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December 19, 2025 • 48 mins

In the final hour of the show, the guys preview the big weekend of college basketball that is on deck, react to some of the best audio from around the Panthers going into the Panthers-Bucs matchup and give you their picks for the Panthers-Bucs game.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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be a game, right. It can be the improvement and
succeeding with Sam Donald in those six games. It can
be the rushing defense. It can be allowing Jontey Foreman
to floorish. It could be a whole bunch of difference.
It's West Well, good lord, you took everything we could say.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
That's exacular, that one.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
About me.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, welcome back to the West and Walker Show. And
we have entered at two o'clock hour with a song.
Normally I feel like that when we go off the
beaten path, there's a reason for it.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
So fine trying a new Friday song. Are you a
big fan of the Kenny Loggins song?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I'm all right, well listen, Kenny Loggins is my guy.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's funny you played at the thing you said that, yes, yes, yes,
I love.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Me some Kenny Loggins.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I did not recognize this song. I'm a Highway to
the danger Zone type of guy. But yes, man, Kenny
Loggins always good with me.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Okay, do you know what movie it's from though? That song? Yes?
I do not, Well, it would be The Great Golf Movie.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
It's the little gofer that gets to dance around a
little bit when they played this song. So anyways, yes,
I knew that you were Kenny Loggins guy, but really,
so are you a Kenny Longs Kenny Loggins one song
guy or you Kenny?

Speaker 3 (01:34):
I like that, I like playing with the boys. I
like that song a lot as well. So I'm a
two songs Kenny, all right. Good to know the one
with the talent he demonstrates on those two songs.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
It is top notch, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
So what type of talent will be demonstrated this weekend?
Because we've got some pretty good college basketball matchups on
the slate, and the rank matchup that we have to
discuss first is Duke vers versus Texas A and M.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
They will be playing from the garden.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Excuse me, Texas Tech, not Texas A and M thinking
about the college football playoffs, but Texas Tech. They'll play
Their duke has already played in the garden this year
against Kansas, getting a victory there, and they're gonna have
to be better than they were against Lipscomb. Okay, I
don't know if they were overlooking them or what, but
twenty two turnovers from six different players, Lipscomb was able

(02:23):
to capitalize twenty seven points off of those turnovers. Texas
Tech is two and two in neutral site games this season,
and they did start the preseason number ten, but they
lost to rank fos Illinois's Purdue in Arkansas, and they
have dropped their place in the AP pole. But they
are coming off of one on one ninety victory over
Northern Colorado. So what do we think about this matchup?

(02:45):
Is this just going to be another team that gets
put in the Duke Blue Devil's meat grinder?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yeah, I mean I think Duke they're playing at a
really high level. Do I think they're as good as
last year? No, I know that's been somewhat of a conversation,
But I do think that this is still a due
team that can get the job done against all.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Of the opponents on their schedule.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Win in doubt go with the Blue Devils because that's
what they've been doing down the stretch, and I think
that's probably the biggest difference early in both of these seasons.
Early you tried to see what Cooper Flagg could do
for you and for all of the things that Cooper
Flagger Cooper Flagg, excuse me, I don't know why. I
just decided to make it Frogger the Flagger, the flagger.
Cooper Flagg is good at he did not hit a

(03:27):
game winning shot. Sorry for all the Duke fans that
are now reminded of bad things that happened against Houston
at the end of last year. It was it was
the bookend type of thing for him. At the beginning
of the year, had a couple turnovers, didn't come through
in the clutch at the very end, same thing for
Cooper Flagg.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Hate to see it.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Boozer Is Boozer is doing that now against Lipscomb. I
think I don't know who was mentioning it. Maybe I
saw it on social media where they're Cooper Comighty Boozer.
Boozer is saying, hey, can somebody help me? Is anybody
else going to step up? And then in the second
half they finally found some answers. It's a lot on
his shoulders, but he's shown that he can handle it,

(04:05):
even against a team like Michigan State. Who looks fantastic
so far. Yes, I think Duke is always going to
be the team that I.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, because I gotta admit, man, when you talk about
that second guy, Isaiah evans Man, for I thought that
he was on pace to really have a great season
this year. Man, but he's a very inefficient player. So far,
he's only shooting thirty nine percent for the season from
the field. But this is a Texas Tech crew. They've
got three guys you got to worry about. They shoot
forty six percent from the field. Duke is limiting teams

(04:31):
to sixty one points per game. But we know about Topping.
He's one of the best players in the country, averaging
around twenty two points per game. And then you've got
Christian Anderson and Donovan at Well as well. And for
Big Twelve Texas Tech they record eleven threes per game,
that leads the Big Twelve.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
And we know Duke.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
They've got the number one three point field goal percentage
defense in the ACC. So I think that this is
a team despite that, I'm having multiple scorers that can
make it happen and they shoot the bar. Well, it's
hard to bet against this Duke defense.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Fight. How do you see this game plan out.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah, I mean, look, Texas Tech is certainly not as
good as I think people thought they were going to be.
I mean, offensively they are, but defensively they have just
not been able to really find anything to slow down
some of the opponents that they've gone up against.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
JT. Toppin is incredibly dangerous.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
That's the one guy that you're worried about if you're Duke,
is how do you put how do you take him
out of the game. I mean, he's had two thirty
point games so far this year and has looked amazing.
So I think if you are Duke, that's your main
goal is to take him away and then yet maybe
find that that secondary scorer that can really help out
Cameron Boozer, that consistent secondary scorer, because you're getting too

(05:47):
acc time here. So I mean, look, the ACC not
the toughest conference out there. It's not the Big Twelve,
it's not the SEC, but it certainly is a much
better conference this year. So I think that's what you're
looking for in this game if you're Duke. I ultimately
don't think that Duke should be too worried about it
going in though, because I do think they'll come out

