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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Wes.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Like I thought there were to be like a lot
of emphasis on the oh wow, and he was just like,
it's called WU.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
One more hour to Goo on wesn Walker Sports Radio
ninety two seven WFNZ. We go over to the phone
lines now and welcome Bobby Mark's front office insider for
the NBA for ESPN. You can follow him on Twitter
at Bobby Marks forty two. And Bobby, we really appreciate
the time. I imagined that you're a little busier than
maybe you were twenty four hours ago with some of
(00:54):
the stuff happening in the association. At this point, I
wanted to talk about Estarlot Hornet's potential playoff run and
champions and all that stuff down here. We can still
get to it, don't you worry. I know you want
to talk about the Hornets, but we'll get to it
in a moment. I did have to ask you about
the surrounding storyline though, of the gambling ring Chauncey Phillips,
Terry Rogier. They've been arrested as part of a pair
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of wide ranging investigations related to illegal sports betting and
rigged poker games backed by the mafia. Oh my god,
I mean sounds a little movie ish here, Bobby. Here's
my question, because you know how the league operates, so well, sure,
what's happening with Adam Silver in this moment? It is
he does he know this is about to hit a
couple of hours before? Is he finding out real time
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as we find out? And I guess my next question
is what is his main job now that all of
this has come about?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, the Rosier stuff,
I don't think probably caught anybody off guard, just because
it had been circulating for a while at least over
the last year, and the league got investigated here and
you know, it was still part of a criminal investigation
with with the federal government and stuff. I think, you know,
there's the you know, certainly the Chauncy Billips angle, and
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then the the Damon Jones stuff. That's in the indictment
is I think it's probably the most damning of all
these all the stuff out there basically getting information from
players and you know, players you know, or trainers you know,
not knowing they were giving him that information that he
was going to basically be selling it to you know,
people to be basically place bets against against or for
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the Lakers. Here.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
I think that stuff is really really damning.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I think listen, I think we live at a day
and age where we've got a lot of states that
legalize gambling. We've got to and it's really not just
it's not betting on individual games, it's.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The prop bets.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
We we kind of knew this day would eventually probably come.
We saw a little bit of a John Day porter
where the prop bets basically have you know, are in
the forefront here. But you know, the commissioner was part
of the league, not the commissioner at the time when
we went through the referee situation back into two thousands.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Here.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Now it's kind of protecting the image. It's protecting the
image of the league. We had two great nights of
NBA basketball.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
We really did.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
We should be talking about Charlotte today and Wemby and
some of the things that happened over the last Okay, see,
but we're talking about this rightfully, so it is a
big news story here. But I think a lot of
it is Okay, is this isolated? Is there anything else
out there? What else should we know? And I think
when you read the indictments, there's a lot of stuff
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in there, man, I mean there really is, as far
as things that were you know, the rosier stuff, certainly
than the demon Jones and of course the Chauncey Billups
information Bobby.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Out, Bobby.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I was going to ask you, you know, are you
fearful of just how deep this could go, especially with
these guys being arrested and maybe what could get said
as far as them naming others.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I'm fearful that if we don't do anything regarding prop bet,
that this is not going to be an isolated situation.
And I say that, whether it be high school, whether
it be you know, college athletes out there, when a
player sits out a game and tells his friend and
that friend bets an Norman amount of money here or
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based on how many points you're going to have or rebounds,
I think if that was cleaned up. I don't think
we would have a you know, probably a situation like
we're having right now. So yeah, I mean, you know,
the indictments don't link anybody else. I mean there's people linked,
but not as not as a defendant in the case here,
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but I don't I don't think any Hopefully nothing else
comes of it here. But listen, this is going to
be in the forefront for a while just because of it.
It's a new situation. And as you said, you have
a head coach, hall of fame coach, you have a
current player, and you also have a former coach and
also player.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Bobby Mark joining us on Weston Walker Sports Radio ninety
two to seven WFNZ. We want to talk Hornets too, Bobby,
So let's go ahead and get to it. Because it
was an awesome game last night. We were excited around
here with all of the moves they made during the
off season. We felt like national pundits should have them
pretty high up on their League Pass rankings. I imagine
they go a little higher if you needed proof of concept.
(05:25):
What were your thoughts on the Hornets coming into this year, Bobby,
and how were those disproven or proven in last night's win?
Over the nets.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I think the biggest thing for me with Charlotte has
always been, you know, and we've talked about this a while,
it's just kind of availability, right, Like you knew they
had the talent with LaMelo and Brandon in Miles, and
I certainly liked what they did in the off season
getting concepts and in con and some of their other
moves they were able to make kind of trimming around
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the edges. But it was just a matter of just
basically kind of you know, getting everyone on the court
at the same time. I think you have to be
really happy what you saw last night. I know, you know,
Brooklyn is not projected to go pretty far, but who
cares that when counts in the standings. And I think
what you have to be happy about is what you
saw from your bench when you can get fifty plus points.
