September 11, 2025 • 44 mins
After a lackluster performance on Sunday, did Yosh Nijman just secure a bigger bag for Ickey? The Live Wire follows with a big focus on the recent remarks by NBA commissioner, Adam Silver. We end the show as always with the Walk-Off.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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people writing in on the fan text line seven oh
four five seven oh ninety six. Ten West wrote this
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one in not your account but a different West. He said,
ron Our Test aka Metal World Peace would make Draymond
Green be quiet real quick and there's a clip that
you showed me of that happening.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
People said that there were some honorable mentions because the
list that you saw wasn't even my original list. I
went back and revised it because I was like, all right, well,
I wanted to make it a little bit more current.
But I had like John McEnroe on there, I had
Tanya Harding on there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, yeah, I had some bangers. There was a lot
to tools from.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yet, so like badass and mean is something different, And
if we were just sticking to the strict definition of mean,
I don't That's why I don't think you put Metal
World Peace up there. You know what I'm saying, Like
Medle World Peace is just respected. Yeah, he is a
bad bad man that I'm like, I respect Metal World Peace.
Draymond Green is mean, Like yeah, straight, he wasn't. Yeah,
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ron On Tests was a fina.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He was I'm not necessarily gonna start it all the time,
but I'll finish it if you need me to.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And he was not. He wasn't just mean. He didn't
do stuff to agitate people.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well he did a little bit, No, he did, right,
not as bad as Draymond. But he was an agitated
I'm sorry, let me walk that one back. He was
a little bit of an answer. No, no, But I
think you and I feel very similarly about this. Bill
Lambier mean yes, mean cuss Isaiah Thomas mean yeah, and
he's the worst kind of me. Yeah, because Isaiah Thomas
would do something and then he'd run behind Rick Mahorn
and Bill Lampiert. Like Isaiah Thomas one of the most
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and oddly forgotten about best of our time.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Also, I really don't like him. Yeah, you know, I
just really don't. Would we put Larry Bird in mean yeah,
he was kind.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Of mean because he talked so much trash and he
would hard value and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
He was scrapped. You wouldn't call him nice.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I would agree. I think Larry Bird could have
been in here. But we put Michael Jordan in percent
no doubt. Mean Michael Jordan wasn't nice. Yeah, what you
got shopped?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I was going to add one from the high world.
Ron Heckstall, the old goalie for the Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I can read you a few things here.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Uh suspended in the Stanley Cup finals for a slash
that was egregious also twice in his career more than
one hundred penalty minutes in the season, which is for
a goalie that just doesn't happen. It makes sense that
that was was And he also scored a goal too,
He's I think he was the first goalie to actually
score a goal.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What did he do it a empty net? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Okay, I was gonna ask you too, because I saw
way and Gretzky came up when I googled it, like
the AI gave me that too.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was he considered mean that he was actually a good
trash talker?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, but he wasn't when I'm thinking about me, and
like Ron Heckstall would fight people.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, guys that would do stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, who are What about the Brad Marshan
and the Marsians?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
No Marsians. He his description is what he is. He's
just a rat. He's just out there to annoy you.
I don't know if i'd say he's the meanest. He's
just really good at getting under your skin. But I
wouldn't say he's like out there like dirty. I guess
he kind of is.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't want this to turn into let's ask Shoppy
about hockey players radio. But I do have one other question.
Who was the big tall goon I think for the
Penguins that was always very feared.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Maybe I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's exactly Ruins, Thank you, Black and Yellow is what
I was thinking of. But yes, one hundred percent it
was Chara. Does he fit the description of one of
the meaner guys or was he just being Nobody want.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
To me because it was It was always hilarious. Try
to watch guys like fight Chara because they're swinging just
almost up, just straight up.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So he was. He was to where West was saying
about that last guy.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
He didn't really instigate things, but he would It would
definitely end him.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Uh, Metal World Peace. Do you think he's the most respected. Oh,
we need to not mess with that guy? NBA player
of the last I don't know since two thousands.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And those are gods of retaliation and like fighting too,
because Michael, of course there's.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Plenty to say.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean or Kobe something on the Yeah, it's
different from this guys that people didn't want to mess with.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, because Zoe was like that, but then he got
into a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Of fights like people, Yeah he did, people says gangster,
but run on tests, I probably would say is the
one guy that people did not really challenge him in that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's a great way to measure it. You just said
it right there. Who tests your gangster?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah? And if they don't, that means your gangster yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Because you know those NBA guys, even though they don't
necessarily always swing punches, but they will. You know, if
you're supposed to be a tough guy, they're gonna especially
in the nineties in early two thousands, they were gonna
find out about you. Now you gave him into the game,
they were gonna test you. And another great basketball player
to put on that list would have been Keny Martin.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Keny Martin was mean for sure. Oakley is another name
that I think of Oakley with somebody didn't really want.
He was an enforcer that didn't get tryed. It might
be on the NBA of Mount Rushmore. He really might
be game players. You've heard me tell this story a
million times. If you're new to the show, then here's
your first time hearing it, because I gotta tell you.
But uh, my favorite bar maybe of all time in
terms of passionate statements from athletes is Metal World Peace.
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In that documentary Malice at the Palace or the untold
series on Netflix. When he's talking about Malice at the Palace,
he says, it was just my mindset, and then he
goes into this blank stare and goes into this dark
space where he says, I don't care. I'll die right here.
I'll die right here. For some reason hit home for
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me the way he was looking at the camera. I
felt scared, like, you really will. I believe you. I
don't think you care if you die right there. Because
of his upbringing, because of his mental illness that he's
admittedly said that he's working on to this day. What
like I wanted three part documentary on Metal World Peace.
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I would watch that with popcorn in hand.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
There was one that came out about him that was
on Showtime, maybe four fives going off watching one. Yes,
it was good. I'll put you on during the break
I did. I watched it and it was really really good.
Well and for the local angle. Steve Smith, Yes, me,
Steve Smith was. Steve Smith was mean, He was kind
of a finisher. Two liked.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
He would almost start stuff and maybe Smitty would say
something different about it. He would almost start stuff to
get himself going almost like a self amplifier, and then
if somebody else did something to him, it felt like
he would be ready for the smell.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is that a good way to describe it?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Like his spinning of the football, his chest pounding, his
talking was almost really to get himself going. But if
somebody came to him, now he's ready to go. Yeah,
no doubt about it. That's how I would describe Steve Smith,
but maybe he would describe it differently. Who knows. Good
inclusion there though as well? Seven oh four five, seven
ninety six ten. I like this art. Vandala said eighty
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nine played like he had rabies. I love that description
of Smitty just foaming at the mouth to play some football.
I hope these guys are. It sounds like they are
with what Dave Canalis was discussing. The mood was like
after that game against Jacksonville, where every one of these
players was responding Wes. We talked about it in the
first segment. This is where your culture fixes some of
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the things that go wrong, and you're always gonna have
to get over a bad game. Every team has a
bad game. You might win it, but up to your standards,
every team has a bad game. And Carolina had a
really bad one. Outright embarrassing is what we called it.
That's what they did against Jacksonville week one. How do
you feel getting some of your thoughts because you won't
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be with us tomorrow, You're going to be out down
in Miami traveling to Miami for the USF Miami game.
What are the keys of the game for Carolina to
respond the way that they should?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Man, I think that for one, the number one thing
is Carolina's going to have to find another threat in
the passing game besides Tetro and McMillan, because I think Arizona,
certainly number one on the list, is going to take
him completely out. I think the keys for them offensively
to half success. I think it is, like I said,
finding a second threat, and then also to be able
to get the run game better because you have to
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have more production than what you had there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think you want to see Tuba eighty yards are better.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You want to see him get on the board with
the rushing score as well. So and I'd like to
see a little bit more Rico Duto a little one
two punch there. But like I said, objective number one
is for them to be able to find another threat,
get Tuba going, and then defensively, man, I mean it
sounds very simple, cliche or however you want to put it,
but this Arizona Cardinals team, we said it was the
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second worst run blocking team in the NFL last week.
You have to be able to exploit that to a degree.
If you're the Carolina Panthers, and maybe you don't have
the horses to be able to just shut them down,
but you know, two fifty. I feel like at this point,
if you can stay in the one twenty five to
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one forty range, I think that that would be a
big improvement for you.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And so I think that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
They got to keep Arizona between one hundred and twenty.
At one hundred and fifty yards rushing, even though that's
not great, but it's still better than what you've been
given up.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So the Saints had one hundred and seven yards rushing
on just twenty two carries against the Cardinals in this
first game.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Not the average Kamara it was.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Kamara only had eleven carries but had forty five yards,
did have one touchdown Kendra Miller the backup down in
New Orleans twenty four yards on five carries. Spencer Rattler
got rushing a little bit, which we know Bryce Young
can do. Perhaps that's something we should discuss. Maybe Bryce
Young uses his legs and he did so a little
bit in Jacksonville. Just don't fumble the football. Other than that,
please start to take off a little more. But Spencer
(10:35):
Ratler had twenty nine yards rushing. If you look at
the grades that Cardinals defense had, they were not good
against the run, and they actually weren't good getting out
for the passer.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
They were excellent in coverage.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That makes sense if Will Johnson is going to play
like pre injured Will Johnson and Buddha Baker is going
to be who he is. So I think you're dead
on It's probably something that will repeat over and over again,
but I think it matters a ton in Week two
on the football effectively. If you can run the football effectively,
it opens up everything else you talked about, allowing more
opportunities for a second pass catcher outside of TMAC. It
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allows you to have safeties cheating down in the box
and making sure that Tuba doesn't break a big runoff.
