December 1, 2025 • 7 mins
In this edition of the Campus Corner, Walker and Flounder give you their thoughts on the ACC Championship Game and the dire scenario for the conference of missing the CFP, which is still on the table.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time now for the campus cut on a Monday. Without West,
it never hits the same.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I don't want the same, but I liked it creative.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, done hit the same. Anyways, we have an a
SEC championship game set, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh, if you want to call it, that's sure kind
of brutal.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And I gotta be careful because I currently live with
somebody that went to UVA and is excited.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That's not the brutal part.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's that's totally fair. It's not the brutal part is
we thought that we had cleared this hurdle flounder.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's the funny part.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We thought we had set it up as there is
a possibility for Duke to actually see themselves in Charlotte
playing for an ACC championship. And really we thought we
had cleared that hurdle. We didn't think that it was
really going to happen, except you have everything that happened
the way that it did, And now a seven and
(00:52):
five Duke Blue Devil football team is going to be
playing a two loss Virginia football team for the ACC championship.
Both of both of these teams, by the way, Virginia,
I don't trust all that much but they'll have deserved
to get to the college Football Playoff if they win
the ACC Championship. Yes, they deserve to be one of
the top rated teams to get to the field. If
(01:13):
Duke wins Flounder and they go eight and five, oh god,
can you say the same thing about them, because I
can't tell you that. I watch Duke and I think, yep,
that's a top twelve college football team.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Even if they win the ACC Championship. God, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
If they win the ACC Championship, they need to be
left out of the field. You need to put in
the champion of the American Conference, and you probably should
put in the champion of the Sunbell Conference, the James
Madison Dukes. Now, the interesting thing about James Madison is
James Madison just lost their head coach. Bob Chesney is
(01:49):
going across the country to UCLA. Don't ask me why
that's I don't understand it. It makes absolutely no sense
to me, but that's where he's going. So now you're
gonna have this thing that people are gonna have to debate.
Is that team who is eleven and one right now?
If they win their conference championship, they'll be twelve and one.
Is that team deserving to go over a duke team
(02:11):
but without their head coach?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Right now we're in that situation. I mean, you bring
up the head coach not having your guy part. We
should we take a look at what's happening down in Oxford.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They got they've got one loss on the season.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I know, I know, I know, I'm just saying I
heard I think Mac and Bone touch on that very
idea earlier, and no, there's no way you leave him out.
But but we're seating should be hurt. That's I believe that.
That's the question. How does it affect you with the
ability that you might have to pull off at first round.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Upset so to speak?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Like does because you don't have Lane Kiffin at the helm,
which should matter if Lane Kiffin is a good coach.
Not having him coaching your football team should matter if
he's good, right Like, if he's replaceable and you just
throw any old assistant up there, then is LSU giving
him all of this money and all of this opportunity
to go coach? I'm probably not you make this higher
(03:04):
because you think he's a good coach. Exactly, we can
have that conversation a little bit later as well. I
don't want to get ahead of myself. The ACC Championship
this is the weird This is the weirdest one that
we've seen. We thought we could get away from coastal
chaos and it would all be hunky dory, everything would
be fine. We'd have an ACC championship truly representative of
what the best teams, the best two teams in the
(03:25):
conference are supposed to look like. Nah, man, you get
rid of Coastal, but you don't get rid of the chaos. Goodness, gracious,
we got Duke and Virginia playing for the champions This
is worse.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It is worse.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
We never had one in the previous times where you
looked at your you looked at the matchup, and you
said to yourself, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
This isn't deserving at all. Gods, Duke doesn't deserve to
be there. This should be Miami.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But because of the way that the tie breakers are formatted,
it ends up working out the Duke's there. The disaster
scenario for the ACC is in play here. I mean
at eight when football team being your representative for the
college football playoff, Like.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
If they make it there, they're gonna get blasted, they
are gonna get killed.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
They went one in three in the non conference and
they lost to Ukon.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That team could be playing for a championship. How does
that make sense? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
By the way, just to be clear, at ten and
two is the overall record for Virginia.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
They're seven and one in conference.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
The overall record for Duke is seven and five, which
is why I went overall record just to truly represent
what these teams look like against all opponents. But obviously
it's the conference standings that matter. Virginia seven and one,
Duke six and two in conference, and because of all
of the tie breakers, you have an ACC championship that
settles on the calves taken on the Blue Devils. And
(04:48):
by the way, SMU losing this weekend the way that
they did the cow that was.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The one that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's why I go back to we thought that we
had cleared the hurdles because I forget it was well,
maybe we didn't think it was. I wrong in saying
that flounder like, I don't think we were really worried
about No.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think we had put that scenario out of then
got to the point when they were five and five.
