August 27, 2025 • 44 mins
In the final hour of the show, the guys discuss the latest additions that the Panthers have made to the active roster and practice squad, react to some of the best audio in sports on the Live Wire and walk it off with 'What's on Tap' presented by Twin Peaks.
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You're listening to Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z,
and there is a lot of news coming in via
the NFL as it.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Relates to the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
If you're just joining us and you live under a rock, well,
well we're here to inform you that Adam thlen has
been traded to the Minnesota Vikings, and in exchange, the
Panthers are getting a fourth round pick. Really, they're profiting
a fourth rounder. The exact details are that Minnesota receives
Adam Thielen, a conditional seventh round pick and a fifth
round pick in twenty twenty six while the Panthers basically
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swap fifth rounders with Minnesota. They're getting a twenty twenty
six fifth rounder from the Vikings, but they're getting a
twenty twenty seven fourth rounder again. To put it simply,
the Panthers profit a fourth round pick by sending Adam
Thlen back home to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Fandual text line seven oh four five seven oh ninety six'.
Ten not only are people writing in about Their Adam thlen,
takes people excited About Hendon hooker being a quarterback In.
Carolina panthers are signing the Former tennessee standout after the
loan year With Josh heipel just having him soar with
an awesome win Against. Alabama The Hendon Hooker Bryce young,
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game by the, way fun game between those two guys
When tennessee ended up getting that. Victory but now both
of those guys are playing for the same. Team hooker
going to be on the practice squad as that third STRING. Qb,
ULTIMATELY i like it BECAUSE i Like Hendon. Hooker pre,
DRAFT i thought he was about a second or third round.
Pick detroit ends up using the third round selection on.
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Him gets beat this year in the offseason By Kyle.
ALLEN i swear everybody is just one degree of separation
from one. Another Kyle allen wins the backup job In.
Detroit detroit Drops Hendon. Hooker Amon Ross Saint brown said
it was a. Surprise didn't Expect Hendon hooker to be,
dropped but we love. Him he's got a lot of.
TALENT i hope he blows up. Somewhere probably not going
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to blow up. Here Bryce, Young we're hoping he blows
up as the starter In. Carolina BUT i do like
Having hooker as the third stringer way more THAN i
would like to have Had Jack plumber back and Or Bryce.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Perkins.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
YEAH i mean at this point and when we hear
some of the, guys especially that will, start and especially
in the southeastern part of the, world you, know you
kind of get caught up in it and you think
about what they did when they were at their previous.
Spots and we talked about it this morning in the
fishboat With kyle, saying how you know he was With
Ben johnson and wasn't able to really develop into that
silid backup That i'm Sure detroit wanted him to. Be
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so at this Point my expectations are just kind of.
INDIFFERENT i think he's going to come in here and
be a guy that's going to be a practice squad,
player and that's about.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It BUT i, mean the fans getting.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Excited they're thinking about the deep balls At, tennessee and
they're thinking about the way that he played that last year.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There that was ancient.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
History my, man he's in THE nfl now and he's
become just another backup, quarterback and to, me that's all
he's going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Here but he's our backup. Quarterback that's is, true and
we can embrace. Them and you, know people love themselves
a backup. Quarterback they're also bringing in running BACK Dj.
Dallas he was a fourth round pick By seattle all
the way back in twenty. Twenty we know ABOUT Dj
dallas too in acc, country having played For miami fun
running back that did get a few opportunities up with The,
Seahawks AND i think some of the waiver claims coming
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in some of the players that they're signing on the
practice squad not a, surprise but they have familiarity with
some people on the coaching. Staff SO Dj dallas having
been With seattle in twenty, twenty he's, available So Dave,
canalis having That seattle, experience he goes after one of
those running backs And Jero averro having experience With mathis
who was claimed off of. Waivers Tomari, mathis defensive back
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released By. Denver Tomari mathis had his best year with
The Jaro Rivero winnavero was a defensive coordinator with The,
broncos and so they're going back to the. Familiarity, well
and they're signing a couple of those. GUYS i will
Say mathis is somebody THAT nfl accounts THAT i trust
were pointing to and, saying, hey good player. Here denver
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has a deep defensive back room Has they're pretty deep at,
cornerback of, course starting With Patrick. Certan so they drop
somebody that probably would be making a lot of other
teams as a depth.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Piece carolina picks them.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Up don't know what it means For Corey thornton and,
others if they're just outright safe or. Not but was
a valued player and The panthers use a waiverclaim on
him with the eighth priority.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Spot, yeah AND i mean if he comes in here
makes an, impact then that Means denver must have one
hell of a secondary in store for the rest of THE.
Nfl but regardless of the, fact we see waiver pickups
all the time to end up paying dividends for, Teams
so this sounds like it's got a lot of, promise
more so than the run of the meal pickups that you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
See, yeah did not play a lot of snaps last
year in, coverage had forty eight coverage snaps just last
season he played. Ten that's the most that he played
in a. Game he did that three separate. Times he
did play ten coverage snaps Against carolina when they. Played
had a sixty three point two coverage grade last. Year
back in twenty twenty, two when he played almost five
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hundred coverage, snaps he had a sixty five point three coverage. Grade,
fine like, decent maybe even above, average depending on how
you view out in the. Corner and the other thing
that we always have to, consider especially with this. Regime
more than, Most Dan morgan has done a nice job
of finding these guys that are cast aside and then
turning him and turning them into impact. Players you Have
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jalen Kocher nuff. Said, there then you also Have Mike,
jackson who they Traded Michael barrett For Mike jackson turns
his opportunity into a nice contract and a starting job
on the, outside opposite of. J. C. Horn don't know
if that's going to happen With, mathis But mathis PROBABLY
i would think the highest potential for providing some type
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of impact With carolina this.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Year, yeah and so hopefully it'll be a good pickup for,
him all.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Right Joe person also writing in that they picked up
a wide receiver off of waivers as, well In Dalveyon.
Campbell excuse, me De Levin dalavon. ANYWAYS i don't know
how you pronounce, it But Dalivon campbell from The. Chargers
he's six'. Four man That's What dan, morgan wants more big. Wide, receivers,
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receivers man that's the name of the game. For, him
uh let's get to something a little, MORE interesting i
guess than waiver. Wire Pickups Because hunter renfro still not on.
The Team hunter renfro. Got cut he was one of
the more surprise cuts in all OF. The nfl he's
the cover of that article On The Athletic Most surprising
cuts IN. The nfl It Was hunter renfro's picture front.
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And center so They keep Bryce, and tremaine They Keep,
david moore They Trade, adam thielen and yet we still
Don't Have. Hunter, renfro now nobody could, claim him claim
him off waivers because he's, a veteran so he's free
to sign With the panthers. Right now but They have
tremaine and they just picked up a.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Wide.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Receiver wes do You Think hunter renfro comes back and
is an eventual member Of.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The panthers it doesn't sound like it to me at
this point when you go out and sign another receiver
like they. JUST did, i mean if they Really Wanted
hunter renfro, THAT bad i think he'd already be back in.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
The, building no oh.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
MAYBE not i MEAN it's i, don't, know negotiations fielding
offers from. Other teams do You Want hunter? Renfro, BACK
yeah i think it would be nice to be able to.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Have him cannot just, to, say oh, you know he's
a guy that's Gonna Replace adam thielen and what, he
did or he's a, you know nice depth piece that
Is Like. ADAM thielen i just Think That hunter renfroad
showed some nice Things and i'd like to see him get.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Another shot We have martinsville clock it's saying That the
chargers fans are not Happy. Losing campbell he actually put
Up a chargers post, THAT said i see several fragile
wide receivers on a roster currently that would not be
a Problem.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
With campbell i'm done venting. About this bleeping sucks.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Losing, talent yeah eighteen yards, a catch so a, deep
THREAT which i think you NEED if exxl is not
going to step up in, that category AND t mac
is also supposed to provide you some impact that.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's so kind of similar in, that vein and That's
What damn. Morgan likes we talked about what the receivers,
with size, BUT yeah i mean he was putting up
some gaudy numbers when you talk yards.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Per catch so a lot of people still a little
back and forth On Trading adam Thiel and fandal text
line seven oh four five seven oh ninety.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Six ten We have cowherd saying effing hate.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This trade flan was our most, reliable receiver our vet
presence Automatic, for bryce maybe even on, third downs and
all we get our. Trash picks the hit rates on.
Fourth rounders it's one in five you brought up the
twenty percent chance that you just. Looked up so that's
how most people, are feeling and. Not most it's fifty.
To fifty some people feel The way. Cowhert does a
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lot of people are cool With Trading adam thielen rather
than risk losing him. FOR nothing i just think It
means carolina is high on their Young, receiving Corps which i'm.
Positive About if i'm going off of what they're telling
us without, TELLING us i think that they're cool with
the three wide receivers they have one, through three and
then the vet Presence And david moore and Maybe Even
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jimmy horn gives, you something especially in, special teams but
especially that one. Through Three Maybe dan morgan is just
telling us we can win with these guys catching the
Ball From. Bryce, young yeah and so he's got a
TIGHT because i think he's saying Two with, bryce's size
he wants Guys that bryce can put it up for
it to have large catch Radiuses that bryce doesn't always
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have to be PERFECT. For u especially sometimes we know
that he's admitted sometimes it's tough to see over. Those
linemen so if he throws it a little, bit high
or he throws it up for guys that they've got
a chance to go up and. Get it so it also,
feels like not only is there a size stereotype that,
he likes but it also feels like that there is
a guy or he likes guys that have that large
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catch radius for his. SMALLER quarterback i think people can
get a little lost in the sauce when thinking. ABOUT
that i go all the way back to, twenty Fifteen
The Carolina Panther super, bowl year except right at the
beginning and The whole gettleman mantra Was Give cam newton
big receivers to work with because he misses high a,
decent amount and so let's just get tall dudes that
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can go up and get it compared to some of the.
Shorter Guys kelvin benjamin goes down with. That Injury devin
funches is a, big receiver but he's. A rookie the
big receiving impact that you had with, that team It
Was ted gin as your, deep threat It Was, philly
brown two really, short dudes and you Did Have greg
Olsen And, devin Funches But cam newton had his best
throwing gear with some smaller receivers that he was. Throwing
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TO so i like, the big strong wide. Receiver mold that's.
