October 13, 2023 • 42 mins
It's a Week 6 Soundfest with WR Robert Woods, Hall of Famer Robert Brazile and Voice of the Saints Mike Hoss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello Texans, Welcome to the podcast. Before we go anywhere,
don't forget to hit subscribe wherever you can subscribe to
this however, just do it. What a special one we
have for you. Robert Brazil, doctor Doom was Lawrence Taylor
before Lawrence Taylor. In fact, he talks about Lawrence Taylor
(00:21):
in this visit as he ushers in the Texas Bowl
Gridiron Legends class for the Teak Texas Bowl, which is
December twenty seventh at NRG Stadium. Also Robert Woods, Johnny
and I caught up with him this week to talk
about what's going on with the team heading into the
New Orleans game, and Saints play by play man Mike
Hoss joins us as well. All right, let's get into
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this with Robert Woods, first wide receiver for your Houston Texans.
As John Harris and I visited with him earlier in
the week. Thanks so much for joining us, Robert, thanks
having me. We appreciate you being here. I know it
was a tough loss against Atlanta. What were some of
the takeaways you had from the game. I know you
guys want to finish the drives and not settle for
field goals. Thanks to Kaimi for making them. But how
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did you see the game overall?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just a little bit of what we were talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I feel like our first two weeks about getting backed
up in the red zone and penalties. I feel like
we got down there a couple of times, and I
think those penalties are having bad first downs, losing with
negative yards and just kind of you know, puss the
drive at a disadvantage now with second and fifteen, second
and thirteen, and it's hard when playing against a good
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defense and good team need to capitalize on all those
get the points when you can. And you see what
happened at the end, just giving them a chance to
come back with enough time, not enough points on the
offensive side, But we saw a team that played all
four quarters and battled, found a way to get turnovers
on defense, and just just got to finish out and
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close it.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What was the last time, Robert you played defense back?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
You go back to.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
High school week, in college week, in college week, in
college week in college almost played a nickelback?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Really?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Well you playing dB on that ball yesterday. I mean
you didn't get a past breakup for that one. But
when did you know, oh, this one's in trouble. I
might have to make a defensive back play on it
to throw that Baits almost picked off.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, this time, I can't just run across the middle,
feeling like it was for a good safety. Who'll be there?
Who Baits is feeling like he'll be able to make
a play. It was hanging in the air, but still
just attacked it like normal. Didn't realize until I went
for the ball and saw another set of hands. Yeah,
trying to go for the ball, and I was just
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trying to just rip it away and grab it. And
even even after everything we both hit the ground, I
still went to grab him just to confirm, but just
just went after the ball just like it was mine.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Robert Woods joining us. It looks like it was a
game where you talked about it not being able to
score at certain moments earlier. But when you guys got
that go ahead score at the end of the game,
you needed a drive and you got the drive. What
does that say about the offense? And looking forward from there.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This offense is gonna battle and we're gonna be able
to just do what we need to do and execute
the win. I know we were we were down, but
we still were able to run the ball very well
and get down there at the same time, opened up
a little bit of a passing game and really just
executed and played well together. That last drive and kind
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of that last touchdown was I feel like a huge
key just of players playing together and playing well in
that huddle CJ and and a lot of the guys
being able to communicate and kind of anticipate what the
defense was going to do. And uh, and it just
happened to play out like that. And and that was
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when we were really excited as an offense because we
kind of studied, we we spoke about it and happened
and it was just like we told talked about it,
and everybody was able to share that moment as a
team and working together what we thought was to steal
it off, but uh, it's it just shows that this
team is going to play together, battle throughout through a
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whole game, and this team is going to be a problem.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
As a receiver, I would imagine you can get helmet
stickers for a lot of things. I wish they gave
helmet stickers again. That'd be cool to get those helmet stickers.
Do you get helmet stickers for pancakes? Because you got
I think you got one. I would you would have
got one for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, what is it? Robert and I go back.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
I listened to a podcast this offseason by Jordan Rodrigg
from The Athletic and it was called The play Callers,
and they were talking about mcveigh's offense when he first
got to the Rams and said, one of the things
that really changed his offense was you and Cooper Cup
and how you guys attacked run blocking. A lot of
receivers are like, man, you know, I'm just gonna go
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out there and put a hand on somebody. You all
turned to literally pancake somebody like you did yesterday. Where
does that? Where does that come from? And how much
kind of studying do you do from the run game
standpoint as opposed to the past game standpoint?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
First off, I think it's uh. Me and Cooper. Our
thing was like, we didn't want to come off the field.
We wanted to stay on the field as much as
we can. And kind of we we we we were
saying we wanted to be able to run the ball
in eleven personnel. We didn't need to have the extra
tight end right there because we can handle a d
n or a linebacker, and uh, with that that allowed
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more of a passing threat as well. But I feel
like it's, uh, it's just it's just want to You
could see it in the defender's eyes sometime they if
they're want to turn it down or not turn it down,
but just will want to want to block from our
teammate and get them in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And I know it's it's fun.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's fun getting a guy knocking them down, throwing them
around and expect actually, when you look back and nine
other teammates are doing the same thing, it's pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Robert Woods joining us on Texans Radio. Tank Dell left
the game late in the first half. Made a big
catch to help you get into field goal range. What
was it like being out there without Tank? How did
that affect things? And what about the kind of job
he's doing overall so far. I know he's in the
protocol right now or whatever, but we want to want
him back as soon as possible. What has he done
so far in your eyes to progress as a.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Rookie, been a key contributor for this offense and in
this team, being able to make plays on on a
punt return and on the offensive side, especially early on
this year, makes some key plays. But I feel like
these these past games, he hasn't had the big the
big games, but he had very critical plays and critical
moments to help this team and his offense continue our drives.
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And for a rookie to be reliable, it's super huge
to be to have him out there. It's key for
our offense to be able to get this thing going.
We were without them the whole second half match. Played well,
stepped up and Xavier did as well a little bit
in the second quarter and in the third. But just
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just asking our guys to to make plays. Like I
always say, it shouldn't be a drop off. We never
want to have a drop off if guys get injured
or miss a few plays. We want to have that
same level of standard at the receiver position.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Robert.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
A play that will get lost a little bit because
of the throw that CJ made to Dalton for the touchdown,
But was your crossing route a few plays before that
that got the first down? Can you take us through
what happened on that play and got your free to
make that big catch for the first down.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, we were trying to get access with the motion
which is just get a little not allowed press corner.
So we end up motion myself to the other side
and uh aj throw actually came and was flying down
to press it, and it's just like, all right, he's
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gonna give us like the hardest, the hardest look possible.
He's like making sure he trying to press me up
in front, me up. And I feel like it was
just a great call in a man situation, being able
to call it, being able to get a good release
and just run away from him. At that time, UH
found CJ rolling out the pocket, had some space and
be able to keep our drive going. I felt like
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to build a little bit momentum to for our for
our offense and uh from then just just finding Dalton
in the back of the.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Zone because earlier on the play that you knocked down
Bates was there when you ran as Yeah, but did
you know because of the feeling you had of Terrell,
do you knew was man that you knew nobody was
gonna be over there?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Knew?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I knew it was a man.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I felt like actually on the crosser it might have
been man as well, and he just ended up cutting it.
But two different depths of routes, Like I said, being
able to not be in a second and long or
third and long. We don't have to be I have
to run as far, but just being able to get
a low intermediate route, not having to mess with baits
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back there, and just being able to run away from maj.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Robert Woods with us. Robert. This is a young team.
You've been around a while, though, So what can these
young guys learn about this league right now? Coming off
a loss, shaking it off, getting ready for the next one,
or shake it off a win even like last week.
Just to get ready week to week and be at
your best at noon on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, I feel like I don't know how everybody can
hear this there. I've got to spread this to the team.
But just it's the NFL. I mean, everybody is good.
Every team is good. Every team is locked in throughout
the week and preparing just as we are and having
the same prep.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Talk from their coach the night before.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
The difference is is the consistency the teams who show
up weekend and week out, who have the same mindset
of last week didn't matter, the last play didn't matter.