(06:09):
with a victory.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, and you know Duke's schedule. Man, you just feel
like that they're a brand that you can trust right
now because they keep finding ways to win tough games.
So in the top forty KIMPOM matchup, Ohio State is
number thirty nine and UNC is number twenty seven, and
they will be facing their final power for a non
conference team in the buck Eyes. And a homecoming for

(06:31):
Caleb Wilson, who just recently won a state championship at
Holy Innocence Episcopal School earlier in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
That is a name, Holy Innocence, right, so that's what
people call me, you know, oh, your Holy Innocence, all right.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
So the tar Heels they will have to worry about
Bruce Thoorton though from the Ohio State buck Eyds. Okay,
he's six y two guard, but he's averaging twenty two
points a game, eighth in the country, shooting fifty percent
from three. The buck Eyes have split their last four games.
And also a little bit of good news could be
coming to North Carolina. It's that Tremble returned to full

(07:07):
contact practice for the first time since fracturing his arm
and a workout back in November, so we'll see if
they play him. Not sure if they will. This is
a game you feel like Carolina should win, but I
think that with some of the performances we've even seen
from them lately, like the South Carolina Upstate game, where
you felt like that they should have won by more
than what they did, you feel like that this game
might end up being a battle that we didn't expect.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I'd like for them to show up as soon as
the balls in the effort tip, and that hasn't happened
every single time out there. In the first half, second half,
they figure it out. I don't think it's because of
a lack of effort. It's just really a lack of
executing in the first twenty minutes. Just hasn't happened nearly.
Focus it's really what I've yeah, because they're still flying
around for the basketball. They still try to figure stuff out.

(07:49):
I don't think Hubret Davis I haven't heard them question
the effort of his team. I think you're probably right.
Focus is the right word to use. But they are
really talented. I heard Ovius and Jillio talking about this
with Brendan Marx when he was on their pod. Who
has the better roster overall between Duke and North Carolina.
Quite interesting. Last year it was very clearly Duke. This

(08:09):
year you have Boozer, and then I do like Isaiah Evans,
I like Gong, but I like Malik Brown, but it
doesn't feel like it fits Offensively, They're not defensively, Hell
yeah they are, but Carolina's got some good defensive pieces.
And then I'm even looking at the field goal attempts
taken by Duke and North Carolina. Boozer just blows everybody

(08:32):
else out of the water. It's just everything runs through him.
And if it doesn't run through Boozer, then here's Slim
Evans taking shots from three. You have three guys on
this Carolina basketball team that have taken at least one
hundred field goal attempts, so they can spread it around
a little bit more, and they rely on even some
secondary opportunities or Caleb Wilson just being a madman attacking

(08:54):
the rim. All that to say, even with them not
winning by as large of a margin as you would
like against some of the lesser competition, they still find
a way to turn it on in the second half too.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I think that can happen even against a good Buck Hutch.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, I think that North Carolina should be able to
get the job done here. I think that Ohio State
could be pesky them dealing with the cat like Bruce
Thornton in the way that he can score the basketball.
But Carolina then another team that they seem like when
the chips are down, that they can find a way.
But I do think that this is going to be
somewhat of a test find out.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
How do you see it? And what have you heard
about Seth Tremble because we know that you a lot then.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Well, yeah, we haven't heard much honestly on Seth as
to exactly when the timeline is that he's going to return,
doesn't it You know, has not had a brace here
at the last two games. Looks like he is getting
close to coming back. But I guess the big question
is do you want to bring him back in a
game of this magnitude or are you wanting to sort
of ease him back in. To me, I think he's

(09:52):
a good enough player where you would love to have
him out there for this game, especially to be able
to guard on the perimeter and take away the ribble drive.
That's one of the biggest things that Caroline has got
to do in this game because this is a team where, yeah,
you've got a three point shooter and Bruce Thornton, you
also got a team that's eighth in the country in
terms of efficiency inside the arc, so they are shooting

(10:13):
the ball at a really high rate inside the arc.
Caroline has got to make sure that they don't go
off in this game. And it's been easy at times
here recently for teams to drive the basket and either
kick out for outside shots or have easy finishes. That's
going to be one of the biggest things that Caroline
has got to avoid in this game.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
One thing I'll be looking at when Seth Trimble does return.
This was a big time four arm injury. We know
about how weird of an injury it was, how scary
of an injury it was happening in the weight room.
But Seth Trimble, he is a physical basketball player. I
don't think because of the attitude that he brings he's
going to shy away from contact. But a couple of
things I am worried about is one, are you going

(10:53):
to be as aggressive attacking the basket because that's where
he's at his best offensively, it's taking you off of
the dribble or cutting just around the basket generally speaking,
and getting to the foul line because you do take
it right into the bodies of the defenders. Does he
do that as much just early on? At least I
think he'll get to it, But I wonder if there's
any easing in to that skill set. The other thing is,

(11:15):
I don't know how much he's able to get shots up,
so we know that he's not a very good three
point shooter anyway. Is it even worse because he hasn't
been able to get shots up? Upper body injury?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Right?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I mean, is it going to take him a little
while to even get to some level of comfort that
he had and it wasn't even great to begin with
shooting from the perimeter. Still, monster piece that they're getting
back really going to help them defensively, obviously more so
than offensively, but man transition like this is also a
team that hasn't gotten out on the fast break as
you're accustomed to seeing for a North Carolina team. He
helps there. He's a huge piece coming back. Do wonder

