December 22, 2025 • 48 mins
In the first hour of the show, the guys give you their initial reactions to the Panthers taking down the Bucs yesterday, discuss some of the biggest heroes and plays from the game and talk about Bryce continuing to perform in the clutch.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Only Sports Radio ninety two point seven A half m
got with you, fncy, Fine, he's the Wesson Walker Show.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Even a crowd, no, let's come in there.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It is December twenty second, twelve oh one pm, and
the Panthers are atop the NFC South with a chance
to win the division and get to the Poms get
to the playoffs. That is for the first time since
twenty seventeen. Damn near a decade. And yeah, here we
are talking about the Panthers, not only with a chance
(00:44):
to win the division, with the last two games left
to go in the twenty twenty five season, you have
another division opponent, the same one you just beat yesterday
in Tampa twenty three to twenty to put yourself in
position to win the NFC South. You got two games
left to go, and if you do just get one
more win, you'll be above five hundred with a chance
to be a team that is above five hundred two
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straight years for the first time in franchises. H look
at that, December twenty second. It's okay to feel good
about yourself today, Panthers fans. It's Wes and Walker Sports
Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ We'll be talking about
that victory all day long, live from the Chandler Volta Studio.
Cvinjurylaw dot com, CV injury law dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
One call.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's all the Carolina's personal injury lawyers. Now everybody else
gets to go celebrate having clinched a playoff spot. Apparently
so many things were decided with what happened on NFL Sunday,
so many teams having clinched playoff spots. I believe your boys, Wes,
they clinched a playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We're looking at across the league.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So San Francisco looks like they're going to the postseason
and Carolina is a team that has yet to do so.
But I don't feel like I'm squidward inside my Easter
Island egg house.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I said egg.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I meant head Easter Island had house watching SpongeBob and
Patrick celebrate, like I feel like I'm celebrating right alongside
both of them because of the chance that the Panthers
had to get to the postseason for.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The first time.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like you might have been putting the cart before the horse. No,
this was what are you talking about. I'm saying for
the win. No, I'm saying, but I thought you was
saying because of the fact that you feel supremely confident
they're going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's what I don't feel supremely confident. Okay, Okay, I didn't.
I was excited. I'm a Panther fan and I'm excited.
It's okay if you are.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah. No, they won a game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
They had to win in order to keep their playoff
hopes alive. It does not mean that I think that
they are one hundred percent going to the playoffs. I
feel a lot better today than I did before this win.
I know that because the last game that I had
to go off of was another loss to a team
that is playing better. Yet you'd like to get at
least one victory off of in the Saints.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Man, it's crazy, because, I mean, could this weekend be
one of the biggest weekends in the Queens City and
quite some time that doesn't necessarily involved the Panthers. Yes,
the Panthers have to win, but you're definitely gonna be
cheering hard for the Dolphins and gonna be really sitting
on pins and needles watching that Tampa game.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, I mean, trying to find the meaning in this
next weekend's matchups, and I say plural because this matters.
Beating the Seahawks matters at home, but you also have
to have Tampa lose. So it's one of those Miami
You're gonna be pulling for them just as much as
you're gonna be pulling for the Panthers this weekend. And
in reality, you still have a chance to take control
of the NFC South with what happens the final week
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of the season. Now, I would love to just go
ahead and sneak in right away. That would be great
to where it doesn't necessarily come down to the final
week of the season. But it is a great theater.
It is phenomenal theater to have this game. I'd you know.
I'm glad that this game was at home yesterday. Won
the fans. Shout out to you guys. You guys show it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I do not anal number. I didn't say anything.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I asked the question, Jesus, I want to add on
my teens, what did I do?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I think they were confused as to why you might
have been saying I was putting the cart before the
horse on my excitement about that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I was just trying to ask a question. Nine ain't no, no,
but my God, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Tis the season of giving insults? Is what the season is?
Ten and four? But whatever, Yeah, it's okay. You know,
I gotta get a little swee with the knife, am
before I get out of it. I don't know that,
in fact, you chose to. I don't know that you
have to, but you did choose to do that. I
will say that I will choose to focus on the
Panthers being above five hundred, beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
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and a gotta have it situation, and they answered the bell.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We're going to be given out game balls, We're going
to be given out credit. We're going to be talking
about Carolina in our last show. By the way of
the week, at least hours included, you're going to be
here tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You're not going to be.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Here for the last hour and a half of this show.
Holiday schedule is at full force.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Here.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You got the young Guns, the Pride Squad, whatever you
want to call them.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We're firing it up, baby, there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They're gonna be panthering up and panthering down tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
All right. At least I think Wednesday is when you're
gonna be doing this. No, that's tomorrow. That's tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So you're being to add a what is it seven
forty five? So you can panther up, panther down, which
means who's playing well?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And who is it? Are you pulling up? Are you
pulling triple duty tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Are you in three different I am I'm gonna be
doing I'm gonna be doing the morning show from six
to ten. Yeah, I'm gonna be doing the midday show
from twelve to three. Yeah, and then I will be
doing the Hornets game later in the night.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Triple duty for flowing dog.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh yeah, all right, Well, hey, you only got one
show to do today, and that's the West and Walker Show.
Let's go ahead and pull up to the scene. Let's
go ahead and take care of your main responsibility and
being the bus driver around here. Let's open up the doors.
Let's get off the bus.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We look good getting off the bus.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I got.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Wes and a year that has been defined by inconsistency,
there is one thing that has been consistent at least
the last three games. And I'm going to start off
the show by giving a lot of praise to one
Bryce Young, where it's been a hell of a first
three years of his career where he was absolutely terrible
in his rookie season. But we throw that out the
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window because it was a terrible era. Frank Reich, nobody
on the same page. Nothing was going correctly. How in
the world can you grow and mature and that environment,
reality is you can't, And he didn't. The first two
games of a second year where there was stability, you
did have a new coach, he was terrible despite having
all day to throw, and so he got benched. And
when he got benched, Andy Dalton came in and played
(06:44):
well right away. It started to teeter out. It started
to go out the window in that regard. Also, as
far as the talent from Andy Dalton, he comes back slowly,
builds a resume towards being possibly a franchise quarterback. You
start this year Bryce Young, bad game against Jacksonville, stretches
of bad games. Also, you had some moments like what
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you had against the Falcons where he throws for almost
four hundred and fifty yards and sets a franchise record.
You have all of these game winning drives. You have
the moments where he does just what he needs to
do to beat the Cowboys to beat the Dolphins after
a slow start, and so it's still been inconsistent largely
here in twenty twenty five for everybody involved. That's still
true of the team because of the way they lost
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two of the Saints just last week. But I'm looking
for some level of consistency, and where I find it
right now it's Bryce Young, who again was very good yesterday.
In fact, dare I say excellent. I wouldn't say he
was excellent against the Saints, but he was not the
reason they lost. And I said that all last week.
Bryce played well against the Saints. It was everything else
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that lost in that game. The week before that Bryce
was balling against the Rams, or two weeks before that
with the buye included. Yeah, that's three games of Dan
left good quarterback play from Bryce Young, and here are
the Panthers above five hundred in large part because of
the way that he played. That's what we've wanted to
see here as Panthers fans. That's what we're getting, and
now we have a shot to win the title. Yeah,
(08:13):
I mean I was, I was semi rooting, you know,
for the Panthers. While I was sitting there watching the game.
I was popping off in my house when I was
watching Bryce do what he does. I did after the
touchdown to j T. Sanders when he used his creativity,
his magic back then in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I was like, go ahead and get rid of him.
I was like, go ahead. I said that to nobody
in my house. I was saying, I said, go ahead,
trade him somewhere else, let him go, because I mean, yeah,
he has been playing really well and it's just to me,
for him, it's going to get better just the better
things get around him. And it's just amazing what competency
and a few weapons will do for you, you know,
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for him, and they had moments. But the thing is
is that you know, this is a guy that you
want in your locker room, you want leading a team
because he's going to display that football character. He's going
to be a guy that going to you know, kind
of autocorrect, so to speak. Because each time he's had
a bad game, you could see it on him. He
wore it and then he come out, he comes out
the next week and he plays much much better. But yeah,
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for Bryce Shing yesterday, he was excellent. He did exactly
what offense called for. He was definitely every single play
that they needed him to make. It was a total
team effort for the Panthers yesterday to get this wint.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So continuing to highlight the last three games for Bryce
since throwing two interceptions against the forty nine ers on
Monday Night Football, This dad coming in from Edgar Salmingo Junior.
Find him on Twitter at Panthers Analyst. He's a great
Panthers follow. Most of you probably do already follow him.
Since that game against San fran Bryce has gone three
straight games without a turnover and he's totaled five hundred
and sixty passing yards ninety two rushing yards, which has
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been a big aspect of his game. Each of the
last three contests, six passing touchdowns, zero interceptions. The Panthers
are two and one during that stretch. Again, the loss.
I don't put a lot of that on Bryce.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I don't know how much at all that I put
on Bryce. There's a mis to tam mac okay. I
also can't ask him to be pinpoint perfect every single
throw that he ever attempts. So there was that throw
that was a miss. Also, I don't put a lot
of that on Bryce. I put a lot of this
win on Bryce. I put a lot of the win
on the way teamak responded in big moments, Jalen Cocher
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beating his guy off of the line, where Bryce puts
it on a dime to set up Ryan Fitzgerald for
a game winning field goal. Lathan Ransom is a hero
of the game after as Dave Newton said a million
different times, which is hilarious. I don't know if anybody
caught this from David Newton's coverage from goat it's a
hero the bad kind of goat is what he was referencing.
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But Ransom had the big time interception. Nick Gordon was
an absolute baller yesterday. There were lots of people involved,
in large part because of all of what those guys
did they won this one. But Bryce man like, if
we want to go into this season, I think most
people would agree that the thing you needed to see
the most was Bryce proved that he could be the
franchise quarterback on a large sample size. And even still,
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we do have to put in some of the stretch
caveats from this week on out, from that week on out, okay,
but largely Bryce has been good and certainly in the
victories you've seen him be a big reason as to
why they won, especially with all of the game winning
drives that you have to total from his young time
still in the NFL. And so we can focus on
a bunch of different things today, and we are going
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to Jaro Vero. I thought had a nice bounce back game.
Dave Canalis. I thought his play calling was quite nice,
taking shots downfield. Also sticking to the run, even if
it wasn't great, you're still stuck to it to where
the defense had to respect it. But man, I just
feel so good the way that Bryce is trending right now.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, you have to. And this is the guy too.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You look at the comebacks, you look at him just
able to consistently. If that's one thing he's consistently done
this season is if the Panthers have a chance to
come back and tie a game or win it late
in the game, he's been able to do that. As evidence,
he had his twelfth career game winning drive and he
had his sixth of this season. So that's another thing
that I think really bodes well for this team. And
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we're going to get into the topic later, but this
is a guy that in the playoffs that's exact exactly
what you're looking for, because those are the quarterbacks that win.