(06:14):
Your former pick last year, Sloon played really well, you know,
I mean just to shoot the ball from.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Three, and you basically got a really you know, you have.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
A little bit of a mix of everything. You've got
your two rookies in the starting lineup with with Ryan
and Con and as you said, your bench. I think
the beauty of the right of the start of the season.
Is the slates wiped clean? Right, whatever happened last year
or the year before. After that, you wipe it clean
and you kind of just used these games as building blocks.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Bobby, I wanted to ask you about Kanka Nipple and
he comes into your league and we've seen people getting
hyperbolic about him, saying that he could be a future
Olympian and some of those things.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
What did you take from his performance? Was he as
advertised to you?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Yeah, I mean we saw, you know, certainly what we
saw Duke last year, and then we saw a probably
a bigger body of work than most rookies in summer
league here about you know.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
The ability to shoot the ball.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
And then you know last night he you know, he
scores eleven points but goes three for four on three.
I think you have to be happy with what you
what you saw last night.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I think anytime you can get your first.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Round picks have an impact in a game. In Game one,
I think is a is a really good sign.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Did ran calt Brenner, in your opinion, look like a
guy that could be sustainable as a starting cent in
the NBA. I know it's just one game, but did
he show you some good things he did.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I mean ten and eleven against a player that's been
in the league and Nick Claxton. Definitely, I think I
think it's I think you're probably going to see probably.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
A little more you know, experimenting.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
You know, we didn't see Plumbley last night. The body played,
you know, twenty one minutes. Like there could be nights
where maybe both those guys flip flop as far as
from a starting standpoint or maybe not. But definitely, I
think you know, the ability to rebound, you get five
offensive rebounds.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
In a game, I think is, as I said, is
kind of a really good sign.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Bobby Marks joining us on Weston Walker Sports Rading ninety
two seven WFNZ one of the best at doing it
here talking contracts, salary, cap, ESPN Front Office inside or
follow him on Twitter at Bobby Mark's forty two I
would I did want to ask you because it felt
like it was a win for Jeff Peterson last night, Bobby,
with all the pieces coming together. I mean, you had
three draft picks look good, three out of the four
that you made. What is the reputation around Jeff Peterson
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within the league and even Charles Lee for what he's
been doing here in his young tenure with Charlotte.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Well, I mean I've known Jeff since he was in
Brooklyn and I am a huge fan of him. I
think the reputation, and Jeff has been pretty open about it,
is that.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
He's going to take, you know, a really.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Patient approach with this roster. You know, he said, he
said it multiple times. You don't want to skip steps,
and that's it's hard to do it.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Why I say it's hard to.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Do is that you have a fan base and certainly
you guys who follow this team that have been with
this for a long time, right where Jeff is coming in,
whether it be year two or year three, and this
is new to him here and there was no allegiance
to what happened in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen, and
he's going to see the vision his way, and I
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think he learned a lot of that and you know,
basically going what happened in Brooklyn when he when he
got there in you know, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen there.
So I think that's the approach. I do think it
would be interesting if that approach changes. If you have
you know, there's always that temptations when you probably over
I don't want to say overachieved, but probably have better
(09:44):
results than maybe you're a little bit ahead of your
rebuilding or your retooling of the roster that you know,
we're in February and we're saying, hey, Charlotte, six games
over five hundred, you know, does that you know he's
a little bit as far as wanting to go out
maybe do something here that's that would be the you know,
the really interesting case study there. But I do think
I think Jeff has been patient, rightfully, so he kind
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of knows what the identity of this group is and
what or what this identity of this group could be.
He's drafted, as we've seen, you know, so pretty well
so far. But we'll, you know, well, as I said,
we'll kind of let the season play out and see
where this team goes.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Bobby, I'm interested in what's going to happen with Brandon Miller,
obviously with this contract extension, so at the end of
this year, I mean, I wonder we can go with examples.
Is this going to be? I guess here's my question
for you, what are your biggest questions surrounding the Brandon
Miller contract, extension, eligibility and potential at the end of
this year.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, I mean, I mean on the core of course,
you know, as I said, availability right that that matters.
I think I would love to see a little bit
more of an optick in more.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Consistency from deep.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
So there's the on the core part of it.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Rookie extensions. I said this the.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Brian win Horse the other day. Rookie extensions are the
hearts things to negotiate unless you're a max player. And
I don't know if Brandon's a max player or not,
because sometimes, you know, I didn't know if Kate Cunningham
was a max player a couple of years ago because
he couldn't stay on the court. And rookie extensions are
based on a little bit of what you've done in
the past and what you feel, you know, the potential
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of that player is. We saw a lot of players
in this go round go for you know, twenty five
twenty six million dollars per year last sum last summer
was thirty million dollars per year. I don't know where
yet where Brandon will fit in there. Roster building in
this day and age is a lot different than it
was four or five years ago based on all these
different rules. But I think if he has a good
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year and he continually developed, there is going to be
a number for him, and I think the number is
going to be pretty significant.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Bobby, I was going to ask you too.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
We know that as the season goes on, coaches will
cut their rotations, and so I was going to say,
with all of the players that we saw play for
the one ess last night, do you believe in the
depth of this team? Do you think they will continue
to play as many players as they did?
