September 11, 2025 • 43 mins
Wes & Walker are back once again, we start the show by questioning if the Panthers have had a fire lit under them after the loss to the Jags. We then look at former Panthers and ask who the Panthers miss the most.
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Appreciate everybody joining us in the midday. Hopefully you do
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out again today, So Shroppy back in the bus driver's seat,
gonna be helping us out all day to day. And
then who knows about Friday? I know, Wes, this is
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essentially your Friday. This is going to be a theme
on Thursdays for the college football season. So on Thursdays
now the one o'clock hour becomes the bit hour. Games
bang bang bang, one o'clock. We go balling or falling,
we go top ten, we go fire or fizzle, and
then we'd go back to you like.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Mike Tyson body shot up. Yeah, like somewhat of.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Your normally scheduled programming the rest of the way, so
the one o'clock hour, it's a wild one on these Thursdays.
And look, I will say before we get started, it
does feel like we should address some of what's happening
today and some of the happenings on September tenth, Yesterday.
Today is a hard day for a bunch of different reasons.
It's nine to eleven. It's the fifty first anniversary of
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the deadliest plane crash in Charlotte history, to which a
new memorial was constructed this week at Airport Overlook Park,
and conservative political commentator Charlie Kirk was murdered after being
shot and died within a few hours of sustaining injuries. Yesterday,
of course, we also have yet another school shooting. This
day is going to mean something very powerful. It's going
to mean something very different to all of you. I'm
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not going to pretend to know exactly how you feel.
I don't want to denigrate nor repeat the frequent messages
you've already heard that you agree with or that you
disagree with. There are some items maybe worth touching, but
not worth exploring on this format. I think this is
one of those times. So whatever today means to you,
I respect it within reason, and we're going to give
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you what your normal West and Walker show is on
a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah. Man, We're going to try to do our best.
It's a heavy day that a lot of people will
never forget. A lot of lives lost, man, and so
shout out to those who lost loved ones and you know,
everybody out there today. Man. Like I said, it's a
crazy world that we live in. And you know, all
we can do is try to make you, you know,
feel as good as we can for these three hours.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So come along the ride with us if you want to,
and we appreciate everybody that is on board riding the bus.
Let's get off the bus, Let's open up the doors.
Let's pull up to the scene.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do you know what to do? We look good getting
off the bus.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Dave Canalis talked about the messaging and the mood within
the locker room yesterday shop. If you don't mind pulling
that audio up, I would like to hear from the
Panthers head coach on how the Panthers players are responding
and how they're challenging each other after they got borderline
embarrassed is it borderliners? It just outright embarrassed against Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, embarrassed because I would say, even though the score
wasn't as bad as it could have been, when you
get run on for two hundred plus yards, that's embarrassing.
You got foot splitting you. Okay, there's no way around it.
When you get physically pushed around. I think it's one
thing if a team throws for three hundred and fifty
or four hundred on you, it's different than when you
just get physically pounded.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, so embarrassed. We're going with outright. You got embarrassed
in week one, you open up the season, So let's
move on and discuss what Dave Canal has had to
say about what everybody is responding with in that Panther's
locker room.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah. Focused, you know, urgency.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think you know, when you play a game like that,
it's like all the guys are it means something to them.
You know, they were a little bit testy with each other.
I don't mind saying that. I like seeing that it
matters to them. They care, and that's the type of
focus and energy that we need, the type of passion
that it takes to continue to grow our schemes to
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continue to play together, it requires that type of accountability
with each other.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
These are the types of comments that get a lot
of eye rolls from fans because ultimately what happens, fans
just want results. But I'm actually not here to give
an eye roll. I do want my team responding this
way because we could be real cynicals. Oh who cares,
They're just looking for a paycheck. It's whatever. This is
what the coach is going to say. Blah blah blah
blah blah. It's all lip service. Except I do take
what Dave Canalis says seriously in that regard. I don't
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think the players in that locker room come at it
with any indifference. I think they care. I don't think
they want to give you another performance like they did
against Jacksonville. I respect the way that they are responding
to what we are discussing to be an outright embarrassment,
and so I'm glad that they're responding this way. Ultimately,
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you can't only score a handful of points against Arizona,
and if you get beat down in two weeks consecutively
to open up the season, then we might just see
some people get fired like, I don't know, man, I
don't want to say it's rock bottom already. It's not that,
but there's going to be some changes coming about. I
like the way they're responding well.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Unlike other sports, we know, the NFL a lot of
their contracts they are incentive base. There's only one player
in the NFL that has a fully guaranteed contract, so
you have to go out there and earn it every
single week. So that kind of eliminates a lot of
the indifference. The guy's going out there not caring this that,
and the third because you'll be out of a job.
Does it happen, Yes, it does, but still the NFL,
you've got to earn your money. And also too for
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these players that have been here for quite sometimes, you know,
you get tired of being a laughing stock. You can
say what you want all day, but if you sit
there and you just have a person insol to all day,
and you sit in front of them and just listen
to insults, at some point, you're gonna turn around and
you're gonna have something to say, or even more than that.
And so these guys are the same way. It's the
same story, especially with the fact that you come out
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with optimism in your first game. You feel like this
season is going to be different, this defense is going
to be different, We're different. And then you come out
and see the same results. That's unnerving. That's aggravating to
a lot of people. So for these guys to come
out and it looked like much of the same, even
though they have new faces and all of these things,
that's going to frustrate you. So yes, it's going to
bring out the emotions of players playing in such a
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physical violence sport.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
This is where your culture is supposed to take over.
If you're fixing it, then it's supposed to look different
in week two, Week three, and so on and so forth.
Because you can have a good culture and get embarrassed
every once in a while. That's gonna happen because football
is weird. Yes, because a handful of mistake might just
take place in one individual game and it doesn't mean
that you're sorry. It just means that you had a
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terrible game. If you do it consistently, then it means
you're sorry. And I don't want a sorry football team.
I really hope that we don't have that over there.
This is where your culture is supposed to fix itself,
and this is what Dan Morgan has been trying to
do each of the last couple of seasons. I think
you have a few players that care so much that
they're not going to allow that to happen again in
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consecutive weeks. The way that they've drafted, the way that
they've signed certain players. I look at a Tershawn Wharton,
who might not be the most gifted defensive tackle. He's
a worthwhile player that deserves a bunch of snaps in
the NFL. But this is someone that won. We talked
about it in blueprint. Let's just call him an impressive
physical specimen, just kind of wild. Somebody that big could
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be that muscular. But also the thing I'm looking at
with Turshawn Wharton is the fact that he was undrafted,
had to get it out of the mud and then
get real playing time on a Super Bowl champion team
like Kansas City that I want. In the trenches, he's
not going to be playing, So who's going to pick
up for him? Is Bobby Brown made of that? I
think Derek Brown is made of that. On the offensive line,
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Robert Hunt seems like a leader, Damian Lewis seems like
a leader when we hear him vocal on blueprint, the
guys you drafted t MAC has been nothing but coachable.
According to all reports, Nick Gordon is one hundred and
ten percent effort. Have you done enough with your personnel
so that doesn't happen again? Regardless of even talent. So
talent matters, but the attitude coming into this one, yeah, man,
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I'm really hoping they don't lay down well.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And I'll also take it to another level because this
coaching staff too, man, it needs to be you know,
no holes barred when they come out there. I shout
out to the old school movie back in the day,
but that you need to come out as a coaching
staff and have one of your most aggressive game plans
on both sides of the ball. I mean, what do
you have to lose? You looked at as one of
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the worst teams, if not the worst team in football.
So to me, for this coaching they need to call
a very aggressive game plan. They need to come out
and be at their best because if you want the
players to be at their best, for one, they can
feel from the coaches. They can tell from the play
calls that oh yeah, coaches on one to day he
believes in us, and not to say that the coaches don't,
but I just think at this point it's time to
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start going out there and just throwing a kitchen sink
at things and trying to make some things happen. Manufacture
some good fortune if you will. All right, So can
you manufacture some good fortune by playing some of the
younger players. This was the comment that got the most
attention in the first press conference after that loss against Jacksonville. Shop,
let's go ahead and play his follow up on that
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with some of the younger players and whether or not
we can expect them to play a little more in
this game against Arizona.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I was honestly just addressing a question. You know,
our staff knows. We all know here we are developmentally minded.
That's our philosophy. Whether that goes with our staff, raising
and teaching our staff, or whether that's with all of
our players.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You get forty six.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Guys on GA or special teamers, you got forty three.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
These guys all.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Have to play at some point, you know, And so
I was really just kind of talking about that, like,
these are the guys. They're all going to have to
play at some point, you know, And just continuing to
pour into them because the opportunities here we go. We
have an opportunity now Turk Wharton all of a sudden
is not here now, Jayden Krummedy has to play a
bigger role, you know. And that's that's kind of what
I was alluding to, you know, and just giving a
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little bit of reference and background from all.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Right, Jaan Krummedy not the younger player that I thought
he was referencing. I thought it might be Nick Gordon
or Aman Miel and maybe Lathan Ransom, but Krummedy might
be the guy, which I guess makes sense to look
for bigger bodies to be a part of the rotation
if a bigger body is going to be out for
two to four weeks. Dave Canalis is right, he was
just answering the question. It was a pointed question, right,
Younger players didn't get a lot of snaps. Is that's
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something you want to change moving forward? He said, I'm
going to encourage at Gero Averro. He didn't say his
name specifically, but I'm going to encourage the defensive staff
to play some of those younger guys. What did you
think of his comment here? Addressing his first comment on Monday.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I just think that coach canalis Man, he's looking
for answers anywhere he can get him, and I think
he wants to find out what some of these young
players have at the end of the day. And so
are they ready to get in there and play. Maybe
maybe not, But you know, should some of them maybe
get in their situationally in points where you know that
they feel confident in going out there and executing their assignment,
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then yeah, I think you can start to work some
of these guys in yet, unless it's just to a
point where you just don't feel confident at all that
they understand the scheme, because we know that a lot
of other things come into it as well if you're
not quite fully understanding of what's going on, and you
get out there and the nerves get to going and
things get to going fast. Because like I said, this
is not preseason, this is a different speed, this is
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a different tempo. You're going to get way different looks
and way more exotic things offensively and defensively than what
you got in the preseason. And so that's the thing
that you have to think about too when you decide
to put these young players out there. But I think
coach Canalys is here for it and he wants to
be able to have some stars, some difference makers can emerge.