This play and my assignment it is the most important
thing in the world right now to get done. To
have that mindset every single play in every single game,
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every single practice. I feel like, uh is kind of
what we need. I feel like for this young this
young team, it's just like, yeah, we're we're a good team,
but we're I feel like we haven't been consistent. We've shown,
uh the first two weeks, Okay, there they have flashes,
but we didn't win. And then we won the next
two and it's like, Okay, this team's actually good.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They could do something. In this past week.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We had some spurts on offense and some spurts on defense,
and then we look good closing the game.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But it's like, it's the consistency.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know, we have to play throughout the whole game,
consistent brand of football, and uh, that's how we be
able to make it to the playoffs and these these
extra games is being consistent football team every single day.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Robert, this is a team you face on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I don't know if you remember this, but there was
a controversial game that your team wants played it against
them in championship.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, I'm sure you don't. But it's also a team
that's been together for a while.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
So at some point you face this Saint squad, you know,
with a lot of more back there, and you know
the Honey Badgers back there with Tying. I know you
haven't gone too far into the Saints, but there are
some guys that are on that squad that you guys
have faced before.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
And you've probably faced the Saints before, have you not?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, this is also uh because of that game. I say,
my favorite place to play. The atmosphere is amazing, but
their their players there. They I think their players feed
off of their their New Orleans energy, the crowd they
come in there, They're hungry there. They have an attitude
when they play, and their offense is is high power,
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want to score. He got Chris on the outside. I
haven't seen if Mike Thomas is back in action, but
you know he's back this year and Kamara has been
doing this thing. So it's like, you know, this offense
has been together, been doing the same thing, being able
to keep drives and get high points. And then their
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defense playing consistent football. Seet Honey Badger would a was
it fumble or interception return, still making plays at a
high level. So he's their leader and I feel like
in Latimore on the outside, I feel like their key
guys have been holding his team together and always been
the team to reckon with. And it's gonna be a
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dogfight this Sunday coming into Houston.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
All right, Robert, thanks a lot for joining us, Good
luck this week.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Thank you appreciating.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Here's Johnny and I visiting with Robert Woods. Now let's
get into it with Robert Brazil, who was here on
Monday as he talked about the Taxak Texas Bowl Gridiron
Legends class. Let's listen in and Robert Brazil, known as
Doctor Dude.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Brazil, is two hundred and forty pounds of pure football player.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Brazil's calling card is his quickment.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
More often than not.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He is as swift as an East player on the field.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
He's the sort of player who's not satisfied merely with
doing his best.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
He wants to be the best and he probably.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Hit Joining us now in the Hyundai Texans radio studio,
it's Robert Brazil, Texas.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Gridiron legend just announced. How's it going, duing great man.
It's always a pleasure to be back in Houston. This
is where I got my start at. This is the
only home that I lived here for years during my
professional career, and to be back for the Texan Legends
and honor to see another class go in.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
You know, this Bruce.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Matthews guy's always followed me, following him. This guy played
nineteen years man. And the thing about he broke my record.
He didn't miss a game and I didn't miss a game.
Oh yeah, that's rue, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
But I thought about that yesterday because we were in
Atlanta and they announced at some point that Bruce's son Jake,
has played one hundred fifty straight games or something like
that on.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Top of what Bruce did. So how many did you
play in a row ten years?
Speaker 8 (13:56):
I think it was one hundred and seventy five seventy
six never missed a snap.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Now, you could have gone on longer, right, yes.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
But you know I made the idea that I need
to retire so long stay. We won't get into that, okay,
another part of me that I think you used to
want to hear it today.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Okay, So how long did it take Robert to don't
get in that story?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But how long did it take for the desire to
want to continue to play?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Kind of leave at some point because.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Guys retired, They're like, man, I think I could still play,
thinking still play?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
How long did it take for it to be?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Like?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
You know what, I'm good. My career was great.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
I'm all set for me. It happened at the Hall
of Fame game. You know, I was in my eleven
year and I had never missed a game, started every
game for the Houston Allars, and two hours before the game,
I get a.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Can can you?
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Houston walks to me, tell me the head coach wants
to talk to me, and I say, WHOA, what's going
on in my head? They never mentioned it? So I
go to him and he told me that he's going
to to start the younger guys. And I looked at
it as you came when I said, as a red now,
Robert Brazil is going to retire, right, So that was
my ending of it, and I had to make a
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decision for me. You know, I had lost his wife
and everything during that time, and so I think I
made the right decision for me. But it took too
long for me to get into Pro Football Hall of Fame.
I got scared ter.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Waiting, but you got in. But your resume was great enough.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
To get it I had, you know, But the thing
about it, I always wanted to play against Lawrence Taylor
and he was also in that same game, and men
him had talked before that game. I said, Lawrence, I
think it's time for us to show who's going to
be the better.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Line back and for And so I never got my shot.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, oh that would have been so nice.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Week. We're still friends and you are.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That's good and you look back and sacks were not
an official statistic till what eighty two, right, So that
didn't help you either as far as although you made
all those probe all pros, you're in the Hall of Fame,
so I guess it didn't really hurt. But that must
have been kind of strange when oh, now you're tell me.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
That now count my sex. I said, let's go back
there and you pull little films up. So Lawrence, uh,
you know, he always he was. I was this idol
to the point that he wanted to meet me. We
both had the same agent, Jared Augavich and Genie Brown
during that time, and he would not sign until I
went to his college to sit down for him to
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bust my brains for three hours about football. And we
sit there and laugh and talk, and he took rober
brazil game to another level. Honestly, you know, they couldn't
say about a lot of junk yard dog, but he
was really a junk yard dog when it came to
flaying outside football.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, he definitely was.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
So Robert, I want to go to the moment that
you find out that you've made the Hall of Fame,
when you get that call, you get that knock.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
What was that like?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
You got to think about it took twenty nine years.
Every other year we're getting I get you, You're in
the final in the this.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
But when they called me, I cried. I mean, you know,
because I wanted this so much. We had been through
so much that year. My dad had been diagnosed for cancer,
and I'm saying, what I'm gonna do. I don't have
bomb to present me. I don't have none of my
coaches here that really paid a big, a big part
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of me. So I took it to I mean, it
just overwhelmed me. But we validated everything that I had
waited so long for. And to not to show some emotion,
I don't think I couldn't feel like I feel today
behind it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Robert Brazil joining us on Texans Radio, Texas gridiron legend
in the current class, the new class, along with Bruce
Matthews and others. Robert I wanted to go here because
indulge me tougher to tackle. I want to do this. Okay,
all right, So OJ Simpson or Frank o'harris or Walter Payton.
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You probably didn't have too many meetups with Walter because
he's in the NFC.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Four years of practice against him every day, every day,
every day, and had to sleep in the same room college.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I know how to take Walter anybody in this world.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's true. But as a pro, how many times did
you guys see each other?
Speaker 8 (18:15):
I gave him third of one. I don't know the
exact number, but they came here and we played Houston
and I had instead of Walter, and I knew Walter,
and I got my defense ready for Walter, and I
think he got close to Thady three. I said, I
ain't gonna let you get there before today. So somewhere
there he got crapers going for to break the record
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O Jay's record. I know he was gonna try to
get against me. You knew I was gonna not let
him happen, so he would not speak to him after
the game.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Really that competitive.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
That's that's how that's the competitive we had. My wife
had to take me by the hand and take me
up on the bus and say, speak to Walter, make
him feel better before he leaves leave Houston going back
to Chicago with that, that means that he's gonna get
you back somewhere or another.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
To Mars's question, o j or Franco tougher to tackle
neither one of the sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
All right, let's do quarterbacks. Let's do quarterbacks. How many
times did you see Tarkentin because he must have been
tough if you saw him.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
No, No, I didn't.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
We My hardest one with I would think would have
been Roger the Dodger. Yeah, yep, I did sandwich all right,
try Bradshaw, Yeah, ye, Ken Anderson, I can't tell you
how to tax him one time. Yeah, but uh.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
It was fun.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Man. It's very competitive. And still I think Ken and
is deserving to be in the Hall of Fame. And
it's not that yet.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Standing quarterbacks, no doubt for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yep, yeah, he was.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
When you start going through those names, Obviously Roger Starbach
was a different one because he's kind of like today's quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They're moving all over the place.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
But you were straight drop back passers back then, Robert
did you Was it more fun to go against those
guys because you knew exactly where they were gonna be
so you could sack them, or is it more of
a challenge to go find Roger Staubach chasing around over
the field and you finally you sack them after chasing them.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
I don't care who was that quarterback. I want them
to know in two and a half seconds. They need
to know where Robert was theil at I'm coming in right,
So I didn't care who it was. So it was
more fun for me to get off in my game
and more lessened to their game. I always was so
ready to show them what I had to bang to
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the table.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
We watched practice now, Robert, and you're really not bringing
people to the ground. You're not really tackling them at
training camp, and certainly not in regular season practice. It's
more of a wrap up or thud or whatever they
call it. But back in the day, you and Earl
going out it in practice. How was that facing Earl
Campbell when the Oilers practiced, and how physical would it get,
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especially in the early summer training camp times.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
How was that.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
When when Earth first got here? You know, I was
used to walk the first of all one twenty miles
hours every play we got here and I went and
hit ear bomb, blew his whistle and he said, Robert
called me in ear lover, I said, coach, wis Rohan?
He said, Robert, I said, what, Coach? He said, the
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Houston all us, it's not on our schedule. If you
heard ear who's.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Going to fay?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
I said, Cook, I'm gonna get keep his game together
and my game together. He said, Rober, I'm gonna say
this again, the Houston All, this is not on our schedule.