(11:49):
about the rust because.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Of the injury. I'm the thing I'm anxious to see too.
With North Carolina.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
You know, you talk about the shooting prowess of Ohio
State and we bought it up earlier this week. I mean,
Carolina's thirteenth in the league. They're shooting twenty three percent
from the three point line and their seventh overall in
field goal percent is so if Ohio State for some
reason should get hot from behind the arc, that could
put Carolina in a little bit of a sticky sitution.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Well, the thing that's crazy is it's really Bruce Thornton.
Outside of him, there isn't really a guy that's shooting
the ball lights out from me on the arc, But
that's a guy that can hurt you.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So yeah, you've got to have some guys on the perimeter.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
That's the thing we talked about, how Carolina has a
secondary scorer or unlike Duke. The only problem is they
might only have two scorers because there are times where guys,
just like the other day against the Tennessee State, do
absolutely nothing. Your third leading scorer had seven points in
that game, so forty six combined by the Bigs. But

(12:44):
if they're able to take away even one of those guys,
then all of a sudden you're getting into a rock fight.
So somebody else has to step up here, whether it's Luca,
Jonathan Powell, somebody.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
On that perimeter has to be able to make shots,
all right. So Wake and Vanderbilt.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Vanderbilt preseason was eleventh in the SEC preseason poll. Now,
they last won seventy seven to seventy in overtime over Memphis.
But this is a team that they do not yet
have a win over a currently ranked team or top
thirty team in kimpom. And they are the highest rated
SEC team at kimpom, and is now projected to finish

(13:22):
tied to top the league standings alongside of Florida, who's
been having their struggles this year. Wake Forest is coming
off of a game that a team that is sort
of three ball Alliant Reliant only had five the entire
game on twenty one percent shooting against Longwood. Okay, that's
the three hundred and tenth best defense according to kimpom.

(13:44):
And that's a Q four opponent that Wake was favored
to beat by twenty plus points. This is away team
that is very doctor Jeko, mister Hyde. Okay, we know
that they only lost by one to Michigan. They battled
to the end with Texas Tech. They beat Memphis on
the crazy field go to win the game, and even
though Memphis is not good at all, So Wake going
into this game, you just don't know what to expect.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
It's just a wild card of a matchup.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
If I had to pick, I'm gonna go with Vanderbilt
just because that Longwood performance has me, you know, just
very sour right now on the Demon Deacons. But based
off how we've seen them play against top competition this year,
you feel like that this is going to be a
game that more unlikely will go down to the wire.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, that's how Wake Forest has played, even against the
great competition. Losing that game against Michigan by only one point,
you had higher hopes after that, And in reality, you
mentioned some of the losses that they've already had, plus
Vanderbilt's really good basketball team. This is a chance to
turn the steering wheel in the other direction. It's a

(14:49):
monster game, clearly within an eleven to zero Vanderbilt team
out of the respected SEC. It feels like this is
a big time opportunity for Wake because if you look
at the rest of their schedule, but we're about to
get to conference play, and you'll have some good opponents
in the ACC, especially with it being better than last year.
But this is your last chance to have a momentum
building win before you get to conference play, and this

(15:10):
would be a massive victory if they're able to pull
it off. I think Vanderbilt is gonna win again. I
just don't know if I can trust Wake Forest. They
do foul a lot defensively as well, Like it's just
some of the losing type figures that you watch for
college basketball teams, for basketball teams in general. Height, So
you're relying on the three, you give the opposition a

(15:31):
bunch of chances. Okay, you got Juke Harris. Can you
rely on everybody else outside a duke who has been
playing some good basketball for you? Yeah, there's too many
question marks for Wake Forest right now?

Speaker 2 (15:40):
All right? Final, You got any quick thoughts on Wake
and Vandy? YEA, yeah, I think it's going to be
a close game.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
I would not be shocked if Wake won this game
because Pandy is eleven and h they are playing so
over their head that it makes you wonder, is this
the game where all of a sudden they sort of
come back to the pack. Just speaking of Memphis, this
Vanderbilt team just had to go to overtime to beat them.
So I think this is going to be a really

(16:07):
close matchup. I'm you know what I'm gonna say it.
I think wake Forest pulls the upset r.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
I appreciate that the voter support, Okay, and I hope
that that definitely happens as well. And before we get
out of here, uh, news broke that Darren Peterson is
going to be shutting it down, so he will not
be playing in another game for Kansas the rest of
the season.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Wellow that means significant, Okay, yeah, wow, alrighty, that's monstrous.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
That hurts that that hurts because that went over them,
doesn't you know, Unless these guys really are just playing
above their weight class, I could be a team that
could struggle when they get to big twelve plays.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So now what's interesting is because Darren Peterson, Darren Peterson,
you had North Carolina play against Kansas with him having
played and he played very well in that matchup, and
he played against since he's so with Darren Peterson, right,
he played against in C State. If I'm not gonna
say anyways, uh, I don't think he did arreon Peterson,

(17:09):
Yeah he didn't.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
He played, but remember he leaves the game late in
the second half and he wasn't in there for overtime.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
So is there if you're the committee, is there any
college football playoff committee type stuff that's infiltrating college basketball
when you look and you say, hey, at the time,
that was a very different Kansas team that just lost
a top five NBA draft prospect, which I think should
probably go into play.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
But yeah, big time news.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
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Speaker 2 (17:55):
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Speaker 1 (17:55):
That's all the Carolina's personal injury lawyers. And we hurt
out here because we got got Okay, Scott Hughes, I
got got Scott Hughes is not to be trusted on Twitter,
ladies and gentlemen, because he just tweeted out that Darren
Peterson was shutting it down and would not appear in
another game for the Jayhawks. This season. Yeah, that's not
a serious account. Yeah, it's not Darren. He's playing Okay,