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, this is the one worth exploring, This very notion
of playing the younger players versus playing the vets. What
does Dave Canalis want versus what does a Gero Averro want?
I reference the other day that these guys are on
a little different timelines. Jero Rivero has some real urgency
to win right now and perform, where Dave Canalis, Yeah,
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for sure, there's a sense of urgency for him to
perform as well. He wants to win, he wants to compete.
But if both of these units, offense and defense, they
don't perform up to our expectations, there's one guy that's
going to lose his job first, and that's a Vera.
We've already talked about that. So the timelines are interesting
to explore here. The other thing is, I will give
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Dave Canalis credit in putting his money where his mouth is.
You just have to go back to last year to
give some evidence as to him, you know, exercising what
he preaches. He did play some of the younger guys
last year wide receiver corps was pretty young. Now you
have a lot of options there, but you mixed the
veterans in alongside some of the younger players, and we
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got to see Jalen Coker go out there and perform
quite well. He played Jalen Coker. He was playing well,
but remember Jalen Coker was off the team for a
little while. He wasn't a starter right away, so he
eventually went with the guy that he thought was more
talented and wanted to develop. J T. Sanders getting some
real run over Tommy Tremble, who was a good athlete,
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good physical blocker, but probably limited. And we're like, okay,
let's just throw j T. Sanders out there and give
him some snaps right away. Yeah, you could argue that
there's not many options, but there are a couple, and
yet he went with that anyway, So I will he
can point to that when talking with Avero and saying
I did it, and there was a lot of pressure immediately.
I do want to see Scorton a little more. I
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do want to see Ransom a little more, and Wes
it would be different if these guys were just awesome
that are ahead of Scorton and Ransom, they're not right.
Like Cocher played. Guess what, turns out he's actually one
of the better players at his position, and we couldn't
see that until he was out there on Sundays. Maybe
that's the case for Ransom, Maybe that's the case for Scrton. Yes,
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maybe that's the case for Scrting. But we're not going
to know unless they play a decent amount of snaps
and even if they don't show it against Arizona. This
is the part where you do have to give these
younger guys some time if you are what Dave Canallys says,
developmentally minded.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's a long season, man, and every team they're going
to have some players emerged throughout the season. That's a fact.
That's just how it is in the NFL. So for
the Panthers, can you find some diamonds in the rough
during the season, because the more things don't get better
than the more you are going to have to try
and dig. And again, another word that we're using a
lot today is manufacturing. Gonna have to try to manufacture
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to find some new guys who can step in there
and play.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's usin Walker Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ.
Speaking of games, I got kind of a game coming
up in the next second.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Let's play a game you want to play? You up?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know that text that you send when you're thinking
about that extra special someone that is lifecs. Yeah, well,
well just maybe special at some time, but you're thinking
about them. It's a rough night, it's a rough day,
and they're not in your life anymore, and so it's
just it's in your brain. It's in your mind, and
then you go ahead and press send you up. Are
we sending you up text to Adam Thielen? Were you
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sending hey, ikey, Josh Nyman? It's not cunning you up?
Who are we sending you up text messages to? That's
what we discussed coming up next. That's Radio ninety two
to seven WFNZ. A lot of people sending in the
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U up text on the FanDuel text line seven oh
four five seven oh ninety six y ten UFC Pillow
Fights sent this went in. I don't have this name
down on the rundown. I should have put it down though,
he said, I'm sending a U up text to Shack
and Josie Jewel because something else is needed at linebacker.
I have Jadevion Clowney on the list also, and it's
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not who I thought I was going to lead the
segment off with. But let's just stay here while we're here. Shack,
Josie Jewel, Jadevion Clowney. Three defenders that you had on
your team last year. Yes, on a defense that was
not good. Shack was hurt, so he wasn't even really
on the defense last year because he was injured. This
team at linebacker is struggling, struggling mightily. Josie Jewel, you
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don't really put on the Panthers because he got hurt.
The only thing you would put on the Panthers there
is that they were trying to see if he would
be healthy enough. They decided right at the deadline, all right,
we'll move on. Josie Jewel's not even playing on any
things on a team right now because of the concussion
like symptoms that he had continued to experience for quite
some time. So really we can just put Shack and
Clowney on the list. Clowney visited Dallas within the last
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couple of days. It does not look like something is
going to get done between Dallas and Clowney. But Clowney
was one of the better defenders on what was a
bad defense last year. Weser you sending you up text
to Shaq Thompson and Jadevian Clowney right now.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Uh No, because you were a part of the defense
that gave up over a three thousand yards rushing last year.
You know, you had a couple of spurts like the
Kansas City game, but for the most part, they were
a part of one of the worst defenses in NFL history.
And I just don't see them as the type of
difference makers that could come in and correct that. Because
you were part of the you know, you were at
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the scene of the crime last year when the defense
was continually getting ran over, run through, run around. I
don't even know what else you could put with it.
Ar says they should have never let go of Clowney.
I feel like his experience would be valuable. I think
for me, I look at this very similarly to the
way I look at the offensive line for the Houston Texan.
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Larimi Tunzell is a good tackle in this league.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
They got rid of him because he was a part
of an offensive line that was absolutely terrible at pass protection,
but Laramie Tunseell despite the penalties, which is just a
nuisance that he brings, but it's still a very good
pass protector. You wouldn't put all of the pass protection
issues on one of the better pass protectors in football.
But they decided to trade him because they just wanted
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to complete overhaul. A lot of people questioned that move,
like okay, and he is one of the better guys.
Clowney's not as good as Laramie Tunsell at his position.
Tunzel is better, But I also don't put all of
the responsibility on Clowney, and I do think he would
be a better edge rusher than what we have right now.
Right now on September eleventh, twenty twenty five, I think
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Clowney would be the best player in a room full
of all of the Panthers edge rushers. S Gordon has
higher upside as it currently stands Oman Meellen might depending
on how good you feel about him. Wanham had the
two games last year and then that was about it.
Pat Jones had a nice run stop win rate in Minnesota.
The sacks were, you know, apparently hustled sacks. Whatever that matters,
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but you get the idea. So if you are desperate
for some edge help and that's the best edge defender
that you have in that room, then I would understand
people sending some U up text but they wanted to
save the money and they decided to not go after
anybody else outside of what they have currently. And maybe
it's because, sorry, I'm starting to I'm starting to wander
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down a road that I see like a different kind
of light take at the end of this tunnel. But
now I'm starting to connect playing some of the younger guys. Right,
it makes sense when you bring Clowney into the fold
here that Dave Canalis wants to play some of the
younger guys, because why else would you get rid of
your better edge rusher. He's better than Wantam, He's better
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than Pat Jones, So why else would you get rid
of Clowney if you were just gonna sit scorting and
ow Man Yellen and they were going to play like
thirty snaps combined. So that's another argument to play some
of these younger guys. But that's why I would understand
sending the U up text to Cloud Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And I mean because the thing is you got to
ask yourself, like, what do you feel like that he
will come in and do because again, you know, I
just historically bad all the way around last year, and
I mean they just kind of points yards everything you
could think of, and so I get it. And you know,
part of the Tounsil deal too was money, because that's
always involved. They didn't want to extend him and kind
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of hinder some of their development going forward paying him
as a premier left tackle in this league. But I
just think that, you know, when you talk about bringing
back some of these players, you got to ask yourself, Okay, well,
what really can they do? I equated to maybe you're
eating a bowl of porridge that is nasty. I bring
up the porche because of my man that had the
fifty thousand dollars collection. That story was in my head.
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But you're eating a bowl of porge and it's not
very good. And then somebody brings you like two or
three French fries throughout you eating that, so you're like,
all right, this is you know, this is decent. This
makes the meal a little better, but it's really not
doing it. I'm trying a horrible defense. And then you
bring back some average players to come and play in
it that aren't going to really make that much of
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a difference. They're going to get out there and more
than likely they're going to be drugged down with the
rest of them, So their play is not going to
elevate and they're not going to elevate anybody.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
The Shaq Thompson one, to me, is maybe a little
more dire than Clowny because at least you have a
couple of other guys that you can go to at edge.
And I'm not mistaken Shack for being a member of
the all time linebacker history that Carolina has. But he's
better than Trevin Wallace, He's better than Christian rose Boom.
If he put up great stats film that these guys
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were putting up, then I would be here for Like, man,
it's time to move on from Shack.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Shaq was injured.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So if you just want to get rid of an
injured player all the time, I get that, Like we
can't keep playing this song and dance, But put all
the linebackers in a room, Shack is actually like, by
far the best life in that room of all these linebackers.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, if you had to pick somebody to
try to bring in, I mean, Shaq was a decent
run defender. The pass cover has definitely left a lot
to be desired. But if you wanted to bring in
one of the better run defenders to get an incremental
improvement as far and also to knowledge of the defense,
kind of knowing where to be and things like that,
he would be an upgrade over Trevin Wallace. So yeah,
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if you wanted to send a U up text to
a Shaq Thompson, maybe especially if the health is good
and he's moving decently, then yeah you could. You could
probably do that. I'll give you a guy.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, of course, you know you send that up text
to Luke Keigley. Well, I mean only every day you
pocked at his house, you pucked at his house, knocking
on the door. I mean, it's the one that got away.