The majority of these NFL games come down to one
score games, and do you have that guy that can
either put you ahead to win or a guy that
can come back and tie the game for you, just
simply a guy that can get it done when you
absolutely got to have it in those gotta have it moments.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And so for him to come out in this game.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
With these stakes played the way that he did, this
is what he was bred to do.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's been his whole life. He's played in nothing but
big games.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So you know, I wasn't necessarily surprised by the quality
of his play.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
People are still writing it on the FanDuel text line.
You can too, people join in on the fund seven
oh four to five seven oh ninety six ten. The
number for the fandual text line is seven oh four
five seven oh ninety six ten.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Rough and Rugged. Rachel.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
She just sent in the fire Elmo, which is a
great Jeff one of the goats of all time in
my opinion. I once I think it was Doug Brands
and his wife who said fiery Lmo does numbers. I
agree with that. You put him out there. He'll get
a bunch of likes and retweets.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Truck or t.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Says We're still alive, baby, keep pounding. Just lots of
hype text coming in on the FanDuel text line. Cucumber
Tim says, awesome game, awesome win. One thought I had
during the game was, well, I will say it is
time to turn Excel into a tight end. Put him
on the Kelvin Benjamin Diet put him at tight end.
That's unk Tim or unc Tim. I'm not sure. Kind
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of like unk Tim to be honest with you a
little better. Yeah, Excel probably not one of the reasons
that we're celebrating this victory after a couple of bad
plays from him. Lots of Carolina Reaper text coming in.
It feels like the Carolina Reaper nickname. This is the
game that really sends it off because it is getting
a lot of national attention. They had the graphic on
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the Brocas yesterday, so we've known about it around here.
This isn't original, this isn't new calling him the Carolina Reaper.
I do feel like this is the game that might
have it catch on a little more.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Nash.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, that's the thing I never felt like it really
stuck like that. I felt like it was just something
that you heard, you know, a small contingent of people saying,
but now this might become a thing, and it is
a great nickname.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's excellent.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Malvo says, think y'all have praising Bryce a little too much.
He's a game manager, you know, and say, that's worth
how I praise.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But that's me.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
He's not turned it over. But I don't think he
can carry this team like a number one overall drafted
QB should. So you you heard all of the groaning
and the moaning and the exasperation in the background from
one Western flounder. He tried to be He's like, hey,
that's just me, and I get it. I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Man, We'll go get you another quarterback and then see
what they do.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
We just can we just not today, Like, can we
can we have this conversation later in the week if
we're going to have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
To be honest, I didn't even have to read it.
I just wanted to go back to it and say, hey,
I will people might be feeling this way. On the
opposite side, there is an overwhelming majority of people praising
Bryce Young for the way that he have that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm sure I have had their share of disparaging comments
towards number nine.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, and that's honestly same like I have too.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I've had my frustrations because I try to call it
like I see it on the field and if.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I mean yeah, but not to the degree of some
of the Texas. Get him out of town. He's trash.
He'll never be this that when he's in the never Yeah,
you know, shouldn't, couldn't all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, he's looking good right now, man, and he's giving
you some confidence that he can continue this going forward.
We've got two more games to go. We'll see if
the Panthers can win the NFC South. We'll continue to
talk about this game coming up next Weston Walker Sports
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personal injury lawyers Let's read some text messages on the world.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Let's let's ride, Actually, let's ride. Let's do a division title.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Let's do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Nice, nice job speaking with your own language back there.
I like it when you use the turntables as your
own language. And so let's ride is something that Flounder
brought to the table. I appreciate that. Let's read some
text messages here, Fandle text line seven oh four, five
seven oh ninety six, ten eight to eight writes in
shout out to number sixty seven on Tampa Bay's offensive
line for giving us all of those penalty yards. Oh,
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you ain't lying when I say it was a total
team effort. Luke Godkey was the twelfth man out on
the field for the Panthers. Instagram man, how about this,
So somebody that was on my top ten list not
on yours. Okay, hindsight looks very good for you. Hindsight
looks very bad for me for having put him on
the top ten list. I put him above my guy Temo, which,
by the way, Timo excellent in this game. But Luke Godkey,
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to me, just slightly a better gear.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Not anymore. We do it again.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I'm putting Tmo a couple spots ahead of him, so
the grades were bad.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
But short of that, he had he had what four
penalties in this game alone?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's right good. He had four penalties. So he had
two penalties all season long coming into this game. He
had four yesterday helping out the Panthers quite a bit.
So what I thought was gonna happen? I heard them
talking about it on Charlotte Sports Today. A couple penalties
early on Ashawn Robinson. Oh my god, I thought. I
thought the penalty on the field goal was trash. The
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first one was yeah, like face, but do you know
you can't test the center? But he fell into him? Yeah,
but you can't. No, I thought, you can't do it.
It looked like a bad call to me. He didn't
do it intentionally, It's not like the launching point. But
what they said was, God, what was the rule again
where it's you can't touch the center and he got
in between.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And I know Mark Scelari.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Not that I not that I take everything that he
has to say as gospel. I know he thought it
was of trash as well, and that you falled into it.
It seemed like that was a bad call. If that's
if that's the letter of the rule, okay, but I
didn't think it was a good call. The other one
on A'shawn Robinson. There was two on the drive, and
I thought that one was a good call, And I
was like, all right, great, we're gonna have a bunch
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of penalties again, just like we did against the Saints.
Is this what's going to happen here? And they're going
to be an undisciplined football team back to back weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Not the case.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was Tampa that turned out after the fact to
be the more undisciplined team.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Man, And that last drive, I mean, there was so
many penalties it was it was absolutely crazy. But at
the end of the day, it didn't match what happened
at the end of that Pittsburgh Detroit game. I got
you talk about penalties on that final drive, but nonetheless,
uh yeah, I mean the Panthers they had some mishaps
in Tampa as well, but you know, the Panthers, you
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still have to be proud of them being able to
stand up in a moment offensively and defensively, because that
was the thing too, because you had to be a
little bit worried there for a second if the defense
was going to give up a drive, because they would
he sent, but they had still given up their share
of yards and points, and so you felt like that
maybe if you left it in the defense's hands, that
maybe you might not come out of the other side
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of this thing alive.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Seven oh four or five, seven oh ninety six to ten. Still,
people writing in FanDuel text line Bicycle Herd said, isn't
it wild to have a quarterback and a team that
if it's coming down to the wire, I expect them
to pull it out.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You do feel good, I.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Te he's starting to get worried some man that if
you play against the Panthers and it comes down to
a final drive, he's starting to get that reputation where
you get a little bit worried because you know that
he's gonna make a place because, for one, you know
you already have the accuracy and a process and that's
already a part of the packete. But he's so slippery
back there, and he's so creative, and that's when he's
at his best. That's when he's at his element, when
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he's able to escape the pocket. And that's another part
about him, Like you really marsh Young really feels like
one of those quarterbacks. You really got to have him
dead the rights to get him on the ground, because
other than that he just finds a way to just
get out of there.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Play says it was leverage, that was the call. He
didn't get leverage on the play. If it leveraged, terrible
call because he didn't launch himself. That's what you're talking
about is you can't put on the back of somebody.
And Cam Chancellor did that to us where he did
it two times in a row. What was it twenty fifteen,
not twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen. I believe either way, Cam
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Chancellor did that to us once upon a time. A
sewn did not get any leverage whatsoever. In fact, it
felt like he was falling down because he tripped over
right of the gap between the snapper and uh, the
offensive lineman next to him. So it was like, OK,
either way either way they got the win. Man, it
doesn't matter. They weren't the undisciplined team in this one.
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I thought it was trending that direction, and then it
turned out to be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that were
more so the undisciplined teamed. Carolina Fishfinder. He says, good game,
but still don't think Bryce is the long term guy.
All Right, we got some more price coming in. Four
says we're scrolling. We're scrolling. We got some seven oh
four numbers writing in as well. I when to read
some of these text messages, Michael says, you know, as
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much as the defense came through, I still feel very
uneasy when we continue to have Mike Jackson lined up
on Mike Evans and they continued to play so far
off in short yardage downs, well and start handing out
some game balls if we can, shall we? Mike Jackson
I thought was good in this one, and in terms
of what the trends looked like at the beginning of
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the game, I thought that they would be really picking
on Mike jack because they lined up Mike Evans alongside
him quite a few times. The touchdown was had on
Mike Jack's watch. That's just a Hall of Fame player
making a Hall of Fame play, having the throw what
was it three yards out Baker Mayfield's touchdown pass. Mike
Evans won, but Mike jack got targeted I think eight
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times in this game.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He gave up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Four receptions all right, fifty percent completion percentage. It's not great,
but it was only for twelve yards. If you care
about PFF, I think he was the highest graded defender, Like,
despite being targeted so many times, which does happen quite
a bit with j C. Horn on the team. They
target Mike Jack way more than they target JC. And
in fact, there was the PI call in this one
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against j C. He wasn't targeted. There was no official
target registered for j C. Horn yesterday and in fact,
that's the first time in his career that he was
not targeted a single time outside of the PI call,
because that doesn't count with it being negated. Right, just
if you catch, if you catch a ball and then
there's PI and then it's accepted and it never happened.
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That's kind of how it happened here. But in terms
of a target officially not counting against jac Horn, they
didn't throw to him.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
They didn't throw to him at all. Yeah, he fell
asleep on that. What's the name catch a BOOKA.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Is it gonna be like this all day?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No? I just I just threw that in there. Yeah,
because he was in cover three. He's supposed to be
deep at the deepest he fell asleep about that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, it's not he but watched Left brought that up.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Too, So I'm not hating on him when you brought
up his day, I just said that he fell asleep
on that cover thread.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm not even trying to say that he was. I
was just putting out that they didn't give him that target.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh, I thought you were talking about his day in totality,
and I just wanted to make sure you threw that in.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
First, I'm not I'm not really trying. You ain't. You ain't,
but I'm bringing up a fact. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They did not, whoever they is, next Gen or PFF,
So two different publications did not say that he was targeted. Now,
if that was his responsibility, I actually didn't go back
and watch the tape on that one, so fair enough,
but I didn't see that that was a target. Next
Gen and PFF says he was not targeted officially in
this game outside of the p I call so J C. Horn,
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Mike Jack, I thought that they played well, not allowing
Baker Mayfield to throw for many yards the defensive line.
Nick Gorton, specifically, in my opinion, had his best day
as a Panther. Yeah, he was strong. He was very insane.
Thoughts on the game, What were some things that stuck
out to you?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, I mean, for one, just the fact that I
thought that Dave Canalis. I thought he caught a really
good game. I thought he made a lot of calls
to keep Tampa Bay guessing. I thought he kept that
defense on his toes, And that was the number one
thing that I was looking for. He had a lot
of formations where he was going, you know, eleven or
ten personnel that he was you know, putting guys in
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situations where coverage could be defined, guys could win, and
they were able to make plays.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And that was the thing kind of that I wanted
to see.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It wasn't a ton of just super condensed formations and
him just trying to force the run between his two backs.