And he cut out the he cut it out.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Okay, wow, Robert.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I want to ask you, and I know this gets
brought up a lot about the Love Your Blue era,
what was this town like when you guys were in
that run, especially seventy eight seventy nine, when you're playing
a championship against Pittsburgh, games against Pittsburgh. The Monday Night
came against Miami, when I was really kind of the
Love your Blue era really kind of kicking off. What
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was that really like for a player during that time
to be here during that era?
Speaker 8 (22:12):
For me, it was to try to win every game
in an astronome And then when we went off to
win every game, we had finally won our of fans yea.
When I got here, it was nothing but Cowboy fans. Yeah,
And I couldn't understand that people was cheering for Dallas
and I'm saying, yo, you live here in Houston. I said,
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I know we can stop this. All we got to
do is start winning and we'll get our fans. And
when we got out of fans, man, let me tell
you something, I still get fan mail, telephone calls. I
can't ride around in Houston now without somebody saying, I remember,
they love you Blue. I went shopping with a couple
of guys a day. A guy said, that's Robert Brazil.
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And I am seventy one years old and somebody can
still recognized me. And when I'm walking with the gallery
is saying that's Brazil. That feeling and I'd still say this.
We owe them a championship, and the championship now gonna
have to come from the Texas because we're gone, you know.
I mean, it's no more used to all this here.
I mean, we're into Tennessee. We're at Tennessee Titans now
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and we've been adapted by the other. But these fans
here are so lord. So I'm gonna tell coach all
he gotta do is keep winning. And he got a
good team here. I've seen some great things with the Texans, y'all.
I mean that lick quarterback. I told Coach I had
a sign the bonus left.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I didn't mention anything about playing, just a signing, all right.
So John mcclan announcing the Texas grid Iron class. What
does John McClain mean to you and mean to guys
who have played in this town for a long time
and people have made it or not to the Hall
of Fame, But John McClain, because we have a lot
of people moving into the city and they discover who
John McLean is. Who is John maclan? Tell us what
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John McClain means to you.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
John mcclan, you know when we were all growing up,
y'all had but because some world book en psycopedias. Yeah,
I described John as the world book inside of the piece.
Now he's a great twitter. Yeah, So but two, because
there's other people. I think that's deserving man to go
into the Hall of Fame, and these young guys don't
know him, and you can't promote John McClean. So Robert
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Brazil to get to the Hall of Fame. He bought
me out of the wood work. He had some some
you know, put stuff in the in the cape that
he oh, he had just put me in the other bakery.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
But he's knowledgeable of the name the General. He's knowledgeable
of that name, and I owe him and I will
always join the only person in the media has probably
been invited to my house to sleep in my bed
without my wife.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Roberts you me.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You mentioned Kenny Anderson about going into the Hall of Fame.
Is there a player that you played against that you
feel like, you know what, I think that or played
with that you feel like that guy I think should
have gone into the Hall of Fame or should go
into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
That's the numerous, numerous of players. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
I think about the Elsie green Woods, Yeah, think about
the random Gratis. Yeah, I mean I think about the
Tom Jackson's, I think about Isaac Curtis, I think about
just in my conferences there for people that hadn't been
touched yet and the name hadn't been brought up. And
I know how they feel. I was damn man, I
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was down waiting with every stat that you had that
I had, and they had to become It's a hard
decision for the people that's trying to make that decision.
And when you don't have people like we said, John
McLean in these other cities, some of these guys gonna
go underwash and unheard. They won't get the opportunity to
be in the you know, ain't but three hundred and
(25:50):
seventy one and y'all sitting with the Hall of Famer
three twelve. Amazing, that's an honor.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well y for me, you're in and we're very glad
you're at Texas Gridiron Legend, thank you so much for
joining us, Robert.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Thank you, thank you all for having me. Anything I
can do for you you got to do is call
them baby.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
All right, I Man, I could talk with Robert Brazil
and get legend stories all day long.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
All right.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Mike Coss does the play by play for the New
Orleans Saints. What does he have to say about this
week's game and about his franchise and about the Patriots too.
Who the Saints just faced Mike, great to have you on.
Tell me first the Saints' performance against the Patriots. Was
that the Saints rounding and deform what they really can
be or was it a bad day for New England
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or a combination of things? How do you see it?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Yeah, I gotta believe it's it's the latter. I mean,
the Saints fight well and they dictated the game. They
dictated putting points on the board first, and then yes,
it did unravel for a struggling New England team, But
this is kind of the team that we went to
training camp thinking about and it's really the first time
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that we've I've seen it, but this is really the
first time, if you know, the first game back for
Alvin and Tampa again played since January of this year,
really played. So I feel like it's a combination of both.
But this is kind of the team that we thought
we would have. Now, you're not going to put thirty
four up each week, but you get that kind of
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defensive effort with just a solid offensive effort, and especially
in the red zone, that's the difference in the game.
You know, this is what we saw, what happened.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
All right, Mike, Let's go over some of the weapons
that the Saints have because I'm losing a little sleep
over this one. First of all, our buddy Derek Carr,
who was here as a little kid when the Texan
started out as David's little brother. And I've told many
stories on the air about playing catch with Derek after
practice when he was in sixth grade and seventh grade
and stuff like that. Great guy. What does he bring
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it to the table for the Saints offense?
Speaker 9 (27:55):
You know, he brings the most important thing, which is stability,
and through the shoulder injury. So you know, we knew
post Drew Brees would be difficult. So there was this
battle between Jamis and Tayso in the year one that
Jameis Wamba then gets hurt and then they played four
quarterbacks at twenty one twenty two. It was Jamis's job, loses,
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gets hurt and that's your backup Andy Dalton for fourteen games.
So that that was never none of that was ever
of the plan. And so he brings to building, you know,
even through that injury, and you know experience, and I
think it's only going to get better. He's he he
loves this offense. This offense thrives on a quarterback with
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experience who can make quick decisions, good decisions at the line,
and certainly he learned a lot of that from John Gruden.
That's what made Drew so special, the ability to pull
out of plays at the line. And I can pull
out of plays at the line, but can I pull
out of the plays and go into the right one.
That's the difference, and so he brings. I think we're
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just hopefully I say this, hopefully just beginning to see
some of the offensive progression that he brings because he's
just he hasn't played with these guys. This is, you know,
third game with Alvin coming up, and to have Alvin
and Mike and shit he no lave and hopefully get
some tight ends back back into this scene. So I
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hope it's just the next step in an evolution.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Mike hosts Voice of the Saints, joining us on Texans Radio. Mike,
other than Derek, who is the most important offensive player
for this team in your opinion right now and maybe
into the rest of the season, that's Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
The way off question, I mean, you know, against New England,
it'll never it won't show up in any numbers. It's
not gonna get stat Anybody talked about if the Saints
ran the ball on first down probably I don't know,
seventy five eighty percent of the time, and they weren't
cash runs, they weren't ten twelve, but they were five yards,
four yards, six yards, and that's something they've not been
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able to do. And when you do that and you're
second and four or second and five, now the swing
pass to Kendre Miller or the swing pass to Alvin
makes the biggest difference. So his ability to run the
ball between the tackles, not going wide, but between the
tackles and have positive yardage consistently. I mean, he's the difference.
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He's such a difference maker because you got to account
for him. And once you have to start accounting for Alvin,
now all of a sudden, well, who's accounting for Tayson,
Who's accounting for Mike Thomas, who's accounting for a lave?
It makes the whole team that much. But it begins well,
I mean it begins with Derek, but it begins in
my mind with Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Mike is the Pete Carmichael offense the Sean Payton offense
or has it changed at all. I know the personnel
adjusts a bit, especially when you get a different quarterback
in there, but tell me about that.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah, I think it's the foundation is the Sean Payton offense.
I mean, obviously, you know Pete Carmichael comes in with
Drew Brees and six. You know, without Drew Brees, there
is no Pete Carmichael here, and they work together with Sean.
He called plays at different times, but I do believe
the foundation of the offense is Sean. But Pete's at
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it now really since the back half of twenty one,
so I feel like you're going to start seeing more
of him. I don't know if it'll look any different,
because I believe the foundational points are there that it's
a you know, quick get the quarterback, short drop, quick release,
you know, to go from Drew and Derek. That's a
quarterback that's not escaping the pocket a whole bunch ken Ken,
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but doesn't want to take the hit. So I think
foundationally short passes, good running game and have the ability
to go deep is what they want to do. So yeah,
it's a it's a combination. But I think this past week, man,
it was rough in New Orleans. I mean, were you
thought the team was zero to ten. People were just
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pitch forks Rent and everybody's got to go. I'm like,
they're two and two. They've only had two starts better
than this since twenty thirteen. So it was just, you know,
it was tough, and I think he came out of it.
And you know, again it's one game. You got to
be able to sustain it. But it was a very
important game just for everyone's psyche.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Mike Host, Voice of the Saints, joining us. So tell
me on defense, we know about some of the big names.
We know about Jordan, we know about Tyron Matthew who
was here for a year in twenty eighteen for the
Houston Texans Lattimore. But give me a name or two
that just doesn't get the publicity that maybe deserves more notoriety.
