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July 23, 2025 • 12 mins

UNC's spotlight in team week continues as we focus on their defense in this edition.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the sound you've waited much to hear. It's caused
some of your greatest triumphs.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Soward he has touchdown, Carolina ahead, your biggest heartbreaks up.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
Ye Ja Javid go. It's the option at Georgia Tech.
It's Howard's rock, the smoke in Miami counsleep for the
intone and he got it.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
And every Saturday you tap that sign.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
The waits is over. College football is here? You all right?
Talking about the North Carolina defense.

Speaker 4 (00:45):
Last year they were tenth in total defense and tenth
and scoring defense. But they were one of the best
teams in the ACC at sacking the quarterback, and they
helped Virginia and Florida State. They set them down, held
them both under three hundred yards offense. Now that wasn't
saying much against Florida State because seemingly everybody did that
to them. But at the end of the day, that's

(01:07):
pretty much a rap because everybody that you could think
of from that defense, for the most part, is going
to be gone and it is going to be a
transfer heavy unit. You're talking about probably between eight to
ten guys that are going to be starting on this
defense that will be transferred new faces in a new place,
and so let's start the conversation off Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
We know that's what he's known for.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Got a Super Bowl championship as a defensive coordinator, put
together some of the best defensive game plans the NFL
has ever seen, shutting down the k Gun, shut down
the greatest show on turf. So this man knows defense,
and so can he bring that to the University of
North Carolina. How much do we feel like his presence
on this team is going to automatically improve the defense?

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Well, it's great that we're gonna be able to talk
to him tomorrow, yes, man, because I'm sure he's going
to be making the rounds and radio just like everybody
and following suit right because he's you know, say he
ain't talking. There's no way, there's no way, There's absolutely
no way I'm.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Gonna do it. I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
I don't believe you, Bill, I don't believe you whatsoever.
I don't think we're gonna be able to ask him
any questions like how much is he gonna take over
the defense compared to Jeff Collins being the defensive coordinator
over there? Is he going to be the play caller.
I guess if Jeff is going to do the play call.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I think it's going to be his son, Steven, But
I could be wrong.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I could be wrong. I guess Bill Belichick is gonna
be in charge of this. I just want to know
how the hierarchy works, because it's gonna be the system.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I can fill you in a little bit on what
that will look like. You do you want gonna do that? Okay?
All right?

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Well, I mean at the end of the day with
college coaching, would answer, But the way it works with
college coaching is, you know the head coach is going
to approve or veto anything in the game plan.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
So right, young Belichick's gonna come in there and say,
hey Dad, I don't know if he calls him Dad
at work, say hey Dad, this is what I got
installed for this week, and this is what I think
is going to be and then Bill a timpam all
this thing's.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Gonna work or no, it will work.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
So he's gonna have an imprint on his defense and
how it's gonna look.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
And then his son's going to be the one call
in the plays.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Now, I'm not sure a sideline if he'll be able
to shut down if he feels like a call is
not proper and he can say no, no, it's not
called that. But I think he's still going to have
a heavy imprint.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, if you were to ask, okay, so, if you
were to ask me how much of an imprint do
I think he has on the defense? I would say everything.
He's the head coach. This is what he's known for.
I think if you were to say Bill Belichick is
the best defensive coach of all time, I think you
would be well within your right of saying that. So
clearly his presence is immediately going to improve this defense,
I would imagine, no matter what. So while he's going
to sign off on everything, do you want him to

(03:41):
be the trigger puller? Because if it's gonna be somebody
else like his son or Jeff Collins or whoever else,
then is he going to dial up the wrong play
at the wrong time, to which I would feel much
more comfortable if it was Bill Belichick doing that sort
of thing. And that's where I would be like, Okay, Now,
he is a great defensive game planner. Maybe I'm making
this too complicated because it's not like he was that guy.

