lot of fans might not
really acknowledge it as such, but to you it meant
so much being part of the organization and everything we do.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Okay, I'll give it to you quick. Twenty nineteen playoffs
going to New England and ending the Tom Brady Bill
Belichick airing by beating them there, especially because we had
never won there and almost ten years well it was
ten years earlier. They had beaten us there fifty nine
to nothing. Oh yeah, in a situation where it dropped
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us to zero to six going into the by and
it was it left us. Not only was it a
horrible day, but it snowed that day in October and
we didn't have coach or anything because it was supposed
to be sixty. It was bizarre and win that game.
And you were talking earlier about Temmy Brady, you know,
to see those folks leaving and to know that they
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knew it was over, Yeah, I whipped.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
That's I would have too, Mike.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That is my dream to win in Foxborough against Brady,
and it won't happen because he's done, I think, And
that that had to be satisfying because we've all been
in New England and they play that Josie's on a
vacation far songfield and I just want to like, we're
three of twenty seventeen, we have the lead final minute
and I'm like, even if they drive down the field
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and score here, they're not gonna play that song because
you know they're not gonna you avoided the song. No,
they score Brady to Brandon Cooks like thirty five seconds
left and they got the song in and soul Lax
out there and I just want to strangle him.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Well, they didn't get to play it that night. Ye, Frank,
mine's not under the radar. I'd love to give you one.
It's not. It was this year because Charge.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Trailed the Chargers twenty seven nothing, twenty seven franchise that
hasn't done anything. We had one winning season in the
last fourteen years. We finally win the division. Uh in
large park of the division struggle, but we went win
all these games and finally at night, it's on national TV,
everybody's paying attention, and you get down twenty seven nothing,
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and I'm thinking, well, that's kind of a shame.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Your last goal was fantastic and we lost.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Thank you for that, and I appreciate that, Mike, But
it's twenty seven nothing, and all of a sudden you're
watching it and Biselli Baselli goes, you know, if you
can score here at the end of the half, make
it twenty seven seven, you got a chance, Okay, log
him and are Lie Logan, that's just something you said
and logohman, I book like look just looking at him,
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just looking at him, like really, wells go at the
end of the half and when they came when he
lines up for the field goal, I remember thinking, Mike,
I'm thinking, God, it'd be a shame if he misses this.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
After all this this, that's.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
God a lot to make him make this, Okay, I
mean just all, you know, because all this stuff and
I'm watching it and I don't win. That kick went
through and they had won the game, and we lost
our mind in the call. I think it's the most
exhilarated I've ever felt in my career.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
As far as just exhilarating. Yeah, that's all. It was
the most exhilarated felt. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That was a and I get chills telling you guys
the story about it beating the Chargers thirty one thirty
on the last play the gain.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, favorite moments so far. What had to have been?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Mean, there's a Patriots theme here, but the Colts prior
to last year twenty twenty one, had not beaten the
Patriots since two thousand and nine, and there have been
a lot of AFC playoff games in that mix. You know,
the deflate game was in there, Tom Brady, you know
the history of Bill Belichick, so on and so forth.
But it's a flex game late in the year, like
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Week sixteen, Week seventeen, right before Christmas got flex to
Saturday night. So it's a standalone game, primetime game at
Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Colts get off to the good start. They're up by ten.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Then it gets down to three points late in the
game and you're thinking, okay, you know, Carson Wentz has
thrown for like fifty yards in the game. It's like,
we know they're gonna give the ball to Jonathan Taylor.
Can they get enough first downs? Can they eke out
the clock and win this game and hold on? They
get the ball, like at the forty yard line, Colts
in their own territory, hand it off to Jonathan Taylor.
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Boom gone sixty five yards for a touchdown. The place
is going berserk. It was huge for the Colts playoff
chances for the moment. Obviously it came, you know, it
crashed and burned Week seventeen and eighteen, but to that point,
everybody thought, okay, getting off to a slow start record
wise really kind of you know, find some momentum string
together some wins, beat the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
The place was going nuts. You know.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
My call was just like electric. I'm standing up and
making sure I don't mess it up. You know, Jonathan
Taylor is like looking back at the guy in real time?
You know, do I score? Do I go out of bounds?
You know, do I just go down? He's that fast
and that good and processing all that information in real
time and so trying to incorporate that and the call
was challenging. But you know, the place was nuts, and
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that was probably my favorite game or favorite call so far.
My favorite game though, was the playoff game in twenty eighteen,
and it has nothing to do with the Texans. You know,
that was the year I was the interim guy. Eight
and eighteen I was the interim guy, so I'm basically
doing two jobs at once and just going through a
lot of personal anxiety. But that game was a Saturday,
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I think it was a Saturday night game. Friday before
we take off, I get pulled into an office and
they say, you know, we're ripping the tag off if
you're the guy.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Wo nice. Nice.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
So getting a call my first playoff game with like
the pressure off the anxiety off kind of having like
that free mentality to sort of be myself, not worrying
if I'm doing the job good enough for someone else. Right,
So that one was just like mentally freeing and just
exciting to be a part of well.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
And that's a good lead into my favorite game because
it tells the story or part of the story about
the Colts domination over the Tech right. And there's no
other team that has been able to do this to
the Texans. Even though the Texans are an expansion team.