(18:17):
that's why I think it took us both by shock.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I didn't even realize that was a thing. This seems
extreme because I know it's getting discussed should they do it?
And so I looked up and I saw it, and
then I checked to see his thinking is that formerly
was illustrating in two four seven and the Blue checking
on it. So I was like, okay, because I knew
that was something people were talking about. Flounder's reaction was
my internal feelings? Well that's significant. Yeah, that was a blow.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I got to tell you.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
I was not feeling great about my quad one win
that was helping my team.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Out so much.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
I was like, all right, yeah, and then and then
we have wolf Pack James who's writing Yeah, I would
ask for my money back.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Dude, he had even played.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
A conference game. What's going on? Did he just Jamar Chase?
This entire thing? Is that something that is going to
be celebrated by you know, it's not Jamar Chase.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
He actually played, So that would be who was our
guy from Duke Jalen Johnson?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
That quitter, Well, that's true. Jamar Chase did shut it down.
He did not play the very last year that he
had eligibility, but he didn't play the whole season, and
that was COVID. No, it was NFL related. It was
NFL related when. But it was during COVID, wasn't it. Yeah,
I don't know. It's something we can look it up
either way. Jamar Chase sat out the last I just want.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
To I just want to Jalen Johnson under the bus
because you know he's a duke player and.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
He quit on a steam. So Jalen Johnson is an absolute.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Real quick I was like, yeah, he has really developed
into a monster. Like look up every time I feel
like I look up, he's got thirty forty.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
I was like, goodness great.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
So it shows you that if these guys could quit
in the middle of the season and they would still
be successful. It's not duke that's making these guys great.
That It's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
What's crazy is so both of the examples that we
just went to with Jamar Chase for it maybe different reasons,
but it was NFL related. Also for him, I mean,
he was saying he didn't want to get hurt because
we all knew as soon as he was done with
the championship game, just torching aj Terrell, who was a
first round corner and just absolutely leaving him in the dust.
He decided, I don't need to do anything else. Got
a championship. You know, maybe he could Devonte Smith this

(20:17):
and try to win a Heisman at that position, but
he didn't have to do anything else. And he's one
of the best receivers. And now here we have Jalen Johnson,
who is one of the best basketball players. Is going
to school? Overrated radio debate? Do you even really need
to go to school? Is it okay to quit on
your team? I think increasingly the answer to that is yes,

(20:38):
don't play team sports kids. That's the lesson you should
take away with the Weston. I don't even worry about it.
And if you do, it's okay to quit, cause you
might just be a multimillionaire.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yep, you just might end up being a great NBA
play and people are gonna wonder what happened, you know
when you were at said school.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Speaking of Scott Hughes, here's some other tweets just to
let you know that this is not a serious person.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
He tweeted out.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Kentucky has announced that Drake has been named an ambassador
to the men's basketball program. Per release, the Global Wrap
Icon will ahead the program search for a general manager
while also playing a major role in transfer portal recruiting.
And he's framing this as if all of these tweets
are real life. He also had this one. The Loyola
Chicago Ramblers men's basketball team has forfeited the remainder of

(21:22):
the season in an effort to avoid further desecrating the
memory of the late sister Jean Delores Schmidt. So just
to let you guys know, Scott Hughes not a serious person.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
Nc stayed about to play in eight minutes against Memphis
Bowl action going on, So Wolfpack fans, let us know.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Are you excited?

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Wolfpac James says, Hey, he's got to leave in twenty minutes.
We'll just leave us on in the background.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Please.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
I don't know where you're going, but just leave us on.
He's asking, is NC State going to be balling or fallin'?

Speaker 2 (21:48):
What you think? Well, this is tough, Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Smothers is going to be in a porter, So I
don't think he should play today.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Memphis a lot to prove. Man, oh boy, to give men.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
State to be falling the day, NC State five and
a half point favorite in the Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla ball.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
What you got over there? What you're oh boying about?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
I mean, look, man, I know that Hollywood smothers and
isn't in this game. Their backup running back Jaden Scott.
I want to say, yeah, he was actually toting the
ball pretty good at the end. I think I think
he'll be fine. The thing for Memphis to realize is
that they are there. I don't know how many guys
have entered the portal for them, but remember they're without
head coach Ryan Silverfield, who went to Arkansas. So I

(22:34):
would think the wolf Pack pretty pretty heavy here.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And I mean you look at it.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
Eight wins, even in a year that turned out to
be relatively disappointing at the start, still finds a way
to wins State.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
State to be balmer. Okay, we're changing it all around here.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
What's interesting about Memphis football season is that they took
care of their ball eligibility very quickly. They started off
six and oh, and then they lost quite a bit.
They actually lost four of their next six games. Uh
in fact, they had a big win against South Florida.
One of the wins that they had in that stretch
was against a good football team. They dropped three straight,
one to two Lane, one to ECU, one to Navy.

(23:15):
All of them were relatively close. NC State though they're
balling in this one. Give me the wolf Pack. Congratulations
wolf Pack, Jane. All three of us pick you to
win the Gasparilla Bowl. You ready for some sound? Let's
do it all right time? Now for some sound with
floun it's the live wire.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
In the west down.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Did you pick en CE State? I really wasn't listening.
I just realized, yes, I picked it. I figured that
you did. Okay.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
She said, you'd never pick en C State, never picked
them against Carol. Okay, yes, but I need to be
in order to stay on this radio station. I need
to be unbiased. Said, you know certain points. I can't
just every once in a while, maybe against like like
last year in the bowl game, I probably would have
picked ECU because they came in playing hot or football.
But I mean with with Memphis, I mean you lost

(24:07):
your head coach. Man, that's a tough thing to overcome.
So that's right.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Are you proud of me. I am proud of you.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Thank congratulations, Prender, you get your objective degree.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
What you gotta beout? All right, let's run through some
panther sound here.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Dave Canalis talking to the media on Wednesday, he was
asked about how the players feel and if they see
this as a big opportunity going into this week.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Every game is a championship opportunity. We don't see this
one as anything different.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
It is.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
It is obvious now for the division right in front
of us, this opportunity and how huge it is, you know.
And I can feel a sense that the players feel
that and see that and know that we can't let
that be a distraction. We can't make it more than
it is. It's about us executing. It's about us playing
clean football, you know, getting rid of some of the
things that showed up last week and making sure that

(24:55):
we play our best brand. And I can stand in
front of the group and say, when we play good
fur fotball, we can beat anybody. And that's a true
statement for this group. And I'm proud that we've worked
ourselves to that point. But we got to make it happen.
We got to bring it to Sunday.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
So coming off the loss.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
I mean, there's no way they're not going to have
the right mindset for this game, right.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
What do you think on that one?