(04:02):
There was a DC with him in New England that
was calling different plays and I understand that. So perhaps
I'm just making too much of it. I just wonder
about the transition from the NFL to college football because
there are some differences and you're gonna be looking at
some different offenses. I trust his brain to figure it
all out.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Yeah, I think that his presence is going to help
this team out a lot, because we will get into
the minutia of the roster defensively in a moment, but
a lot of these guys are coming in and their experience.
You see a lot of senior juniors on this group
of guys that are slated as the starter today when
you look at the depth charts online and it's guys
that have played a good amount of college football.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
The thing that will be interesting.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
To me about Belichick and what he can do is
that the college game is all about pace in space,
and so that's not necessarily how the NFL game has been.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Now, some of those offenses that I.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Mentioned earlier were that he did stop the k Gun
that was all about pace in space. He did stop
the Greatest Show on Turf that was about pace in space.
And he's done at the offenses in the NFL throughout
the years. Football coaches. Man, he's just one of those
guys better take as a coaches.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Coaches coach.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Okay, he knows ball, he knows concepts, so he knows
what will stop certain concepts. I think he's going to
put his players in the right positions to make the plays.
Is going to come down to the players executing what's
say you found.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, I mean, I think he's definitely going to be
a guy that's going to have the players in the
right position. I would think he's gonna have them with
the right mindset going in, being a more physical team,
being a team that doesn't collapse mentally whenever you know,
someone starts to have a little bit of success against you.
That's been some of the issues that Carolina has had
the last few years is that they can't hold up

(05:41):
physically at the point of attack and whenever anything goes wrong.
Great example of it is go back to the Holiday
Bowl against Oregon where they were dominating defensively. They had
a great game plan going in the minute something goes wrong,
they just completely collapsed on the defensive side of the ball.
That was a theme on round. I don't think it's

(06:01):
gonna be a theme under this group, But it's gonna
be interesting. Gotta remember, this is only the second year
that Steven Belichick is gonna be calling plays defensively. Last
year was his first at Washington. It was pretty successful.
He took that unit that actually really wasn't that great
even though they made it to the National Championship Game,
and with all that they lost, made them a pretty
solid unit. But the thing is is we're gonna have

(06:24):
to see if he can do it here at Carolina
where defense has just been the downfall of this group
for so many years.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Yeah, and if we look at that as to why
that's been the case, I think there's a few factors
that play here. I think is one in how you practice.
We know what's been taken away as far as limitations,
But I think it's also, like I said, in how
you practice all your practices physical? Is that the mentality
of your program? Because if I look at what's been
missing from them, you look at the great Carolina defenses
of yesteryear. The hallmarks of those teams were the defensive line,

(06:56):
the Greg Ellisis, Ebenezer Ecubonds, and all the talented guys
that they had across those fronts, and they were rugged
and they came and they brought it.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Every single game.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Carolina has gotten recruits that have been highly talented, but
they have been struck me as the rugged type, those
types of guys.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
That you picture in the Rainy Game.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
Jersey is brown and they're just loving it and they're
just gonna continue to just maul their guy.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Because what was the kid Desmond.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I knew in high school when I watched him, was like.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Yeah, he felt more like a finesse end and the
stars will get you to said, oh way, he's a
five star, but he's a finesse in.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
You need that. Steven A.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Smith would say those rough riders, Okay, Like one of
the last great units that we've seen in the ACC
was that FSU group with Jared Versus and those boys.
They were rugged, they were coming to bring it. They
were gonna physically beat you down. That's what's been missing
with North Carolina because we've seen them have good linebackers
with power echoes and that crew, and yes, great, that's

(07:57):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
They've had the linebackers, but every thing starts.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Up front, and when you get that pass rush, then
the defensive backfield, it's gonna look all the better. And
so that's what I think has been missing. And they've
got some guys that they brought in from the transfer
port and I'll land my plane here, But Vincent at
Gilbert Smith is a guy that got from Yukon whick
they expect to be or excuse me, price Yates as