He only ran it fifteen times in this game, which
I think kind of speaks to a little bit of
the physicality of this game, because Tampa ran at thirty
three times. So when you have a team that runs
at thirty three times against you, you're not going to
get but so many possessions. So I thought that he
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made good use of it. It was a nice mix
of what he was doing. And that was the number
one thing I was looking forward to is how this
canalist called this game? Is he going to get in
his bag and really helped this offense to be able
to make plays. And I thought that he did that
tetor rower for you know some of the plays in
there that I thought because I thought for a minute
he was heading towards having a tough day when he
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had the one one hander, which I did have a
smart comment when he missed that one when he threw
the one hand that I said that like but now,
but he ended up bouncing back having a nice day.
I hate they got Coca kind of involved late when
he when he got the deep one late in the game,
I was like, man, why wouldn't he or why are
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they waiting so long before he gets involved? But other
than that, uh, Legett just had a couple more plays
that continue to make you question, you know, what his
future is gonna look like. But all in all, like
I said, I saw the Panthers in this spot and
there was you know, some adversity. I mean, Tampa Bay
comes out, they jump on them, seven three, they go
straight down the field and they score and for everything
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to be on the line. That's the thing I was
the most anxious to see. What was how did they
respond to this? What do they come out and do?
And so I was like, man, they really answered the bill,
and so I thought that that was huge for this
team going forward. I felt like that they needed that
because if it does come down to a winning your
D scenario and Tampa Bay, I think that could give
them the confidence to potentially sweep Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, there is a shot. Part of it is because
the Panthers are playing better football right now I mean
emphasis on right now. I overall, team wise, that has
been the inconsistent problem here. After I just gave praise
to Bryce for putting three games together or each one
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of those games, I thought he was good to great
the team. I don't know how much faith you have
in the team getting the job done in these late
game situations, because there is the person that wrote in
is it weird that I feel good final drive wise
about the Panthers Now, I was like, well, you got
to be specific, because you only feel good offensively about
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this team putting it together. The defensively did feel like
they were giving up some yards and then Lathan Ransom
comes up with the pick. Because of the miscommunication between
Baker and Mike Evans, Baker scramble drill, Mike Evans thinks
he's going to break towards the middle of the field
and Baker thinks Mike Evans is going to continue to run.
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There was some luck involved, for sure. There was some
pressure to force Bryce up. Baker up the pocket and
you thought he was going to scramble, but there's also
some luck and Lathan Ransom, Johnny on the spot man
coming up with a big play bringing that ball in
to secure the victory for this team. So that was nice.
And Nick Gordon again, I just this was his best game.
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I saw Jordan Reid also talk about just the rookies overall.
Ransom with the interception, scorting with the Monster game Team
Mac with a good game. You also had Jimmy Horn
with a big play early Princely emmameling grated.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I thought we were going to remember him for a
terrible play when he ran into the kicker and they
didn't call it. That's something that should have been called.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, that was one that that was quite intriguing. Why
that that was not because when I was sitting there
doing it, I was looking at I looked up and
I was like, yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be
a rough Well.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It would have been offsetting, so it wouldn't have com it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Would have been but but yeah, they should They could
have called that, which I didn't understand.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
When Perreira was like, it would have been running into
and not roughing like he hit him.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I thought it was running. Well, roughing is when I
thought he hit the kick.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
He hit the kicker leg on that side, and then
I mean it was it was.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Firm contact, but you're going roughing on that one. I
thought it was.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But when he said that, I was like, okay, because
I thought, you know, running into is like where you
nip him a little bit and you might cause him
to fall a little bit. But I thought when you
made big contact like that, that was automatic roughing.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's what I thought. There was a couple of the refs.
It was a talking point yesterday. There was a few
tough points just so yeah, like I I feel like
I'm pretty.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Damn objective with the officials.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
They missed a call on Princely, Like just like I
thought it was bad on a shan It wasn't leverage.
According to somebody here, it was running in, which would
make more sense as to why they would call it
against Ashan Robinson. But the Princely Uman Millen non call
was helpful to us.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
The Yoshneiman non call the call that was a very
clear hold that they didn't call. But hey man, those
are the breaks, then's the breaks?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Them's the breaks? Is do you have to say it
like that? Yes?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I agree. You can't say those are the breaks. You
sound lame. Them's the breaks? You know football if you
say them's the breaks. But that's how it is, just Carolina.
They took advantage of some of the opportunities they were given.
It was funny that Princely though on Twitter said I
fudged up guys, sorry, like he acknowledged, Yeah, I messed up.
And so he's he continues to be a fun social
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media presence. But Jordan reed talking about the rookies, that's
what allows you to feel good about this team in
the now and the long term, that these rookies as
a class, they're getting a decent amount of play from them,
like even Uman Meellen, who had had a great year,
um and meel and is as the third round pick.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
What probably I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
If you count Fitzgerald is a rookie, he's probably the
fifth most impactful if you go t mac scorting like
Jimmy hornons spots, who Man Meellen in spots. Mitchell Evans,
I would say has been more impactful than new Man
Meellen overall this year.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Rookie.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You can go down the list and you can point
to guys that have contributed in big spots and in
this game specifically, they contributed.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, and I think that those up foundational pieces for
you going forward, and that's what you want out of
your draft class because again, you want to be able
to shorten the grocery list each season for what you
need to cook that meal, playing and simple. So it's
like at the beginning of the year when they were struggling,
we felt like, man, they may be right back in
the same place that they were as far as having
a draft similar positions to what you had drafted the
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year before. But now that you're seeing guys step up,
you're starting to see what they have. That's how your
organization continues to get better. That's how you build depth
is through drafts like this one where you can hit
on four or five guys.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So now you go back in and.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You can start addressing other areas because you've already taken care.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
How much do the coaches get credit for this one?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
In Dave Canalis and Avero for the game plans that
they had really all game long, but even in crunch
time where the offense delivered defense classic man ben don't
break and they bent a little bit on that final
drive and Baker Mayfield through an interception to.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Let them off. The hook seems strong, but.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I guess even still, I'll go ahead and put that
comment forward let him off.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Though you could somewhat say that because of the fact
it was veteran players that made that mistake, because Mike Evans.
He thought Mike Evans was gonna break outside and he
broke inside, and that's not something you typically see between
those two.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They normally have great chemistry.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So you could just say it's a gift from the
football guys for you to be able to get it.
I mean, for you to be able to win stuff,
win championships, division, super Bowl, no matter what it is.
You need some good fortune man or people call it luck.
Whatever you want to call it, but you need it sometimes,
and sometimes you might need a veteran receiver that doesn't
normally fudge up.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You fudge up.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's what happened with Mike Evans right there, and you
were able to have Leathan Ransom to have the awareness
to be Johnny on the spot to be able to
pick that ball up, especially after he got called for
the late hit.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It was absolutely the correct call on Chuck, which is
why it was so frustrating. We didn't see any Panthers
fans mad at the officials in that specific moment. It
was really, hey, Ransom, rookie mistake. Usually when you make
mistakes as a first year player, it's only a rookie mistake.
If you make mistakes as a veteran, it's just a mistake.
It's just anyways's rookie mistake. You're still allowed to have those,
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right because you'll get rid of those. You'll never be
penalized again as we move forward. But Leith and Ransom
bad play going after the quarterback. The Saints designed it
that way, and Ransom got picked on in that regard
the fact that he has a big play to help
the Panthers get a victory. After what happened last week,
I just feel really good for him. And then if
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you go down the list, Ransom deserves some credit score
and deserves credit J C.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Horn.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I had the good play against the run. I will
say that wasn't targeted except for I know you say
that it was his fault on cover three. There's somebody
else on the text line that agrees with you.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
There.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
There also is the p I call on him, which
you know the PI called it. PI this weekend was
a hell of a storyline all across wild PI storyline
this weekend, especially with the Lions game. There are a
couple other games it showed up as well.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The New England one that went on called last Night,
Oh my God, that was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Chris Collinsworth and Mike Rico legitimately did not know what
to say. They they had no clue how to respond
to a dude boutie boute booty however you want to
say it, getting tackled and just no, that's fine, it's okay.
That was a rough moment for the rafts man. This
is NFL blizz, rub some dirt on it. Get back
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to the lonest Grimmage. We're playing football. That's how those
guys called it at the end. Either way, any other
game balls you'd want to get? If Bryce is the
clear and obvious choice, is there anybody else that you
feel like, maybe an undersung hero of as to why
the Panthers were able to pull this one up?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh, that's up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I think some credits should be given the Christian rose
bowm because he may not be that great in coverage, yeah,
but he's been a hall raised around that line of scrimmage. Man,
He's had consecutive games with sacks. He had a sack
and a tackle for lost yesterday. He's a menace when
they send him on blitzes. So you know, he definitely,
you know, has his faults in past coverage, but as
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I've said that he's been he's been a hal raiser
around the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, Christian Roseboom good enough to help you out.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know. Again, remember no Trevin Wallace in this game
as well. So if you look at the way that
the linebackers played overall, you had Christian rose Boom come in.
Grades weren't great, but tackling was good for him. You
had Claude and chair Lists suit up and I thought
played solid football. I played solid enough, which is all
you can ask for from a backup. And if you
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play solid enough football, honestly, on this team, it's about
all you can ask for from the starters, let alone
the backups. So plenty of love going all around. People
do like the Derek Brown speech after the game and
this one saying we're not done yet, and the all
two you know, so a fun Derek Brown weekly tradition
is watching Baldy highlight them.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And it's also when the Panthers win.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I guess it's a bi weekly tradition because the Panthers
don't string wins together. What they do is they win
every other week. But after every win, Derek Brown is
going to have a profanity leaden victory speech at the
end is saying we're not done and we need to
keep our foot on the gas as he should. And
there's so many different bleepouts in the speech. But the
Panther how how worried is the Panther social media team
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putting that video out every time just making sure they
bleeped every single curse word.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm saying they go over it any times, meticulous.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Flounder, would you feel a little nervous putting that one
out there.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Of course, of course, anytime you're working with a piece
of audio where you've got multiple bleeps, you're always the
when you first play it, you're always going to be
saying to yourself, oh, I probably missed one and they
luckily they didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Unsung heroes.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
By the way, people saying Fitzgerald deserves credit, absolutely got
the game winning field goal kicker, get some credit. We
also have people saying that Todd Bowles should get credit
for the Panthers out. Oh cook, a couple couple bucks
getting some credit for the Panthers win today on Victory Monday.
All right, we'll take a quick break, we'll come back.
