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I appreciate it. I'm I'm damn excited. Were you just
taking it all in with ECU and NC State giving
us that drunkness at the end of that game last night?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, man, it was very exciting.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I was hoping I found myself rooting for ECU because
I wanted some late game drama.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So I was sitting there just so frustrated.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I expected it to be a dog fight, and so uh.
It was just fun to be able to watch football
every year. That feeling has never left because when football
season is done, you miss it so much that when
you're starting to watch it for that first week, it's
almost like you can't believe that it's happening again, Like
you sitting there, like, man, I'm so glad to be
sitting here watching football.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That's what I said to myself last night. I thought
the same, Yeah, just everything. I think. When did it
hit me the most?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I think my first like football horny play was CJ.
Bailey rolling to his right and completing that running pass
to the sideline, and it was our first big time
Oh he looks good.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And by the way, it's CJ. Bailey.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I know it was a close game. I know we
had the mistake, but I'm kind of all in on
CJ Y. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, all right, we'll talk about it. Maybe you not.
I am.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I'm in on it, so I might have some disagreement.
I'm hoping to be all in on Charlotte. After tonight's game. Yeah,
seven o'clock kick, they'll play the Appalachian State Mountaineers. We
still don't know who's going to start at QB for
app State. Little bit of gamesmanship going on, of course
with Dal Loggins, I would have to imagine that it's
going to be aj Swan that's going to be starting
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at QB for them. But I guess maybe in practice
you can see JJ Cole come out and win that
job all of its gamesmanship though, right like, we only
have experience from one QB that's really in contention for starting,
and so maybe Tim Albyn and Charlotte is leaning that
way in preparation. You don't want to get caught with
your pants down. I think that's a monster, of course,
key to the game when you're talking about the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
But we talked with Tim yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
We didn't really get a chance to recap with everything
going on, we still got a lot to get to
today as well with college football last night today over
the weekend, Dan Morgan had an excellent interview with Kyle
by the Way yesterday. Don't check it out over the
next six hours or even with the broadcast for Charlotte tonight,
but check it out Saturday morning, make it your Saturday
morning appointment radio, and then go ahead and listen to
(03:24):
it on WFNZ dot com. So we got a lot
of stuff to get to, but recapping what Tim Albin
had to say to us yesterday, any takeaways on the
vibes of what he's feeling going into this season, the style,
stopping the run, Connor Harrell being starting QB.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
What were your thoughts?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
And the biggest thing I took away was the fact
that he did hint at the prospect of us seeing
all three quarterbacks during this season, and I thought for
Sean and I said, oh, brother, that's not what they
want to hear coming into the season opener. But it
seemed like he was fairly confident and Connor Harrol until
you know that was said, but other than that, it
(04:00):
was like a god that's very excited. We know that
he is a program builder, and so I think at
the end of the day. Regardless if you do see
all three quarterbacks or not, you have to feel confident
with the track record that he's established as the coaster
he is, and this is going to be a great
game and a great barometer to let you know kind
of where you're at right now.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, and I think too, if.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
You go back and you see some of those teams
constructed the way they were at Ohio, perhaps you got
a little bit of foreshadowing on what kind of quarterback
he wants to play. Duel threat, He cares about running quarterbacks.
He likes the athleticism. We just thought Grayson Loftis was
clearing away the better thrower of the football that it
didn't matter just how much how athletic Connor Harold was.
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But it seems like the leadership too. He's done the
whole I'm staying after practice thing. There's been some videos
of him doing that and really exemplifying being a leader.
And so Connor Harold is going to be the starting QB.
I hope that we don't do the three qbs thing
and we don't know who our passer is the whole season.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
We got like three kings, but we don't like three QBS.
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Speaker 2 (06:02):
Shop dog, let's get off the bus. We looked good
getting off the bus.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Alrighty West NC State. They got the win, but it
was not pretty. It came down to a fourth and
one stop by NC State last night and they get
the victory over ECU.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
What were your.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Thoughts watching all of that unfold the way that it
did with just a one score win despite a big
spread coming into US.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I thought that in the first half, when East Carolina
was a pure abomination, I thought that NC State broke
the cardinal rule. They were supposed to put East Carolina
away in the first half, and when they didn't do that,
I knew at some point that the levee was going
to break and that East Carolina was going to start
to make plays that were going to start to get
more confident. And so if you're an NC State fan,
(06:53):
you're definitely worried about your pass defense right now. Three
hundred and eighty three yards you give up to East
Carolina a big play after big play.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I hated that fourth and one play call that they made.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I knew State was gonna find a way to pull
something out of their keyster on that fourth and one.
