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September 11, 2025 • 12 mins

The third week of Ballin' or Fallin' is here! Which teams will Wes & Walker choose to be BALLIN' or fallin'.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, mean doctor beshe you can't see my eyes bless
my head has been you did so, sir? I like sum.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
All right, let's get in there, folks. Tonight m C
State will be at wake Forest. The teams have met
every season since nineteen ten, making it the longest continuous
rivalry in the ACC and the second longest in the FES.
Six of the last eight games between NC State and
wake Forest have been decided by ten points or less
and five by six points or less. Wake Forest is

(00:46):
averaging over two hundred rushing yards per game, ranking fourth
in the ACC through the first two weeks. Man, when
we did our team week for wake Forest and for
NC State, I picked the Demon Deacons to win this game.
N C State is a seventh and then a half
point favorite, but I'm gonna stick with my pick tonight.
Do I feel fantastic about it? No, But I'm still

(01:07):
sticking with my Demon DC to pull it off. Because
last year the Deeks were supposedly down, and they were,
but they still were able to go into Riley and
get a victory.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So let me get the Demon Deeks to be balling.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
N C State perhaps a chance out to get back
tour with the first three games of the season having
beaten ECU. They did beat Virginia in this game, but
really the two get back games were beating the Pirates
to open up the season. Perhaps they do so again
against Wake Forest. I think they will. They open up,
as you mentioned, a seven and a half point favorite
on the road quote unquote in the triad on the road.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I think CJ. Bailey is awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I think NC State offensively really clicking right now. So
I think because of the numbers that they're going to
be able to put up, they end up balling against
the Demon Deacon.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
App State only a two and a half point favorite
with Walker Male over Southern Miss.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
They will be on the road through two games.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
App State, though, ranks in the top twenty nationally and
total offense and total defense. Among some of their FBS leaders,
AJ Swan is tied for six in the country at
three hundred and thirty one passing yards per game. Rashad
Debinion is number two at one hundred and fifty two
rushing yards per game. Southern Miss scored thirty eight points
and it's win over Jackson State last week. It was

(02:25):
the most point since scoring thirty eight against app State
in October of twenty twenty three. I think that this
is going to be a really good game toald. I
like Southern miss a little bit more than you do,
because I think the coach is the real deal, and
he brought a lot of his players over there with him.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
But give me app State to be balling. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
I mean, they did score seventeen points against Mississippi State.
They did have a nice eighteen point win against Jackson State.
I just think App State is a team that I
trust a little more right now with what they've shown earlier.
You mentioned the offense, and here's another quarterback that I
trust in aj Swan. At least go Lopez destroy Charlotte
Aja Swad did so if we're just saying it's Charlotte's defense,

(03:04):
they're terrible, whatever, that is true, but Go Lopez didn't
do what Swad. So I do think that, especially with
the rushing statistics that you also provided, I think dal
Loggins is starting to earn some respect as a guy
that's able to groom some quarterbacks to be pretty good
and reach their ceiling.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Give me up State to be bound and they cannot
turn the ball over though, like they did. Appstate has
got to get those turnovers under control. East Carolina heading
down to Coastal Carolina going down to the beach baby
Cayden Howson completing nearly seventy percent of his throw six
hundred and eighty yards, three touchdowns, no picks. Defensively, East
Carolina only giving up thirteen and a half points per

(03:40):
game two hundred and eighty seven yards per game, and
Coastal Carolina their rushing attack, that's the only positive thing
you can point to offensively, and also their defense giving
up twenty four points a game over three hundred yards
per contest sold Jennis when Coasta Carolina is trying to
get that passing game in order.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Tad Hudson, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Sure if he's the guy right there, So give me
East Carolina seven and a half point favorite to be baldin.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I hate for this to be such a quarterback centric
balling or falling from yours, truly, but these are the
Heaples's going to be heavy going into these games. That's
how it is. Kate Houser has been very good Coastal Carolina.
We don't have to be QB centric for them. They've
just not been good period. In the first two games.
I don't care if I have been a fan of Virginia.
They got beat down to open up the season. That

(04:28):
did not set a good precedent of things to come.
I think ECU is going to be balling. I just
think they're pretty clearly the better team through this point
in the college football season.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
All Right, the Darien Mencibo Duke will travel to Tulane
when Tulane is the favorite, and this one by one
and a half. Duke plays his first road game of
twenty twenty five. Darien Mensa returns to New Orleans, where
he started thirteen games for them last year. He stopped
three hundred yards passing in both games this year and
his fourth nationally with seven hundred and twenty three passing yards.