We'll continue to talk about Bryce Young. Does his late
game heroics make them the perfect playoff quarterback? Not a
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good one, but a perfect one. We'll get to that
coming up next on West and Walker.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Welcome back, folks.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
This is the West and Walker Show Sports Rebbio ninety
two seven. W n Z Panthers get to win twenty
three to twenty over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we've
been going through it. You guys have been sharing your
thoughts on the FANDU text line seven on four, five, seven,
ninety six ten, keep them coming. A lot of good
vibes there as well, and Walker Te's did when we
were going to the break. But Bryce Young and his
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late game heroics is starting to become a thing in
national pundits, and you're starting to see it on broadcast now,
and they're starting to really talk about the fact that
this guy is a late game player when you talk
about plays that happened in clutch time. And so he
leads a seven play, forty three yard drive in the
final five minutes of the game to set up the
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forty eight yard field goal by Ryan Fitzgerald, and that
marked the twelfth career game winning drive by Bryce Young,
the most in the NFL since twenty twenty three and
the second most ever by quarterback under the age of
twenty five. Only Justin Herbert, who has thirteen of those drives,
has more of those. And then he's got six game
winning drives this season, which are tied with other young
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quarterbacks Bo Knicks and Caleb Williams for the most in
the NFL. And one thing before we get started digging
into this is when people are talking about how they
don't necessarily steal see Bryce, you know, as a franchise quarterback,
or see him as the guy to be able to
lead this team, or you know how some of his
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statistics are kind of segmented into different things.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
But really, and a topic that we will get into eventually.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
When we've been talking about how the passing yardage is down,
offenses aren't putting up as guarding numbers as they once did.
And so that's the thing, like, you can't really point
to many quarterbacks this season, if really any, that have
just been playing great football weekend and week out. Everybody
has had their kind of dry spell, so to speak.
Even you look at Josh Allen, he had weeks where
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he was struggling with the turnovers. We remember early in
the year when they lost a couple of games in
a row to Atlanta. I forget who else it was
that they lost to, and he wasn't playing great. Matthew
Stafford had a bad game right here in Bank of
America Stadium. He had probably been playing the most consistent
out of a lot of guys. But I feel like
tons of quarterbacks this year, even the top tier guys,
and we already know the struggles that Patrick Mahomes has
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had this year that it hasn't really been any quarterbacks
that's been through and through every week just been super
consistent with their play.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I would say Stafford is pretty damn close. He had
two turnovers against the Panthers or maybe three totals. Alrighty
had two picks and then he had the fumble. So
Stafford only still has five interceptions, right, like staff You're
not wrong, Like still the stats aren't as fruitful as
they once were. Stafford's going to throw for a bunch
of yards. Dak Prescott, He's gonna throw for a bunch
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of yards. Jared Goff's going to get to probably what
four forty five hundred something like that. You still have
some of those qbs reaching some pretty impressive numbers.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
People keep I think what we've.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Done, especially watching Drake may last night, who famously now
got to three hundred do so the first time this season.
I think that took people by surprise. Drake may Waite,
he's MVP runner up, MVP favorite in some people's minds,
and last night was the first time that he's thrown
for three hundred yards. Well, that just shows that nobody's
really thrown for that much fair He is fourth in
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the NFL in passing yards this season after just the
one three hundred yarder like he had been to ninety
to seventy, been pretty consistently in the higher two hundreds.
Bryce's twentieth and total passing yards this year. Now the
question becomes, Hey, we don't need to put all the
stock in the world into the lack of passing yards
and we can still say Bryce has the goods to
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continue this journey. Bryce is good enough right now with
the game winning drives, the clutch time performances, the big
time throws on those final drives, the pinpoint accuracy that
we've seen much more in my opinion, the last half
of the season than we did the first half. That's
all the stuff I need to see to say clearly,
you're picking up the fifth year option, and look, we'll
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figure out what those long term extensions look like. That's
going to be still a pretty interesting back and forth.
I don't know how contentious it's going to be anymore,
but it's going to be an interesting back and forth.
And he's been playing very well the last three week.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, coming into this week's games, if you looked at
the guys in the top five, who do have the
higher ends of yards. There's only four on pace to
throw for four thousand because Patrick Mahomes got hurt. But
Dak Prescott, Stafford Golf and Drake may coming into the
games this week if they stuck to their averages with
what they had coming in with the only guy set
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to be able to hit that mark. But again going
back to Bryce Young and what he's been able to
do with his late game heroics, and you feel like
that this Panthers team and we know that they've been
up and down. We saw the cute little graphic they
had with that with the seesaw. Did you like that
one that they had for the Panthers talking about their
up and down season?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I tell you I appreciate it because I myself have
been looking for other examples outside of roller coasters, and
I'm glad that they came up with the seesaw. Not
that it was riveting or rocket science, but I'm just
glad he gave me something else other than a Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
So when you look at that and you say, you know,
what do you want in a quarterback in a playoff
scenario and we are talking about right now, what kind
of in a place where you know, all these quarterbacks
are throwing for three hundred and three fifty even two
seventy five, two eighty on a weekly basis. So if
you are going to have a quarterback that's going to
be thrown for less than hell two twenty two forty,
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whatever you want to say with Bryce Young, but he's
got the ability to be able to make the plays
when it absolutely matters for his football team, and I
think that really bodes well for him.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Imft.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
The Panthers are to get into the playoffs, and I
think that that's a huge asset to have on your side. Now,
the guys that I talked about having the game winning
drives this year, they're young Bucks themselves and bow Knicks
and Caleb Williams. But I think for Bryce Young, the maturity,
everything that he's been through, I think that this makes him, uh,
you know, a really really great quarterback to have. And
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I know I put perfect for the hyperle hyperbole, and
I won't necessarily call him perfect today, but I do
think that this makes him Taylor May for the playoffs
because of the fact that he's not afraid of the moment.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
No, he's not afraid of the moment at all. The yardage.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Maybe it comes at a higher level as he grows up.
I would like to see it. I'd like to see
more yardage for him. I think that means better things
for the offense. I think that means better things for
Bryce Young. One thing that is inherently true. We can
try to turn all these arguments against one another as
much as we can, right but one thing that will
immediately go to Let's say we have a debate about
a quarterback. What's one thing you immediately start to do.
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You pull up Pro Football Reference, you pull up Pro
Football Focus. And with quarterbacks, we don't bring grades up
as much, but we'll bring up the yardage downfield, and
then we'll start to make up all these arguments based
on what kind of stat that we're trying to prove
our point. But all reality is, if we want to
get back to the basics, people do start to look
at this stuff quite a bit. And if you don't
have a lot of throwing yards, well then do you
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help in other ways? Like Cam who got to four
thousand yards one time in his career, but he also
is maybe the best red zone threat of all time,
certainly goal line threat of all time. Josh Allen, same thing,
Lamar Jackson, same thing. What I equate Bryce Young's success to.
It's kind of hard to find guys that don't have
the crazy wow stats passing that we consider great quarterbacks,
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like at least in the modern era. Like we can
go back and we can people can say Troy Aikman
overrated all that stuff, right, Russell Wilson throwing wise, is
what I look at with Bryce Young right now, who
didn't have the crazy throwing season. Ever, he only topped
four thousand yards four times in his NFL career. He
topped forty two hundred yards twice, and it was pretty
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similar once in twenty sixteen, once in twenty twenty. Coincidence
that a guy that spent so many years in Seattle
and now he's the head coach of Carolina, he has
two smaller sized quarterbacks that have similar ceilings in terms
of yardages throwing the football. No, I don't think it's
that much of a coincidence. In fact, I think that
with all he's talked about taking bits and pieces of
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the Pete Carroll's system and applying it here, it makes
a lot of sense that we would see Bryce Young's
throwing totals mirror a lot of what I think we're
going to see from Russell and what we did see
early on in Russell's career thirty one hundred, thirty three hundred,
and thirty four hundred for Bryce for Russell his first
three years. I think that's the kind of passing trajectory
that you potentially see with Bryce Yaw.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
And So when you look at.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
The quarterbacks that I talked about that have had the
comebacks this year, and those guys look to be playoff
quarterbacks in their own right, do you feel like that
because of this, that that he could be the most
bankable because we know, you know, the guys, the Staffords
in some of those vets, the parties, guys that have
been to the Super Bowls and all of that stuff.
But other than that, would he be up there in
the top. Maybe I'd take three four quarterbacks that you
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would trust in the playoffs based off the playoff picture today,
because I mean, you got Josh Allen sitting there, you
got Mats Stafford, we know that Brock Party's been to
Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts, all right, So that's four, but
they're out of the rest of those guys, I feel
like that, then you have to start getting it all right, Well,
if we put him here or put him there, this,
that and the third. But I would certainly put Bryce
Young up in the mix as one of the guys
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I would trust the most in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well, yeah, in the playoffs right now, I guess this
means it's a weird year. Jared Goff's not going to
be there. Do you trust Bryce more than golf? Pat
Mahomes clearly is injured and he's not going to be there.
So I think we would all go with Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Over a guy as they have it right now.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
You got Yeah Rams playing the Panthers, and you got
forty nine Ers, Philly Green, Bayed, Chicago, Seattle, Denver Chargers, Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, Texans, Patriots.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
So NFC, where do you put Jalen Hurts? No, I
got yeah, the playoff is.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
If I were to ranked the NFC quarterbacks, I would
probably go Stafford one. I would give Jalen Hurts his
due because he has been to the Super Bowl and
he has played well in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
This is his whole thing, is that he shows up
in big moment. Yeah, I'd give him that.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Then I'd put Party behind those guys because he hasn't
won one figure, And then I'd probably go Bryce.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
You over Jordan Love over Caleb Williams, so so forth.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
In the NFC, Sam Donald, Yeah, yeah, I Sam Donald,
I's not gonna go over Bryce him.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. Are you?
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Did you put Sam Donald above Bryce and trusting him?
I can't, man, I know Bryce hadn't done it, but
I don't know, Man, I wouldn't. I got to see
it in the post. I wouldn't trust Sam Donald love
of Bryce.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
You, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I mean, that's a tough one because he's been so good. Yeah,
and he did just come up with a monster second
half against the Rams, or fourth quarter against the Rams,
but we've also seen him falter in the postseason. We
just haven't seen him, you know, we haven't seen Bryce
at all.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
And this is why it could be such a chaotic
postseason is because there are not that many guys that
you actually trust in these scenarios.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
So yeah, I mean maybe.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
It's a Yeah, it's a lot of good, really good
quarterbacks that's gonna be in a playoffs. They're just unproven
in the situations or you have guys that only have
one and win, like a Trevor Lawrence, or you know
how many want CJ. Strot S got one two. Yeah,
so guys who aren't as seasoned yet. But it's just
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my belief in Bryce and what he brings to the table.