I just knew East Carolina was gonna blow it, and
that play call I thought was not great. I thought
maybe they should have tried to run it one more time.
I get it that they didn't get it the first time,
but I thought, maybe you try again and maybe you
break through. At the end of the day, Yes, they
did get the victory, but it was about what I
thought from NC State. I thought it was offense that
(07:26):
was pretty mid as the kids like to say. The
offense really started to ball down as the game went on,
and they got some big plays from their receivers. They
got some chunk plays, which is something that had been
missing from this offense last year. So I think you
can take that and be confident about that one. Wesley
Grimes had the big touchdown catch in the first half.
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Hoffman had the big catch down the sideline when they
really needed it, but I thought man and then the
puzzling play call when they run a quarterback power on
third down. I was pretty confused as to why they
called that with the way that CJ. Bailey was throwing
the ball end of the day, this NC State team
looked about what I thought that they would. They only
surrendered thirty rushing yards to East Carolina, so there's that,
(08:08):
but that passing secondary they got lit up, and I
thought the offense, like I said, they really started to
bog down once East Carolina settled in.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I think the story of this game is twofold. You
either watching it from an NC State lens. You either
look at CJ. Bailey and maybe you disagree with this,
but this was my takeaway. You either watched CJ. Bailey
and for the most part, come away with thinking, oh,
we have an awesome quarterback again, or you come away
from this game thinking, my god, we had this victory
(08:39):
in the bag. Then we allowed ECU to score as
much as they did with that ten point fourth It
was almost a seventeen point fourth quarter, maybe eighteen point
fourth quarter with a two point conversion that they might
have gone for. I think they probably would have had
they ended up tying it. So anyways, you could either
feel great about what CJ. Bailey showed you or you
could feel worse about what you saw as a whole
(09:00):
from NC State almost giving it up to the team
that beat you in a bowl game last year. This
was a game that you were supposed to have so
much pride coming into. Oh they beat us in a
bowl game. We're not gonna let that happen. We ended
up fighting them now, man, we got to put our
foot on their throats and end this thing. And they
didn't do that. In fact, they let them off the
hook in his green style. How do you feel if
you're an NC State fan watching.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Well after they scored their second touchdown, they went empty
seven out of eight drives.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And also too, you got to be pretty nervous about.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
That kicking game, okay, because he missed two kicks badly
and they were kicks that a power for college kickers
should make. So, like I said, there were some flaws
exposed in this game.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
CJ. Bailey had a bad.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Interception, he almost threw one or two more, and some
other parts of this game. So again, East Carolina gave
teams a little bit of a blueprint because they really
did a good job against their run. Hollywood's Mothers had
a couple of nice games, but other than that, East
Carolina kind of dominated them up front when they tried
to run the football on them.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
CJ.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Bailey had to hit some of those big chunk But again,
seven out of your eight drives were empty after you
scored a second touchdown. And again, you know the special
teams aspect that this is rough too, because you feel
like if you have an offense that kind of is
still trying to work itself into shape. It doesn't help
when you're missing kicks two back to back miss field goals.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
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Speaker 4 (10:22):
They were about ready to five during last night. You
could feel it, you feeling.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
It's not like it's not like they're not ready to
fire him this time. I don't feel I don't know
if those feelings have subsided wolf Pack James Wrights in,
we're scrolling.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
We're scrolling.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
He did say past defense and run blocking that was
horrendous last night. I was talking about it with Flounder
before we hopped on the mic. I like Hollywood smothers.
You know, it's interesting. I feel last year watching that
run game be terrible against Western Carolina, I was all
sorts of concerned all across the board. I didn't think
Jordan Waters was very good last year, and I know
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a lot of that was because the offensive line was
pretty terrible. I didn't think I saw a whole bunch
from Jordan Waters that made me think, Okay, he can
break a couple of tackles and make the best of this.
I like what Hollywood's Mothers actually showed me last night.