Speaker 5 (12:02):
I do.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
I do, because you've got a mix of you know,
the two head of the three guys that you didn't
play with, you know, with Plumbley and comments in our veterans,
and I know Liam didn't play either, But I think
you can put those three players out there also, you know,
if needed. So yeah, I do think. I do think
the depth, you know, depth in this league matters. I
think you're kind of like we're almost in like an
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extended preseason for the next ten to fifteen games, because
I'm not sure what three or four games can tell
you about your roster or what you've done in practice here.
So I would expect you, know, you never know. I mean,
I would expect the depth to continue as far as
going ten deep here, but things could certainly change based
on maybe the game is a little bit tighter, or
maybe the the what you want to just shrink your
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rotations a bit.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Bobby Marks joining us on West and Walker. Final question, Bobby,
I'm asking all about contracts. I think the Collin Sexton
situation is going to be fascinating too, because I think
he's going to be a fan favorite. He's only on
eighteen million, but it's an expiring What do you think
ultimate happens at the end of this year. Do you
think that Colin Sexton's presence on the team will be
more valuable than cap space or do you think it's
going to be vice versa.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
I think his impact as far as what he can
do on the court and what he can do in
the locker room, We'll pay dividends here for a guy
that's been in the league a long time and as
a veteran here. It used to be, you know, it
used to be expiring contracts used to be like, you know,
the biggest trade asset, or we have to move off
that guy because we're afraid to lose them.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
I don't think you have to do that with with Colin,
and I think you kind of let the situation play out.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
You let us hear your play out.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
See where you are. Maybe at the trade deadline, if
you're far out of it and maybe you want to
go into differm direction.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
You can do something there. But I do think I
do think he's got a ton of value to this roster.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Right now, Bobby Marx, I don't think there's anybody better
doing it, talking about the inner workings of the NBA,
the money, all of it. Follow him on Twitter at
Bobby Marks forty two. He is the ESPN Front office insider. Bobby,
thank you so much for the time, man. We appreciate it,
appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Absolutely. We'll put that interview up on our website WFNZ
dot com. Also search WESN Walker and then there you'
will be able to find the Bobby Marks interviews anywhere
you get your podcast. We can talk about it a
little bit later. I also think, yeah, it's super fascinating.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I love the Hornets. I love that they got the
win last night. I think they're going to be really fun.
All of that stuff at the end of this year.
I mean, there are some really big time questions that
you have surrounding the players with the rookie extension. For Brandon,
is he going to get all of the money and
there's no wiggle room for negotiation or you're going to
risk frustrating him and we don't want to do that.
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Colin Sexton automatically provides a big impact cap space or
presence on the team. What's more valuable? I mean, these
are building block type of decisions that you're making to
see if you can continue this positive trajectory. And I
like that we got some information there from Bobby on
what he thinks maybe the Hornets might value. But that stuff,
we can enjoy the journey because we're not even close.
(14:57):
We got eighty two games to go, man, and we
got a lot more to go before free agency. But
I think a lot of interesting stuff is on the
horizon for this Hornets team. Live Wire coming up next
Wes and Walker a couple more segments to go on
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, man, I know that he feels like he's serious
in his breakdowns at the Hornets. I think that he
likes what they're bringing, and I think he believes and
what they can be.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Yeah, I'm I just got a little ahead of myself
with the what happens at the end of the season stuff.
I shouldn't think so far ahead, But when you have
that guy on, you ask contract questions. In my opinion,
like that's I wanted to get some contract questions in there.
And the Colin section one, which we have Smoke in
the studio right now. Colin is to Smoke what Musa
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is to me, and Smoke is ready to give him
all of the money possible, and if that means trading
everybody away to keep him, then you just go ahead
and do that and give him the super Max. He
was real good last night in all serious tiny to
find me an underdog hornet that I like. Like that
because you know I'm a star guy, so yellows my guy.
I mean I don't, Yeah, I don't. I gotta find
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me an underdog tray Man.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
He was cool with dust and he's a good player.
I'm gonna go Cawk Brenner.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
That's gonna be my guy because I was a fan
of him in the in the pre Jaft process.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
I also like cal Brenner. Yeah, because I think that
he looks like Sheldon Cooper, which I've said that before.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Sure, maybe you like him because people have called him
walk Brenner before, and he looks a little like me. Maybe,
but because but because any tall white guy looks like me,
that's say that.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But not Liam McNeely sixty percent punky Walker. Like each
white guy's a different version of Walker. That's what we'll say.