On this Saints defense, which is fourth in the league.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
Carl Granderson is by far the tops. He doesn't you know,
he's not doesn't show up on anybody's pregame report. You
know we're talking about him, but when you do a
postgame report, yeah, he's the guy. And it's often in
plays where he doesn't we'll get credit. He's the guy
on Tyrant's picked six. It's Granderson's pressure that causes the
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throw right, and so you get kind of lost in that.
But he had I think a sack and a half,
three tackles, three tackles for a loss the quarterback hit.
He is the guy. And there are times when Carl
Granderson is out there and he's just he's unstoppable. He's unblockable.
And it's not every game, it's the consistency factor, but man,
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there are times he's just he's a beast. And then
you know, you can't say enough about to Mario Davis,
who again just does his job kind of quietly. They
run a lot of two linebackers set with he and
Pete Warner. But to me, Carl Granderson maybe a Malcolm
Roach and a to Mario Davis and Pete Warner are just, man,
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they're just beasts out there.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Mike, You've been in New Orleans a long time, so
you tell me, and you mentioned it last week, the
way people were feeling about the Saints early on in
the season. They blow out the Patriots, But is this
sort of an uneasy time in Saints' history because you
go through all that success with Sean Payton and Drew
Brees even before that has lit winning the playoff game
in two thousand, so you had fifteen twenty years of
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relative success after all those years of struggling. Is this
sort of an uneasy time as you try to re
establish for the future.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
You know, I think twenty two, twenty one, and twenty
two were kind of that time, and they weren't you know,
twenty one wasn't bad. The finished nine and eight and
really should have made the playoffs. So they've kind of
been in this tweener situation whereas Shawn leaves leaves a
pretty good football team, but you know, you've got no
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Drew Brees. Well, you know, guess what, look at New England.
You know, find any team that's had a Tom Brady
or Drew Brees that survives. Right, But the team was good,
so it was so good that you couldn't blow it
up in twenty one and twenty two or twenty three,
you're like, well, we're not, We're we're we have good play, well,
good defense, good offensive people in a lot of positions.
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Number one picks almost across the offensive line, so they've
they've they've since I don't know, twenty sixteen, they've been
in a win now mentality and they can't seem to
get out of it, right because it's a good football team.
So I think they've passed that kind of you know,
time post Drew. Now. I think it's about building something
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without probably having to tear it up because there they've
been enormously good in free agency, good in draft and
you know, Derek Carr, you know, even with his you know,
experience in age, I think is the right guy for
the job. So, you know, I feel like they're they're
beyond it. It's about it's about building right now with
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a team that's good, it's they're still on the win.
Whereas I think New England, I think New England's and
know we can to blow it up. We almost got
to blow it up. How do you not blow it up? Right?
You know? Because if mac Jones is your answer, then
you maybe you know you've got to blow it up.
And the Saints are just not like that. They just aren't.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I was gonna ask you about New England because the
whole league is fascinated with what they're going through because
of how successful they've been and where they are now,
and I think a lot of people are getting pleasure
out of that. But whatever the case may be, you
just watch them up close and personal. What do you
think they're going through? It's not just a quarterback perhaps,
or is it all about the quarterback? What is your
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opinion after doing the game with New Orleans at New England.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Well, they got they got a fan base much like
New Orleans. Obviously they're spoiled, rotten. They don't understan they
don't they don't understand what this world is like every
other team has lived for twenty years, and so they
are ready to pounce. They were quiet, you know, they
kind of wanted to give us a reason to get
in the game. But give us a reason to boo
and we'll be right there as well. And so it's
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tough now you lose Matthew Judon and Christian Gonzalez the
week before. I mean, those are your top two defenders period.
But offensively, it's it begins with Mac Jones. I mean
he's had he's had four pick sixes and a strip
fumble for he's responsible for five defensive touchdowns and I
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say he right, So he's he's done four pick sixes
in two and since in his career. That's how many
Tom Brady threw in his career at Jillette Stadium, dating
back to two thousand and two. So, and I think
the biggest concern they have going forward is Belichick. Right,
So Belichick's at two ninety nine. He wants to pass
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Don Shula at three twenty eight. That's the goal, so
to speak. Now, no, he's not said that publicly, but
and you're going in your head, all right, well, all,
no problem. Well, now think about it. He was started
the year at two ninety eight. That means he's got
a average ten wins a year for three years to tie. No,
I don't know that Craft's got that kind of you know,
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discipline to because he ain't winning ten games a year
for three years, so it's gonna take him six years. Yeah,
I don't know. So it's like it's a decision time
up there. That's what they're gonna do. But they are living.
We understand their world. You go post Tom Brady and
you go, well, wait, we didn't win thirty eight ten,
what are we doing here? We've been there, people. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Mike Hos Voice of the Saints joining us. A couple
more for you, Mike. The NFC South Texans are in
a four game stretch right now where they are playing
the NFC South teams just played Atlanta. You haven't seen
Atlanta yet this year, But what do you make of
the division? And I saw what happened with Tampa Bay
and the Saints. How good is Tampa Bay? They'll be
here at NRG Stadium a bit later on.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
You know, it's funny because we're we are in an
AFC four game stretch right now. You know, we go
New England, Houston, Jacksonville on a short week than Indianapolis,
so we are making our trips to the AFC as well.
Tampa is not as good as we made them. But
if you give Baker Mayfield time one, he gains confidence,
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which the same gave him too much, way too much time.
And then if you put pressure on him hard on
the outside and give him running lanes, he will beat you.
And quite frankly, the Saints were three in the in
the red zone. So those field goals turn into touchdowns,
that's twenty one points. That's a different ball game. But
they didn't and so but in New England they did
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turn into touchdowns and it was twenty one points the debts.
That is the difference in the game. So Tampa is
not as good as as probably we made them look.
Atlanta is troublesome as you say, as you can say
they can, they can do a lot of things. They
always somehow either find a way to win like they
did this past week, or they will somehow find a
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way unbelievably to lose. So they're going to be up
and down. Carolina is struggling. But you, I mean, I've
been enormously impressed with you guys, I mean doing what
you're doing with cjan one hundred and eighty six attempts,
no picks. I guess we'll find out today a little
bit more about Tank down in his situation. But you know,
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it's if this isn't this October is where things will
really kind of shape up. But the NFC South overall
clearly better than last year and clearly better than anybody
thought they would be this year. We'll see where things go.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well except for Carolina maybe, but I don't know what
people thought they were going to be. Like there oh
and five and you played them, the Saints did and
one twenty to seventeen. What'd you make of Bryce Young?
The Texans will be there soon enough after the bye.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
You know, he's he's kind of he. I think he's
a lot like c. J. Strown and they both are
playing that the game is not bigger than them. You
have a pick against us. He runs when he has to.
He doesn't run, uh, you know, because he wants to.
They're not a great team. Uh he got he lost
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a fumble that the Saints got. I mean the Saints
want to turnover battle had a couple of big plays,
but that was a that was a very close game.
I mean, they punted to us. We had to be
able to keep the ball for like four minutes in
order to win the game, or we had to give
it back to them. So they you know, I won't
say they're better than their zero and five, but I
believe that Bryce, you know, is about as expected. You know,
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I don't think you can you can look at their
losses because they've been beaten pretty badly except for our game,
and they've played tough teams. They played Detroit, so you
know they'll be it'll be interesting. They'll they can be
a handful, but if you can get on top of them. Man,
they they've kind of they when they have to get
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into a throw first mentality, that's that's not where they're
going to be successful. Just a right, let me look
at CJ. CJ, what do you throw for forty seven attempts?
Forty four attempts your first two games? And that's not
that's not what you want, right, But he throws thirty
attempts the next two games you win, big.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Still try to establish the ground game here, get it going,
and they stick with it even when it's not working
because it helps a lot of other things for them.
But it was tough in Atlanta. Tough, a little bit
more difficult people expect. Yeah, No, I think.
Speaker 9 (42:03):
Atlanta's I think Atlanta's are good for fucking just got better.
Just picked up wide receiver from the Rams. I mean
they're troublesome, all.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Right, Mike, thanks for the time, great stuff. We appreciate it,
and we'll see you Sunday. All right, Mark, thanks to
Mike Costs play by play man for the New Orleans Saints.
That's it for the Pod. Have a great day, Texans
Saints Sunday noon, Go Texan.
Hello Texans, Welcome to the podcast. Before we go anywhere,
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before Lawrence Taylor. In fact, he talks about Lawrence Taylor
(00:21):
in this visit as he ushers in the Texas Bowl
Gridiron Legends class for the Teak Texas Bowl, which is
December twenty seventh at NRG Stadium. Also Robert Woods, Johnny
and I caught up with him this week to talk
about what's going on with the team heading into the
New Orleans game, and Saints play by play man Mike
Hoss joins us as well. All right, let's get into
(00:43):
this with Robert Woods, first wide receiver for your Houston Texans.