ALL great i just hope that you can win in
a variety of ways with different receivers out there on
the football field at. Different times can you win in?
MULTIPLE ways i think t mac was getting open to.
THE preseason i, like that but we haven't seen him
against press coverage on a real regular season. Football field
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that's still a concern that.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You Have.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
The thieling being gone from this. Team factor the people
are scared about it because you just don't know what
these young receivers can provide right now with.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The UNKNOWN oh i. DIDN'T know i thought you who was
gonna keep going?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Right this, but no this group, RIGHT now i think
it definitely has a lot of promise and you like
the makeup. Of IT and i was just thinking about
they're definitely gonna be an off the bus type of.
Receiving corps when they. Walk off you see these guys
warm ups and everybody's six, y three six' four, going
out there jumping out of the gym and. Things like
that so they have a type and we're gonna see
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if that, ends up working because, Sometimes you, wonder, i'm
Like man, well dan ever or would he skip on
the receiver because he feels like maybe he doesn't fit
the physical characteristics that he likes. As a receiver but as,
of right now we, see the type we see what,
he's looking for and now it's time to see if
it's going. To pay dividends, and also too how aggressive
are you going to be with these types of receivers
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if you have receivers with these types of size or these.
TYPES of, bodies i mean are you going to be
really attacking down the field because you have the guys
that are capable of coming up with fifty?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
To fifty BALLS GETTING. Some j t.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Sanders text too do you think this opens up more?
Opportunities for him is it as simple as it opens
up more? Opportunities for EVERYBODY. And is jt sanders one?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Of THOSE everybody if i were to say the pecking
order right now of, the receiving corps if you add
the tight, ENDS to it i would. Put HIM forth
but i know they will draw up some stuff for.
Him AS well but i would think that you're talking
About TARTOR roa cocher xl gonna be the main three guys,
on most plays but the scraps they should be left.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
On THE. Table maybe jt sanders can.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Gobble those, Though all right so running Backs They, Have
Chuba hubbard Rico Dwell And trevor etn i'll make the fifty.
Three Man roster raheem blackshear being the. Most notable cut
they kept. Four tight ends HOW. About, J T. Sanders
tommy trimble they Did Keep both Mitchell Levins and james mitchell,
on the roster so Good to see mitchell who made
some plays in the preseason. And in camp He Along
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with mitchell levins. Make the team and just Real quickly
on evans with him making The Squad and cam jackson
the fifth round defensive tackle They. Took from florida that
means west every single one of the draft picks.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Made, the team yeah no.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Doubt ABOUT it and i know the tight end situation
was maybe people thought that was gonna be an either
Or for the. Panthers as well so it feels like
they've got as good a talent maybe as they've had.
In a while when you talk.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
About overall depth looking at some, other notable names notable
relative relatively speaking with preseason and training, Camp Guys Linebackers
van martin. Scott made it i'm. GLAD for, him, I
thought yes i thought he was. A God thing joe
person had him on a chopping block. IN his name
i like the fact that. HE made it i thought
he had a. Nice enough offseason maybe a little bit
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of a surprise in terms of, who made it but
it's also a, position OF need so i think it
makes Some Sense With van martin scott being on the
squad And Then a caleb evans made the. Team at
cornerback that was a surprise. IN my opinion i wonder
IF you and i wonder if Bringing in a mathis
Means That a caleb evans might be. A corresponding move
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they also did Bring in uh carter, or excuse me
They they brought. CARTER back floutter i know you had
this tweet just trying to update people the offensive lineman.
That was cut he's now back on an injury designation. Something, like,
that yes yes.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
So he is he is on an injury, DESIGNATION injured
reserve i guess for.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
The, time being.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Okay so those are just some of the house cleaning
moves On with the panthers fifty three man roster looks
like with the big story today Being that the Panthers Finally.
Traded adam thielen we'll play some sound on the other side.
Of the Break It's. The live wire. Coming Up next
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before we get to. THE live wire a few things
Coming across. My twitter TIMELINE some probably.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know i would Say that you're i'm thrilled
to see one of these things come across your, timeline
flounder one and you're probably just happy to get some.
Clarity on, it of Course It involves north Carolina And
The Tar. Heels bill belichick they have officially named. A
starting quarterback it's Gonna, be Go Lopez the south alabama
transfer who was paid one point eight million dollars something
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like that somewhere.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
IN that neighborhood i thought it was, one point two
but it could be somewhere a.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Little bit higher over.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
A million dollars it's a lot of money to pay FOR,
A backup qb so that would have Been Surprising had
go lopez not been named, the starting quarterback but that's.
Not the, case HE is and i know he is
a big part of the Reason you have carolina going.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Eleven, and, One yeah man i'm excited about what this young.
MAN can bring i think he's a guy that's coming
down from a lower level that is looking. To, Prove
himself man and he's a guy, that you know he
pushes the ball down the field and he's got a
lot in store with his. Legs AS well so i
think he's going to be a very effective dual threat.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
For this offense you enjoyed talking to him? At, acc
kickoff yeah he.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Was, pretty cool, okay not anything as a, Matter OF
fact like i just saw him kind, of IN passing
but i wasn't. IN the room, I didn't well i
was in The room when, carolina came in but. NOT
the players i just was In There. For, coast belichie.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay what do you Think about go lopez getting? The? Starting,
JOB plown YEAH i mean.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
I like it i think It's Better than max johnson
getting the STARTING job because i think there's at least
some Upside. THERE for goo i think you're gonna see
a group that's gonna be able to run the football.
WITH their quarterback i think it's gonna look a lot
like Twenty Twenty. One, sam howell now the thing is
is how great? Really is that because remember that team won.
Six AND seven but i do believe that this is
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a guy that has the arm strength to push the
ball down the field a little bit, really ACCURATE quarterback
and i think you're gonna see him.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Use HIS legs so i think it'll take him a
little bit of time.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
TO settle in i think that that the, first few
games especially THE, game against tcu could be a little
bit of a shock to him that this is what
you're going to be playing week in.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And week out are.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Power FOR schools but i think as he goes throughout,
the the season he'll sort of settle in and become a.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Really, STEADY quarterback yeah tcu has a.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Really GOOD secondary but i, Will Say too man carolina
could take advantage of his. Deep passing ability he had
a ninety one passing. Grade last year forty one percent
passes went for twenty yards of more and he was
sixty seven Percent against the.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Blitz as well.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
So, if you're accurate you throw down field and. YOU can,
RUN i mean i don't know what. Else there is.
THERE'S some processing i guess we can get into some.
New ones now it'll be fun to.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
See his.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Development it does and also you have This Coming. From
north carolina AS far, as i know. This is true.
Oh It's true. BLEACHER report. Reported, i know yeah just
every once in a while you got. To, be careful
still people. Will Get you so i'm always going to.
Double Triple Check but bleacher report put Out There and
darren revel.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Had It, First Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
OH jesus Christ I hate darren revel had passion and
how many.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
People Love him bill belichick And His girlfriend jordan hudson
have filed a trademark for the Term, quote gold digger
with the intention of using it to create a line
of jewelry and key. Chains this, year of Course this
year they also Filed Trademarks, For Chapel, Bill the Bellustrator Trail,
Of Salty, Tears My God, no days Off And. The
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belichick way Now add gold digger. To the list we
went for a long time without seeing her, in the
news but right before college, football season starts we had
to get one last point Of Emphasis on jeordan.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Hudson, IN there yeah i give. IT to, her i
mean it's a clever name for what they're trying to.
Sail with it so but obviously the optics of it
don't look good with.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Their AGE gap.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
But i would imagine that they've had this news for
a while because they have filed these trademarks. Throughout THE
offseason so i think this is one they held on
to for at reason and decided to release it the week.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Of the game THAT'S that's.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
What I Think because darren rovel, is an ass.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
JUST that simple.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I hate him i was going to add into some
we were talking about different things going on around the college
area that. Are pretty Interesting uh to potele Will, Be, Giving,
ohio State florida and, georgia customized cards Granting them free
chipotle for the duration of. Their Athletic season, oh man
man how awesome is that you can just walk, in
(20:19):
into potle flash that card and get, whatever you.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Want double meat, it, Doesn't matter? Baby you? Good?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is it okay now if quarterbacks decide to stay in
school for eight years.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because of that just so they Can.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Eat for chipotle, so my guy who's the guy that
we always go BACK to and i never?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
REMEMBER.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
His, Name, jt daniels yes this happens EVERY single time
i think.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
About THAT.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Guy but jt daniels eating A lot of chipotle even
though it wasn't the.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Longest tenured guy Wasn't it, What cam McCormick wasn't?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He a Player it's, Just miami. Guy miami nine. It's
just fine it's just the.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Name of college, it's a lot it's it's just the
name that you always go back. To with him and so,
that's the example even if he isn't the longest tenured.
College football Player so now i'm not going to. Blame
these guys it's something important. To bring up don't you
want to go on to possibly try OUT. For the
nfl don't you want to end. Your, collegiate career no.
Guacamole is expensive you've got to at least come out
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of it. With, a doctorate yeah have minimum something at
least a master's with. Just, a bachelor's? Holmi are you
are you just even just? A master's too, like, you said.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah well you got to be enrolled.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
In graduate classes if you're a graduate student and you're
still a member of, the football program you do have
to be.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
In, graduate Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, so i'm saying so grad school, is a minimum, but,
nine years buddy you better, be a doctorate.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
A major in Hot, sauce at chipotle major. In tortilla chips,
GOLD digger man i don't.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
KNOW just.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That i can't it's just, Hilarious to me like it's not.
YOU said clever i do have to, stop you though.
It's not, CLEVER gold digger i. Think that's clever how
is it?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A jewelry? Line gold digger but that's.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's referencing jewelry but it Sounds Like A joe what,
i'm just saying that's a CLEVER name, for i, mean,
it's like hey it's, a jewelry line and gold DIGGER
means that i am dating an older man to get,
gold and jewelry and so it's like an Overused term,
and they're like we're going To try to it's such
a term that is a part, of everybody's lexicon and
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they're trying, to trademark it, Which is funny like we've already, got,
A Song, man kanye west do you not have this out?