(04:57):
Quarterback for Tulane Jack Jake red slav the BYU transfer
one hundred and seventy seven rushing yards, two touchdowns plus
another two seventy seven through the air and two scores,
and the Greenway defense leads the nation with seven takeaways.
Duke has been turning the ball over at a high clip.
When we picked this game during team week, I picked

(05:19):
the Duke Blue Devils, But I'm gonna go the other way,
and I think that the Duke Blue Devils will be
falling to two lane.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yet you don't like what you've seen from Duke so far.
Really the first couple of.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Weeks, I think they aren't able to run the ball.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
They turn the ball over a.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
Ton, which puts their defense, which is pretty good in
my opinion, in bad positions. But I just think when
you can't run the football and you turn it over
a lot, I just think that that's just a recipe
for mediocrity.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Darry Minsa had a bad fumble against Illinois where he
was pretty careless with the football. He also had the interception.
I will say the backbreaking mistakes they go into the
evaluation because it ends scoring drives. It was in the
red zone, I believe where Mensa fumbled this football against Illinois.
Can't do it against a good football team, you're going
to lose. So he had a big part in them losing.

(06:07):
I still like him. I still think he's a good quarterback.
There were still some really impressive throws reaching over three
hundred yards, especially in the second half against Elon two
lane is good. You mentioned their defense. It was against
South Alabama. They did allow thirty a lot of the
overall stats for what they did so far, it has
to they just taken that football away well, and it's

(06:28):
because of what they did against Northwestern, limiting them to
three points. You know in South Alabama they did allow
thirty one. I think Duke's offense is going to be
good enough. I think mensa. I don't think he's a
high turnover prone quarterback. I think he'll get it squared away,
especially with the philosophy of going against your old team.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Give me Duke to be baller, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
A lot of disagreement Vandy in South Carolina. You talk
about quarterback matchup in this one. The game Cocks have
won each of the last sixteen games against Vanderbilt and
twenty three of the last five between these two schools.
The north Sellers off to a sixty and a half
percent completion percentage, three hundred and thirty seven yards passing
two scores, also forty eight yards rushing and a score.

(07:11):
But the biggest staft for him he has not turned
the ball over this season. We know about Diego Pavia.
He went into Blacks bird stomping in those big cleats
and got it done.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
He holds the.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Highest offensive rating of any quarterback with the ninety three
point one grade through two weeks according the PFF, and
also leads all qualified players with a twelve percent big
throw percentage.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
This is a tough one.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
I struggled with this one during South Carolina's team week.
I picked the game Cars this week with Vandy coming
to South Carolina, I will take the game Cocks to
be bowling only because they are at home, because the
wake force in me, I relate a lot to Vanderbilt
and how they give it up. They're talking about this
is one of the best teams that they've had, maybe

(07:57):
the best ever.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
I like them a lot.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
I would not be shot all if the Doors got
this win.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
But I'll go with South Camlin. I thought you were
gonna change it if I was this closed. If you
were to ask me, where do you think West is going?
It's just based off of some of your takes with
South Carolina, and it's not like they've been wildly impressive
to open up the season. I believe in South Carolina's defense.
I did coming into the year. Nothing I've seen has
swayed me from that opinion. They've not played great football teams.