Speaker 6 (25:15):
Was?

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, I think that they will.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
And as canal It said, I thought that that was
a key point, he said, when he can stand up
in front of the room and tell them that they
can beat anybody, Because yeah, I mean, as great as
that game was last night, Panthers did defeat the La
Rams as great as they looked, and they also defeated
the Green Bay Packers, so they do have examples to
show them that. And I do think that that's vital
coming up in a game like this because when you

(25:38):
do struggle against some of the bad teams, it can
hurt morale in a major way. But when you can
harken back on experiences where you say, well, yeah, we
did lose to that team, but we also beat that team,
So that shows you what you're capable of and can
sharpen your focus and get you locked in for a
matchup against the big time matchups going into it.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
All right, allow me to play the defense or make
the case for the defense of the Panthers losing some
of those Okay, so you lose to the Bills with
Andy Dalton as you're starting quarterback, and if your backup
quarterback being your starter, was it enough to overcome He also,
I guess, had a thumb injury immediately upon this game

(26:18):
being played. Happened in the first quarter. Okay, you'd like
to stop him from scoring forty points, but fair enough,
Andy Dalton not going to help you out there. You
chalk that one up as an outlier. The first Saints game,
Jac Horn fell down a couple times. That's what it is.
Excuses for JC Horn. I'm going to defend him. Forty
nine Ers game. Look, man, Rock Party gave you a

(26:40):
bunch of chances. Bryce Young down to the goal line,
throws a bad interception, all right, so that's a gift
for Sam Fran And then the officials didn't call team
at getting held on the other interception from Bryce. It
wasn't Bryce's fault, So that's another one. I'm going to
defend him there as well. So just a couple of
outlier things happening to Carolina when they're trying to get
ready for the big time opponents. Officials not giving you

(27:01):
the benefit of the doubt, so holding calls, not getting
called some weird turnovers. They weren't taking care of the ball.
They weren't live, laughing and loving Wes.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You know. That's what I'm saying here.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
So it's not even just so much about the mindset, man,
it's all of these weird, little outlier things that have
kept Carolina from winning some of those games. I think
they'll be ready, and as long as they take care
of the football, I think they're going to be all right.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Stay ready. You ain't got to get ready.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know, sugar free and needs to be all over
the place as well. Yes, what you got foun All.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right, let's move on to Dave Canalis.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
I believe this is talking on Panther talk, but I
could be wrong on that one. He was asked about
the crowd and he says, crowd needs to show up
and be loud for this game on Sunday.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Show up, be loud. Love the energy that we had
at the Rams game. You know, it was cold and rainy.
We're expecting some beautiful weather. It's going to be in
the sixties. We're gonna come out and bring our best
and just a great division matchup exactly how we want it.
The environment's going to be beautiful and we need you,
We need all the fans to come out.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
We need that impact. I know it was an impact
on that third day against the Rams.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
We've got to sack fumble right there to steal the game,
and there was an advantage there because of the noise,
and we got to jump on the rush and a
nice stunt inside and all that stuff matters. And even
when we just make great plays, the celebrations and when
the officials make a questionable call, let them have it,
have it because I'm typically not yelling at the guy.
So I need I need all the Panthers fans.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
I haven't seen very many of those this year. I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
All right, all right, well, what do you expect from
the environment in this game and do you think it
could be a factor that allows the Panthers to win.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, whenever you get a great fan turnout and they
perform up to snuff, it's certainly going to be able
to help the home team. So for Panther fans, yeah,
this is their chance. And I mean Tampa Bay, They're
going to have their chef fans in the building. But
it's not like when they play against some of the
big brands of the league that bring a ton of
fans in there. So I would expect the Panther fans
to show up. They know it's at stake, because if

(28:53):
you don't, I think that that really looks bad on
your fan base. If you're not able to show up
and support your team with the NFC West Championship on
the line, that's the whole NFC South.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
It's all about the forty nine ers, it's all I'll
san Frian in West's world, We're just little Carolina.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Why don't you go Donald Trump?

Speaker 6 (29:12):
There?

Speaker 2 (29:12):
That was interesting was that Donald Trump? You think it's
all about the West. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
This guy he's worried about I should be worried about
the East coast the South.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I'll leave that up to you.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
In Fitty does that quite a bit in the Mac
and Bone Show, I have not. I didn't realize I
was going Trump, but I will say that Carolina fans
are going to show up for this one, just like
they did against the Rams. Like Dave Canal has just
brought up, and it was crazy loud, and I know
Kyle talked about it, Mac and Boone, we're talking about it, man.
The loudest that it's ever been at Bank of America Stadium.

(29:44):
I go back to the Graham Gano field goal against
the Giants. There are a couple of other games sprinkled
here and there, but that Graham Gano field goal was huge,
that one. That's still the loudest moment that I can
remember being in the stadium.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I wasn't there for the Luke keith Lee return for
a touchdown against the Seahawks in the playoffs, but I
was at draft right outside of Boa, and my head
was ringing. It was crazy loud when Luke Keigley returned it.
So this Rams win, it just constantly, right, consistently, very loud.
They're going to show up and you said, you know
there's going to be a fair share of Buccaneers fans.