You would expect some struggles and everything. Tennessee's got a
winning record against the Texans, but but look, even the
last two years, we've beaten the Titans twice in Nashville
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each of the last two years.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Jacksonville obviously had some success against Jacksonville, but the Cults
are the all time nemesis. And it goes back to
the RCA Dome, which no longer exists. Which don't at me,
we're in the right way, Oh, this is where it was.
This was the loudest building in the NFL. I look,
I've been to them all, like you guys have, and
I don't know how you feel. Mike but that place
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was unbelievably loud, small, Dwight Freendy and Robert Mathis coming
off the edge, Manning just inflicting terror on everybody.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It was.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And look, the Texans were never able to win here
until twenty fifteen. And in that season Houston was two
and five, had two massive blowout losses going nowhere, everybody's
gonna get fired. It's awful, and beat the Titans to
go to three at five, and then Monday Night football
at Cincinnati, they're undefeated and somehow Houston wins and it's
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ten to six.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
That's the score of the game. TJ. Yeats comes off
the bench.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
He had beaten the Bengals in twenty eleven on the
road and in the playoffs. I mean it was like
the stuff of legend, and I had a nice call.
He threw the ball to Hopkins. Anyway, later on that season,
because it's quarterback carousel, we're down to our fifth guy.
It's really Yates is the fourth guy. He gets hurt
at Indy and then Brandon Whedon has to come in
a few weeks earlier's playing for the Cowboys. He comes
in throws a touchdown pass to Jalen straw and they
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win sixteen to ten. That was my favorite win other
than like you know, winning playoff games and things, but
that is the most satisfying. Owen thirteen in Indy. Owen thirteen.
I walked out of the booth. I was like, this
is amazing, amazing to beat the Colts and the Texans
won the division that year after starting two win five,
So that's mine.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
This is good. We got to do this every year. Yeah,
we do because we could go four or five hours.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
He really could.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
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Hello Texans, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Okay, today a little bit of a departure as the
AFC South radio voices got together.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
This happened back at the combine.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But this is timeless stuff basically, well it's timeless stuff
for this season anyway, this offseason that we were talking about.
Mike Keith of the Tennessee Titans. He organized this. I
want to give him full credit for that, and it
appeared on his programming originally, but it's good on everybody's.
Frank Frangie voice of the Jacksonville Jaguars, and Matt Taylor,
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voice of the Indianapolis Colts and me. So the four
of us got together, asked each other questions, talked about
things related to broadcasting and the franchises that we work with,
and four at its fun stuff.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
And here it is today for the first time, we
have not one, not two, not three, but all four
of the AFC South play by play announcers together. Let
me introduce you to them. Mark Van me is the
only voice of the Houston Texans. You've been the guy
since two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Welcome, Thank you very much, Mike, and you've been the
only voice of the Titans.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Yes, it's true. Yes, right, that's true.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Not the Oilers, but the Titans, which never the voice
of the Oilers. Well, since the Titans are sort of
well not sort of keeping the Oiler history, you don't
get to have that the station. It's all me, boys,
I'm the only guy in the league to have it
all right, we bow down.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Frank Franjie is a Jacksonville legend, as he's been involved
in sports talk radio there for thirty five years. Frank
is entering his tenth season as the voice of the Jaguars.
And you started in print.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah, I did it, and the first well, legend is
a synonym for old. Okay, so I'm the old guy.
But you went to Inglewood and everyting. I'm a Jacksonville guy.
I was a sports writer. I wasn't all that good
at that, so I got into the broadcast side, and yeah,
kind of like you. I did a lot of college
stuff beforehand, and uh wound up. This will be my
tenth year doing the Jags game.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
So yeah, you and I have known each other since
before Matt Taylor was born. That's exactly right. Matt Taylor
is the youthful one in the group. The voice of
the Indianapolis Colts. He is an indian native. He played
football at Franklin College. Voice of the Colts since twenty eighteen.
Welcome to the old Guy crew. And here's my question
for you. Welcome to when they put the three of
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us in a home and you're still going strong, will
you come visit?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I will come visit you. I'll make sure the jello
is the flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
That's you?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
What?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
No, come on now?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
That's okay, three of us, Yeah, actually broadcast in our hometowns.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Wow. One is an interloper. Okay. But there's a distinction
here as well. All Right.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I wasn't born in Texas, but got there as fast
as I could, which is a Texas expression.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I have two sons born on Texas soil, which is
like marrying into the family. So my DNA has been
spliced properly out of Texan.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, and you don't say y'all. And I've never seen
in a cowboy hat.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And funny because a lot of people who aren't for
Texas end up saying y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And I really don't do that.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I really don't think it's hard for me to go there,
because I think it would be an affectation for me
to a degree, but I definitely have picked up a
little bit of an accent, you know. And when I
hang out back on the East Coast. I grew up
in the New York area, went to school in Boston.
If I'm there for a week, I come back and
I sound like Jerry Seinfeld.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, mettle like this. So my wife, who is from Indiana,
is from the northern part of Indiana, right outside of Chicago.
She got up in church to give a committee report,
and she says, good morning, y'all, and I'm like, yeah,
that's not like yeah, well, but I mean it's part
of her effect.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Now she's been in Tennessee for thirty nine years, so
I guess she.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Can do that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Mike and I are Southerners by and saying y'all is
actually required legally, legally, So even if you don't have
something to say, you just run down the street and
say y'all.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
That's not all, y'all all, y'all. Yeah, right, yeah, that's right,
that's real. So okay.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
The format of this thing is simple. Each one of
us gets three questions, one for the other announcers. Since
his team won the AFC South this past year. Frank
Franchie of the Jacksonville Jaguars, you go first, sir, What
do you want to know how?