Same thing with Rico Daddle. If he starts to get going,
maybe some play action too, Rico Daddle to getting him
involved in the passing game and not dropping footballs like
he did. Even though it was a lot of heat
on that football. Still it was a drop that caused
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Bryce Shonging to have an interception that shouldn't have been
ruled one. Yeah, it's running the football.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Man. I would love to see Cuba.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Not only get twenty carries, but overall, Man, I want
thirty carries in this game.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I want.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I want Cuba and Rico and Bryce if you want
to throw him some, if you give me thirty plus,
I'll be a happy man.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think that. Also.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You know, it's a great point that you bring to
the tables well when you talk about the backs, because
can you use the run game to be yele to
get you some cheapies? Because I think one thing to
look for early is how disrespectful are the Cardinals going
to be?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
How many guys are playing in a box like you said,
are they just playing one high? Are they coming down
with some zero looks early in the game, Guys just
walking into the box like we don't give a darn
about your receivers or your passing game.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We stopping this run game.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
We're putting you in third long and then we're gonna
see what you can do because we only feel like
you have wat one receiver. So I think that's the
thing for fans that look at too man to go
inside of things just a little bit. Look at how
far the safeties are walked down into the box from
the onset of this game, and that will tell you
how much they respect or don't respect this Panther's offense.
Because if they're sitting down there, you know, eight nine
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guys sitting in there and just saying, okay, bright shing,
you're gonna have to beat us today. And I think
that's going to tell you everything you need to know
about what they do.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Plus, it's a nice way to ease a key back
into the swing of things having played his first NFL game.
As long as he does suit up against Arizona. We
all know that run blocking is specialty compared to pass blocking.
So if you let him eat at what he does best,
and the guards are better run blockers than they have
been pass protectors. At Austin Corbett, as bad as he
was in pass protection, I don't think he was terrible
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in run blocking. You just got to figure out how
to not snap it high every fifth time and make
sure that you don't provide interior pressure. But if you
can do that and then you can give me the
same run blocking, I'll take it from Austin Corbett. So
it feels like that's the game plan that should be implemented,
which of course means the defense can't.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Allow the Cardinals to get off to a big lead early.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If the Cardinals get a lead early and the Panthers
can't run the football, that's a great recipe for doom.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And one thing I'll say too that's worth bearing out
in this game is that the Cardinals only had a
blitz percentage last week of eighteen point four percent, And
so that's going to be another thing. Do they feel
like as we see, sorry, as we see Sports Center
in Winston Salem right now getting ready for the big game,
But do the Cardinals decide to blitz more because they
feel like that there are something there as well? So
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they didn't blitz very much last week against the New
Orleans Saints, which is arguably the worst team in football
depending on how you perceive them. So do they treat
the Panthers the same or do they up that percentage
by ten to fifteen percent?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And the thing is I make him have to blitz.
That would be great. Yeah, And I think you can.
I think the offensive line can be good enough. So
if you're talking Yosh Niman against Josh heinz Allen and
some a nice duo of edge rushers against Jacksonville, you
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have Josh Sweat coming off the edge in this John
Gannon defense, who I think is just a good edge rusher.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think he's good. So is that going to be?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
This just is another reason as to why I want
to run the football, like, let Ikey get in the
swing of things before we really start to deploy him
in a bunch.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Of pass protection.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And by the way, Bagel Guy says, thirty carries, Walker's
trying to play nineteen thirties football. You're not entirely wrong,
but thirty carries isn't a crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And also to what those thirty carries mean, because if
two big gets to the thirty carry mark, that means
for one year in the football game and or you're
playing with the lead in the fourth quarter, if he
does get that many carries, because if you're down or
constantly chasing the lead, especially the later it gets. You're
not getting to the thirty carry mark as a running back, right,
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which means, yeah, don't get down big. Make sure the
running game is still a meaningful part of your offense.
And so if you give me, you know, over twenty
for Cuba, if you give me seven to eight for Rico,
now you're pretty much already there, not counting what Bryce
Young might do on some scrambles or some not designed runs. Yeah,
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like that's that gives you over thirty. The Cardinals had
twenty seven rushes last week. They were only three off
of it. It's certainly attainable. Okay, live wire coming up next.
I don't know who's going to be behind the board
for the live wire, but it's gonna be fun either way.
Sports RADI ninety two to seven WFNZQUS and Walker Sports
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Radio ninety two seven WFNZ. Only a couple more segments
to go and then we is gone, going down to
South Beach. He's taking his talents. You're excited for the
Miami trip? Yeah, man, no doubt. I mean this game,
it should be a good one. Back the into it.
Nobody would have thought at the beginning of the season
that South Florida. Miami would be a ranked matchup, especially
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with South Florida the way on which it has happened
with them beating two ranked teams. So if they win
this game, they would join Miami as the only team
to begin a season beating three ranked opponents.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, I mean, yeah, like, how much respect should we
give to us after you.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Got to I mean, you go into the swamp and
beat the Florida Gators and then you beat the breaks
off Boise State. Now, like I said, there's a lot
of chapters to be told in both of those team seasons.
Do both of them in the season being looked at
as really good wins for USF. But regardless of the fact,
nobody expected USF to win either of those games. And
so them coming to Miami had some extra sauce on
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it because you know, those boys at one point a
lot of them wanted to play for Miami. You know
there's a rivalry element there, and you know that especially
you know Miami being a private school too. So you
throw all that in the pot, those fans are going
to show up because I would bet you money that
a lot of Miami fans kind of sold their tickets
for this game when the season, when they got their
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tickets this year, or that the attendance wasn't where it
needed to be and a lot of those South Florida
fans are gobbling up those tickets. So it's going to
be a Rockets atmosphere, man. So I can't wait, just
like Baylor and SMU was.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, I mean, if we set up camp here for
just a moment, you talk about USF beating twenty fifth
rank Boise State thirty four to seven Florida in the
swap eighteen to sixteen. Now you have a road game
against Miami in this game, and with USF, is that
you can't hold them out of a high seed of
a college football playoff ranking, depending on what Florida and
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Boise State does the rest of the way. But there's
no they played a cupcake schedule. I mean maybe after
the first few games of the season, but before that
it was crazy hard. And you have some good teams left.
So you still have Memphis on the road, Texas San Antonio,
like Texas and Antonio was thought of to be a
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high program, and what they're going to accomplish within the
American Conference this year, it's gonna be tough. To not
that they would leave them out if they only are
if they won every game but one. But even still,
man like, I wonder how high you would rank them
given what their logo is, what conference they play in.
But there's not too many mid majors quote unquote that
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would run through Boise State, Florida. Maybe Miami. I don't
think it happens, but maybe. And you got to respect
them just as much as you would respect any prime
time pro, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And if you're South Florida, you cannot drop the ball
past this point because even if you lose this thing,
let's just say that they lose by the spread at
eighteen and a half, Okay, nobody's going to look at
that and ridicule them Florida, especially if they run rough
shot over their conference's schedule win a conference championship. I
think you're definitely looking at them as being a group
of five team that gets into the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It's definitely crazy to watch what they've done so far.
And the other thing, I'll say, even if they lose Miami,
as you mentioned, they can still be that playoff team.
It's just they'll have one loss to Charlotte when they
do have the forty nine ers go on the road.
But other than that, I think it'll probably be pretty good.
For what the bullzel Shoppy's laughing at me. That's disrespectful, dude,
I got that, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Don't laugh about Niners man.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
That game's on ESPN two by the way, that will
be on Friday, October third. All right, you ready to
play some sound, Let's do it, Shoppy, you know the deal.
Time now for the live wire with shop.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
In the West and the West up north live wise guy.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well, for good reason, it's been pretty much all football today.
But there's audio clip I want to play for Adam Silver.
I think this has to be addressed. This has to
be addressed. So I'll just go ahead and let one
of the worst commissioners and sports go ahead and do
the talking here.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
There's a huge amount of our content that people can
essentially consume for free. I mean, this is very much
a highlights based sport. You know. So you know Instagram, TikTok,
you know Twitter, you name it, any service you know
The New York Times.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
For that matter.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
The extent that your content is not behind a paid firewall,
there's an enormous amount of content out there YouTube. By
another example that people that is advertising based that consumers
can consume.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Is that one of the worst things that you could
ever hear a commissioner say is that we're just a
highlight league and you can watch that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You watch like a dense highlight package on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
All right, So was that truths to what he said? Okay, yeah,
there was a little bit of truth there, all right.
But that's like the approach of a lot of the
record labels now where they don't care about artists making
full bodies of work. They're like, if we can get
a couple of hit singles that end up blowing up
and getting placements, then that's what we're good with. Because
when you do, especially the younger generation like my son's
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age and old and stuff. And I remember Matt Barnes
saying something to his kids about watching a game or
something like that, and they was like, well, Dad, we're
not worried about that. We'll just watch the highlights, so
we'll just catch it like they said on the tiktoks
and on those YouTube shorts and stuff like that. But
for him too, yeah, to come out and say that
it was not smart at all. And the thing that
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kills me is that, all right, you're the NBA commissioner,
but obviously you have some handlers too that help you
with press conferences and things like that, and what you're
gonna say, So, who thought that it was okay for
him to come out there in a sport that has
been having controversy, in a sport that people already look at,
you know, miles behind the n fail and you just
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want to dismiss your product, especially when players complain about
how long it is and the length of the season
and we got low management and all these things, and
you just dismiss it. And it's like, yeah, it's a
highlight league. Like nah, dog, that wasn't a good look.
Even if you think that, even if some of it
is true, not a good look.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It's terrible. I'm with you, Troppy.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think it's one of the honestly, just it's a
weird thing for a commissioner to say about the league
that he commissions. You're creating the problem. So if the
problem is that there's not enough interest in the games anyway,
you're also creating it by saying stuff like this With
people who can't afford streaming services because you just have
to pile on for whatever you want to watch. There
are things that are going to go to the bottom
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of the barrel where NBA games might not be as
important as some of consumer's favorite shows. And so now
they got to make a decision instead of trying to
help them not have to make that decision and provide
a product that they can watch a little more easily. Instead,
what you say is, yeah, just go watch a two
minute clip on Twitter and check us out during the
meaningful games. That doesn't help bring money to the league,
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and it continues to be short sighted. It goes back
to a point that I made when we were doing
the eighty two game schedule release Schedule show here on WFNZ.