I'm sending him away. I haven't stopped thinking about him. Yeah,
you know, I haven't stopped shrinking about him. Right, Okay,
it's Luke Keikley. He's gone. He left me way too soon.
So Shaq, you know where he is now? Of course,
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Carolina North. He's in Buffalo. Yes, so even if you
wanted him, you can send him the up tech. But
he's responding. I got somebody. It's time to move on.
That's how he's responding. I think you're probably sending a
U up text to Ikey Iakwanu okay, because he's somebody
that you might have taken a break from for a
brief moment in time, just because of circumstances, really it
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being the appendectomy. But I wonder how much money yosh
Niman earned Ikey, And I heard Kyle phrase it that
exact way, but it's something I was thinking about also.
Yosh Nyman in Week one against Jacksonville gave up the
second most amount of pressures in all of Week one,
and that was tied with Fashionu from the Jets, Jones
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with the Bears, and Hudson and a couple of other players.
But just keeping it simple, Nyman gave up six pressures.
That was the second most allowed in Week one. He
had a terrible pass block in grade. I think you
could see it on the tape, even the throw that
was missed to Hunter Renfro on the left sideline. I
don't blame Bryce Young as much for that specific miss
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because the circumstances before that it was it's hard to
step into it. In fact, you can't really step into
it unless you recognize it earlier. But yoas Schneimen gave
up some pressure, Ikya kwanu man, did we learn the
value of him a little more so because of what
we saw against Jacksonville weekwa.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, you know, I always say in the NFL, it's
hard to have depth because if you had really good
depth and not gonna be your backups for long okay,
And a lot of times when you can have good depth,
it's maybe because you do have a rookie that's behind
a vet that's better than you thought he was gonna be,
and so maybe you luck up there. But when you
talk about guys that are veterans in this league and
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still backups, then you know what you're getting here. Okay,
you're gonna get up and down play. It's gonna be
a seesaw of action with said backup player. So with
jos Shneiman, we already knew what time it was when
he came into the football game, and it was gonna
be a rough ride there, and that's exactly what it was.
So not surprised at all. Maybe maybe you wanted him
to give up four pressures or three pressures instead of
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a six steady, It's true that could happen. But you
already know, man, especially with Josh Naiman, with what he's
shown to this point, like he hadn't given us any
semblance of solid play to be able to have some comfort.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
In Yeah, we all want to break Christiensen to start
in that game. And I did think, you know, at
Green Bay he was a decent enough pass blocker and
I thought, okay, we got some depth and it just
hasn't worked out here in Carolina. I wonder if he
loses his backup job to Christiansen, if Ikey has to
miss time again against Arizona, or if I hope this
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doesn't go all the way to week three. But Ikey
is doing some nice work. They're optimistic about him being
back in the lineup. So we'll see about the starting
left tackle there. I know, I know you're sending a
barage of you up text messages to this guy, Adam Thielen. Yes,
it's not like he was great against Minnesota. To be fair,
he did have a key drop. They came back anyway
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because JJ McCarthy turned it on and turned it on
in the fourth quarter. Impressive stuff in that last fifteen minutes.
Did catch a two point conversion, but feeling would undoubtedly
help this football team. So I guess my question to
you is how many you up text message?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, you're going into your bag with Adam feeling,
you telling him I'm gonna change. Man. You know, I
went to work on myself. I've been doing all these
things like I'm gonna be better this time, you know,
for you and the kids, Like, you know, just let
me back in the house. I can. I can prove
it to you, like you going into every bit of
what you have going on. Because right now, this team,
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outside of Tetoro McMillan, just does not seem to have
someone in that receiving court that can get open on
a consistent basis. You know, maybe, you know, Hunter Renfro
gets himself into the flow a little bit more after
his first regular season action in quite some time, and
maybe he comes out a little bit different this week.
We know that coach Canal has talked about how he
(26:49):
was a little inconsistent, So maybe this is the week
you get the good Hunter Renfro. Maybe this is the
week he has that flashback to Clemson and maybe it
should excite him at the fact that, hey, you know,
Exit isn't taking advantage of this opportunity. I got a
real opportunity here to establish myself as one of the
guys in this receiving corps. And so yeah, man, I
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think that, no doubt about it. You want Adam Feeling
back in the fold because this is a guy. Not
only are you talking about from a production standpoint, but
when you have a player that can get open consistently,
he's going to draw coverage and that's going to help
everybody out. And that's gonna help Bryce get his reads
easier because it's gonna dictate the coverage for the quarterback,
what he's seeing, what's happening post snap. It's gonna help
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out some of the other guys too, man. So having
a guy like Feeling in the fold would help in
a lot of ways. So yeah, man, you're going deep
in your I'm sorry bag to try to get this
man back going.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I love some of the text we're getting, Like I
love it when our listeners understand the assignment tenfold real tar.
He'll said, Wes, you got tank playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, man, I mean you're doing it all this time,
You're pacing and all that.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Tim and Statesville says, I'm out in side Luke Keickley's window,
holding the boombox over my head, hoping he comes to
the window. You're throwing the rocks.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hey, Luke, do you think he would step in and
just be a monster immediately if he came in?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Do you feel like that football's too hard for you
to be able to do that? But also, Luke is
not your normal linebacker.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I begin to take him like a couple of games.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It might it might take him a little longer to
get to the spot that he's diagnosed where the ball
is going, but he's still going to be on his
way there. Yeah, and Trevin Wallace might not be. In fact,
he would be.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You know, I don't know how long he would last
because he's been out of the game for a while.
But if he's able to be on a field, he
is an immediate upgrade over whatever you have, even sixty
five sixty percent of what he once was, look is
markedly better than what you have, right.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And look man like, I'm pulling for Trevin Wallace. I
wanted to work. I like the attitude he possesses. He's
got confidence and he cares. It's just it's not working
out right now. I'm hoping that you improve. Yes, a
lot of this is because Trevin Wallace has not been good,
but also a lot of it is because Luke Keickley
is one of the best linebackers of all time. Just
to be clear on why we're saying some of that stuff.
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Last point on Fling. We can send all the text,
we can pull out the Monster game, and we can
say that I'm a changed man. I'll be different this time.
I swear. The issue is you don't have any pride
sending those text messages because it's not like you did
anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You did it, got a no contact and you were
just fine. You didn't make any mistakes.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Adam Thelen wanted out because he just wasn't in love
with you, and it's not anything that you did. Just
doesn't have that feeling like he has for Minnesota. So
you can do all of that, have a little bit
of pride, or maybe don't and say, look, I don't
have any pride, Come play with us, and my life
is better with you in it. You got a fourth
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round pick. I really do wonder how disgruntled Adam Delen
would have been. Does he want to go back to
Minnesota so badly that he actually like doesn't Jimmy Butler it,
but does he do something anywhere close? Just classic holdout stuff,
classic practice, bad attitude, stuff that starts to weigh on
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you goes on. And that's the thing. I don't think
he's that kind of guy. The only thing I'll say
is man like. Dan Morgan was on with Kyle Bailey
for a reason. Dan was not calling other people to
trade Adam Thielen. He was not exploring that. I think,
especially listening to it, he was pretty clear. There wasn't
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any of this behind the scenes type of messaging. There
wasn't any subliminal messaging where we have to interpret it
a certain way to understand he was going to be disgruntled.
Dan Morgan told you if we didn't trade him, I
was worried about that kind of situation. He was clear
that he wanted to go to Minnesota last year in
the NFL. Don't have anything to lose. Your wife is
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posted on Instagram every day about thanking God she's finally
in Minnesota. I could see it, man, I could see it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, And that's the thing I would have felt like
with him, he would be an after practice kind of guy,
like he's gonna go out there and be the good soldier,
do what he needs to do, and then he's gonna
come out. I might have to practice and be like,
all right, when are we gonna get this done?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Last couple here, We definitely want Jalen Coker to come back.
They just needed a little time to explore right now.
But they're coming back. Like it feels tough, but they're
coming back.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah. So you just you know, you're just in the
house right now, and you know you got the tears
flowing a little bit, man, because it's bad outside.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Jalen Coker is on a trip. He just needs to
explore a little bit, but he's coming back, so don't worry.
Same thing with Turk Wharton, I will say, just to
put it in simple terms. I love keeping the theme up,
but just to put it in simple terms, how much
do you think Carolina misses Turk Wharton going into this game?
And how much did they miss him against Jacksonville after
he left? Yeah, they definitely missed him.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Like I said, now, this is a very you know,
temporary type of deal where you aren't worried about it,
but you're still worried about it because you you know,
you still need it. They left an impression on you.
And so that's what Turk Wharton did in his first
game as a Carolina Panther. He left an impression. It
felt like he was one of the defensive guys out
there that was getting it. He felt like one of
the defensive guys that really wanted it. And so a
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lot of fans saw that passion from him, and they
saw some of the plays that he made, and so
it hurt them because that's the tease that was. That
was the you know, the hot tease that you hung
out with and you thought it was going to turn
into something, but it quickly dissipated.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It was okay, but maybe they come back a change person.
The theme is hilarious that we're sticking with and people
understand the assignment all right now. I just wanted to
lean all the way into it. All right, people, you
have one song or you have one artist to go
to to get your love interest back. What are you playing?
Seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six to ten?
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You got the boombox, you're at your ex significant other's house. Yeah,
you got one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow?