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And again I should go first. Not only do we
win the division, but we dominate it so often, so
I think there's that. So that's what we've been I
got a lot of questions about about where these franchises are.
Let's let's talk about the franchises. And I want to
start with Mark because Mark further, when I started doing this,
the Texans won the thing every year. You know, the
Texans were a dominant team, and then I watched how
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it changed the Deshaun Watson things. So my question for
you is where are you? Is the rebuild starting? Is
the rebuild is it? Is it underway? Because of all
these draft picks, how do you feel about to make
where where's the franchise?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's fluid, Frank, it's fluid. You guys know how it is.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
It's Bill O'Brien used to say, every year is different, right,
and every year is different because you never know what's
going to happen. Look at what happened to the Jaguars
this year. We all thought the Colts would do a
lot better. Obviously, with Matt Ryan and then look what
happened and Tennessee. I never could have predicted this, you know.
A year ago, I was saying, you know, Tennessee looks
like the premier team in the division and organization in
the division. And then the dismissal of John Robinson, I'm thinking,
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oh wow, that's a real change, you know. And obviously
everybody goes through changes, and the Texans have gone through
more than anybody in recent years. So yeah, I think
the rebuild if you want to call it that. No
one's going to call it that publicly, but it is.
I mean, when you win four four and three games,
you're rebuilding, you're retooling, rebuilding below whatever it is, you're
redoing it. But I think it is underway, and it
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has been underway because of the last two draft classes
by Nick Cassario leading into the twenty twenty three draft class,
that you have some seedlings, some good foundational pieces there
to build on, and finally they get the coach that
can be here for a long time. You know, David Colleague,
great guy, wasn't the right coach. Lovey Smith didn't work out.
We don't have to get into all that. But now
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they have to meet go Ryans who played for the team.
Obviously best player leader I've ever been around in the
Texans Organiza say that includes the quarterbacks, and he's the
right guy for the job. Premiere higher right there, and
I'm excited to see what happens.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
And i am too. I think I'm very intrigued with it.
My question for you, Mike, we could all talk about
where's the state of the franchise, but more than that,
we had this guy that grew.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Up in Yulie.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
Julie is very close to Jacksonville, it's probably about thirty miles.
Everybody said, well, you know, he's a good high school
running back, but he's gonna have to play defensive end
in college. He can't run, he's too upright, and lo
and behold he went. He went to college and he
played running back, and he did okay, okay, won that
big trophy. And then they said, well, we gets the NFL.
He's now he's you can't the NFL's five nine two
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o five running backs. I think Derrick Henry's one of
the greatest athletes to ever come out of my area.
My question is how long has he got left or
how much does he have left. He's twenty nine. He
defies the eyes. The rules tell us running backs are
done now at twenty nine or thirty, But I don't
believe it.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
With him.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
How much longer are we going to have Derrick Henry
watching Derrick Henry look like Dereck Henry Number one?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think it's how long does he want to do it?
His conditioning is so crazy. I think that's why he's
at this point. Matt and I were discussing it earlier
in the week. He's beaten the odds already. Running Backs
don't fall off the cliff, as Charles Davis likes to say,
they don't even make it to the cliff. And I mean,
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there's just gonna come a point where he can't do
it anymore. Now, when is that? I mean, you saw
it with Arian Foster in Houston, and certainly you saw
it with Fred Taylor in Jacksonville, and we saw it
with Eddie George, and I mean it happens. I certainly
think the plan if he's on this roster this year,
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the plan is to make sure he touches the ball
twenty to twenty five times a game like normal. Yeah, Well,
I mean that's what you're gonna do. He's a first
and second down back, you know, and we know that
about Derek. Derek does play some third down, but very little,
and so he doesn't get every snap, which probably helps
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the beating he takes ways on the other side. But
I think he's still Derrick Henry until just the moment
he's not. And at that moment it will probably be
something you'll see very quickly, because quickness is not his thing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
It's about getting to the fourth or fifth step, and
then he's when he's rolling, he's you seen bolt fast.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
It's not a stopwatch thing. It's a plaything.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
But at the moment that it's over, I think it'll
be obvious to everybody. But from what he did last year,
it's clearly not over.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
And I can tell you defensive coaches at Jacksonville different staffs.
We tend to change the staffs a lot of all
the week. Do you play the Titans, they spend days
working on stiff arm. Right, they have stiff arm practice.
I don't know if the Textans and the Colts have
done that, but they all they'll have a segment of practice,
I mean working on stiff working on not getting stiff armed, right,
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which is which is amazing. That's an extra portion of
your practice week that they only do again when they're
playing the Titans.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
If he has one more great year, suddenly you're talking
about hall of Fame question, because if you look at
the backs who are in the Hall of Fame, it's
generally five year stretches.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Right.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, certain players are judged for their careers, right,
but backs are really judged on periods of time.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And the Gail Sayers twelve days absolutely well.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
And we think Fred Taylor should be in the Hall.