All Right, when we come back, folks, we're gonna talk
about CFP. What did we learn this weekend? On Sports
Radio ninety two seven w FNZ.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Even a crowd, no, let's come in there.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
It is December twenty second, twelve oh one pm, and
the Panthers are atop the NFC South with a chance
to win the division and get to the Poms get
to the playoffs. That is for the first time since
twenty seventeen. Damn near a decade. And yeah, here we
are talking about the Panthers, not only with a chance
(00:44):
to win the division, with the last two games left
to go in the twenty twenty five season, you have
another division opponent, the same one you just beat yesterday
in Tampa twenty three to twenty to put yourself in
position to win the NFC South. You got two games
left to go, and if you do just get one
more win, you'll be above five hundred with a chance
to be a team that is above five hundred two
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straight years for the first time in franchises. H look
at that, December twenty second. It's okay to feel good
about yourself today, Panthers fans. It's Wes and Walker Sports
Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ We'll be talking about
that victory all day long, live from the Chandler Volta Studio.
Cvinjurylaw dot com, CV injury law dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
One call.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
That's all the Carolina's personal injury lawyers. Now everybody else
gets to go celebrate having clinched a playoff spot. Apparently
so many things were decided with what happened on NFL Sunday,
so many teams having clinched playoff spots. I believe your boys, Wes,
they clinched a playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
We're looking at across the league.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
So San Francisco looks like they're going to the postseason
and Carolina is a team that has yet to do so.
But I don't feel like I'm squidward inside my Easter
Island egg house.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I said egg.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
I meant head Easter Island had house watching SpongeBob and
Patrick celebrate, like I feel like I'm celebrating right alongside
both of them because of the chance that the Panthers
had to get to the postseason for.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
The first time.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Like you might have been putting the cart before the horse. No,
this was what are you talking about. I'm saying for
the win. No, I'm saying, but I thought you was
saying because of the fact that you feel supremely confident
they're going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
That's what I don't feel supremely confident. Okay, Okay, I didn't.
I was excited. I'm a Panther fan and I'm excited.
It's okay if you are.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah. No, they won a game yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
They had to win in order to keep their playoff
hopes alive. It does not mean that I think that
they are one hundred percent going to the playoffs. I
feel a lot better today than I did before this win.
I know that because the last game that I had
to go off of was another loss to a team
that is playing better. Yet you'd like to get at
least one victory off of in the Saints.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Man, it's crazy, because, I mean, could this weekend be
one of the biggest weekends in the Queens City and
quite some time that doesn't necessarily involved the Panthers. Yes,
the Panthers have to win, but you're definitely gonna be
cheering hard for the Dolphins and gonna be really sitting
on pins and needles watching that Tampa game.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Well, I mean, trying to find the meaning in this
next weekend's matchups, and I say plural because this matters.
Beating the Seahawks matters at home, but you also have
to have Tampa lose. So it's one of those Miami
You're gonna be pulling for them just as much as
you're gonna be pulling for the Panthers this weekend. And
in reality, you still have a chance to take control
of the NFC South with what happens the final week
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of the season. Now, I would love to just go
ahead and sneak in right away. That would be great
to where it doesn't necessarily come down to the final
week of the season. But it is a great theater.
It is phenomenal theater to have this game. I'd you know.
I'm glad that this game was at home yesterday. Won
the fans. Shout out to you guys. You guys show it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
I do not anal number. I didn't say anything.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I asked the question, Jesus, I want to add on
my teens, what did I do?
Speaker 1 (04:02):
I think they were confused as to why you might
have been saying I was putting the cart before the
horse on my excitement about that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I was just trying to ask a question. Nine ain't no, no,
but my God, and.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Tis the season of giving insults? Is what the season is?
Ten and four? But whatever, Yeah, it's okay. You know,
I gotta get a little swee with the knife, am
before I get out of it. I don't know that,
in fact, you chose to. I don't know that you
have to, but you did choose to do that. I
will say that I will choose to focus on the
Panthers being above five hundred, beating the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
(04:37):
and a gotta have it situation, and they answered the bell.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
We're going to be given out game balls, We're going
to be given out credit. We're going to be talking
about Carolina in our last show. By the way of
the week, at least hours included, you're going to be
here tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You're not going to be.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Here for the last hour and a half of this show.
Holiday schedule is at full force.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Here.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
You got the young Guns, the Pride Squad, whatever you
want to call them.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
We're firing it up, baby, there you go.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
They're gonna be panthering up and panthering down tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
All right. At least I think Wednesday is when you're
gonna be doing this. No, that's tomorrow. That's tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So you're being to add a what is it seven
forty five? So you can panther up, panther down, which
means who's playing well?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
And who is it? Are you pulling up? Are you
pulling triple duty tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Are you in three different I am I'm gonna be
doing I'm gonna be doing the morning show from six
to ten. Yeah, I'm gonna be doing the midday show
from twelve to three. Yeah, and then I will be
doing the Hornets game later in the night.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Triple duty for flowing dog.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh yeah, all right, Well, hey, you only got one
show to do today, and that's the West and Walker Show.
Let's go ahead and pull up to the scene. Let's
go ahead and take care of your main responsibility and
being the bus driver around here. Let's open up the doors.
Let's get off the bus.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
We look good getting off the bus.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
I got.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Wes and a year that has been defined by inconsistency,
there is one thing that has been consistent at least
the last three games. And I'm going to start off
the show by giving a lot of praise to one
Bryce Young, where it's been a hell of a first
three years of his career where he was absolutely terrible
in his rookie season. But we throw that out the
(06:22):
window because it was a terrible era. Frank Reich, nobody
on the same page. Nothing was going correctly. How in
the world can you grow and mature and that environment,
reality is you can't, And he didn't. The first two
games of a second year where there was stability, you
did have a new coach, he was terrible despite having
all day to throw, and so he got benched. And
when he got benched, Andy Dalton came in and played
(06:44):
well right away. It started to teeter out. It started
to go out the window in that regard. Also, as
far as the talent from Andy Dalton, he comes back slowly,
builds a resume towards being possibly a franchise quarterback. You
start this year Bryce Young, bad game against Jacksonville, stretches
of bad games. Also, you had some moments like what
(07:07):
you had against the Falcons where he throws for almost
four hundred and fifty yards and sets a franchise record.
You have all of these game winning drives. You have
the moments where he does just what he needs to
do to beat the Cowboys to beat the Dolphins after
a slow start, and so it's still been inconsistent largely
here in twenty twenty five for everybody involved. That's still
true of the team because of the way they lost
(07:29):
two of the Saints just last week. But I'm looking
for some level of consistency, and where I find it
right now it's Bryce Young, who again was very good yesterday.
In fact, dare I say excellent. I wouldn't say he
was excellent against the Saints, but he was not the
reason they lost. And I said that all last week.
Bryce played well against the Saints. It was everything else
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that lost in that game. The week before that Bryce
was balling against the Rams, or two weeks before that
with the buye included. Yeah, that's three games of Dan
left good quarterback play from Bryce Young, and here are
the Panthers above five hundred in large part because of
the way that he played. That's what we've wanted to
see here as Panthers fans. That's what we're getting, and
now we have a shot to win the title. Yeah,
(08:13):
I mean I was, I was semi rooting, you know,
for the Panthers. While I was sitting there watching the game.
I was popping off in my house when I was
watching Bryce do what he does. I did after the
touchdown to j T. Sanders when he used his creativity,
his magic back then in the pocket.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
I was like, go ahead and get rid of him.
I was like, go ahead. I said that to nobody
in my house. I was saying, I said, go ahead,
trade him somewhere else, let him go, because I mean, yeah,
he has been playing really well and it's just to me,
for him, it's going to get better just the better
things get around him. And it's just amazing what competency
and a few weapons will do for you, you know,
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for him, and they had moments. But the thing is
is that you know, this is a guy that you
want in your locker room, you want leading a team
because he's going to display that football character. He's going
to be a guy that going to you know, kind
of autocorrect, so to speak. Because each time he's had
a bad game, you could see it on him. He
wore it and then he come out, he comes out
the next week and he plays much much better. But yeah,
(09:12):
for Bryce Shing yesterday, he was excellent. He did exactly
what offense called for. He was definitely every single play
that they needed him to make. It was a total
team effort for the Panthers yesterday to get this wint.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So continuing to highlight the last three games for Bryce
since throwing two interceptions against the forty nine ers on
Monday Night Football, This dad coming in from Edgar Salmingo Junior.
Find him on Twitter at Panthers Analyst. He's a great
Panthers follow. Most of you probably do already follow him.
Since that game against San fran Bryce has gone three
straight games without a turnover and he's totaled five hundred
and sixty passing yards ninety two rushing yards, which has
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been a big aspect of his game. Each of the
last three contests, six passing touchdowns, zero interceptions. The Panthers
are two and one during that stretch. Again, the loss.
I don't put a lot of that on Bryce.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I don't know how much at all that I put
on Bryce. There's a mis to tam mac okay. I
also can't ask him to be pinpoint perfect every single
throw that he ever attempts. So there was that throw
that was a miss. Also, I don't put a lot
of that on Bryce. I put a lot of this
win on Bryce. I put a lot of the win
on the way teamak responded in big moments, Jalen Cocher
(10:19):
beating his guy off of the line, where Bryce puts
it on a dime to set up Ryan Fitzgerald for
a game winning field goal. Lathan Ransom is a hero
of the game after as Dave Newton said a million
different times, which is hilarious. I don't know if anybody
caught this from David Newton's coverage from goat it's a
hero the bad kind of goat is what he was referencing.
(10:39):
But Ransom had the big time interception. Nick Gordon was
an absolute baller yesterday. There were lots of people involved,
in large part because of all of what those guys
did they won this one. But Bryce man like, if
we want to go into this season, I think most
people would agree that the thing you needed to see
the most was Bryce proved that he could be the
franchise quarterback on a large sample size. And even still,
(11:03):
we do have to put in some of the stretch
caveats from this week on out, from that week on out, okay,
but largely Bryce has been good and certainly in the
victories you've seen him be a big reason as to
why they won, especially with all of the game winning
drives that you have to total from his young time
still in the NFL. And so we can focus on
a bunch of different things today, and we are going
(11:24):
to Jaro Vero. I thought had a nice bounce back game.
Dave Canalis. I thought his play calling was quite nice,
taking shots downfield. Also sticking to the run, even if
it wasn't great, you're still stuck to it to where
the defense had to respect it. But man, I just
feel so good the way that Bryce is trending right now.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, you have to. And this is the guy too.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You look at the comebacks, you look at him just
able to consistently. If that's one thing he's consistently done
this season is if the Panthers have a chance to
come back and tie a game or win it late
in the game, he's been able to do that. As evidence,
he had his twelfth career game winning drive and he
had his sixth of this season. So that's another thing
that I think really bodes well for this team. And
(12:04):
we're going to get into the topic later, but this
is a guy that in the playoffs that's exact exactly
what you're looking for, because those are the quarterbacks that win.
The majority of these NFL games come down to one
score games, and do you have that guy that can
either put you ahead to win or a guy that
can come back and tie the game for you, just
simply a guy that can get it done when you
absolutely got to have it in those gotta have it moments.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
And so for him to come out in this game.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
With these stakes played the way that he did, this
is what he was bred to do.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
It's been his whole life. He's played in nothing but
big games.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So you know, I wasn't necessarily surprised by the quality
of his play.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
People are still writing it on the FanDuel text line.