I thought he was fighting. I thought there was some
nice moves on the outside that allowed him to pick
up a couple of extra yards.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
I like what you have there.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
And also comparing this close victory against the team that
is beneath you, not Western beneath you, but still supposed
to be supposed to be beneath you, I feel much
better about the quarterback than I did what I saw
last year. With their transfer coming in from a call,
I think that's for me. You can get a little
closer to just brushing this off your shoulder as oh, well,
(11:38):
it's the opener. It's a close game every single one
of these, even good teams, we'll go through these close
victories before they really iron things out the rest of
the way. I'm not as concerned about NC State this
go around. As much as I was last year against Western.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, and that uh, I don't know, man, because I
think that when you look at him, they had the
makings of a team. I saw some State fans saying
after the game. I saw one comment in particular where
he said, six six win team incoming, just enough to keep.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Dave Dorn's job.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And when you watch this team last night, that's kind
of the feeling that you got. Because I go off
of how do I feel, man? How do I feel
when I watch you? When I watch your offense? Do
I feel intimidated? When I watch your defense? Do I
see things that make me go oh, man? Like this
team really has got potential, even if you have some snaffoos.
And so for the NC State offense, once again, I
just felt like, Okay, this is the East Carolina defense.
(12:31):
Who knows how good they will be, But I don't
think that they'll be great. They're not going to be
up there as a top twenty twenty five defense.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
I don't see that.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
So I'm like, Okay, how does this offense project against
a better defensive unit?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm not sure how good they will be.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
And then defensively, like I said, East Carolina's quarterback was
unconscious down to stretch of that game. I mean he
was hitting third and longs of me. I remember, I
think they got a Lakhauser. And also, to you gotta
look at the fact that, let's be honest here, you
win the game by seven, how many horrible pennes the
East Carolina half. East Carolina had turnovers, they had penalties,
(13:04):
they had a lot of things. That's why I said
that they should have put this game and tucked it
away in the first half.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
So I think you have to be alarm by that.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
If you're an East Carolina fan, you're just like, man,
if we just could have gotten a few of those
jobs back and maybe turn the tide on some of
those stupid penalties, this could have been a much different game.
But at the end of the day, you did get
a win. A win is a win, and all you
can do now is move on and be one and
Oh and his coaches love to say go one and
O the next week.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I thought Joe Ovius and Joe Jillio, specifically Jilli Oh
with the line last night talking about it on their podcast.
Joe Jillio said NC State won, but Dave Jordan lost.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Sir, Yeah, he would sit down. Man, he had god
to look on his face, but I knew he could
feel it.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Man. Those fans were sitting there like, boy, if you
lose this game before we go to break, we need
to stop beating around the bush. How you feel about CJ.
Bailey twenty four thirty four completion, two attempts, three hundred
and eighteen yards, had the one touchdown? Looked great in
the first half, had the interception did come back? Everybody
was lauding him as a leader. Dave cost And said
(14:05):
at about thirteen different times in broadcast last night for
the ACC Network, how.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Are you thineling about CJ. Bailey?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I thought he looked decent, That's all. Like I said
about him. You know, if I was the greatest performance,
I will probably go C plus and like a lot
of the dancing before the game was over with because
you played okay, But he said, not be dancing like
it's a party.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I'm like, you're a fan of that, and you were like,
and I do, like you know, I'm a trash talker.
I like the show boat.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
But I'm sitting there like, dude, y'all did not play
that great, Like, why are you acting like you out
here dropping forty five tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I'm not gonna he's got potential. There's something, so I'll
give you. I'll give you some spicy. Yeah, he'll be
an NFL draft pick.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
I could.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I could see that for sure. Tools he's six', six
he can. MOVE i like him bouncing off the defender
for that touch. Run like he's okay with contact running the.
FOOTBALL i like him a lot with. You so every
once in a WHILE i take off with some of
THESE Nc State BUT i.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Like them too because remember the off, SEASON i SAID
i thought C. J bailey was going to establish himself
as the. Guy So i'm not saying. THAT i just
thought last. Night SO i think what you're saying is.
Fair What I'm i'm saying what you're saying is. Fair
and What i'm saying Is i'm ready to take off
a little.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Irrationally, yeah Like I'm i'm with all Acc i'm With
i'm ready FOR. Cj bailey to take. OFF Nc State.
Walker apologies. Flounder he wants to punch me in the.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Face he's, Back, hey you WERE Nc State walker last.
Year enjoy.
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It maybe hugged me Because i'm back on THE Nc state,
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Have Wolfpac james writing it. Again i'm not overly alarmed
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by last night's. GAME i didn't have high expectations though
there's a lot of new with this, team especially on
the offensive line and the. DEFENSE cj can sling it
and it's surrounded by. Weapons So i'm confident in this.
Offense so he's, okay seven oh four is writing IN.