His numbers are incredible, and the running back is kind
of a dying breed. The Hall of Fame running backs
a dying breed. It's not gonna be a lot of
them make it now, so we think Fred maybe next,
but it'll be interesting to watch.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Well, one thing though, before we get off the Derek
Henry subject, and we'll probably return to it.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Don't you guys feel like the other? All right?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
So you're you're playing Mike's team, We don't, but our
teams are. When they pull Derreck Henry off the field
on third down, I'm like, ye, same same even there
now maybe to wear and tear, but sometimes and look,
this is probably a broader football discussion for coaches, But
third and eight, third and seven. If I'm a defense
and as a play by play guy, I'm terrified when
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I see Derek Henry. He's one of the most terrifying players.
As a play by play announcer, it's third down, and
I want my team off the field. When when I
see Derek Hmill first and second in his case, when
I see Derek Henry on the field, it's it's terror.
It's like, oh my gosh, what are we gonna do
to stop him? It used to be Peyton Manning with
the Colts, Steve McNair a little bit right with with
the Titans. Of course with Jacksonville Nobody. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I first shot, Yeah, I first shot Fred Taylor.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
But I was trying to think of somebody when he
was saying that. No, no, I've been as a play
but player.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Back to the stiff arms, I'm wondering which one of
our guys is going to get stiff armed into the
front row. And I'm like, Mark, I love it when
he's out of the game, you know, So, I mean,
but you got to third and nine.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
You can't keep running well.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And let's face it to part of the most fun,
one of the most fun parts of our job is
watching guys on our teams who are freaks.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's so much fun to see somebody who is just
and he's one of those. I mean, he is crazy strong,
no question, he's that guy. He's that guy.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
My question for you, Matt, And Matt told me stat
and I knew it, but I didn't know it when
Matt sat in with me the other day. It's been
fifteen and sixteen since the Colts have had a quarterback
play starting the same starting quarterback pat back years. That
just astounded me, not that I didn't know it, but
because I've done the games all these years, it just
just forget me.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
So, so, and I'm gonna ask you a question about
your boss. So, how do you talk about your boss
on on air? I guess but thanks, Hey, you're no problem.
But how does the ownership Jim Ursay, who I think
is a good owner, but he's kind of out there
connect with your public, with your fan base. He was
very good in the Peyton years and very good in
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the luckiears. How does he connect I'm very curious about that.
I mean, I think he's one of the best owners
in the game. I mean, certainly, he's a fascinating guy.
He's got a ton of outside of interests, outside of football.
I mean, he's got the which I'm sure you guys
have seen.
Speaker 5 (12:01):
He's he collects uh billion a half Okay, yeah, I mean,
and right now he's taken across the country. I don't
I don't know if you guys are privy to this,
but he's got he's got tour stops all over the country.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
He's been doing it since November.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
I think actually next weekend is going to be in
Las Vegas where the collection's on display. Then he's got
the band that he's in and it's it's a I mean,
you love music, we all love music. He's got Kenny
Wayne Shepherd in the band. He's got the drummer that
used to play all over the country with John Mellencamp.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
He's playing with.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Joe Walsh, She's played you know, the guys that were
in Fleetwood Max. So he's a fascinating guy. I think
he connects well with you know, the city, you know,
with with the fan base. He more so than anybody
is desperate for this franchise to get back to where
it was. You know, the last time the Colts won
the AFC South was twenty fourteen, right, every point. Every
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team has won it twice since then in the division. Wow,
that's hard to believe.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, well, if we could do a whole freak e
stats kind of segment here. But so the Colts wanted
in twenty fourteen, right, The Texans since twenty eleven have
won it six times and since that time, and that's
more than anybody. Since that time, all three other teams
have been to the AFC Championship Game except the Texans,
and they won the division more than anybody else, which
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is a weird status.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Weird.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
My final thing before I passed it off, I'll tell
you a story, a Nursey story. So I'm I graduated
from Florida in nineteen eighty and in nineteen seventy nine,
I'm kind of home for the summer, working summer jobs,
no money, and we were going out, hanging out, and
so all of a sudden, the word gets around that
you gotta go down to the stadium, the Gator Bowl
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at the time, Okay, because something BIG's happening like late song. Okay,
so we're gonna go down there. So we didn't know
what was but you know, our parents and our friends knew.
So I'm a broke, broke ass college student. Why I'm
getting a free hot dog and a coke. I'm gonna
go there. We go to the Gator Bowl. Sixty thousand people,
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sixty thousand show up at the Gator Bowl for a
hot dog and a coke to watch Robert or Say
fly in on a helicopter because he's thinking about moving
the Baltimore Colts to Jacksonville and we wanted it so bad.
The helicopter lands. Okay, I got my hot dog and
a coke. Okay, which is big news for me. There's
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sixty thousand people just to say hello. He gets out
of the helicopter, walks at waives everybody, and gets back
in it and leaves.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
It's probably about.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Twenty minutes, and I'm convinced. I'm convinced that's the first
step in Jacksonville having an NFL team. I'm convinced that
Robert Say getting out of that helicopter waving to all
of us with our hot dogs on our cokes is
not why but it's the first step of why jackson.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
That's a great story.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
The Oilers flirted with Jacksonville all back in the day.
We're all a division now and both other French as.
Jacksonville gets a team, eventually Houston gets a team back.
That's interesting and the Oilers was in eighty seven. By
then I was a sports writer and I covered the story.