What are you playing? Let me know? On the FANDUL
text line, we reveal some of our answers on the
other side of the break. It's WESN. Walker Sports Radio
ninety two seven WFZ.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Tropy.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is this your attempt at saving your relationship with your
ex significant other?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Is this the song that you're going with? This is
a good one, but I think, I mean I have.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
To go with something like the Moment by Kenny g
or something.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, what is like?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
This is Love and Happiness al Green, except it's a
cover from someone who is actually who is the Inner
Dimension cover? Okay, you might as well just go ahead
and play some real al Green. Now, you can't go
wrong if you're just gonna play some Algreen to help
you out. This was the question, okay, because we were
sending you up text to some of the injured and
gone players from this Panthers roster, some Panthers that could
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really help Carolina turn things around. We asked, if you
lost your significant other, what is the one song or
the one artist. We can be vague a little bit,
what's the one song or artist that you would play
on the boombox that you have on your shoulder outside
of their house to get them back? Seven oh four
five seven oh ninety six to ten. That's the fandual
text slide. All right, Wes, I know you were thinking
(34:14):
about it. What songs are you playing?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Immediately? I think about boys to man? I please don't
go Okay, boy, got that one. I mean a lot
of boys to men. That does a lot of the
talking for you right there, So you can you can
go with that. Okay, that's the one. I'm another one
that came to mind. Okay, Careless Whisper.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
See you're see the only problem with Careless Whisper or
some Kenny g. You can't get too sexual with your song.
I mean I guess you could. It depends on who
you're talking to right right. But like, this is apologetic,
This is I want you back in my life because
I'm only thinking about our relationship and not some other
parts of our relationship. Careless Whisper is a little too like.
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I don't know, man, I don't know if it hits
the more. Come on now, Oh my god, hey there,
de light Shoppy, I'm leaving you. I'm I'm calling the
police if you play me some hey there, Delilah to
get me back. I'm calling the police, and I'm calling
my lawyer for a restraining order. Here's a couple of
text messages that we got in Jordan c going with
Jerald Lavert made to love. You can't go wrong with
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Jerald Lavert shintown Steve. Also, when he was texting some
other Panthers players, are you up? He said, I might
have sent a text to Mingo, but then quickly responded
with oops, my bad, wrong person.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, for sure, that's one you want to take back.
If you can unsend it quick enough, then that's the
one you want to understand. They have that feature. Go
ahead and exercise that feature. Now.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Vin Greasy has a really good one. Most people might
call it a cliche, but I think it's a great one.
Just the Two of Us song by Bill Withers and
Grover Washington Junior in nineteen eighty is what he says,
just the two of Us. I know it is a
classic cliche. You don't really listen to the lyrics like that.
I think Bill Withers is one of the great songwriters
of all time, and I think even with that kind
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of mainstream hit, Buddy Got Me Back, if you want
to play it, see Will.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Made that a father and son on family song for me.
I know, But but That's that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's the mood right like it's I'm telling Bill Withers
he wasn't talking about his father.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, he did a great Bill Withers man. Rip Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We have HJ writing in Boys to Men on Ben
de Knee has to be on the list. Many people
writing in Barry White. Yeah, yeah, I can't get enough
of your love, Barry White. It's going to be hard
to say no to all of me. John Legend, We're
scrolling wall, says I'm playing Jodasy till.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
The draws fall off. There's a lot of Jodasy on
the line.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
We are in the Queen City, we are, and I
got a Queen City mentioned as well for Labradado, says
Michael Bolton. When a Man Loves a Woman, that's the
song I would play. That's gonna work a little bits
a half man classic and in just a classic period.
But Michael Bolton, it's it's going to be hard to
say no to Michael Bolton as well. Here are the
ones that I wrote down because I ate mild it,
but this is the game, so whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
The songs that I thought of speaking to Charlotte, I
wanted to give a little local flare Anthony Hamilton point
of it all all right, as by Stevie Wonder, okay,
and I gotta have some di'angelo in it, So I
put how does it feel?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Okay, I'm not going now you tread in on the
territory you didn't want to go in. I hear you,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I tried to get all different feelings dremmed up.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
If I have a three song playlist, then, as in
point of it All, it means it means something to me. Right,
I'm playing this because you mean something special? And how
does it feel? I think is in that space of
it means something to me? And you know remember those
times too, I say, yeah, you know where you're gonna go.
You know, by the time are you gonna work it together?
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When you have your first two songs, and then by
the time you get to how does it feel? You're
gonna to reenact the video as well? No, because I
don't look like him. I look like him now, yeah, look,
maybe better to be honest with you. Yeah, but back then,
not even trying to maintain as if you know the
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how does it feel?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Video? I know a lot of our audience certainly does Okay,
so if you know that music video, let's just say
they stop right before you get to that spot on
his body.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You would need to stop well short. Well sure, maybe
the chest yea, that's about it. That video gets awfully
close to the danger zone for D'Angelo. We're stopping well
short before we get there. I'm just letting you know.
But that's third. That's third. The other two are going
to be first. So Hermit Photography says, Walker, put your
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shirt on. I'm with you, oh, lady Williams, because I
love you. Oh yeah, that's a like you have a
you are turning because I love you all the way
up to ten on the boombox. Yeah, that's a hard
song to sing as well. We got neo. Okay, all right,
we will come back to that because we are getting
bombarded with text messages. I love this R and B rady.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I could do this all day, but I can't do
that to the people that are here for sports.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
So let's change gears. Just I'm with that voice. You
kill it. I told Barry White you'd have a lot
of women lighting up your text line. Sound a little
like Berry White at least. Yeah, you kill it.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Now you talk about people that don't look like D'Angelo
and Berry White top of the list. But but maybe
sound can't sing as well? But maybe sound just a
tiny tiny Well, maybe I missed my calling. All Right,
I'm done. Let's move on. Okay, we're done at least
for the moment. Are we and must win territory? Let's
go back to speaking of cliches, my god, the cliche
(39:37):
sports radio topic that we've all come to know and love.
Are we in must win territory here in Carolina or
more specifically Wes It feels like we're in must compete territory.
If they lose to Arizona, I'm not going to feel
great about it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't view Arizona as an amazing team. But Arizona
could make the postseason. I think you had making the
postseasons my preseas teams. Yeah, yeah, so, and I could
see that, Like I like John Gannon and the work
that he's done, regardless of the must win. If they
don't win, then somebody needs to be fired. It is
must compete because if you get beat by honestly man
(40:16):
more than ten points, I'm not going to feel great
about the season ahead.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, and The thing is, man, it's matchups, right, what
do you have coming up? And you've got Atlanta after this?
So if you lose this and go to oh and two,
how confident do you feel about beating a loaded Atlanta team?
So then you stand down the barrel of oh and three. Okay,
so then you got New England and Miami, two winnable games,
But that puts you in a territory to where definitely
you talking about heads, rolling, embarrassment, all of the different
(40:45):
things that will come with that if you lose one
or both of those games to New England and Miami.
And so this is a huge game for Carolina, and
I guess at this point you want to at least
show well. You want to come out and be competitive.
You don't want to give up two hundred yards rushing
at four or five yards a clip and all of
that type of stuff. And so you know, if you
don't get this one done, you come home for Atlanta.
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But tell me what Panthers fan out there at oh
and two, especially if it looks the way it looked
in game one, you feel good about coming back and
dealing with those weapons and a team that's going to
apply pressure on you. Atlanta's gonna be aggressive, They're gonna
put points on the board. You're gonna have to score
points to beat Atlanta. And if you can't do that
this week, you're not gonna feel comfortable about doing it
in week three.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
It's all about the foreshadowing. If you get destroyed by
Jacksonville and you get beat down by Arizona in the
stretch of football that you were supposed to be at
least competent, and we, hey, it wasn't crazy to think
the Panthers could go to and oh I didn't have
them to and oh, but I thought it wasn't crazy.
And then you get beat down by your first two opponents,
and it's the Falcons and the Patriots and the Dolphins
(41:49):
who look very beatable. You're probably at home. You're probably
going to be a favorite if the Dolphins continue to
show what they did against Indianapolis. But yeah, then it
gets real toughboy is Jets Bills, Packers? My god, that
is a tough four game stretch that I would expect
you not to only get beat down by twenty but
maybe even allowing forty peoples.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And then people And that's the thing, man, It just
continues to snowball because you look at New Orleans you're like, oh,
that's an easy win, is it? At this point? Is
it like if you come to that game with one win,
no wins, two wins, you can't just waltz in there
and be like, oh, yeah, we're gonna whack New Orleans.
Like no, because at that point you're like, you're on
part with them if they are as bad as you are,
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and that game is a fifty to fifty game.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Walls is writing in sounds like every game is a
must win. It's a must compete, must compete. Yes, seven
oh four, five, seven ninety six, ten, Sid thirty two
rights instead of very Arry White Walker is his little
brother barely white?
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Oh dropped? That was what it was once upon a time. Okay, Okay,
it wasn't West Live, it was there was a drop
that shroppy win in our archives. All right, last few
songs before we move on to the campus corner and
play ballin or Fallin' otis Redding wolf Pack.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
James writes, try a little tenderness. If you can sing it,
then she's coming back. If you can't, then you're gonna
lose her for good. So it's a risk, but I
do like the song choice five Oho one says kiss
on my list again. A lot of people writing in
Neo's that's got to be my age.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
People for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Seven oh four saying Billy Vera and the Beaters, what
would you do at this moment? Phil Collins, against all odds,
I know that's your boy. You probably get west back.
You probably get west back if you play some Phil Collins.
All right, let's take a visit to the campus ConA
falling or Falling Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFZ
For Walker.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Only Got Sports Radio ninety two point seven half m
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Cy Fine, he's the Wesson Walker Show. Even a crowd, No,
let's come in.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
There, Wess and Walker Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ.
Appreciate everybody joining us in the midday. Hopefully you do
every weekday as always from twelve to three pm. We
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appreciate you guys also texting in on the FanDuel text
line seven oh four five seven oh ninety six ten.