(30:18):
Oh no, I don't see a lot of Buccaneers jerseys
around here. I don't see a lot. So if the Rams,
who kind of notoriously don't have a huge fan base,
especially at this part of the country, not a lot
of Bucks fans either. This isn't the Steelers or the
Cowboys or the Bills. We're not going to have that
much of a fan base infiltrating Boa. Yeah, I think

(30:38):
all of the signs are right, especially with the weather
being so nice, and what's the excuse not to get out?
What's the excuse? So I think the fan base will
show up what you got over there?

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Flat All right, Let's go to offensive coordinator Brad Izick
because he was asked yesterday about t Max slump and
how can you possibly get him going again?

Speaker 7 (30:55):
We just got to continue to put him in the
best spots to execute. And then when those those moments
come up, when you know the look is right, we
you know, we gotta we got to cash in. So
there's a couple of those ops that were just near misses.
But at the same time, as coaches, you know, we
put an onus on, Okay, what are the best looks.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
To get this guy involved? To get our best players, whether.

Speaker 7 (31:14):
It's Team mac are running backs, you know, really Jalen,
all those guys, all of our our playmakers on the offense,
like what are the best chances to get them the
ball early, to get them in a rhythm, and then
as the game progresses, continuing to find those opportunities. We
got to continue to do that as a coaching staff,
and then that dialogue's got to happen during the game
as things start to change a little bit.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
All right, So what do you guys want to see
from this coaching staff to get their lead wide receiver
going again? Is there something specific or is it just
about him playing better football?

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well? I think it's the you know thing that a
lot of teams do and they have a top receiver.
I mean, get them the ball early, let them touch
the rock early. We know that for a lot of receivers,
that gets them in a rhythm, that gets the juices flowing.
They want to block a little bit harder, They want
to go a little bit hard on their routes. Not
that they're not great professionals and want to do it anyway,
But when they're able to test the piel a couple

(32:05):
of times early in jobs, it does get them going.
So I think for the Panthers the plan should be simple.
Your first few passing plays, try to make sure you
work to a Roy McMillan into those, whether it's a
big play or a smaller play. But just let him
get a little bit of love on that football.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
You know. I do like that.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Dave Canalis continues to move him around a little bit.
He is running out of the slot, which is a
nice way to free up your guys. They're just still
not targeting him nearly as much because there's not as
many passing attempts as we would like. Just overall, when
the volume is down, there's not as many passes, which
means there's not as many targets, which means there's not
as many catches, which means there's not as many yards.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Here's what I would like to see.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
I don't know why they just completely abandoned going to
t Mac all the way down the field on some
mono and mono situations. It feels like when they throw
the t Mac downfield now they're scheming him open and
or it's off of like the secondary action, which he's
very good at helping his quarterback out. I thought that
was one of the big reasons why they drove to him,
is because he was better than any receiver out of
the draft and coming back to the football to help

(33:04):
out his QB. Bryce Shung has taken advantage of that.
But I kind of do want to see what we
saw in the preseason where the welcome to Carolina moment
for t Mac preseason against Cleveland, it was down the
sideline take a few what was it, three to five
step drop, whatever it was, Let it hum over there
to the right sideline, and t mac made a great
catch for you. Even if t mac didn't come down

(33:27):
with a couple of those opportunities at the beginning of
the year, they still tried it. Why are we abandoning this?
Why is it only XL? Why is it Jalen Cocher
seemingly now a couple of times you can scheme him open,
and that's great. I clearly it's fantastic. Scheme him open.
Take some shots, man, see if T Mack's got the
goods me against Jamel Dean, Benjamin Morrison, whoever's going to

(33:49):
be on him. Let's see if he can come up
with some of those contested catches downfield. It doesn't mean
that he's never going to be able to benefit from
it. It doesn't mean he'll never be good at it. We
saw him successfully do this very thing at Arizona. I
just don't feel like we see those shots to Team
AC anymore like you have with Excel, like you have
with Coker. Try that a couple of times, and if
t MAC comes up with a big play, you talk

(34:10):
about getting him the ball early to create some momentum.
Guess guess what else will create some momentum? Big time
catch with Boa roaring because of what he was able
to do against whoever it is that's covering them. I
just don't feel like they've tried that nearly as much
as they did the first three weeks four weeks of
the season. Would love to see him try that. What
else you got over there?

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Flat?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
All right, let's go to Aziro Everro, the defensive coordinator,
because he was talking about Dave Canalis calling the secondary
disjointed late in the New Orleans game.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
That's a strong statement.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
I would say that, Like, you know, there's serving some
areas that we could have been more connected in the
second half. But yeah, you know, we we were playing
a really really good game up to those last two series.
Some of those things I can certainly do a better
job at in terms of coaching, and in some of
these areas we know we can execute better as players

(35:02):
and so, but you know, it's one of those things
you could be off just a little bit here or there,
and it can make a big difference, especially in those
critical moments.