I actually went to Houston. Well, and there's also a strike. Yeah,
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so the Oilers were talking about coming to Jacksonville. There
was a strike going on, so Warren Moon and some
of the players were practicing on their own at Love
Park or some park in Houston. I went out there
and did a story talking to them, Hey, how you
feel about jackson Hey, we love to come to Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
We'll come more.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And then I covered a replacement game, right and then
came back.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
So I remember that storry very well.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
I want to ask Mark vandermir of the Houston Texans
to this question. The Titans are unveiling oiler uniforms this year.
If the Titans where the oiler uniforms against the Texans,
will there be any sort of reaction from the Texans
fan be reaction?
Speaker 1 (15:57):
All right? You think, yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Because all right, So the Columbia blue, do you still
call it Columbia blue? In say Titan blue, you say
Titan blue, So you change the name of the blue,
but it's, you know, basically the blue that we're all blue.
We know it kind of blue blue. Yeah, it's that
light blue. Well, it's funny because the Texans have made
it public that they're experimenting with uniform changes possibly coming
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into play next year and we'll see how it goes.
It's a process, and they've had a lot of focus
groups and they've actually put out a lot of stuff
that the fans have sent them, and some of the
stuff involves this.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
We call it h Town blue, all right, And I've
learned about colors today.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Oh, our senior director of marketing put up all the
blues on a board that you know, Detroit, you know,
the Honolulu Blue, Carolina Titans, and they're all kind of blue,
but they're all different. In fact, if you put the
Titan logo on the Detroit blue, it looks like the Titans.
It's hard for the eye to tell, but they're all
a little tiny bit different than PMS color or whatever
they call it. Anyway, Texans have started to sell that
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h Town Blue and gear in you know, T shirts,
long sleeve T shirts, jackets, along with the battle red
and the Deep Steel blue and the Liberty White.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
We have to how many colors do you get to have?
We have three Liberty White, Deep Steel Blue, battle Red.
This would have blown up my sixty.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
And now we've had they and then there's fall because
the h Town blue is really it goes back even
before the Oilers. There are things in Houston that have
that blue on it, like architectural structures and things like that,
and it's a Houston color. So the Rockets have used
it as well. The Houston fans go nuts for this
when they see oiler of unis on the Titans, and
I know they did a few years back, maybe ten
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years ago with the nineteen year Rich the Yeah yeah,
the AFL right, and those were like the original oiler
uniforms that look kind of like the oiler uniforms that
we grew.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
To know, but not quite. This will be a real kick.
Is going to be the red. You think you think
they will react negatively.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They'll they'll be it'll be jealous, It'll be you know,
they left us, what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know? The fan you know fans all right they react. Look, fans,
you don't make it on third down, they go crazy.
So and but it's good you want them to be passionate.
All we have is teal in black. I need fancy names.
I do not have fancy names from I don't like Jaguars.
That's my goal.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
My goal is something funky, Jay Town Jaguar. I mean
a change volteel. Yes, I've got it. I'm marketing for
right now.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I passed the stick to Matt Taylor. All right, questions
from Matt? Can I go a different direction? Do whatever
you want strictly football? No, this is a good roundtap discussion. Okay,
let's go inside the biz. Let's go behind the Michael
to do it. You guys have been doing this a
long time. You guys have been to basically every NFL stadium.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
Give me the best booth in the NFL to call
a game, give me the worst booth to call a game,
and your favorite visiting stadium to call a game within
the division.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
All right, I'll go uh wait, can can we just
say two things first to the listeners?
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Booth? Uh and stadium are off in different things. Right.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
You could have a great stadium, but the booth could
be terrible. Also, even play by play announcers versus engineers. Right,
there are some booths that I've really liked, Like Oakland
was terrific as far as the view once I'm sitting down,
Oakland was great. The engineers hated it's small. They got
out the hall. Yeah, the equipment's out in the hall like.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
The day one.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
So there's there are different categories here, But go on, Frank, Yeah,
well no, I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
For the look of the game. I love love the
Metal and met Life Stadium. You're right there. It's a
perfect look. It's clean, it's easy. That's probably. I like
the Patriots. I like even though you're not near the
other you get that. Why I like wit spread and
and and those are my two favorite worst booths in
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the history of organized sport.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Is Washington.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
It's they They actually should shut down the franchise because
of the broadcast.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Wait wait, wait, it's Miami. Miamiami, thankers. Miami. Miami is
worse of Washington. The new Miami. It's not.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It's not worse. You're wrong, but I appreciate that. You're
not wrong because Washington's low. It's low and bad.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Is Miami? Okay?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I mean, would all agree with that, but Miami Glasstan Yes,
opposite side field, Yeah, in the corner of the zone.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Too small. It's crazy bad.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
My friends at the University of Tennessee got to play
in the Orange Bowl this year and they called me.
They go, hey, can we get four across on the front.
I'm like, you may not even be able.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
To get two as somebody's got to stand. Well, here's
what they did.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
They got the booth next to them because there was
no national radio or something for that game, and so
they put the color commentator in another booth.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They're tiny, you can't.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
When they should be. They should be out of the
league in my opinion, based on the booth. And you
have to walk through that night club slow, yeah, to
get to the booth. Franchise, Can I tell a New
England booth story real quick? So we're up there in
two thousand and three and we're playing and the head
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of the company it is a massive booth. You can
get twenty people in there, I mean at least best,
both in terms of size.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
It is.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So the head of the company says that his nephews
are fans of Tom Brady. Can they come and stand
in our booth, but there are rights holders company and
it's the president of the company, so we got to
do it. So they've got press passes and they're standing
in the back of the booth and they're very polite.