Again that number is seven oh four five seven oh
ninety six ten. Appreciate Shrappy also helping us out flounder
out again today, So Shroppy back in the bus driver's seat,
gonna be helping us out all day to day. And
then who knows about Friday? I know, Wes, this is
(01:02):
essentially your Friday. This is going to be a theme
on Thursdays for the college football season. So on Thursdays
now the one o'clock hour becomes the bit hour. Games
bang bang bang, one o'clock. We go balling or falling,
we go top ten, we go fire or fizzle, and
then we'd go back to you like.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Mike Tyson body shot up. Yeah, like somewhat of.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Your normally scheduled programming the rest of the way, so
the one o'clock hour, it's a wild one on these Thursdays.
And look, I will say before we get started, it
does feel like we should address some of what's happening
today and some of the happenings on September tenth, Yesterday.
Today is a hard day for a bunch of different reasons.
It's nine to eleven. It's the fifty first anniversary of
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the deadliest plane crash in Charlotte history, to which a
new memorial was constructed this week at Airport Overlook Park,
and conservative political commentator Charlie Kirk was murdered after being
shot and died within a few hours of sustaining injuries. Yesterday,
of course, we also have yet another school shooting. This
day is going to mean something very powerful. It's going
to mean something very different to all of you. I'm
(02:08):
not going to pretend to know exactly how you feel.
I don't want to denigrate nor repeat the frequent messages
you've already heard that you agree with or that you
disagree with. There are some items maybe worth touching, but
not worth exploring on this format. I think this is
one of those times. So whatever today means to you,
I respect it within reason, and we're going to give
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you what your normal West and Walker show is on
a Thursday.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah. Man, We're going to try to do our best.
It's a heavy day that a lot of people will
never forget. A lot of lives lost, man, and so
shout out to those who lost loved ones and you know,
everybody out there today. Man. Like I said, it's a
crazy world that we live in. And you know, all
we can do is try to make you, you know,
feel as good as we can for these three hours.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So come along the ride with us if you want to,
and we appreciate everybody that is on board riding the bus.
Let's get off the bus, Let's open up the doors.
Let's pull up to the scene.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Do you know what to do? We look good getting
off the bus.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Dave Canalis talked about the messaging and the mood within
the locker room yesterday shop. If you don't mind pulling
that audio up, I would like to hear from the
Panthers head coach on how the Panthers players are responding
and how they're challenging each other after they got borderline
embarrassed is it borderliners? It just outright embarrassed against Jacksonville.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah, embarrassed because I would say, even though the score
wasn't as bad as it could have been, when you
get run on for two hundred plus yards, that's embarrassing.
You got foot splitting you. Okay, there's no way around it.
When you get physically pushed around. I think it's one
thing if a team throws for three hundred and fifty
or four hundred on you, it's different than when you
just get physically pounded.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, so embarrassed. We're going with outright. You got embarrassed
in week one, you open up the season, So let's
move on and discuss what Dave Canal has had to
say about what everybody is responding with in that Panther's
locker room.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah. Focused, you know, urgency.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I think you know, when you play a game like that,
it's like all the guys are it means something to them.
You know, they were a little bit testy with each other.
I don't mind saying that. I like seeing that it
matters to them. They care, and that's the type of
focus and energy that we need, the type of passion
that it takes to continue to grow our schemes to
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continue to play together, it requires that type of accountability
with each other.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
These are the types of comments that get a lot
of eye rolls from fans because ultimately what happens, fans
just want results. But I'm actually not here to give
an eye roll. I do want my team responding this
way because we could be real cynicals. Oh who cares,
They're just looking for a paycheck. It's whatever. This is
what the coach is going to say. Blah blah blah
blah blah. It's all lip service. Except I do take
what Dave Canalis says seriously in that regard. I don't
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think the players in that locker room come at it
with any indifference. I think they care. I don't think
they want to give you another performance like they did
against Jacksonville. I respect the way that they are responding
to what we are discussing to be an outright embarrassment,
and so I'm glad that they're responding this way. Ultimately,
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you can't only score a handful of points against Arizona,
and if you get beat down in two weeks consecutively
to open up the season, then we might just see
some people get fired like, I don't know, man, I
don't want to say it's rock bottom already. It's not that,
but there's going to be some changes coming about. I
like the way they're responding well.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Unlike other sports, we know, the NFL a lot of
their contracts they are incentive base. There's only one player
in the NFL that has a fully guaranteed contract, so
you have to go out there and earn it every
single week. So that kind of eliminates a lot of
the indifference. The guy's going out there not caring this that,
and the third because you'll be out of a job.
Does it happen, Yes, it does, but still the NFL,
you've got to earn your money. And also too for
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these players that have been here for quite sometimes, you know,
you get tired of being a laughing stock. You can
say what you want all day, but if you sit
there and you just have a person insol to all day,
and you sit in front of them and just listen
to insults, at some point, you're gonna turn around and
you're gonna have something to say, or even more than that.
And so these guys are the same way. It's the
same story, especially with the fact that you come out
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with optimism in your first game. You feel like this
season is going to be different, this defense is going
to be different, We're different. And then you come out
and see the same results. That's unnerving. That's aggravating to
a lot of people. So for these guys to come
out and it looked like much of the same, even
though they have new faces and all of these things,
that's going to frustrate you. So yes, it's going to
bring out the emotions of players playing in such a
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physical violence sport.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
This is where your culture is supposed to take over.
If you're fixing it, then it's supposed to look different
in week two, Week three, and so on and so forth.
Because you can have a good culture and get embarrassed
every once in a while. That's gonna happen because football
is weird. Yes, because a handful of mistake might just
take place in one individual game and it doesn't mean
that you're sorry. It just means that you had a
(07:05):
terrible game. If you do it consistently, then it means
you're sorry. And I don't want a sorry football team.
I really hope that we don't have that over there.
This is where your culture is supposed to fix itself,
and this is what Dan Morgan has been trying to
do each of the last couple of seasons. I think
you have a few players that care so much that
they're not going to allow that to happen again in
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consecutive weeks. The way that they've drafted, the way that
they've signed certain players. I look at a Tershawn Wharton,
who might not be the most gifted defensive tackle. He's
a worthwhile player that deserves a bunch of snaps in
the NFL. But this is someone that won. We talked
about it in blueprint. Let's just call him an impressive
physical specimen, just kind of wild. Somebody that big could
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be that muscular. But also the thing I'm looking at
with Turshawn Wharton is the fact that he was undrafted,
had to get it out of the mud and then
get real playing time on a Super Bowl champion team
like Kansas City that I want. In the trenches, he's
not going to be playing, So who's going to pick
up for him? Is Bobby Brown made of that? I
think Derek Brown is made of that. On the offensive line,
(08:09):
Robert Hunt seems like a leader, Damian Lewis seems like
a leader when we hear him vocal on blueprint, the
guys you drafted t MAC has been nothing but coachable.
According to all reports, Nick Gordon is one hundred and
ten percent effort. Have you done enough with your personnel
so that doesn't happen again? Regardless of even talent. So
talent matters, but the attitude coming into this one, yeah, man,
(08:34):
I'm really hoping they don't lay down well.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
And I'll also take it to another level because this
coaching staff too, man, it needs to be you know,
no holes barred when they come out there. I shout
out to the old school movie back in the day,
but that you need to come out as a coaching
staff and have one of your most aggressive game plans
on both sides of the ball. I mean, what do
you have to lose? You looked at as one of
(08:56):
the worst teams, if not the worst team in football.
So to me, for this coaching they need to call
a very aggressive game plan. They need to come out
and be at their best because if you want the
players to be at their best, for one, they can
feel from the coaches. They can tell from the play
calls that oh yeah, coaches on one to day he
believes in us, and not to say that the coaches don't,
but I just think at this point it's time to
(09:17):
start going out there and just throwing a kitchen sink
at things and trying to make some things happen. Manufacture
some good fortune if you will. All right, So can
you manufacture some good fortune by playing some of the
younger players. This was the comment that got the most
attention in the first press conference after that loss against Jacksonville. Shop,
let's go ahead and play his follow up on that
(09:37):
with some of the younger players and whether or not
we can expect them to play a little more in
this game against Arizona.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Yeah, I was honestly just addressing a question. You know,
our staff knows. We all know here we are developmentally minded.
That's our philosophy. Whether that goes with our staff, raising
and teaching our staff, or whether that's with all of
our players.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You get forty six.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
Guys on GA or special teamers, you got forty three.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
These guys all.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Have to play at some point, you know, And so
I was really just kind of talking about that, like,
these are the guys. They're all going to have to
play at some point, you know, And just continuing to
pour into them because the opportunities here we go. We
have an opportunity now Turk Wharton all of a sudden
is not here now, Jayden Krummedy has to play a
bigger role, you know. And that's that's kind of what
I was alluding to, you know, and just giving a
(10:23):
little bit of reference and background from all.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Right, Jaan Krummedy not the younger player that I thought
he was referencing. I thought it might be Nick Gordon
or Aman Miel and maybe Lathan Ransom, but Krummedy might
be the guy, which I guess makes sense to look
for bigger bodies to be a part of the rotation
if a bigger body is going to be out for
two to four weeks. Dave Canalis is right, he was
just answering the question. It was a pointed question, right,
Younger players didn't get a lot of snaps. Is that's
(10:47):
something you want to change moving forward? He said, I'm
going to encourage at Gero Averro. He didn't say his
name specifically, but I'm going to encourage the defensive staff
to play some of those younger guys. What did you
think of his comment here? Addressing his first comment on Monday.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, I just think that coach canalis Man, he's looking
for answers anywhere he can get him, and I think
he wants to find out what some of these young
players have at the end of the day. And so
are they ready to get in there and play. Maybe
maybe not, But you know, should some of them maybe
get in their situationally in points where you know that
they feel confident in going out there and executing their assignment,
(11:22):
then yeah, I think you can start to work some
of these guys in yet, unless it's just to a
point where you just don't feel confident at all that
they understand the scheme, because we know that a lot
of other things come into it as well if you're
not quite fully understanding of what's going on, and you
get out there and the nerves get to going and
things get to going fast. Because like I said, this
is not preseason, this is a different speed, this is
(11:44):
a different tempo. You're going to get way different looks
and way more exotic things offensively and defensively than what
you got in the preseason. And so that's the thing
that you have to think about too when you decide
to put these young players out there. But I think
coach Canalys is here for it and he wants to
be able to have some stars, some difference makers can emerge.