That's why I said Liam is a punky version Liam.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Liam, by the way, is like translucent. I mean, he
is like one of the the one of the whiter
guys I've ever seen nothing wrong. I am too.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I'm saying you're saying he's not outside.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Doesn't see the outside a lot, because you know why
he's grinding in the gym.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Oh, I thought he was making Lego buildings. That's why
I thought you were gonna he's working in the gym
on his game. Is there anything let's ask the fandal
text line this. What is something I guess borderline childish
that you still do to this day watch cartoons, build Legos,
video games is going to be a pretty big answer.
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But depending on how you view it. Seven oh four
five seven ninety six ten, what is your Liam McNeely
Lego's equivalent? Do you have something west anything that comes
to mind?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Umm, because I can't think. Probably watch superhero movies.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Yeah, I mean I dabble in cartoons, an see, I
don't consider superhero movies childish.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
They're very much made for adults or something that you
family as a child feels like a childish.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, it feels like a lot of superhero movies are
family friendly. They're going to keep it for the most part.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
PG.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
They're not going above PG thirteen a whole lot, all right,
And I'll go with that, Okaye.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
No, no, no, I would go with that because I
would try to think that's probably the biggest thing that
I do, or sometimes I'd like to go to the
arcades deal.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Arcade is a good answer. Yeah, arcade is a great
answer to be honest with. You don't want to get
on golden Tea on.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
The weekend, I like to Uh, I like to drink
chocolate milk for breakfast. That's a great I love it.
That's a great one. I love it.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I like that answer a lot. That's very childish. Chocolate
milk is not something that you're ordering, ordering out in
public and saying yeah and being taken seriously.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, I'll take a glass of child I'll do it
for breakfast sometimes. Now it depends on how how attractive
the waitresses. If she's, you know, too attractive, I'll be like,
I'll take a Yeah, I'll take what a real man?
Drakes none of this nest quick, get out of my face.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Rabbit Delvis the Rock says, watching cartoons, that's me all day. Well,
Pack James says, I mean, I guess it would depend
on or you're talking about Collin section a little bit.
Ar says legos are straight fire. Cement mixer says hot
wheels not anymore, but I guess he held on to
hot wheels for quite some time. I like this one
from the witcher make paper planes. I could get behind that. Yes,
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I could too. I like seeing a paper plane fly
a really long distance. I'm gonna watch that video anytime.
It's on my Twitter timeline when somebody makes one out
of the brochure or the pamphlet and then they throw
it in the stadium and then it travels forever in
a day. I'll watch that video of ten times in
a row, no doubt about it. I like that one.
TC says West doesn't like cartoons, it's too cartoony. Yeah, SpongeBob.
(21:54):
SpongeBob is a little bit too cartoony for you. I'm
with you on that one. Okay, we can read You've
had a couple of comments. You are not with this conversation.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, I just I just don't feel like explaining. So
I'm like, I just let that one slide. That's it.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Okay, it's only radio. Yeah, I just let that slide.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
All right? You ready for the live wire? Yes, all right,
let's do it. Let's place it down. What you got
for us.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Live?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Why?
Speaker 3 (22:24):
I connect a all right, and let's go to the
head coach of the Carolina Panthers, because he was asked
an interesting question yesterday this involving the uh play that
Bryce Young got hurt on? Was it a tripping penalty
that went uncalled?
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Live?
Speaker 6 (22:40):
It didn't look like it as you as you replayed
and replayed. He put his foot out there to get
him down. That could constitute as a foul, But I
just thought live, like you know, it looked like Bryce
was just trying to get away and they kind of
tripped up on each other. So I didn't really see
any malice that way. Yeah, That's that's kind of how
I felt about it.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Been tripping would have been a call, right.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I think?
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I think so.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
All right, So I have seen this from some Panther
fans here is. The week has gone along, they've been
talking about this a little bit more. And I thought
it a little bit on Sunday when I first saw it.
Do you guys think it was a dirty play that
he got hurt on? No, I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I mean, when I looked at it, I didn't see
anything in there that I thought could even be deemed
that way. But I guess I'll have to look at it,
and you should. You should, Okay, So you felt like
it was it was tripping?
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Okay? Okay? All right, So well, he wasn't gonna get
him stuck in it was tripping.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It depends on if you think that he was doing
it too hurt Bryce Young, or if you just react
in real time you can't get a hand on him
and so you stick your foot out there to try
to bring him down. I'm not saying that it's a
crazy dirty play. What I'm saying is there should have
been a flag.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
Now.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
To be fair, I didn't see it real time. I
guess I probably looked away from the instant replay when
it was focusing on a close up there because I
didn't see it real time like you did, Flounder. But
to me, when you look at replays later on, it's
pretty simple.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Talking about when he took his hand and slapped the
back of his heel. That's what you're talking about, right,
got him with injury.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
It looks like it's his foot injury.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Steps on Bryce's right foot and that's what leads to
the injury.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
We can look at the injury a little bit more.