They were very, very nice young men, and it all
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worked brilliantly until postgame they had press credentials on and
so they went to the Patriots locker room no. And
asked Tom Brady for autographs as he was coming out
of the shower of.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We're on a plane going back to Nashville, just lost
a tough game, and we get this call. Larry Stone,
who was running our network at this time, gets a
call about who on your crew? So the Patriots complained
to the NFL, and our media relations guy, Robbie Born says,
what is this because he knows all of us, he's
at that time, he's worked with all of us for
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six years, and he's like, who on your crew went
down and got Tom Brady's autograph? In postgame? We're like,
we have no idea what you're talking about. And so
finally somebody with the Patriots came through it. And this
is before camera phone, so nobody really took a picture
of him. So they gave a description. It's like, oh no,
and so we explain the story and it does not
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satisfy the Patriots, it doesn't satisfy the NFL. It doesn't
it doesn't satisfy our people. And this went on for
like weeks where we're having to answer for this, and
finally we said call so and so we're not taking
a call all about it anymore. They were gonna find
us for it.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
Wow, well, thank goodness I'm here because Frank New England
and guys, I don't know how you guys feel about
the Patriots booth, but it is good in that all right.
It's close, but it's too low. It's too low because
when the play, when when you first get there, you're like,
this is gonna be awesome. When the players are standing
on the sideline, you your view is actually obstructed up
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until the numbers on that end. So when somebody catches
a pass on the near sideline, you're like, ah, it's
kind of like calling a three in basketball when they're
in the corner and you can't see if their feet
are behind the line.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
You just gotta wait for the official to put his
hands up, right.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I gotta wait for the official to rule it a
catch in order to call it correctly in New England. Plus,
you're right there with the fans, so it's like Tommy
Brady's the best quarterback half. I saw it and I'm thinking,
oh my gosh, that's making it on the air.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
Back in the day, Bill Pollian used to I mean,
the relationship between Patriots, Patriots fans and Bill Pollion, You
guys know what, that really really good.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's really good.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
So Bill, because of how big the booth was, Bill
would actually sit in the booth and watch the game.
Uh and because and then I don't know when they
did it, but they actually elevated the booth up a
little bit because the fans used to be literally right
right right there under you. Now they're maybe like five
or six feet under you. But they would they would
throw stuff in the booth and yell things. Obviously at
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Bill and all those epic playoff games. I do have
to share this picture though, if we can zoom in
on this, that's Miami.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
No, this is I'm sorry, Frank.
Speaker 5 (24:33):
This is twenty nineteen, week seventeen at Jacksonville. There's a
torrential rainstorm and it is raining.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
In the booth.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I did in ninety nine, the third game I ever did. Yeah,
there was water blowing into the booth. We I mean,
it's one of those funny things that happens in Florida
where you get a storm right over you so and
and the what and it blows all my notes. I mean,
I've did the whole second half with Pat Ryan and
we had nothing because they had no game programs left.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Fortunately it was a division team, so you knew them. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Well, yeah, we try and drench the visiting this part
of the goal.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Yeah, this is it's all psychological. So about that.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Hour before the bus ride to the stadium in twenty nineteen,
I get a call from the PR guy that says, yeah,
it's raining.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
In your booth. I said, it's training in our booth.
What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (25:23):
So we we bring towels from we steal towels from
the hotel, but steal good.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So there's the rain bucket catching the water and so
we're called So this this area here was not even
used during the game, So we call the game from
like where the engineers site up above. So that's that's
my horror story on it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Well, you know, the best I'll do a game is
Nissan Stadium because it's low and because you're not obstructed
by the fans, and because you're on that twenty five
to thirty five area, you can see the whole field.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's good, it's good, but it looks better, all right,
Jacksonville's better, ye jackson But in the middle it's a
better view because all right, Tennessee, I'm not saying it's bad.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm not saying it's bad.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
But you come into our booth and steal snacks every
time you come out from how are you talking to us?
Then say something nice about us, whether you want to
or not. I do, I know it hurts you.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
I do, uh. I do think the booth is pretty good.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
But the problem is when they're off to the right
end of the field, when they get inside the twenty,
it gets a little like now the yard line the
pot when they pile on I'm like seventeen or that.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, it's a little with him heat. I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Well, you guys said the best booth or with the
biggest booth was the Patriots. But I like Dallas. Dallas
is a wonderful I don't like the view, but the
booth that.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Bathroom.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, but you know it's like in Los Angeles, though,
where you have to call part of the game off
the jumbo trone because there are parts of the field
you can't see.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I don't have a problem in Dallas because the height
of it, like Pittsburgh, is long.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
I don't mind being in the corner if I'm high up.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
If I'm low like Miami or Washington, that's a real
disaster Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I tell you a quick story, but I was doing
college games. Do you remember, and you probably remember it,
when when LSU won the national title under less Miles,
they beat Auburn in a game, Mike, you may remember this.
At the end of the game, there's like nine seconds left.
They should have kicked the forty yard field goal to win,
but instead he ran to play and they hit a
touchdown on the left corner. Do you remember this play?
He hit a touchdown the left corner of the end zone.
