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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We go over to the phone lines now and welcome
Bobby Mark's front office insider for the NBA for ESPN.
You can follow him on Twitter at Bobby Marks forty two.
And Bobby, we really appreciate the time. I imagined that
you're a little busier than maybe you were twenty four
hours ago with some of the stuff happening in the association.
At this point, I wanted to talk about Estralla and
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Hornet's potential playoff run and championships and all that stuff
down here. We can still get to it, don't you were.
I know you want to talk about the Hornets, but
we'll get to it in a moment. I did have
to ask you about the surrounding storyline though, of the
gambling ring Chauncey Phillips, Terry Rozier. They've been arrested as
part of a pair of wide ranging investigations related to
illegal sports betting and rigged poker games backed by the mafia.
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Oh my god, I mean sounds a little movie ish here, Bobby.
Here's my question, because you know how the league operates
so well, what's happening with Adam Silver in this moment?
Does he know this is about to hit a couple
of hours before. Is he finding out real time as
we find out? And I guess my next question is
what is his main job now that all of this
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has come about?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, the Roseier stuff,
I don't think probably caught anybody off guard, just because
it had been circulating for a while at least over
the last year, and the league got investigated and you know,
it was still part of a criminal investigation with with
the federal government and stuff. I think, you know, there's
the you know, certainly the Chauncy Billips angle, and then
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the Damon Jones stuff that's in the indictment is I
think it's probably the most damning of all these all
the stuff out there basically getting information from players and
you know players you know, or trainers you know, not
knowing they were giving him that information that he was
going to basically be selling it to, you know, people
to be basically place bets against against or for the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Here.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I think that stuff is really really damning. I think, listen,
I think we live at a day and age where
we've got a lot of states that legalize gambling. We've
got to and it's really not just it's not betting
on individual games. It's the prop bets. We we kind
of knew this day would eventually probably come. We saw
a little bit of a John Day porter where the
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prop bets basically have you know, are in the forefront here.
But you know, the commissioner was part of the league,
not the commissioner at the time when we went through
the referee situation back into two thousands. Here. Now it's
kind of protecting the image. It's protecting the image of
the league. We had two great nights of NBA basketball,
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We really did. We should be talking about Charlotte today
and Wemby and some of the things that happened over
the latch. Okay, see, but we're talking about this rightfully.
So it is a big news story here. But I
think a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Is, Okay, is this isolated?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Is there anything else out there? What else should we know?
And I think when you read the indictments, there's a
lot of stuff in there, man, I mean there really is,
as far as things that were you know, the rosier stuff,
certainly in the Damon Jones and of course the Chauncey
Billups information Bobby out.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Bobby, I was gonna ask you, you know, are you
fearful of just how deep this could go, especially with
these guys being arrested and maybe what could get said
as far as them naming others.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I'm fearful that if we don't do anything regarding prop
bet that this is not going to be an isolated situation.
And I say that, whether it be high school, whether
it be you know, college athletes out there, when a
player sits out a game and tells his friend, and
that friend bets an enrman amount of money here or
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based on how many points you're going to have or rebounds,
I think if that was cleaned up, I don't think
we would have a you know, probably a situation like
we're having right now. So yeah, I mean, you know,
the indictments don't link anybody else. I mean there's people linked,
but not as not as a defendant in the case here,
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but I don't I don't think any Hopefully nothing else
comes of it here. But listen, this is going to
be in the forefront for a while just because of
it's a new situation.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
And as you said, you have a head coach.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Hall of fame coach, you have a current player, and
you also have a former coach and also player.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Bobby Marks, joining us on WESN Walker Sports Radio ninety
two to seven WFNZ. We want to talk Hornets too, Bobby,
so let's go ahead and get to it. Because it
was an awesome game last night. We were excited around
here with all of the moves they made during the offseason.