Speaker 4 (35:11):
All right, So when it comes to the secondary, do
you trust this group going against the talented wide receiving
core of the Tampa Bay Bucketing.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
No, because the statistics tell me that you should not
trust them, and I mean going up against a group
like that. Now, the thing about it is this secondary
can get beat, but they can also, you know, have
moments where they make big plays sometimes to make up
for it, like Mike Jackson getting interceptions on one. J. C.
Horn as able to nap interceptions. But again I pointed
out earlier in the show, they're twenty fourth and opponents

(35:41):
yards per completions. There's seventeenth and opponent passing first downs
per game. Now, the one area that you do trust
them a little bit is they are eighth and opponent
passing touchdowns per game.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
So there's that.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
But as far as just giving up the yard into
some of those big plays in the passing attack, the
numbers tell me that I trust them and I don't.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
So I think with Mike Evans, you're just gonna have
to chalk that up to Mike Evans being trusted more
than whoever's covering them. So Mike Evans, no, I don't
trust him. Abuka is interesting to me, the way that
he was getting big plays at the beginning of the
year was with Baker throwing fireballs with insane accuracy. It
wasn't because Amuka was just Abuka was just destroying dudes

(36:24):
off of the line of scrimmage. If you go back
and you look at some of those catches downfield, he
did what he had to do. It's no hate, it's
just Baker. There was a reason he was playing at
an MVP level back when Abuka was going for one
hundred yards and then grabbing all of the touchdown catches.
It hasn't happened nearly as much, and they are throwing
him more screens. So when you see the production for Abuca,
now now you're seeing him yards after the catch, which

(36:44):
he's good at. You mentioned that stat he has been
very good at that. I just wonder if you can
have JC Horton, Mike Jackson stick with a Buka downfield
at a pretty nice rate where then you can just
see the contested catch rate for Abuka goes down because
they're covering him quite well. Mike Evans, Yeah, man, I'm
not what you're gonna do with mikeel That's that's the

(37:04):
thing for me. Do you want me to go to
you or not what you mean. Well, you're smiling. It's
fifty fifty whether I go to you or not. Well,
I was gonna say, I mean even if J. C.
Horn contests, he'll probably fall. Yeah, it's so it's like
that for JC. Now we're starting to get into some
bad territory. I just like to having fun with you guys. Yeah, no,
it's not so many places west. Every time he hears J. C.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Horn, it's this guy sucks.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I mean, that's what I'm m and one leg down
now on the D line. You know what I think
actually has happened here. You know what I think has happened.
I think when Smoke tweeted at Wes, that's when we
saw him turn into the hardcore JC filming, when Smoke
went to social media. I'm blaming Smoke Ludwick for this

(37:47):
because it's not like Wes has been a huge fan
of JC Horn throughout his entire career, right. I think
a lot of this is very rooted in Panthers fans
feeling good about a first round pick, and Wes is
here to destroy you for feeling that way. But when
Smoke tweets at him after JC comes up with a
couple of plays.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Now it's in the public eye. I mean, I think
when we look.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
At some of my verses on the shows, you have
your share of versus, and you know mine has always
been jac Horn.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
He's been my Lebron James.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Since I've been on this show, that's been the you know,
the number one adversarial.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Athlete for me that the fans just don't agree with me.
It was dormant for a while though. Yeah, first year,
the same game woke it up. First year it was,
you know, all against j C.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Horn.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
But we can't say that because I did give the
preface of saying that I thought he was a good player.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
No.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But see, this is what you do with all of
this stuff, because you try to say, no, what I'm
saying is this like you No, I know exactly to
a t what you're saying. I disagree with it, that's
the thing. And now you can't even say that you
think he's a good player, because I don't think you think.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
That man with the sixty he's not sixty fourth. Right.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
So when Smoke went to the public eye with this,
to me, this is my theory, that's when we ramped
it up again. That's when the volume got turned out
because even when the Jets, he had a great p
f F grade.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Yeah, that was no, that was time.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
I just said that, you know, eighty corner worth this
assault should have made those plays.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
That's that's all I'm saying. Any quarterback could make those plays.
That's all I'm saying. See, that's I think it was smoke.
I need to look back. I'll do some more sleuth work.
We'll come back. We have one more segment to go.
It's the walk off, and I'll give you some j. C.
Horn info and we'll tell you what's on tap. Sports
Radio ninety two seven w f n Z.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Any challenge for me to walk off? Oh yeah, that's
a walk off challenge, my friend, it's a walk off.
It's a walk off.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
There's a couple of things going on during the break.
There's a couple of things I wanted to lead off with.
Like one, I did do enough Sherlock Holmes to find
out exactly when we took a turn for the worst
again with Wes's hatred towards Jacy Horn. We also started
talking about soup season and how much we like soup
around here. Yes, we also got to flounder working at

(40:15):
Chick fil A, which we've talked about before, but I
don't know if we've explored it to my liking.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
That's how I met Nascar Brad at Chick fil A
High he worked there.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, he was the kitchen manager.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
You know, your time at Dairy Queen is well documented,
hilarious stuff. I would watch a show with Fiddy and
Flounder working at.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Dary Oh it was. It was legendary.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, yeah, police were involved once or twice, like I would.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Watch it only once.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Only once, yes, and that's I was threatened to be
killed by multiple boyfriends of employees.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I want the show so bad in my life. I would.
I would if it was up to you.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
I would pay for a subscription if it was on
HBO or something like that, and I would pay for
it up to Fiddy and Flounder.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
I just want to do like the Office, where we
have the sit downs where we sweep. We just describe
to the camera people what happened.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Oh yeah, breaking the fourth wall. I need you guys,
breaking the fourth wall.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
People brandishing weapons at Flounder and the drive through line has.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Lots of fights in food places.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
I've been seeing online recent I saw I wanted Chipotle
yesterday and.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Hopefully that didn't happen at my tropol.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
I just love at Dairy Queen too, man, a place
that's supposed to bring happy thoughts because you're going to
get ice cream, right, You're going to get a shake
or a cone.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
And you know what's funny, This is why I wanted
to bring it back to Chick fil A, because you
know that there's a lot of angst with these people, Yeah,
Fiddy and Flounder, a lot of scowling, a lot of arguing,
a lot of cursing. Yeah, except except Flounder. Okay, the
dude that if he has an issue with your text message,