Cj bailey is going to be AN nfl draft. Pick question,
mark question, Mark and then he sent me The Charlie
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Speaker 2 (19:00):
Show it's not, laughable, right, YEAH i think.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
So.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
YEAH i thought maybe it was a little, spicy but
then when you, said, no we can tone that.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Down it's just a.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Mild it's like a one star at your favorite tide. Restaurant,
OKAY i thought maybe it was a. Two but, ANYWAYS
i thought it was a tiny bit. Spicy i'm a fan,
though real, quickly speaking of acc, quarterbacks let's just go
With Darian vince's performance last. Night duke did get the
victory over elon slow. Start, yeah not great going into,
halftime little, scary and then the offense got cooking in
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the second. Half fourteen points in the, third twenty one
in the. Fourth, again that score was forty ten, seventeen
did not, cover did not, cover and it wasn't even
going to be close compared to what happened in that first.
Half mensa with three hundred and eighty nine, yards three,
touchdowns zero. Interceptions can we really take anything away from
his performance?
Speaker 2 (19:49):
List.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
YEAH I i was a little annoyed that that game
wasn't on BECAUSE i planned on have them both. On
but fortunately to Acc Digital networks got you. Covered i'll
watched that condensed. Game have to watch the twelve minute
version of.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
It.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, Man so WHEN i Watched duke play AND i
got to check out last night for one of the
offensive line Man elon was giving them a hard time up.
Front they were getting After mensa a little. Bit they
ran the ball, decently but they were getting After, mensa
especially early in that.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Game they forced an early.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Turnover maybe you could Say duke was sleep walking a little,
bit but, again that's another offense That i'm looking, at
AND i won't say THAT.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
WAS i want to see.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
MORE i needed to see more BECAUSE i didn't get
that feeling from them, either Like mensa look.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Good i'm not a big arm.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Strength i'm not huge on, that but you know the
arm it was it was, Okay LIKE i expected a
little more from, him even though the numbers are. Guardy
but when you watch the game, though and watch how
they were able to make their bones Against, Elon LIKE
i was, like, Okay, LIKE i need to see them
against somebody a little bit, better which fortunately we will
get the opportunity to do that when they play Against.
(20:57):
Illinois But duke, AGAIN i thought. It even though they won,
handily but against a team like E, line with all
the fireworks THAT i expected from the, OFFENSE i thought.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
It was a little.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Lackluster, YEAH i think maybe it's stat confirmation biased BECAUSE
i am a fan Of. MENSA i do think seven
incompletions almost four hundred, yards it's a good stat.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
LINE i like arm.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
STRENGTH i did think he had some good placement last,
night especially on the. Touchdown, yeah close eye, Line SO
i like. That, ultimately though as much AS i Like,
MENSA i can't come in here and tell you he
blew Up, Elon so watch out for the highest.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
TIME a nice little running back though they.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Do and by the, way you mentioned the running game
got going a little, bit just big plays because you
had the sixty three yard run From, castle he ended
up with sixty nine yards. Total he had the thirty
two yard run From more he ended up with forty
four yards.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Total so it was a big.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Place that really was in a big punt return to
that gave him to put them to thirty.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Eight that.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Matters but you, ALSO i, think want to see consistent
gains rather than the boom sixty three.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Because i'm sitting there on the bottom line And i'm
like three three first. Quarter Then i'm like ten, Ten
i'm like what is going on? Here like ten ten at?
Half SO i, mean maybe you could look at it
Like duke was, Sleepwalking but just WHEN i looked at,
him this is another. Team LIKE i, said they're gonna
have to tighten up and show some more things because
you Got illinois rolling in there soon, enough and that's
(22:17):
gonna be a real challenge for, them and FOR Nc.
State next week they've Got, virginia so it's gonna be
time to get things going in a.
Speaker 8 (22:24):
Hurry isn't this also just How duke plays and, openers
like they're one of those teams they always.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Start, yeah they have lackluster.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Openers and last year you kind of attributed that To Malik,
murphy feeling like that he was a quarterback that was
straight pocket. Passer they couldn't run the ball that, great
and so you felt like With mensa and everything and
all the hypes surrounding. Him you thought that maybe they
were gonna come out from the grip and be a
more explosive, unit and then when you don't see, that
you're just, Like, OKAY i.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Will, say, Yeah duke made a living early last season
winning these close, games And murphy's showing you all that
in the fourth. Quarter he turned it on in game driving, situations.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Mensa did not look Like murphy last.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Year, Yeah AND i will, say, THOUGH i do Like Cooper.
Barkape he looks as advertised THE Ivy league transfer that they.
