David Rowlands Interview - Drummer of Phil Jones and The Unknown Blues

On this episode of Vinyl Vibes, Jack is joined by David Rowlands, drummer of Phil Jones and The Unknown Blues. Dave formed a band called the Firebirds with fellow high school friends during the first half of the ‘60s. The Pretty Things released their debut album in 1965, and on its track listing was a song called "Unknown Blues". One day, while browsing in a record store, Dave came across this album and saw the song name "Unknown Blues". He thought it would be a great band name and suggested it to the rest of the Firebirds. They all agreed on the name, and so in 1966, the band became known as The Unknown Blues. Over the next year or so, the band would delve deeper and deeper into the blues and begin developing their own versions of various blues standards.

The band came to the attention of Festival Records in 1967 and recorded their first single If I Had a Ticket. It would be a Top 20 hit in Sydney, bringing the group further gigs and TV appearances. Some have cited this record as the first blues hit for an Australian group, and today it remains a favorite amongst Oz rock fans.

By late 1967, psychedelic rock was overtaking the blues in popularity in the Sydney music scene. As a result, Phil Jones and The Unknown Blues tried to adjust to this new sound on their third single, Brave New World (Of Fairy Tales). Unlike their previous two singles, which consisted of traditional blues songs, Brave New World was self-penned by lead singer Phil Jones. The single also made use of more studio effects, such as the audio tape effect known as flanging. Despite the band's best efforts, they did not reclaim their stature in the Sydney scene, and Dave soon left the band in early 1968.

Phil Jones and The Unknown Blues would reform for the 2011 Bluesfest. The festival gave the band the chance to play alongside other acts on the bill, such as Bob Dylan, B.B. King, and Elvis Costello. The band performed its hit If I Had A Ticket, along with other songs Phil Jones recorded in the UK after the band's disbandment in 1968.

Today, Dave is still playing drums and is the organiser behind the Goulburn Blues Festival.

Jack phoned Dave to discuss his early days in music, the formation of The Firebirds, how the blues impacted him and the rest of the band, how The Pretty Things inspired the band to change their name to The Unknown Blues, how the band came to be signed to Festival Records, the recording of If I Had a Ticket, the success the band had in Sydney, how Jimmy Page came to meet the band, the band's third single Brave New World (Of Fairy Tales), and the group's re-formation in 2011.

"Two English guys turned up with long hair, and at the time we didn't know who they were. It turned out that the band The Yardbirds had done a performance at Sydney Stadium. Two band members wanted to find out where the young people hung out... and it was Jimmy Page... our guitarist invited Jimmy up to play, but he said 'look, I can't do that, I'm endorsed by Fender'." - Dave Rowlands on this episode of Vinyl Vibes Talking about Jimmy Page turning up at one of Phil Jones and The Unknown Blues' gigs

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