Here trademarked already that's a swing.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And A, miss by kanye although you know he's kind
of lost. HIS mind himself i think we've just learned that, she,
is weird crazy whatever adjective you, want to, Use probably.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
ACCURATE probably, Accurate a right i'll stop making a big deal.
Out of it you're ready. To move on we want to.
Play some sound i've never been more ready to move on,
in my. LIFE fair enough i think a lot of
people feel. The same way time now for some sound
With flound.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
The East to the West and.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
The west, off.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
All right and we go back to a recent edition
Of the CART Talk with Jj Janssen where roman harper was.
On with, him of course they got to Talking About
the super bowl and everything that, surrounds that game and
he was asked specifically about a coaching staff decision that
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they made, before The game and roman not too happy
with the decision. That was made just the week of
The Game before. SUPER bowl fifty.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I didn't like how we handled the week leading up
To It. IN san jose i hate it. Where we
stayed there was. Nothing, to do yeah curfew, the WHOLE
time and i don't. Like that either you should treat
us the same on the road as we, Are at
home like you can't make it bigger than.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What it is you got to let.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
The, guys, Be guys YEP and so i didn't like that.
PART of it i also didn't like. Out of nowhere
they weren't letting me play defensively. All, the time okay
they were trying To Make let trey, boston get in which.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We hadn't done that.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
The whole year and it's Not even about trey as
Much as when, trey comes In, we Move kurt and
kurt had had nine or ten interceptions that you're. Literally
moving Everything so now kurt has to learn and do
a different thing than what he's done. All year long
and we didn't lose, the game defensively but. It, was
everything yes we could, have been better and sometimes when your,
offense is off the defense has. To play better we
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had the ability to do all, that all year which
is what we had done the coaches all of a
sudden Going Into the super bowl makes this Move dumbest move.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I've Ever, Seen all.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Right so what do you think about This Criticism from
roman harper about being Replaced During the Super Bowl by
trey boston at? A, CERTAIN.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Times, YEAH i mean i know guys would be frustrated
playing In, the super bowl the biggest game, that there
is and you want to be out. THERE and, play
i mean you don't want to get replaced in a
preseason game unless it's just time for you to come
out because your spot on the depth. Chart is secure
but to be In the super bowl and not be
a guy that gets to play as much as you
want and getting replaced, by, SOMEBODY.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Else yeah i would imagine you don't.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Like that either it sounds like he had a lot
more gripes when he talked about.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What they stayed and then not being.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Anything TO do but i think for a Team during,
super bowl week that's not. A bad thing you don't
want too much to do around a bunch. Of, football players,
yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
THAT makes sense i will say it wasn't necessarily the
defense that lost.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Them this game it.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Was The offense for carolina that just Couldn't Score because
von miller was an absolute animal on the Outside Rushing.
Against mike remmers and that's how we Now Know what mike.
Remmers to be even despite having a Decent year for,
Carolina That year mike remmers, was you know it was
it was gonna be Tough. Blocking von miller they were
just that defense was put in rough Situations when. The
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Broncos scored like i'm looking at that box score now and,
it's you know it's always tough to, go back to
but three recovered Fumbles For the denver broncos. In that
game you also had the one interception of course, That
camm through like that's just it's gonna set the defense
up for a bunch.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
OF tough looks i don't put that. On THE defense So, i.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Think roman clearly you get your job taken away in
some areas and you're just deciding to deploy a different
strategy that's going to frustrate you when you lose. ONE
hundred percent i do think it's interesting with the coaches
acting a little bit Differently With the super bowl than
what they did with every single other game leading up to,
the Big game AND that's where i don't know how
you HANDLE it like i would think you wouldn't want
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the moment to. Be, TOO big also i can Absolutely
Understand what roman harper. IS saying there i would be
interested to see what other head. COACHES strategies are i
would love To Know what ron. Rivera's comments are in
Return To hearing roman harper discuss some. Of his frustrations
he called it among the stupidest things that. He's, Ever,
seen right so. Interesting stuff there i'd like to hear
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what other head coaches have to say getting Ready For.
A super bowl you want to hear another head? Coach
get ripped. Sure do it Let's Go. With mike davis he.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Was On the.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Raw room podcast interesting, podcast name there and he Was
Talking About matt ruhle and he tells A Story about
Matt rule practicing christian McCaffrey shortly after he came back.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
From an injury you.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Know how Folks Don't Like matt rule when they was
talking about like they didn't like how he did this,
and all that. SUCH and such i ain't gonna. Lie tell,
you you know when you're playing good, and you're balling
you don't realize the stupid. That's going on we was
doing Stupid like like, mac, got Hurt, Right c maac
like first day.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Back from, injury all right we're gonna do a Live goal,
on oh?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
No what okay, During, the season yeah live Goal.
Speaker 10 (27:36):
On j This, is t yeah, during the. Season That's
insane but i'm saying that it's this time live goal
that's not even BEING in the nfl, practice.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
No, own no hell but it was kind of it
was like the only reason trying to badge on but
it's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
The season's week but.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
This this light DOWN the roll i said you're TALKING
about though. I, DIDN'T realize no i feel JUST saying
like i ain't realize like she WAS doing because, i
was falling You know, what I'M saying like.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I ain't, Care all right so from, A, football guy
wes what is is he right that normally you don't?
Practice goal line like how crazy is this of A
Moment from matt ruhle to do this with a running
back that was just coming.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Off, of injury yeah especially a running back that, is
you know your, top guy there that's tough to put
him in a very physical environment like that fresh. Off
Of injury and i'm sure to the veteran players, on
that team as they, just told us it didn't make
a lot of sense because you don't want to bring
him back and put him in a position to, get,
injured again obviously and so along with all of the
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other things that people did Not Like, about matt ruhle
that's certainly something that makes players question. Your football acumen
are you fit? For this job are you fit TO
be an? Nfl head coach because it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
SOUNDS absolutely asinine i Remember Talking with stefanya bell about
this INJURY. Analysts for espn you probably know her through her,
fantasy Football Contributions and stefanya bell would Always discuss the
Panthers usage of christian McCaffrey in games where he had
a ninety, percent SNAP rate which i always thought was
way too much, for that guy and how they would
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bring him back a little earlier from injury than. They
Probably SHOULD and stefanya i remember talking WITH her even
i did like a thirty minute podcast with her OR
whatever when i. Had her on this was during, twenty
twenty one, twenty twenty two so right after The Incident
that mike davis, is talking about and that's what she
Was hearing that christian McCaffrey just wouldn't ever.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Get a break and.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
We saw it they, played McCaffrey constantly and what was,
really frustrating is AS much As I love ron rivera
and have the utmost respect for him and everything, THAT
he's accomplished i thought that he was a little misguided
with how much. They used McCaffrey and then when that,
RULE came, over i, thought all right that's something i'd like.
To see change except all they did was turn the
volume up even. More on McCaffrey seeing, the football field
they didn't want to, take him off and so he
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constantly had Injury And the queen City go. To, san fran,
yeah less injuries, still some injuries especially with what we,
saw last year but they just never used them right,
in my opinion or if they, used them right they used.
Them too much and you would hear people behind, the,
scenes say yeah. This is weird this is not what other.
Teams do it it Was More than. Leveon bell usage
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it Was More than todd gurley usage over There.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
With the rams McCaffrey would not leave the.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Field short yardage go get a bigger back in there
on fourth and one and see if.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He, can convert nope. Gonna handle it they're gonna hand.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It to McCaffrey it, was, frustrating then yeah and it's
frustrating now hearing stories like that. When, it's confirmed yeah
we all knew, it was stupid and yet here they
were running a live goal line with McCaffrey coming, back.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
From dage. Right sounds idiotic what? Else?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Got, all right well, first of all we do have
two new practice squad members that. Have Been, added kaylin
king the defensive Back, from the packers who was a
surprise cut to Many amongst, the packers Media And, then
ania smith, a wide receiver has also been added to.
The PRACTICE squad so i wouldn't read too much into
that in Terms Of the, hunter renfro angle but certainly.
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Something Of note as mike kay says that, by his
math now seventeen spots have been spoken for on the
practice Squad.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
For, the panthers.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, there you go more, people being released and we
continue to See if the panthers are going To Bring,
back hunter renfro more practice squad spots keep. Being used
up if You, bring back renfro it'd probably be on
the main, roster, ANYWAY though right i, would.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Think so because i'm wondering with them continuing to pick,
Up wide, receivers i'm like what does this mean another
guy or two might get cut because they're picking. These
GUYS up but i know they're putting together, their, practice squad.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right and Especially with the, renfro Stuff Too with mike
ky also reporting that he hears There's competition for renfro
when it Comes, TO the panthers i think it's the
guy that performed as well as he did, in training
camp with multiple players, calling him unguardable and, we saw
it especially before. The hamstring injury it just, routing dudes
up even if it's one, on one scenarios they always.
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Favor The receiver anna renfroe had a good, camp before
INJURY and so i think he's gonna make an active
roster somewhere with what he's already accomplished. IN the league
i just hope It's. Here in carolina i'm pulling for
it to. Happen as well you want a quittor you? Got,
MORE sound no i got one more.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
For You guys aaron murray Talking on The mac, and
murray podcast new podcast that He's doing with eric McLain
and he i don't know if he was just kissing
up to, his co host but He says that clemson
should be number one in the country going.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Into this year i'm, Gonna be Honest i'm surprised clemson
is the number one of the country because that's my
number one team in the country for all the, Reasons
YOU said Because i think texas has a lot of
question marks at a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Of big.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Positions offensive, line you know we think arch is, gonna
be good? BUT how good i got a Proving Guy, in,
Kate klubnick who, i'll be honest was not a Big
Fan of kate clubnick early on.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
In, his career sure.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
He DIDN'T love what i saw Last year versus, georgia
week one and then he just gained so much confidence
from that moment for the.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Rest of the.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Season played, great so like you have an experienced quarterback
that's put, up the stats you, got the receivers the
defense is going. To be legit YOU'RE In the acc
like for, SO many reasons, i, sit back like why
is Not. Everyone saying clemson plus you've a head coach
who's won. Multiple national championships you're going back to, the
whole thing like who can? Win a championship dab was
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proven he. Can WIN championships So. I love clemson.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm, all for.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Clemson all right so do, you Believe That like, aaron
Murray Says the clemson tigers should be the number, one
overall team that you're not A team like Texas Or.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Say, PENN state, YEAH i mean i typically like the
defendant champion come back in. As number one but if you,
didn't do it if you want to look at the
team just based off the talent and, what, THEY'VE gotten
Yeah i think clemson is. The best team and that's
not just because they're. An ACC team, as i, said
this defense you look. At every LEVEL they are nfl guys.