You can too, people join in on the fund seven
oh four to five seven oh ninety six ten. The
number for the fandual text line is seven oh four
five seven oh ninety six ten.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Rough and Rugged. Rachel.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
She just sent in the fire Elmo, which is a
great Jeff one of the goats of all time in
my opinion. I once I think it was Doug Brands
and his wife who said fiery Lmo does numbers. I
agree with that. You put him out there. He'll get
a bunch of likes and retweets.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Truck or t.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Says We're still alive, baby, keep pounding. Just lots of
hype text coming in on the FanDuel text line. Cucumber
Tim says, awesome game, awesome win. One thought I had
during the game was, well, I will say it is
time to turn Excel into a tight end. Put him
on the Kelvin Benjamin Diet put him at tight end.
That's unk Tim or unc Tim. I'm not sure. Kind
(13:28):
of like unk Tim to be honest with you a
little better. Yeah, Excel probably not one of the reasons
that we're celebrating this victory after a couple of bad
plays from him. Lots of Carolina Reaper text coming in.
It feels like the Carolina Reaper nickname. This is the
game that really sends it off because it is getting
a lot of national attention. They had the graphic on
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the Brocas yesterday, so we've known about it around here.
This isn't original, this isn't new calling him the Carolina Reaper.
I do feel like this is the game that might
have it catch on a little more.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Nash.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah, that's the thing I never felt like it really
stuck like that. I felt like it was just something
that you heard, you know, a small contingent of people saying,
but now this might become a thing, and it is
a great nickname.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's excellent.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Malvo says, think y'all have praising Bryce a little too much.
He's a game manager, you know, and say, that's worth
how I praise.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
But that's me.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
He's not turned it over. But I don't think he
can carry this team like a number one overall drafted
QB should. So you you heard all of the groaning
and the moaning and the exasperation in the background from
one Western flounder. He tried to be He's like, hey,
that's just me, and I get it. I'll say this.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Man, We'll go get you another quarterback and then see
what they do.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
We just can we just not today, Like, can we
can we have this conversation later in the week if
we're going to have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
To be honest, I didn't even have to read it.
I just wanted to go back to it and say, hey,
I will people might be feeling this way. On the
opposite side, there is an overwhelming majority of people praising
Bryce Young for the way that he have that.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I'm sure I have had their share of disparaging comments
towards number nine.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, and that's honestly same like I have too.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
I've had my frustrations because I try to call it
like I see it on the field and if.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
I mean yeah, but not to the degree of some
of the Texas. Get him out of town. He's trash.
He'll never be this that when he's in the never Yeah,
you know, shouldn't, couldn't all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, he's looking good right now, man, and he's giving
you some confidence that he can continue this going forward.
We've got two more games to go. We'll see if
the Panthers can win the NFC South. We'll continue to
talk about this game coming up next Weston Walker Sports
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(15:47):
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injury law dot com. One call. That's all the Carolina's
personal injury lawyers Let's read some text messages on the world.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Let's let's ride, Actually, let's ride. Let's do a division title.
How about that?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Let's do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Nice, nice job speaking with your own language back there.
I like it when you use the turntables as your
own language. And so let's ride is something that Flounder
brought to the table. I appreciate that. Let's read some
text messages here, Fandle text line seven oh four, five
seven oh ninety six, ten eight to eight writes in
shout out to number sixty seven on Tampa Bay's offensive
line for giving us all of those penalty yards. Oh,
(16:33):
you ain't lying when I say it was a total
team effort. Luke Godkey was the twelfth man out on
the field for the Panthers. Instagram man, how about this,
So somebody that was on my top ten list not
on yours. Okay, hindsight looks very good for you. Hindsight
looks very bad for me for having put him on
the top ten list. I put him above my guy Temo, which,
by the way, Timo excellent in this game. But Luke Godkey,
(16:56):
to me, just slightly a better gear.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Not anymore. We do it again.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I'm putting Tmo a couple spots ahead of him, so
the grades were bad.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
But short of that, he had he had what four
penalties in this game alone?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's right good. He had four penalties. So he had
two penalties all season long coming into this game. He
had four yesterday helping out the Panthers quite a bit.
So what I thought was gonna happen? I heard them
talking about it on Charlotte Sports Today. A couple penalties
early on Ashawn Robinson. Oh my god, I thought. I
thought the penalty on the field goal was trash. The
(17:33):
first one was yeah, like face, but do you know
you can't test the center? But he fell into him? Yeah,
but you can't. No, I thought, you can't do it.
It looked like a bad call to me. He didn't
do it intentionally, It's not like the launching point. But
what they said was, God, what was the rule again
where it's you can't touch the center and he got
in between.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
And I know Mark Scelari.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Not that I not that I take everything that he
has to say as gospel. I know he thought it
was of trash as well, and that you falled into it.
It seemed like that was a bad call. If that's
if that's the letter of the rule, okay, but I
didn't think it was a good call. The other one
on A'shawn Robinson. There was two on the drive, and
I thought that one was a good call, And I
was like, all right, great, we're gonna have a bunch
(18:15):
of penalties again, just like we did against the Saints.
Is this what's going to happen here? And they're going
to be an undisciplined football team back to back weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Not the case.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It was Tampa that turned out after the fact to
be the more undisciplined team.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
Man, And that last drive, I mean, there was so
many penalties it was it was absolutely crazy. But at
the end of the day, it didn't match what happened
at the end of that Pittsburgh Detroit game. I got
you talk about penalties on that final drive, but nonetheless,
uh yeah, I mean the Panthers they had some mishaps
in Tampa as well, but you know, the Panthers, you
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still have to be proud of them being able to
stand up in a moment offensively and defensively, because that
was the thing too, because you had to be a
little bit worried there for a second if the defense
was going to give up a drive, because they would
he sent, but they had still given up their share
of yards and points, and so you felt like that
maybe if you left it in the defense's hands, that
maybe you might not come out of the other side
(19:10):
of this thing alive.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Seven oh four or five, seven oh ninety six to ten. Still,
people writing in FanDuel text line Bicycle Herd said, isn't
it wild to have a quarterback and a team that
if it's coming down to the wire, I expect them
to pull it out.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
You do feel good, I.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Te he's starting to get worried some man that if
you play against the Panthers and it comes down to
a final drive, he's starting to get that reputation where
you get a little bit worried because you know that
he's gonna make a place because, for one, you know
you already have the accuracy and a process and that's
already a part of the packete. But he's so slippery
back there, and he's so creative, and that's when he's
at his best. That's when he's at his element, when
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he's able to escape the pocket. And that's another part
about him, Like you really marsh Young really feels like
one of those quarterbacks. You really got to have him
dead the rights to get him on the ground, because
other than that he just finds a way to just
get out of there.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Play says it was leverage, that was the call. He
didn't get leverage on the play. If it leveraged, terrible
call because he didn't launch himself. That's what you're talking
about is you can't put on the back of somebody.
And Cam Chancellor did that to us where he did
it two times in a row. What was it twenty fifteen,
not twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen. I believe either way, Cam
(20:20):
Chancellor did that to us once upon a time. A
sewn did not get any leverage whatsoever. In fact, it
felt like he was falling down because he tripped over
right of the gap between the snapper and uh, the
offensive lineman next to him. So it was like, OK,
either way either way they got the win. Man, it
doesn't matter. They weren't the undisciplined team in this one.
(20:41):
I thought it was trending that direction, and then it
turned out to be the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that were
more so the undisciplined teamed. Carolina Fishfinder. He says, good game,
but still don't think Bryce is the long term guy.
All Right, we got some more price coming in. Four
says we're scrolling. We're scrolling. We got some seven oh
four numbers writing in as well. I when to read
some of these text messages, Michael says, you know, as
(21:03):
much as the defense came through, I still feel very
uneasy when we continue to have Mike Jackson lined up
on Mike Evans and they continued to play so far
off in short yardage downs, well and start handing out
some game balls if we can, shall we? Mike Jackson
I thought was good in this one, and in terms
of what the trends looked like at the beginning of
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the game, I thought that they would be really picking
on Mike jack because they lined up Mike Evans alongside
him quite a few times. The touchdown was had on
Mike Jack's watch. That's just a Hall of Fame player
making a Hall of Fame play, having the throw what
was it three yards out Baker Mayfield's touchdown pass. Mike
Evans won, but Mike jack got targeted I think eight
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times in this game.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
He gave up.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Four receptions all right, fifty percent completion percentage. It's not great,
but it was only for twelve yards. If you care
about PFF, I think he was the highest graded defender, Like,
despite being targeted so many times, which does happen quite
a bit with j C. Horn on the team. They
target Mike Jack way more than they target JC. And
in fact, there was the PI call in this one
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against j C. He wasn't targeted. There was no official
target registered for j C. Horn yesterday and in fact,
that's the first time in his career that he was
not targeted a single time outside of the PI call,
because that doesn't count with it being negated. Right, just
if you catch, if you catch a ball and then
there's PI and then it's accepted and it never happened.
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That's kind of how it happened here. But in terms
of a target officially not counting against jac Horn, they
didn't throw to him.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
They didn't throw to him at all. Yeah, he fell
asleep on that. What's the name catch a BOOKA.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Is it gonna be like this all day?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No? I just I just threw that in there. Yeah,
because he was in cover three. He's supposed to be
deep at the deepest he fell asleep about that.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
No, it's not he but watched Left brought that up.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Too, So I'm not hating on him when you brought
up his day, I just said that he fell asleep
on that cover thread.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Fair enough.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm not even trying to say that he was. I
was just putting out that they didn't give him that target.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Oh, I thought you were talking about his day in totality,
and I just wanted to make sure you threw that in.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And I appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
First, I'm not I'm not really trying. You ain't. You ain't,
but I'm bringing up a fact. That's fine.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
They did not, whoever they is, next Gen or PFF,
So two different publications did not say that he was targeted. Now,
if that was his responsibility, I actually didn't go back
and watch the tape on that one, so fair enough,
but I didn't see that that was a target. Next
Gen and PFF says he was not targeted officially in
this game outside of the p I call so J C. Horn,
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Mike Jack, I thought that they played well, not allowing
Baker Mayfield to throw for many yards the defensive line.
Nick Gorton, specifically, in my opinion, had his best day
as a Panther. Yeah, he was strong. He was very insane.
Thoughts on the game, What were some things that stuck
out to you?
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Well, I mean, for one, just the fact that I
thought that Dave Canalis. I thought he caught a really
good game. I thought he made a lot of calls
to keep Tampa Bay guessing. I thought he kept that
defense on his toes, And that was the number one
thing that I was looking for. He had a lot
of formations where he was going, you know, eleven or
ten personnel that he was you know, putting guys in
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situations where coverage could be defined, guys could win, and
they were able to make plays.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And that was the thing kind of that I wanted
to see.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It wasn't a ton of just super condensed formations and
him just trying to force the run between his two backs.