We felt like national pundits should have them pretty high
up on their League Pass rankings. I imagine they go
a little higher if you needed proof of concept. What
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were your thoughts on the Hornets coming into this year, Bobby,
and how were those disproven or proven in last night's
winner to the Nets.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
I think one of the biggest thing for me with
Charlotte has always been, you know, and we've talked about
it a while, just kind of availability.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Right like you knew.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
They have the talent with LaMelo and Brandon in Miles,
and I certainly liked what they did in the off
season getting concepts and in con and some of their
other moves they were able to make kind of the
trimming around the edges, but it was just a matter
of just basically kind of, you know, getting everyone on
the court at the same time.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I think you have to be really happy what you
saw last night.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I know, you know Brooklyn is not projected to go
pretty far, but who cares that when counts in the standings.
And I think what you have to be happy about
is what you saw from your bench. When you can
get fifty plus points. Your former pick last year, Saloon
played really well, you know, I mean just to shoot
the ball from three, and you basically got a really
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you know, you have a little bit of a mix
of everything. You get your two rookies in the starting
lineup with with Ryan and con and as I said,
your bench. I think the beauty of the right the
start of the season is the slates wipe clean. Right,
whatever happened last year or the year before after that,
you wipe it clean, and you kind of just used
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these games as building blocks.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Bobby, I wanted to ask you about Kanka Nipple and
he comes into the league and we've seen people getting
hyperbolic about him, saying that he could be a future
Olympian and some of those things. What did you take
from his performance? Was he as advertised to you?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, we saw, you know, certainly when we saw Duke
last year, and then we saw probably a bigger body
of work than most rookies in summer league. Here about
you know, the ability to shoot the ball, and then
you know last night he you know, he scores eleven
points but goes three for four on three. I think
you have to be happy with what you what you
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saw last night.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I think anytime you can get.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Your first round picks have an impact in the game.
In game one, I think is a is a really
good sign.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Did Brian Caulkbrenner, in your opinion, look like a guy
that could be sustainable as a starting in an NBA.
I know it's just one game, but did he show
you some good things he did?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I mean ten and eleven against a player that's been
in the league and Nick Claxton. Definitely, I think I
think it's I think you're probably going to see probably.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
A little more you know, experimenting.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, we didn't see Plumbley last night. Dia body
played you know, twenty one minutes. There could be nights
where maybe both those guys flip flop as far as
from a starting standpoint or maybe not. But definitely, I
think you know, the ability to rebound. You get five
offensive rebounds in a game. I think, as I said,
is kind of a really good sign.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Bobby Marks joining us on Weston Walker Sports Rading ninety
two seven WFNZ one of the best at doing it
here talking contracts, salary, cap, ESPN Front Office inside or
follow him on Twitter at Bobby Marks forty two. I
would I did want to ask you because it felt
like it was a win for Jeff Peterson last night, Bobby,
with all the pieces coming together. I mean, you had
three draft picks look good, three out of the four
that you made. What is the reputation around Jeff Peterson
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within the league and even Charles Lee for what he's
been doing here in his young tenure with Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, I mean, I've known Jeff since he was in
Brooklyn and I am a huge fan of him. I
think the reputation, and Jeff has been pretty open about it,
is that he's going to take, you know, a really
patient approach with this roster. You know, he said, He's
said it multiple times. You don't want to skip steps,
and that's it's hard to do. I It's why I
say it's hard to do is that you have a
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fan base and certainly you guys who follow this team
that have been with this for a long time right
where Jeff is coming in, whether it be year two
or year three, and this is new to him here,
and there was no allegiance to what happened in twenty
fifteen or twenty sixteen, and he's going to see the
vision his way, and I think he learned a lot
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of that, and you know, basically going what happened in
Brooklyn when he when he got there in you know,
twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen there. So I think that's the approach.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
I do think it would be interesting.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
If that approach changes if you have you know, there's
always that temptations when you probably over I don't want
to say overachieved, but probably have better results than maybe
you're a little bit ahead of your rebuilding or your
retooling of the roster that you know, we're in February
and we're saying, hey, Charlotte, six games over five hundred,
you know, does that.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know he's a little bit as far as wanting
to go out and maybe.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Do something here and that that would be the you know,
the really interesting case study there. But I do think
I think Jeff has been patient rightfully, so he kind
of knows what the identity of this group is and
what or what this identity of this group could be.