That are there you look at. This offense too the
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only question mark that they have is at the, running
BACK position which i think if you were, to have
issues running back is probably the. Easiest to solve and
so when you want to look at talent, And perceived
weaknesses clemson has less than a lot of the other
quote unquote championship contenders.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Across the country, how?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Dare you sir Running Backs Matter west and i'm tired
of you disrespecting the. Running back position it is not
an easy. POSITION to solve i think people complaining about
preseason rankings and polls is one of the most overstated issues.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
IN college football i.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
CAN'T stand it i actually like the process that we
have where a bunch of college football minds come together
and imperfectly give you their best shot at who the
top twenty five teams are going to be coming. Into
this year Guess what happens if your number one ranked
team coming into. The year sucks they're not going to
be in the top. Twenty five anymore they're not going
to be in the. Top ten anymore they're not going
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to be In The college football playoff. If they lose
so you. Got it wrong we make the rankings because
we give it our best shot to see who the top,
twenty five team, and guess what a lot of times
they do a pretty. Damn good job isn't there only
one team and the preseason top ten that usually falls
out of the top twenty five. By season's end it's
a pretty. Decent hit rate as much as we like to,
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argue about it these things. Figure out themselves. It's totally
fine what else do we? Want to do not. Have
preseason rankings for all these teams to come, out in
football what?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Are we, doing it's okay your first week matchups.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Would mean one there would be certain games where you'd
look at it, and be like how good?
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Is?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
This game really everybody get hyped for THE Zero ranked
lsu tigers facing The Zero.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Ranked clemson, TIGERS ah man i want.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Some poping circumstances give, me top, one top, two top three,
Top five MATCHUPS that's. What i want, but oh no
everything's going to be affected once.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
We get to the.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
College football playoff like the team that lost four games isn't.
Going to that they're going to still be ranked number
one if they indeed?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Lost.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
FOR it yep i think people complain about it constantly
and it's. Always been stupid we end on That For.
The live wire, coming up next It's The Walk off
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Speaker 1 (36:04):
Seven wfn z are the challenge for me? To walk,
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Speaker 10 (36:25):
It's.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
A walk off it's.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
A walk off i want To Apologize to aaron murray
for my. Anger last segment that was not, directed. At you,
sir in fact you didn't say. Anything wrong whatsoever it
just got me on one of my COLLEGE footballboxes and.
I blacked out sam demand rights In on the. Fandel
Text line aaron murray didn't say. He was mad he
just said he Would have had. Clemson number one why are?
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You so, angry.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
YOU'RE right sir i got angry because.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
OF the process a lot of people do complain, about
PRESEASON rankings and i went there instead of addressing, the
actual question which was do You Think that aaron murray
is Right in thinking clemson should have been? RANKED number
one i would have agreed with him actually coming. INTO
the season i just got mad because of the whole
process and. People criticizing, It So, anyways aaron murray you.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Didn't do anything you can always count on, The, text
line man bring it back.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Down to.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
EARTH they did, I, appreciate that sam You are demand it's.
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yep cam newton. Under television screen he just inked a
(37:36):
new Deal With. ESPN's first take they reached a new
multi year agreement and his role will Be Expanded, on
first take ESPN's signature. Morning debate show newton will bring
his quote unique perspective to the. Show's dynamic discussions he'll
Make his return thursday during A Live Show this Is
Tomorrow At norfolk state university as a Part Of THE first.
(37:57):
Take hbcu tour he joins a roster of Prominent Personalities,
on First TAKE. Including, Steven, A Smith, post Molly kiram
And sirius XM's Chris ad dog russo what do You
Think about cam newton having a more prominent role on the?
SHOW first tape i think IT'S.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Good and i think it's a reflection of how good
his content has been, if you do, indeed ENJOY it.
And I do and i was going, to, ask you
man did you ever see This coming from cam while?
He was here because we know that, he was charismatic
we know that he was always good, For A quote
but i did not see him having this type of media.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
CAREER post career i didn't think. HE would either i
did not expect. That to happen he never really had
that grade of a way with words up. At, the
lectern yeah still struggles with that just, a little bit
but he. So entertained it but it's, all about entertaining
and that's. What they're doing they're bringing in some of.
The Lightning rods cam newton is a lightning rod that
has something interesting, to say constantly and a lot of
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times he gets in. TROUBLE for it i just don't
know how, much, He Cares right cam newton will even
despair it his.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Teammates at time he wants.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
All the smoke he doesn't, duck smoke well and that's
what makes him so Entertaining to The gilly.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
THE kids, stuff i mean with some of his best
work that he's ever. Put out there? DID you know
i need to see the LAST one so i.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Didn't see it Did you know ghiladelphia? Was an album.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's great stuff two and a half minutes of Him
just Slamming gilly the kid calling. HIM a, mascot i
mean really. Top tier stuff but that's the kind of
content that gets you on first take in a. More
prominent role and they are Trying To, replace shannon sharp
who's NO longer, with espn anymore and so they're bringing
in another former football, player that's. Outspoken That's Entertaining enter
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cam newton with the hat.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
And, all that yeah everything that he brings, to THE table,
and i, think you know he's going to continue. TO
go up i know he's campaigned TO have an. Hbcu
game DAY but, Like I said cam newton's doing. A
great job i check in on his content pretty MUCH
daily when i see it, On my, timeline so yeah good,
job for?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Him all right?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
What's, on Tap, also, the braves well they're. Playing right
now it's actually at the bottom of the end. Of
the fifth it looks like they're going to the top of,
the sixth Inning and the braves are up Big.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
On the marlins they're up. Nine to one they're kind of.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Hot right now they seem, might be done but they're.
Kind of Hot you had wentz on The. Mound for atlanta,
he's still pitching as. IT seems now i don't know
if he's going to trop back out there, for the
sixth but he's only got a sixty. FIVE pitch count
i would expect that he does. NICE out hope i
would hope not, doing so bad right now only, one
earned run, three hits allowed one walk Allowed to the
marlins with, only ONE run and i don't Know if
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It's Gusto. Or gusto flounder i'm going to go to. The, baseball,
pronunciator no okay you don't know. This one either gusto
went out There, for the marlins allowed nine earned runs
in three and two. THIRDS innings pitched, i would say
not so great for my man Down. There in miami
how many more games are? Left after this they have
two hundred, and sixty one so still plenty of time
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for a time to get on even more of, a
hot streak get back. To five hundred potentially they're sixty
and seventy two now it would be. A long climb
and finally some tennis for ALL Of you. Us open
fans that's going. On Right now francis tiafo will take
the court, at three, o'clock so really in just under,
Ten Minutes, time francis tiafo the seventeenth ranked player. In
(41:15):
the country he, IN the nation, i should say he'll
face Damn.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
A fellow american.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
At three o'clock He will face i'm looking up the first,
name right now all To.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
See is.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Damn i'm Scrolling i'm Scrolling martin dam martin dam in round.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Two.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
DAM damm interesting i guess. Some people curse he thinks
maybe they're calling his.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Name. Military style damn, what, You want man.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I'm just, saying. YOUR name sir I really hope tiafo.
Gets it done do you? Care at all we don't care.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
About aagas he's. Not Out, THERE didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No i do i've been attention, a, Little bit man
I'm Tapping on coco golf and some of the. LADIES
out there i do. LOOK at that i Keep up
with tiafo because of. You as well and then obviously some.
Of the headlines did you Get from the yokovich he's
going for his Twenty Fifth. CAREER grand slam i mean
just one? Fifth, career title? Yeah just.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
ONE this hint i think it just ended a. Little
bit ago so he's moving on to the next round.
After a victory so Nice. Job from novak djokovic was
just pushed smoke. FOR some reason i just decided to.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Love you know sometimes you got you might get.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
My little shoved that's coming from a former, offensive lineman
though so that's probably, a little.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Heavy you KNOW smoke and i. Were Wrestling guys so.
Smoke sold it he sold. IT really well i gave
him a light Tap and then smoke goes flying. Into
the wall he bounces off to. The back wall that's, called.
SELLING it folks i thought.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
He Was Doing his.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Wilfrid zaha. IMPRESSION i'm Sorry i thought smoke really just did.
ALMOST fall over i don't think. He's, SELLING anything Yeah
i think smoke really almost MY mastron that i might
need to, be out, there you know Playing. For, the
panthers well i'd go to the. Forty NINE ers but
i was, Going to say i'm as good as a
almost as good as a Seller as mister.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Perfect did a good job.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Of Selling it miss smoker might just do a series
of social media videos and just, call them sales and
then we just walk and through simple stuff every day
and then.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
We sell it who gets to put who? Through, a
table well that wouldn't be, a, SALE because WELL i
guess i would have to SELL how.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Hurt i Am but because i've never had it, HAPPEN
to me i would be.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Really THAT hurt so I don't think i. Could sell
that i'd.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Be laying there you'd probably be missing a partner, for
that day maybe two.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
To, Three days.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay maca went through a table and he actually did
ready to.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
The next day he missed.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
The table too he didn't. Completely, get it yeah but.
We're talking force being slammed through the table. Is completely
different you're gonna pick, Them up Hercules that's.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
What, i'm saying, okay all right thing's going to. Require
some help and, by the way a bagel guy trying, To, get,
Us no sir i've already fallen. For this joke, mike first,
name Last. Name ox long it's not an up and coming,
Tennis play right i'm not following.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
For.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
That ever again, that'll. Do it uh for This edition Of.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
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and there is a lot of news coming in via
the NFL as it.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Relates to the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
If you're just joining us and you live under a rock, well,
well we're here to inform you that Adam thlen has
been traded to the Minnesota Vikings, and in exchange, the
Panthers are getting a fourth round pick. Really, they're profiting
a fourth rounder. The exact details are that Minnesota receives
Adam Thielen, a conditional seventh round pick and a fifth
round pick in twenty twenty six while the Panthers basically
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swap fifth rounders with Minnesota. They're getting a twenty twenty
six fifth rounder from the Vikings, but they're getting a
twenty twenty seven fourth rounder again. To put it simply,
the Panthers profit a fourth round pick by sending Adam
Thlen back home to Minnesota.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
How are you feeling about it?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Fandual text line seven oh four five seven oh ninety six'.