(08:24):
It's been Virginia Tech where Vanderbilt only allowed them to
score twenty points. And it's been South Carolina State, to
which South Carolina limited to ten points. So this is
the first real competition that they're going to face. If
they keep Vandy in check offensively, then I'm playing off
the ground ready to fly with what the game Cocks
can do. I think they're going to be balling this

(08:45):
weekend against the Commodors. I haven't seen enough to sway
my opinion, but yeah, I'm with you. Vanderbilt doesn't seem
like a one year fluke for the Commodoor all right?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
And then the number twelve Clemson Tigers walk a mill.
This spread has dropped to two and a half and
what was its nine and a half from yeah too?
As they go to Atlanta to take on the Yellow Jackets.
They have one nine straight have the Clemson Tigers. They
came back from a sixteen point halftime deficit against Troy
last week, seventh biggest comeback in program history for Georgia

(09:16):
Tech quarterback and Filow. He earned acc Rookie of the
Week honors after he threw for three hundred and seventy
three yards in a score versus Gardner Webb in his
first career start, and Georgia Tech leads the ACC in
total offense, yards per play, rushing, in red zone scoring.
Those marks all ranked in the top ten nationally. Clemson

(09:37):
is underachieving in a major way. I thought that this
would be a game that they would come down and
get the job done yet again, because they've won nine straight.
Who am I going to pick in this game? Because
Georgia Tech has me very very worried. I'm gonna stick
with the Clemson Tigers to be balling. But this is
another one of those that if I look down at

(09:58):
the score and see that the yellow the Deacons have
gotten is done, won't bat an eye.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
So Clemson and Georgia Tech, it did not play last year.
They did play in twenty twenty three. Haines King was
the quarterback in that game, and they got beat down
after a twenty one points second quarter Clemson had and
then they just turned it on the second half again
forty two to twenty one. It was beat down vote
and that was when Clemson moved to six and four
after that victory, So it's not like it was a

(10:24):
prominent Clemson team. Haines King looks like he's progressing that's
the big question. If Haines King doesn't play, then there's
no way Georgia Tech keeps this all that close.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
So you're not a big believe in Filo because he
had flashes last year. He came in it and hurt
Miami when they beat Miami last year.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
I just think Haines King is one of the best
quarterbacks in the Aces, and I think it takes that
kind of effort, in that kind of talent to beat
the talent that Clemson has. Even if they haven't looked good,
I'm going Clemson still.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah. I didn't saying you don't sound confident, though I don't.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it should be the ball
in if she was like falling.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, I think I think they're Yeah, I don't even
know what word.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I can't call it ballind but I think they're going
to win. If they lose to Georgia Tech or if
this thing is real close, then I think this is
where like now we have to have some are they
going to represent the ACC at all kind of conversation?
Are they going to make it to Charlotte for the
a CEC champions Right, and then in the ball is balling.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I decided to rename that section where I feel like
we will agree in a consensus fashion on a game.
So Richard in North Carolina, I think we win. We're
not sure how good they will look, shoppy when you
look at some of those spreads, the gambling young man
that you are. Are there any that you like or
really don't like if you were to look at this board?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
Oh yeah, as of right now, I actually like State
seven and a half. I would take that. I think
that they're going to beat the doors off awake for
us today.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Sorry you during the.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, I think I think NC State covers seven and
a half and I would take.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
That's tough.

Speaker 4 (12:00):
I would I would take Tulane to cover one and
a half over Duke outright win? Yeah, okay, I mean
pretty much. Yeah, I mean but you know the one, Oh,
I'm stupid.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
I thought it was I'm sorry, I thought it was
too Lane was h was the outther dog?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
The one I was gonna ask you guys about is
not here? Charlotte and Monmouth. I forgot to put Charlotte
Monmouth in there too. That's another Is that a ball
of bawling? Is that one where we feel a consensus
about Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I'm gonna go with Sean, but I think this one
could be real moment Booty gang fathers be balling.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Walk.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I think you're gonna be sitting in the fourth quarter
like it'll be all right. Am I gonna be feeling
when this one is over? Okay, okay, knock on wood,
all right, it'll be all good. Father's balling, baby, go Niners,
all right.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Fox, when we come back, we know you love it.
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