You look at all of the star players they continue
to hold on for dear life on marketing, Lebron James
on marketing, some of the older players that are going
to be out of the league at some point soon
we can have all of the Lebron's going to play
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until these forty five conversations that we want to. At
some point, it's going to end. How people become fans
of weird teams or just become fans of the league.
Is on these random nights watching Wednesday Night basketball, seeing
the Hornets take the court, falling in love with their jersey,
falling in love with the LaMelo ball behind the back
pass that happened on that specific night where a five
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year old was watching and deciding, you know what basketball
is for me, and I love LaMelo and that's how
you grow the freaking sport. But instead what you want
to do is now funnel all of your couldn't all
of your viewership to Twitter and highlights to where yet
you get to see them behind the back pass, but
they don't have the same feeling as watching it in
real time, where you caught something. It was organic, you
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went to a place. It's like seeing an animal in
the wild as opposed to seeing it in the zoo. Man,
I know what I'm gonna go see with these highlights,
But watching it organically, now I had a meaningful relationship
with that specific moment and that's what breeds fandom. And
now what you're doing is all of this short sided
stuff that is contributing to the problem. That's what I
don't get, even from a cynical standpoint, even just viewing
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that as man, you guys don't understand that you're hurting
yourselves here. How many complaints do we get on the
FanDuel text line saying I just want to watch Hornets games.
Now you're actively playing defense. You are Bill Lambier clotheslining
consumers trying to go to your product saying nope, go
back to Twitter. It makes absolutely no sense, Like really,
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even from a business standpoint, where is the sensical sensible?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Excuse me? You got a sensible take?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Adam Silver When he says something like this, it's tone
deaf as hell too, like, yeah, go watch the highlights.
I know I have a huge problem with it. I'm
glad you brought it up because it's it's an asinine
take to have to tell your consumers. Nah, man, you
don't need to watch the games. Do advertisers like this?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I still like this. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Seven or four number had a fantastic point saying, mind you,
they have a new TV deal with NBC.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I'm sure they were not happy about that. Response.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Is they like seeing a hell bend to salamander In
a while, I could go to the zoo. I think
they have one in Ashboro if I'm not mistaken, because
they have a North American part of the zoo.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I've seen a hellbender there. It was cool, but not
as cool as it will be when I see one
in Boone. Finally finding that hellbender.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Salamander got another text I want to read before I
move on Fig Newton hater saying extreamey spread the word buddy,
let me hold your hand whenever I tell you this.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know if you missed the news, Well, it
looks like they might be back.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I saw some other story that contradicted the FBI shutting
that thing down. So maybe I'm wrong on this. So
I don't know. We'll see. Maybe there's like crape dry
ass cooking.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I said the other day. I was like, y'all, I
need some sweet I need some figs.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Really, Okay, I have not craved a fig Newton all
my life.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It might have.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Might have to make that stop.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Today I got called an uncultured savage by not the
last time I hated on fake new.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, man, I don't know what's wrong with you. Man,
It's not for me.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Also, my my last thing with that from Adam Silver.
If it's a highlights based league, then why wasn't Why
wasn't Lamello in your old Star game. It's so it's
a good fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a good point.
He just contradicts himself so much.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I know you you called him the worst commissioner in sports.
He's certainly been trending that way in the last five years.
He didn't used to be that way. There's a reason
the NFL went to Adam Silver to see if he
would be open to being the commissioner of the NFL
because Roger Goodell used to be this hated guy and
that was a thing that happens now. I mean, I
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think most people would put Roger Goodell ahead of what
Adam Silver has done. What a tone deaf comment, like,
you don't do yourself any favorite I.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
See by miss the Freeze because you know, he looks
like mister Freeze off Batman animated series.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Speaking of Hellbenders, he looks kind of like the Airbender. Sorry,
that's messed up. I apologize. What else you got, oh,
pile on?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
He kind of looks like a vampire, you know, if
you were to imagine one in a movie or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right, he does.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's enough of that. Moving on to a little bit
of college football. One of our one of our favorite guys,
Paul Feinbaum, had some harsh words to say about Bill
Belichick in his first two games of the college football season.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Your assessment of the first two games of Bill Belichick's
collegiate coaching careers one.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's fairly laughable.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I just I want to be a fan of Bill Belichick,
but he makes it impossible. The first game was just
an absolute and total disaster on the biggest stage that
he probably not probably will ever have at North Carolina.
The second game meant nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I mean, they're playing at Charlotte.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I mean, not exactly the bastion of college football.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I think he'll struggle.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I think his comments this week make it even more difficult.
I mean, why do you have to continue to be
Bill Belichick? I guess maybe because you're seventy three years old,
But to say what he did about locking the Patriots out,
it's just downright stupid. And by the way, we both
saw the first game against TCU. Did you see a
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single prospect on this team that anybody would want to
come visit?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
But in deference to your players, you can't say that
you want to open the doors. But Bill Belichick's always
been a petty, small minded man. But when you win
six super Bowls and you're an assistant on two other ones,
you can get away with.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
So some harsh word, especially there the end, did Paul
find mom maybe go a little too far? Or do
you think he's justified with everything that he said there?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, you know, the biggest stages there ever beyond
I'm calling cap on that one. But I mean it's
Paul finebamb What else can you expect from him. He's
going to be bold every single time he steps in
front of a microphone, no matter how wrong he is.
And that's why he's in the spot that he's in.
He's not afraid to say the things that a lot
of people won't say. But yeah, I did think that
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that was a bit petty by Bill Belichick, especially for
a god that's priding his team as the thirty third
NFL team then, and also with phrases going in his
past circles like be a pro and things of that nature,
and yeah, regardless, you guys have some bad history, but
you should be a pro and let the Patriots come
in there and do their job and do what they
need to do. Because if I'm a parent, and you're
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selling my child on going to the NFL. But yet
you have teams that you want to blackball because of
your own personal grudges.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, that is not a good look.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Look he says it a little harsher, because that's who
Paul Finebomb is. I can't tell you I disagreed with
a lot of the stuff that he said. The thing
that I agree with the most is that Bill Belichick
is making it really hard to pull for him with
anything that he says. With getting destroyed by TCU not
beating Charlotte as much as they should have. Frankly, Charlotte
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left some opportunities out there only to their doing. They
missed a touchdown pass because they dropped, or they dropped
a touchdown pass, the missed a field goal. So I
was surprised to see Carolina not get it back on
track a little more.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So he makes it hard.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And then when you are asked in the postgame presser
about the Patriots being banned from your organization and not
being allowed to evaluate talent, and you said, yet, I'm
not welcome there, They're not welcome here.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, what am I rabel do?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
A guy that helps you win a couple of Super
Bowls on offense and defense. Sorry for Panthers fans to
have to relive that moment, but Rabel said, Bill Belichick
is freaking welcome in New England, man, Like we actually
invited him for some of the things that we did
to celebrate some of the teams of Super Bowls passed.
He's bat In fact, I think he was back within
the last couple of years. Like Vrabel just kind of
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brushing this off, saying, I don't know what he's talking about. Man,
I don't get it. The last thing I'll say too, Wes.
I brought this up with Flounder on Friday because we
talked with Jeff Howe who had that report.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
First.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
There's a little bit of a North Carolina to New
England pipeline when it comes to some college football prospects.
Few NC State guys got drafted there. This was an
NC State alum allegedly who did get turned away. Kyle
Duggar from the North Ryan got drafted by New England
and so, okay, it's just one team out of thirty
one other ones that you could get drafted by. But
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I wonder if it has a bigger impact because New
England will come down to the Carolinas and draft dudes
quite a bit. And you know how the scouting departments work.
Everybody's got their own area. Apparently they respect this scout
a lot in order to draft dudes in this specific area.
And yet you're not allowing them to get I don't know,
just yeah, he makes it hard to pull for him.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right, one more sound by way more I have.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Is actually pretty interesting listening to Dave Canalis's press conference
yesterday when he was asked if McMillan had an impact
on the field outside of catching passes.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
I didn't see huge adjustments by the defense taking him
into consideration. He had some good one on one ops,
he won most of them. You know, there was a
good opportunity down in the end zone, you know where
uh where the where the corner made a great play
on the post throw. But I think just in general,
you know, whether we move him around, put him in
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the single, he just give us an ability to have
another reliable target that attacks the ball like we've seen
you know, so and then and then I just kind
of was feeling his energy going into the game, and
he was very confident beforehand. It felt like he was
prepared and he had a great date graded out, you know,
mentally in terms of knowing what to do and all
that pretty good too.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
So if the trend continues, obviously defenses are gonna have to, uh,
you know, be ready for McMillan. Do you think that
maybe over the course of the season, if he continues
to be the wide receiver one, we see his production
dip as he gets more of a focus put on
him by opposing defenses.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He may take a little bit of a lull because
he's going to have to figure out how he's going
to adjust to what teams are doing to him, and
his coaching staff will have to try to figure that
out as well. Why it is imperative that he finds
another running mate in that passing attack. It could be J. T. Sanders,
it could be Tremble, it could be anybody. But they've
got to find somebody to lessen the load on him.
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Because the more the word gets out, the more the
tape gets out on the fact that he is the
guy and there's not really much else, it's going to
be very difficult for him and not to mention for
him individually. That's what the NFL is. They get that
tape on you, and they start to figure out, Okay,
what is he like? What does he not like to do?
And we're gonna spend this whole game trying to make
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him do what he doesn't like to do. So that's
also going to be a part of his learning curve too.