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It was a dumb call, but with one second left
to they win the game. Well, I'm doing the game
with Toretta, and I'm in the right corner. I'm in
the high I'm in the right corner at baton rouge,
I can't see it. We're so far right, I can't
see it. And the big it's the biggest game of
the year in college football. And I'm doing radio and
they dropped to throw fired at left corner of the
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end zone. I mean, I can't see anything. So I'm thinking,
now I got a decision to make. Okay, this is
the biggest play of the year in college football, and
and and so and and the only time I've ever
done this in my life, and all the youth player
I guess what. I saw the fans jump up and
I and I said touchdown ls U, having no idea
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whether it was a touchdown LSU. But I saw the
fans jumping number one, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I said,
and you and yeah, you always wait for it, but
I just I did, and it was a touchdown. I
thought to myself, I said, what would that have done
to my career if it wasn't?
Speaker 1 (28:34):
You know what I mean? And to play that bad
was thank you Jesus.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah yeah, I mean, how much do you guys use
binoculars to call the game?
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't. I did not you do.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like every play, every play, every play, every play in
Texans history has been done with binoculars. I mean every
single one. I will not do it play without it.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
For me, it's identifying the running back first. Fore I
got to get in there. I got it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Like I'm used to calling basketball, which I always thought
was my best sport. I think I'm finally and I'm
not joking here. I'm finally getting to a level of
football where I feel like it equals what I did
in basketball, because I did hundreds of basketball games in
the nineties and and felt really good about my basketball
call after a while, put a lot into it. And
when I got to the NFL, and I was doing
football obviously at a high level in college at Miami
(29:17):
and everything, but the reps you don't get as many,
you know, because it's once a week and everything, and
you know it's not the same when you're calling it
off TV or even a practice sort of under your breath.
And I feel like I finally get there. But I
got to get in there. I want to see it tight.
And yeah, you can recognize body types and everything, but
especially for defense, you know, tackles are sometimes a rumor.
You know, we always have debates on how to properly
(29:39):
call a tackle because sometimes like big pile, Like you know,
Johnny will give me something in Q and that'll be
one of the guys, you know, and who knows who
they're gonna give it, and you see it differently, Yeah,
I might see it differently, but you know I'll be
like among the tacklers. You know, I'm kind of like, right,
name a couple of guys, because you know, if somebody
made the effort to get over there and somebody got
a low and somebody got them high, you want to
mention both guys.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
And you never quite no, because you don't know who
got their friend, like separating combined sacks, right exactly, because
the only way you can tell in many of those
cases who got their first is to watch a replay.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
And don't we don't have.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Time to story quick story about that, because I'll take
the baton that you take.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
No, take it your time.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Quick story about that first game in Texans history playing
the Cowboys said that I have football.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I mean it's monumental right.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Back in Houston, five years no football, Texans Cowboys couldn't
be bigger. They've got the lead, Quincy Carter in the
end zone sack and Gary Walker gets up he and
Seth Payne get there at the same time, it's bang bang.
Gary Walker gets up and flexes, and I'm like, Gary
Walker with the sack.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
They gave it to Seth Pain and Seth's.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Still on the air every morning at Houston, and I'm like, sorry,
I apologize every time I see him. I've actually played
the highlight and I edit out the name sack.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Good.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
We're good with that. My motto in journalism is, when
in doubt, be vague. You can't be wrong when you're vague.
So what I want to know from each of you
is is favorite game. Now.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It doesn't have to be like the year we went
to be won the AC Championship game, Mike, not that
because I've got a favorite I'll tell you what it
is in a few moments. But favorite game you've done
where it was just so satisfying, But it's kind of
under the radar, like a lot of fans might not
really acknowledge it as such, but to you it meant
so much being part of the organization and everything we do.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Okay, I'll give it to you quick. Twenty nineteen playoffs
going to New England and ending the Tom Brady Bill
Belichick airing by beating them there, especially because we had
never won there and almost ten years well it was
ten years earlier. They had beaten us there fifty nine
to nothing. Oh yeah, in a situation where it dropped
(31:46):
us to zero to six going into the by and
it was it left us. Not only was it a
horrible day, but it snowed that day in October and
we didn't have coach or anything because it was supposed
to be sixty. It was bizarre and win that game.
And you were talking earlier about Temmy Brady, you know,
to see those folks leaving and to know that they
(32:08):
knew it was over, Yeah, I whipped.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
That's I would have too, Mike.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That is my dream to win in Foxborough against Brady,
and it won't happen because he's done, I think, And
that that had to be satisfying because we've all been
in New England and they play that Josie's on a
vacation far songfield and I just want to like, we're
three of twenty seventeen, we have the lead final minute
and I'm like, even if they drive down the field
(32:35):
and score here, they're not gonna play that song because
you know they're not gonna you avoided the song. No,
they score Brady to Brandon Cooks like thirty five seconds
left and they got the song in and soul Lax
out there and I just want to strangle him.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Well, they didn't get to play it that night. Ye, Frank,
mine's not under the radar. I'd love to give you one.