We had said to ourselves, Yeah, that scenario is kind
of out of the way.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We don't necessarily have to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It snuck up on us, and all of a sudden,
when we were watching on Saturday night, we were in here,
me and Fiddy were in here in the studio because
we did the I did the Hornets game, and we
start looking at the scenarios and we're like, dude, if
SMU loses this game, Duke is going to Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It was Mike Meyers esque and that you had already
we had already anointed SMU as the team of the
a SEC that we all trust the most at this
point that whoever wore that crown only wore it for
a week at a time, exactly exactly, and now it
was SMU. I guess we just play musical chairs with
this crown and we give it right back to Virginia.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I hope, so, I hope.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
So, man, you just do what you gotta do because
you're deserving of being there.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know what's crazy. I think Duke could win this game.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, they have the better quarterback in my opinion, and
you know how much I love Mits. I think he's
that talented. Can you do the thing where you randomize
the game by having the best quarterback even if your
overall team isn't the best. Can he just go nuclear
in this one, which I think is possible. We've seen
it before.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So what he did against Wake Forest Man, that was
a huge win for them, huge win for them.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I had Wake winning that and SMU winning their game.
But because the exact opposite of that happens, we find
Duke coming to Charlotte. Baby Wow, many dia is tip
of the cap.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh yeah, Charlotte's sad for Bill Belichick and his staff.
You got to be looking at this and saying, all
you had to do was go seven and five and
you could have made it to short.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That hurts. How pathetic is that? That hurts? And you
go four and eight. It's a good point. Disgust me.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I had not heard that point yet to just drive
the knife even further in to the back of North
Carolina fans. But you just did that by mentioning that
because that hurts a lot. With the week schedule, that
played out to be true and even weaker than I
think we thought coming in, right, we knew it was
going to be weak.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It might have been weak.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I would say on par, on par with this week
as we call Clemson wasn't as good.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's a big championship contender. Ye, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And Florida was a little bit better, I guess, than
we thought they were going to be. But does that
balance because TCU wasn't that good as good as we.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Thought NC State was. Yeah, you're probably right. It probably
was even easy.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Either way, it was either on par or slight. It
wasn't better than you thought. I know that the schedule
was not better
Time now for the campus cut on a Monday. Without West,
it never hits the same.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I don't want the same, but I liked it creative.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Yeah, done hit the same. Anyways, we have an a
SEC championship game set, folks.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Oh, if you want to call it, that's sure kind
of brutal.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
And I gotta be careful because I currently live with
somebody that went to UVA and is excited.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
That's not the brutal part.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's that's totally fair. It's not the brutal part is
we thought that we had cleared this hurdle flounder.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That's the funny part.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
We thought we had set it up as there is
a possibility for Duke to actually see themselves in Charlotte
playing for an ACC championship. And really we thought we
had cleared that hurdle. We didn't think that it was
really going to happen, except you have everything that happened
the way that it did, And now a seven and
(00:52):
five Duke Blue Devil football team is going to be
playing a two loss Virginia football team for the ACC championship.
Both of both of these teams, by the way, Virginia,
I don't trust all that much but they'll have deserved
to get to the college Football Playoff if they win
the ACC Championship. Yes, they deserve to be one of
the top rated teams to get to the field. If
(01:13):
Duke wins Flounder and they go eight and five, oh god,
can you say the same thing about them, because I
can't tell you that. I watch Duke and I think, yep,
that's a top twelve college football team.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Even if they win the ACC Championship. God, no, no, no,
no no.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
If they win the ACC Championship, they need to be
left out of the field. You need to put in
the champion of the American Conference, and you probably should
put in the champion of the Sunbell Conference, the James
Madison Dukes. Now, the interesting thing about James Madison is
James Madison just lost their head coach. Bob Chesney is
(01:49):
going across the country to UCLA. Don't ask me why
that's I don't understand it. It makes absolutely no sense
to me, but that's where he's going. So now you're
gonna have this thing that people are gonna have to debate.
Is that team who is eleven and one right now?
If they win their conference championship, they'll be twelve and one.
Is that team deserving to go over a duke team
(02:11):
but without their head coach?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Right now we're in that situation. I mean, you bring
up the head coach not having your guy part. We
should we take a look at what's happening down in Oxford.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
They got they've got one loss on the season.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I know, I know, I know, I'm just saying I
heard I think Mac and Bone touch on that very
idea earlier, and no, there's no way you leave him out.
But but we're seating should be hurt. That's I believe that.