So yeah, that week one he was able to come
out and enjoy some success. But now teams are looking say, okay,
they like to do this with him, They like to
do that, all right, he likes this, he likes that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So they're not only.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Going to try to take away his tendencies and what
he likes to do, but they're also going to direct
all it covers to him until somebody else steps up.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ye, and it's up to Dave Canalis. It's up to
t MAC to stay ahead of that because you've got
to be countering what they might be countering. You have
to have adjustments. Okay, we're going to do this until
it doesn't work. Once it doesn't work, this is a
nice counter to what those answers might be to the
first thing that we were doing. So it's up to
the offensive staff and it's up to t MAC to
continue that trend in a positive direction. You're right, you
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are working against a couple of things. You are a rookie.
Now you might be the only target that is reliable
at least for the next three weeks, so bracket coverage
having to work against that. We're going to try to
move you around and get the football in your hands.
But if you get the football in your hands five
yards past the line of scrimmage, can we scheme up
some blocks for you to be able to get some
yak And if you don't, then okay, maybe it's not
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going to be as productive as that Week one game
against Jacksonville. So learning what you are and you being
the only reliable target right now, it's a lot to overcome.
I will say on the on pace stats for t MAC,
I know I was talking about one hundred and forty targets.
The on pay stats are one hundred and fifty three targets,
eighty five receptions, eleven hundred and fifty yards, six touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Which is going to be wonky all the way through.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like on pay stats, we use those as jokes a
lot of the time. I actually don't think this is
really a show because if I were to ask you,
who's going to get thrown to the most we'd all
say team AC. Certainly in the early going, he had
nine targets in this game against Jacksonville. It didn't seem unsustainable.
I really do think one fifty is probably a good
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mark to go with saying that's how many targets he's
going to finish up with in the seventeen game season.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
We'll see how he's on pace for thirty two touchdowns
and no picks. There you go. I saw that as well.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That's true. That's where the jokes come in with the
on pace stats. I stay in corrected or too sche
to say the very least. One more segment to go,
it's the walkoff. Sports Radio, ninety two to seven WFNZ.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Are you challenging me to a walk off? Oh yeah,
that's a walk off challenge, my friend. It's a walk off.
It's a walk off.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
One more segments ago, West and Walker, Sports Radio, ninety
two to seven, wfn Z. Bagel, guy, already, we got
you taken care of.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
We'll get to it. He's saying, we need Wes's official
pick for Sunday. We will get to it in just
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Thursday Night Football. It's the game I think is going
to be the best this extended weekend. If you will,
eight fifteen kick. Green Bay is favored by three and
a half points in Lambeau Field. Commanders want to know,
Packers want to know who you're picking in this game.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'm gonna take green Bay at home. I think green
Bay as a team that's definitely going to compete for
Super Bowl contention.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
This defense last year was top five in the league.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
They were among the league leaders in Saxon, and you
add Michael Parsons to that bunch. Man, I think Green
Bay is gonna be really good at balanced offensively too.
I like old Jade Daniels and the crew as you know,
but I think that they meet their demise tonight in
Lambeau Shropy.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I look at you, I see the gambling portion of
who you are. I see the S and Shroppie stand
for a dollar side. What you think in betting on
this particular matchup, Yeah, I would. I would still take
green Bay to cover.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I think just because they're at home, and if it
was the opposite, if it was, you know, in Washington
and the Commanders were three and a half point favorite,
I take them there too. I think this is heavily
dictated by Packers having the home field advantage. Lambo is
going to be rocking, and yeah, I think, you know,
Michael Parsons is going to have even more of an
impact on this game than he did last week.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Play plays more snaps, So I'll be taking Green Bay cover.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jane Daniels doesn't make a lot of mistakes. I think
that's key once again, and the fact that if he
throws one interception that just might be too many for
Washington against this team. I think the Packers are loaded
the way they looked against the Lions, even with them
missing some coordinators and their offensive line not having Frank
rag Now anymore. I don't know if anybody expected the
Packers to be that dominant defensively against that respected of
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a team that has had success the last couple of years.
I'm going to go with the Packers to win as well.
I think Green Bay covers also, and that's no disrespect
to Washington. I think Green Bay just might be that
for real college football tonight. It's your lum or, it's you.
I'm a manor. I should say NC State at wake Forest.
We already told you the spread. It is NC State
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favored by seven and a half. Kickoff at seven thirty
on ESPN. We all chose, well, that's not true, and
I chose NC State. Shroppy was real disrespectful with it
when he said that he thinks they're going to destroy you. Guys,
gotta go run our test on him, saying he needs
to respect his elders. You picked wake Forest. What's the
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key for wake Forest to be able to pull off
this up.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
And mind Claiborne to have a massive game, and he's
got to be able to open things up for the
passing attack. But coming off a ten carry one hundred
and ninety six yard performance one ninety three excuse me
last week. I think that you know he's in store
to come out here and have another big game. He
can hurt you in a myriad of ways, whether it's
special teams, receiving or rushing. So I expect a big
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game from Clayver Worne, what.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
About Robbie Ashford twenty seven in this last game against
Western Carolina one touchdown. That's the thing, man, if you're
NC State to me in my novice opinion, don't you
just stack the box and begged Robbie asher to beat you.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
This is the thing is that he did hit a
deep ball last week, and that's what he can do.
He might not be the quarterback that can kill you
with a thousand cuts as far as just sitting back
there and dissect, but he is a guy that if
they can get the run game going, that he can
play action and he can beat you over the top.
He throws a beautiful deep ball that is pretty accurate.
So I think that's what he can do. The problem
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would be more so for me if they decide to
sit in coverage and make him read the field. That's
where he struggles right there. So that's why I think
that run game it is very very important for them
to establish that tonight so they can define reads for
him so that when we do need him, they hit
a big play. He can do that and then we
already know, you know, if he gets loose in the
pocket and gets a step, he can make it happen there.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I brought up Catamounts football, which means smoke. Came into
the Chandler vault to studios and grabbed the microphone which
you got for us.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
They're smoking.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Have you seen Western Carolina's defense? They're batter than bad. Okay,
of course Ash is going to ball out against that defense.
Good Ward, they blew a thirty five to seven lead
at home against Cardner Webb.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, so I don't know if painful.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
ANC State defense is very questionable, but it looks light
years better ahead of what Western Carolina's defense is right now.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
By the way, Free Tiger let him play against Elin
this weekend. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Free Tiger God is at twenty eleven. Im getting gracious
what you got over there, Strappie.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, I'm gonna take Obviously, I'm going with NC State.
If I'm giving a score prediction, I think I'm gonna
go with thirty to seventeen, seks.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Twenty three to twenty and a game that will have
me laying on the floor by the end of it
because I might have a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You gotta text Shoppy after it, no, say, okay, that's
speaks man. You'll see it and you'll see them Monday.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah that's true. What else you got?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
I was gonna say, yeah, Okay, if Wake Forest wins,
I will I will send you a congratulations. I will
send you a congratulations text and say sorry I was mistake.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
We've got a good atmosphere going.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Look we got Sports Center there, we got Matt Matt
James getting the crowd.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Oh my god, I forgot about that. Yeah, coinball, I
mean yeah, man, we got the crowd going. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
It's gonna be lit tonight. Wait yeah, wait, Oh, we're
gonna have a raucous crowd. We have Matt James leading us.
I don't know, man, I don't know. If it's gonna
be jumping. You're gonna come out there to see what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
The He'll be nice. It's gonna be a beautiful night.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
If they score a touchdown earlier, they gonna leave immediately.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
NC State, no, it will take for them to you know,
but really to get down and dirty for the fans.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I think NC State wins. I think they cover, but
I don't think it's not likely gonna be a fourteen
point game.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It'll be a ten points a good game, man.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
I mean, we do pretty well against them at home.
If you go check the stats, they don't do too
hot when they come to Winston Salem.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Carolina, Carolina, Arizona prediction. What you got, you got? You're
gonna be a Panthers homer. Uh nope, because I think
the dance. Why you say we're gonna uh.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You know the Panthers, man, right now, I just gotta
see some more scheming from that offense, because I just
don't believe the weapons are there. I believe Arizona wins
in a similar fashion to what they did against the
New Orleans something thinking somewhere along the lines of you know,
twenty three, twenty twenty six to ten, something along those lines.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Okay, yeah, they only beat the Saints by seven in
the first game. If your scenario happens, then it still
gets ugly next week.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
The way that we talk about the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
You get beat by a couple of touchdowns or close
to it, then it's gonna be a pretty ugly conversation.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
The Panther up. You don't wait untill tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'm gonna wait till tomorrow, man, I don't have to
wait I don't have panther have to tell Friday.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, I'll text you my pick.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Lastly, could we get the Charlotte Monument score that you're
going with Charlotte Monmouth.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Just tell me. I'm gonna go Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
This defense is gonna have to come to the table though,
but I'm gonna give Charlotte to credit that they can
come out there and score some points in this one.
Give me Charlotte twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
To twenty Yeah, touchdown, awesome, Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Six to three. I'll take it. I know I'll take it,
and I'll leave there. You go, West picking the forty
nine ers to win this weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
All right, have a safe trip, man, A right, man,
I will, and you know I'll be checking in from
down in hopefully what we'll be stunning miam All right, we'll.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Figure out the schedule, but you'll be joining us tomorrow
at some point to talk about that game. A really
fun one, man, Miami, USF do the Bulls have something
for the Canes. West will be here tomorrow with us
to talk audio at least on the guest line. That'll
do it for us. Wes and Walker keep it right
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one in not your account but a different West. He said,
ron Our Test aka Metal World Peace would make Draymond
Green be quiet real quick and there's a clip that
you showed me of that happening.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
People said that there were some honorable mentions because the
list that you saw wasn't even my original list. I
went back and revised it because I was like, all right, well,
I wanted to make it a little bit more current.