He's drafted as we've seen, you know, so pretty well
so far.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
But we'll, you know, well, as I.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Said, we'll kind of let the season play out and
see where this team goes.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Bobby, I'm interested in what's gonna happen with Brandon Miller
obviously with this contract extension. So at the end of
this year, I mean, I wonder we can go with examples.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Is this going to be?
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I guess here's my question for you. What are your
biggest questions surround the Brandon Miller contract extension? Eligibility and
potential at the end of this year?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean, I mean on the core of course,
you know, as I said, availability right that that matters.
I think I would love to see a little bit
more of an uptick in more consistency from deep.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
So there's the on the court part of it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Rookie extensions.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I said this the Brian win.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Horse the other day. Rookie extensions are the hard stings
to negotiate unless you're a max player. And I don't
know if Brandon's a max player or not, because sometimes
you know, I didn't know if Kate Cunningham was a
max player a couple of years ago because he couldn't
stay on the court, and rookie extensions are based on
a little bit of what you've done in the past
and what you feel, you know, the potential of that
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player is. We saw a lot of players in this
go round go for you know, twenty five to twenty
six million dollars per year last sum last summer was
thirty million dollars per year. I don't know where yet
where Brandon will fit in there.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Roster building in this day and age.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Is a lot different than it was four or five
years ago, based on all these different rules. But I
think if he has a good year and he continually developed,
there's going to be a number for him, and I
think the number is going to be pretty significant.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Bobby, I was going to ask you too. We know
as the season goes on, coaches will cut their rotations,
and so I was going to say, with all of
the players that we saw play for the one ess
last night, do you believe in the depth of this team?
Do you think they will continue to play as many
players as they did?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I do.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I do, because you've got a mix of you know,
the two head of the three guys that you didn't
play with, you know, with plumbing and comments and our veterans,
and I know Liam didn't play either, but I think
you could put those three players out there also, you know,
if if needed. So, yeah, I do think.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I do think the depth, you know, depth in this
league matters.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think you're kind of like we're almost in like
an extended preseason for the next ten to fifteen games,
because I'm not sure what three or four games can
tell you about your roster or what you've done in
practice here. So I would expect, you know, you never know.
I mean, I would expect the death to continue as
far as going ten deep here, but things could certainly
change based on maybe the game is a little bit tighter,
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or maybe the the what you want to just shrink
your rotations a bit.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Bobby Mark joining us on Wes and Walker. Final question, Bobby,
I'm asking all about contracts. I think the Colin Sexton
situation is going to be fascinating too, because I think
he's going to be a fan favorite. He's only on
eighteen million, but it's an expiring What do you think
ultimately happens at the end of this year, do you
think that Colin Sexton's presence on the team will be
more valuable than cap space or do you think it's
going to be vice versa.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I think his impact as far as what he can
do on the court and what he can do in
the locker room, we'll pay dividends here for a guy
that's been in the league a long time and as
a veteran here. It used to be, you know, it
used to be expiring contracts, used to be like, you know,
the biggest trade asset, or we have to move off
that guy because we're afraid to lose them.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
I don't think you have to do that with with Colin,
And I think you kind of let the situation play out.
You let us hear your playouts, see where you are.
Maybe at the trade dem if you're far out of
it and maybe you want to go into diffirm direction,
you can do something there.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But I do think I do think he's.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Got a ton of value to this roster right now.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Bobby Marx, I don't think there's anybody better doing it.
Talking about the inner workings of the NBA, the money,
all of it. Follow him on Twitter at Bobby Marx
forty two. He is the ESPN front office insider. Bobby,
thank you so much for the time.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We appreciate it, appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Thank you.