HAD i think he had a couple of thousand y
seasons At harvard If i'm not, Mistaken but, yeah he
looked a part last. Night he looks like he's going
to be the number one guy in that receiving, game.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
All, Right so maybe The panthers lost their number one
guy in the receiving game With Adam theling going To.
Minnesota certainly over the last couple of, years and it
was a weird situation back and. Forth we Saw Kay
adams talk With kevin O'Connell On The up And Adam
show About, hey are you going to Bring Adam thlen
back To minnesota and O'Connell gave us that big old,
smile and at that, POINT i think we all knew
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something is up regarding theling going back. Home Dan morgan
joined The Kyle Bailey show, yesterday AND i thought he
was very. Good shout out To kyle for not, only
of course Getting, dan but doing a great job with.
Him we really got a lot of clarity on what
happened with The, adam Theling a, gociations and What adam wanted.
Specifically Here's Dan morgan on The Kyle Bailey show yesterday
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discussing that.
Speaker 7 (24:06):
Trait that was definitely a busy week back and, forth you,
know trying to get you, know value that we thought
was fair for us if we were going to move
our starting. Slot you, know obviously we've done didn't want
to move, him but it was something That adam really.
Wanted you, know he's pretty steadfast and wanting to go
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back To minnesota finish his career, there you, know AND
I i told, HIM i, was you, KNOW i wouldn't
get in his way if if it was fair for
The Carolina. Panthers and you, know at the end we
came to an, agreement and you, know we're gonna mess
him around, here but you, know it just gives an
opportunity for somebody else to step up and show us
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what they.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Got got a lot there a few. Things, ONE i
continue to think That Dan morgan handled this. Perfectly to
a t fourth round, pick that's equal value for what
you're losing in. Theling you also get to do right
by a guy that was in a pretty terrible situation
and was your ONLY i was about to say one
(25:15):
of your only but maybe your only producers at times
over the last couple of. Years SO i do again
just HOW i. Am i'm not the one hundred percent
practices at four thirty, Guy but if you're only going
to give me a couple six round, picks then practice
is at fourth.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Third that's what it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Is SO i continue to Think Dan morgan handled things perfectly.
Here he was emphatic into that SoundBite and a couple
of other times he dropped it in that interview With
kyle that you saw, Yesterday adam wanted, this and it's
not like he was even Saying i'd be cool IF
i went back To. Minnesota Dan morgan is telling You
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Adam thelen went in his. Office in those conversations back and.
Forth adam was, steadfast that's his, words steadfast and wanted
to go back To. Minnesota SO i think about all
of the problems that we see from some of these
disgruntled players in THE nfl and THE, nba and you
can Go Jimmy butler where that is just one end
of the extreme scorched. Earth if you won out With,
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minnesota then Scorched. Earth you went out With miami where
you had a whole bunch of. Success Scorched. Earth, RIGHT
i Don't Adam finland's not gonna be that kind of.
Guy but at the same, time could he have made things?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Harder? Maybe is he gonna be?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Frustrated and does that affect the psyche on how you,
practice on how you, play on your, mentorship on your. Leadership,
now if you're not as, happy does that affect what
you do with Your Jalen, cokers with Your tea. Mac
and that doesn't mean that he's not the utmost. Professional
he's also a human, being and you're gonna be affected
by some of those. Thoughts your wife clearly wanted to go.
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Badly then you release a video of your kids being
so excited to Leave charlotte to go back To. Minnesota
they couldn't freaking. Wait and SO i Understand Adam thieland won,
this BUT i think the takeaway here is it's very
very Clear Dan morgan making it very. Clear adam is
the one that wanted. It minnesota is the team that called.
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Us we were not shopping. Him it's not like we
wanted to do, it but given the, circumstances we were
gonna do it as long as we got fair.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Value, Yeah AND i think, that like you, Said Dan
morgan did the best thing by. Everybody but the most
important thing was he did right by The panthers first
and getting in them the most compensation that they could
get out of the. Deal and, so you, know just hearing,
that you, Know adam feeling really wanted, it really wanted
to get. Out i'm not necessarily a fan of, that,
because LIKE i, SAID i do think that The panthers
really threw him a lifeline and gave him an. Opportunity
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i've been saying it. All we gave him an opportunity
to be something that he wasn't going to be. Elsewhere
maybe he was the guy on the bad team like AN.