But I had like John McEnroe on there, I had
Tanya Harding on there.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Okay, yeah, I had some bangers. There was a lot
to tools from.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yet, so like badass and mean is something different, And
if we were just sticking to the strict definition of mean,
I don't That's why I don't think you put Metal
World Peace up there. You know what I'm saying, Like
Medle World Peace is just respected. Yeah, he is a
bad bad man that I'm like, I respect Metal World Peace.
Draymond Green is mean, Like yeah, straight, he wasn't. Yeah,
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ron On Tests was a fina.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
He was I'm not necessarily gonna start it all the time,
but I'll finish it if you need me to.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
And he was not. He wasn't just mean. He didn't
do stuff to agitate people.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well he did a little bit, No, he did, right,
not as bad as Draymond. But he was an agitated
I'm sorry, let me walk that one back. He was
a little bit of an answer. No, no, But I
think you and I feel very similarly about this. Bill
Lambier mean yes, mean cuss Isaiah Thomas mean yeah, and
he's the worst kind of me. Yeah, because Isaiah Thomas
would do something and then he'd run behind Rick Mahorn
and Bill Lampiert. Like Isaiah Thomas one of the most
(02:32):
and oddly forgotten about best of our time.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Also, I really don't like him. Yeah, you know, I
just really don't. Would we put Larry Bird in mean yeah,
he was kind.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Of mean because he talked so much trash and he
would hard value and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
He was scrapped. You wouldn't call him nice.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Yeah, I would agree. I think Larry Bird could have
been in here. But we put Michael Jordan in percent
no doubt. Mean Michael Jordan wasn't nice. Yeah, what you
got shopped?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I was going to add one from the high world.
Ron Heckstall, the old goalie for the Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I can read you a few things here.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Uh suspended in the Stanley Cup finals for a slash
that was egregious also twice in his career more than
one hundred penalty minutes in the season, which is for
a goalie that just doesn't happen. It makes sense that
that was was And he also scored a goal too,
He's I think he was the first goalie to actually
score a goal.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
What did he do it a empty net? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Okay, I was gonna ask you too, because I saw
way and Gretzky came up when I googled it, like
the AI gave me that too.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was he considered mean that he was actually a good
trash talker?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, but he wasn't when I'm thinking about me, and
like Ron Heckstall would fight people.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, guys that would do stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah yeah, yeah, who are What about the Brad Marshan
and the Marsians?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
No Marsians. He his description is what he is. He's
just a rat. He's just out there to annoy you.
I don't know if i'd say he's the meanest. He's
just really good at getting under your skin. But I
wouldn't say he's like out there like dirty. I guess
he kind of is.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't want this to turn into let's ask Shoppy
about hockey players radio. But I do have one other question.
Who was the big tall goon I think for the
Penguins that was always very feared.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Maybe I'm.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
That's exactly Ruins, Thank you, Black and Yellow is what
I was thinking of. But yes, one hundred percent it
was Chara. Does he fit the description of one of
the meaner guys or was he just being Nobody want.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
To me because it was It was always hilarious. Try
to watch guys like fight Chara because they're swinging just
almost up, just straight up.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
So he was. He was to where West was saying
about that last guy.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
He didn't really instigate things, but he would It would
definitely end him.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Uh, Metal World Peace. Do you think he's the most respected. Oh,
we need to not mess with that guy? NBA player
of the last I don't know since two thousands.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
And those are gods of retaliation and like fighting too,
because Michael, of course there's.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Plenty to say.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I mean or Kobe something on the Yeah, it's
different from this guys that people didn't want to mess with.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, because Zoe was like that, but then he got
into a lot.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Of fights like people, Yeah he did, people says gangster,
but run on tests, I probably would say is the
one guy that people did not really challenge him in that.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
It's a great way to measure it. You just said
it right there. Who tests your gangster?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah? And if they don't, that means your gangster yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Because you know those NBA guys, even though they don't
necessarily always swing punches, but they will. You know, if
you're supposed to be a tough guy, they're gonna especially
in the nineties in early two thousands, they were gonna
find out about you. Now you gave him into the game,
they were gonna test you. And another great basketball player
to put on that list would have been Keny Martin.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Keny Martin was mean for sure. Oakley is another name
that I think of Oakley with somebody didn't really want.
He was an enforcer that didn't get tryed. It might
be on the NBA of Mount Rushmore. He really might
be game players. You've heard me tell this story a
million times. If you're new to the show, then here's
your first time hearing it, because I gotta tell you.
But uh, my favorite bar maybe of all time in
terms of passionate statements from athletes is Metal World Peace.
(06:06):
In that documentary Malice at the Palace or the untold
series on Netflix. When he's talking about Malice at the Palace,
he says, it was just my mindset, and then he
goes into this blank stare and goes into this dark
space where he says, I don't care. I'll die right here.
I'll die right here. For some reason hit home for
(06:26):
me the way he was looking at the camera. I
felt scared, like, you really will. I believe you. I
don't think you care if you die right there. Because
of his upbringing, because of his mental illness that he's
admittedly said that he's working on to this day. What
like I wanted three part documentary on Metal World Peace.
(06:46):
I would watch that with popcorn in hand.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
There was one that came out about him that was
on Showtime, maybe four fives going off watching one. Yes,
it was good. I'll put you on during the break
I did. I watched it and it was really really good.
Well and for the local angle. Steve Smith, Yes, me,
Steve Smith was. Steve Smith was mean, He was kind
of a finisher. Two liked.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
He would almost start stuff and maybe Smitty would say
something different about it. He would almost start stuff to
get himself going almost like a self amplifier, and then
if somebody else did something to him, it felt like
he would be ready for the smell.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Is that a good way to describe it?
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Like his spinning of the football, his chest pounding, his
talking was almost really to get himself going. But if
somebody came to him, now he's ready to go. Yeah,
no doubt about it. That's how I would describe Steve Smith,
but maybe he would describe it differently. Who knows. Good
inclusion there though as well? Seven oh four five, seven
ninety six ten. I like this art. Vandala said eighty
(07:47):
nine played like he had rabies. I love that description
of Smitty just foaming at the mouth to play some football.
I hope these guys are. It sounds like they are
with what Dave Canalis was discussing. The mood was like
after that game against Jacksonville, where every one of these
players was responding Wes. We talked about it in the
first segment. This is where your culture fixes some of
(08:08):
the things that go wrong, and you're always gonna have
to get over a bad game. Every team has a
bad game. You might win it, but up to your standards,
every team has a bad game. And Carolina had a
really bad one. Outright embarrassing is what we called it.
That's what they did against Jacksonville week one. How do
you feel getting some of your thoughts because you won't
(08:29):
be with us tomorrow, You're going to be out down
in Miami traveling to Miami for the USF Miami game.
What are the keys of the game for Carolina to
respond the way that they should?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Man, I think that for one, the number one thing
is Carolina's going to have to find another threat in
the passing game besides Tetro and McMillan, because I think Arizona,
certainly number one on the list, is going to take
him completely out. I think the keys for them offensively
to half success. I think it is, like I said,
finding a second threat, and then also to be able
to get the run game better because you have to
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have more production than what you had there.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I think you want to see Tuba eighty yards are better.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You want to see him get on the board with
the rushing score as well. So and I'd like to
see a little bit more Rico Duto a little one
two punch there. But like I said, objective number one
is for them to be able to find another threat,
get Tuba going, and then defensively, man, I mean it
sounds very simple, cliche or however you want to put it,
but this Arizona Cardinals team, we said it was the
(09:28):
second worst run blocking team in the NFL last week.
You have to be able to exploit that to a degree.
If you're the Carolina Panthers, and maybe you don't have
the horses to be able to just shut them down,
but you know, two fifty. I feel like at this point,
if you can stay in the one twenty five to
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one forty range, I think that that would be a
big improvement for you.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
And so I think that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Man.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
They got to keep Arizona between one hundred and twenty.
At one hundred and fifty yards rushing, even though that's
not great, but it's still better than what you've been
given up.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So the Saints had one hundred and seven yards rushing
on just twenty two carries against the Cardinals in this
first game.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Not the average Kamara it was.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Kamara only had eleven carries but had forty five yards,
did have one touchdown Kendra Miller the backup down in
New Orleans twenty four yards on five carries. Spencer Rattler
got rushing a little bit, which we know Bryce Young
can do. Perhaps that's something we should discuss. Maybe Bryce
Young uses his legs and he did so a little
bit in Jacksonville. Just don't fumble the football. Other than that,
please start to take off a little more. But Spencer
(10:35):
Ratler had twenty nine yards rushing. If you look at
the grades that Cardinals defense had, they were not good
against the run, and they actually weren't good getting out
for the passer.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
They were excellent in coverage.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
That makes sense if Will Johnson is going to play
like pre injured Will Johnson and Buddha Baker is going
to be who he is. So I think you're dead
on It's probably something that will repeat over and over again,
but I think it matters a ton in Week two
on the football effectively. If you can run the football effectively,
it opens up everything else you talked about, allowing more
opportunities for a second pass catcher outside of TMAC. It
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allows you to have safeties cheating down in the box
and making sure that Tuba doesn't break a big runoff.
Same thing with Rico Daddle. If he starts to get going,
maybe some play action too, Rico Daddle to getting him
involved in the passing game and not dropping footballs like
he did. Even though it was a lot of heat
on that football. Still it was a drop that caused
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Bryce Shonging to have an interception that shouldn't have been
ruled one. Yeah, it's running the football.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Man. I would love to see Cuba.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Not only get twenty carries, but overall, Man, I want
thirty carries in this game.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I want.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I want Cuba and Rico and Bryce if you want
to throw him some, if you give me thirty plus,
I'll be a happy man.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I think that. Also.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
You know, it's a great point that you bring to
the tables well when you talk about the backs, because
can you use the run game to be yele to
get you some cheapies? Because I think one thing to
look for early is how disrespectful are the Cardinals going
to be?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
What do I mean by that?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
How many guys are playing in a box like you said,
are they just playing one high? Are they coming down
with some zero looks early in the game, Guys just
walking into the box like we don't give a darn
about your receivers or your passing game.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
We stopping this run game.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
We're putting you in third long and then we're gonna
see what you can do because we only feel like
you have wat one receiver. So I think that's the
thing for fans that look at too man to go
inside of things just a little bit. Look at how
far the safeties are walked down into the box from
the onset of this game, and that will tell you
how much they respect or don't respect this Panther's offense.