(08:21):
a guy that they really expect to be the ring
leader up front for them.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
You got CJ.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Mims, a big three hundred plus pounder in the middle
of that defense. DeAndre Robinson from the University of Florida.
He's rocking number six. He better be a ball of
wearing number six at the defensive tackle position, you hear me.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
So that's what they need right there.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
But other than that Komori House and some of those
other pickups they made, I think that's where we're gonna
feel the impact of this transfer class the most, and
we're gonna see if it really is.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Living up to the billing by how good this defense is.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Here's also what I'll say about Bill Belichick, because I've
been critical about his talent evaluation the latter years up
in New England. That was his downfall. In my opinion
not hitting on drafts despite him having control over the
personnel decisions, pulling the trigger on the drafts, elections and stuff.
One thing I'll say is I don't know how much
his ability to evaluate defensive lineman ever waned, because the

(09:10):
defensive lineman you would get some edge rushers that weren't
extremely highly touted that if they weren't amazing coming into
New England, they turned out to be pretty damn good traits.
Christian Barmore is one of those guys that I thought
was very good.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
I guess what Jude On he was there for a
while r I don't know. Bill Belichick allowed him to blossom,
and for me, it just felt like if everything else
waned around him, I don't think the ability to evaluate
defensive lineman did. And so while you might not have
all of the stars attached to some of these transfer
portal guys that you got or the recruits, it does
feel like if there's anybody that's going to be able

(09:43):
to mold them into something great, it's Bill Belichick among
the best defensive minds.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
And to your point, with his NFL defenses, as great
as they were, they weren't chocked full of first round picks.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
He had a couple, but a lot of his best players.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Were three to six round guys and and he really
would make the most because he really had the eye
to find the traits.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
And you know what is a great example of that.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Gerrod Mayo took over last year with largely the same
amount of guys and they were terrible. And with Bill
Belichick there, New England as a team was not very good.
But when Gerrod Mayo took over, largely supposed to be
a student, he didn't know how to push the right
buttons whatsoever. So I think there's another piece of evidence
that says, if there's one thing you can bank on
with maybe what you deem legitimate questions or not, you

(10:28):
can bank on Bill understanding defense wherever he goes. And
that's why just him being over there on the sideline,
if he doesn't comfort you, I don't know who will.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I mean, his schemes make too much sense.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Look at some of the masterful defensive game plans that
he's put together during his time, and the things that
he did to those teams made absolute sense. When he
played the Greatest Show on Turf, he said, we're going
to continue to hit them and be extremely physical with
them and at work. And so this is a guy
that not only on offense can he collaborate and come
up with a game plan week the week for what's needed.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
But defensively, he just knows.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
How to solve the equation find I'll let you end
it really quick. Is there anybody that you're looking forward
to seeing on defense from a star standpoint?

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, I mean Thaddeus Dixon at corner. I think is
gonna be great. Coming over from Washington was an All
Big Ten honorable mention, But I think this year set
up to be extremely successful at the cornerspot Andrew Simpson
transfer linebacker from Boise State, hoping to see more of
his twenty twenty three production rather than his twenty twenty
four production. But a guy that is able to do

(11:30):
some things caused some havoc in the middle of that defense.
And then you mentioned him DeAndre Robinson in the middle
of that defensive line. He showed flashes last year at
Florida as a true freshman. Well, now it's the big time.
We need you to come out and play like a starter.
We need you to be one of those guys that
jumps onto the scene this year. I think the one
thing you can say about Bill Belichick's tenure in New England,

(11:54):
even when the talent dropped off, it was mostly on
the offensive side of the ball. He was still getting
talented defenses and making them work.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
It was just that they couldn't score.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
That's something that you hope at least translates over on
the defensive side. Here to Carolina.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
All right, well when we come back, folks, your boys
gotta go.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
I gotta work.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
I'm a working man, got a lot going on, but
you're gonna have a powerpack segment there. Haines King, Taylor,
Tannenbond joins the Boys on sports radio on ninety two
seven WFNZ.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Bye West,
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