It's not. It was this year because Charge.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Trailed the Chargers twenty seven nothing, twenty seven franchise that
hasn't done anything. We had one winning season in the
last fourteen years. We finally win the division. Uh in
large park of the division struggle, but we went win
all these games and finally at night, it's on national TV,
everybody's paying attention, and you get down twenty seven nothing,
(33:17):
and I'm thinking, well, that's kind of a shame.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Your last goal was fantastic and we lost.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Thank you for that, and I appreciate that, Mike, But
it's twenty seven nothing, and all of a sudden you're
watching it and Biselli Baselli goes, you know, if you
can score here at the end of the half, make
it twenty seven seven, you got a chance, Okay, log
him and are Lie Logan, that's just something you said
and logohman, I book like look just looking at him,
(33:42):
just looking at him, like really, wells go at the
end of the half and when they came when he
lines up for the field goal, I remember thinking, Mike,
I'm thinking, God, it'd be a shame if he misses this.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
After all this this, that's.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
God a lot to make him make this, Okay, I
mean just all, you know, because all this stuff and
I'm watching it and I don't win. That kick went
through and they had won the game, and we lost
our mind in the call. I think it's the most
exhilarated I've ever felt in my career.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
As far as just exhilarating. Yeah, that's all. It was
the most exhilarated felt. That's awesome.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
That was a and I get chills telling you guys
the story about it beating the Chargers thirty one thirty
on the last play the gain.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Yeah, favorite moments so far. What had to have been?
Speaker 5 (34:23):
Mean, there's a Patriots theme here, but the Colts prior
to last year twenty twenty one, had not beaten the
Patriots since two thousand and nine, and there have been
a lot of AFC playoff games in that mix. You know,
the deflate game was in there, Tom Brady, you know
the history of Bill Belichick, so on and so forth.
But it's a flex game late in the year, like
(34:45):
Week sixteen, Week seventeen, right before Christmas got flex to
Saturday night. So it's a standalone game, primetime game at
Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Colts get off to the good start. They're up by ten.
Speaker 5 (34:56):
Then it gets down to three points late in the
game and you're thinking, okay, you know, Carson Wentz has
thrown for like fifty yards in the game. It's like,
we know they're gonna give the ball to Jonathan Taylor.
Can they get enough first downs? Can they eke out
the clock and win this game and hold on? They
get the ball, like at the forty yard line, Colts
in their own territory, hand it off to Jonathan Taylor.
(35:16):
Boom gone sixty five yards for a touchdown. The place
is going berserk. It was huge for the Colts playoff
chances for the moment. Obviously it came, you know, it
crashed and burned Week seventeen and eighteen, but to that point,
everybody thought, okay, getting off to a slow start record
wise really kind of you know, find some momentum string
together some wins, beat the Patriots.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
The place was going nuts. You know.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
My call was just like electric. I'm standing up and
making sure I don't mess it up. You know, Jonathan
Taylor is like looking back at the guy in real time?
You know, do I score? Do I go out of bounds?
You know, do I just go down? He's that fast
and that good and processing all that information in real
time and so trying to incorporate that and the call
was challenging. But you know, the place was nuts, and
(36:02):
that was probably my favorite game or favorite call so far.
My favorite game though, was the playoff game in twenty eighteen,
and it has nothing to do with the Texans. You know,
that was the year I was the interim guy. Eight
and eighteen I was the interim guy, so I'm basically
doing two jobs at once and just going through a
lot of personal anxiety. But that game was a Saturday,
(36:26):
I think it was a Saturday night game. Friday before
we take off, I get pulled into an office and
they say, you know, we're ripping the tag off if
you're the guy.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Wo nice. Nice.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
So getting a call my first playoff game with like
the pressure off the anxiety off kind of having like
that free mentality to sort of be myself, not worrying
if I'm doing the job good enough for someone else. Right,
So that one was just like mentally freeing and just
exciting to be a part of well.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
And that's a good lead into my favorite game because
it tells the story or part of the story about
the Colts domination over the Tech right. And there's no
other team that has been able to do this to
the Texans. Even though the Texans are an expansion team.
You would expect some struggles and everything. Tennessee's got a
winning record against the Texans, but but look, even the
last two years, we've beaten the Titans twice in Nashville
(37:14):
each of the last two years.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Jacksonville obviously had some success against Jacksonville, but the Cults
are the all time nemesis. And it goes back to
the RCA Dome, which no longer exists. Which don't at me,
we're in the right way, Oh, this is where it was.
This was the loudest building in the NFL. I look,
I've been to them all, like you guys have, and
I don't know how you feel. Mike but that place
(37:38):
was unbelievably loud, small, Dwight Freendy and Robert Mathis coming
off the edge, Manning just inflicting terror on everybody.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
It was.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
And look, the Texans were never able to win here
until twenty fifteen. And in that season Houston was two
and five, had two massive blowout losses going nowhere, everybody's
gonna get fired. It's awful, and beat the Titans to
go to three at five, and then Monday Night football
at Cincinnati, they're undefeated and somehow Houston wins and it's
(38:06):
ten to six.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
That's the score of the game. TJ. Yeats comes off
the bench.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
He had beaten the Bengals in twenty eleven on the
road and in the playoffs. I mean it was like
the stuff of legend, and I had a nice call.
He threw the ball to Hopkins. Anyway, later on that season,
because it's quarterback carousel, we're down to our fifth guy.
It's really Yates is the fourth guy. He gets hurt
at Indy and then Brandon Whedon has to come in
a few weeks earlier's playing for the Cowboys. He comes
in throws a touchdown pass to Jalen straw and they
(38:32):
win sixteen to ten. That was my favorite win other
than like you know, winning playoff games and things, but
that is the most satisfying. Owen thirteen in Indy. Owen thirteen.
I walked out of the booth. I was like, this
is amazing, amazing to beat the Colts and the Texans
won the division that year after starting two win five,
So that's mine.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
This is good. We got to do this every year. Yeah,
we do because we could go four or five hours.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
He really could.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
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