Because if they're sitting down there, you know, eight nine
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guys sitting in there and just saying, okay, bright shing,
you're gonna have to beat us today. And I think
that's going to tell you everything you need to know
about what they do.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Plus, it's a nice way to ease a key back
into the swing of things having played his first NFL game.
As long as he does suit up against Arizona. We
all know that run blocking is specialty compared to pass blocking.
So if you let him eat at what he does best,
and the guards are better run blockers than they have
been pass protectors. At Austin Corbett, as bad as he
was in pass protection, I don't think he was terrible
(13:13):
in run blocking. You just got to figure out how
to not snap it high every fifth time and make
sure that you don't provide interior pressure. But if you
can do that and then you can give me the
same run blocking, I'll take it from Austin Corbett. So
it feels like that's the game plan that should be implemented,
which of course means the defense can't.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Allow the Cardinals to get off to a big lead early.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If the Cardinals get a lead early and the Panthers
can't run the football, that's a great recipe for doom.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
And one thing I'll say too that's worth bearing out
in this game is that the Cardinals only had a
blitz percentage last week of eighteen point four percent, And
so that's going to be another thing. Do they feel
like as we see, sorry, as we see Sports Center
in Winston Salem right now getting ready for the big game,
But do the Cardinals decide to blitz more because they
feel like that there are something there as well? So
(14:02):
they didn't blitz very much last week against the New
Orleans Saints, which is arguably the worst team in football
depending on how you perceive them. So do they treat
the Panthers the same or do they up that percentage
by ten to fifteen percent?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:14):
And the thing is I make him have to blitz.
That would be great. Yeah, And I think you can.
I think the offensive line can be good enough. So
if you're talking Yosh Niman against Josh heinz Allen and
some a nice duo of edge rushers against Jacksonville, you
(14:35):
have Josh Sweat coming off the edge in this John
Gannon defense, who I think is just a good edge rusher.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I think he's good. So is that going to be?
Speaker 1 (14:44):
This just is another reason as to why I want
to run the football, like, let Ikey get in the
swing of things before we really start to deploy him
in a bunch.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Of pass protection.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
And by the way, Bagel Guy says, thirty carries, Walker's
trying to play nineteen thirties football. You're not entirely wrong,
but thirty carries isn't a crazy.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And also to what those thirty carries mean, because if
two big gets to the thirty carry mark, that means
for one year in the football game and or you're
playing with the lead in the fourth quarter, if he
does get that many carries, because if you're down or
constantly chasing the lead, especially the later it gets. You're
not getting to the thirty carry mark as a running back, right,
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which means, yeah, don't get down big. Make sure the
running game is still a meaningful part of your offense.
And so if you give me, you know, over twenty
for Cuba, if you give me seven to eight for Rico,
now you're pretty much already there, not counting what Bryce
Young might do on some scrambles or some not designed runs. Yeah,
(15:40):
like that's that gives you over thirty. The Cardinals had
twenty seven rushes last week. They were only three off
of it. It's certainly attainable. Okay, live wire coming up next.
I don't know who's going to be behind the board
for the live wire, but it's gonna be fun either way.
Sports RADI ninety two to seven WFNZQUS and Walker Sports
(16:12):
Radio ninety two seven WFNZ. Only a couple more segments
to go and then we is gone, going down to
South Beach. He's taking his talents. You're excited for the
Miami trip? Yeah, man, no doubt. I mean this game,
it should be a good one. Back the into it.
Nobody would have thought at the beginning of the season
that South Florida. Miami would be a ranked matchup, especially
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with South Florida the way on which it has happened
with them beating two ranked teams. So if they win
this game, they would join Miami as the only team
to begin a season beating three ranked opponents.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, I mean, yeah, like, how much respect should we
give to us after you.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Got to I mean, you go into the swamp and
beat the Florida Gators and then you beat the breaks
off Boise State. Now, like I said, there's a lot
of chapters to be told in both of those team seasons.
Do both of them in the season being looked at
as really good wins for USF. But regardless of the fact,
nobody expected USF to win either of those games. And
so them coming to Miami had some extra sauce on
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it because you know, those boys at one point a
lot of them wanted to play for Miami. You know
there's a rivalry element there, and you know that especially
you know Miami being a private school too. So you
throw all that in the pot, those fans are going
to show up because I would bet you money that
a lot of Miami fans kind of sold their tickets
for this game when the season, when they got their
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tickets this year, or that the attendance wasn't where it
needed to be and a lot of those South Florida
fans are gobbling up those tickets. So it's going to
be a Rockets atmosphere, man. So I can't wait, just
like Baylor and SMU was.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Well, I mean, if we set up camp here for
just a moment, you talk about USF beating twenty fifth
rank Boise State thirty four to seven Florida in the
swap eighteen to sixteen. Now you have a road game
against Miami in this game, and with USF, is that
you can't hold them out of a high seed of
a college football playoff ranking, depending on what Florida and
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Boise State does the rest of the way. But there's
no they played a cupcake schedule. I mean maybe after
the first few games of the season, but before that
it was crazy hard. And you have some good teams left.
So you still have Memphis on the road, Texas San Antonio,
like Texas and Antonio was thought of to be a
(18:30):
high program, and what they're going to accomplish within the
American Conference this year, it's gonna be tough. To not
that they would leave them out if they only are
if they won every game but one. But even still,
man like, I wonder how high you would rank them
given what their logo is, what conference they play in.
But there's not too many mid majors quote unquote that
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would run through Boise State, Florida. Maybe Miami. I don't
think it happens, but maybe. And you got to respect
them just as much as you would respect any prime
time pro, no doubt about it.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
Man.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
And if you're South Florida, you cannot drop the ball
past this point because even if you lose this thing,
let's just say that they lose by the spread at
eighteen and a half, Okay, nobody's going to look at
that and ridicule them Florida, especially if they run rough
shot over their conference's schedule win a conference championship. I
think you're definitely looking at them as being a group
of five team that gets into the college football playoffs.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
It's definitely crazy to watch what they've done so far.
And the other thing, I'll say, even if they lose Miami,
as you mentioned, they can still be that playoff team.
It's just they'll have one loss to Charlotte when they
do have the forty nine ers go on the road.
But other than that, I think it'll probably be pretty good.
For what the bullzel Shoppy's laughing at me. That's disrespectful, dude,
I got that, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Don't laugh about Niners man.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
That game's on ESPN two by the way, that will
be on Friday, October third. All right, you ready to
play some sound, Let's do it, Shoppy, you know the deal.
Time now for the live wire with shop.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
In the West and the West up north live wise guy.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Well, for good reason, it's been pretty much all football today.
But there's audio clip I want to play for Adam Silver.
I think this has to be addressed. This has to
be addressed. So I'll just go ahead and let one
of the worst commissioners and sports go ahead and do
the talking here.
Speaker 8 (20:21):
There's a huge amount of our content that people can
essentially consume for free. I mean, this is very much
a highlights based sport. You know. So you know Instagram, TikTok,
you know Twitter, you name it, any service you know
The New York Times.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
For that matter.
Speaker 8 (20:37):
The extent that your content is not behind a paid firewall,
there's an enormous amount of content out there YouTube. By
another example that people that is advertising based that consumers
can consume.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Is that one of the worst things that you could
ever hear a commissioner say is that we're just a
highlight league and you can watch that.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
You watch like a dense highlight package on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
All right, So was that truths to what he said? Okay, yeah,
there was a little bit of truth there, all right.
But that's like the approach of a lot of the
record labels now where they don't care about artists making
full bodies of work. They're like, if we can get
a couple of hit singles that end up blowing up
and getting placements, then that's what we're good with. Because
when you do, especially the younger generation like my son's
(21:18):
age and old and stuff. And I remember Matt Barnes
saying something to his kids about watching a game or
something like that, and they was like, well, Dad, we're
not worried about that. We'll just watch the highlights, so
we'll just catch it like they said on the tiktoks
and on those YouTube shorts and stuff like that. But
for him too, yeah, to come out and say that
it was not smart at all. And the thing that
(21:38):
kills me is that, all right, you're the NBA commissioner,
but obviously you have some handlers too that help you
with press conferences and things like that, and what you're
gonna say, So, who thought that it was okay for
him to come out there in a sport that has
been having controversy, in a sport that people already look at,
you know, miles behind the n fail and you just
(22:01):
want to dismiss your product, especially when players complain about
how long it is and the length of the season
and we got low management and all these things, and
you just dismiss it. And it's like, yeah, it's a
highlight league. Like nah, dog, that wasn't a good look.
Even if you think that, even if some of it
is true, not a good look.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It's terrible. I'm with you, Troppy.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think it's one of the honestly, just it's a
weird thing for a commissioner to say about the league
that he commissions. You're creating the problem. So if the
problem is that there's not enough interest in the games anyway,
you're also creating it by saying stuff like this With
people who can't afford streaming services because you just have
to pile on for whatever you want to watch. There
are things that are going to go to the bottom
(22:42):
of the barrel where NBA games might not be as
important as some of consumer's favorite shows. And so now
they got to make a decision instead of trying to
help them not have to make that decision and provide
a product that they can watch a little more easily. Instead,
what you say is, yeah, just go watch a two
minute clip on Twitter and check us out during the
meaningful games. That doesn't help bring money to the league,
(23:06):
and it continues to be short sighted. It goes back
to a point that I made when we were doing
the eighty two game schedule release Schedule show here on WFNZ.