Ten not only are people writing in about Their Adam thlen,
takes people excited About Hendon hooker being a quarterback In.
Carolina panthers are signing the Former tennessee standout after the
loan year With Josh heipel just having him soar with
an awesome win Against. Alabama The Hendon Hooker Bryce young,
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game by the, way fun game between those two guys
When tennessee ended up getting that. Victory but now both
of those guys are playing for the same. Team hooker
going to be on the practice squad as that third STRING. Qb,
ULTIMATELY i like it BECAUSE i Like Hendon. Hooker pre,
DRAFT i thought he was about a second or third round.
Pick detroit ends up using the third round selection on.
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Him gets beat this year in the offseason By Kyle.
ALLEN i swear everybody is just one degree of separation
from one. Another Kyle allen wins the backup job In.
Detroit detroit Drops Hendon. Hooker Amon Ross Saint brown said
it was a. Surprise didn't Expect Hendon hooker to be,
dropped but we love. Him he's got a lot of.
TALENT i hope he blows up. Somewhere probably not going
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to blow up. Here Bryce, Young we're hoping he blows
up as the starter In. Carolina BUT i do like
Having hooker as the third stringer way more THAN i
would like to have Had Jack plumber back and Or Bryce.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Perkins.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
YEAH i mean at this point and when we hear
some of the, guys especially that will, start and especially
in the southeastern part of the, world you, know you
kind of get caught up in it and you think
about what they did when they were at their previous.
Spots and we talked about it this morning in the
fishboat With kyle, saying how you know he was With
Ben johnson and wasn't able to really develop into that
silid backup That i'm Sure detroit wanted him to. Be
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so at this Point my expectations are just kind of.
INDIFFERENT i think he's going to come in here and
be a guy that's going to be a practice squad,
player and that's about.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
It BUT i, mean the fans getting.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Excited they're thinking about the deep balls At, tennessee and
they're thinking about the way that he played that last year.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
There that was ancient.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
History my, man he's in THE nfl now and he's
become just another backup, quarterback and to, me that's all
he's going to be.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Here but he's our backup. Quarterback that's is, true and
we can embrace. Them and you, know people love themselves
a backup. Quarterback they're also bringing in running BACK Dj.
Dallas he was a fourth round pick By seattle all
the way back in twenty. Twenty we know ABOUT Dj
dallas too in acc, country having played For miami fun
running back that did get a few opportunities up with The,
Seahawks AND i think some of the waiver claims coming
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in some of the players that they're signing on the
practice squad not a, surprise but they have familiarity with
some people on the coaching. Staff SO Dj dallas having
been With seattle in twenty, twenty he's, available So Dave,
canalis having That seattle, experience he goes after one of
those running backs And Jero averro having experience With mathis
who was claimed off of. Waivers Tomari, mathis defensive back
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released By. Denver Tomari mathis had his best year with
The Jaro Rivero winnavero was a defensive coordinator with The,
broncos and so they're going back to the. Familiarity, well
and they're signing a couple of those. GUYS i will
Say mathis is somebody THAT nfl accounts THAT i trust
were pointing to and, saying, hey good player. Here denver
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has a deep defensive back room Has they're pretty deep at,
cornerback of, course starting With Patrick. Certan so they drop
somebody that probably would be making a lot of other
teams as a depth.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Piece carolina picks them.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Up don't know what it means For Corey thornton and,
others if they're just outright safe or. Not but was
a valued player and The panthers use a waiverclaim on
him with the eighth priority.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Spot, yeah AND i mean if he comes in here
makes an, impact then that Means denver must have one
hell of a secondary in store for the rest of THE.
Nfl but regardless of the, fact we see waiver pickups
all the time to end up paying dividends for, Teams
so this sounds like it's got a lot of, promise
more so than the run of the meal pickups that you.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
See, yeah did not play a lot of snaps last
year in, coverage had forty eight coverage snaps just last
season he played. Ten that's the most that he played
in a. Game he did that three separate. Times he
did play ten coverage snaps Against carolina when they. Played
had a sixty three point two coverage grade last. Year
back in twenty twenty, two when he played almost five
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hundred coverage, snaps he had a sixty five point three coverage. Grade,
fine like, decent maybe even above, average depending on how
you view out in the. Corner and the other thing
that we always have to, consider especially with this. Regime
more than, Most Dan morgan has done a nice job
of finding these guys that are cast aside and then
turning him and turning them into impact. Players you Have
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jalen Kocher nuff. Said, there then you also Have Mike,
jackson who they Traded Michael barrett For Mike jackson turns
his opportunity into a nice contract and a starting job
on the, outside opposite of. J. C. Horn don't know
if that's going to happen With, mathis But mathis PROBABLY
i would think the highest potential for providing some type
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of impact With carolina this.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Year, yeah and so hopefully it'll be a good pickup for,
him all.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Right Joe person also writing in that they picked up
a wide receiver off of waivers as, well In Dalveyon.
Campbell excuse, me De Levin dalavon. ANYWAYS i don't know
how you pronounce, it But Dalivon campbell from The. Chargers
he's six'. Four man That's What dan, morgan wants more big. Wide, receivers,
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receivers man that's the name of the game. For, him
uh let's get to something a little, MORE interesting i
guess than waiver. Wire Pickups Because hunter renfro still not on.
The Team hunter renfro. Got cut he was one of
the more surprise cuts in all OF. The nfl he's
the cover of that article On The Athletic Most surprising
cuts IN. The nfl It Was hunter renfro's picture front.
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And center so They keep Bryce, and tremaine They Keep,
david moore They Trade, adam thielen and yet we still
Don't Have. Hunter, renfro now nobody could, claim him claim
him off waivers because he's, a veteran so he's free
to sign With the panthers. Right now but They have
tremaine and they just picked up a.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Wide.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Receiver wes do You Think hunter renfro comes back and
is an eventual member Of.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
The panthers it doesn't sound like it to me at
this point when you go out and sign another receiver
like they. JUST did, i mean if they Really Wanted
hunter renfro, THAT bad i think he'd already be back in.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
The, building no oh.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
MAYBE not i MEAN it's i, don't, know negotiations fielding
offers from. Other teams do You Want hunter? Renfro, BACK
yeah i think it would be nice to be able to.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Have him cannot just, to, say oh, you know he's
a guy that's Gonna Replace adam thielen and what, he
did or he's a, you know nice depth piece that
Is Like. ADAM thielen i just Think That hunter renfroad
showed some nice Things and i'd like to see him get.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Another shot We have martinsville clock it's saying That the
chargers fans are not Happy. Losing campbell he actually put
Up a chargers post, THAT said i see several fragile
wide receivers on a roster currently that would not be
a Problem.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
With campbell i'm done venting. About this bleeping sucks.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Losing, talent yeah eighteen yards, a catch so a, deep
THREAT which i think you NEED if exxl is not
going to step up in, that category AND t mac
is also supposed to provide you some impact that.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
It's so kind of similar in, that vein and That's
What damn. Morgan likes we talked about what the receivers,
with size, BUT yeah i mean he was putting up
some gaudy numbers when you talk yards.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Per catch so a lot of people still a little
back and forth On Trading adam Thiel and fandal text
line seven oh four five seven oh ninety.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Six ten We have cowherd saying effing hate.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
This trade flan was our most, reliable receiver our vet
presence Automatic, for bryce maybe even on, third downs and
all we get our. Trash picks the hit rates on.
Fourth rounders it's one in five you brought up the
twenty percent chance that you just. Looked up so that's
how most people, are feeling and. Not most it's fifty.
To fifty some people feel The way. Cowhert does a
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lot of people are cool With Trading adam thielen rather
than risk losing him. FOR nothing i just think It
means carolina is high on their Young, receiving Corps which i'm.
Positive About if i'm going off of what they're telling
us without, TELLING us i think that they're cool with
the three wide receivers they have one, through three and
then the vet Presence And david moore and Maybe Even
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jimmy horn gives, you something especially in, special teams but
especially that one. Through Three Maybe dan morgan is just
telling us we can win with these guys catching the
Ball From. Bryce, young yeah and so he's got a
TIGHT because i think he's saying Two with, bryce's size
he wants Guys that bryce can put it up for
it to have large catch Radiuses that bryce doesn't always
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have to be PERFECT. For u especially sometimes we know
that he's admitted sometimes it's tough to see over. Those
linemen so if he throws it a little, bit high
or he throws it up for guys that they've got
a chance to go up and. Get it so it also,
feels like not only is there a size stereotype that,
he likes but it also feels like that there is
a guy or he likes guys that have that large
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catch radius for his. SMALLER quarterback i think people can
get a little lost in the sauce when thinking. ABOUT
that i go all the way back to, twenty Fifteen
The Carolina Panther super, bowl year except right at the
beginning and The whole gettleman mantra Was Give cam newton
big receivers to work with because he misses high a,
decent amount and so let's just get tall dudes that
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can go up and get it compared to some of the.
Shorter Guys kelvin benjamin goes down with. That Injury devin
funches is a, big receiver but he's. A rookie the
big receiving impact that you had with, that team It
Was ted gin as your, deep threat It Was, philly
brown two really, short dudes and you Did Have greg
Olsen And, devin Funches But cam newton had his best
throwing gear with some smaller receivers that he was. Throwing
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TO so i like, the big strong wide. Receiver mold that's.
ALL great i just hope that you can win in
a variety of ways with different receivers out there on
the football field at. Different times can you win in?
MULTIPLE ways i think t mac was getting open to.
THE preseason i, like that but we haven't seen him
against press coverage on a real regular season. Football field
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that's still a concern that.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
You Have.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
The thieling being gone from this. Team factor the people
are scared about it because you just don't know what
these young receivers can provide right now with.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
The UNKNOWN oh i. DIDN'T know i thought you who was
gonna keep going?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Right this, but no this group, RIGHT now i think
it definitely has a lot of promise and you like
the makeup. Of IT and i was just thinking about
they're definitely gonna be an off the bus type of.