That's what it looked like to me. So I thought
a penalty. Okay, yeah, yeah, I see it. No, like
I said, even in real time, No, I didn't think that.
I think that it was just kind of a freakish
thing to where when he was running his stride his
foot came down on top of Bryce's foot. Yeah, but
you're a dirty player sometimes.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
What I was going to add on.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
To that, on to that is if he did, you know,
doing kind of malicious hey, you know it is.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
What it is.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, sure I would have flagged.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, but I really didn't think though looking at it,
I just felt like his stride because if you look
at it, just the way Bryce's leg comes back as
his leg is extending, there's no way he could have
executed that so perfectly if it was going to be
done maliciously, and my humbling.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well maliciously right for me.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
I don't think he should be fined all this exorbitant
amount of money. I don't think he should be suspended.
I don't think that this is vontees perfect out here
trying to hurt players on purpose. I think what happened
is there was a reaction he couldn't get to him.
I don't think that's a natural foot movement. I think
what he tried to do was put his foot out
there for Bryce to trip over and or step on
and that's how Bryce got hurt. I don't think the
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guy meant to injure Bryce. I just think he meant
to trip him. And to be fair to the officials,
I didn't see it real time either, but I think
going back and looking at it, I think there's clearly
intent to try to bring him down. But I don't
know how malicious it was yet.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
In flashbacks, Kyle Philipowski, Oh, here we go. No, we
had a knockdown draft on the morning show about that.
Oh you did? Oh it was, Oh it was very contentious.
Oh yes, because I thought he stuck his foot out
and tripped the student. You and bone Why would you
do it? See? Yeah, it still hurts to this day.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
How many times do you think Smoke comes in here
and works and then flips us the bird every now
and then, like it's it's the second bird I've seen him.
Sh Yeah, I don't know he's telling us. I don't
think he's telling us were number one.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
All right, Smoking, you chill out.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Flipping me flipping?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
All right? What you got over there for?
Speaker 3 (26:28):
All right, Let's move on to brad Izach because he
was talking today about preparing for the possibility that Bryce
Young could be out there on Sunday.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
We're pushing Bryce every day. He's actually pushed himself, so he's, uh,
he's right there alongside of us, you know, when we're
in team periods and all that he's doing the rehab
he needs to do. We're making sure that we're we're
separating those things out so he's not missing the football
the game plan piece. But yeah, absolutely, anytime you deal
with an injury, you want to make sure that the guy, uh,
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the potential replacement is getting the physical reps needed, you know,
to hit the ground running when he's ready to go.
So I think in a given week two, when Bryce
is the starter and go back to last week and
then Andy gets thrust into the game, his engagement with
the material all week last week allows him to come
into the game and make some crucial plays down the
stretch to you know, solidify that win for us. So
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I don't think there's a change in their mentality other
than they have different problems, different not problems, different circumstances
that they got to kind of handle, all right.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So this is the perfect moment to update you on
where everything is with Bryce Young because they are out
there at practice today. Joe Person, I believe, was the
first person to tweet about it. No pun intended there
by the way he said that Bryce, the team as
a whole is in pads today. Bryce is not, So
the belief is that he's working on the side again
(27:50):
with this new information, Where do you guys stand on
Bryce's status for the weekend? Does it seem more and
more like we're going to be seeing Andy out there?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, Like I said, I feel like that is with
It'll be some gamesmanship at play to have the Bills
have to prepare for.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Both guys are just the thought of Bryce.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Young playing occupying a little bit of their thoughts, maybe
a little bit of their game plan. Because coaches, they
know or you know, how they're wired. So if I
tell you that, hey, yeah, he might play, a coach
is never gonna win his team to not be prepared.
So he's going to say in case Bryce Young plays, then.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Da da da da da da da.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
So it's going to take away from some of their preparation.
And so I think that's what's at play here because
I just can't see uh an NFL player, especially coming
back after a week from a high ankle spring.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
You know, what I did have to laugh at, even
though I understood where he was coming from, Aaron Glenn
saying he didn't want to tell us who was going
to start at QB because he didn't want to give
the other team a competitive advantage. Like, I don't think
you're going to give anybody a competitive advantage or field. Okay, coach,
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don't give up all the secrets.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
How are we ever going to beat the Jets the.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Fact that they don't have any wins. Yeah, I was
willing to believe it for I think probably a few
seconds that Bryce Young might suit up, but I had
been operating pretty much the same lines as you have
Wes in terms of him not being able to play.
I don't think. Yeah, I think they drug it out
a little bit longer. They're still doing it. But gamesmanship
is always going to be in question with this sort
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of thing. So I do think Andy Dalton's going to play.