You look at all of the star players they continue
to hold on for dear life on marketing, Lebron James
on marketing, some of the older players that are going
to be out of the league at some point soon
we can have all of the Lebron's going to play
(23:26):
until these forty five conversations that we want to. At
some point, it's going to end. How people become fans
of weird teams or just become fans of the league.
Is on these random nights watching Wednesday Night basketball, seeing
the Hornets take the court, falling in love with their jersey,
falling in love with the LaMelo ball behind the back
pass that happened on that specific night where a five
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year old was watching and deciding, you know what basketball
is for me, and I love LaMelo and that's how
you grow the freaking sport. But instead what you want
to do is now funnel all of your couldn't all
of your viewership to Twitter and highlights to where yet
you get to see them behind the back pass, but
they don't have the same feeling as watching it in
real time, where you caught something. It was organic, you
(24:10):
went to a place. It's like seeing an animal in
the wild as opposed to seeing it in the zoo. Man,
I know what I'm gonna go see with these highlights,
But watching it organically, now I had a meaningful relationship
with that specific moment and that's what breeds fandom. And
now what you're doing is all of this short sided
stuff that is contributing to the problem. That's what I
don't get, even from a cynical standpoint, even just viewing
(24:31):
that as man, you guys don't understand that you're hurting
yourselves here. How many complaints do we get on the
FanDuel text line saying I just want to watch Hornets games.
Now you're actively playing defense. You are Bill Lambier clotheslining
consumers trying to go to your product saying nope, go
back to Twitter. It makes absolutely no sense, Like really,
(24:53):
even from a business standpoint, where is the sensical sensible?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Excuse me? You got a sensible take?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Adam Silver When he says something like this, it's tone
deaf as hell too, like, yeah, go watch the highlights.
I know I have a huge problem with it. I'm
glad you brought it up because it's it's an asinine
take to have to tell your consumers. Nah, man, you
don't need to watch the games. Do advertisers like this?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Right?
Speaker 5 (25:16):
Well?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I still like this. That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Seven or four number had a fantastic point saying, mind you,
they have a new TV deal with NBC.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
I'm sure they were not happy about that. Response.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Is they like seeing a hell bend to salamander In
a while, I could go to the zoo. I think
they have one in Ashboro if I'm not mistaken, because
they have a North American part of the zoo.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
I've seen a hellbender there. It was cool, but not
as cool as it will be when I see one
in Boone. Finally finding that hellbender.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Salamander got another text I want to read before I
move on Fig Newton hater saying extreamey spread the word buddy,
let me hold your hand whenever I tell you this.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know if you missed the news, Well, it
looks like they might be back.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I saw some other story that contradicted the FBI shutting
that thing down. So maybe I'm wrong on this. So
I don't know. We'll see. Maybe there's like crape dry
ass cooking.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
I said the other day. I was like, y'all, I
need some sweet I need some figs.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Really, Okay, I have not craved a fig Newton all
my life.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
It might have.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Might have to make that stop.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Today I got called an uncultured savage by not the
last time I hated on fake new.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, man, I don't know what's wrong with you. Man,
It's not for me.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
Also, my my last thing with that from Adam Silver.
If it's a highlights based league, then why wasn't Why
wasn't Lamello in your old Star game. It's so it's
a good fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a good point.
He just contradicts himself so much.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
I know you you called him the worst commissioner in sports.
He's certainly been trending that way in the last five years.
He didn't used to be that way. There's a reason
the NFL went to Adam Silver to see if he
would be open to being the commissioner of the NFL
because Roger Goodell used to be this hated guy and
that was a thing that happens now. I mean, I
(27:07):
think most people would put Roger Goodell ahead of what
Adam Silver has done. What a tone deaf comment, like,
you don't do yourself any favorite I.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
See by miss the Freeze because you know, he looks
like mister Freeze off Batman animated series.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Speaking of Hellbenders, he looks kind of like the Airbender. Sorry,
that's messed up. I apologize. What else you got, oh,
pile on?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
He kind of looks like a vampire, you know, if
you were to imagine one in a movie or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
All right, he does.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
That's enough of that. Moving on to a little bit
of college football. One of our one of our favorite guys,
Paul Feinbaum, had some harsh words to say about Bill
Belichick in his first two games of the college football season.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Your assessment of the first two games of Bill Belichick's
collegiate coaching careers one.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's fairly laughable.
Speaker 5 (27:50):
I just I want to be a fan of Bill Belichick,
but he makes it impossible. The first game was just
an absolute and total disaster on the biggest stage that
he probably not probably will ever have at North Carolina.
The second game meant nothing.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I mean, they're playing at Charlotte.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
I mean, not exactly the bastion of college football.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I think he'll struggle.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
I think his comments this week make it even more difficult.
I mean, why do you have to continue to be
Bill Belichick? I guess maybe because you're seventy three years old,
But to say what he did about locking the Patriots out,
it's just downright stupid. And by the way, we both
saw the first game against TCU. Did you see a
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single prospect on this team that anybody would want to
come visit?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I didn't.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
But in deference to your players, you can't say that
you want to open the doors. But Bill Belichick's always
been a petty, small minded man. But when you win
six super Bowls and you're an assistant on two other ones,
you can get away with.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
So some harsh word, especially there the end, did Paul
find mom maybe go a little too far? Or do
you think he's justified with everything that he said there?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I mean, you know, the biggest stages there ever beyond
I'm calling cap on that one. But I mean it's
Paul finebamb What else can you expect from him. He's
going to be bold every single time he steps in
front of a microphone, no matter how wrong he is.
And that's why he's in the spot that he's in.
He's not afraid to say the things that a lot
of people won't say. But yeah, I did think that
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that was a bit petty by Bill Belichick, especially for
a god that's priding his team as the thirty third
NFL team then, and also with phrases going in his
past circles like be a pro and things of that nature,
and yeah, regardless, you guys have some bad history, but
you should be a pro and let the Patriots come
in there and do their job and do what they
need to do. Because if I'm a parent, and you're
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selling my child on going to the NFL. But yet
you have teams that you want to blackball because of
your own personal grudges.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, that is not a good look.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Look he says it a little harsher, because that's who
Paul Finebomb is. I can't tell you I disagreed with
a lot of the stuff that he said. The thing
that I agree with the most is that Bill Belichick
is making it really hard to pull for him with
anything that he says. With getting destroyed by TCU not
beating Charlotte as much as they should have. Frankly, Charlotte
(30:22):
left some opportunities out there only to their doing. They
missed a touchdown pass because they dropped, or they dropped
a touchdown pass, the missed a field goal. So I
was surprised to see Carolina not get it back on
track a little more.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So he makes it hard.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And then when you are asked in the postgame presser
about the Patriots being banned from your organization and not
being allowed to evaluate talent, and you said, yet, I'm
not welcome there, They're not welcome here.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, what am I rabel do?
Speaker 1 (30:49):
A guy that helps you win a couple of Super
Bowls on offense and defense. Sorry for Panthers fans to
have to relive that moment, but Rabel said, Bill Belichick
is freaking welcome in New England, man, Like we actually
invited him for some of the things that we did
to celebrate some of the teams of Super Bowls passed.
He's bat In fact, I think he was back within
the last couple of years. Like Vrabel just kind of
(31:10):
brushing this off, saying, I don't know what he's talking about. Man,
I don't get it. The last thing I'll say too, Wes.
I brought this up with Flounder on Friday because we
talked with Jeff Howe who had that report.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
First.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
There's a little bit of a North Carolina to New
England pipeline when it comes to some college football prospects.
Few NC State guys got drafted there. This was an
NC State alum allegedly who did get turned away. Kyle
Duggar from the North Ryan got drafted by New England
and so, okay, it's just one team out of thirty
one other ones that you could get drafted by. But
(31:39):
I wonder if it has a bigger impact because New
England will come down to the Carolinas and draft dudes
quite a bit. And you know how the scouting departments work.
Everybody's got their own area. Apparently they respect this scout
a lot in order to draft dudes in this specific area.
And yet you're not allowing them to get I don't know,
just yeah, he makes it hard to pull for him.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right, one more sound by way more I have.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Is actually pretty interesting listening to Dave Canalis's press conference
yesterday when he was asked if McMillan had an impact
on the field outside of catching passes.
Speaker 7 (32:09):
I didn't see huge adjustments by the defense taking him
into consideration. He had some good one on one ops,
he won most of them. You know, there was a
good opportunity down in the end zone, you know where
uh where the where the corner made a great play
on the post throw. But I think just in general,
you know, whether we move him around, put him in
(32:31):
the single, he just give us an ability to have
another reliable target that attacks the ball like we've seen
you know, so and then and then I just kind
of was feeling his energy going into the game, and
he was very confident beforehand. It felt like he was
prepared and he had a great date graded out, you know,
mentally in terms of knowing what to do and all
that pretty good too.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
So if the trend continues, obviously defenses are gonna have to, uh,
you know, be ready for McMillan. Do you think that
maybe over the course of the season, if he continues
to be the wide receiver one, we see his production
dip as he gets more of a focus put on
him by opposing defenses.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
He may take a little bit of a lull because
he's going to have to figure out how he's going
to adjust to what teams are doing to him, and
his coaching staff will have to try to figure that
out as well. Why it is imperative that he finds
another running mate in that passing attack. It could be J. T. Sanders,
it could be Tremble, it could be anybody. But they've
got to find somebody to lessen the load on him.
(33:27):
Because the more the word gets out, the more the
tape gets out on the fact that he is the
guy and there's not really much else, it's going to
be very difficult for him and not to mention for
him individually. That's what the NFL is. They get that
tape on you, and they start to figure out, Okay,
what is he like? What does he not like to do?
And we're gonna spend this whole game trying to make
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him do what he doesn't like to do. So that's
also going to be a part of his learning curve too.