As John Harris and I visited with him earlier in
the week. Thanks so much for joining us, Robert, thanks
having me. We appreciate you being here. I know it
was a tough loss against Atlanta. What were some of
the takeaways you had from the game. I know you
guys want to finish the drives and not settle for
field goals. Thanks to Kaimi for making them. But how
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did you see the game overall?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Just a little bit of what we were talking about.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I feel like our first two weeks about getting backed
up in the red zone and penalties. I feel like
we got down there a couple of times, and I
think those penalties are having bad first downs, losing with
negative yards and just kind of you know, puss the
drive at a disadvantage now with second and fifteen, second
and thirteen, and it's hard when playing against a good
(01:34):
defense and good team need to capitalize on all those
get the points when you can. And you see what
happened at the end, just giving them a chance to
come back with enough time, not enough points on the
offensive side, But we saw a team that played all
four quarters and battled, found a way to get turnovers
on defense, and just just got to finish out and
(01:57):
close it.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What was the last time, Robert you played defense back?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
You go back to.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
High school week, in college week, in college week, in
college week in college almost played a nickelback?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Really?
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (02:09):
Well you playing dB on that ball yesterday. I mean
you didn't get a past breakup for that one. But
when did you know, oh, this one's in trouble. I
might have to make a defensive back play on it
to throw that Baits almost picked off.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, this time, I can't just run across the middle,
feeling like it was for a good safety. Who'll be there?
Who Baits is feeling like he'll be able to make
a play. It was hanging in the air, but still
just attacked it like normal. Didn't realize until I went
for the ball and saw another set of hands. Yeah,
trying to go for the ball, and I was just
(02:42):
trying to just rip it away and grab it. And
even even after everything we both hit the ground, I
still went to grab him just to confirm, but just
just went after the ball just like it was mine.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Robert Woods joining us. It looks like it was a
game where you talked about it not being able to
score at certain moments earlier. But when you guys got
that go ahead score at the end of the game,
you needed a drive and you got the drive. What
does that say about the offense? And looking forward from there.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
This offense is gonna battle and we're gonna be able
to just do what we need to do and execute
the win. I know we were we were down, but
we still were able to run the ball very well
and get down there at the same time, opened up
a little bit of a passing game and really just
executed and played well together. That last drive and kind
(03:30):
of that last touchdown was I feel like a huge
key just of players playing together and playing well in
that huddle CJ and and a lot of the guys
being able to communicate and kind of anticipate what the
defense was going to do. And uh, and it just
happened to play out like that. And and that was
(03:51):
when we were really excited as an offense because we
kind of studied, we we spoke about it and happened
and it was just like we told talked about it,
and everybody was able to share that moment as a
team and working together what we thought was to steal
it off, but uh, it's it just shows that this
team is going to play together, battle throughout through a
(04:13):
whole game, and this team is going to be a problem.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
As a receiver, I would imagine you can get helmet
stickers for a lot of things. I wish they gave
helmet stickers again. That'd be cool to get those helmet stickers.
Do you get helmet stickers for pancakes? Because you got
I think you got one. I would you would have
got one for sure.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, what is it? Robert and I go back.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
I listened to a podcast this offseason by Jordan Rodrigg
from The Athletic and it was called The play Callers,
and they were talking about mcveigh's offense when he first
got to the Rams and said, one of the things
that really changed his offense was you and Cooper Cup
and how you guys attacked run blocking. A lot of
receivers are like, man, you know, I'm just gonna go
(04:58):
out there and put a hand on somebody. You all
turned to literally pancake somebody like you did yesterday. Where
does that? Where does that come from? And how much
kind of studying do you do from the run game
standpoint as opposed to the past game standpoint?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
First off, I think it's uh. Me and Cooper. Our
thing was like, we didn't want to come off the field.
We wanted to stay on the field as much as
we can. And kind of we we we we were
saying we wanted to be able to run the ball
in eleven personnel. We didn't need to have the extra
tight end right there because we can handle a d
n or a linebacker, and uh, with that that allowed
(05:35):
more of a passing threat as well. But I feel
like it's, uh, it's just it's just want to You
could see it in the defender's eyes sometime they if
they're want to turn it down or not turn it down,
but just will want to want to block from our
teammate and get them in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And I know it's it's fun.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's fun getting a guy knocking them down, throwing them
around and expect actually, when you look back and nine
other teammates are doing the same thing, it's pretty fun.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Robert Woods joining us on Texans Radio. Tank Dell left
the game late in the first half. Made a big
catch to help you get into field goal range. What
was it like being out there without Tank? How did
that affect things? And what about the kind of job
he's doing overall so far. I know he's in the
protocol right now or whatever, but we want to want
him back as soon as possible. What has he done
so far in your eyes to progress as a.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Rookie, been a key contributor for this offense and in
this team, being able to make plays on on a
punt return and on the offensive side, especially early on
this year, makes some key plays. But I feel like
these these past games, he hasn't had the big the
big games, but he had very critical plays and critical
moments to help this team and his offense continue our drives.
(06:53):
And for a rookie to be reliable, it's super huge
to be to have him out there. It's key for
our offense to be able to get this thing going.
We were without them the whole second half match. Played well,
stepped up and Xavier did as well a little bit
in the second quarter and in the third. But just
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just asking our guys to to make plays. Like I
always say, it shouldn't be a drop off. We never
want to have a drop off if guys get injured
or miss a few plays. We want to have that
same level of standard at the receiver position.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
Robert.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
A play that will get lost a little bit because
of the throw that CJ made to Dalton for the touchdown,
But was your crossing route a few plays before that
that got the first down? Can you take us through
what happened on that play and got your free to
make that big catch for the first down.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, we were trying to get access with the motion
which is just get a little not allowed press corner.
So we end up motion myself to the other side
and uh aj throw actually came and was flying down
to press it, and it's just like, all right, he's
(08:03):
gonna give us like the hardest, the hardest look possible.
He's like making sure he trying to press me up
in front, me up. And I feel like it was
just a great call in a man situation, being able
to call it, being able to get a good release
and just run away from him. At that time, UH
found CJ rolling out the pocket, had some space and
be able to keep our drive going. I felt like
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to build a little bit momentum to for our for
our offense and uh from then just just finding Dalton
in the back of the.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
Zone because earlier on the play that you knocked down
Bates was there when you ran as Yeah, but did
you know because of the feeling you had of Terrell,
do you knew was man that you knew nobody was
gonna be over there?
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Knew?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, I knew it was a man.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
I felt like actually on the crosser it might have
been man as well, and he just ended up cutting it.
But two different depths of routes, Like I said, being
able to not be in a second and long or
third and long. We don't have to be I have
to run as far, but just being able to get
a low intermediate route, not having to mess with baits
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back there, and just being able to run away from maj.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Robert Woods with us. Robert. This is a young team.
You've been around a while, though, So what can these
young guys learn about this league right now? Coming off
a loss, shaking it off, getting ready for the next one,
or shake it off a win even like last week.
Just to get ready week to week and be at
your best at noon on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yeah, I feel like I don't know how everybody can
hear this there. I've got to spread this to the team.
But just it's the NFL. I mean, everybody is good.
Every team is good. Every team is locked in throughout
the week and preparing just as we are and having
the same prep.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Talk from their coach the night before.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
The difference is is the consistency the teams who show
up weekend and week out, who have the same mindset
of last week didn't matter, the last play didn't matter.
This play and my assignment it is the most important
thing in the world right now to get done. To
have that mindset every single play in every single game,
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every single practice. I feel like, uh is kind of
what we need. I feel like for this young this
young team, it's just like, yeah, we're we're a good team,
but we're I feel like we haven't been consistent. We've shown,
uh the first two weeks, Okay, there they have flashes,
but we didn't win. And then we won the next
two and it's like, Okay, this team's actually good.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
They could do something. In this past week.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
We had some spurts on offense and some spurts on defense,
and then we look good closing the game.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
But it's like, it's the consistency.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
You know, we have to play throughout the whole game,
consistent brand of football, and uh, that's how we be
able to make it to the playoffs and these these
extra games is being consistent football team every single day.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Robert, this is a team you face on Sunday.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Now.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
I don't know if you remember this, but there was
a controversial game that your team wants played it against
them in championship.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, I'm sure you don't. But it's also a team
that's been together for a while.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
So at some point you face this Saint squad, you know,
with a lot of more back there, and you know
the Honey Badgers back there with Tying. I know you
haven't gone too far into the Saints, but there are
some guys that are on that squad that you guys
have faced before.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
And you've probably faced the Saints before, have you not?