(41:48):
we'll call you a dumb ass. That's happening at Chick
fil A. Or they are supposed to bless you every
time you drive off of the lot.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Ultimately the pinnacle of customers. See, you don't understand the kitchen.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Help me understand when when you have that wall between you.
The kitchen is a very very vulgar place I've heard,
especially at Chick fil A, because people, I mean, you
got to think that the drive through line is NonStop,
so you are just I mean, you are just.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
In goes pretty quick there, Huh. Oh, it flies by.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
But then when you realize all the stuff that you
have to clean, and you say, hey, this place closes
at ten am, what's or ten am? Ten pm? What
time do you think I'm getting out of here? Probably
twelve thirty one. I'm like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
You have to do it with a good attitude. Because
they pride themselves on At McDonald's you can go ahead
and curse some people out and still have your job.
You can't do that at Chick fil A, not in public,
and if they get Now, the thing is, did managers
know what was going on wowing the wall?

Speaker 7 (42:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Okay, so you were allowed to act a full as
long as no customer saw you once.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Once you walked up front, it was my pleasure when
you walk through that door from the back, that swinging door.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
You better clean yourself up.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Was that harder than actually working all the hours that
you did? No, Because I didn't go out front that often.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
I was just a dishwasher, even though you know, when
I first took the job, I was promised to be
more than just a dishwasher. So I was part of
the hangs to that I had. Yeah, yep, not great,
not great.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Well, perhaps they knew that you weren't gonna be able
to say my pleasure, but so many times a day
there was my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Lit.

Speaker 4 (43:30):
No, I wasn't supposed to work up front, I was
still supposed to be in the kitchen, but uh, I
was sold. I was sold a bill of goods, you know,
and switch. Yeah, the grass isn't always greener on the
other side for folks.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I really bet I want to see Flounder serving at
Chick fil A and having to have a smile the
entire time, because it would just go so against what
I expect him.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
But see, I don't I don't have to Uh, I
don't have to cook the food for you.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
But see, I feel like Chick fil A, the way
did they give it up? If he just if there
was a manager that just heard flounder story, I feel
like that they would contact Flounder, tell him that they
are sorry for how he was cheated during his employment,
and then offer him an opportunity to come back, along
with the college degree program, because they said that is

(44:22):
not how Chick fil A does business.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
So somebody says, what dishes does Chick fil A have?
I'm gonna tell you just ask the people. If you
ever see an employee that comes out of the back
at Chick fil a, you ask them how many dishes
do you have?

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah? They will.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
They're gonna, they're gonna break. They're gonna break. If I said,
you guys don't have any dishes to wash? Yeah, when
they break, yeah, just they they lose all of it.
They lose my head, dis break back in all their
wherewithal Okay, Rachel did ask an important question before we
move on quickly.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
You had a gun pulled on you, dairy queen. No, no, no, no, okay,
Oh I thought you said the one dude. I thought
you said there with the Briton to pull a gun
on mex Okay, okay, yeah, all right, No, we're not
too far away. Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't get now.

Speaker 4 (45:14):
I I have been threatened while driving before with a bat,
So that's that's a different story.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Okay, I'm gonna do. Hold it up in the window,
hold it out the window.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
We don't have enough time for this fun Why are
you gonna tell me interesting stuff when we have thirty
seconds left of air time? I need all right, I
need more the experiences you're in the walk off.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
I know, Yeah, you're right. No, I'm saying this. Yes,
good showman leaves the crowd wanting more. I want more.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I'm going to tune into the Western Walker Show, not
to listen to wesn Walker to hear Flounder tell stories
about Chick fil A? All Right, What's on Tap? Presented
by Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks has locations in Concord and
Fourth Mill. Twin Peaks. He's a local sports lodge. Come
in from it from Scratch food and signature twenty nine
degree draft beer. Panthers Bucks NFC South title on the line.

(46:04):
For the most part, Panthers lose this game, percentage goes
down to five percent. If they win, they expand their lifespan.
What you got over there? Who's winning the game?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
West?

Speaker 3 (46:14):
My Queen City magic theory tells me that the Panthers
should lose this game, but also the fact that this
is the game that I've heard national pundit saying that
they don't expect them to win out this is the
show this morning, and they picked the Bucks and said
virtually the Panthers don't have much of a shot. So
in that vein, I'm gonna go with the Panthers at home.
I think that they'll be making other worldly plays and

(46:36):
balling out and this is a big game that they
they get the.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Job done about j C. Horn other worldly plays from him.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Other world and he'll be falling like he's been taking
over by an alien.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
So he's falling, not balling his But yeah, all right,
what you got over there? Panthers by ten, big time victory.
That's right, Buccaneers. Really it's a convincing win.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
The Buccaneers offense looks like smashed rear end at time.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
So okay, I've never heard it described like that. Yeah,
you're kind of on one, and I like it. Give
me the Panthers to.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Win by three. Give me a field gold victory across.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
The bullet because what we do, Yeah, we across the
boy last night, we did and we all lost.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Somebody's got to save the graphic. Do I need to
do it? Or do I just do? We just stand
tall and go with them authentic. Yeah, you're right, they
know you can't. You can't fake it. You can't fake
it like Flounder did it. Chick there, they'll believe it.
I did it, but not y'all. Yeah, Well I don't
know if they believe it, but they'll just go along
with it because you have to fake the conviction for
the Panthers. Yeah, one hundred percent. That'll do it for

(47:43):
story time with flound Dog at Chick fil A and
Dairy Queen. We'll be back with you on Monday to
recap everything. Panthers Buccaneers, we'll see if they can get
it done. Folks, come on, Pee Cats, come on, let's
go ahead and get this victory so we can get
a chance at that NFC South title. Kyle Bailey smoke Lud,
but coming up next. Sports a ninety two seven WFNZ.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
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