So yeah, that week one he was able to come
out and enjoy some success. But now teams are looking say, okay,
they like to do this with him, They like to
do that, all right, he likes this, he likes that.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
So they're not only.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Going to try to take away his tendencies and what
he likes to do, but they're also going to direct
all it covers to him until somebody else steps up.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Ye, and it's up to Dave Canalis. It's up to
t MAC to stay ahead of that because you've got
to be countering what they might be countering. You have
to have adjustments. Okay, we're going to do this until
it doesn't work. Once it doesn't work, this is a
nice counter to what those answers might be to the
first thing that we were doing. So it's up to
the offensive staff and it's up to t MAC to
continue that trend in a positive direction. You're right, you
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are working against a couple of things. You are a rookie.
Now you might be the only target that is reliable
at least for the next three weeks, so bracket coverage
having to work against that. We're going to try to
move you around and get the football in your hands.
But if you get the football in your hands five
yards past the line of scrimmage, can we scheme up
some blocks for you to be able to get some
yak And if you don't, then okay, maybe it's not
(34:52):
going to be as productive as that Week one game
against Jacksonville. So learning what you are and you being
the only reliable target right now, it's a lot to overcome.
I will say on the on pace stats for t MAC,
I know I was talking about one hundred and forty targets.
The on pay stats are one hundred and fifty three targets,
eighty five receptions, eleven hundred and fifty yards, six touchdowns.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Which is going to be wonky all the way through.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Like on pay stats, we use those as jokes a
lot of the time. I actually don't think this is
really a show because if I were to ask you,
who's going to get thrown to the most we'd all
say team AC. Certainly in the early going, he had
nine targets in this game against Jacksonville. It didn't seem unsustainable.
I really do think one fifty is probably a good
(35:36):
mark to go with saying that's how many targets he's
going to finish up with in the seventeen game season.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
We'll see how he's on pace for thirty two touchdowns
and no picks. There you go. I saw that as well.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
That's true. That's where the jokes come in with the
on pace stats. I stay in corrected or too sche
to say the very least. One more segment to go,
it's the walkoff. Sports Radio, ninety two to seven WFNZ.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Are you challenging me to a walk off? Oh yeah,
that's a walk off challenge, my friend. It's a walk off.
It's a walk off.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
One more segments ago, West and Walker, Sports Radio, ninety
two to seven, wfn Z. Bagel, guy, already, we got
you taken care of.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
We'll get to it. He's saying, we need Wes's official
pick for Sunday. We will get to it in just
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Thursday Night Football. It's the game I think is going
to be the best this extended weekend. If you will,
eight fifteen kick. Green Bay is favored by three and
a half points in Lambeau Field. Commanders want to know,
Packers want to know who you're picking in this game.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I'm gonna take green Bay at home. I think green
Bay as a team that's definitely going to compete for
Super Bowl contention.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
This defense last year was top five in the league.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
They were among the league leaders in Saxon, and you
add Michael Parsons to that bunch. Man, I think Green
Bay is gonna be really good at balanced offensively too.
I like old Jade Daniels and the crew as you know,
but I think that they meet their demise tonight in
Lambeau Shropy.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
I look at you, I see the gambling portion of
who you are. I see the S and Shroppie stand
for a dollar side. What you think in betting on
this particular matchup, Yeah, I would. I would still take
green Bay to cover.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
I think just because they're at home, and if it
was the opposite, if it was, you know, in Washington
and the Commanders were three and a half point favorite,
I take them there too. I think this is heavily
dictated by Packers having the home field advantage. Lambo is
going to be rocking, and yeah, I think, you know,
Michael Parsons is going to have even more of an
impact on this game than he did last week.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Play plays more snaps, So I'll be taking Green Bay cover.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Jane Daniels doesn't make a lot of mistakes. I think
that's key once again, and the fact that if he
throws one interception that just might be too many for
Washington against this team. I think the Packers are loaded
the way they looked against the Lions, even with them
missing some coordinators and their offensive line not having Frank
rag Now anymore. I don't know if anybody expected the
Packers to be that dominant defensively against that respected of
(38:31):
a team that has had success the last couple of years.
I'm going to go with the Packers to win as well.
I think Green Bay covers also, and that's no disrespect
to Washington. I think Green Bay just might be that
for real college football tonight. It's your lum or, it's you.
I'm a manor. I should say NC State at wake Forest.
We already told you the spread. It is NC State
(38:52):
favored by seven and a half. Kickoff at seven thirty
on ESPN. We all chose, well, that's not true, and
I chose NC State. Shroppy was real disrespectful with it
when he said that he thinks they're going to destroy you. Guys,
gotta go run our test on him, saying he needs
to respect his elders. You picked wake Forest. What's the
(39:12):
key for wake Forest to be able to pull off
this up.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
And mind Claiborne to have a massive game, and he's
got to be able to open things up for the
passing attack. But coming off a ten carry one hundred
and ninety six yard performance one ninety three excuse me
last week. I think that you know he's in store
to come out here and have another big game. He
can hurt you in a myriad of ways, whether it's
special teams, receiving or rushing. So I expect a big
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game from Clayver Worne, what.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
About Robbie Ashford twenty seven in this last game against
Western Carolina one touchdown. That's the thing, man, if you're
NC State to me in my novice opinion, don't you
just stack the box and begged Robbie asher to beat you.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
This is the thing is that he did hit a
deep ball last week, and that's what he can do.
He might not be the quarterback that can kill you
with a thousand cuts as far as just sitting back
there and dissect, but he is a guy that if
they can get the run game going, that he can
play action and he can beat you over the top.
He throws a beautiful deep ball that is pretty accurate.
So I think that's what he can do. The problem
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would be more so for me if they decide to
sit in coverage and make him read the field. That's
where he struggles right there. So that's why I think
that run game it is very very important for them
to establish that tonight so they can define reads for
him so that when we do need him, they hit
a big play. He can do that and then we
already know, you know, if he gets loose in the
pocket and gets a step, he can make it happen there.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I brought up Catamounts football, which means smoke. Came into
the Chandler vault to studios and grabbed the microphone which
you got for us.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
They're smoking.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
Have you seen Western Carolina's defense? They're batter than bad. Okay,
of course Ash is going to ball out against that defense.
Good Ward, they blew a thirty five to seven lead
at home against Cardner Webb.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, so I don't know if painful.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
ANC State defense is very questionable, but it looks light
years better ahead of what Western Carolina's defense is right now.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
By the way, Free Tiger let him play against Elin
this weekend. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Free Tiger God is at twenty eleven. Im getting gracious
what you got over there, Strappie.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, I'm gonna take Obviously, I'm going with NC State.
If I'm giving a score prediction, I think I'm gonna
go with thirty to seventeen, seks.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Twenty three to twenty and a game that will have
me laying on the floor by the end of it
because I might have a heart attack.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
You gotta text Shoppy after it, no, say, okay, that's
speaks man. You'll see it and you'll see them Monday.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah that's true. What else you got?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
I was gonna say, yeah, Okay, if Wake Forest wins,
I will I will send you a congratulations. I will
send you a congratulations text and say sorry I was mistake.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
We've got a good atmosphere going.
Speaker 5 (41:46):
Man.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Look we got Sports Center there, we got Matt Matt
James getting the crowd.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Oh my god, I forgot about that. Yeah, coinball, I
mean yeah, man, we got the crowd going. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (41:56):
It's gonna be lit tonight. Wait yeah, wait, Oh, we're
gonna have a raucous crowd. We have Matt James leading us.
I don't know, man, I don't know. If it's gonna
be jumping. You're gonna come out there to see what's
gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
The He'll be nice. It's gonna be a beautiful night.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
If they score a touchdown earlier, they gonna leave immediately.
Speaker 3 (42:15):
NC State, no, it will take for them to you know,
but really to get down and dirty for the fans.
Speaker 1 (42:22):
I think NC State wins. I think they cover, but
I don't think it's not likely gonna be a fourteen
point game.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
It'll be a ten points a good game, man.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
I mean, we do pretty well against them at home.
If you go check the stats, they don't do too
hot when they come to Winston Salem.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Carolina, Carolina, Arizona prediction. What you got, you got? You're
gonna be a Panthers homer. Uh nope, because I think
the dance. Why you say we're gonna uh.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
You know the Panthers, man, right now, I just gotta
see some more scheming from that offense, because I just
don't believe the weapons are there. I believe Arizona wins
in a similar fashion to what they did against the
New Orleans something thinking somewhere along the lines of you know,
twenty three, twenty twenty six to ten, something along those lines.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Okay, yeah, they only beat the Saints by seven in
the first game. If your scenario happens, then it still
gets ugly next week.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
The way that we talk about the Panthers.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
You get beat by a couple of touchdowns or close
to it, then it's gonna be a pretty ugly conversation.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
The Panther up. You don't wait untill tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
I'm gonna wait till tomorrow, man, I don't have to
wait I don't have panther have to tell Friday.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Okay, I'll text you my pick.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Lastly, could we get the Charlotte Monument score that you're
going with Charlotte Monmouth.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Just tell me. I'm gonna go Charlotte.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
This defense is gonna have to come to the table though,
but I'm gonna give Charlotte to credit that they can
come out there and score some points in this one.
Give me Charlotte twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
To twenty Yeah, touchdown, awesome, Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
Six to three. I'll take it. I know I'll take it,
and I'll leave there. You go, West picking the forty
nine ers to win this weekend.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
All right, have a safe trip, man, A right, man,
I will, and you know I'll be checking in from
down in hopefully what we'll be stunning miam All right, we'll.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Figure out the schedule, but you'll be joining us tomorrow
at some point to talk about that game. A really
fun one, man, Miami, USF do the Bulls have something
for the Canes. West will be here tomorrow with us
to talk audio at least on the guest line. That'll
do it for us. Wes and Walker keep it right
here for the Kyle Bailey Show alongside Smoke Ludwig.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
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