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, this is also uh because of that game. I say,
my favorite place to play. The atmosphere is amazing, but
their their players there. They I think their players feed
off of their their New Orleans energy, the crowd they
come in there, They're hungry there. They have an attitude
when they play, and their offense is is high power,
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want to score. He got Chris on the outside. I
haven't seen if Mike Thomas is back in action, but
you know he's back this year and Kamara has been
doing this thing. So it's like, you know, this offense
has been together, been doing the same thing, being able
to keep drives and get high points. And then their
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defense playing consistent football. Seet Honey Badger would a was
it fumble or interception return, still making plays at a
high level. So he's their leader and I feel like
in Latimore on the outside, I feel like their key
guys have been holding his team together and always been
the team to reckon with. And it's gonna be a
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dogfight this Sunday coming into Houston.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
All right, Robert, thanks a lot for joining us, Good
luck this week.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Thank you appreciating.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Here's Johnny and I visiting with Robert Woods. Now let's
get into it with Robert Brazil, who was here on
Monday as he talked about the Taxak Texas Bowl Gridiron
Legends class. Let's listen in and Robert Brazil, known as
Doctor Dude.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Brazil, is two hundred and forty pounds of pure football player.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Brazil's calling card is his quickment.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
More often than not.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He is as swift as an East player on the field.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
He's the sort of player who's not satisfied merely with
doing his best.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
He wants to be the best and he probably.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Hit Joining us now in the Hyundai Texans radio studio,
it's Robert Brazil, Texas.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Gridiron legend just announced. How's it going, duing great man.
It's always a pleasure to be back in Houston. This
is where I got my start at. This is the
only home that I lived here for years during my
professional career, and to be back for the Texan Legends
and honor to see another class go in.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
You know, this Bruce.
Speaker 8 (13:28):
Matthews guy's always followed me, following him. This guy played
nineteen years man. And the thing about he broke my record.
He didn't miss a game and I didn't miss a game.
Oh yeah, that's rue, you know.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
But I thought about that yesterday because we were in
Atlanta and they announced at some point that Bruce's son Jake,
has played one hundred fifty straight games or something like
that on.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Top of what Bruce did. So how many did you
play in a row ten years?
Speaker 8 (13:56):
I think it was one hundred and seventy five seventy
six never missed a snap.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Now, you could have gone on longer, right, yes.
Speaker 8 (14:06):
But you know I made the idea that I need
to retire so long stay. We won't get into that, okay,
another part of me that I think you used to
want to hear it today.
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Okay, So how long did it take Robert to don't
get in that story?
Speaker 6 (14:20):
But how long did it take for the desire to
want to continue to play?
Speaker 4 (14:25):
Kind of leave at some point because.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Guys retired, They're like, man, I think I could still play,
thinking still play?
Speaker 4 (14:30):
How long did it take for it to be?
Speaker 5 (14:31):
Like?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
You know what, I'm good. My career was great.
Speaker 8 (14:34):
I'm all set for me. It happened at the Hall
of Fame game. You know, I was in my eleven
year and I had never missed a game, started every
game for the Houston Allars, and two hours before the game,
I get a.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
Can can you?
Speaker 8 (14:50):
Houston walks to me, tell me the head coach wants
to talk to me, and I say, WHOA, what's going
on in my head? They never mentioned it? So I
go to him and he told me that he's going
to to start the younger guys. And I looked at
it as you came when I said, as a red now,
Robert Brazil is going to retire, right, So that was
my ending of it, and I had to make a
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decision for me. You know, I had lost his wife
and everything during that time, and so I think I
made the right decision for me. But it took too
long for me to get into Pro Football Hall of Fame.
I got scared ter.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Waiting, but you got in. But your resume was great enough.
Speaker 8 (15:26):
To get it I had, you know, But the thing
about it, I always wanted to play against Lawrence Taylor
and he was also in that same game, and men
him had talked before that game. I said, Lawrence, I
think it's time for us to show who's going to
be the better.
Speaker 5 (15:40):
Line back and for And so I never got my shot.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, oh that would have been so nice.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Week. We're still friends and you are.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
That's good and you look back and sacks were not
an official statistic till what eighty two, right, So that
didn't help you either as far as although you made
all those probe all pros, you're in the Hall of Fame,
so I guess it didn't really hurt. But that must
have been kind of strange when oh, now you're tell me.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
That now count my sex. I said, let's go back
there and you pull little films up. So Lawrence, uh,
you know, he always he was. I was this idol
to the point that he wanted to meet me. We
both had the same agent, Jared Augavich and Genie Brown
during that time, and he would not sign until I
went to his college to sit down for him to
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bust my brains for three hours about football. And we
sit there and laugh and talk, and he took rober
brazil game to another level. Honestly, you know, they couldn't
say about a lot of junk yard dog, but he
was really a junk yard dog when it came to
flaying outside football.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Yeah, he definitely was.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
So Robert, I want to go to the moment that
you find out that you've made the Hall of Fame,
when you get that call, you get that knock.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
What was that like?
Speaker 8 (16:49):
You got to think about it took twenty nine years.
Every other year we're getting I get you, You're in
the final in the this.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
But when they called me, I cried. I mean, you know,
because I wanted this so much. We had been through
so much that year. My dad had been diagnosed for cancer,
and I'm saying, what I'm gonna do. I don't have
bomb to present me. I don't have none of my
coaches here that really paid a big, a big part
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of me. So I took it to I mean, it
just overwhelmed me. But we validated everything that I had
waited so long for. And to not to show some emotion,
I don't think I couldn't feel like I feel today
behind it.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Robert Brazil joining us on Texans Radio, Texas gridiron legend
in the current class, the new class, along with Bruce
Matthews and others. Robert I wanted to go here because
indulge me tougher to tackle. I want to do this. Okay,
all right, So OJ Simpson or Frank o'harris or Walter Payton.
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You probably didn't have too many meetups with Walter because
he's in the NFC.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
Four years of practice against him every day, every day,
every day, and had to sleep in the same room college.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I know how to take Walter anybody in this world.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's true. But as a pro, how many times did
you guys see each other?
Speaker 8 (18:15):
I gave him third of one. I don't know the
exact number, but they came here and we played Houston
and I had instead of Walter, and I knew Walter,
and I got my defense ready for Walter, and I
think he got close to Thady three. I said, I
ain't gonna let you get there before today. So somewhere
there he got crapers going for to break the record
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O Jay's record. I know he was gonna try to
get against me. You knew I was gonna not let
him happen, so he would not speak to him after
the game.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Really that competitive.
Speaker 8 (18:47):
That's that's how that's the competitive we had. My wife
had to take me by the hand and take me
up on the bus and say, speak to Walter, make
him feel better before he leaves leave Houston going back
to Chicago with that, that means that he's gonna get
you back somewhere or another.
Speaker 5 (19:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
To Mars's question, o j or Franco tougher to tackle
neither one of the sandwiches.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
All right, let's do quarterbacks. Let's do quarterbacks. How many
times did you see Tarkentin because he must have been
tough if you saw him.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
No, No, I didn't.
Speaker 8 (19:20):
We My hardest one with I would think would have
been Roger the Dodger. Yeah, yep, I did sandwich all right,
try Bradshaw, Yeah, ye, Ken Anderson, I can't tell you
how to tax him one time. Yeah, but uh.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
It was fun.
Speaker 8 (19:43):
Man. It's very competitive. And still I think Ken and
is deserving to be in the Hall of Fame. And
it's not that yet.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Standing quarterbacks, no doubt for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yep, yeah, he was.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
When you start going through those names, Obviously Roger Starbach
was a different one because he's kind of like today's quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
They're moving all over the place.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
But you were straight drop back passers back then, Robert
did you Was it more fun to go against those
guys because you knew exactly where they were gonna be
so you could sack them, or is it more of
a challenge to go find Roger Staubach chasing around over
the field and you finally you sack them after chasing them.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
A little bit.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
I don't care who was that quarterback. I want them
to know in two and a half seconds. They need
to know where Robert was theil at I'm coming in right,
So I didn't care who it was. So it was
more fun for me to get off in my game
and more lessened to their game. I always was so
ready to show them what I had to bang to
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the table.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
We watched practice now, Robert, and you're really not bringing
people to the ground. You're not really tackling them at
training camp, and certainly not in regular season practice. It's
more of a wrap up or thud or whatever they
call it. But back in the day, you and Earl
going out it in practice. How was that facing Earl
Campbell when the Oilers practiced, and how physical would it get,
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especially in the early summer training camp times.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
How was that.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
When when Earth first got here? You know, I was
used to walk the first of all one twenty miles
hours every play we got here and I went and
hit ear bomb, blew his whistle and he said, Robert
called me in ear lover, I said, coach, wis Rohan?
He said, Robert, I said, what, Coach? He said, the
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Houston all us, it's not on our schedule. If you
heard ear who's.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Going to fay?
Speaker 8 (21:35):
I said, Cook, I'm gonna get keep his game together
and my game together. He said, Rober, I'm gonna say
this again, the Houston All, this is not on our schedule.