Receiving corps when they. Walk off you see these guys
warm ups and everybody's six, y three six' four, going
out there jumping out of the gym and. Things like
that so they have a type and we're gonna see
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if that, ends up working because, Sometimes you, wonder, i'm
Like man, well dan ever or would he skip on
the receiver because he feels like maybe he doesn't fit
the physical characteristics that he likes. As a receiver but as,
of right now we, see the type we see what,
he's looking for and now it's time to see if
it's going. To pay dividends, and also too how aggressive
are you going to be with these types of receivers
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if you have receivers with these types of size or these.
TYPES of, bodies i mean are you going to be
really attacking down the field because you have the guys
that are capable of coming up with fifty?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
To fifty BALLS GETTING. Some j t.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Sanders text too do you think this opens up more?
Opportunities for him is it as simple as it opens
up more? Opportunities for EVERYBODY. And is jt sanders one?
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Of THOSE everybody if i were to say the pecking
order right now of, the receiving corps if you add
the tight, ENDS to it i would. Put HIM forth
but i know they will draw up some stuff for.
Him AS well but i would think that you're talking
About TARTOR roa cocher xl gonna be the main three guys,
on most plays but the scraps they should be left.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
On THE. Table maybe jt sanders can.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Gobble those, Though all right so running Backs They, Have
Chuba hubbard Rico Dwell And trevor etn i'll make the fifty.
Three Man roster raheem blackshear being the. Most notable cut
they kept. Four tight ends HOW. About, J T. Sanders
tommy trimble they Did Keep both Mitchell Levins and james mitchell,
on the roster so Good to see mitchell who made
some plays in the preseason. And in camp He Along
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with mitchell levins. Make the team and just Real quickly
on evans with him making The Squad and cam jackson
the fifth round defensive tackle They. Took from florida that
means west every single one of the draft picks.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Made, the team yeah no.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Doubt ABOUT it and i know the tight end situation
was maybe people thought that was gonna be an either
Or for the. Panthers as well so it feels like
they've got as good a talent maybe as they've had.
In a while when you talk.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
About overall depth looking at some, other notable names notable
relative relatively speaking with preseason and training, Camp Guys Linebackers
van martin. Scott made it i'm. GLAD for, him, I
thought yes i thought he was. A God thing joe
person had him on a chopping block. IN his name
i like the fact that. HE made it i thought
he had a. Nice enough offseason maybe a little bit
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of a surprise in terms of, who made it but
it's also a, position OF need so i think it
makes Some Sense With van martin scott being on the
squad And Then a caleb evans made the. Team at
cornerback that was a surprise. IN my opinion i wonder
IF you and i wonder if Bringing in a mathis
Means That a caleb evans might be. A corresponding move
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they also did Bring in uh carter, or excuse me
They they brought. CARTER back floutter i know you had
this tweet just trying to update people the offensive lineman.
That was cut he's now back on an injury designation. Something, like,
that yes yes.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
So he is he is on an injury, DESIGNATION injured
reserve i guess for.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
The, time being.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Okay so those are just some of the house cleaning
moves On with the panthers fifty three man roster looks
like with the big story today Being that the Panthers Finally.
Traded adam thielen we'll play some sound on the other side.
Of the Break It's. The live wire. Coming Up next
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before we get to. THE live wire a few things
Coming across. My twitter TIMELINE some probably.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I don't know i would Say that you're i'm thrilled
to see one of these things come across your, timeline
flounder one and you're probably just happy to get some.
Clarity on, it of Course It involves north Carolina And
The Tar. Heels bill belichick they have officially named. A
starting quarterback it's Gonna, be Go Lopez the south alabama
transfer who was paid one point eight million dollars something
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like that somewhere.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
IN that neighborhood i thought it was, one point two
but it could be somewhere a.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Little bit higher over.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
A million dollars it's a lot of money to pay FOR,
A backup qb so that would have Been Surprising had
go lopez not been named, the starting quarterback but that's.
Not the, case HE is and i know he is
a big part of the Reason you have carolina going.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Eleven, and, One yeah man i'm excited about what this young.
MAN can bring i think he's a guy that's coming
down from a lower level that is looking. To, Prove
himself man and he's a guy, that you know he
pushes the ball down the field and he's got a
lot in store with his. Legs AS well so i
think he's going to be a very effective dual threat.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
For this offense you enjoyed talking to him? At, acc
kickoff yeah he.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Was, pretty cool, okay not anything as a, Matter OF
fact like i just saw him kind, of IN passing
but i wasn't. IN the room, I didn't well i
was in The room when, carolina came in but. NOT
the players i just was In There. For, coast belichie.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay what do you Think about go lopez getting? The? Starting,
JOB plown YEAH i mean.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
I like it i think It's Better than max johnson
getting the STARTING job because i think there's at least
some Upside. THERE for goo i think you're gonna see
a group that's gonna be able to run the football.
WITH their quarterback i think it's gonna look a lot
like Twenty Twenty. One, sam howell now the thing is
is how great? Really is that because remember that team won.
Six AND seven but i do believe that this is
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a guy that has the arm strength to push the
ball down the field a little bit, really ACCURATE quarterback
and i think you're gonna see him.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Use HIS legs so i think it'll take him a
little bit of time.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
TO settle in i think that that the, first few
games especially THE, game against tcu could be a little
bit of a shock to him that this is what
you're going to be playing week in.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
And week out are.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Power FOR schools but i think as he goes throughout,
the the season he'll sort of settle in and become a.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Really, STEADY quarterback yeah tcu has a.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Really GOOD secondary but i, Will Say too man carolina
could take advantage of his. Deep passing ability he had
a ninety one passing. Grade last year forty one percent
passes went for twenty yards of more and he was
sixty seven Percent against the.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Blitz as well.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
So, if you're accurate you throw down field and. YOU can,
RUN i mean i don't know what. Else there is.
THERE'S some processing i guess we can get into some.
New ones now it'll be fun to.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
See his.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Development it does and also you have This Coming. From
north carolina AS far, as i know. This is true.
Oh It's true. BLEACHER report. Reported, i know yeah just
every once in a while you got. To, be careful
still people. Will Get you so i'm always going to.
Double Triple Check but bleacher report put Out There and
darren revel.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Had It, First Bill Belichick.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
OH jesus Christ I hate darren revel had passion and
how many.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
People Love him bill belichick And His girlfriend jordan hudson
have filed a trademark for the Term, quote gold digger
with the intention of using it to create a line
of jewelry and key. Chains this, year of Course this
year they also Filed Trademarks, For Chapel, Bill the Bellustrator Trail,
Of Salty, Tears My God, no days Off And. The
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belichick way Now add gold digger. To the list we
went for a long time without seeing her, in the
news but right before college, football season starts we had
to get one last point Of Emphasis on jeordan.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Hudson, IN there yeah i give. IT to, her i
mean it's a clever name for what they're trying to.
Sail with it so but obviously the optics of it
don't look good with.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Their AGE gap.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
But i would imagine that they've had this news for
a while because they have filed these trademarks. Throughout THE
offseason so i think this is one they held on
to for at reason and decided to release it the week.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Of the game THAT'S that's.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
What I Think because darren rovel, is an ass.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
JUST that simple.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
I hate him i was going to add into some
we were talking about different things going on around the college
area that. Are pretty Interesting uh to potele Will, Be, Giving,
ohio State florida and, georgia customized cards Granting them free
chipotle for the duration of. Their Athletic season, oh man
man how awesome is that you can just walk, in
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into potle flash that card and get, whatever you.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Want double meat, it, Doesn't matter? Baby you? Good?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is it okay now if quarterbacks decide to stay in
school for eight years.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Because of that just so they Can.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Eat for chipotle, so my guy who's the guy that
we always go BACK to and i never?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
REMEMBER.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
His, Name, jt daniels yes this happens EVERY single time
i think.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
About THAT.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Guy but jt daniels eating A lot of chipotle even
though it wasn't the.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
Longest tenured guy Wasn't it, What cam McCormick wasn't?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
He a Player it's, Just miami. Guy miami nine. It's
just fine it's just the.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Name of college, it's a lot it's it's just the
name that you always go back. To with him and so,
that's the example even if he isn't the longest tenured.
College football Player so now i'm not going to. Blame
these guys it's something important. To bring up don't you
want to go on to possibly try OUT. For the
nfl don't you want to end. Your, collegiate career no.
Guacamole is expensive you've got to at least come out
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of it. With, a doctorate yeah have minimum something at
least a master's with. Just, a bachelor's? Holmi are you
are you just even just? A master's too, like, you said.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah well you got to be enrolled.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
In graduate classes if you're a graduate student and you're
still a member of, the football program you do have
to be.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
In, graduate Cool.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, so i'm saying so grad school, is a minimum, but,
nine years buddy you better, be a doctorate.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
A major in Hot, sauce at chipotle major. In tortilla chips,
GOLD digger man i don't.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
KNOW just.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
That i can't it's just, Hilarious to me like it's not.
YOU said clever i do have to, stop you though.
It's not, CLEVER gold digger i. Think that's clever how
is it?
Speaker 1 (21:56):
A jewelry? Line gold digger but that's.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
It's referencing jewelry but it Sounds Like A joe what,
i'm just saying that's a CLEVER name, for i, mean,
it's like hey it's, a jewelry line and gold DIGGER
means that i am dating an older man to get,
gold and jewelry and so it's like an Overused term,
and they're like we're going To try to it's such
a term that is a part, of everybody's lexicon and
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they're trying, to trademark it, Which is funny like we've already, got,
A Song, man kanye west do you not have this out?
Here trademarked already that's a swing.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
And A, miss by kanye although you know he's kind
of lost. HIS mind himself i think we've just learned that, she,
is weird crazy whatever adjective you, want to, Use probably.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
ACCURATE probably, Accurate a right i'll stop making a big deal.
Out of it you're ready. To move on we want to.
Play some sound i've never been more ready to move on,
in my. LIFE fair enough i think a lot of
people feel. The same way time now for some sound
With flound.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
The East to the West and.
Speaker 8 (23:01):
The west, off.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
All right and we go back to a recent edition
Of the CART Talk with Jj Janssen where roman harper was.