Nba maybe he's the guy on the bad team that
gets all the shots and gets to put up some guarding.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Numbers, okay but you, KNOW i still think that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
The panthers really kind of revived what was left Of
adam feeling because a lot of people didn't think that
there was much. There but at the end of the,
Day Dan morgan did the best that he could by
putting The panthers first and, foremost because if the deal
wasn't going to benefit, them then he wasn't going to do,
it and then he was able to make the player.
Happy SO i guess that's how you would want to
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operate when you want to do square.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
BUSINESS i think. SO i think.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
So Hitstick mike writes in on The FanDuel techs. Line
as great as theling still, is we were bound to
move on and someone needs to establish themselves as the
new number, one with haste being at McMillan OR xl Or.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Coker MAYBE i don't know why you leave it.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Out coker hits Stake mike around, here even THOUGH i
do think it is going to be t Mac coker
is the guy that seems to have a bote of
confidence when considering Trading adam thieland he's the guy that's
going to go into the, slot even if the tight
ends run a lot out of the. Slot in This
Dave canalis. Offense it was true the last year With.
Carolina it was true the year before that With. Tampa either,
way you have to feel somewhat good about your young
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receivers if you are going to pull the trigger on this.
Deal And spence writes In, wes can you blame thelan
for wanting to get the.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Freak out of? Here is what he.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Says this organization is poorly viewed by the. Teams not
a class organization when you Have David teppers, owner micro managing. Everything,
Well Adam dealin did give us a classy goodbye on social.
MEDIA i don't Blame adam dealing a ton for wanting
to go back home BECAUSE i can understand. It. Man
if you were about to raise hell At, boa then
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that would be, frustrating because you are. RIGHT i don't
think That Adam thlen deserved any. HANDOUTS i don't want
to get it. Twisted oh, Hey Adam, delen thank you so.
Much not to mention paying him more than, Anybody, yeah,
hey giving him a bonus, like, oh, Oh, adam thank
you so. Much, MAN i appreciate that one thousand yard.
YEAR i appreciate everything you. Did, okay we'll send you
(29:42):
up there for.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Peanuts.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Cool, no it's not like The panthers owe him all
of this. Stuff it's just being. Rational it's just being.
Cool Dan morgan is a, player a former player that
has turned into A. GM i think if you want
to keep that, reputation you don't all way turn INTO.
Gm it's almost like what you have with these dudes
that get super super rich and forget where they came.
(30:04):
From Dan morgan ain't forgetting where it came from. Here
he acknowledged that in the interview With Kyle, bailey WHICH
i thought was.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Interesting.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
MAN i continue to come away From Dan morgan press
conferences Dan morgan interviews thinking that the process is different
from what it used to. Be even if there was
some concern because he was so close To Scott, FITTERER
i continue to come away impressed by his thought, process
what he cares, about how he goes about. Things AND
i feel the same way as he describes.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
How That Adam deler negotiations went back and.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Forth, yeah and so you do have that side of
him that does help you out and Players LIKE i,
SAY nfl players are always going to be about the paycheck,
first but it does help when you know that you're
playing for a guy And Dan morgan is going to
try to do right by, you AND i think that
that matters to, people to customer service if you.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Will in THE. Nfl, yeah some think that he exhibited.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That what we do know, though for, Sure like the
takeaway from What dan was saying is That adam he
wanted to go. Home, man he, did AND i Think
minnesota is the specific team that he wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
To there were some.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
Comments about The chiefs that he would have liked to
have played for A Super bowl. Contender that's understandable as,
Well BUT i don't know if he would have had
the kind of fervor to go to a different destination
as he did With minnesota with any other team and
he ends up going home real. Quickly let's talk about
another wide, receiver The Hunter renfro. Situation that's kind of
a wild one as. WELL i think If Adam thlen
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gets traded before the deadline on cut, day Then Hunter
renfro makes the.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Team it's kind of WHAT i understand it to. Be they.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Don't, instead they trade. Theling what was it like five
hours after the? DEADLINE i guess it was the next. Day, yeah, Yeah,
yo it would like it been like sixteen if you.
Will i'm bad at math as we saw, yesterday but
sixteen hours, ACCURATE i. Think, Okay so there you, go all,
right top of the, dome, baby call Me. Einstein sixteen
hours after the. Deadline so it was such a short
(31:59):
window when you actually traded him compared to what cuts.
Were but he's not on the. Team we don't know
if he's going to be on the. Team kyle Asked
Dan morgan About hunter. Renfro here's what The PANTHERS gm
had to.