I do.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, this is the one worth exploring, This very notion
of playing the younger players versus playing the vets. What
does Dave Canalis want versus what does a Gero Averro want?
I reference the other day that these guys are on
a little different timelines. Jero Rivero has some real urgency
to win right now and perform, where Dave Canalis, Yeah,
(12:26):
for sure, there's a sense of urgency for him to
perform as well. He wants to win, he wants to compete.
But if both of these units, offense and defense, they
don't perform up to our expectations, there's one guy that's
going to lose his job first, and that's a Vera.
We've already talked about that. So the timelines are interesting
to explore here. The other thing is, I will give
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Dave Canalis credit in putting his money where his mouth is.
You just have to go back to last year to
give some evidence as to him, you know, exercising what
he preaches. He did play some of the younger guys
last year wide receiver corps was pretty young. Now you
have a lot of options there, but you mixed the
veterans in alongside some of the younger players, and we
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got to see Jalen Coker go out there and perform
quite well. He played Jalen Coker. He was playing well,
but remember Jalen Coker was off the team for a
little while. He wasn't a starter right away, so he
eventually went with the guy that he thought was more
talented and wanted to develop. J T. Sanders getting some
real run over Tommy Tremble, who was a good athlete,
(13:30):
good physical blocker, but probably limited. And we're like, okay,
let's just throw j T. Sanders out there and give
him some snaps right away. Yeah, you could argue that
there's not many options, but there are a couple, and
yet he went with that anyway, So I will he
can point to that when talking with Avero and saying
I did it, and there was a lot of pressure immediately.
I do want to see Scorton a little more. I
(13:52):
do want to see Ransom a little more, and Wes
it would be different if these guys were just awesome
that are ahead of Scorton and Ransom, they're not right.
Like Cocher played. Guess what, turns out he's actually one
of the better players at his position, and we couldn't
see that until he was out there on Sundays. Maybe
that's the case for Ransom, Maybe that's the case for Scrton. Yes,
(14:13):
maybe that's the case for Scrting. But we're not going
to know unless they play a decent amount of snaps
and even if they don't show it against Arizona. This
is the part where you do have to give these
younger guys some time if you are what Dave Canallys says,
developmentally minded.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's a long season, man, and every team they're going
to have some players emerged throughout the season. That's a fact.
That's just how it is in the NFL. So for
the Panthers, can you find some diamonds in the rough
during the season, because the more things don't get better
than the more you are going to have to try
and dig. And again, another word that we're using a
lot today is manufacturing. Gonna have to try to manufacture
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to find some new guys who can step in there
and play.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
It's usin Walker Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFNZ.
Speaking of games, I got kind of a game coming
up in the next second.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Let's play a game you want to play? You up?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know that text that you send when you're thinking
about that extra special someone that is lifecs. Yeah, well,
well just maybe special at some time, but you're thinking
about them. It's a rough night, it's a rough day,
and they're not in your life anymore, and so it's
just it's in your brain. It's in your mind, and
then you go ahead and press send you up. Are
we sending you up text to Adam Thielen? Were you
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sending hey, ikey, Josh Nyman? It's not cunning you up?
Who are we sending you up text messages to? That's
what we discussed coming up next. That's Radio ninety two
to seven WFNZ. A lot of people sending in the
(15:53):
U up text on the FanDuel text line seven oh
four five seven oh ninety six y ten UFC Pillow
Fights sent this went in. I don't have this name
down on the rundown. I should have put it down though,
he said, I'm sending a U up text to Shack
and Josie Jewel because something else is needed at linebacker.
I have Jadevion Clowney on the list also, and it's
(16:16):
not who I thought I was going to lead the
segment off with. But let's just stay here while we're here. Shack,
Josie Jewel, Jadevion Clowney. Three defenders that you had on
your team last year. Yes, on a defense that was
not good. Shack was hurt, so he wasn't even really
on the defense last year because he was injured. This
team at linebacker is struggling, struggling mightily. Josie Jewel, you
(16:41):
don't really put on the Panthers because he got hurt.
The only thing you would put on the Panthers there
is that they were trying to see if he would
be healthy enough. They decided right at the deadline, all right,
we'll move on. Josie Jewel's not even playing on any
things on a team right now because of the concussion
like symptoms that he had continued to experience for quite
some time. So really we can just put Shack and
Clowney on the list. Clowney visited Dallas within the last
(17:03):
couple of days. It does not look like something is
going to get done between Dallas and Clowney. But Clowney
was one of the better defenders on what was a
bad defense last year. Weser you sending you up text
to Shaq Thompson and Jadevian Clowney right now.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Uh No, because you were a part of the defense
that gave up over a three thousand yards rushing last year.
You know, you had a couple of spurts like the
Kansas City game, but for the most part, they were
a part of one of the worst defenses in NFL history.
And I just don't see them as the type of
difference makers that could come in and correct that. Because
you were part of the you know, you were at
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the scene of the crime last year when the defense
was continually getting ran over, run through, run around. I
don't even know what else you could put with it.
Ar says they should have never let go of Clowney.
I feel like his experience would be valuable. I think
for me, I look at this very similarly to the
way I look at the offensive line for the Houston Texan.
(18:00):
Larimi Tunzell is a good tackle in this league.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
They got rid of him because he was a part
of an offensive line that was absolutely terrible at pass protection,
but Laramie Tunseell despite the penalties, which is just a
nuisance that he brings, but it's still a very good
pass protector. You wouldn't put all of the pass protection
issues on one of the better pass protectors in football.
But they decided to trade him because they just wanted
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to complete overhaul. A lot of people questioned that move,
like okay, and he is one of the better guys.
Clowney's not as good as Laramie Tunsell at his position.
Tunzel is better, But I also don't put all of
the responsibility on Clowney, and I do think he would
be a better edge rusher than what we have right now.
Right now on September eleventh, twenty twenty five, I think
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Clowney would be the best player in a room full
of all of the Panthers edge rushers. S Gordon has
higher upside as it currently stands Oman Meellen might depending
on how good you feel about him. Wanham had the
two games last year and then that was about it.
Pat Jones had a nice run stop win rate in Minnesota.
The sacks were, you know, apparently hustled sacks. Whatever that matters,
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but you get the idea. So if you are desperate
for some edge help and that's the best edge defender
that you have in that room, then I would understand
people sending some U up text but they wanted to
save the money and they decided to not go after
anybody else outside of what they have currently. And maybe
it's because, sorry, I'm starting to I'm starting to wander
(19:32):
down a road that I see like a different kind
of light take at the end of this tunnel. But
now I'm starting to connect playing some of the younger guys. Right,
it makes sense when you bring Clowney into the fold
here that Dave Canalis wants to play some of the
younger guys, because why else would you get rid of
your better edge rusher. He's better than Wantam, He's better
(19:52):
than Pat Jones, So why else would you get rid
of Clowney if you were just gonna sit scorting and
ow Man Yellen and they were going to play like
thirty snaps combined. So that's another argument to play some
of these younger guys. But that's why I would understand
sending the U up text to Cloud Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
And I mean because the thing is you got to
ask yourself, like, what do you feel like that he
will come in and do because again, you know, I
just historically bad all the way around last year, and
I mean they just kind of points yards everything you
could think of, and so I get it. And you know,
part of the Tounsil deal too was money, because that's
always involved. They didn't want to extend him and kind
(20:28):
of hinder some of their development going forward paying him
as a premier left tackle in this league. But I
just think that, you know, when you talk about bringing
back some of these players, you got to ask yourself, Okay, well,
what really can they do? I equated to maybe you're
eating a bowl of porridge that is nasty. I bring
up the porche because of my man that had the
fifty thousand dollars collection. That story was in my head.
(20:51):
But you're eating a bowl of porge and it's not
very good. And then somebody brings you like two or
three French fries throughout you eating that, so you're like,
all right, this is you know, this is decent. This
makes the meal a little better, but it's really not
doing it. I'm trying a horrible defense. And then you
bring back some average players to come and play in
it that aren't going to really make that much of
(21:13):
a difference. They're going to get out there and more
than likely they're going to be drugged down with the
rest of them, So their play is not going to
elevate and they're not going to elevate anybody.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
The Shaq Thompson one, to me, is maybe a little
more dire than Clowny because at least you have a
couple of other guys that you can go to at edge.
And I'm not mistaken Shack for being a member of
the all time linebacker history that Carolina has. But he's
better than Trevin Wallace, He's better than Christian rose Boom.
If he put up great stats film that these guys
(21:45):
were putting up, then I would be here for Like, man,
it's time to move on from Shack.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Shaq was injured.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
So if you just want to get rid of an
injured player all the time, I get that, Like we
can't keep playing this song and dance, But put all
the linebackers in a room, Shack is actually like, by
far the best life in that room of all these linebackers.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah, I mean, if you had to pick somebody to
try to bring in, I mean, Shaq was a decent
run defender. The pass cover has definitely left a lot
to be desired. But if you wanted to bring in
one of the better run defenders to get an incremental
improvement as far and also to knowledge of the defense,
kind of knowing where to be and things like that,
he would be an upgrade over Trevin Wallace. So yeah,
(22:23):
if you wanted to send a U up text to
a Shaq Thompson, maybe especially if the health is good
and he's moving decently, then yeah you could. You could
probably do that. I'll give you a guy.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Well, of course, you know you send that up text
to Luke Keigley. Well, I mean only every day you
pocked at his house, you pucked at his house, knocking
on the door. I mean, it's the one that got away.