On with, him of course they got to Talking About
the super bowl and everything that, surrounds that game and
he was asked specifically about a coaching staff decision that
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they made, before The game and roman not too happy
with the decision. That was made just the week of
The Game before. SUPER bowl fifty.
Speaker 9 (23:36):
I didn't like how we handled the week leading up
To It. IN san jose i hate it. Where we
stayed there was. Nothing, to do yeah curfew, the WHOLE
time and i don't. Like that either you should treat
us the same on the road as we, Are at
home like you can't make it bigger than.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
What it is you got to let.
Speaker 9 (23:52):
The, guys, Be guys YEP and so i didn't like that.
PART of it i also didn't like. Out of nowhere
they weren't letting me play defensively. All, the time okay
they were trying To Make let trey, boston get in which.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
We hadn't done that.
Speaker 9 (24:03):
The whole year and it's Not even about trey as
Much as when, trey comes In, we Move kurt and
kurt had had nine or ten interceptions that you're. Literally
moving Everything so now kurt has to learn and do
a different thing than what he's done. All year long
and we didn't lose, the game defensively but. It, was
everything yes we could, have been better and sometimes when your,
offense is off the defense has. To play better we
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had the ability to do all, that all year which
is what we had done the coaches all of a
sudden Going Into the super bowl makes this Move dumbest move.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I've Ever, Seen all.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Right so what do you think about This Criticism from
roman harper about being Replaced During the Super Bowl by
trey boston at? A, CERTAIN.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Times, YEAH i mean i know guys would be frustrated
playing In, the super bowl the biggest game, that there
is and you want to be out. THERE and, play
i mean you don't want to get replaced in a
preseason game unless it's just time for you to come
out because your spot on the depth. Chart is secure
but to be In the super bowl and not be
a guy that gets to play as much as you
want and getting replaced, by, SOMEBODY.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Else yeah i would imagine you don't.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Like that either it sounds like he had a lot
more gripes when he talked about.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What they stayed and then not being.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Anything TO do but i think for a Team during,
super bowl week that's not. A bad thing you don't
want too much to do around a bunch. Of, football players,
yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
THAT makes sense i will say it wasn't necessarily the
defense that lost.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Them this game it.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Was The offense for carolina that just Couldn't Score because
von miller was an absolute animal on the Outside Rushing.
Against mike remmers and that's how we Now Know what mike.
Remmers to be even despite having a Decent year for,
Carolina That year mike remmers, was you know it was
it was gonna be Tough. Blocking von miller they were
just that defense was put in rough Situations when. The
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Broncos scored like i'm looking at that box score now and,
it's you know it's always tough to, go back to
but three recovered Fumbles For the denver broncos. In that
game you also had the one interception of course, That
camm through like that's just it's gonna set the defense
up for a bunch.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
OF tough looks i don't put that. On THE defense So, i.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Think roman clearly you get your job taken away in
some areas and you're just deciding to deploy a different
strategy that's going to frustrate you when you lose. ONE
hundred percent i do think it's interesting with the coaches
acting a little bit Differently With the super bowl than
what they did with every single other game leading up to,
the Big game AND that's where i don't know how
you HANDLE it like i would think you wouldn't want
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the moment to. Be, TOO big also i can Absolutely
Understand what roman harper. IS saying there i would be
interested to see what other head. COACHES strategies are i
would love To Know what ron. Rivera's comments are in
Return To hearing roman harper discuss some. Of his frustrations
he called it among the stupidest things that. He's, Ever,
seen right so. Interesting stuff there i'd like to hear
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what other head coaches have to say getting Ready For.
A super bowl you want to hear another head? Coach
get ripped. Sure do it Let's Go. With mike davis he.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Was On the.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Raw room podcast interesting, podcast name there and he Was
Talking About matt ruhle and he tells A Story about
Matt rule practicing christian McCaffrey shortly after he came back.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
From an injury you.
Speaker 8 (27:07):
Know how Folks Don't Like matt rule when they was
talking about like they didn't like how he did this,
and all that. SUCH and such i ain't gonna. Lie tell,
you you know when you're playing good, and you're balling
you don't realize the stupid. That's going on we was
doing Stupid like like, mac, got Hurt, Right c maac
like first day.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Back from, injury all right we're gonna do a Live goal,
on oh?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
No what okay, During, the season yeah live Goal.
Speaker 10 (27:36):
On j This, is t yeah, during the. Season That's
insane but i'm saying that it's this time live goal
that's not even BEING in the nfl, practice.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
No, own no hell but it was kind of it
was like the only reason trying to badge on but
it's doing.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
The season's week but.
Speaker 8 (27:55):
This this light DOWN the roll i said you're TALKING
about though. I, DIDN'T realize no i feel JUST saying
like i ain't realize like she WAS doing because, i
was falling You know, what I'M saying like.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
I ain't, Care all right so from, A, football guy
wes what is is he right that normally you don't?
Practice goal line like how crazy is this of A
Moment from matt ruhle to do this with a running
back that was just coming.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Off, of injury yeah especially a running back that, is
you know your, top guy there that's tough to put
him in a very physical environment like that fresh. Off
Of injury and i'm sure to the veteran players, on
that team as they, just told us it didn't make
a lot of sense because you don't want to bring
him back and put him in a position to, get,
injured again obviously and so along with all of the
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other things that people did Not Like, about matt ruhle
that's certainly something that makes players question. Your football acumen
are you fit? For this job are you fit TO
be an? Nfl head coach because it.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
SOUNDS absolutely asinine i Remember Talking with stefanya bell about
this INJURY. Analysts for espn you probably know her through her,
fantasy Football Contributions and stefanya bell would Always discuss the
Panthers usage of christian McCaffrey in games where he had
a ninety, percent SNAP rate which i always thought was
way too much, for that guy and how they would
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bring him back a little earlier from injury than. They
Probably SHOULD and stefanya i remember talking WITH her even
i did like a thirty minute podcast with her OR
whatever when i. Had her on this was during, twenty
twenty one, twenty twenty two so right after The Incident
that mike davis, is talking about and that's what she
Was hearing that christian McCaffrey just wouldn't ever.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
Get a break and.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
We saw it they, played McCaffrey constantly and what was,
really frustrating is AS much As I love ron rivera
and have the utmost respect for him and everything, THAT
he's accomplished i thought that he was a little misguided
with how much. They used McCaffrey and then when that,
RULE came, over i, thought all right that's something i'd like.
To see change except all they did was turn the
volume up even. More on McCaffrey seeing, the football field
they didn't want to, take him off and so he
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constantly had Injury And the queen City go. To, san fran,
yeah less injuries, still some injuries especially with what we,
saw last year but they just never used them right,
in my opinion or if they, used them right they used.
Them too much and you would hear people behind, the,
scenes say yeah. This is weird this is not what other.
Teams do it it Was More than. Leveon bell usage
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it Was More than todd gurley usage over There.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
With the rams McCaffrey would not leave the.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Field short yardage go get a bigger back in there
on fourth and one and see if.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
He, can convert nope. Gonna handle it they're gonna hand.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It to McCaffrey it, was, frustrating then yeah and it's
frustrating now hearing stories like that. When, it's confirmed yeah
we all knew, it was stupid and yet here they
were running a live goal line with McCaffrey coming, back.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
From dage. Right sounds idiotic what? Else?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
You?
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Got, all right well, first of all we do have
two new practice squad members that. Have Been, added kaylin
king the defensive Back, from the packers who was a
surprise cut to Many amongst, the packers Media And, then
ania smith, a wide receiver has also been added to.
The PRACTICE squad so i wouldn't read too much into
that in Terms Of the, hunter renfro angle but certainly.
(31:11):
Something Of note as mike kay says that, by his
math now seventeen spots have been spoken for on the
practice Squad.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
For, the panthers.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Okay, there you go more, people being released and we
continue to See if the panthers are going To Bring,
back hunter renfro more practice squad spots keep. Being used
up if You, bring back renfro it'd probably be on
the main, roster, ANYWAY though right i, would.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Think so because i'm wondering with them continuing to pick,
Up wide, receivers i'm like what does this mean another
guy or two might get cut because they're picking. These
GUYS up but i know they're putting together, their, practice squad.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right and Especially with the, renfro Stuff Too with mike
ky also reporting that he hears There's competition for renfro
when it Comes, TO the panthers i think it's the
guy that performed as well as he did, in training
camp with multiple players, calling him unguardable and, we saw
it especially before. The hamstring injury it just, routing dudes
up even if it's one, on one scenarios they always.
(32:06):
Favor The receiver anna renfroe had a good, camp before
INJURY and so i think he's gonna make an active
roster somewhere with what he's already accomplished. IN the league
i just hope It's. Here in carolina i'm pulling for
it to. Happen as well you want a quittor you? Got,
MORE sound no i got one more.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
For You guys aaron murray Talking on The mac, and
murray podcast new podcast that He's doing with eric McLain
and he i don't know if he was just kissing
up to, his co host but He says that clemson
should be number one in the country going.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Into this year i'm, Gonna be Honest i'm surprised clemson
is the number one of the country because that's my
number one team in the country for all the, Reasons
YOU said Because i think texas has a lot of
question marks at a lot.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Of big.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Positions offensive, line you know we think arch is, gonna
be good? BUT how good i got a Proving Guy, in,
Kate klubnick who, i'll be honest was not a Big
Fan of kate clubnick early on.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
In, his career sure.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
He DIDN'T love what i saw Last year versus, georgia
week one and then he just gained so much confidence
from that moment for the.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Rest of the.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Season played, great so like you have an experienced quarterback
that's put, up the stats you, got the receivers the
defense is going. To be legit YOU'RE In the acc
like for, SO many reasons, i, sit back like why
is Not. Everyone saying clemson plus you've a head coach
who's won. Multiple national championships you're going back to, the
whole thing like who can? Win a championship dab was
(33:22):
proven he. Can WIN championships So. I love clemson.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I'm, all for.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Clemson all right so do, you Believe That like, aaron
Murray Says the clemson tigers should be the number, one
overall team that you're not A team like Texas Or.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Say, PENN state, YEAH i mean i typically like the
defendant champion come back in. As number one but if you,
didn't do it if you want to look at the
team just based off the talent and, what, THEY'VE gotten
Yeah i think clemson is. The best team and that's
not just because they're. An ACC team, as i, said
this defense you look. At every LEVEL they are nfl guys.