Speaker 7 (32:08):
SAY i think definitely we're open to Bringing hunter back
on The city three man. Roster and you, Know hunter's
a great. Player the situation at the Time adam was
on our, TEAM i didn't know if this trade was
going to, happen and we, have you, know guys Like David,
moore guys Like bryce And, tremaine you know that were you,
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know playing. Good they're they're really good on special. Teams
they help us out on special. Teams AND i think
at the end of the, day it was a little
bit of a crowded, room just in terms Of hunter
being you, know was he going to be active on game?
Day was he, gonna you, know how was he going
to fit in the rotation on game?
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Day SO i.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Think it really came down to. That and then OBVIOUSLY
i told him before he. LEFT i was, like, hey
like this may have up in and you're back here
and you, know potentially playing for, Us so the door's
definitely still open for. THAT i actually talked to him today,
again and you, know we'll see where it. Goes we'll
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see what he.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Decides wes has a confused. Face he's not quite sure
what he's. Hearing can you articulate as best you can
what you think you're hearing.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
FROM i, mean he was just kind of himming and
hauling around basically to say that they were trying to
put him on a practice. Squad like that's WHAT i
took from, this because when he's, like you, know it
was a crowded room and you, know hunted this and hunted,
that and then he, says, well the door's still, open you,
know because when he started talking about will he be
active on game day and things of that, nature sounded
like to me that they had a practice squad roll for,
(33:43):
him And Hunter renfro doesn't know if he wants to do.
THAT i Think renfro is, like, hey you, know If
i'm going to come, back THEN i want to be
on the.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Roster bi a guy thats out there on game.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
DAY i think the timing of it kind of screwed
up some things for. Them, yeah because apparently it WAS i,
mean it was really to get that fourth round of
For adam Th delen and then we're going to trade
him for anything. Else dan was really clear about that
With kyle and at the press conference that he had yesterday.
Too SO i think If delan gets traded at three
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pm on cut, Day Hunter renfro is a part of
the fifty three man, roster but he, wasn't and, instead
now you had thelan on the roster at that. Time
in those sixteen, hours you start to grease the wheels
on getting that fourth rounder by with your. Team Eric
eager And Bran tillis also work in this. Trade that's
(34:33):
What Dan morgan mentioned With kyle as. Well and so
your team found a way to counter What minnesota was,
offering Or minnesota said, okay we'll go ahead and accept this,
instead And hunter now might be on the team and
he might. Not but if all of that happened at
three pm on cut, DAY i think we're talking About
Hunter renfro being an active member of this. Roster, yeah
(34:54):
MAYBE i think. That BUT i think you're also right
in that we want, you, right but also that makes.
Sense that makes sense to. Me Everything dan is saying makes.
Sense we want, you but we also don't think you're
gonna set the league on fire your first year back
from battling ulcerative. Colitis, Okay, like maybe we have you
on the, team but you're not a top three. Guy
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we think you're a five or a, six and you
don't help us on special teams as. Much it's totally
understandable to me the way That morgan is talking about
it in terms of how much he values In, okay,
no we don't have much. Time we're gonna move up
the campus. Corner it's schedule prediction. Time we go down
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Speaker 4 (37:38):
Yo all, right you said that we are not going
to pick this game versus App state out here Beautiful
bank Of America stadium until the end of the. Show
so let's just go right to The september sixth matchup
Versus North. Carolina North carolina took care Of charlotte last,
year thirty eight to. Twenty Connor harrold passed for two
scores two hundred and nineteen yards passing rush for another,
(38:01):
score but he will be starting For charlotte this. Time
we Know North carolina has seventy new, players we Know
North carolina Has Bill, belichick and we know how Much
Wes bryan is a fan Of Goo lopez and the
debut that he could have. Walk i'm, sorry, man BUT
i Think belichick and the boys are gonna put it on.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
You so that's AN l for. Me On september sixth versus.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
The, HILL i think you're gonna apologize to me a
lot today for a lot of the l's are gonna
a head To Tim albot And. Company CAN i tell
you how MUCH i enjoyed listening to The Kyle Bailey
show just a couple of days ago When Smoke ludwig
said That charlotte was gonna Beat North. Carolina, OHANK i
(38:45):
gotta respect. IT i gotta Respect, OH i love. It
i'm more than because you know it's well thought.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Out When smoke moves up with something like, THAT i
would love to hear AND i know he's got deep.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Reasons AND i apologize To. KYLE i don't want to
Violate kyle's. Trust but he did say in The fish
he didn't want to Tell smoke this because he didn't
Want smoke to get a big. Head but oftentimes when
he does stuff like, this he's. Right smoke is, right.