And he cut out the he cut it out.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Okay, wow, Robert.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
I want to ask you, and I know this gets
brought up a lot about the Love Your Blue era,
what was this town like when you guys were in
that run, especially seventy eight seventy nine, when you're playing
a championship against Pittsburgh, games against Pittsburgh. The Monday Night
came against Miami, when I was really kind of the
Love your Blue era really kind of kicking off. What
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was that really like for a player during that time
to be here during that era?
Speaker 8 (22:12):
For me, it was to try to win every game
in an astronome And then when we went off to
win every game, we had finally won our of fans yea.
When I got here, it was nothing but Cowboy fans. Yeah,
And I couldn't understand that people was cheering for Dallas
and I'm saying, yo, you live here in Houston. I said,
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I know we can stop this. All we got to
do is start winning and we'll get our fans. And
when we got out of fans, man, let me tell
you something, I still get fan mail, telephone calls. I
can't ride around in Houston now without somebody saying, I remember,
they love you Blue. I went shopping with a couple
of guys a day. A guy said, that's Robert Brazil.
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And I am seventy one years old and somebody can
still recognized me. And when I'm walking with the gallery
is saying that's Brazil. That feeling and I'd still say this.
We owe them a championship, and the championship now gonna
have to come from the Texas because we're gone, you know.
I mean, it's no more used to all this here.
I mean, we're into Tennessee. We're at Tennessee Titans now
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and we've been adapted by the other. But these fans
here are so lord. So I'm gonna tell coach all
he gotta do is keep winning. And he got a
good team here. I've seen some great things with the Texans, y'all.
I mean that lick quarterback. I told Coach I had
a sign the bonus left.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I didn't mention anything about playing, just a signing, all right.
So John mcclan announcing the Texas grid Iron class. What
does John McClain mean to you and mean to guys
who have played in this town for a long time
and people have made it or not to the Hall
of Fame, But John McClain, because we have a lot
of people moving into the city and they discover who
John McLean is. Who is John maclan? Tell us what
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John McClain means to you.
Speaker 8 (23:57):
John mcclan, you know when we were all growing up,
y'all had but because some world book en psycopedias. Yeah,
I described John as the world book inside of the piece.
Now he's a great twitter. Yeah, So but two, because
there's other people. I think that's deserving man to go
into the Hall of Fame, and these young guys don't
know him, and you can't promote John McClean. So Robert
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Brazil to get to the Hall of Fame. He bought
me out of the wood work. He had some some
you know, put stuff in the in the cape that
he oh, he had just put me in the other bakery.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:32):
But he's knowledgeable of the name the General. He's knowledgeable
of that name, and I owe him and I will
always join the only person in the media has probably
been invited to my house to sleep in my bed
without my wife.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Roberts you me.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
You mentioned Kenny Anderson about going into the Hall of Fame.
Is there a player that you played against that you
feel like, you know what, I think that or played
with that you feel like that guy I think should
have gone into the Hall of Fame or should go
into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
That's the numerous, numerous of players. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:07):
I think about the Elsie green Woods, Yeah, think about
the random Gratis. Yeah, I mean I think about the
Tom Jackson's, I think about Isaac Curtis, I think about
just in my conferences there for people that hadn't been
touched yet and the name hadn't been brought up. And
I know how they feel. I was damn man, I
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was down waiting with every stat that you had that
I had, and they had to become It's a hard
decision for the people that's trying to make that decision.
And when you don't have people like we said, John
McLean in these other cities, some of these guys gonna
go underwash and unheard. They won't get the opportunity to
be in the you know, ain't but three hundred and
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seventy one and y'all sitting with the Hall of Famer
three twelve. Amazing, that's an honor.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Well y for me, you're in and we're very glad
you're at Texas Gridiron Legend, thank you so much for
joining us, Robert.
Speaker 8 (26:02):
Thank you, thank you all for having me. Anything I
can do for you you got to do is call
them baby.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
All right, I Man, I could talk with Robert Brazil
and get legend stories all day long.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
All right.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Mike Coss does the play by play for the New
Orleans Saints. What does he have to say about this
week's game and about his franchise and about the Patriots too.
Who the Saints just faced Mike, great to have you on.
Tell me first the Saints' performance against the Patriots. Was
that the Saints rounding and deform what they really can
be or was it a bad day for New England
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or a combination of things? How do you see it?
Speaker 9 (26:37):
Yeah, I gotta believe it's it's the latter. I mean,
the Saints fight well and they dictated the game. They
dictated putting points on the board first, and then yes,
it did unravel for a struggling New England team, But
this is kind of the team that we went to
training camp thinking about and it's really the first time
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that we've I've seen it, but this is really the
first time, if you know, the first game back for
Alvin and Tampa again played since January of this year,
really played. So I feel like it's a combination of both.
But this is kind of the team that we thought
we would have. Now, you're not going to put thirty
four up each week, but you get that kind of
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defensive effort with just a solid offensive effort, and especially
in the red zone, that's the difference in the game.
You know, this is what we saw, what happened.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
All right, Mike, Let's go over some of the weapons
that the Saints have because I'm losing a little sleep
over this one. First of all, our buddy Derek Carr,
who was here as a little kid when the Texan
started out as David's little brother. And I've told many
stories on the air about playing catch with Derek after
practice when he was in sixth grade and seventh grade
and stuff like that. Great guy. What does he bring
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it to the table for the Saints offense?
Speaker 9 (27:55):
You know, he brings the most important thing, which is stability,
and through the shoulder injury. So you know, we knew
post Drew Brees would be difficult. So there was this
battle between Jamis and Tayso in the year one that
Jameis Wamba then gets hurt and then they played four
quarterbacks at twenty one twenty two. It was Jamis's job, loses,
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gets hurt and that's your backup Andy Dalton for fourteen games.
So that that was never none of that was ever
of the plan. And so he brings to building, you know,
even through that injury, and you know experience, and I
think it's only going to get better. He's he he
loves this offense. This offense thrives on a quarterback with
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experience who can make quick decisions, good decisions at the line,
and certainly he learned a lot of that from John Gruden.
That's what made Drew so special, the ability to pull
out of plays at the line. And I can pull
out of plays at the line, but can I pull
out of the plays and go into the right one.
That's the difference, and so he brings. I think we're
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just hopefully I say this, hopefully just beginning to see
some of the offensive progression that he brings because he's
just he hasn't played with these guys. This is, you know,
third game with Alvin coming up, and to have Alvin
and Mike and shit he no lave and hopefully get
some tight ends back back into this scene. So I
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hope it's just the next step in an evolution.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Mike hosts Voice of the Saints, joining us on Texans Radio. Mike,
other than Derek, who is the most important offensive player
for this team in your opinion right now and maybe
into the rest of the season, that's Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
The way off question, I mean, you know, against New England,
it'll never it won't show up in any numbers. It's
not gonna get stat Anybody talked about if the Saints
ran the ball on first down probably I don't know,
seventy five eighty percent of the time, and they weren't
cash runs, they weren't ten twelve, but they were five yards,
four yards, six yards, and that's something they've not been
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able to do. And when you do that and you're
second and four or second and five, now the swing
pass to Kendre Miller or the swing pass to Alvin
makes the biggest difference. So his ability to run the
ball between the tackles, not going wide, but between the
tackles and have positive yardage consistently. I mean, he's the difference.
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He's such a difference maker because you got to account
for him. And once you have to start accounting for Alvin,
now all of a sudden, well, who's accounting for Tayson,
Who's accounting for Mike Thomas, who's accounting for a lave?
It makes the whole team that much. But it begins well,
I mean it begins with Derek, but it begins in
my mind with Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Mike is the Pete Carmichael offense the Sean Payton offense
or has it changed at all. I know the personnel
adjusts a bit, especially when you get a different quarterback
in there, but tell me about that.
Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah, I think it's the foundation is the Sean Payton offense.
I mean, obviously, you know Pete Carmichael comes in with
Drew Brees and six. You know, without Drew Brees, there
is no Pete Carmichael here, and they work together with Sean.
He called plays at different times, but I do believe
the foundation of the offense is Sean. But Pete's at
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it now really since the back half of twenty one,
so I feel like you're going to start seeing more
of him. I don't know if it'll look any different,
because I believe the foundational points are there that it's
a you know, quick get the quarterback, short drop, quick release,
you know, to go from Drew and Derek. That's a
quarterback that's not escaping the pocket a whole bunch ken Ken,
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but doesn't want to take the hit. So I think
foundationally short passes, good running game and have the ability
to go deep is what they want to do. So yeah,
it's a it's a combination. But I think this past week, man,
it was rough in New Orleans. I mean, were you
thought the team was zero to ten. People were just
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pitch forks Rent and everybody's got to go. I'm like,
they're two and two. They've only had two starts better
than this since twenty thirteen. So it was just, you know,
it was tough, and I think he came out of it.
And you know, again it's one game. You got to
be able to sustain it. But it was a very
important game just for everyone's psyche.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Mike Host, Voice of the Saints, joining us. So tell
me on defense, we know about some of the big names.