That are there you look at. This offense too the
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only question mark that they have is at the, running
BACK position which i think if you were, to have
issues running back is probably the. Easiest to solve and
so when you want to look at talent, And perceived
weaknesses clemson has less than a lot of the other
quote unquote championship contenders.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Across the country, how?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Dare you sir Running Backs Matter west and i'm tired
of you disrespecting the. Running back position it is not
an easy. POSITION to solve i think people complaining about
preseason rankings and polls is one of the most overstated issues.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
IN college football i.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
CAN'T stand it i actually like the process that we
have where a bunch of college football minds come together
and imperfectly give you their best shot at who the
top twenty five teams are going to be coming. Into
this year Guess what happens if your number one ranked
team coming into. The year sucks they're not going to
be in the top. Twenty five anymore they're not going
to be in the. Top ten anymore they're not going
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to be In The college football playoff. If they lose
so you. Got it wrong we make the rankings because
we give it our best shot to see who the top,
twenty five team, and guess what a lot of times
they do a pretty. Damn good job isn't there only
one team and the preseason top ten that usually falls
out of the top twenty five. By season's end it's
a pretty. Decent hit rate as much as we like to,
(35:12):
argue about it these things. Figure out themselves. It's totally
fine what else do we? Want to do not. Have
preseason rankings for all these teams to come, out in
football what?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Are we, doing it's okay your first week matchups.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
Would mean one there would be certain games where you'd
look at it, and be like how good?
Speaker 10 (35:30):
Is?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
This game really everybody get hyped for THE Zero ranked
lsu tigers facing The Zero.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Ranked clemson, TIGERS ah man i want.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Some poping circumstances give, me top, one top, two top three,
Top five MATCHUPS that's. What i want, but oh no
everything's going to be affected once.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
We get to the.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
College football playoff like the team that lost four games isn't.
Going to that they're going to still be ranked number
one if they indeed?
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Lost.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
FOR it yep i think people complain about it constantly
and it's. Always been stupid we end on That For.
The live wire, coming up next It's The Walk off
sports radio ninety two TO.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Seven wfn z are the challenge for me? To walk,
off oh yeah that's a, walk off, challenge my friend.
Speaker 10 (36:25):
It's.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
A walk off it's.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
A walk off i want To Apologize to aaron murray
for my. Anger last segment that was not, directed. At you,
sir in fact you didn't say. Anything wrong whatsoever it
just got me on one of my COLLEGE footballboxes and.
I blacked out sam demand rights In on the. Fandel
Text line aaron murray didn't say. He was mad he
just said he Would have had. Clemson number one why are?
(36:49):
You so, angry.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
YOU'RE right sir i got angry because.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
OF the process a lot of people do complain, about
PRESEASON rankings and i went there instead of addressing, the
actual question which was do You Think that aaron murray
is Right in thinking clemson should have been? RANKED number
one i would have agreed with him actually coming. INTO
the season i just got mad because of the whole
process and. People criticizing, It So, anyways aaron murray you.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Didn't do anything you can always count on, The, text
line man bring it back.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Down to.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
EARTH they did, I, appreciate that sam You are demand it's.
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tell You. What's on tap kind of interesting here Wes
yep cam newton. Under television screen he just inked a
(37:36):
new Deal With. ESPN's first take they reached a new
multi year agreement and his role will Be Expanded, on
first take ESPN's signature. Morning debate show newton will bring
his quote unique perspective to the. Show's dynamic discussions he'll
Make his return thursday during A Live Show this Is
Tomorrow At norfolk state university as a Part Of THE first.
(37:57):
Take hbcu tour he joins a roster of Prominent Personalities,
on First TAKE. Including, Steven, A Smith, post Molly kiram
And sirius XM's Chris ad dog russo what do You
Think about cam newton having a more prominent role on the?
SHOW first tape i think IT'S.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Good and i think it's a reflection of how good
his content has been, if you do, indeed ENJOY it.
And I do and i was going, to, ask you
man did you ever see This coming from cam while?
He was here because we know that, he was charismatic
we know that he was always good, For A quote
but i did not see him having this type of media.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
CAREER post career i didn't think. HE would either i
did not expect. That to happen he never really had
that grade of a way with words up. At, the
lectern yeah still struggles with that just, a little bit
but he. So entertained it but it's, all about entertaining
and that's. What they're doing they're bringing in some of.
The Lightning rods cam newton is a lightning rod that
has something interesting, to say constantly and a lot of
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times he gets in. TROUBLE for it i just don't
know how, much, He Cares right cam newton will even
despair it his.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Teammates at time he wants.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
All the smoke he doesn't, duck smoke well and that's
what makes him so Entertaining to The gilly.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
THE kids, stuff i mean with some of his best
work that he's ever. Put out there? DID you know
i need to see the LAST one so i.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
Didn't see it Did you know ghiladelphia? Was an album.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
It's great stuff two and a half minutes of Him
just Slamming gilly the kid calling. HIM a, mascot i
mean really. Top tier stuff but that's the kind of
content that gets you on first take in a. More
prominent role and they are Trying To, replace shannon sharp
who's NO longer, with espn anymore and so they're bringing
in another former football, player that's. Outspoken That's Entertaining enter
(39:40):
cam newton with the hat.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
And, all that yeah everything that he brings, to THE table,
and i, think you know he's going to continue. TO
go up i know he's campaigned TO have an. Hbcu
game DAY but, Like I said cam newton's doing. A
great job i check in on his content pretty MUCH
daily when i see it, On my, timeline so yeah good,
job for?
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Him all right?
Speaker 2 (39:59):
What's, on Tap, also, the braves well they're. Playing right
now it's actually at the bottom of the end. Of
the fifth it looks like they're going to the top of,
the sixth Inning and the braves are up Big.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
On the marlins they're up. Nine to one they're kind of.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Hot right now they seem, might be done but they're.
Kind of Hot you had wentz on The. Mound for atlanta,
he's still pitching as. IT seems now i don't know
if he's going to trop back out there, for the
sixth but he's only got a sixty. FIVE pitch count
i would expect that he does. NICE out hope i
would hope not, doing so bad right now only, one
earned run, three hits allowed one walk Allowed to the
marlins with, only ONE run and i don't Know if
(40:32):
It's Gusto. Or gusto flounder i'm going to go to. The, baseball,
pronunciator no okay you don't know. This one either gusto
went out There, for the marlins allowed nine earned runs
in three and two. THIRDS innings pitched, i would say
not so great for my man Down. There in miami
how many more games are? Left after this they have
two hundred, and sixty one so still plenty of time
(40:53):
for a time to get on even more of, a
hot streak get back. To five hundred potentially they're sixty
and seventy two now it would be. A long climb
and finally some tennis for ALL Of you. Us open
fans that's going. On Right now francis tiafo will take
the court, at three, o'clock so really in just under,
Ten Minutes, time francis tiafo the seventeenth ranked player. In
(41:15):
the country he, IN the nation, i should say he'll
face Damn.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
A fellow american.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
At three o'clock He will face i'm looking up the first,
name right now all To.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
See is.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Damn i'm Scrolling i'm Scrolling martin dam martin dam in round.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Two.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
DAM damm interesting i guess. Some people curse he thinks
maybe they're calling his.
Speaker 1 (41:35):
Name. Military style damn, what, You want man.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I'm just, saying. YOUR name sir I really hope tiafo.
Gets it done do you? Care at all we don't care.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
About aagas he's. Not Out, THERE didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
No i do i've been attention, a, Little bit man
I'm Tapping on coco golf and some of the. LADIES
out there i do. LOOK at that i Keep up
with tiafo because of. You as well and then obviously some.
Of the headlines did you Get from the yokovich he's
going for his Twenty Fifth. CAREER grand slam i mean
just one? Fifth, career title? Yeah just.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
ONE this hint i think it just ended a. Little
bit ago so he's moving on to the next round.
After a victory so Nice. Job from novak djokovic was
just pushed smoke. FOR some reason i just decided to.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Love you know sometimes you got you might get.
Speaker 6 (42:24):
My little shoved that's coming from a former, offensive lineman
though so that's probably, a little.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Heavy you KNOW smoke and i. Were Wrestling guys so.
Smoke sold it he sold. IT really well i gave
him a light Tap and then smoke goes flying. Into
the wall he bounces off to. The back wall that's, called.
SELLING it folks i thought.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
He Was Doing his.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Wilfrid zaha. IMPRESSION i'm Sorry i thought smoke really just did.
ALMOST fall over i don't think. He's, SELLING anything Yeah
i think smoke really almost MY mastron that i might
need to, be out, there you know Playing. For, the
panthers well i'd go to the. Forty NINE ers but
i was, Going to say i'm as good as a
almost as good as a Seller as mister.
Speaker 1 (43:02):
Perfect did a good job.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Of Selling it miss smoker might just do a series
of social media videos and just, call them sales and
then we just walk and through simple stuff every day
and then.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
We sell it who gets to put who? Through, a
table well that wouldn't be, a, SALE because WELL i
guess i would have to SELL how.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
Hurt i Am but because i've never had it, HAPPEN
to me i would be.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Really THAT hurt so I don't think i. Could sell
that i'd.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Be laying there you'd probably be missing a partner, for
that day maybe two.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
To, Three days.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Okay maca went through a table and he actually did
ready to.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
The next day he missed.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
The table too he didn't. Completely, get it yeah but.
We're talking force being slammed through the table. Is completely
different you're gonna pick, Them up Hercules that's.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
What, i'm saying, okay all right thing's going to. Require
some help and, by the way a bagel guy trying, To, get,
Us no sir i've already fallen. For this joke, mike first,
name Last. Name ox long it's not an up and coming,
Tennis play right i'm not following.
Speaker 7 (44:07):
For.
Speaker 1 (44:07):
That ever again, that'll. Do it uh for This edition Of.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
NFL Daily with Gregg Rosenthal
Gregg Rosenthal and a rotating crew of elite NFL Media co-hosts, including Patrick Claybon, Colleen Wolfe, Steve Wyche, Nick Shook and Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic get you caught up daily on all the NFL news and analysis you need to be smarter and funnier than your friends.