Man could you a?
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Man, god don't.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Don't do that Why smoke is the one that's gassed me.
Up NOW i can't do. It i'm gonna Have North
carolina Beating charlotte At Jerry Richardson. Stadium and WHILE i
HOPE i am all sorts of dead wrong And smoke
is all sorts of dead, RIGHT i don't have that.
Happening all that to Say charlotte, LOSES.
Speaker 8 (39:31):
I, MEAN i if it, Happens i'll show up in
my boxers and that's all for the entire.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Show we just. SHOOK i, mean you gotta be kidding.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
Me Like Connor, Harold Connor harrold was the reason that
this game was close last. Year there's no way that
he is going to find a way to Beat, carolina.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Right you would hope.
Speaker 8 (39:52):
NOT i Think caroline is gonna have a game plan for.
HIM i think this is gonna be one of those
games where maybe it's sort of like what we saw
With el last night For, duke where maybe the game
is a little close early. On BECAUSE i don't doubt
That charlott's gonna be scrappy. Man Tim alvin is a
hell of a. COACH i have said that all off,
season BUT i just don't think it's enough to Be. Carolina,
MAN i got the torios pulling.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Away let me tell you what's gonna. Happen Bill belichick's.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Gonna stroll into that facility and he's just, say, hey
we got kind of hair of practice. TAPE i want
to see some of the. DRILLS i want to see
what he does. Good but he doesn't do. GOOD i
want to see his. Weaknesses and he's gonna start breaking
him down like a lawn chair after a kid soccer
game is.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
Over, well he's gonna ask can we see his strengths
and they're gonna be, like we don't have.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Much he's gonna go to the game tape and then
he's gonna go into the, archives because that's How belichick
gives it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Up you know.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
What that's all, right, Man we're filling up the strengths
file cabinet drawer right.
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Speaker 4 (40:55):
Cry, Okay so if smoke is going to predict you
guys to Be North, carolina and that would be one
hell of a loss to start The Bill Belichick. EDWARDS
i say all that to say That Tim alban could
be running into one of those scenarios the very next
week Versus. Monmouth, Okay monmouth IN fcs last year was
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second nationally in points per. Game they were dropping thirty
nine per they're All american Quarterback Derek robertson is, back
and they are ranked number twenty one nationally when you TALK.
Fcs so this could be one of those dangerous games
where the fans would be looking At Tim albin with
the side eye if he is to lose To. Monmouth
(41:40):
Fortunately West brian doesn't have that. Happening BUT i do
think that what's your favorite lemon? Booty that thing might
be very situsy by the Time monmouth is.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Done, wow we call that brisk. Booty yeahs, boy, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
MAN i had it right there the whole time you
were going on that soliloquy about How monmouth just might
Upset charlotte at. Home by the, Way charlotte opens up
with a bunch of games In Charlotte bank Of America,
Stadium North, Carolina, Monmouth. Rice that's four straight games in
The Queen. City so nice For charlotte And Tim. Albyn you're,
right those first two games are gonna be, difficult especially
(42:20):
With North. CAROLINA i hope they Beat. MONMOUTH i got them, winning,
MAN i got THE l For North. CAROLINA i got
to win Against.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Monmouth. YEAH i think they're gonna Beat.
Speaker 8 (42:28):
MONMOUTH i think the thing is is That monmouth was
really good offensively last. Year they also finished six and,
six so that's part of the THING i think with
them is that they were good last year on one
side of the, ball but they were not great. DEFENSIVELY
i think you're gonna see that in this. GAME i
Think charlotte will do. Enough it could be one of
Those lemon booty moments during you, know the first.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Half, yeah BUT i do.
Speaker 8 (42:51):
THINK i do think in the second Half charlotte pulls
away and.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Wins the season real.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Quickly just looking at the price of tickets for each
of the first two, games it's a ninety four dollars
kicket ticket to get Into Boa, tonight it's a one
hundred and eleven dollars ticket to get Into Jerry Richardson, stadium.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
And it's gonna go up even. More Let carolina win that,
game it's gonna go up even.
Speaker 3 (43:10):
More and it's a sixteen dollars ticket to get Into
moments to get.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
There's a value pick right, there, buddy for them to
get into. Mamas, OKAY i think maybe we take a
little break right. Here then we go into the one o'clock,
hour and we got a lot of games. Left it's
gonna get funky around. Here this is The west And Walker.
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