I'm sending him away. I haven't stopped thinking about him. Yeah,
you know, I haven't stopped shrinking about him. Right, Okay,
it's Luke Keikley. He's gone. He left me way too soon.
So Shaq, you know where he is now? Of course,
(22:55):
Carolina North. He's in Buffalo. Yes, so even if you
wanted him, you can send him the up tech. But
he's responding. I got somebody. It's time to move on.
That's how he's responding. I think you're probably sending a
U up text to Ikey Iakwanu okay, because he's somebody
that you might have taken a break from for a
brief moment in time, just because of circumstances, really it
(23:15):
being the appendectomy. But I wonder how much money yosh
Niman earned Ikey, And I heard Kyle phrase it that
exact way, but it's something I was thinking about also.
Yosh Nyman in Week one against Jacksonville gave up the
second most amount of pressures in all of Week one,
and that was tied with Fashionu from the Jets, Jones
(23:39):
with the Bears, and Hudson and a couple of other players.
But just keeping it simple, Nyman gave up six pressures.
That was the second most allowed in Week one. He
had a terrible pass block in grade. I think you
could see it on the tape, even the throw that
was missed to Hunter Renfro on the left sideline. I
don't blame Bryce Young as much for that specific miss
(24:00):
because the circumstances before that it was it's hard to
step into it. In fact, you can't really step into
it unless you recognize it earlier. But yoas Schneimen gave
up some pressure, Ikya kwanu man, did we learn the
value of him a little more so because of what
we saw against Jacksonville weekwa.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Well, you know, I always say in the NFL, it's
hard to have depth because if you had really good
depth and not gonna be your backups for long okay,
And a lot of times when you can have good depth,
it's maybe because you do have a rookie that's behind
a vet that's better than you thought he was gonna be,
and so maybe you luck up there. But when you
talk about guys that are veterans in this league and
(24:37):
still backups, then you know what you're getting here. Okay,
you're gonna get up and down play. It's gonna be
a seesaw of action with said backup player. So with
jos Shneiman, we already knew what time it was when
he came into the football game, and it was gonna
be a rough ride there, and that's exactly what it was.
So not surprised at all. Maybe maybe you wanted him
to give up four pressures or three pressures instead of
(24:59):
a six steady, It's true that could happen. But you
already know, man, especially with Josh Naiman, with what he's
shown to this point, like he hadn't given us any
semblance of solid play to be able to have some comfort.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
In Yeah, we all want to break Christiensen to start
in that game. And I did think, you know, at
Green Bay he was a decent enough pass blocker and
I thought, okay, we got some depth and it just
hasn't worked out here in Carolina. I wonder if he
loses his backup job to Christiansen, if Ikey has to
miss time again against Arizona, or if I hope this
(25:34):
doesn't go all the way to week three. But Ikey
is doing some nice work. They're optimistic about him being
back in the lineup. So we'll see about the starting
left tackle there. I know, I know you're sending a
barage of you up text messages to this guy, Adam Thielen. Yes,
it's not like he was great against Minnesota. To be fair,
he did have a key drop. They came back anyway
(25:55):
because JJ McCarthy turned it on and turned it on
in the fourth quarter. Impressive stuff in that last fifteen minutes.
Did catch a two point conversion, but feeling would undoubtedly
help this football team. So I guess my question to
you is how many you up text message?
Speaker 1 (26:08):
I mean, you're going into your bag with Adam feeling,
you telling him I'm gonna change. Man. You know, I
went to work on myself. I've been doing all these
things like I'm gonna be better this time, you know,
for you and the kids, Like, you know, just let
me back in the house. I can. I can prove
it to you, like you going into every bit of
what you have going on. Because right now, this team,
(26:29):
outside of Tetoro McMillan, just does not seem to have
someone in that receiving court that can get open on
a consistent basis. You know, maybe, you know, Hunter Renfro
gets himself into the flow a little bit more after
his first regular season action in quite some time, and
maybe he comes out a little bit different this week.
We know that coach Canal has talked about how he
(26:49):
was a little inconsistent, So maybe this is the week
you get the good Hunter Renfro. Maybe this is the
week he has that flashback to Clemson and maybe it
should excite him at the fact that, hey, you know,
Exit isn't taking advantage of this opportunity. I got a
real opportunity here to establish myself as one of the
guys in this receiving corps. And so yeah, man, I
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think that, no doubt about it. You want Adam Feeling
back in the fold because this is a guy. Not
only are you talking about from a production standpoint, but
when you have a player that can get open consistently,
he's going to draw coverage and that's going to help
everybody out. And that's gonna help Bryce get his reads
easier because it's gonna dictate the coverage for the quarterback,
what he's seeing, what's happening post snap. It's gonna help
(27:32):
out some of the other guys too, man. So having
a guy like Feeling in the fold would help in
a lot of ways. So yeah, man, you're going deep
in your I'm sorry bag to try to get this
man back going.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
I love some of the text we're getting, Like I
love it when our listeners understand the assignment tenfold real tar.
He'll said, Wes, you got tank playing in the background.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, man, I mean you're doing it all this time,
You're pacing and all that.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Tim and Statesville says, I'm out in side Luke Keickley's window,
holding the boombox over my head, hoping he comes to
the window. You're throwing the rocks.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Hey, Luke, do you think he would step in and
just be a monster immediately if he came in?
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Do you feel like that football's too hard for you
to be able to do that? But also, Luke is
not your normal linebacker.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I begin to take him like a couple of games.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It might it might take him a little longer to
get to the spot that he's diagnosed where the ball
is going, but he's still going to be on his
way there. Yeah, and Trevin Wallace might not be. In fact,
he would be.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You know, I don't know how long he would last
because he's been out of the game for a while.
But if he's able to be on a field, he
is an immediate upgrade over whatever you have, even sixty
five sixty percent of what he once was, look is
markedly better than what you have, right.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
And look man like, I'm pulling for Trevin Wallace. I
wanted to work. I like the attitude he possesses. He's
got confidence and he cares. It's just it's not working
out right now. I'm hoping that you improve. Yes, a
lot of this is because Trevin Wallace has not been good,
but also a lot of it is because Luke Keickley
is one of the best linebackers of all time. Just
to be clear on why we're saying some of that stuff.
(29:10):
Last point on Fling. We can send all the text,
we can pull out the Monster game, and we can
say that I'm a changed man. I'll be different this time.
I swear. The issue is you don't have any pride
sending those text messages because it's not like you did
anything wrong.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
You did it, got a no contact and you were
just fine. You didn't make any mistakes.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Adam Thelen wanted out because he just wasn't in love
with you, and it's not anything that you did. Just
doesn't have that feeling like he has for Minnesota. So
you can do all of that, have a little bit
of pride, or maybe don't and say, look, I don't
have any pride, Come play with us, and my life
is better with you in it. You got a fourth
(29:53):
round pick. I really do wonder how disgruntled Adam Delen
would have been. Does he want to go back to
Minnesota so badly that he actually like doesn't Jimmy Butler it,
but does he do something anywhere close? Just classic holdout stuff,
classic practice, bad attitude, stuff that starts to weigh on
(30:14):
you goes on. And that's the thing. I don't think
he's that kind of guy. The only thing I'll say
is man like. Dan Morgan was on with Kyle Bailey
for a reason. Dan was not calling other people to
trade Adam Thielen. He was not exploring that. I think,
especially listening to it, he was pretty clear. There wasn't
(30:34):
any of this behind the scenes type of messaging. There
wasn't any subliminal messaging where we have to interpret it
a certain way to understand he was going to be disgruntled.
Dan Morgan told you if we didn't trade him, I
was worried about that kind of situation. He was clear
that he wanted to go to Minnesota last year in
the NFL. Don't have anything to lose. Your wife is
(30:54):
posted on Instagram every day about thanking God she's finally
in Minnesota. I could see it, man, I could see it.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, And that's the thing I would have felt like
with him, he would be an after practice kind of guy,
like he's gonna go out there and be the good soldier,
do what he needs to do, and then he's gonna
come out. I might have to practice and be like,
all right, when are we gonna get this done?
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Last couple here, We definitely want Jalen Coker to come back.
They just needed a little time to explore right now.
But they're coming back. Like it feels tough, but they're
coming back.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah. So you just you know, you're just in the
house right now, and you know you got the tears
flowing a little bit, man, because it's bad outside.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Jalen Coker is on a trip. He just needs to
explore a little bit, but he's coming back, so don't worry.
Same thing with Turk Wharton, I will say, just to
put it in simple terms. I love keeping the theme up,
but just to put it in simple terms, how much
do you think Carolina misses Turk Wharton going into this game?
And how much did they miss him against Jacksonville after
he left? Yeah, they definitely missed him.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Like I said, now, this is a very you know,
temporary type of deal where you aren't worried about it,
but you're still worried about it because you you know,
you still need it. They left an impression on you.
And so that's what Turk Wharton did in his first
game as a Carolina Panther. He left an impression. It
felt like he was one of the defensive guys out
there that was getting it. He felt like one of
the defensive guys that really wanted it. And so a
(32:09):
lot of fans saw that passion from him, and they
saw some of the plays that he made, and so
it hurt them because that's the tease that was. That
was the you know, the hot tease that you hung
out with and you thought it was going to turn
into something, but it quickly dissipated.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It was okay, but maybe they come back a change person.
The theme is hilarious that we're sticking with and people
understand the assignment all right now. I just wanted to
lean all the way into it. All right, people, you
have one song or you have one artist to go
to to get your love interest back. What are you playing?
Seven oh four, five, seven oh ninety six to ten?
(32:47):
You got the boombox, you're at your ex significant other's house. Yeah,
you got one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow?
What are you playing? Let me know? On the FANDUL
text line, we reveal some of our answers on the
other side of the break. It's WESN. Walker Sports Radio
ninety two seven WFZ.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Tropy.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Is this your attempt at saving your relationship with your
ex significant other?