We know about Jordan, we know about Tyron Matthew who
was here for a year in twenty eighteen for the
Houston Texans Lattimore. But give me a name or two
that just doesn't get the publicity that maybe deserves more notoriety.
On this Saints defense, which is fourth in the league.
Speaker 9 (32:42):
Carl Granderson is by far the tops. He doesn't you know,
he's not doesn't show up on anybody's pregame report. You
know we're talking about him, but when you do a
postgame report, yeah, he's the guy. And it's often in
plays where he doesn't we'll get credit. He's the guy
on Tyrant's picked six. It's Granderson's pressure that causes the
(33:05):
throw right, and so you get kind of lost in that.
But he had I think a sack and a half,
three tackles, three tackles for a loss the quarterback hit.
He is the guy. And there are times when Carl
Granderson is out there and he's just he's unstoppable. He's unblockable.
And it's not every game, it's the consistency factor, but man,
(33:27):
there are times he's just he's a beast. And then
you know, you can't say enough about to Mario Davis,
who again just does his job kind of quietly. They
run a lot of two linebackers set with he and
Pete Warner. But to me, Carl Granderson maybe a Malcolm
Roach and a to Mario Davis and Pete Warner are just, man,
(33:50):
they're just beasts out there.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Mike, You've been in New Orleans a long time, so
you tell me, and you mentioned it last week, the
way people were feeling about the Saints early on in
the season. They blow out the Patriots, But is this
sort of an uneasy time in Saints' history because you
go through all that success with Sean Payton and Drew
Brees even before that has lit winning the playoff game
in two thousand, so you had fifteen twenty years of
(34:14):
relative success after all those years of struggling. Is this
sort of an uneasy time as you try to re
establish for the future.
Speaker 9 (34:21):
You know, I think twenty two, twenty one, and twenty
two were kind of that time, and they weren't you know,
twenty one wasn't bad. The finished nine and eight and
really should have made the playoffs. So they've kind of
been in this tweener situation whereas Shawn leaves leaves a
pretty good football team, but you know, you've got no
(34:42):
Drew Brees. Well, you know, guess what, look at New England.
You know, find any team that's had a Tom Brady
or Drew Brees that survives. Right, But the team was good,
so it was so good that you couldn't blow it
up in twenty one and twenty two or twenty three,
you're like, well, we're not, We're we're we have good play, well,
good defense, good offensive people in a lot of positions.
(35:04):
Number one picks almost across the offensive line, so they've
they've they've since I don't know, twenty sixteen, they've been
in a win now mentality and they can't seem to
get out of it, right because it's a good football team.
So I think they've passed that kind of you know,
time post Drew. Now. I think it's about building something
(35:27):
without probably having to tear it up because there they've
been enormously good in free agency, good in draft and
you know, Derek Carr, you know, even with his you know,
experience in age, I think is the right guy for
the job. So, you know, I feel like they're they're
beyond it. It's about it's about building right now with
(35:47):
a team that's good, it's they're still on the win.
Whereas I think New England, I think New England's and
know we can to blow it up. We almost got
to blow it up. How do you not blow it up? Right?
You know? Because if mac Jones is your answer, then
you maybe you know you've got to blow it up.
And the Saints are just not like that. They just aren't.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I was gonna ask you about New England because the
whole league is fascinated with what they're going through because
of how successful they've been and where they are now,
and I think a lot of people are getting pleasure
out of that. But whatever the case may be, you
just watch them up close and personal. What do you
think they're going through? It's not just a quarterback perhaps,
or is it all about the quarterback? What is your
(36:26):
opinion after doing the game with New Orleans at New England.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
Well, they got they got a fan base much like
New Orleans. Obviously they're spoiled, rotten. They don't understan they
don't they don't understand what this world is like every
other team has lived for twenty years, and so they
are ready to pounce. They were quiet, you know, they
kind of wanted to give us a reason to get
in the game. But give us a reason to boo
and we'll be right there as well. And so it's
(36:51):
tough now you lose Matthew Judon and Christian Gonzalez the
week before. I mean, those are your top two defenders period.
But offensively, it's it begins with Mac Jones. I mean
he's had he's had four pick sixes and a strip
fumble for he's responsible for five defensive touchdowns and I
(37:11):
say he right, So he's he's done four pick sixes
in two and since in his career. That's how many
Tom Brady threw in his career at Jillette Stadium, dating
back to two thousand and two. So, and I think
the biggest concern they have going forward is Belichick. Right,
So Belichick's at two ninety nine. He wants to pass
(37:34):
Don Shula at three twenty eight. That's the goal, so
to speak. Now, no, he's not said that publicly, but
and you're going in your head, all right, well, all,
no problem. Well, now think about it. He was started
the year at two ninety eight. That means he's got
a average ten wins a year for three years to tie. No,
I don't know that Craft's got that kind of you know,
(37:55):
discipline to because he ain't winning ten games a year
for three years, so it's gonna take him six years. Yeah,
I don't know. So it's like it's a decision time
up there. That's what they're gonna do. But they are living.
We understand their world. You go post Tom Brady and
you go, well, wait, we didn't win thirty eight ten,
what are we doing here? We've been there, people. It's tough.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Mike Hos Voice of the Saints joining us. A couple
more for you, Mike. The NFC South Texans are in
a four game stretch right now where they are playing
the NFC South teams just played Atlanta. You haven't seen
Atlanta yet this year, But what do you make of
the division? And I saw what happened with Tampa Bay
and the Saints. How good is Tampa Bay? They'll be
here at NRG Stadium a bit later on.
Speaker 9 (38:38):
You know, it's funny because we're we are in an
AFC four game stretch right now. You know, we go
New England, Houston, Jacksonville on a short week than Indianapolis,
so we are making our trips to the AFC as well.
Tampa is not as good as we made them. But
if you give Baker Mayfield time one, he gains confidence,
(38:59):
which the same gave him too much, way too much time.
And then if you put pressure on him hard on
the outside and give him running lanes, he will beat you.
And quite frankly, the Saints were three in the in
the red zone. So those field goals turn into touchdowns,
that's twenty one points. That's a different ball game. But
they didn't and so but in New England they did
(39:20):
turn into touchdowns and it was twenty one points the debts.
That is the difference in the game. So Tampa is
not as good as as probably we made them look.
Atlanta is troublesome as you say, as you can say
they can, they can do a lot of things. They
always somehow either find a way to win like they
did this past week, or they will somehow find a
(39:40):
way unbelievably to lose. So they're going to be up
and down. Carolina is struggling. But you, I mean, I've
been enormously impressed with you guys, I mean doing what
you're doing with cjan one hundred and eighty six attempts,
no picks. I guess we'll find out today a little
bit more about Tank down in his situation. But you know,
(40:03):
it's if this isn't this October is where things will
really kind of shape up. But the NFC South overall
clearly better than last year and clearly better than anybody
thought they would be this year. We'll see where things go.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Well except for Carolina maybe, but I don't know what
people thought they were going to be. Like there oh
and five and you played them, the Saints did and
one twenty to seventeen. What'd you make of Bryce Young?
The Texans will be there soon enough after the bye.
Speaker 9 (40:30):
You know, he's he's kind of he. I think he's
a lot like c. J. Strown and they both are
playing that the game is not bigger than them. You
have a pick against us. He runs when he has to.
He doesn't run, uh, you know, because he wants to.
They're not a great team. Uh he got he lost
(40:50):
a fumble that the Saints got. I mean the Saints
want to turnover battle had a couple of big plays,
but that was a that was a very close game.
I mean, they punted to us. We had to be
able to keep the ball for like four minutes in
order to win the game, or we had to give
it back to them. So they you know, I won't
say they're better than their zero and five, but I
believe that Bryce, you know, is about as expected. You know,
(41:14):
I don't think you can you can look at their
losses because they've been beaten pretty badly except for our game,
and they've played tough teams. They played Detroit, so you
know they'll be it'll be interesting. They'll they can be
a handful, but if you can get on top of them. Man,
they they've kind of they when they have to get
(41:34):
into a throw first mentality, that's that's not where they're
going to be successful. Just a right, let me look
at CJ. CJ, what do you throw for forty seven attempts?
Forty four attempts your first two games? And that's not
that's not what you want, right, But he throws thirty
attempts the next two games you win, big.
Speaker 5 (41:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
Still try to establish the ground game here, get it going,
and they stick with it even when it's not working
because it helps a lot of other things for them.
But it was tough in Atlanta. Tough, a little bit
more difficult people expect. Yeah, No, I think.
Speaker 9 (42:03):
Atlanta's I think Atlanta's are good for fucking just got better.
Just picked up wide receiver from the Rams. I mean
they're troublesome, all.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Right, Mike, thanks for the time, great stuff. We appreciate it,
and we'll see you Sunday. All right, Mark, thanks to
Mike Costs play by play man for the New Orleans Saints.
That's it for the Pod. Have a great day, Texans
Saints Sunday noon, Go Texan.
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