He only ran it fifteen times in this game, which
I think kind of speaks to a little bit of
the physicality of this game, because Tampa ran at thirty
three times. So when you have a team that runs
at thirty three times against you, you're not going to
get but so many possessions. So I thought that he
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made good use of it. It was a nice mix
of what he was doing. And that was the number
one thing I was looking forward to is how this
canalist called this game? Is he going to get in
his bag and really helped this offense to be able
to make plays. And I thought that he did that
tetor rower for you know some of the plays in
there that I thought because I thought for a minute
he was heading towards having a tough day when he
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had the one one hander, which I did have a
smart comment when he missed that one when he threw
the one hand that I said that like but now,
but he ended up bouncing back having a nice day.
I hate they got Coca kind of involved late when
he when he got the deep one late in the game,
I was like, man, why wouldn't he or why are
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they waiting so long before he gets involved? But other
than that, uh, Legett just had a couple more plays
that continue to make you question, you know, what his
future is gonna look like. But all in all, like
I said, I saw the Panthers in this spot and
there was you know, some adversity. I mean, Tampa Bay
comes out, they jump on them, seven three, they go
straight down the field and they score and for everything
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to be on the line. That's the thing I was
the most anxious to see. What was how did they
respond to this? What do they come out and do?
And so I was like, man, they really answered the bill,
and so I thought that that was huge for this
team going forward. I felt like that they needed that
because if it does come down to a winning your
D scenario and Tampa Bay, I think that could give
them the confidence to potentially sweep Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah, there is a shot. Part of it is because
the Panthers are playing better football right now I mean
emphasis on right now. I overall, team wise, that has
been the inconsistent problem here. After I just gave praise
to Bryce for putting three games together or each one
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of those games, I thought he was good to great
the team. I don't know how much faith you have
in the team getting the job done in these late
game situations, because there is the person that wrote in
is it weird that I feel good final drive wise
about the Panthers Now, I was like, well, you got
to be specific, because you only feel good offensively about
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this team putting it together. The defensively did feel like
they were giving up some yards and then Lathan Ransom
comes up with the pick. Because of the miscommunication between
Baker and Mike Evans, Baker scramble drill, Mike Evans thinks
he's going to break towards the middle of the field
and Baker thinks Mike Evans is going to continue to run.
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There was some luck involved, for sure. There was some
pressure to force Bryce up. Baker up the pocket and
you thought he was going to scramble, but there's also
some luck and Lathan Ransom, Johnny on the spot man
coming up with a big play bringing that ball in
to secure the victory for this team. So that was nice.
And Nick Gordon again, I just this was his best game.
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I saw Jordan Reid also talk about just the rookies overall.
Ransom with the interception, scorting with the Monster game Team
Mac with a good game. You also had Jimmy Horn
with a big play early Princely emmameling grated.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I thought we were going to remember him for a
terrible play when he ran into the kicker and they
didn't call it. That's something that should have been called.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
Yeah, that was one that that was quite intriguing. Why
that that was not because when I was sitting there
doing it, I was looking at I looked up and
I was like, yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be
a rough Well.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
It would have been offsetting, so it wouldn't have com it.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Would have been but but yeah, they should They could
have called that, which I didn't understand.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
When Perreira was like, it would have been running into
and not roughing like he hit him.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I thought it was running. Well, roughing is when I
thought he hit the kick.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
He hit the kicker leg on that side, and then
I mean it was it was.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Firm contact, but you're going roughing on that one. I
thought it was.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But when he said that, I was like, okay, because
I thought, you know, running into is like where you
nip him a little bit and you might cause him
to fall a little bit. But I thought when you
made big contact like that, that was automatic roughing.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
That's what I thought. There was a couple of the refs.
It was a talking point yesterday. There was a few
tough points just so yeah, like I I feel like
I'm pretty.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Damn objective with the officials.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
They missed a call on Princely, Like just like I
thought it was bad on a shan It wasn't leverage.
According to somebody here, it was running in, which would
make more sense as to why they would call it
against Ashan Robinson. But the Princely Uman Millen non call
was helpful to us.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
The Yoshneiman non call the call that was a very
clear hold that they didn't call. But hey man, those
are the breaks, then's the breaks?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Them's the breaks? Is do you have to say it
like that? Yes?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I agree. You can't say those are the breaks. You
sound lame. Them's the breaks? You know football if you
say them's the breaks. But that's how it is, just Carolina.
They took advantage of some of the opportunities they were given.
It was funny that Princely though on Twitter said I
fudged up guys, sorry, like he acknowledged, Yeah, I messed up.
And so he's he continues to be a fun social
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media presence. But Jordan reed talking about the rookies, that's
what allows you to feel good about this team in
the now and the long term, that these rookies as
a class, they're getting a decent amount of play from them,
like even Uman Meellen, who had had a great year,
um and meel and is as the third round pick.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
What probably I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
If you count Fitzgerald is a rookie, he's probably the
fifth most impactful if you go t mac scorting like
Jimmy hornons spots, who Man Meellen in spots. Mitchell Evans,
I would say has been more impactful than new Man
Meellen overall this year.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Rookie.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
You can go down the list and you can point
to guys that have contributed in big spots and in
this game specifically, they contributed.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah, and I think that those up foundational pieces for
you going forward, and that's what you want out of
your draft class because again, you want to be able
to shorten the grocery list each season for what you
need to cook that meal, playing and simple. So it's
like at the beginning of the year when they were struggling,
we felt like, man, they may be right back in
the same place that they were as far as having
a draft similar positions to what you had drafted the
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year before. But now that you're seeing guys step up,
you're starting to see what they have. That's how your
organization continues to get better. That's how you build depth
is through drafts like this one where you can hit
on four or five guys.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
So now you go back in and.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
You can start addressing other areas because you've already taken care.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
How much do the coaches get credit for this one?
Speaker 1 (31:09):
In Dave Canalis and Avero for the game plans that
they had really all game long, but even in crunch
time where the offense delivered defense classic man ben don't
break and they bent a little bit on that final
drive and Baker Mayfield through an interception to.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Let them off. The hook seems strong, but.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I guess even still, I'll go ahead and put that
comment forward let him off.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
Though you could somewhat say that because of the fact
it was veteran players that made that mistake, because Mike Evans.
He thought Mike Evans was gonna break outside and he
broke inside, and that's not something you typically see between
those two.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
They normally have great chemistry.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
So you could just say it's a gift from the
football guys for you to be able to get it.
I mean, for you to be able to win stuff,
win championships, division, super Bowl, no matter what it is.
You need some good fortune man or people call it luck.
Whatever you want to call it, but you need it sometimes,
and sometimes you might need a veteran receiver that doesn't
normally fudge up.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
You fudge up.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's what happened with Mike Evans right there, and you
were able to have Leathan Ransom to have the awareness
to be Johnny on the spot to be able to
pick that ball up, especially after he got called for
the late hit.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
It was absolutely the correct call on Chuck, which is
why it was so frustrating. We didn't see any Panthers
fans mad at the officials in that specific moment. It
was really, hey, Ransom, rookie mistake. Usually when you make
mistakes as a first year player, it's only a rookie mistake.
If you make mistakes as a veteran, it's just a mistake.
It's just anyways's rookie mistake. You're still allowed to have those,
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right because you'll get rid of those. You'll never be
penalized again as we move forward. But Leith and Ransom
bad play going after the quarterback. The Saints designed it
that way, and Ransom got picked on in that regard
the fact that he has a big play to help
the Panthers get a victory. After what happened last week,
I just feel really good for him. And then if
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you go down the list, Ransom deserves some credit score
and deserves credit J C.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Horn.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
I had the good play against the run. I will
say that wasn't targeted except for I know you say
that it was his fault on cover three. There's somebody
else on the text line that agrees with you.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
There.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
There also is the p I call on him, which
you know the PI called it. PI this weekend was
a hell of a storyline all across wild PI storyline
this weekend, especially with the Lions game. There are a
couple other games it showed up as well.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
The New England one that went on called last Night,
Oh my God, that was unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Chris Collinsworth and Mike Rico legitimately did not know what
to say. They they had no clue how to respond
to a dude boutie boute booty however you want to
say it, getting tackled and just no, that's fine, it's okay.
That was a rough moment for the rafts man. This
is NFL blizz, rub some dirt on it. Get back
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to the lonest Grimmage. We're playing football. That's how those
guys called it at the end. Either way, any other
game balls you'd want to get? If Bryce is the
clear and obvious choice, is there anybody else that you
feel like, maybe an undersung hero of as to why
the Panthers were able to pull this one up?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh, that's up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I think some credits should be given the Christian rose
bowm because he may not be that great in coverage, yeah,
but he's been a hall raised around that line of scrimmage. Man,
He's had consecutive games with sacks. He had a sack
and a tackle for lost yesterday. He's a menace when
they send him on blitzes. So you know, he definitely,
you know, has his faults in past coverage, but as
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I've said that he's been he's been a hal raiser
around the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah, Christian Roseboom good enough to help you out.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You know. Again, remember no Trevin Wallace in this game
as well. So if you look at the way that
the linebackers played overall, you had Christian rose Boom come in.
Grades weren't great, but tackling was good for him. You
had Claude and chair Lists suit up and I thought
played solid football. I played solid enough, which is all
you can ask for from a backup. And if you
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play solid enough football, honestly, on this team, it's about
all you can ask for from the starters, let alone
the backups. So plenty of love going all around. People
do like the Derek Brown speech after the game and
this one saying we're not done yet, and the all
two you know, so a fun Derek Brown weekly tradition
is watching Baldy highlight them.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
And it's also when the Panthers win.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I guess it's a bi weekly tradition because the Panthers
don't string wins together. What they do is they win
every other week. But after every win, Derek Brown is
going to have a profanity leaden victory speech at the
end is saying we're not done and we need to
keep our foot on the gas as he should. And
there's so many different bleepouts in the speech. But the
Panther how how worried is the Panther social media team
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putting that video out every time just making sure they
bleeped every single curse word.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
I'm saying they go over it any times, meticulous.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Flounder, would you feel a little nervous putting that one
out there.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
Of course, of course, anytime you're working with a piece
of audio where you've got multiple bleeps, you're always the
when you first play it, you're always going to be
saying to yourself, oh, I probably missed one and they
luckily they didn't.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Unsung heroes.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
By the way, people saying Fitzgerald deserves credit, absolutely got
the game winning field goal kicker, get some credit. We
also have people saying that Todd Bowles should get credit
for the Panthers out. Oh cook, a couple couple bucks
getting some credit for the Panthers win today on Victory Monday.
All right, we'll take a quick break, we'll come back.