I think we're starting to see a little more evidence
of that. And really every second, every minute, every day
that goes by the likelihood that Bryce ends up playing,
it goes. It goes down in terms of him being
on the sideline not getting first team reps. So yeah,
I don't think it's going to happen for Bryce as
much as I would like it to. I would also
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rather have him fully healthy for the games beyond the
Buffalo Bills matchup. What else you got flound all?
Speaker 8 (29:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Well, you know what, after a huge win last night
for the Hornets, we got to hear from Chuck Lee, Right,
what did he like from the game? Yeah, that was
a nomber one. Coming in hot.
Speaker 8 (29:59):
Crowd was lit as I was expected. It was fun
to be back in the spectrum, and it was also
just good to have another opportunity to play a game
and try to build some better habits on both sides
of the ball. I think defensively, we did a lot
of really good things and things that will continue to
try to emphasize.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
And then there's some areas where we can get better.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
You know, you have a thirty seven point third quarter
and in the second quarter you feel like you put
them in the bonus kind of early. So as good
as I thought we were, we can also, again, like
I said, get better. And then offensively, I loved the
pace that we were able to pretty much sustain, which
was good. The ball movement was great. I think it
was thirty three assists on like forty eight mad field goals,
which always means that there's a the ball's moving a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
And I thought, actually, in the first half.
Speaker 8 (30:44):
What I think, we have five turnovers, so we were
taking care of the ball and passing the ball.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
And then the.
Speaker 8 (30:48):
Second second half they did a good job of I think,
turning us over forcing some turnovers. So we got to
continue to just be strong with the ball and value
every possession from the beginning of the game to the
end of the game.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
All right, So a strong perform from the Hornets. You
guys have been talking about it all day, But what
is the thing that surprised you the most about their
performance last night? What we saw from that?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh man, that's a that's a that's a good question
with the way the team has made up. So I
won't say I was completely surprised by the sisce I
just go by a three point percentage of shooting over
forty five percent, and even still I wasn't super surprised
by that. But I do like the fact that they
shot the ball at such a high clip from three
last night.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Brandon Miller drives were nice. That's something we haven't seen
a whole lot of and the fact that he did
it in game one off of a wrist injury that
kept him out from playing basketball for a long time. Man,
was it January the last game that he played early January?
For him to come out and be aggressive, to not
show any signs of wear and tear on that wrist,
which we saw that from LaMelo for the last five years.
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He keeps playing with that rist. He didn't last night,
but we would see it even last year. I remember
had a cleanup procedure, I believe. So that's what I
was worried about with Brandon. How long were we going
to have to wait before he really started to cook?
And I was willing to give him all the grace,
like I was not about to get on him for
not hitting a high percentage of his three point shots,
which he didn't last night. He was two of nine.
(32:12):
But I thought he really absorbed contact well. I thought
that he gave us a little a couple of chicken wings, which, yeah,
don't get called for a foul. I think the officials
could have gotten him a couple times. But it does
show that you're physical, you're aggressive, you're not shying away
from contact, and I think you had a well balanced
shot profile last night, the balance right out of the
gate from that injury you suffered last year. I think
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that would be the most surprising thing I saw, and
it was a pleasant surprise.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
All right. Last one, let's go to Eli Drinkowitz, the
head coach of the Missouri Tigers. He was talking about
being a game day site for the game against Vandy
this weekend.
Speaker 9 (32:47):
College game Day's coming to him?
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Is your game?
Speaker 9 (32:49):
For the first time in eleven years, they've only covered
miszouos six young Willie p Right.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I'm curious.
Speaker 9 (32:53):
Does that amplify the stage itself at all? Or does
that change anything in preparation or make the game even bigger?
Speaker 10 (33:00):
Is it in First Bank Stadium?
Speaker 9 (33:03):
I'm not sure where it is.
Speaker 10 (33:04):
C does in fact anything? Then for us, we're the
road team, so we'll show up, we'll go to the
visitors locker room, we'll walk out on the field and
play the game. I don't whatever else they got for
their fans there is up to them, but it doesn't
affect us. I don't even think they want to talk
to us.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
By college game Day's coming to Okay, I don't know
why that bard was recorded over there at the end.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
But the reason that I played this clip is it
had nothing to do with his response there. It's more
about the fact of where game Day has gone recently.