That's the question. How does it affect you with the
ability that you might have to pull off at first round.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Upset so to speak?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Like does because you don't have Lane Kiffin at the helm,
which should matter if Lane Kiffin is a good coach.
Not having him coaching your football team should matter if
he's good, right Like, if he's replaceable and you just
throw any old assistant up there, then is LSU giving
him all of this money and all of this opportunity
to go coach? I'm probably not you make this higher
(03:04):
because you think he's a good coach. Exactly, we can
have that conversation a little bit later as well. I
don't want to get ahead of myself. The ACC Championship
this is the weird This is the weirdest one that
we've seen. We thought we could get away from coastal
chaos and it would all be hunky dory, everything would
be fine. We'd have an ACC championship truly representative of
what the best teams, the best two teams in the
(03:25):
conference are supposed to look like. Nah, man, you get
rid of Coastal, but you don't get rid of the chaos. Goodness, gracious,
we got Duke and Virginia playing for the champions This
is worse.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
It is worse.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
We never had one in the previous times where you
looked at your you looked at the matchup, and you
said to yourself, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
This isn't deserving at all. Gods, Duke doesn't deserve to
be there. This should be Miami.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But because of the way that the tie breakers are formatted,
it ends up working out the Duke's there. The disaster
scenario for the ACC is in play here. I mean
at eight when football team being your representative for the
college football playoff, Like.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
If they make it there, they're gonna get blasted, they
are gonna get killed.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
They went one in three in the non conference and
they lost to Ukon.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
That team could be playing for a championship. How does
that make sense? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
By the way, just to be clear, at ten and
two is the overall record for Virginia.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
They're seven and one in conference.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
The overall record for Duke is seven and five, which
is why I went overall record just to truly represent
what these teams look like against all opponents. But obviously
it's the conference standings that matter. Virginia seven and one,
Duke six and two in conference, and because of all
of the tie breakers, you have an ACC championship that
settles on the calves taken on the Blue Devils. And
(04:48):
by the way, SMU losing this weekend the way that
they did the cow that was.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
The one that was the thing.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's why I go back to we thought that we
had cleared the hurdles because I forget it was well,
maybe we didn't think it was. I wrong in saying
that flounder like, I don't think we were really worried
about No.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think we had put that scenario out of then
got to the point when they were five and five.
We had said to ourselves, Yeah, that scenario is kind
of out of the way.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
We don't necessarily have to worry about that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
It snuck up on us, and all of a sudden,
when we were watching on Saturday night, we were in here,
me and Fiddy were in here in the studio because
we did the I did the Hornets game, and we
start looking at the scenarios and we're like, dude, if
SMU loses this game, Duke is going to Charlotte.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
It just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
It was Mike Meyers esque and that you had already
we had already anointed SMU as the team of the
a SEC that we all trust the most at this
point that whoever wore that crown only wore it for
a week at a time, exactly exactly, and now it
was SMU. I guess we just play musical chairs with
this crown and we give it right back to Virginia.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I hope, so, I hope.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
So, man, you just do what you gotta do because
you're deserving of being there.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know what's crazy. I think Duke could win this game.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, they have the better quarterback in my opinion, and
you know how much I love Mits. I think he's
that talented. Can you do the thing where you randomize
the game by having the best quarterback even if your
overall team isn't the best. Can he just go nuclear
in this one, which I think is possible. We've seen
it before.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So what he did against Wake Forest Man, that was
a huge win for them, huge win for them.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
I had Wake winning that and SMU winning their game.
But because the exact opposite of that happens, we find
Duke coming to Charlotte. Baby Wow, many dia is tip
of the cap.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Oh yeah, Charlotte's sad for Bill Belichick and his staff.
You got to be looking at this and saying, all
you had to do was go seven and five and
you could have made it to short.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
That hurts. How pathetic is that? That hurts? And you
go four and eight. It's a good point. Disgust me.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
I had not heard that point yet to just drive
the knife even further in to the back of North
Carolina fans. But you just did that by mentioning that
because that hurts a lot. With the week schedule, that
played out to be true and even weaker than I
think we thought coming in, right, we knew it was
going to be weak.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
It might have been weak.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I would say on par, on par with this week
as we call Clemson wasn't as good.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's a big championship contender. Ye, that's a good point.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And Florida was a little bit better, I guess, than
we thought they were going to be. But does that
balance because TCU wasn't that good as good as we.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Thought NC State was. Yeah, you're probably right. It probably
was even easy.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Either way, it was either on par or slight. It
wasn't better than you thought. I know that the schedule
was not better
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