We'll continue to talk about Bryce Young. Does his late
game heroics make them the perfect playoff quarterback? Not a
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good one, but a perfect one. We'll get to that
coming up next on West and Walker.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Welcome back, folks.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
This is the West and Walker Show Sports Rebbio ninety
two seven. W n Z Panthers get to win twenty
three to twenty over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we've
been going through it. You guys have been sharing your
thoughts on the FANDU text line seven on four, five, seven,
ninety six ten, keep them coming. A lot of good
vibes there as well, and Walker Te's did when we
were going to the break. But Bryce Young and his
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late game heroics is starting to become a thing in
national pundits, and you're starting to see it on broadcast now,
and they're starting to really talk about the fact that
this guy is a late game player when you talk
about plays that happened in clutch time. And so he
leads a seven play, forty three yard drive in the
final five minutes of the game to set up the
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forty eight yard field goal by Ryan Fitzgerald, and that
marked the twelfth career game winning drive by Bryce Young,
the most in the NFL since twenty twenty three and
the second most ever by quarterback under the age of
twenty five. Only Justin Herbert, who has thirteen of those drives,
has more of those. And then he's got six game
winning drives this season, which are tied with other young
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quarterbacks Bo Knicks and Caleb Williams for the most in
the NFL. And one thing before we get started digging
into this is when people are talking about how they
don't necessarily steal see Bryce, you know, as a franchise quarterback,
or see him as the guy to be able to
lead this team, or you know how some of his
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statistics are kind of segmented into different things.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
But really, and a topic that we will get into eventually.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
When we've been talking about how the passing yardage is down,
offenses aren't putting up as guarding numbers as they once did.
And so that's the thing, like, you can't really point
to many quarterbacks this season, if really any, that have
just been playing great football weekend and week out. Everybody
has had their kind of dry spell, so to speak.
Even you look at Josh Allen, he had weeks where
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he was struggling with the turnovers. We remember early in
the year when they lost a couple of games in
a row to Atlanta. I forget who else it was
that they lost to, and he wasn't playing great. Matthew
Stafford had a bad game right here in Bank of
America Stadium. He had probably been playing the most consistent
out of a lot of guys. But I feel like
tons of quarterbacks this year, even the top tier guys,
and we already know the struggles that Patrick Mahomes has
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had this year that it hasn't really been any quarterbacks
that's been through and through every week just been super
consistent with their play.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I would say Stafford is pretty damn close. He had
two turnovers against the Panthers or maybe three totals. Alrighty
had two picks and then he had the fumble. So
Stafford only still has five interceptions, right, like staff You're
not wrong, Like still the stats aren't as fruitful as
they once were. Stafford's going to throw for a bunch
of yards. Dak Prescott, He's gonna throw for a bunch
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of yards. Jared Goff's going to get to probably what
four forty five hundred something like that. You still have
some of those qbs reaching some pretty impressive numbers.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
People keep I think what we've.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Done, especially watching Drake may last night, who famously now
got to three hundred do so the first time this season.
I think that took people by surprise. Drake may Waite,
he's MVP runner up, MVP favorite in some people's minds,
and last night was the first time that he's thrown
for three hundred yards. Well, that just shows that nobody's
really thrown for that much fair He is fourth in
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the NFL in passing yards this season after just the
one three hundred yarder like he had been to ninety
to seventy, been pretty consistently in the higher two hundreds.
Bryce's twentieth and total passing yards this year. Now the
question becomes, Hey, we don't need to put all the
stock in the world into the lack of passing yards
and we can still say Bryce has the goods to
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continue this journey. Bryce is good enough right now with
the game winning drives, the clutch time performances, the big
time throws on those final drives, the pinpoint accuracy that
we've seen much more in my opinion, the last half
of the season than we did the first half. That's
all the stuff I need to see to say clearly,
you're picking up the fifth year option, and look, we'll
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figure out what those long term extensions look like. That's
going to be still a pretty interesting back and forth.
I don't know how contentious it's going to be anymore,
but it's going to be an interesting back and forth.
And he's been playing very well the last three week.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, coming into this week's games, if you looked at
the guys in the top five, who do have the
higher ends of yards. There's only four on pace to
throw for four thousand because Patrick Mahomes got hurt. But
Dak Prescott, Stafford Golf and Drake may coming into the
games this week if they stuck to their averages with
what they had coming in with the only guy set
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to be able to hit that mark. But again going
back to Bryce Young and what he's been able to
do with his late game heroics, and you feel like
that this Panthers team and we know that they've been
up and down. We saw the cute little graphic they
had with that with the seesaw. Did you like that
one that they had for the Panthers talking about their
up and down season?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I tell you I appreciate it because I myself have
been looking for other examples outside of roller coasters, and
I'm glad that they came up with the seesaw. Not
that it was riveting or rocket science, but I'm just
glad he gave me something else other than a Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
So when you look at that and you say, you know,
what do you want in a quarterback in a playoff
scenario and we are talking about right now, what kind
of in a place where you know, all these quarterbacks
are throwing for three hundred and three fifty even two
seventy five, two eighty on a weekly basis. So if
you are going to have a quarterback that's going to
be thrown for less than hell two twenty two forty,
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whatever you want to say with Bryce Young, but he's
got the ability to be able to make the plays
when it absolutely matters for his football team, and I
think that really bodes well for him.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Imft.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
The Panthers are to get into the playoffs, and I
think that that's a huge asset to have on your side. Now,
the guys that I talked about having the game winning
drives this year, they're young Bucks themselves and bow Knicks
and Caleb Williams. But I think for Bryce Young, the maturity,
everything that he's been through, I think that this makes him, uh,
you know, a really really great quarterback to have. And
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I know I put perfect for the hyperle hyperbole, and
I won't necessarily call him perfect today, but I do
think that this makes him Taylor May for the playoffs
because of the fact that he's not afraid of the moment.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
No, he's not afraid of the moment at all. The yardage.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Maybe it comes at a higher level as he grows up.
I would like to see it. I'd like to see
more yardage for him. I think that means better things
for the offense. I think that means better things for
Bryce Young. One thing that is inherently true. We can
try to turn all these arguments against one another as
much as we can, right but one thing that will
immediately go to Let's say we have a debate about
a quarterback. What's one thing you immediately start to do.
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You pull up Pro Football Reference, you pull up Pro
Football Focus. And with quarterbacks, we don't bring grades up
as much, but we'll bring up the yardage downfield, and
then we'll start to make up all these arguments based
on what kind of stat that we're trying to prove
our point. But all reality is, if we want to
get back to the basics, people do start to look
at this stuff quite a bit. And if you don't
have a lot of throwing yards, well then do you
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help in other ways? Like Cam who got to four
thousand yards one time in his career, but he also
is maybe the best red zone threat of all time,
certainly goal line threat of all time. Josh Allen, same thing,
Lamar Jackson, same thing. What I equate Bryce Young's success to.
It's kind of hard to find guys that don't have
the crazy wow stats passing that we consider great quarterbacks,
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like at least in the modern era. Like we can
go back and we can people can say Troy Aikman
overrated all that stuff, right, Russell Wilson throwing wise, is
what I look at with Bryce Young right now, who
didn't have the crazy throwing season. Ever, he only topped
four thousand yards four times in his NFL career. He
topped forty two hundred yards twice, and it was pretty
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similar once in twenty sixteen, once in twenty twenty. Coincidence
that a guy that spent so many years in Seattle
and now he's the head coach of Carolina, he has
two smaller sized quarterbacks that have similar ceilings in terms
of yardages throwing the football. No, I don't think it's
that much of a coincidence. In fact, I think that
with all he's talked about taking bits and pieces of
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the Pete Carroll's system and applying it here, it makes
a lot of sense that we would see Bryce Young's
throwing totals mirror a lot of what I think we're
going to see from Russell and what we did see
early on in Russell's career thirty one hundred, thirty three hundred,
and thirty four hundred for Bryce for Russell his first
three years. I think that's the kind of passing trajectory
that you potentially see with Bryce Yaw.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
And So when you look at.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
The quarterbacks that I talked about that have had the
comebacks this year, and those guys look to be playoff
quarterbacks in their own right, do you feel like that
because of this, that that he could be the most
bankable because we know, you know, the guys, the Staffords
in some of those vets, the parties, guys that have
been to the Super Bowls and all of that stuff.
But other than that, would he be up there in
the top. Maybe I'd take three four quarterbacks that you
(45:45):
would trust in the playoffs based off the playoff picture today,
because I mean, you got Josh Allen sitting there, you
got Mats Stafford, we know that Brock Party's been to
Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts, all right, So that's four, but
they're out of the rest of those guys, I feel
like that, then you have to start getting it all right, Well,
if we put him here or put him there, this,
that and the third. But I would certainly put Bryce
Young up in the mix as one of the guys
(46:06):
I would trust the most in the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well, yeah, in the playoffs right now, I guess this
means it's a weird year. Jared Goff's not going to
be there. Do you trust Bryce more than golf? Pat
Mahomes clearly is injured and he's not going to be there.
So I think we would all go with Pat Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
Over a guy as they have it right now.
Speaker 3 (46:21):
You got Yeah Rams playing the Panthers, and you got
forty nine Ers, Philly Green, Bayed, Chicago, Seattle, Denver Chargers, Steelers, Bills, Jaguars, Texans, Patriots.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
So NFC, where do you put Jalen Hurts? No, I
got yeah, the playoff is.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
If I were to ranked the NFC quarterbacks, I would
probably go Stafford one. I would give Jalen Hurts his
due because he has been to the Super Bowl and
he has played well in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
This is his whole thing, is that he shows up
in big moment. Yeah, I'd give him that.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Then I'd put Party behind those guys because he hasn't
won one figure, And then I'd probably go Bryce.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
You over Jordan Love over Caleb Williams, so so forth.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
In the NFC, Sam Donald, Yeah, yeah, I Sam Donald,
I's not gonna go over Bryce him.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you. Are you?
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Did you put Sam Donald above Bryce and trusting him?
I can't, man, I know Bryce hadn't done it, but
I don't know, Man, I wouldn't. I got to see
it in the post. I wouldn't trust Sam Donald love
of Bryce.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
You, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
I mean, that's a tough one because he's been so good. Yeah,
and he did just come up with a monster second
half against the Rams, or fourth quarter against the Rams,
but we've also seen him falter in the postseason. We
just haven't seen him, you know, we haven't seen Bryce
at all.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
And this is why it could be such a chaotic
postseason is because there are not that many guys that
you actually trust in these scenarios.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
So yeah, I mean maybe.
Speaker 3 (47:51):
It's a Yeah, it's a lot of good, really good
quarterbacks that's gonna be in a playoffs. They're just unproven
in the situations or you have guys that only have
one and win, like a Trevor Lawrence, or you know
how many want CJ. Strot S got one two. Yeah,
so guys who aren't as seasoned yet. But it's just
(48:11):
my belief in Bryce and what he brings to the table.
All Right, when we come back, folks, we're gonna talk
about CFP. What did we learn this weekend? On Sports
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