Guy that's sitting right in front of me right here,
smoke Ludwig. He's taking issue with some of the spots
that college game Day has gone to this year. Do
you guys really think it's a big deal or it
doesn't really bother you where game Day has been going
(33:46):
to all these SEC sites. I remember when a.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Lot of ACC people had issue with them not going
to Miami and Florida State because they went to what
was it, Alabama I think was playing a big game
that day or it was some huge SEC game.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Possibly, yeah, if they chose to go to.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But no, not really, I don't trip off of it,
especially when they go to some of the places that
they don't normally go to. Them being there for Vanderbilt Missouri, like,
I'm cool with that. Like I like them hitting up
and some of these schools getting some game they love
that they normally would not, because again, you.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Know, it's variety is the spice of life.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
So if they're always going to Alabama and Ohio State
and all those places, then it would get pretty old
and stale. So for them to go places expose us
to new traditions and new things about these schools.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
I'm here for that.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah. I think part of college football that makes it
to Charlotte, come to Charlotte. Yeah, I guess what was.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
It maybe a few years down the line.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, don't don't come to Charlotte this year. To be
honest with you, that made me sad. I hope they
come to Charlotte. I mean, I guess they kind of did.
It wasn't college a game day, but we did have
Matt Barry. You got half of Yeah, you got half half.
We did to this, We did too what we had
a couple of halves that makes it a whole right
because we got it last year with bis pogie, we
got it this year. So okay, you know what, Thank
you guys, thank you ESPN for representing. But no, I
(35:00):
like variety myself. I think what make college football and
really college sports great is just one how many schools
that you have participating in athletics. And also I think
you get to see these campuses really get jazz for
game day being at your school, and that's when you
see all of these great turnouts. It's when hey, they
haven't been to our school since black and then so
(35:22):
you get really jazz to go over there, and then
now the crowd is raucous, And that's exactly the kind
of environment for instance, going to app State, right, I
know Smoke doesn't agree with that, but going to Abstaate
they really showed up for that man. And so I
think that as long as you're mixing it up, as
long as you're going to schools that you know are
going to deliver via the environment, because environment is everything
(35:43):
when it comes to college football, then I'm cool with it.
I haven't had as much of a problem with some
of the destinations and the sites.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I was going to lastly add when you do
go to these places that haven't had it in a
long time, I had it. Ever, you know, it's a
guarantee that they're going to deliver on rolling out the
red carpet and giving the viewers and the powers that
be the right experience.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, it still feels about the game and the atmosphere
more so than it even feels about the panel. Even
with I think it's such a great marriage of the
panel being iconic and also the atmosphere still being the
thing that you tune in to see for the most part.
And that's why College Game Day has worked for so long. Man,
it's worked for so long. They do a good job.
(36:24):
Coming up next, it's the walk Off Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 5 (36:33):
Job.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Are you challenge for me to a walk off?
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, that's a walk off challenge, my friend, it's.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
A walk off.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
The walk Off.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
We had a very interesting conversation right before we hopped
on the mic. As of fifteen seconds ago, I found
out something about Wes that I question. I don't even
know how to respond to some of the stuff that
he mentioned. But let's tell you what's on tap. Then
let's get into some of the activities you still enjoy
that you could deem childish, but you don't care because
you are a grown adult and you get to make
(37:13):
your own decisions. But again, first we'll tell you what's
on tap. It's presented by Twin Peaks. Twin Peaks has
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(37:33):
on tap? The Pacers and the Thunder a rematch of
the NBA Finals, Pacers hosting the Thunder at seven point
thirty on ESPN. Thunder won their first game to kick
off the season. Indiana has not played yet, one of
the few teams one of the I guess two teams
that haven't played yet. Denver is the nightcap. They'll play
Golden State. The Warriors are hosting the Nuggets again ten
(37:54):
o'clock on ESPN. I have a hard time picking OKAC
maybe Indiana based off of what I think is going
to be a raucous Indiana crowd the first game of
the season.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
They'll feed into them a lot.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
You know, I could see it. I could see it.
I'll say this, I got to pull up the spread
because I might be coverballing for the old Paces. Oh
seven and a half point spread, I'll do that. Give
me the Pacers cover balling. But eventually they lose a
tough one at home.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
MM coming off NBA Finals audio emotions of that I'm
gonna take the Paces even though they won't have Halle.
I think that that crowd and the emotions of the
finals last year, I think that all hit okay, see
in the face and Indy will win.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
Screw the Pacers. Thunder Cover.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Still still bitter for sure, and I understand it. Golden
State hosting the Nuggets. Like I said, Golden State, a
one and a half point favorite, have a chance to
go to a zero against some high profile teams. Their
first win was against the Lakers. Again, this is the
nightcap one. Are you gonna stay up for the second
half of this game? No, not for the second first half.
You'll get to watch a boy, Steph Curry. Do you
(39:02):
think your boy Steph Curry gets the dub?
Speaker 1 (39:04):
You know, I'm never gonna bet against Steph baby Queen
City Icon, even though he's going up against the Nuggets.
But the Nuggets are gonna be an interesting team this year.
I feel like they're in a little bit of transition.
So yeah, but I'm still gonna take the transition in
a bad way or good way. I feel like, you know,
it's one of those deals where they could I'm not
I don't think ever with Yo Kicch in some of
(39:24):
the town they have that they'll be bad. But it's like,
are they still that championship favorite that they've been?