Speaker 1 (33:23):
Is this the song that you're going with? This is
a good one, but I think, I mean I have.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
To go with something like the Moment by Kenny g
or something.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Well, what is like?
Speaker 2 (33:32):
This is Love and Happiness al Green, except it's a
cover from someone who is actually who is the Inner
Dimension cover? Okay, you might as well just go ahead
and play some real al Green. Now, you can't go
wrong if you're just gonna play some Algreen to help
you out. This was the question, okay, because we were
sending you up text to some of the injured and
gone players from this Panthers roster, some Panthers that could
(33:53):
really help Carolina turn things around. We asked, if you
lost your significant other, what is the one song or
the one artist. We can be vague a little bit,
what's the one song or artist that you would play
on the boombox that you have on your shoulder outside
of their house to get them back? Seven oh four
five seven oh ninety six to ten. That's the fandual
text slide. All right, Wes, I know you were thinking
(34:14):
about it. What songs are you playing?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
Immediately? I think about boys to man? I please don't
go Okay, boy, got that one. I mean a lot
of boys to men. That does a lot of the
talking for you right there, So you can you can
go with that. Okay, that's the one. I'm another one
that came to mind. Okay, Careless Whisper.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
See you're see the only problem with Careless Whisper or
some Kenny g. You can't get too sexual with your song.
I mean I guess you could. It depends on who
you're talking to right right. But like, this is apologetic,
This is I want you back in my life because
I'm only thinking about our relationship and not some other
parts of our relationship. Careless Whisper is a little too like.
(34:56):
I don't know, man, I don't know if it hits
the more. Come on now, Oh my god, hey there,
de light Shoppy, I'm leaving you. I'm I'm calling the
police if you play me some hey there, Delilah to
get me back. I'm calling the police, and I'm calling
my lawyer for a restraining order. Here's a couple of
text messages that we got in Jordan c going with
Jerald Lavert made to love. You can't go wrong with
(35:17):
Jerald Lavert shintown Steve. Also, when he was texting some
other Panthers players, are you up? He said, I might
have sent a text to Mingo, but then quickly responded
with oops, my bad, wrong person.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Yeah, for sure, that's one you want to take back.
If you can unsend it quick enough, then that's the
one you want to understand. They have that feature. Go
ahead and exercise that feature. Now.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Vin Greasy has a really good one. Most people might
call it a cliche, but I think it's a great one.
Just the Two of Us song by Bill Withers and
Grover Washington Junior in nineteen eighty is what he says,
just the two of Us. I know it is a
classic cliche. You don't really listen to the lyrics like that.
I think Bill Withers is one of the great songwriters
of all time, and I think even with that kind
(35:57):
of mainstream hit, Buddy Got Me Back, if you want
to play it, see Will.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Made that a father and son on family song for me.
I know, But but That's that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
It's the mood right like it's I'm telling Bill Withers
he wasn't talking about his father.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, he did a great Bill Withers man. Rip Uh.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
We have HJ writing in Boys to Men on Ben
de Knee has to be on the list. Many people
writing in Barry White. Yeah, yeah, I can't get enough
of your love, Barry White. It's going to be hard
to say no to all of me. John Legend, We're
scrolling wall, says I'm playing Jodasy till.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
The draws fall off. There's a lot of Jodasy on
the line.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
We are in the Queen City, we are, and I
got a Queen City mentioned as well for Labradado, says
Michael Bolton. When a Man Loves a Woman, that's the
song I would play. That's gonna work a little bits
a half man classic and in just a classic period.
But Michael Bolton, it's it's going to be hard to
say no to Michael Bolton as well. Here are the
ones that I wrote down because I ate mild it,
but this is the game, so whatever.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
The songs that I thought of speaking to Charlotte, I
wanted to give a little local flare Anthony Hamilton point
of it all all right, as by Stevie Wonder, okay,
and I gotta have some di'angelo in it, So I
put how does it feel?
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Okay, I'm not going now you tread in on the
territory you didn't want to go in. I hear you,
I hear you.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
I tried to get all different feelings dremmed up.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Right.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
If I have a three song playlist, then, as in
point of it All, it means it means something to me. Right,
I'm playing this because you mean something special? And how
does it feel? I think is in that space of
it means something to me? And you know remember those
times too, I say, yeah, you know where you're gonna go.
You know, by the time are you gonna work it together?
(37:46):
When you have your first two songs, and then by
the time you get to how does it feel? You're
gonna to reenact the video as well? No, because I
don't look like him. I look like him now, yeah, look,
maybe better to be honest with you. Yeah, but back then,
not even trying to maintain as if you know the
(38:08):
how does it feel?
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Video? I know a lot of our audience certainly does Okay,
so if you know that music video, let's just say
they stop right before you get to that spot on
his body.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
You would need to stop well short. Well sure, maybe
the chest yea, that's about it. That video gets awfully
close to the danger zone for D'Angelo. We're stopping well
short before we get there. I'm just letting you know.
But that's third. That's third. The other two are going
to be first. So Hermit Photography says, Walker, put your
(38:39):
shirt on. I'm with you, oh, lady Williams, because I
love you. Oh yeah, that's a like you have a
you are turning because I love you all the way
up to ten on the boombox. Yeah, that's a hard
song to sing as well. We got neo. Okay, all right,
we will come back to that because we are getting
bombarded with text messages. I love this R and B rady.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I could do this all day, but I can't do
that to the people that are here for sports.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
So let's change gears. Just I'm with that voice. You
kill it. I told Barry White you'd have a lot
of women lighting up your text line. Sound a little
like Berry White at least. Yeah, you kill it.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Now you talk about people that don't look like D'Angelo
and Berry White top of the list. But but maybe
sound can't sing as well? But maybe sound just a
tiny tiny Well, maybe I missed my calling. All Right,
I'm done. Let's move on. Okay, we're done at least
for the moment. Are we and must win territory? Let's
go back to speaking of cliches, my god, the cliche
(39:37):
sports radio topic that we've all come to know and love.
Are we in must win territory here in Carolina or
more specifically Wes It feels like we're in must compete territory.
If they lose to Arizona, I'm not going to feel
great about it.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I don't view Arizona as an amazing team. But Arizona
could make the postseason. I think you had making the
postseasons my preseas teams. Yeah, yeah, so, and I could
see that, Like I like John Gannon and the work
that he's done, regardless of the must win. If they
don't win, then somebody needs to be fired. It is
must compete because if you get beat by honestly man
(40:16):
more than ten points, I'm not going to feel great
about the season ahead.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Yeah, and The thing is, man, it's matchups, right, what
do you have coming up? And you've got Atlanta after this?
So if you lose this and go to oh and two,
how confident do you feel about beating a loaded Atlanta team?
So then you stand down the barrel of oh and three. Okay,
so then you got New England and Miami, two winnable games,
But that puts you in a territory to where definitely
you talking about heads, rolling, embarrassment, all of the different
(40:45):
things that will come with that if you lose one
or both of those games to New England and Miami.
And so this is a huge game for Carolina, and
I guess at this point you want to at least
show well. You want to come out and be competitive.
You don't want to give up two hundred yards rushing
at four or five yards a clip and all of
that type of stuff. And so you know, if you
don't get this one done, you come home for Atlanta.
(41:07):
But tell me what Panthers fan out there at oh
and two, especially if it looks the way it looked
in game one, you feel good about coming back and
dealing with those weapons and a team that's going to
apply pressure on you. Atlanta's gonna be aggressive, They're gonna
put points on the board. You're gonna have to score
points to beat Atlanta. And if you can't do that
this week, you're not gonna feel comfortable about doing it
in week three.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
It's all about the foreshadowing. If you get destroyed by
Jacksonville and you get beat down by Arizona in the
stretch of football that you were supposed to be at
least competent, and we, hey, it wasn't crazy to think
the Panthers could go to and oh I didn't have
them to and oh, but I thought it wasn't crazy.
And then you get beat down by your first two opponents,
and it's the Falcons and the Patriots and the Dolphins
(41:49):
who look very beatable. You're probably at home. You're probably
going to be a favorite if the Dolphins continue to
show what they did against Indianapolis. But yeah, then it
gets real toughboy is Jets Bills, Packers? My god, that
is a tough four game stretch that I would expect
you not to only get beat down by twenty but
maybe even allowing forty peoples.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
And then people And that's the thing, man, It just
continues to snowball because you look at New Orleans you're like, oh,
that's an easy win, is it? At this point? Is
it like if you come to that game with one win,
no wins, two wins, you can't just waltz in there
and be like, oh, yeah, we're gonna whack New Orleans.
Like no, because at that point you're like, you're on
part with them if they are as bad as you are,
(42:31):
and that game is a fifty to fifty game.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Walls is writing in sounds like every game is a
must win. It's a must compete, must compete. Yes, seven
oh four, five, seven ninety six, ten, Sid thirty two
rights instead of very Arry White Walker is his little
brother barely white?
Speaker 1 (42:48):
Oh dropped? That was what it was once upon a time. Okay, Okay,
it wasn't West Live, it was there was a drop
that shroppy win in our archives. All right, last few
songs before we move on to the campus corner and
play ballin or Fallin' otis Redding wolf Pack.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
James writes, try a little tenderness. If you can sing it,
then she's coming back. If you can't, then you're gonna
lose her for good. So it's a risk, but I
do like the song choice five Oho one says kiss
on my list again. A lot of people writing in
Neo's that's got to be my age.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
People for sure.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
Seven oh four saying Billy Vera and the Beaters, what
would you do at this moment? Phil Collins, against all odds,
I know that's your boy. You probably get west back.
You probably get west back if you play some Phil Collins.
All right, let's take a visit to the campus ConA
falling or Falling Sports Radio ninety two to seven WFZ
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