Speaker 2 (39:33):
They might make the NBA Finals. In Walker's world, I
think they're awesome. Yeah, I think they're that good. So
we'll see what happens with them. But I've got I've
got Denver tonight. Who are you gonna go with?
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Flamm Oh yeah, I'll go with the Nuggets as well.
I don't see that Denver State slows.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
Down gold Golden State. Golden State a one and a
half point favorite at home, So there you.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Go, Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
I will read some of the text messages that people
had coming in about some childish things they still enjoy doing.
Had a lot of really good answers. Nine to zero
has a good one, I think would apply a lot
to a lot of people collect baseball cards, card collecting.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I still do get a little excited when I see
cars man, especially, you know, you go on some of
the little malls and you see the vendors out there
that have them. I still enjoy saying that, and I
will stop and look. Uh.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
Tim said he just finished off a box of fruity Pebbles.
I had fruity Pebbles for the first time in years.
The other day all the way, Yeah, I tremendous. Really
brought me back. Chris from Concord said all of the
above for legos old school bay blades. You remember bay blades.
You would pull out the I forget what it is.
It was basically a top, but it was like a
(40:42):
top that was this robot style top that you would
put in this bowl and they would fight one another.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Even heard of it.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, look up bay blades. They're pretty sweet. Indy five
thousand says real men drink you who? I'm a real man.
That a real man? Give me that you who? Seven
ozh four says bubbles.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
Oh, I'm not gonna round somebody.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
If somebody has some bubbles around, I will partake.
Speaker 5 (41:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
But are you going to the store to buy me? No?
Speaker 1 (41:08):
No, no, be near me? And yeah, you know some kids
are doing it. I'm gonna grab it and let me
get it.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
I think that's being a good uncle father and seeing
how big I can make it. I got questions about bubbles,
but I also have questions about what you said you
enjoy Before we hopped on the microphone, I said, I'm like,
are you gonna tell them you said you enjoy sneezing.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Yes, I think I've said this before on the show.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I don't remember it, but yeah, I think I think
sneezing is relieving. M But you said there was somebody
that sneezed three times in a row, yeah, triple sneeze,
and I said, I'm jealous. Yeah, I've never been jealous
of somebody sneezing before. Is there any way that you
can put words to this and explain yourself.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
I mean, you know, like I said, I enjoy it.
I like the feeling of sneezing, like it's just me.
So you know, when I I don't like all the
symptoms that come into cold sometimes or sometimes my allergy attacks.
But like I said, when I do sneeze, especially like
if I'm at home, I don't have anywhere to be now. Obviously,
if I'm out and about and trying to do stuff,
then I don't want to be doing that. But if
I'm at home and I'm just chilling and I sneeze,
(42:12):
I enjoy it. I think it's relieving to me, right
like it is. I need to sneeze, and then I sneeze.
That's when it feels good. It's when I feel the
sneeze coming, I'm like, oh, hell yeah, let's.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
Go that's the that's the disconnect.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Oh yeah, yeah, let's go about to sneeze.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Sometimes I provoke it.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Do you just get a feather and you can do that, like.
Speaker 1 (42:38):
You just twist the tissue at the end of it
and then just tick on your nose a little bit.
If I need the season, it won't come out, then Yeah.
Sometimes I twist the end of the and then I'll
just do that. Do you Yeah? Do you ever not
have to sneeze at all and decide? No, man, I'm
not sneeze. Ye, No, I don't do that. That would
be provoke.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
When I need to and it doesn't happen, I will
say I'm not trying to be I'm not trying to
act like this is totally out of space for me,
because I do feel good when I do sneeze. It's
the I'm jealous. It's the sometimes I'll force it. It's
the I thought you were chilling at your leisure, you
know what, Hey, Bryce, pass me that tissue. I want
to sneeze. I got some time to kill you. Go
(43:19):
ahead and sneeze a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Yeah, I didn't know if you I make stupid noises
and stuff too, just the clown.
Speaker 2 (43:24):
English Paul. Okay, now I can see that. Yeah, that's fun.
English Paul says, sneezing equals cathartic. Uh, yeah, we have
other people. The sun makes me sneeze, no doubt about it.
It does. So I'm with you there. If I go
outside on a bright day, I'm sneezing for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
When my son was a baby, he used to think, well,
my son's a baby.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
He used to think people sneezing was her less. He
still does.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But I remember when he was little and we'd be
out and somebody would sneeze hard. He would just bust
out giggling, and then I'll be laughing too.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
I don't believe Dave from Charlotte on the text line.
He's saying sneezing is like one eighth of a really
good feeling. But I'm not sure about that. I'm not
gonna use the word stop stop it. Yeah, I'm okay,
all right, we move on, crazy stop come on, questions.
There's no way I have questions. No wonder West likes
it so much. I'll say that. That'll do it for
Wes and Walker. Keep it right here for The Kyle
(44:14):
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